| melwitt | mnaser: that's the series that caused the regression | 00:02 |
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| efried | dansmith: yt? | 00:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Add functional test for deleting BFV server with old attach flow https://review.openstack.org/546315 | 00:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Ensure attachment_id always exists for block device mapping https://review.openstack.org/546398 | 00:31 |
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| mnaser | well | 00:37 |
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| mnaser | neutron-grenade is blowing up for the queens backports | 00:37 |
| efried | Somebody, anybody with sqlalchemy skills | 00:37 |
| efried | or SQL skills. edleafe yt? | 00:37 |
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| melwitt | so the grenade is blowing up | 00:46 |
| melwitt | something is messed up: "rsync: change_dir "/opt/stack/old/tempest/.testrepository" failed: No such file or directory (2)" | 00:48 |
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| melwitt | http://logs.openstack.org/00/546200/2/gate/neutron-grenade/dbcbf60/logs/grenade.sh.txt.gz#_2018-02-21_23_43_04_990 | 00:48 |
| mnaser | melwitt: indeed i tracked it down | 00:50 |
| mnaser | melwitt: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/Ic1fa3a98b6bcd151c489b078028687892655a19b | 00:50 |
| melwitt | oh, nice | 00:50 |
| mnaser | melwitt: got a first +2, maybe if you can track down someone to +A .. hopefully | 00:52 |
| * mnaser grumbles something about branchless tempest | 00:53 | |
| melwitt | okay, lemme see | 00:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eric Berglund proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: PowerVM Driver: Network interface attach/detach https://review.openstack.org/546813 | 01:03 |
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| melwitt | dansmith: looks like you're a grenade core, if you could review these to unblock our stable/queens and stable/pike backports when you get a chance, maybe tomorrow morning if you can real quick https://review.openstack.org/#/c/546828/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/546831 | 01:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: rp: GET /resource_providers?required=<traits> https://review.openstack.org/546837 | 01:35 |
| efried | cdent, jaypipes: FYI ^ -- I think it's mostly done. Please do vet my sqla for potential optimizations. But be gentle - it took me a couple hours to get it working at all. | 01:37 |
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| efried | melwitt: Potential to have a Rocky bp closed before the PTG :) | 01:37 |
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| * efried is outta here. See ya in ~12h. | 01:38 | |
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| melwitt | dansmith: nvm on my earlier message, mtreinish was able to fast-approve | 02:10 |
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| ameeda | Morning :) , should I reverse os-xenapi version from 0.3.1 to 0.1.0 as this bug mentioned " https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1718606 " | 07:34 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1718606 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "doc: Outdated XenServer document" [Low,Confirmed] | 07:34 |
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| bauzas | good morning Nova | 08:57 |
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| * efried waves at bauzas | 10:31 | |
| bauzas | efried: you're too early, go to bed | 10:31 |
| bauzas | or you're stuck in some airport, hopefully not traveling with our lovely national airline | 10:32 |
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| efried | bauzas: Trying to get ahead of jetlag a little bit. | 10:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Tetsuro Nakamura proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Support shared and dedicated VMs in one host https://review.openstack.org/543805 | 10:33 |
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| tetsuro | jaypipes, cfriesen: ^ updated the spec. | 10:34 |
| bauzas | efried: jetlag is just a subjective problem | 10:36 |
| efried | Says bauzas, who's only one time zone off | 10:36 |
| bauzas | efried: heh, touché | 10:37 |
| bauzas | efried: but as an european, I mostly went to the US than any other region in the world for OpenStack :p | 10:37 |
| efried | I grew up mostly in Europe with family back in the US, so I flew back a couple times a year and got to experience jetlag plenty as a kid. | 10:37 |
| efried | Sounds like you've got a good handle on it, and/or you're one of the lucky ones it doesn't affect badly. | 10:38 |
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| efried | Easier traveling East, if I recall, as long as you have the discipline to stay up all night. | 10:39 |
| efried | or maybe it's the other way around. Sheesh, it HAS been a long time since I've been overseas. | 10:39 |
| efried | something like 15y | 10:40 |
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| bauzas | efried: easier traveling West, if you're a night owl | 10:46 |
| efried | bauzas: I haven't had the luxury of being a night owl in many many years. | 10:47 |
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| efried | Man, I used to get my best work done between about 9pm and 3am. But that was back in the college & startup days. | 10:48 |
| efried | Now I have kids and a side business. | 10:48 |
| bauzas | I have kids too | 10:48 |
| bauzas | but taking them at school at 4:30pm kills me | 10:48 |
| bauzas | so I tend to try working later in the evening | 10:48 |
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| efried | My wife *usually* handles the school runs on both ends. She has multiple flexible part-time jobs, so it's fair :) | 10:51 |
| efried | hm | 10:52 |
| efried | bauzas: How do you feel about this: | 10:52 |
| bauzas | I recently invested in a Bose QC35 II, that helps a lot | 10:52 |
| efried | I think when you do GET /allocation_candidates?required=BOGUS_TRAIT you get a 404 (because the trait isn't found). | 10:53 |
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| efried | Should that be a 400 instead? (bad query params) | 10:53 |
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| bauzas | I'm not an API specialist | 10:53 |
| efried | Yeah, but you're *here* | 10:53 |
| bauzas | but it's not a malformed query ? | 10:53 |
| bauzas | right? | 10:53 |
| efried | Well, "malformed"... | 10:54 |
| bauzas | it's just that the resource isn't found | 10:54 |
| bauzas | hence the 404 | 10:54 |
| efried | But it's not the *resource* that's not found. It's the *trait*. | 10:54 |
| efried | I think all of our placement APIs return 200 with an empty list when you use filter criteria that yield zero results (but are otherwise valid) | 10:55 |
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| efried | Anyway, this seems wrong to me. I'm going to raise a bug and see how others feel. | 10:55 |
| efried | never mind, I think I'm wrong. | 10:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Surya Seetharaman proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Support disabling a cell https://review.openstack.org/546684 | 11:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: rp: GET /resource_providers?required=<traits> https://review.openstack.org/546837 | 11:01 |
| efried | ka-blam ^ | 11:01 |
| bauzas | efried: sorry, my computer decided on its own without asking me first to consider taking a rest | 11:02 |
| bauzas | so it froze | 11:02 |
| efried | heh, lovely. | 11:02 |
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| efried | So yeah, it was my mistake; GET /allocation_candidates probably returns 400 in that case. I was missing an exception handler. | 11:03 |
| bauzas | efried: sweet | 11:03 |
| efried | Feel free to review the above placement microversion bump with new query param :) | 11:03 |
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| bauzas | efried: sure, /me needs to look a few things | 11:03 |
| efried | Who knows, if we get the right people on IRC today, we could have that blueprint completed before the PTG... | 11:04 |
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| efried | Ah, dangit, forgot the reference docs. | 11:08 |
| bauzas | efried: well, sure, but I'm triaging the bugs now | 11:08 |
| bauzas | 18 new bugs yesterday, now 22 :' | 11:08 |
| bauzas | :( | 11:08 |
| efried | It's totally not urgent. Just be a nice tickymark to have | 11:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: rp: GET /resource_providers?required=<traits> https://review.openstack.org/546837 | 11:14 |
| efried | API ref added | 11:14 |
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| hrw | monrign | 11:21 |
| bauzas | efried: interesting bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1750790 | 11:24 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1750790 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "resources on target host aren't released if resize fails" [Undecided,New] | 11:24 |
| bauzas | efried: I wonder if we should support that | 11:24 |
| bauzas | some possible exception we forgot | 11:24 |
| efried | bauzas: Just based on the title, it sounds like a valid bug. | 11:25 |
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| bauzas | efried: the problem was that the folk forgot to provide SSH keys | 11:25 |
| bauzas | hence the error | 11:26 |
| efried | Does the instance exist on both hosts while it's in the error state? | 11:26 |
| bauzas | no, because https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/admin/configuration/resize.html | 11:27 |
| efried | Oh, I see, so it didn't even get started. | 11:28 |
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| efried | bauzas: 2.16 - that's Pike, right? | 11:28 |
| efried | You may want to check with dansmith on this one, but I'm pretty sure in Pike we were still doing the "duplicate allocations" thing the wrong way. | 11:29 |
| efried | So this is at least a duplicate bug, and possibly a wontfix | 11:29 |
| bauzas | efried: 16.0.3 is the Pike 3rd stable release | 11:29 |
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| efried | Yeah, IIRC, we punted on actually trying to fix the duplicate allocations thing in pike. I actually don't even know if we fully fixed it in queens - it depended on cdent's POST allocations thing - but I want to say we did. | 11:30 |
| efried | But don't quote me on this. dansmith will know for sure, mriedem probably will too. | 11:30 |
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| efried | um, I also may be thinking of live migration - which isn't the same as resize?? I can never keep it straight. | 11:31 |
| efried | Gotta run for a couple hours. | 11:32 |
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| mriedem | melwitt: are you running the meeting today? | 13:42 |
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| mriedem | any other takers? | 13:46 |
| mriedem | i've got a kid i have to get on the bus | 13:46 |
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| jaypipes | mriedem: when is it? | 13:47 |
| mriedem | 12 minutes | 13:48 |
| melwitt | mriedem: yeah, I didn't realize gibi was on vacation this week | 13:48 |
| mriedem | ok | 13:48 |
| kashyap | melwitt: Wauw, isn't it like 05:45 AM for you there? | 13:48 |
| melwitt | tis | 13:48 |
| kashyap | Jee | 13:49 |
| melwitt | oh, fyi everyone I'm traveling today and tomorrow to the PTG. so I won't be around later today and tomorrow | 13:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova stable/queens: Only pull associated *sharing* providers https://review.openstack.org/546740 | 13:51 |
| jaypipes | efried: you around? | 13:51 |
| efried | jaypipes: Yup. | 13:51 |
| sean-k-mooney | melwitt: nice :) going to do some siteseeing over the weekend? | 13:51 |
| jaypipes | efried: you pinged me last night about something but it's gone from my scrollback... what was it? | 13:51 |
| efried | jaypipes: I desperately needed some SQL help. | 13:52 |
| melwitt | sean-k-mooney: on saturday yes. on sunday we have an internal meeting day | 13:52 |
| jaypipes | efried: I don't know anything about SQL | 13:52 |
| efried | jaypipes: But I slogged through it, with much cursing, and put up a patch for GET /resource_providers?required=<traits> | 13:52 |
| jaypipes | efried: ah, cool. | 13:52 |
| * hrw prepared for a meetin. ate, coffee mug refilled ;D | 13:53 | |
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| efried | jaypipes: We could conceivably get this blueprint closed before the PTG :) | 13:53 |
| jaypipes | efried: nothing wrong with that, IMHO. | 13:53 |
| efried | jaypipes: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/546837/ | 13:53 |
| efried | Yeah, I thought it would be a nice tickymark. | 13:53 |
| jaypipes | efried: that multiattach failure related? | 13:53 |
| jaypipes | don't see how it could be, but worth asking... | 13:54 |
| efried | jaypipes: No, random timeout. | 13:54 |
| efried | I rechecked. | 13:54 |
| jaypipes | k | 13:54 |
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| jaypipes | melwitt, dansmith, mriedem, bauzas: one of the easier specs to +2/W here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/546009/2 | 13:54 |
| bauzas | mriedem: melwitt: gibi_off told me about that, I was planning to chair it | 13:55 |
| bauzas | but fine by me | 13:55 |
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| sean-k-mooney | jaypipes: efried: if your makeing a list of blueprints that could be closed before the ptg the nic feature based scheduling blueprint has been code complete since pike and is fully rebased for rocky. spec needs to be reapproved and patches re reviwed though | 13:56 |
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| melwitt | bauzas: okay, cool. yeah, I realized I'd have to get up early to make sure you were able to run it anyway so I might as well do it. it was my bad. thanks though | 13:56 |
| jaypipes | sean-k-mooney: link pls | 13:56 |
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| sean-k-mooney | jaypipes: code https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/enable-sriov-nic-features spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/545951/ | 13:57 |
| sean-k-mooney | on tox faild on the spec ill go fix that now | 13:57 |
| jaypipes | sean-k-mooney: danke | 13:58 |
| sean-k-mooney | did something change in the template between rocky and queens? | 13:58 |
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| melwitt | sean-k-mooney: there's one new section, Upgrade impact | 13:58 |
| bauzas | melwitt: heh, no worries | 13:59 |
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| sean-k-mooney | melwitt: ah yes that is exactly the error http://logs.openstack.org/51/545951/1/check/openstack-tox-pep8/9898780/job-output.txt.gz#_2018-02-19_20_27_16_685503 ill add it and reupload | 13:59 |
| mriedem | jaypipes: i'll look after said busification | 13:59 |
| mriedem | and coffee injections | 14:00 |
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| bauzas | mriedem: alrready looking ;) | 14:00 |
| jaypipes | mriedem: 10-4 | 14:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tetsuro Nakamura proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Support shared and dedicated VMs in one host https://review.openstack.org/543805 | 14:13 |
| bauzas | melwitt: mriedem: I'm about to set Invalid for https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1751036 | 14:13 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1751036 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "ConfigFileValueError when defining enabled_apis" [Undecided,New] | 14:13 |
| bauzas | because of the interop APIs | 14:14 |
| mriedem | bauzas: i'm in a meeting atm | 14:14 |
| bauzas | but do you agree ? | 14:14 |
| bauzas | that I now, let's discuss later | 14:14 |
| bauzas | know* | 14:14 |
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| tetsuro | jaypipes, cfriesen: now this spec https://review.openstack.org/543805 is ready for review again. | 14:38 |
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| jaypipes | tetsuro: cool, thanks. (currently in nova meeting) | 14:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: Make _get_sharing_providers more efficient https://review.openstack.org/547008 | 14:42 |
| tetsuro | Oops | 14:42 |
| efried | jaypipes, cdent: ^ the optimization that prompted the feature | 14:42 |
| jaypipes | tetsuro: it's no prob :) | 14:44 |
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| tetsuro | jaypipes: I put your proposal into alternative section. The proposal sounds really attractive to me. But it is not kindful to operators, I guess. | 14:53 |
| jaypipes | tetsuro: the proposal to just determine the shared pin set by subtracting the dedicate pin set from vcpu_pin_set? | 14:54 |
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| tetsuro | jaypipes: right. | 14:55 |
| jaypipes | tetsuro: gotcha. ok, will re-review this morning :) | 14:56 |
| tetsuro | thanks in advance! | 14:56 |
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| jaypipes | tetsuro: no problemo :) | 14:58 |
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| bauzas | melwitt: mriedem: maybe worth discussing Rambo's spec at the PTG during the cinder/nova cross-session on Thurs ? | 15:01 |
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| bauzas | or we could discuss the design before that, but if after, we loose the possibility to ask Cinder for a rebuild thingy | 15:02 |
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| melwitt | bauzas: that might be a good idea if we have time. since it's possible there's something they could do on their side to facilitate it | 15:07 |
| bauzas | melwitt: for the moment I added L333 on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-ptg-rocky | 15:08 |
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| bauzas | melwitt: because mriedem wanted to discuss about all the rebuild problems we have | 15:08 |
| mriedem | there is nothing i would like to discuss more than rebuild problems | 15:14 |
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| bauzas | mriedem: melwitt: maybe we could start a discussion about rebuild on wed if time allows | 15:15 |
| bauzas | I know there is a huuuuuge Placement discussion that would occur most on all the afternoon, but maybe I should be tired after 3 hours ;) | 15:17 |
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| mriedem | if we talk about this rebuild + bfv thing, | 15:20 |
| mriedem | it should either be with the cinder people in the room, | 15:21 |
| mriedem | or on misc friday | 15:21 |
| melwitt | +1 | 15:21 |
| mriedem | b/c this is a misc thing | 15:21 |
| bauzas | mriedem: melwitt: FWIW, I'll need to leave the room by Friday noon | 15:22 |
| bauzas | for my flight :( | 15:22 |
| bauzas | but yeah, we could discuss about rebuilding volume-backed stuff with Cinder folks | 15:23 |
| bauzas | anyway | 15:23 |
| mriedem | we'll be sure to schedule all cheese-related discussions for friday morning | 15:23 |
| dansmith | jaypipes: I approved that spec | 15:26 |
| dansmith | jaypipes: you can repay me by approving this compute rpc compat drop, which I know you want anyway: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/543580/ | 15:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eric Berglund proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: PowerVM Driver: Network interface attach/detach https://review.openstack.org/546813 | 15:27 |
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| bauzas | mriedem: on an interop concern, should we accept other APIs but the ones we have in-tree ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1751036 | 15:31 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1751036 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "ConfigFileValueError when defining enabled_apis" [Undecided,New] | 15:31 |
| bauzas | I tend to say no | 15:31 |
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| melwitt | mriedem: please double check me on the rc3 tag https://review.openstack.org/#/c/547031/1/deliverables/queens/nova.yaml | 15:36 |
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| mriedem | efried: jaypipes: dansmith: left a comment in that spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/546009/ - fine to amend with some details | 15:37 |
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| mriedem | melwitt: done | 15:39 |
| mriedem | melwitt: also that commit hash might end up being a merge commit | 15:39 |
| mriedem | that's why we need the depends-on | 15:39 |
| melwitt | mriedem: thanks. so if I keep the commit hash the same + depends-on, it will work fine? | 15:39 |
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| mriedem | not if we need to use a merge commit | 15:40 |
| mriedem | i would just add the depends-on and then WIP | 15:40 |
| mriedem | don't want to get caught by the old smcginnis trigger finger | 15:41 |
| melwitt | oh okay. I thought I had seen you propose a commit hash ahead of merge before but maybe I made that up | 15:41 |
| smcginnis | :) | 15:41 |
| mriedem | i generally do, and the job fails until i fix it up | 15:41 |
| melwitt | thanks | 15:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova-specs master: Filter Resource Provider List for Traits https://review.openstack.org/546009 | 15:44 |
| jaypipes | mriedem: k | 15:44 |
| mriedem | bauzas: i'm sort of surprised we don't allow ec2 in enabled_apis? i'm not sure how the ec2api code works w/o that | 15:45 |
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| bauzas | mriedem: ec2api is somehow stale now AFAIK | 15:46 |
| bauzas | ansiwen: around ? | 15:47 |
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| bauzas | ansiwen: see mriedem's point about ec2api not being in the enabled apis | 15:47 |
| bauzas | if so, is it run separately? | 15:47 |
| mriedem | it's still maintained | 15:47 |
| bauzas | mriedem: back to my original concern, I don't see why Nova should support other out-of-tree APIs | 15:47 |
| bauzas | if people want to run their own APIs, why not running a specific WSGI server et voilà ? | 15:48 |
| bauzas | a new endpoint | 15:48 |
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| edleafe | bauzas: I've wanted to simplify the pathing to reflect that there is only one Nova API | 15:49 |
| edleafe | bauzas: e.g., change nova/api/openstack/compute to just nova/api/compute | 15:49 |
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| edleafe | But alex_xu has pointed out there are compatibilty issues | 15:50 |
| edleafe | with api-paste.ini | 15:50 |
| bauzas | edleafe: so you pointed me that enabled_apis shouldn't accept more than just nova and metadata ? | 15:50 |
| mriedem | what does the GCE API do? | 15:50 |
| bauzas | s/pointed/agreed with ? | 15:50 |
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| bauzas | mriedem: mmm, WAT ? | 15:52 |
| dansmith | mriedem: I guess I see that distinction as a fundamental difference between allocation_candidates and resource_providers | 15:52 |
| mriedem | https://github.com/openstack/gce-api/blob/master/gceapi/cmd/api.py#L34 | 15:52 |
| bauzas | we have a GCE proxy ? | 15:52 |
| mriedem | bauzas: the gce api proxy is way old | 15:52 |
| dansmith | mriedem: which is kinda why we ended up adding a_c I think | 15:52 |
| * bauzas is amazed | 15:52 | |
| edleafe | bauzas: yeah, we only support the openstack api, so the extra directory level in the project is not needed | 15:53 |
| bauzas | anyhow | 15:53 |
| bauzas | let's triage the bug as Invalid | 15:53 |
| bauzas | and ask them to run their own WSGI service | 15:53 |
| bauzas | (FWIW, I know those OCCI folks since 2013, I'm not surprised they never went upstream) | 15:54 |
| bauzas | mriedem: back to the ec2api, ansiwen told us that it was barely maintained | 15:55 |
| mriedem | bauzas: done | 15:55 |
| bauzas | so maybe it's some misunderstanding from me | 15:55 |
| mriedem | well the occi nova ooi or whatever code is in github | 15:55 |
| mriedem | so it's available, which is fine | 15:55 |
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| efried | mriedem: What dansmith said. It doesn't make sense for me to say "return me a list of resource providers where the union of all their traits is [this list]". Because I would either get all of them or none of them. An allocation candidate is a list of *groups* of resource providers, where each *group* must satisfy the list of traits. s/traits/resources/ and the answer is the same. | 16:02 |
| efried | I.e. the difference between rp and ac for traits is the same as the difference between rp and ac for resources, if that makes any sense :) | 16:02 |
| dansmith | efried: right, that's how I think of it exactly | 16:03 |
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| mriedem | i get it fellas | 16:06 |
| mriedem | and it was discussed in comments in the spec, | 16:06 |
| mriedem | but for posterity sake, | 16:07 |
| mriedem | let's doc that in the spec | 16:07 |
| mriedem | so a year from now we can say why | 16:07 |
| efried | mriedem: Roger that, will do. | 16:07 |
| dansmith | mriedem: if you mean saying "because a_c is $description, we behave this way on this..." then sure | 16:07 |
| dansmith | I don't really want to have to fully explain a_c every time we do something like this, but... | 16:08 |
| mriedem | you can explain it now in a doc so we can point people to it, | 16:08 |
| mriedem | or you can explain it in channel once per quarter | 16:08 |
| efried | or I can win the lottery and dansmith can explain it. | 16:10 |
| efried | I'll write a fup. | 16:10 |
| mriedem | will there be duty free irish spring at the airport? | 16:12 |
| ansiwen | bauzas: mriedem , yeah, ec2api is a pure "hobby" project nowadays. Which doesn't mean it's not maintained. But there is less activity to be expected, compared to a project which is backed by a company that has commercial interests. | 16:12 |
| mriedem | ansiwen: ack, and it has users, so maintenance is probably ok | 16:13 |
| bauzas | call it maintenance state then | 16:13 |
| bauzas | anyway | 16:13 |
| ansiwen | bauzas: mriedem _if_ something breaks, it could take quite a while until it is fixed. | 16:15 |
| mriedem | ansiwen: it takes us 4 years to fix a bug | 16:15 |
| mriedem | so it's fine | 16:15 |
| bauzas | that's exactly what a maintenance state describes | 16:15 |
| bauzas | it doesn't tell you how long you will fix bugs | 16:15 |
| ansiwen | mriedem: he he... ok, fair enough :-) | 16:15 |
| bauzas | it will just say "okay, we know we have bugs and we will provide bugfixes soon" | 16:15 |
| mriedem | soon, or not, | 16:16 |
| mriedem | whatever | 16:16 |
| bauzas | "but for features, don't get me wrong and don't expect a pony" | 16:16 |
| mriedem | unless that pony makes it run at the EDGE | 16:16 |
| bauzas | "unless you have your pockets full of dollars" | 16:17 |
| bauzas | or euros, rather | 16:17 |
| mriedem | right that too | 16:17 |
| bauzas | given the exchange rate | 16:17 |
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| mriedem | jaypipes: so on your compute capabilities traits patch, i was thinking, | 16:18 |
| bauzas | mriedem: unrelated, I looked at that bug this EU morning https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1750790 | 16:18 |
| jaypipes | uhoh | 16:18 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1750790 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "resources on target host aren't released if resize fails" [Undecided,New] | 16:18 |
| mriedem | it should be possible to do my nova patch that adds the custom capabilities traits, then if/when we have them standardized in os-traits, we can swap those out, should be ok... | 16:19 |
| bauzas | mriedem: and I wonder if that would merit a Wontfix given it's a pike change | 16:19 |
| mriedem | although, anything relying on the former would have to change.. | 16:19 |
| bauzas | s/pike change/pike bug/ | 16:19 |
| mriedem | jaypipes: i'm trying to think through what happens when we add a new capability, if that depends on putting it in os-traits first, and it probably should | 16:19 |
| mriedem | because if we have say a placement request filter adding in required traits for driver capabilities, it has to specify one or the other | 16:20 |
| mriedem | or maybe not... | 16:20 |
| jaypipes | mriedem: I wouldn't advise the "auto-create CUSTOM_COMPUTE" thing for that reason... | 16:20 |
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| mriedem | i guess if allocation candidations would return either it'd be fine | 16:20 |
| mriedem | *candidates | 16:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Mathieu Gagné proposed openstack/nova master: Fix rebuild of baremetal instance when vm_state is ERROR https://review.openstack.org/523559 | 16:20 |
| jaypipes | mriedem: I'd instead advise having the virt drivers report specific known os-traits compute traits. | 16:20 |
| mriedem | yeah i agree that's the goal | 16:21 |
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| mriedem | so probably worth doing that to start | 16:21 |
| mriedem | i.e. land your os-traits patch, release it, and then use it in my patch | 16:21 |
| jaypipes | mriedem: ya. soon as efried stops being such a pedant about it :P | 16:21 |
| efried | oo, that's a good point jaypipes | 16:22 |
| efried | (not about me being a pedant, which is also a good point) | 16:22 |
| jaypipes | :) | 16:22 |
| efried | We should move the capabilities reporting away from the awkward dict and just have virt drivers report as traits directly. | 16:23 |
| efried | (long term) | 16:23 |
| mriedem | don't get me started on awkward dict | 16:24 |
| jaypipes | oh boy, here it comes | 16:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Explain how filters differ for /r_p vs. /a_c https://review.openstack.org/547056 | 16:25 |
| efried | mriedem: There ya go, ya pedant ^ | 16:25 |
| efried | dansmith: ^ | 16:25 |
| dansmith | efried: disappointed you didn't shame mriedem a little more with commit message snark | 16:25 |
| efried | oh, I forgot my backreference, sec... | 16:26 |
| edleafe | efried: yeah, -1 for lack of snark | 16:26 |
| mriedem | give me a f'ing break | 16:26 |
| mriedem | from the placement people that complain constantly about not documenting decisions enough | 16:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Explain how filters differ for /r_p vs. /a_c https://review.openstack.org/547056 | 16:26 |
| efried | fixed commit message ^ | 16:26 |
| dansmith | mriedem: I kid, I kid <3 | 16:27 |
| efried | mriedem: You're right, you're right, you're always right. | 16:27 |
| mriedem | dansmith: you're not in the 'we don't document stuff enough' camp | 16:27 |
| efried | (that chant doesn't come across quite the same in IRC as when I have to say it to my wife) | 16:27 |
| dansmith | mriedem: yep, just wild-west cowboy style for me.. pew pew | 16:27 |
| jaypipes | lol | 16:28 |
| mriedem | i assume those chaps are assless | 16:29 |
| mriedem | which is redundant i know | 16:29 |
| efried | It's gonna be low to mid 30s in Dublin. | 16:30 |
| jaypipes | well, assless chaps really are the best place to store an awkward dict. | 16:30 |
| jaypipes | I'll be here all week folks. | 16:30 |
| efried | Please dansmith, for the love of all that is hol(e)y, wear something under those chaps. | 16:30 |
| efried | Not a kilt, either | 16:30 |
| mriedem | easy bug fix here compadres https://review.openstack.org/#/c/546268/ | 16:32 |
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| jaypipes | -2 | 16:34 |
| mriedem | hongbin: i was thinking about your simple fix here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/546357/ - we should likely have a functional test change with that too, and i think there might be an easy way to do that with an existing test | 16:35 |
| efried | jaypipes, dansmith: Does GET /resource_providers?resources=... take allocations into account? | 16:35 |
| jaypipes | efried: yes | 16:35 |
| efried | k | 16:35 |
| mriedem | hongbin: see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/546268/1/nova/tests/functional/test_servers.py - you can probably modify that same functional test such that before posting the rebuild action, we change the compute provider's inventory such that placement wouldn't return the provider w/o your fix | 16:36 |
| hongbin | mriedem: sure, will look into it | 16:36 |
| jaypipes | mriedem: done. | 16:37 |
| mriedem | hongbin: thanks for that patch btw, it was a lot simpler than i thought it would be | 16:37 |
| mriedem | jaypipes: thanks | 16:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: Clarify `resources` query param for /r_p and /a_c https://review.openstack.org/547065 | 16:44 |
| efried | jaypipes, mriedem, dansmith: There's that clarification you asked for ^ | 16:44 |
| mriedem | you missed your reference again | 16:44 |
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| jaypipes | lolol | 16:45 |
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| efried | the faah? | 16:45 |
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| mriedem | efried: but thanks for actually following up with my complaints | 16:45 |
| mriedem | karma points abound | 16:45 |
| efried | High impact:work ratio | 16:45 |
| * jaypipes envisions mriedem as the kung-fu master from Kill Bill Vol 2 | 16:45 | |
| mriedem | the guy that died via sexual asphyixiation? | 16:46 |
| jaypipes | rofl, no | 16:46 |
| efried | oy vay, you people. | 16:46 |
| mriedem | oh the white haired guy | 16:46 |
| jaypipes | yes | 16:46 |
| jaypipes | thanks goodness I wasn't sipping coffee just nopw | 16:46 |
| mriedem | i was thinking carradine | 16:46 |
| mriedem | isn't that how he died? | 16:46 |
| jaypipes | yes, I got that. | 16:47 |
| mriedem | he's dead right? | 16:47 |
| jaypipes | yes | 16:47 |
| mriedem | ok, whew | 16:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: Clarify `resources` query param for /r_p and /a_c https://review.openstack.org/547065 | 16:47 |
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| efried | Updated commit msg, sheesh ^ | 16:47 |
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| bauzas | dansmith: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1750790 should be marked as Wontfix, right? | 16:48 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1750790 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "resources on target host aren't released if resize fails" [Undecided,New] | 16:48 |
| bauzas | dansmith: as it's a Pike bug, and you fixed that in queens | 16:48 |
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| dansmith | um | 16:49 |
| kashyap | bauzas: BTW, once distributions upgrade to Linux 4.14 kernel, this will cease to be "Low" priority | 16:49 |
| kashyap | It'll definitely bite us, and cause nuisance | 16:49 |
| dansmith | bauzas: I'm not sure why we wouldn't fix it in pike just because we fixed it in queens | 16:50 |
| * dansmith is waiting for united wifi to load the bug | 16:50 | |
| efried | dansmith: bauzas may be basing that statement on something I said at 5am. This is about duplicate allocations on source & target. | 16:50 |
| bauzas | dansmith: no worries, I'll leave the bug open | 16:50 |
| bauzas | I'm way off reviewing specs, and I need to | 16:51 |
| dansmith | efried: okay | 16:51 |
| bauzas | so I'll stop looking at bugs | 16:51 |
| dansmith | I expect it's fixed in queens because of migration allocations | 16:51 |
| mriedem | bauzas: that's likely a bug that claudiub has a fix up for | 16:51 |
| efried | I didn't know whether we punted fixing that in pike because too complicated, and just fixed it in Queens with cdent's POST allocations business | 16:51 |
| dansmith | but we probably need a fix for pike still | 16:51 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: bauzas: not necessarily | 16:51 |
| mriedem | depends on where the failure happens | 16:51 |
| efried | yeah. But I also didn't know whether resize ~= migration in this case | 16:51 |
| mriedem | resize = cold migrate | 16:52 |
| efried | but still subject to duplicate allocations mriedem? | 16:52 |
| efried | i would spect so | 16:52 |
| mriedem | bauzas: dansmith: this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/543971/ | 16:52 |
| dansmith | mriedem: um, what? we only need a fix depending on where it happens? | 16:52 |
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| mriedem | efried: all move operations require an allocation on the source and dest hosts, | 16:52 |
| efried | makes sense. | 16:53 |
| mriedem | pre-queens, we just doubled those rather than split them | 16:53 |
| bauzas | mriedem: excellent, tz | 16:53 |
| bauzas | will close the bug as duplicate | 16:53 |
| mriedem | dansmith: if prep_resize fails, we cleanup the allocations | 16:53 |
| mriedem | if resize_instance fails, we don't, which is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/543971/ | 16:53 |
| mriedem | there are 10 places you can blow off your foot with resize | 16:53 |
| dansmith | sure, sounded like you were disagreeing with me that we need a fix | 16:53 |
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| mriedem | i think we're talking about different things | 16:54 |
| mriedem | or different failure scenarios | 16:54 |
| bauzas | right | 16:54 |
| bauzas | anyway, I'm done with triaging bugs for that week | 16:54 |
| mriedem | bauzas: i don't know if it's a duplicate, depends on where it fails | 16:55 |
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| mriedem | where does resize fail for missing ssh host keys? | 16:55 |
| bauzas | mriedem: anyhow, the bug was reported because the user forgot to provide SSH keys | 16:55 |
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| bauzas | while we ask for that | 16:55 |
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| mriedem | ok let's assume it's the same problem then :) | 16:55 |
| mriedem | if it's not, they can re-open | 16:55 |
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| bauzas | zactly | 16:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova stable/queens: Add functional test for deleting BFV server with old attach flow https://review.openstack.org/546803 | 17:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova stable/queens: Ensure attachment_id always exists for block device mapping https://review.openstack.org/546804 | 17:02 |
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| mriedem | +2 on claudiub's fix now https://review.openstack.org/#/c/543971/ | 17:03 |
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| mriedem | gdi i'm annoyed that we run several tempest jobs for docs changes | 17:09 |
| mriedem | and that irrelevant-files isn't overridable | 17:09 |
| mriedem | mdbooth: are you around? | 17:12 |
| mdbooth | mriedem: I am! | 17:13 |
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| mriedem | mdbooth: can you take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/542646/ ? it's related to a restriction / validation you put into the api | 17:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: rp: GET /resource_providers?required=<traits> https://review.openstack.org/546837 | 17:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: Make _get_sharing_providers more efficient https://review.openstack.org/547008 | 17:15 |
| efried | edleafe: ^^ | 17:15 |
| efried | I mean ^ | 17:15 |
| efried | Anyone else have an IRC client that converts emoticons to graphics? | 17:15 |
| mdbooth | mriedem: So it's my understanding that your reproducer *should* fail. | 17:18 |
| efried | That *would* be an awkward dict situation | 17:19 |
| mdbooth | mriedem: I have always taken min_disk to mean: the stuff this image does requires at least this much space. | 17:19 |
| mdbooth | Which is obviously different to the image size. | 17:20 |
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| mriedem | mdbooth: i don't think that's the original image min_disk though | 17:22 |
| mriedem | we say that's the min_disk b/c of the flavor root_gb | 17:23 |
| mdbooth | mriedem: Reading back a bit more I was just going to ask exactly that. | 17:23 |
| mdbooth | It sounds to me like the bug is in the setting of min_disk in the first place, then. | 17:23 |
| mdbooth | It should be the min_disk of the original image. | 17:23 |
| mriedem | so on my devstack right now, the single cirros image has min_disk=0 | 17:23 |
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| mriedem | i can create a 1GB volume as the boot disk for my server that has that image in it, | 17:24 |
| mriedem | snapshot it, and nova says the min_disk for the snapshot is now equal to the flavor.root_gb | 17:24 |
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| mriedem | 20 in my case | 17:24 |
| mriedem | 20GB | 17:24 |
| mdbooth | IMHO the bug is " and nova says the min_disk for the snapshot is now equal to the flavor.root_gb" | 17:25 |
| mriedem | lemme create a volume from the image and see what the image meta shows in the volume | 17:25 |
| mriedem | i agre | 17:25 |
| mriedem | *agree | 17:25 |
| mdbooth | IOW, I think the bug happens before the proposed fix | 17:25 |
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| claudiub | mriedem: regarding your comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/543971/5/nova/compute/manager.py , you mean the docstring which is on finish_resize (L4444), or a new one explaining the allocation cleanup part? | 17:26 |
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| mriedem | mdbooth: ok so i created a 1GB volume from a cirros image in devstack http://paste.openstack.org/show/682285/ | 17:26 |
| mriedem | | volume_image_metadata | {u'container_format': u'bare', u'min_ram': u'0', u'disk_format': u'qcow2', u'image_name': u'cirros-0.3.5-x86_64-disk', u'image_id': u'9491dd49-665c-46f4-9dbf-9a94aa1c9843', u'checksum': u'f8ab98ff5e73ebab884d80c9dc9c7290', u'min_disk': u'0', u'size': u'13267968'} | | 17:26 |
| mriedem | the volume image meta shows the internal image min_disk is 0 | 17:26 |
| mriedem | mdbooth: what i'm not sure about, is if nova should say the volume-backed snapshot image min_disk should be the original image min_disk, or the volume size? | 17:27 |
| mriedem | or, maybe we just don't care | 17:27 |
| mriedem | and shouldn't even put min_disk in the snapshot | 17:27 |
| mriedem | because if you use that thing to create another server, nova is going to boot from volume using the volume snapshot metadata embedded in the snapshot image | 17:27 |
| mriedem | ie block_device_mapping='[{"guest_format": null, "boot_index": 0, "delete_on_termination": false, "no_device": null, "snapshot_id": "1158debc-9922-458d-9b46-8ef688334d65", "device_name": "/dev/vda", "disk_bus": "virtio", "image_id": null, "source_type": "snapshot", "tag": null, "device_type": "disk", "volume_id": null, "destination_type": "volume", "volume_size": 1}]' | 17:28 |
| mriedem | so nova shouldn't really care about min_disk in this case | 17:28 |
| mriedem | we're not going to create an ephemeral disk for the server, we're going to create a volume | 17:28 |
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| mriedem | here https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/virt/block_device.py#L684 | 17:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova-specs master: Explain how filters differ for /r_p vs. /a_c https://review.openstack.org/547056 | 17:29 |
| mriedem | claudiub: i meant on the new _finish_resize_helper method, | 17:29 |
| mdbooth | I think min_disk should stay, and be the min_disk of the original image, because it's image metadata. | 17:30 |
| mdbooth | Same as hw_* says the image needs certain hardware | 17:30 |
| mdbooth | min_disk says it needs so much disk | 17:30 |
| mriedem | for the image sure, | 17:31 |
| mriedem | so the min_disk on the image could be 100MB, and the volume could be 1GB | 17:31 |
| mriedem | anyway, that also works for me i think | 17:31 |
| mdbooth | min_disk is about the *workload*, not how big the disk is | 17:31 |
| mdbooth | We already know exactly how many bits are physically required to unpack it. | 17:31 |
| mdbooth | min_disk says how much space is required to operate | 17:32 |
| mdbooth | IOW we shouldn't be arbitrarily setting it where it wasn't set before. | 17:32 |
| mdbooth | If we're going to exclude it, it should be in the context of a generic ability to filter arbitrary image metadata when creating a snapshot. | 17:33 |
| mdbooth | Or entirely disabling copying image metadata, more likely. | 17:34 |
| mdbooth | But I don't think min_disk can be treated specially by excluding it if it's set. | 17:35 |
| mriedem | well we do have the non_inheritable_image_properties config option, which sucks since it's config-based API behavior | 17:35 |
| mdbooth | Yeah | 17:36 |
| mriedem | i guess that's just more about stuff you put into your images which shouldn't apply across snapshots, like signatures | 17:36 |
| mdbooth | For now, I think the solution is to find whatever's setting it where it wasn't set before and kill that. | 17:36 |
| mdbooth | Hopefully it's not cinder :/ | 17:37 |
| mriedem | not following you - setting it where it wasn't set before? | 17:37 |
| mriedem | that's nova | 17:37 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/542646/2/nova/compute/api.py | 17:37 |
| mriedem | oh sec | 17:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova master: hyper-v: autospec classes before they are instantiated https://review.openstack.org/342211 | 17:38 |
| mriedem | mdbooth: nova.utils.get_image_from_system_metadata | 17:38 |
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| mriedem | but yeah i'm not exactly where where that min_disk value is coming from the flavor.root_gb | 17:39 |
| mriedem | *sure | 17:39 |
| * mdbooth has a horrible idea he's touched that before | 17:39 | |
| mdbooth | I think there might have been some code Jenga involved. | 17:40 |
| jaypipes | cfriesen: ok, now I'm confused... I thought "the VM's I/O threads" and "the VM's vCPU threads" were the same thing :( | 17:40 |
| mriedem | mdbooth: found it | 17:43 |
| cfriesen | jaypipes: you have emulator threads, IO threads, and vCPU threads. | 17:43 |
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| mriedem | mdbooth: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/utils.py#L989 | 17:43 |
| jaypipes | cfriesen: oh? is this something new in libvirt? | 17:43 |
| mriedem | mdbooth: that says if the image min_disk is not set, or 0, just store it as the flavor root disk in the instance system_metadata, which we then use later to build the image meta for the snapshot | 17:44 |
| cfriesen | jaypipes: no. if you're just running pure userspace code in the guest then there's no work for the IO threads. they're used for reading from virtual disk and such | 17:44 |
| dansmith | jaypipes: no :) | 17:44 |
| mdbooth | mriedem: Yep, I think that's it. | 17:44 |
| mdbooth | mriedem: I have a suspicion that at some point in the past it was really hard to change min_disk due to assumptions about it dotted around the code. | 17:45 |
| jaypipes | cfriesen, dansmith: I've always just referred to the qemu-kvm processes that perform work for a guest as "I/O threads".. :( | 17:45 |
| jaypipes | oops. | 17:45 |
| dansmith | jaypipes: nay | 17:45 |
| cfriesen | how does placement deal with the difference between "shared" vcpus and "dedicated" vcpus? | 17:45 |
| jaypipes | cfriesen: it doesn't. and it won't. | 17:45 |
| mdbooth | Although my grepping suggests it's no longer misused. | 17:46 |
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| mriedem | mdbooth: it doesn't explain why it uses the flavor root_gb https://review.openstack.org/#/c/43782/ | 17:46 |
| cfriesen | jaypipes: so how does it deal with a host that has X pCPUs, which lets it run X dedicated vCPUs or X*cpu_allocation_ratio shared vCPUs? | 17:46 |
| jaypipes | cfriesen: it doesn't. | 17:46 |
| cfriesen | okay, so do we not track cpu usage in placement? | 17:47 |
| jaypipes | cfriesen: we do not track cpu pinning or numa topology in placement, no. | 17:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova master: compute: Cleans up allocations after failed resize https://review.openstack.org/543971 | 17:47 |
| jaypipes | cfriesen: all of that is done in the highly-coupled NUMA topology stuff in nova/virt/hardware.py and the NUMATopologyFilter. | 17:47 |
| mriedem | mdbooth: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1039662 | 17:47 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1039662 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Snapshot queries original image which could be gone" [Medium,Fix released] | 17:47 |
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| mriedem | mdbooth: so yeah, i don't have any clue here why nova decided that if min_disk isn't set, we should set it to the flavor root_gb | 17:48 |
| claudiub | mriedem: if you're feeling generous with the reviews, can you take a look at the autospec stuff? :D https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bug/1735588+(status:open+OR+status:merged)+project:openstack/nova | 17:48 |
| jaypipes | cfriesen: also, allocation ratio isn't considered in any CPU pinning scenarios at all. | 17:48 |
| mriedem | claudiub: i'm not that generous | 17:48 |
| cfriesen | jaypipes: okay, so if you use up all the pCPUs running dedicated vCPUs placement will still think there are vcpus available? | 17:48 |
| jaypipes | cfriesen: it's an entirely different system of accounting that uses the vcpu_pin_set CONF option. | 17:48 |
| mdbooth | mriedem: Sounds like the right place to fix it to me. | 17:48 |
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| jaypipes | cfriesen: it was an entirely different system of accounting that was added in the hardware.py module and has ZERO to do with how any other resources are tracked in Nova. | 17:49 |
| claudiub | mriedem: then, if I may abuse your not that generous-ness, can you take a look at the autospec stuff? :D | 17:49 |
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| cfriesen | jaypipes: in the context of the "shared/dedicated on one host", I just added some comments. If we're going to allow both on one host then I think it would make sense to have the usage numbers ("vcpus_used" in "nova hypervisor-show" for example) accurately reflect what's on the system. | 17:54 |
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| jaypipes | cfriesen: yeah, I saw your comments. this is definitely something to talk about next week... | 17:54 |
| jaypipes | cfriesen: will you be there? | 17:55 |
| cfriesen | yep, starting monday afternoon | 17:55 |
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| jaypipes | cfriesen: also, keep in mind vcpus_used has absolutely nothing to do with pCPUs. | 17:55 |
| mriedem | umm wtf - flavor doesn't show up in the server response? http://paste.openstack.org/show/682314/ | 17:55 |
| jaypipes | cfriesen: ne'er the two shall meet. ;) | 17:55 |
| jaypipes | mriedem: lol. | 17:56 |
| mriedem | oh i bet i know what it is, | 17:56 |
| mriedem | osc can't handle microversion>=2.47 responses | 17:56 |
| mriedem | where the flavor is a dict instead of a string | 17:56 |
| jaypipes | mriedem: an awkward dict? | 17:56 |
| cfriesen | jaypipes: hypervisor-show has "vcpus" and "vcpus_used". in our case we made it such that "vcpus" is len(vcpu_pin_set). This makes it easy to see how "full" your hypervisor is. | 17:57 |
| mriedem | yup http://paste.openstack.org/show/682315/ | 17:57 |
| jaypipes | cfriesen: that is an abuse. | 17:57 |
| jaypipes | cfriesen: and completely incorrect :) | 17:57 |
| mriedem | cfriesen: since you delt it, maybe you'd like to fix this https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstackclient/+bug/1751104 | 17:58 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1751104 in python-openstackclient "openstack server show with --os-compute-api-version >= 2.47 doesn't show the flavor" [Undecided,New] | 17:58 |
| cfriesen | ooo, fun | 17:59 |
| cfriesen | yah, I think I can take that. | 18:00 |
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| mriedem | mdbooth: i think removing that would be wrong, and it's likely there for non-volume-backed instances anyway (like everything in nova) | 18:02 |
| mriedem | mdbooth: i created a 20gb flavor instance from the devstack cirros image which has min_disk=0, and the resulting snapshot has min_disk=20 to match the flavor root_gb | 18:02 |
| mdbooth | Right. So the 20GB restriction here should be because that's how many bits are physically required, which is represented in 'size'. | 18:03 |
| mdbooth | IMHO min_disk should still be unset. | 18:03 |
| mriedem | for the volume-backed snapshot you mean? | 18:04 |
| mriedem | i.e. exactly what this patch is doing? | 18:04 |
| mdbooth | Yeah. | 18:04 |
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| mdbooth | That patch is arbitrarily popping min_disk out of image metadata. | 18:05 |
| mdbooth | I don't think it should have been in there in the first place. | 18:05 |
| mdbooth | min_disk is analogous to min_ram here | 18:05 |
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| mriedem | mdbooth: i don't really agree, | 18:09 |
| mriedem | for a volume-backed instance, the disk is what matters (or doesn't) | 18:09 |
| mriedem | if i have a 20gb flavor instance and snapshot it to get a 20gb image, then the image should say that you need a flavor of a minimum of 20gb to boot an instance with that image, right? | 18:10 |
| mriedem | but that's not true with a volume, since the flavor.root_gb isn't used for the volume | 18:10 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: min_disk should be the size of the volume in that case when you snapshot I think | 18:14 |
| dansmith | flavor.root_gb if ephemeral | 18:14 |
| mriedem | dansmith: that's what i originally asked in the patch | 18:14 |
| mriedem | rather than pop off min_disk, | 18:14 |
| mriedem | why not just set it to root_bdm.size | 18:14 |
| mriedem | good point though | 18:15 |
| dansmith | I haven't been following the discussion or the patch really, but .. yeah | 18:15 |
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| mdbooth | dansmith: That's size | 18:16 |
| mdbooth | size != min_disk | 18:16 |
| mdbooth | Size can be expanded, min_disk is what it is | 18:17 |
| mriedem | another good point, i was combining those image attrs in my head | 18:17 |
| cfriesen | do I need to do something special for "nova get-serial-console" to support the socat console used by ironic? | 18:18 |
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| mriedem | check the ironic docs | 18:19 |
| mriedem | https://docs.openstack.org/ironic/pike/admin/console.html | 18:19 |
| mriedem | cfriesen: man that google search was hard... | 18:19 |
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| cfriesen | the "ironic node-get-console" command is working and gives a URL, but "nova get-serial-console" returns an error. | 18:22 |
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| melwitt | I'm off to the airport o/ seeya at the PTG | 18:32 |
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| mriedem | lyarwood: if you're around still, i'm going to be going through this pike backport series which is pretty important, starting at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/546218/ | 18:36 |
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| mriedem | mnaser: wondering about some missing compute api unit tests in this pike backport https://review.openstack.org/#/c/546221/4 | 18:47 |
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| efried | jaypipes: Do you want me to remove "in the Traits database" everywhere or just that one spot? | 18:48 |
| efried | jaypipes: E.g. in the reno | 18:48 |
| jaypipes | efried: everywhere. that's just implementation detail that isn't relevant. | 18:49 |
| mriedem | heh, i can see ops freaking out now | 18:49 |
| efried | ight | 18:49 |
| mriedem | "nova added *another* database?!" | 18:49 |
| jaypipes | right. | 18:49 |
| mnaser | mriedem: thank you for reviewing the patches meticulously. i made sure to leave the conflicts because i don't trust my git conflict resolution stuff :< | 18:50 |
| mnaser | ill update it now | 18:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: rp: GET /resource_providers?required=<traits> https://review.openstack.org/546837 | 18:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: Make _get_sharing_providers more efficient https://review.openstack.org/547008 | 18:51 |
| efried | edleafe, jaypipes: All done ^ | 18:51 |
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| edleafe | efried: thx | 18:54 |
| efried | My pleasure. | 18:54 |
| efried | Except for the part where I had to delete that sqla block | 18:54 |
| efried | That was pain | 18:55 |
| efried | pure pain | 18:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mohammed Naser proposed openstack/nova stable/pike: Clean up ports and volumes when deleting ERROR instance https://review.openstack.org/546221 | 18:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Mohammed Naser proposed openstack/nova stable/pike: Add functional test for deleting BFV server with old attach flow https://review.openstack.org/546812 | 18:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Mohammed Naser proposed openstack/nova stable/pike: Ensure attachment_id always exists for block device mapping https://review.openstack.org/546275 | 18:57 |
| mnaser | mriedem: fixed + rebased stuff on top | 18:57 |
| mriedem | mnaser: i see you've mastered git review -R :) | 18:58 |
| mnaser | mriedem: yes, got to keep my +2 with a rebase :p | 18:58 |
| mnaser | cherry picking skills still need a bit more work though | 18:59 |
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| mriedem | mnaser: +2s up and down | 19:00 |
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| mnaser | mriedem: nice, bauzas mentioned he would have a look at backports when he's back on thursday :P | 19:01 |
| mriedem | bauzas: if you're still around https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bug/1750666+branch:stable/pike | 19:01 |
| mnaser | 2 seconds apart, ha | 19:01 |
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| jaypipes | efried: +2 from me on both. nice work. | 19:02 |
| efried | Thanks jaypipes | 19:02 |
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| jaypipes | lol | 19:03 |
| * efried eyeballs dansmith. Tumbleweeds drift across the dusty road. | 19:03 | |
| jaypipes | efried: dansmith is somewhere over the Atlantic I think. | 19:03 |
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| jaypipes | hehe | 19:04 |
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| gryf | don't be afraid. just increase the frequency of the shots ;) | 19:04 |
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| mriedem | cfriesen: we don't support live migration with sriov ports attached right? | 19:49 |
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| mriedem | i guess i'm thinking about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286744/ | 19:52 |
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| mriedem | jay-afk-2: this should be a simple spec re-approval https://review.openstack.org/#/c/543578/ | 19:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Add check if neutron "binding-extended" extension is available https://review.openstack.org/523548 | 20:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Add code to bind a port against a dest host during live migration https://review.openstack.org/523604 | 20:24 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: looking at the glance docs, I'm not sure I understand what you and mdbooth said earlier while I was landing.. min_disk should be the minimum size disk you can boot it on, which would be defined by the filesystem in the image | 20:34 |
| mriedem | he left a comment in that patch if that helps | 20:35 |
| dansmith | mriedem: the glance docs say --size is deprecated | 20:37 |
| dansmith | https://docs.openstack.org/python-openstackclient/pike/cli/command-objects/image.html | 20:37 |
| dansmith | "Image version 1 only." | 20:37 |
| mriedem | ah | 20:38 |
| mriedem | didn't realize that | 20:38 |
| dansmith | what I don't understand from what he said, is that if you boot something that was min_disk=10 and even size=10, | 20:38 |
| dansmith | then you inflate that into a 20gb flavor and snapshot it, | 20:38 |
| dansmith | your min_disk is 20g now | 20:38 |
| dansmith | unless there's some other meaning for that that I don't understand | 20:38 |
| mriedem | wtf the glance v2 API says that size is in the response, and not deprecated https://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/image/v2/index.html#show-image-details | 20:38 |
| dansmith | see, that says the size is the "size of the image data" | 20:39 |
| dansmith | which may be smaller than the size of the disk you expect to have | 20:39 |
| dansmith | if you have something like qcow2 | 20:39 |
| mriedem | ok i'm asking rosmaita if size is a thing in v2 | 20:40 |
| mriedem | or what | 20:40 |
| dansmith | I mean, it's not overly verbose about it I guess, but.. | 20:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Extending delete_cell --force to delete instance_mappings https://review.openstack.org/540073 | 20:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Functional test: evacuate with no compute https://review.openstack.org/498482 | 20:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Clarify `resources` query param for /r_p and /a_c https://review.openstack.org/547065 | 20:58 |
| dansmith | efried: what did you want to have a shootout over? | 21:01 |
| efried | dansmith: Not a shootout. I was hearkening back to the chaps conversation. I was just looking for a review on placement API feature: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/546837/ | 21:02 |
| dansmith | efried: jebus, don't you think you have had your fair share of core time today? | 21:02 |
| * dansmith turns his assless chaps towards efried | 21:03 | |
| efried | dansmith: Since you *just* approved the spec earlier, I figured you would want to get the code reviewed before it all falls out of your old, old brain. | 21:03 |
| dansmith | efried: oh, I see, so you're really doing me a favor, I see | 21:03 |
| * efried still sucks at this "insulting dansmith to get him to do stuff" thing. | 21:03 | |
| efried | dansmith: Exactly. | 21:03 |
| efried | You're welcome. | 21:04 |
| dansmith | so really I should be thanking you | 21:04 |
| efried | :) | 21:04 |
| * dansmith wonders how this happens | 21:04 | |
| cfriesen | mriedem: correct, no live migration with sriov ports attached. | 21:05 |
| cfriesen | are we wanting to go anywhere with cold migration support for LVM? | 21:06 |
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| mriedem | efried: i think you should have alex_xu review that | 21:11 |
| mriedem | given he wrote the traits support in the allocation candidates API | 21:11 |
| mriedem | he should be back to the work grind now | 21:11 |
| efried | mriedem: Sure, sounds good. | 21:12 |
| mriedem | cfriesen: doesn't matter to me | 21:12 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: looks fairly straightforward to me | 21:13 |
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| dansmith | the biggest question I'd have is over the sql stuff, but jay specifically made his mark on that bit | 21:14 |
| mriedem | nit in the release note, but could be cleaned up on top | 21:17 |
| mriedem | +1 | 21:18 |
| dansmith | efried: if you wanna update that nit I'll throw my +2 on there and we can try to get alex_xu to look during his day | 21:22 |
| efried | dansmith: Roger that. Picking nit... | 21:23 |
| dansmith | but it looks pretty good to me | 21:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: rp: GET /resource_providers?required=<traits> https://review.openstack.org/546837 | 21:24 |
| efried | dansmith, mriedem: Hecho ^ | 21:24 |
| dansmith | establadajo ^ | 21:25 |
| efried | dansmith: Thanks. | 21:26 |
| efried | I mean, you're welcome. | 21:26 |
| dansmith | heh | 21:26 |
| * dansmith can't believe nobody is going to call him on his spanish | 21:27 | |
| efried | Spanish? That's Esperanto. | 21:28 |
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| efried | Oh, shit, it actually is | 21:30 |
| dansmith | what? can't be, I just made it up | 21:31 |
| efried | https://translate.google.com/#eo/en/establadajo | 21:31 |
| dansmith | damn, I must be a sevant or something | 21:31 |
| efried | Note that Esperanto was also "just made up" by people. | 21:31 |
| dansmith | *savant | 21:31 |
| dansmith | haha | 21:31 |
| efried | It didn't come about like any other normal languages. | 21:31 |
| * dansmith knows nothing about it | 21:32 | |
| efried | Was supposed to be a simple language that anyone could learn, and therefore become the universal lingua franca of the world. | 21:32 |
| efried | But the creators effed it up | 21:32 |
| efried | Like, the first thing you should do is make sure there aren't any goofy exceptions in spelling and grammar and stuff. | 21:33 |
| * dansmith wikis that pedia | 21:33 | |
| efried | But they totally brought that kind of garbage in from their native languages, which I think were Portuguese and English. | 21:33 |
| efried | For that reason and/or others, it never caught on. | 21:33 |
| efried | That's my understanding anyway. | 21:33 |
| * efried consults the wikipedia oracle too... | 21:34 | |
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| efried | This article was clearly written by an advocate/evangelist, not an impartial researcher. | 21:35 |
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| dansmith | heh | 21:37 |
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| efried | Okay kids, I'm out til Dublin. See some of y'all there! | 21:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Add vif info to migration object https://review.openstack.org/515423 | 22:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: WIP stub out changes for multi port bindings https://review.openstack.org/522537 | 22:00 |
| mriedem | sean-k-mooney: finally got this series all lined up and rebased, and i think the conductor changes are mostly done ^ | 22:00 |
| mriedem | likely need to split that into virt drivers > compute manager changes > conductor at the end | 22:00 |
| mriedem | since conductor turns it all on | 22:00 |
| mriedem | for the new flow | 22:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: WIP stub out changes for multi port bindings https://review.openstack.org/522537 | 22:03 |
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| dansmith | vif info on migration object huh? | 22:05 |
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| mriedem | migratedata | 22:06 |
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| dansmith | ah | 22:11 |
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| dansmith | subject says migration | 22:11 |
| mriedem | dansmith: if you're looking for a good time https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bug/1750666+status:open+branch:stable/pike | 22:15 |
| mriedem | all need a final +2 | 22:15 |
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| dansmith | gaahd | 22:15 |
| mriedem | well sylvain ran off and never reviewed those | 22:15 |
| mriedem | so tag you're it | 22:15 |
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| dansmith | hmm, cinder failure on the cinder-related patch... | 22:25 |
| dansmith | you checked it to confirm it's unrelated? | 22:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova-specs master: Re-propose use Neutron's new port binding API https://review.openstack.org/543578 | 22:29 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: yeah it's a cinder api consistency group snapshot test which is nowhere related to nova http://logs.openstack.org/75/546275/4/check/tempest-full/a6efea1/job-output.txt.gz#_2018-02-22_20_19_14_919584 | 22:33 |
| dansmith | yeah, alright | 22:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matthew Edmonds proposed openstack/nova master: make PowerVM capabilities explicit https://review.openstack.org/547169 | 23:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matthew Edmonds proposed openstack/nova master: make PowerVM capabilities explicit https://review.openstack.org/547169 | 23:53 |
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