Tuesday, 2018-05-15

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openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova master: Make scheduler client allow multiple member_of query parameters  https://review.openstack.org/56831300:02
openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova master: Remove '_apply_instance_name_template'  https://review.openstack.org/56725700:03
openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova master: XenAPI: Pass expected return codes to resize2fs  https://review.openstack.org/56831800:03
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Remove mox in test_xenapi.py (3)  https://review.openstack.org/56464500:36
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openstackgerritTetsuro Nakamura proposed openstack/nova master: Return nested providers in get_by_request  https://review.openstack.org/56711301:05
openstackgerritTetsuro Nakamura proposed openstack/nova master: Add traits check in nested provider candidates  https://review.openstack.org/56715001:05
openstackgerritTetsuro Nakamura proposed openstack/nova master: Support nested alloc cands with sharing providers  https://review.openstack.org/56750801:05
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova master: add lower-constraints job  https://review.openstack.org/55596101:12
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openstackgerritTetsuro Nakamura proposed openstack/nova master: Return all resources in provider_summaries  https://review.openstack.org/55804501:54
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Remove mox in nova/tests/unit/virt/xenapi/stubs.py  https://review.openstack.org/56841202:20
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openstackgerritTetsuro Nakamura proposed openstack/nova master: Return all nested providers in tree  https://review.openstack.org/55948002:38
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova master: Use ThreadPoolExecutor for max_concurrent_live_migrations  https://review.openstack.org/56350503:35
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openstackgerritTetsuro Nakamura proposed openstack/nova master: Return all resources in provider_summaries  https://review.openstack.org/55804504:37
openstackgerritTetsuro Nakamura proposed openstack/nova master: Return all nested providers in tree  https://review.openstack.org/55948004:37
openstackgerritTetsuro Nakamura proposed openstack/nova master: Support nested allocation candidates in placement  https://review.openstack.org/56548704:37
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openstackgerritNaichuan Sun proposed openstack/nova master: XenAPI: update the document related to vdi streaming  https://review.openstack.org/56844405:16
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova master: Added ability to configure default architecture for ImagePropertiesFilter  https://review.openstack.org/56642505:26
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova stable/queens: Update os_compute_api:os-flavor-extra-specs:index docs for 2.47  https://review.openstack.org/56325305:45
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openstackgerritTetsuro Nakamura proposed openstack/nova master: Add tests for alloc_cands with member_of  https://review.openstack.org/56139905:56
openstackgerritTetsuro Nakamura proposed openstack/nova master: Fix member_of with sharing providers  https://review.openstack.org/56140005:56
openstackgerritTetsuro Nakamura proposed openstack/nova master: Expand member_of functional test cases  https://review.openstack.org/56601105:56
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openstackgerritjichenjc proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Add additional information for z/VM spec.  https://review.openstack.org/56215406:24
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Remove mox in test_compute_api.py (4)  https://review.openstack.org/56846206:42
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openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: place emulator threads on CONF.cpu_shared_set  https://review.openstack.org/51089707:04
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openstackgerritMartin Midolesov proposed openstack/nova master: vmware:add support for the hw_video_ram image property  https://review.openstack.org/56419307:42
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openstackgerritYikun Jiang (Kero) proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Complex (Anti)-Affinity Policies  https://review.openstack.org/54692508:16
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova master: Use ThreadPoolExecutor for max_concurrent_live_migrations  https://review.openstack.org/56350508:23
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openstackgerritjichenjc proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Remove support for /os-fixed-ips REST API  https://review.openstack.org/56851608:25
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openstackgerritNaichuan Sun proposed openstack/nova master: xenapi(N-R-P):Get vgpu info from `allocations`  https://review.openstack.org/52171708:45
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: Simplify instance name generation  https://review.openstack.org/51657308:48
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openstackgerritNaichuan Sun proposed openstack/nova master: xenapi(N-R-P): Add API to support compute node resource provider update and create  https://review.openstack.org/52104108:54
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openstackgerritNaichuan Sun proposed openstack/nova master: xenapi(N-R-P): support compute node resource provider update  https://review.openstack.org/52104108:59
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openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: Remove unnecessary 'to_primitive' call  https://review.openstack.org/56853209:03
openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova master: libvirt: Report the virtual size of RAW disks  https://review.openstack.org/56789909:08
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openstackgerritTetsuro Nakamura proposed openstack/nova master: Support nested alloc cands with sharing providers  https://review.openstack.org/56750809:15
openstackgerritTetsuro Nakamura proposed openstack/nova master: Return all resources in provider_summaries  https://review.openstack.org/55804509:15
openstackgerritTetsuro Nakamura proposed openstack/nova master: Return all nested providers in tree  https://review.openstack.org/55948009:15
openstackgerritTetsuro Nakamura proposed openstack/nova master: Add microversion for nested allocation candidate  https://review.openstack.org/56548709:15
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stephenfinbauzas: You back from your holidays yet? If so, fancy sinking your teeth into this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/541290/09:17
openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova master: WIP abort live migration in queue.  https://review.openstack.org/56854209:19
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bauzasstephenfin: I do, but on slides mode09:32
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openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: Use nova.db.api directly  https://review.openstack.org/54326210:13
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jmccarthylyarwood: Hiya, you about ? Still seeing a weird issue with trying to attach encrypted volume, I think it may be to do with my qemu-kvm or libvirt packages .. https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/8GgwprosZuqgV2HRqUwJ8A - similar to this bug here ? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=144729710:30
openstackbugzilla.redhat.com bug 1447297 in libvirt "Unable to use LUKS passphrase that is exactly 16 bytes long" [Unspecified,Closed: errata] - Assigned to pkrempa10:30
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jmccarthylyarwood: Typo .. meant this bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=141857510:31
openstackbugzilla.redhat.com bug 1418575 in qemu-kvm-rhev "Forward port of downstream-only QMP commands is incorrect" [Unspecified,Closed: errata] - Assigned to armbru10:31
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lyarwoodjmccarthy: hey10:45
lyarwoodjmccarthy: yeah that could be it, does it match the QEMU version you have installed?10:46
lyarwoodjmccarthy: I assume you have a newer version of libvirt that's trying to use that command but your version of QEMU doesn't have that command available?10:47
jmccarthylyarwood: Let me have another look here, the qemu-kvm rpm that's installed ?10:47
lyarwoodjmccarthy: yeah correct10:47
lyarwoodjmccarthy: or qemu-kvm-rhev if you're using RHEL10:48
jmccarthylyarwood: Hmm ok, this isn't the newest .. qemu-kvm-2.9.0-8.el7.x86_64 but virsh --version reports 3.9.0 ?10:49
lyarwoodjmccarthy: virsh is reporting the libvirt version10:49
lyarwoodjmccarthy: is this a RHEL env?10:49
lyarwoodjmccarthy: you really should be using qemu-kvm-rhev if possible10:49
jmccarthylyarwood: No :/ oracle linux10:49
lyarwoodjmccarthy: kk, they should have a clone of qemu-kvm-rhev10:50
lyarwoodkashyap: ^ re https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1418575 - I assume that wasn't mirrored into qemu-kvm downtream right?10:50
openstackbugzilla.redhat.com bug 1418575 in qemu-kvm-rhev "Forward port of downstream-only QMP commands is incorrect" [Unspecified,Closed: errata] - Assigned to armbru10:50
jmccarthylyarwood: Yea I mean the oraclelinux images that kolla builds doesn't have this issue - it must be to do with this rpm then10:51
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jmccarthylyarwood: I'll have another look at my env and see if I can try this with different/newer rpm10:52
jmccarthylyarwood: Thanks !10:53
lyarwoodjmccarthy: np :)10:54
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kashyaplyarwood: Hi there11:04
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kashyapActually, I'm shuffling b/n kitchen and laptop; I'll finish the lunch business and get to it11:05
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openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: placement: Fix HTTP error generation  https://review.openstack.org/56856711:51
kashyaplyarwood: That's true; that change is only for 'qemu-kvm-rhev'11:51
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openstackgerritTetsuro Nakamura proposed openstack/nova master: Support nested alloc cands with sharing providers  https://review.openstack.org/56750812:27
openstackgerritTetsuro Nakamura proposed openstack/nova master: Return all resources in provider_summaries  https://review.openstack.org/55804512:27
openstackgerritTetsuro Nakamura proposed openstack/nova master: Return all nested providers in tree  https://review.openstack.org/55948012:27
openstackgerritTetsuro Nakamura proposed openstack/nova master: Add microversion for nested allocation candidate  https://review.openstack.org/56548712:27
openstackgerritMohammed Naser proposed openstack/nova stable/queens: Added ability to configure default architecture for ImagePropertiesFilter  https://review.openstack.org/56857512:28
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova stable/ocata: libvirt: Report the virtual size of RAW disks  https://review.openstack.org/56838212:31
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mriedemKevin_Zheng: can you check https://review.openstack.org/#/c/566143/ again?12:34
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Kevin_Zhengmriedem: sure, thanks for the review12:36
openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/osc-placement master: CLI for traits (v1.6)  https://review.openstack.org/51464312:36
openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/osc-placement master: Resource class set (v1.7)  https://review.openstack.org/51464412:36
openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/osc-placement master: Usages per project and user (v1.8, v1.9)  https://review.openstack.org/51464612:36
openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/osc-placement master: CLI allocation candidates (v1.10)  https://review.openstack.org/51464712:36
openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/osc-placement master: New dict format of allocations (v1.11, v1.12)  https://review.openstack.org/54281912:36
openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/osc-placement master: Transactionally update allocations (v1.13)  https://review.openstack.org/54667412:36
openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/osc-placement master: Add nested resource providers (v1.14)  https://review.openstack.org/54667512:36
openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/osc-placement master: Limit allocation candidates (v1.15, v1.16)  https://review.openstack.org/54804312:36
openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/osc-placement master: Allocation candidates parameter: required (v1.17)  https://review.openstack.org/54832612:36
Kevin_Zhengmriedem: I’m going home now so I will check it 1 hour latter :)12:40
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openstackgerritEric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: Add INVENTORY_INUSE to DELETE /rp/{u}/inventories  https://review.openstack.org/56857812:55
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Update auth_url in install docs  https://review.openstack.org/56800213:06
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gibimelwitt, efried: do we have plans about the nova onboarding session on the summit?13:19
efriedgibi: "Be in the room" was the extent of my plan thus far.13:22
gibiefried: cool, I can do that :)13:22
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openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: place emulator threads on CONF.compute.cpu_shared_set  https://review.openstack.org/51089713:35
openstackgerritVladyslav Drok proposed openstack/nova master: Placement: allow to set reserved value equal to total for inventory  https://review.openstack.org/56483813:35
openstackgerritVladyslav Drok proposed openstack/nova master: ironic: Report resources as reserved when needed  https://review.openstack.org/51792113:35
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openstackgerritVladyslav Drok proposed openstack/nova master: Placement: allow to set reserved value equal to total for inventory  https://review.openstack.org/56483813:38
openstackgerritVladyslav Drok proposed openstack/nova master: Ironic: report 0 for vcpus/memory_mb/disk_gb resources  https://review.openstack.org/56584113:38
openstackgerritVladyslav Drok proposed openstack/nova master: ironic: Report resources as reserved when needed  https://review.openstack.org/51792113:38
openstackgerritVladyslav Drok proposed openstack/nova master: Ironic: report 0 for vcpus/memory_mb/disk_gb resources  https://review.openstack.org/56584113:39
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/osc-placement master: CLI for traits (v1.6)  https://review.openstack.org/51464313:43
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Move image conversion to privsep.  https://review.openstack.org/55443714:09
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: We don't need utils.trycmd any more.  https://review.openstack.org/55443914:09
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: We no longer need rootwrap.  https://review.openstack.org/55443814:09
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bauzasFWIW, /me works on a one-slide about explaining Placement API :)14:11
bauzasefried: jaypipes: cdent: edleafe: ^ ;)14:11
efriedbauzas: FYI, edleafe and I have... uhh... more than one slide explaining the Placement API.14:12
edleafebauzas: efried does this in 30 slides :)14:12
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efriedbauzas: For what audience?14:13
bauzasedleafe: efried: sure but it's for https://www.openstack.org/summit/vancouver-2018/summit-schedule/events/20802/call-it-real-virtual-gpus-in-nova14:13
bauzasI started my slides with https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1HNXbT1awinXVWVMfB1LqGAALhzYS9HNoRln24zcjNxc/edit#slide=id.g3a91510c35_0_014:13
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bauzasedleafe: efried: I think I'll just tell about inventories and allocations ;)14:17
bauzasand traits14:18
bauzasoh, and FWIW, maybe we should update https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/user/architecture.html14:19
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openstackgerritArtom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova master: Refactor _build_device_metadata  https://review.openstack.org/53380414:31
openstackgerritArtom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova master: Consider hostdev devices when building metadata  https://review.openstack.org/53380514:31
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jaypipesdansmith: what benefit would having a trait called "nvidia" give us?14:33
jaypipesgive the user that is..14:33
jaypipesor M60, even.14:33
jaypipesdansmith: for the record we already have lots of GPU-specific traits around CUDA, OpenCL, DirectX API versions, etc.14:34
jaypipesdansmith: I'm really trying hard not to have plain vendor tags leaked out to the user.14:34
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dansmithjaypipes: my image doesn't have AMD drivers in it and can't work with it, so.. I kinda need to be sure to land on a host with an nvidia card14:38
dansmithI think CUDA implies nvidia, so if we have tags for that, then that's cool,14:38
dansmithbut I don't think even just API versions gives me enough to select what I want14:39
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jaypipesdansmith: what *would* be enough to select what you want? (other than "nvidia" and "m60", since those are vendor-specific and will essentially cause our API to have vendor-lockin)14:40
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dansmithjaypipes: what would be enough, other than the things I need? I dunno :)14:41
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jaypipesdansmith: I thought you were against vendor lockin? :)14:42
dansmithhow is having CUDA any different than nvidia?14:42
dansmithjaypipes: by asking the question like that, you're unfairly trying to put me in a place to agree with your side of the argument14:42
jaypipesdansmith: well, yeah... that's how I roll brother :)14:43
dansmithhow is it different than saying "my image requires vmware to run"14:43
dansmithum, alright.14:43
jaypipesdansmith: I'm joking with you.14:43
jaypipesdansmith: so, I may be totally wrong (feel free to correct), but the way I understand it is this:14:44
jaypipesCUDA is basically a programming *model* but to use it, you either use OpenCL or OpenACC frameworks.14:44
dansmithI don't think that's how it works at all14:45
jaypipesand considering we already have traits for opencl and other frameworks (which describe what the user needs), I am questioning a need for more traits14:45
dansmithI could totally be wrong, of course14:45
dansmitheveryone I have heard talk about this makes it sound like they tent to target a pretty specific GPU while designing their application14:47
dansmithnot that they're not speaking a generic language to it such that it could run on a different model of the same family, but that it defeats the point of hyper-optimization14:47
Kevin_Zhengmriedem: Hi, as for your comment in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/568542 I added the loop and other logic because I was considering race conditions, like maybe when I check the existence of future obj in queue, it was there, but when I actually cancel it, it went to preparing or running so I might do also some cleanup14:48
jaypipesdansmith: any chance you can put me in touch with an example user of these things?14:48
dansmithit would be like saying "I want a PCI nic", and having only intel drivers in your image, but you get put on a box and handed a mellanox card14:48
dansmithjaypipes: lol14:48
openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova master: __str__ methods for RequestGroup, ResourceRequest  https://review.openstack.org/56835314:49
jaypipesdansmith: I wasn't being facetious...14:49
jaypipesdansmith: sorry14:49
* dansmith searches for a more appropriate adjective for this conversation14:50
Kevin_Zhengmriedem: the loop is because I thought if it is in “preparing” it will end up either “error” or “running” so we can cancel it when it turn to “running” or just ignore it if it turned to “error”14:50
Kevin_Zhengmriedem: that was just my consideration, not sure it is correct14:50
dansmithjaypipes: so you already have a cuda trait, which means you effectively already have an nvidia one,14:51
dansmithjaypipes: what happens when I've got my image that supports m60 gpus, and then next month you add a bunch of nodes with m61s,14:51
dansmithI start booting instances that get there and their drivers are too old to recognize and use an m61?14:51
jaypipesdansmith: the traits indicate the version of the CUDA, OpenGL, OpenCL drivers that are supported by the vGPU type.14:52
jaypipesdansmith: https://github.com/openstack/os-traits/blob/master/os_traits/hw/gpu/api.py14:53
dansmithjaypipes: okay, so for cuda that might help14:53
jaypipesdansmith: so the user would just say "hey, I wrote my app using this version of CUDA"14:53
jaypipesdansmith: and put that trait in their image metaedata14:53
dansmithjaypipes: what about AMD and intel? there isn't a uniform opencl api bump to indicate each one right?14:53
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dansmithand I don't have amd drivers in my instance, but you put me there14:53
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jaypipesdansmith: we wouldn't put you on an AMD instance if you asked for CUDA 7.1...14:54
dansmithno,14:54
dansmithI'm saying let's say I'm a non-cuda instance.. I'm using OpenCL, and I asked for v2.214:54
dansmithI have intel drivers in my instance, but you put me on an AMD-only node that supports v2.214:54
jaypipesdansmith: not sure? :)14:56
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jaypipesdansmith: wikipedia states this... "Programs in the OpenCL language are intended to be compiled at run-time, so that OpenCL-using applications are portable between implementations for various host devices."14:58
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dansmithum, so?14:58
dansmiththe drivers and libraries are in my instance (or not)14:58
dansmithonce again, archlinux is the best wiki on the internet: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GPGPU14:58
dansmithsee the package names you have to get installed for each type of device?14:59
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jaypipesdansmith: yeah.15:00
dansmiththose being distro packages either bundle or download proprietary binaries for that layer15:00
jaypipesdansmith: back to hardware-defined software it seems. :(15:00
dansmithpretty sure the nvidia ones at least are very closely-guarded and require an account with endowments in order to download them15:00
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dansmithalso pretty sure most of these have pretty specific kernel versions that are required,15:02
dansmithas they also utilize the kernel-side driver, fglrx, nvidia, etc15:02
jaypipesdansmith: my fear is that we will get locked in to vendor-specific identifiers and behaviour in the user-facing API and when these vendors inevitably change directions, we'll be forced to change our APIs.15:02
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dansmithjaypipes: I don't think we are though, because the traits are just enums.. if nothing is exposing m60 right now, then.. nothing boots that requires it15:03
dansmithand going back to your point of trying to shame me,15:04
jaypipesdansmith: what does m60 give you though? I can understand a potential need for traits that represent all these vendor drivers for OpenCL and CUDA, but the model name doesn't give any more information than the resolution, display heads and API library versions, right?15:05
dansmithI don't want vendor lock-in of course, as you know, but I don't think enumerating the things that could be out there is doing that15:05
dansmithjaypipes: of course it does15:05
dansmithjaypipes: max resolution and display heads means nothing to me, I need cores/shaders/memory for GPGPU15:05
dansmithjaypipes: and of course, lineage so I know if my drivers are appropriate15:05
jaypipesbut the drivers are for a version of CUDA or OpenCL, though, right?15:06
dansmithjaypipes: if I'm an amd instance and I have a specific version of the drivers, I may be able to support a foobar99 but not a foobar12815:06
jaypipesyou don't have drivers for M60, drivers for M61, etc, right?15:06
dansmithI'm not sure what the appropriate level of abstraction is exactly,15:06
dansmithmaybe m60 is too fine-grained, but I think probably not because there are cards with 1, 2, 4 m60 chips, etc15:06
openstackgerritVladyslav Drok proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Allow having placement inventories with reserved value equal to total  https://review.openstack.org/56861315:08
openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova master: trivial: Explain how the marker works for instance-cell mapping  https://review.openstack.org/56759715:12
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jaypipesdansmith: ok, so I'll just point out one last word on this VGPU stuff... AWS' elastic GPUs don't mention any vendor at all (https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/elastic-gpus/). They only mention "supports OpenGL 4.3" and up to 8G of GPU memory. Now, I know it's just one data point, but it does seem they are trying not to get into the game of leaking out vendor information ...15:26
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dansmithjaypipes: check out this in their FAQ: Q. Do I need a driver for Elastic GPUs?15:28
dansmithjaypipes: looks like they have network-virtualized the GPUs so they can be attached anywhere, and they consume network bandwidth15:29
dansmiththey use OpenGL as their interface,15:29
dansmithwhich means you're pretty far removed from the thing as a compute device, AFAIK15:29
dansmiththey also seem to focus on "graphics acceleration", which would be in line with being OpenGL-only15:29
openstackgerritVladyslav Drok proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Allow having placement inventories with reserved value equal to total  https://review.openstack.org/56861315:29
dansmithjaypipes: ah, they say use P3 for GPGPU15:30
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dansmithjaypipes: https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/instance-types/p3/15:30
dansmithjaypipes: tesla v100 only15:30
dansmithjaypipes: so, yeah, easy :)15:30
dansmithand note they're not saying "you'll get some nvidia somethingorother" they say .. "it'll be a damned v100, alwas"15:32
jaypipesdansmith: I see them say tesla v100. those are passthrough direct GPU devices, though, not vGPU "types", right?15:32
jaypipes"Alternatively, you can also use the NVIDIA AMI with GPU driver and CUDA toolkit pre-installed." ... interesting.15:32
dansmithjaypipes: yeah I dunno if it's a vGPU or them just giving you a whole card15:32
jaypipesdansmith: it's the whole card. or 8 of them :)15:33
dansmithdoesn't have anything to do with our discussion though right? they're very specific about what you get, and thus what driver you need15:33
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jaypipesdansmith: yes and no? :) the "elastic GPUs" are very much non-vendor-specific. The P3 instances are clearly very much "here is this specific machine configuration with 8 NVIDIA GPUs", etc.15:35
jaypipesdansmith: but I see your point.15:35
jaypipesdansmith: we need to support both cloudy and non-cloudy things.15:35
dansmithjaypipes: but they're not for GPGPU, they're for graphics acceleration15:35
jaypipesdansmith: I've just been trying my best to keep the vendor-specific stuff out of the way.15:36
dansmithand they virtualize the OpenGL interface, so you're far removed15:36
jaypipesdansmith: yes, I understand.15:36
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openstackgerritVladyslav Drok proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Allow having placement inventories with reserved value equal to total  https://review.openstack.org/56861315:38
dansmithand, they achieve the vendor neutrality of the elastic gpu thing by creating their own vendor so to speak, and provide signed drivers for supported operating systems15:38
dansmithif they didn't have that,15:38
dansmiththey'd have to have specific details about which drivers you needed to have to support all their stuff, or provide flavors to let you choose which ones,15:38
dansmithbecause drivers are required one way or the other15:38
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dansmithso unless you're going to write a driver and backend system to do that, I don't see how even the elastic gpu case alters the discussion15:39
jaypipesdansmith: sounds like we need traits that represent the vendor software drivers, then...15:40
dansmithor we expect that people have to do that on their own by using custom traits15:41
dansmithwhich is what I said in that review, but then that generates a much less interoperable situation for everyone15:42
jaypipesagreed.'15:42
jaypipesdansmith: ok, thx for talking through this with me. was very useful.15:42
jaypipesand for the record, I did not try to shame you. sorry if anything came across that way.15:43
dansmithwe also can punt the problem for a while, saying people need to use custom traits for now and see how it goes15:43
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jaypipesack15:45
openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova master: placement: Fix HTTP error generation  https://review.openstack.org/56856715:46
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openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: [placement] default to accept of application/json when */*  https://review.openstack.org/56863016:01
mriedemstephenfin: have to talked with claudiu about whether or not the hyperv driver can support https://review.openstack.org/#/c/541290/ also?16:08
stephenfinmriedem: I have not, but HyperV's support for all things NUMA is minimal at best16:09
stephenfinFar as I can tell, they let you define guest topologies but not anything to do with the host topology16:09
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stephenfinSo they don't do things like "restrict my instance's vCPU processes to CPUs from the same NUMA nodes as the attached PCI device". Wouldn't make sense (yet!) to do that for networks either16:10
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mriedemstephenfin: ok, as dansmith mentioned in the spec, it would be good to call out what is lacking in hyper-v to restrict them from being able to do the new magic16:20
mriedemstephenfin: if you haven't seen yet, lots of comments on that spec, mostly concerned about the data modeling changes being proposed16:20
dansmithyeah, sounds like it's cool, just a sentence saying "they don't do host topo" would be good I think16:20
mriedemi'd also like to know what's going on with bauzas' numa topology modeling in placement spec16:21
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mriedemsince this could technically depend on that and then we wouldn't need to build in more claims logic in the RT for this stuff16:21
bauzasmriedem: I need to update my spec16:21
mriedemlike, if numa support is not even close for rocky, then i just need to know that16:21
mriedembauzas: you should probably read https://review.openstack.org/#/c/541290/ if you haven't already16:22
bauzasmriedem: I'm a bit on and off given the previous week and the next one, but okay16:22
bauzasmaybe we could discuss that in Vancouver ?16:23
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cfriesenanyone know offhand where the code is that determines how much disk to consume if the flavor specifies a size of zero?16:24
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openstackgerritEric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: Use placement.inventory.inuse in report client  https://review.openstack.org/56863916:30
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mriedembauzas: i don't think we have any related forum sessions for something like this16:30
mriedemunless you just mean between sessions16:30
bauzasbetween, yeah16:30
bauzasanyway16:30
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bauzasI'll look at the spec tomorrow if I can16:31
bauzasI still have 3 free days16:31
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova stable/queens: Don't reschedule on RequestedVRamTooHigh errors  https://review.openstack.org/56864216:55
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova stable/queens: Added ability to configure default architecture for ImagePropertiesFilter  https://review.openstack.org/56857517:10
openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova master: Update auth_url in install docs  https://review.openstack.org/56800217:10
mriedemdansmith: that queens backport is ready to launch now https://review.openstack.org/#/c/568363/17:13
dansmithright on17:13
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova master: Add INVENTORY_INUSE to DELETE /rp/{u}/inventories  https://review.openstack.org/56857817:16
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melwittgibi, efried: there's not much of a plan. I'm going to put together a short slide deck similar to this cinder one from the boston summit (in case we need it) https://www.slideshare.net/JayBryant2/openstack-cinder-onboarding-education-boston-summit-201717:32
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melwittI was thinking I'll also prepare a set of logs from a gate run showing how to trace a request through the various nova services, in case anyone is interested in that17:33
melwittif you have any other topic ideas, it would help to have more choices available because what we usually do is poll the room and ask what topic they most like to hear about17:34
efriedmelwitt: When sdague did that (walk through logs) in Boston I found it super useful.  So ++ to that idea.17:35
efriedum, Boston or Austin, can't remember.17:36
melwittI think you're right that it was boston17:37
openstackgerritEric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: Use placement.inventory.inuse in report client  https://review.openstack.org/56863917:41
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openstackgerritEric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: Use placement.inventory.inuse in report client  https://review.openstack.org/56863918:20
openstackgerritEric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: Use placement.inventory.inuse in report client  https://review.openstack.org/56863918:20
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openstackgerritmelanie witt proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Propose counting quota usage from placement and API database  https://review.openstack.org/50904218:28
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Add granular policy rules for resource providers inventories  https://review.openstack.org/56866618:37
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openstackgerritmelanie witt proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Propose counting quota usage from placement and API database  https://review.openstack.org/50904218:49
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efriedmelwitt: Is it cheaper to get a list of instance UUIDs than whatever "instance_mappings" is?18:59
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melwittefried: what do you mean? instance_mappings (API database table) is the cheapest way to get a list of instance UUIDs. otherwise you have to query multiple cell databases to get lists of UUIDs to merge19:04
efriedokay, cool, that's what I was asking.19:04
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openstackgerritsunku ranganath proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Submitting blueprint describing usage of resource management daemon to control and use cache as a resource  https://review.openstack.org/56867819:27
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Implement granular policy rules for placement  https://review.openstack.org/52442519:32
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Add granular policy rules for /resource_classes*  https://review.openstack.org/56557819:32
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Add granular policy rules for resource providers inventories  https://review.openstack.org/56866619:32
artomDo we do nested objects printing in debug mode?19:33
artomSo, InstancePCIRequests has a list of InstancePCIRequest19:34
artomLogging the former at debug level... it is supposed to print out in full the latter as well?19:34
artomLooking at https://github.com/openstack/oslo.versionedobjects/blob/master/oslo_versionedobjects/base.py#L309, I don't think so19:35
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artomLooks like it only prints the object names of the "nested" objects, right?19:35
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openstackgerritZack Cornelius proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Libvirt file backed memory  https://review.openstack.org/56370419:38
dansmithartom: that calls this for an object field: https://github.com/openstack/oslo.versionedobjects/blob/master/oslo_versionedobjects/fields.py#L81919:38
dansmithartom: which tries to get some reasonable identifying information to print,19:38
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dansmithbut doesn't recurse and repr() the object inside19:38
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dansmithjust because it can get really hard to eye-parse that in a useful way, but if you see Instance(...., service=Service(123),...) then you can make sense out of that19:39
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artomAh, thanks for choosing the right words - "recurse and repr()" indeed19:39
artomYeah, the rationale makes sense19:39
artomExcept I need resursive repr in this particular case :/19:40
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mriedemesberglu: just to check sanity, the in-tree powervm ci isn't running some snapshot tests b/c they are on power states that the driver doesn't yet support, like test_create_image_from_paused_server and test_create_image_from_suspended_server right?19:51
esberglumriedem: Correct19:54
efriedmriedem: Because https://github.com/powervm/powervm-ci/blob/master/devstack/master/intree/local.conf#L10019:57
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mriedemesberglu: efried: what passes the disk_path into the StreamToGlance task? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/543023/20/nova/virt/powervm/tasks/image.py@7320:22
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mriedemi thought it was the output of the last task in the flow,20:22
mriedemwhich from what i can tell is UpdateTaskState20:22
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esberglumriedem: InstanceDiskToMgmt https://review.openstack.org/#/c/543023/20/nova/virt/powervm/tasks/storage.py@21320:25
mriedembut that returns a tuple20:25
mriedemoh,20:26
mriedemor does taskflow store the provided values in some memory cache and then put those into the next task that requires one of them by name?20:26
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esberglumriedem: Yes20:26
esbergluhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/543023/20/nova/virt/powervm/tasks/storage.py@23820:26
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mriedemso it's ansible20:27
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openstackgerritsunku ranganath proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Use resource management daemon to manage cache as a resource  https://review.openstack.org/56867820:31
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova stable/queens: libvirt: Report the virtual size of RAW disks  https://review.openstack.org/56836320:36
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mriedemesberglu: efried: the mock of builtins.open in here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/543023/ is pretty gross,20:48
mriedemthat's what mock_open is fore20:48
mriedem*for20:48
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Add retrying to requirements.txt  https://review.openstack.org/56869220:50
openstackgerritsunku ranganath proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Use resource management daemon to manage cache as a resource  https://review.openstack.org/56867820:52
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova master: Remove mox in tests/unit/api/*/test_volumes.py  https://review.openstack.org/56465520:56
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mriedemwhere are these ssp.capabilities even checked?21:04
mriedemefried: esberglu: re SSPDiskAdapter.capabilities21:05
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mriedemesberglu: questions in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/549053/21:12
mriedemarvindn05: i think we should probably drop https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/glance-image-traits from the runways queue because it doesn't have pending changes for the main part of the series, like the rebuild stuff21:15
openstackgerritmelanie witt proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Add additional information for z/VM spec.  https://review.openstack.org/56215421:15
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openstackgerritsunku ranganath proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Use resource management daemon to manage cache as a resource  https://review.openstack.org/56867821:25
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Implement granular policy rules for placement  https://review.openstack.org/52442521:27
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Add granular policy rules for /resource_classes*  https://review.openstack.org/56557821:27
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Add granular policy rules for resource providers inventories  https://review.openstack.org/56866621:27
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openstackgerritsunku ranganath proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Use resource management daemon to manage cache as a resource  https://review.openstack.org/56867821:36
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Add granular policy rules for usages  https://review.openstack.org/56870621:54
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Add granular policy rules for usages  https://review.openstack.org/56870621:55
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openstackgerritsunku ranganath proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Use resource management daemon to manage cache as a resource  https://review.openstack.org/56867822:00
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openstackgerritEric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: Debug logs for allocation_candidates filters  https://review.openstack.org/56871222:30
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openstackgerritEric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: Use GET.get instead of GET.getall in alloc-cands  https://review.openstack.org/56871322:35
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openstackgerritZack Cornelius proposed openstack/nova master: Implement file backed memory for instances in libvirt  https://review.openstack.org/56787622:57
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