Tuesday, 2020-09-15

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openstackgerritHemanth Nakkina proposed openstack/nova master: Update pci stat pools based on PCI device changes  https://review.opendev.org/74917502:07
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openstackgerritFederico Ressi proposed openstack/nova master: Log stack trace when fails launching a defined domain  https://review.opendev.org/75065207:39
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openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: virt: Remove 'reset_network' API  https://review.opendev.org/74931508:03
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: virt: Remove 'change_instance_metadata' API  https://review.opendev.org/74931608:03
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openstackgerritLee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova master: WIP zuul: Introduce nova-multinode-evacuate  https://review.opendev.org/74488308:08
openstackgerritLee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova master: WIP zuul: Introduce nova-multinode-evacuate  https://review.opendev.org/74488308:16
bauzaswhoops my manners08:34
bauzasgood morning Nova08:34
lyarwoodMorning08:34
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yingjisunI found thousands of "2020-09-14 19:56:17.152 1869 INFO nova.metadata.wsgi.server [-] 192.168.131.34,192.168.131.68 "GET /openstack/latest/vendor_data.json HTTP/1.1" status: 200 len: 128 time: 0.0072370"08:44
yingjisunis there a periodic task that query the metadata ?08:45
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: test_evacuate: Wait until subnode is down before starting tests  https://review.opendev.org/75106508:48
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bauzasyingjisun: well, I'd expect cloud-init to fetch this vendordata09:07
bauzasso, litterally every instance which is booting09:07
yingjisunthis is the strange point. I see thousands of such log with 15 minutes. I do not think there are so much instance booting09:08
bauzassean-k-mooney: stephenfin: I honestly think we shouldn't deprecate stuff post-FF09:08
bauzassean-k-mooney: stephenfin: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/745605/09:08
lyarwoodbauzas: For what reason?09:09
stephenfinIt seemed super low risk09:09
yingjisunI only see 68 "Starting instance ..." in the log.09:09
bauzaslyarwood: because we have something called "Feature Freeze"09:09
bauzaseven with low risk deprecations09:09
bauzasthat's maybe me who is a bit conservative09:10
stephenfinyingjisun: https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/admin/vendordata.html09:10
bauzasbut is it really a thing ?09:10
stephenfinyingjisun: The vendordata feature provides a way to pass vendor or deployment-specific information to instances. This can be accessed by users using the metadata service or with config drives.09:10
lyarwoodsorry I don't see how feature freeze is even related to deprecations09:10
bauzaslyarwood: you're possibly right09:10
bauzasI just raise a concern09:10
lyarwoodff is for new things, deprecations are just to highlight removal in a future release09:10
bauzasin theory, RCs are there for focusing on bugds09:10
bauzasbut I'm pedantic09:11
lyarwoodyeah true I just didn't map deprecations to adding risk09:11
lyarwoodremoving stuff maybe09:11
lyarwoodthe only reason I'm still going through stephenfin's xenapi removal stuff is because the bulk has already landed09:11
lyarwoodso we are only removing stuff that's dead anyway now09:11
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stephenfinyingjisun: I suspect you have either something like cloud-init on the guests indexing the metadata service09:12
stephenfins/either //09:12
bauzasstephenfin: that's my expectations09:14
stephenfinlyarwood, bauzas: Yeah, it would be good to discuss as a team whether we want to proceed with that remove-xenapi series and close it out this cycle, or wait until Wallaby09:14
bauzasthat's what I explained09:14
stephenfinbauzas: oh, so you did /o\09:14
bauzasit's cloud-init thingies09:14
stephenfinsorry, I missed that09:14
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bauzasso litterally a guest question09:14
stephenfinyuuup09:14
lyarwoodstephenfin: yeah I'd like to remove the already dead stuff before RC if we can09:14
lyarwoodor did I miss rc already being cut09:15
bauzasno09:15
bauzasnext week09:15
bauzasand https://review.opendev.org/#/c/751045/1 is -W because of this09:15
bauzasI'd certainly prefer if we would stop merging things that would touch nova features09:15
lyarwoodk, if we have a week I'd say push ahead removing dead code but would be good to bring up on Thursday if it's still going on09:15
lyarwoodbauzas: FWIW the bulk of the removal has already landed so listing it there is valid now09:16
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bauzaslyarwood: this is09:16
bauzasmy concern was more about any other deprecation or removal we were about to provide09:16
lyarwoodkk what's the deadline for the prelude? after rc?09:17
lyarwoodIOW can we just set a deadline of rc for deprecations and respin the prelude?09:17
bauzaslyarwood: no, prelude has to merge before we branch09:17
stephenfinit has to merge before the branch09:17
stephenfinyeah09:17
bauzasbut again, the whole point of RCs is to focus on bugfixes09:17
stephenfinotherwise it's not included in the 22.0.0 tag09:18
lyarwoodyeah understood09:18
lyarwoodbut we aren't at rc yet soooooo09:18
lyarwoodI'd think deprecations are fine until we land the prelude and branch?09:18
bauzasand us pushing things down the line after FF makes me a bit sad since we all communicate on the glorious ideal of whight knights only caring about bugs for the next 2 weeks09:18
bauzascall me an idealist09:19
lyarwoodisn't that post rc?09:19
stephenfinbauzas: personally, I can't imagine us adding anything big enough to warrant inclusion in the prelude so I think that could be fixed up to mention XenAPI/VMWareAPI changes and merged09:19
lyarwoodI know we do it between ff and rc as well09:19
lyarwoodbut rc to ga is critical bugfixes etc as well right?09:19
bauzaslyarwood: no, RCs are intended for bugfixes, including the period between M3 and RC109:20
stephenfinlyarwood: on an RC-related note, what have we decided on Focal changes for Victoria? Are we simply skipping those tests until the QEMU fix lands in 20.04?09:20
bauzasthe period between RC1 and GA being focused on *regressions*09:20
stephenfinyes, I realize I should know this already /o\09:21
lyarwoodstephenfin: I think the TC are pushing ahead with the focal change so yeah09:21
bauzasso in the world of OpenStack, in theory you only focus on bugs for only two weeks in a 6-month timeframe \o/09:21
lyarwoodstephenfin: loads of jobs don't skip them still09:21
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openstackgerritSylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova master: Victoria 22.0.0 prelude section  https://review.opendev.org/75104509:25
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gibibauzas, stephenfin, lyarwood: regarding deprecatios post FF, I'm OK to finish up the xenapi removal before RC1 but in general please focus on bug triage instead of proposing new deprecations09:26
bauzasgibi: I'm litterally on it :p09:26
bauzasgibi: no lock held on triage ?09:27
lyarwoodstephenfin / sean-k-mooney ; https://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/build/11627c525c7a48138fba5d3e4c50c4e9/log/controller/logs/screen-q-dhcp.txt?severity=4 - appreciate this isn't our area but would either of you be able to look at this, I'm trying to finally sort out f32 jobs by the q-dhcp agent isn't happy, any ideas?09:28
lyarwoodhttps://review.opendev.org/#/c/750292/ is the review09:28
lyarwoodno idea what's borked here tbh09:29
gibibauzas: I don't hold the bug lock09:31
gibigo ahead09:31
* bauzas nods09:31
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yingjisunstephenfin: for the feature of Vendordata, is it keep running over and over when the instance is powered on ?09:33
bauzasyingjisun: no, it's not working this way09:36
bauzasyingjisun: it's a metadata API that instances can reach internally09:36
bauzasexactly like the user metadata09:36
bauzasyingjisun: so hitting this API is solely the responsability of apps running on top of the instances09:37
yingjisunso you guess there might be some process inside the instance which keeps to invoke it ?09:37
bauzasyingjisun: that'd be my expectations09:37
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bauzasbut you can see what hits the API09:37
bauzasso you can track09:38
brinzhang0stephenfin, gibi: please review this patch, followed-up with cyborg evacuate patch https://review.opendev.org/#/c/749052/09:38
bauzasyingjisun: see this blogpost explaining how metadata API is reached https://www.suse.com/c/vms-get-access-metadata-neutron/09:39
yingjisunbauzas: thank you. I read it now.09:40
bauzasyingjisun: actually, https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/admin/metadata-service.html explains it better09:42
bauzasso you can easily get the instance IP address09:43
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sean-k-mooney lyarwood i would not be surrpised if the output of the tool neutron is calling has changed10:06
lyarwoodsean-k-mooney: I can't seem to reproduce it locally10:07
lyarwoodsean-k-mooney: so it might be yet another load thing10:07
lyarwoodkashyap: https://bugs.launchpad.net/qemu/+bug/1894804 any news on this btw?10:10
openstackLaunchpad bug 1894804 in QEMU "Second DEVICE_DELETED event missing during virtio-blk disk device detach" [Undecided,New]10:10
sean-k-mooneylyarwood: so its failing here https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/agent/linux/ip_lib.py#L955-L96710:12
bauzaslyarwood: this one seems legit for Nova https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/189283710:13
openstackLaunchpad bug 1892837 in tripleo "tempest.api.compute.servers.test_servers_negative fails in periodic-tripleo-ci-centos-8-standalone-full-tempest-api-master" [Critical,Triaged]10:13
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lyarwoodbauzas: yup less of a priority with the workaround in Tempest but still a valid Nova bug10:13
bauzasack, triaged.10:14
lyarwoodjust cleaning up my untriaged but fix released bugs btw, appears launchpad/gerrit hasn't been keeping up10:14
sean-k-mooneylyarwood: this might be realted to a change that merged recently. i think the if need to be split. it currently prints that message if the device does not exist or if it does not have a mac10:15
sean-k-mooneylyarwood: is it causing the job to fail10:16
sean-k-mooneythat would be a yes it is10:17
kashyaplyarwood: No news yet :-( - but I haven't forgotten; Was responding to something more pressing elsewhere10:17
lyarwoodsean-k-mooney: yeah AFAICT the instances aren't getting ipv4 dhcp leases and so ssh verification is failing10:17
lyarwoodkashyap: ack np just chasing up10:17
kashyaplyarwood: Shortly, I'm going to try this experiment:10:17
lyarwoodsean-k-mooney: just finished a tox -e full tempest run on f32 without failures FWIW10:18
sean-k-mooneylyarwood: yep from the cirros console output it has no ipv4 ip just the link local ipv6 one10:18
kashyaplyarwood: (1) Run this vCPU-consuming 'workload' in the guest: `sha256sum /dev/zero | sha256sum /dev/zero`; (2) Attach and detach a device (or a bunch) in a loop10:18
sean-k-mooneylyarwood: there have been issue with load and the dhcp agent in the past so you could be right that that might be the cause10:18
bauzasgibi: I'm tempted to close https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1894966 as invalid since it's a configuration problem, but we could be more preventive on the API side and serve a HTTP40x here10:20
openstackLaunchpad bug 1894966 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Create servergroup failed with unexpected error" [Undecided,New]10:20
bauzasgibi: I feel the schema needs to be improved10:20
bauzasyou agree ?10:20
gibilooking10:21
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gibibauzas: agree, we need to add a better validation to the API for that10:22
bauzasweirdo10:22
bauzasthe schema already has an enum10:22
bauzasgibi: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/openstack/compute/schemas/server_groups.py#L3710:23
openstackgerritLee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova master: Include removal of ephemeral backing files in the image cache manager  https://review.opendev.org/68942210:23
bauzasI'm not an API schema specialist, but would it prevent to have the 'policies' field to be an empty list ?10:23
bauzasgmann: ^ (once you're up)10:23
bauzasnevermind, we don't know the release for this bug, asking for it10:25
gibigood point about the release and the api microversion used10:27
bauzasbut, the fact is, from v2.1 we ask policies to be set10:29
bauzasand we only extend the enum with later microversions10:29
bauzasso, I feel the schema allows an empty list although the comments say it shouldn't10:30
bauzasI don't have an env started now, but the verification should be quick10:30
gibilet me try10:31
bauzasthanks10:31
openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova stable/ussuri: tests: Add reproducer for bug #1879878  https://review.opendev.org/75134910:33
openstackbug 1879878 in OpenStack Compute (nova) ussuri "VM become Error after confirming resize with Error info CPUUnpinningInvalid on source node " [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1879878 - Assigned to Stephen Finucane (stephenfinucane)10:33
openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova stable/ussuri: Add generic reproducer for bug #1879878  https://review.opendev.org/75135010:38
openstackbug 1879878 in OpenStack Compute (nova) ussuri "VM become Error after confirming resize with Error info CPUUnpinningInvalid on source node " [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1879878 - Assigned to Stephen Finucane (stephenfinucane)10:38
stephenfinelod++ Thanks for the reviews :)10:39
elodstephenfin: np :)10:40
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gibibauzas: with microversion 2.1 - 2.63 I can reproduce https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1894966 on master10:49
openstackLaunchpad bug 1894966 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Create servergroup failed with unexpected error" [Undecided,Incomplete]10:49
gibibauzas: 2.64 changed the API in a way that this problem cannot happen any more10:49
gibiso this is a low prio bug to fix the validation of an old microversion10:50
gibiat least for me10:50
kashyapgibi: Hey, a random non-Nova thing :-) -- on online conferencing, I've heard really good things on this FOSS tool: 'BigBlueButton' - from the recently concluded Linux Plumbers (I didn't attend it)10:56
kashyapgibi: But here's some notes from the co-organizer: https://lwn.net/Articles/817146/10:56
kashyap[quote]10:56
kashyap To summarize, while both Jitsi and BigBlueButton are capable video-conferencing systems, BigBlueButton appears to be a more solid and feature-complete offering. In particular, the administration features and shared whiteboard capability stand out. The free-software community often struggles to create top-quality graphical applications; here we have (at least) two of them. It would appear that10:56
kashyapthere is no real need to be using proprietary solutions in this area.10:56
kashyap[/quote]10:56
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gibikashyap: hi!10:57
gibikashyap: never heard of BigBlueButton. We tried Jitsi in the last PTG and it was good except for PRC users10:58
kashyap(Although, the above is suitable for smaller, developer events, rather than big, "red carpet public conferences")10:58
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kashyapgibi: I see; yeah, I haven't heard of BigBlueButton either, but I just heard several good reviews about from a few Linux developers :D10:59
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gibikashyap: opendev provides a jitsi service so if you are interested in bbb then the next step would be get a bbb service up somewhere (maybe in infra) and try it out11:00
bauzasgibi: ack thanks11:01
kashyapgibi: Ah, I didn't know that OpenDev++ provides Jitsi.  Cool11:01
gibikashyap: https://meetpad.opendev.org/11:01
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* bauzas disappears for 3 hours due to the Le Tour visiting my home11:02
gibibauzas: enjoy11:02
bauzasgibi: which cyclist wanna me to support ?11:03
bauzas;)11:03
bauzasanyway, me goes off11:03
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gibibauzas: I have no idea. I did not follow cycling sport11:04
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sean-k-mooneyif ye want to try BigBlueBotton i can proably deploy a copy on my home cloud for ye to play around with or give ye access to it so ye can11:23
sean-k-mooneyhttps://docs.bigbluebutton.org/2.2/install.html11:23
sean-k-mooneyit does not seeam that invovled11:23
sean-k-mooneythey also have a test sight11:23
sean-k-mooneyhttps://test.bigbluebutton.org/11:23
sean-k-mooney*site11:23
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kashyapsean-k-mooney: Cool11:37
openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Use absolute path during qemu img rebase  https://review.opendev.org/73924611:38
sean-k-mooneyi think that prc contibutors will have the same issue with jisi or bbb11:39
sean-k-mooneyits a firewall issue e.g. the servers wehre its hosted are blocked by the china goverment firewall11:39
sean-k-mooneyso if infra ended up hosting bbb as well i doubt it would help11:40
gibisean-k-mooney: I agree ^^ we switched to zoom as it seems to be allowed in PRC11:42
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gibiit seems that the gate is broken due to mirror issue:  'No matching distribution found for python-designateclient===4.1.0'12:04
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openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Ignore HW_CPU_HYPERTHREADING trait in named groups  https://review.opendev.org/73594712:20
sean-k-mooneygibi: interesting12:22
sean-k-mooneyshould we ignore or raise an error12:23
sean-k-mooneyi think the flavor validation code should raise an error no?12:23
gibiI can change that to an error12:23
gibiI choose to ignore as alex_xu said that we will never use that trait in a named group12:24
sean-k-mooneyim kind of ok ignoring but when creating or updating a flavor i think the validation code should make it an error12:24
sean-k-mooneyso ignore where your currently ignoring12:24
gibiand it made the code a lot simpler12:24
sean-k-mooneywell we might12:24
sean-k-mooneybut we dont right now12:24
sean-k-mooneyso the reason that HW_CPU_HYPERTHREADING was originally not ment ot be set by the virt driver12:25
sean-k-mooneywas if we have numa in placment you might want to treat each numa node differently12:25
sean-k-mooneybut when stephenfin implemented the pcpus in placment feature we chose to allow the virt driver to report it12:26
sean-k-mooneywhihc broke tha tuse case12:26
sean-k-mooneyso right now we wont use it in a named group12:26
sean-k-mooneythe intent was to allow the isolate policy to work by only whitelisting half the treads on the scond numa node12:27
sean-k-mooneyinstead of having to partion you cloud into servers with hypertreading enabled and servers with it disabled12:27
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sean-k-mooneyas i said we decided to drop that usecase12:28
gibiOK. I will try to add a case to the extra_spec validation12:29
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gibito reject this trait in a named group12:30
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openstackgerritLee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: Don't age swap files in the image cache  https://review.opendev.org/64109313:03
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openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Reject HW_CPU_HYPERTHREADING trait in named groups  https://review.opendev.org/73594713:30
gibisean-k-mooney: added an extra_spec validator ^^13:30
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lyarwooddoes anyone know how/if we are tracking the pypy mirror outage(s)?13:37
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sean-k-mooneygibi: cool13:38
sean-k-mooneygibi: i was just wondering should we extend this to all HW_CPU traits?13:39
sean-k-mooneythe traits in the image are always merged into the unnamed group right13:39
sean-k-mooneybut for a flavor does it ever make sense to allow any HW_CPU_* trait in the named groups?13:40
sean-k-mooneystephenfin: ^13:40
stephenfinsean-k-mooney: Just left a comment suggesting there might be more traits of this nature to worry about13:40
gibisean-k-mooney: I did not think about that13:41
stephenfinPersonally, I'd have tackled this separately13:41
stephenfinPS2 was good enough, IMO13:41
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sean-k-mooneyi guess we could condier extendign this in a followup13:50
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sean-k-mooneyby the way shoudl that bug be marked invalid. i mean it was not ment to work in named groups so its invalid but we are not blocking it so that is a bug13:52
sean-k-mooneyso i guess its valid but the title is a little strange13:52
sean-k-mooneyoh i see it worked with numbered before13:53
sean-k-mooneyya its vaild then.13:53
openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova stable/train: Add note and daxio version to the vPMEM document  https://review.opendev.org/75022213:54
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* bauzas is back14:15
* gibi needs to leave early today (right now)14:20
nightmare_unrealis tempest and osc-functional-devstack related to user or issue with zuul / infra ?14:22
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bauzasgibi: ack, good evening \o14:32
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openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: functional: Enable real policy fixture by default  https://review.opendev.org/74590614:41
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: functional: Add and use 'GlanceFixture'  https://review.opendev.org/74590714:41
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: tests: Remove '_FakeImageService'  https://review.opendev.org/74590814:41
stephenfinbauzas, lyarwood: Could I ask one of you to take a look at those? ^ Ignore the line count - they're not complex :)14:42
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sean-k-mooneystephenfin: will the glance figure remove the need to use the fake image service stuff14:48
stephenfinyup14:48
sean-k-mooneycool there are like 3 differnt ways to stub glance currently14:49
sean-k-mooneyhaving one fixture for it would be nice14:49
stephenfinindeed; that's pretty much the entire point of that fixture :)14:49
sean-k-mooneyya in the rare case i have to care about the image i always have to first check which why is its stubbed which causes a context switch from the actual problem i was trying to solve14:50
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bauzasstephenfin: ack, /me clicks14:58
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stephenfinbauzas: ta15:04
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bauzasstephenfin: that's an easy one to review but I need to verify you haven't forgotten any15:04
stephenfinWise. fwiw, I simply used "ag -Q 'image.fake'" and "ag 'image import fake'" to find the imports15:05
stephenfin(ag = the silver searcher, btw. Great tool)15:06
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openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: Handle libvirt reporting incorrect 4k page quantities  https://review.opendev.org/63103815:21
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: Make overcommit check for pinned instance pagesize aware  https://review.opendev.org/63105315:21
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openstackgerritLee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova master: DNM libvirt: Support extending locally attached rbd volumes  https://review.opendev.org/75206915:22
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gmannbrinzhang_: i will check that today15:23
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gmanngibi: bauzas brinzhang_ do we need to fix this in older microversion or ask users to use new microversion 2.64 or higher which already has fix - https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/189496615:39
openstackLaunchpad bug 1894966 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Create servergroup failed with unexpected error" [Low,Confirmed]15:39
gmannif we decide to fix in older microversion then we can only fix the error code from 500->400. I feel we should ask to use new microversion.15:40
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openstackgerritFederico Ressi proposed openstack/nova master: Requires default python3-devel package on CentOS  https://review.opendev.org/75207315:42
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-openstackstatus- NOTICE: Our PyPI caching proxies are serving stale package indexes for some packages. We think because PyPI's CDN is serving stale package indexes. We are sorting out how we can either fix or workaround that. In the meantime updating requirements is likely the wrong option.16:10
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gansoHi Nova folks! If anyone could please take one last look at https://review.opendev.org/#/c/748533/ it already has +2 and +1 (thanks stephenfin and sean-k-mooney!)16:29
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sean-k-mooneyoh yes :) gibi i think is done for the day. bauzas maybe you can take a look its libvirt/networking related but its relivitly simple to review16:34
openstackgerritFederico Ressi proposed openstack/nova master: Log stack trace when fails launching a defined domain  https://review.opendev.org/75065216:34
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openstackgerritLee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova master: compute: Skip cinder_encryption_key_id check when booting from volume  https://review.opendev.org/75209018:31
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