Thursday, 2017-11-16

eanderssonThis is with overcommit 1.5 on memory, which is fine in most cases for us00:00
mriedemreserved_host_memory_mb00:00
mriedem^00:00
eanderssonThe problem is that if one or two VMs are using all their memory00:00
eanderssonthe overcommit ratio won00:00
eanderssonwon't work00:00
mriedemthe reserved_host_memory_mb config option is used to tell placement that there is reserved space on a compute that can't be claimed by nova00:00
mriedemand the scheduler will take that into account00:00
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eanderssonLets say you have 10GB memory, and 4 VMs with 5GB each and overcommit set to 2x (total 20GB)00:01
eanderssonor even better 12GB memory, 4 VMs with 5GB etc and reserved_host_memory_mb set to 2GB00:02
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eanderssonIf three of those VMs are actually using 10GB in total00:02
eanderssonThe forth VM will fail to be created00:02
eanderssonbut the scheduler will think that there is room on the VM, as it thinks the compute has 20+2GB memory00:03
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mriedemhave you tried to recreate that in ocata?00:04
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mriedemotherwise i'm going to have to phone a friend (jaypipes)00:04
eanderssonI haven't yet00:04
eanderssontbh it's not a big deal, but it's the issue causing the duplicate ips00:05
eandersson(so fixing the dup ips and worst case it will reschedule)00:05
mriedemok, well, reschedules is a big deal we're trying to kill off00:05
mriedemand still support reschedules with cells v200:05
mriedemso we're assuming that reschedules shouldn't happen due to failed claims00:05
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eanderssonI'll see if I can test it in Ocata or Pike.00:05
mriedemat least now that in pike with the filter scheduler we 'claim' in the scheduler rather than the compute00:05
mriedemtry it with pike00:06
mriedempike is the scheduler change to allocate resources in the scheduler rather than compute00:06
mriedemusing placement with the filter scheduler00:06
eanderssonOnly tested it in Mitaka so far, but would motivate us to upgrade sooner :D00:06
mriedemif things still don't work and yo'ure hitting reschedules, that would be very good to know00:06
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openstackgerritEric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Use update_inventory from the resource tracker  https://review.openstack.org/52024600:10
efriedjaypipes And here's where I'm going with it ^00:10
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openstackgerritHongbin Lu proposed openstack/nova-specs master: [WIP] Choose default network on ambiguity  https://review.openstack.org/52024700:12
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Always deallocate networking before reschedule if using Neutron  https://review.openstack.org/52024800:26
mriedemeandersson: here you go ^00:26
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: Fix missing metavar in aggregate-update  https://review.openstack.org/51248500:26
openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Set the 'Upgrade impact' subsection as optional  https://review.openstack.org/51722300:27
openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Create specs directory for Rocky  https://review.openstack.org/51410100:27
openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Fix missing marker functions  https://review.openstack.org/51457900:27
openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Fix 500 error while passing 4-byte unicode data  https://review.openstack.org/40751400:27
openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Update document related to host aggregate  https://review.openstack.org/51449900:28
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alex_xugmann: cleanup few things https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:cleanup_extension01:09
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alex_xugmann: I rememer we have a blueprint for those cleanup, do you have the link?01:09
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gmannalex_xu: yea, you can use this https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/api-extensions-merge-queens01:21
alex_xugmann: thanks01:21
gmannalex_xu: i think i created etherpad also for that, may be forgot to ping you.01:21
gmannlet me search01:21
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gmannalex_xu: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/api-extensions-merge-queens01:21
gmannto track the work01:21
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova master: Add instance action record for attach/detach interface  https://review.openstack.org/51219001:36
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova master: Add instance action record for attach/detach/swap volumes  https://review.openstack.org/51720502:16
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova stable/newton: Set group_members when converting to legacy request spec  https://review.openstack.org/51786802:26
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova stable/newton: Pass requested_destination in filter_properties  https://review.openstack.org/51611902:51
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova stable/newton: Fix non-parameterized service id in hypervisors sample tests  https://review.openstack.org/51976302:51
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova stable/newton: Validate new image via scheduler during rebuild  https://review.openstack.org/51968402:51
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova stable/newton: Add security release note for OSSA-2017-005  https://review.openstack.org/51975502:51
mriedemtonyb: if you're around i just had to rebase those ^02:51
mriedemjust need a re-approve on the stack02:51
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openstackgerritTony Breeds proposed openstack/nova stable/newton: Pass requested_destination in filter_properties  https://review.openstack.org/51611902:57
openstackgerritTony Breeds proposed openstack/nova stable/newton: Fix non-parameterized service id in hypervisors sample tests  https://review.openstack.org/51976302:57
openstackgerritTony Breeds proposed openstack/nova stable/newton: Validate new image via scheduler during rebuild  https://review.openstack.org/51968402:57
openstackgerritTony Breeds proposed openstack/nova stable/newton: Add security release note for OSSA-2017-005  https://review.openstack.org/51975502:57
tonybmriedem: It seems I was off doign the same thing :(02:58
mriedem:( https://review.openstack.org/#/c/516119/5..6/nova/tests/unit/objects/test_request_spec.py02:59
mriedemplus you didn't drop the depends-on02:59
mriedemshould i just push mine again?02:59
mriedemlooks like i can't, no new changes03:00
openstackgerritTony Breeds proposed openstack/nova stable/newton: Pass requested_destination in filter_properties  https://review.openstack.org/51611903:01
openstackgerritTony Breeds proposed openstack/nova stable/newton: Fix non-parameterized service id in hypervisors sample tests  https://review.openstack.org/51976303:01
openstackgerritTony Breeds proposed openstack/nova stable/newton: Validate new image via scheduler during rebuild  https://review.openstack.org/51968403:01
openstackgerritTony Breeds proposed openstack/nova stable/newton: Add security release note for OSSA-2017-005  https://review.openstack.org/51975503:01
tonybmriedem: Fixed my messup and I switch the Depends-On to the merged review which should be harmless03:02
mriedemyeah ok03:03
mriedemyou going to re-approve or should i?03:03
tonybeither or03:03
mriedemi will do it03:03
tonybI was worried about it given I resolved a merge conflict but given yours was the same I'm happy now03:03
tonybcool.03:04
mriedemdone03:05
tonyb\/o03:05
mriedemand now i must go - laura is getting irritated because this is cutting into our 'stranger things' time03:05
tonybOh I seem to have a broken neck03:05
tonyb:(03:05
tonybhehe okay enjoy03:05
openstackgerritHuan Xie proposed openstack/nova master: XenAPI: Don't use nicira-iface-id for XenServer VIF  https://review.openstack.org/45164103:07
takashinmriedem: Hi03:07
takashinmriedem: The condition under which py27 job is executed is wrong in nova-specs.03:08
takashinmriedem: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/508164/ has been merged.03:09
takashinmriedem: But it causes the following error.03:10
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tonybtakashin: does it pass locally?03:10
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takashintonyb: does it mean py27 job for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/508164/ ?03:11
openstackgerritHuan Xie proposed openstack/nova master: [WIP] XenAPI: Don't use nicira-iface-id for XenServer VIF  https://review.openstack.org/45164103:11
takashinfollowing error is: AssertionError: False is not true : specs/queens/approved/symmetric-allocations.rst:61: Line limited to a maximum of 79 characters.03:11
tonybtakashin: Yes if you run tox -repy27 on a clean nova-specs does it work?03:12
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tonybtakashin: interesting, I didn't see that in the gate03:13
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takashintonyb: In master, there is a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/172760203:14
openstackLaunchpad bug 1727602 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "nova-specs: tests.test_titles.TestTitles.test_template fails" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Takashi NATSUME (natsume-takashi)03:14
takashintonyb: So it fails.03:14
takashintonyb: After applying my patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/517223/, "Line limited to a maximum of 79 characters." occurs.03:15
takashintonyb: because py27 job was not executed in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/508164/ .03:15
takashintonyb: So the condition under which py27 job is executed is wrong in nova-specs.03:16
takashinmriedem: Are you around?03:16
tonybtakashin: mriedem just stepped away for the evening.03:17
takashinmriedem: oh..03:17
takashintonyb: oh..03:17
tonybtakashin: It looks like we'll need a zuul change to always update py27?03:18
tonybsorry 'run' not 'update'03:18
takashintonyb: py27 includes template check. So it should be executed when spec(*.rst) was added or updated.03:19
takashintonyb: So it should be executed when spec(*.rst) is added or updated.03:20
tonybtakashin: That sounds correct to me03:20
takashintonyb: The condition should be amended.03:20
tonybtakashin: It seems liek py27 is partially a linter03:20
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova master: Add microversion to allow setting flavor description  https://review.openstack.org/51521303:21
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tonybtakashin: I'm sorry I can't see anything that is causeing the py27 jobs to be skipped :(03:24
takashintonyb: Thank you. I will send an e-mail to openstack-dev mailing list.03:24
tonybtakashin: okay, Thanks03:24
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tonybtakashin: It may be that it was a by-product of the zuul v2 -> v3 transition and it isn't skiped anymore03:31
openstackgerritJianghua Wang proposed openstack/nova master: XenAPI: provide vGPU inventory in compute node  https://review.openstack.org/51621703:32
openstackgerritJianghua Wang proposed openstack/nova master: XenAPI: create vGPU for instance  https://review.openstack.org/51689903:32
tonybtakashin: can you propose a fix for the line length issue (perhaps it will need to be part of your 517223 change03:32
takashintonyb: okay. I will submit a patch for  the line length issue.03:33
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openstackgerritJianghua Wang proposed openstack/nova master: vgpu: add enabled white list  https://review.openstack.org/51258003:36
openstackgerritJianghua Wang proposed openstack/nova master: XenAPI: get vGPU stats from hypervisor  https://review.openstack.org/51296503:36
openstackgerritJianghua Wang proposed openstack/nova master: XenAPI: provide vGPU inventory in compute node  https://review.openstack.org/51621703:36
openstackgerritJianghua Wang proposed openstack/nova master: XenAPI: create vGPU for instance  https://review.openstack.org/51689903:36
vivsoni connector['multipath'] always set to default value mentioned in nova/conf/libvirt.py... it is not picking up the value from nova.conf's 'libvirt' section 'volume_use_multipath'03:39
vivsoni Have raised launchpad defect https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/172392803:39
openstackLaunchpad bug 1723928 in os-brick "In case of volume_use_multipath=True, Nova unable to fetch CONF.libvirt.volume_use_multipath value from nova.conf" [Undecided,New]03:39
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Fix "Line limited to a maximum of 79 characters"  https://review.openstack.org/52028103:44
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vivsoniAny ref link for nova and os-brick interaction04:22
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vivsoniwhile attaching cinder volume to nova instance04:22
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova stable/newton: Correct log message when removing a security group  https://review.openstack.org/51958605:13
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: List/show all server migration types (1/2)  https://review.openstack.org/43060806:24
openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Enable cold migration with target host(1/2)  https://review.openstack.org/40895506:24
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openstackgerritNaichuan Sun proposed openstack/nova master: XenAPI: get vGPU stats from hypervisor  https://review.openstack.org/51296506:39
openstackgerritNaichuan Sun proposed openstack/nova master: XenAPI: provide vGPU inventory in compute node  https://review.openstack.org/51621706:39
openstackgerritNaichuan Sun proposed openstack/nova master: XenAPI: create vGPU for instance  https://review.openstack.org/51689906:39
openstackgerritNaichuan Sun proposed openstack/nova master: xenapi(N-R-P): Add API to support vgpu resource provider create  https://review.openstack.org/52031306:39
openstackgerritNguyen Van Trung proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Add linters test to run spec validation and remove py27  https://review.openstack.org/51956106:41
openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova stable/newton: Pass requested_destination in filter_properties  https://review.openstack.org/51611906:42
openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova stable/newton: Fix non-parameterized service id in hypervisors sample tests  https://review.openstack.org/51976306:42
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openstackgerritNaichuan Sun proposed openstack/nova master: xenapi(N-R-P): Add API to support vgpu resource provider create  https://review.openstack.org/52031306:54
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Enable cold migration with target host(2/2)  https://review.openstack.org/40896407:23
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openstackgerritAlex Xu proposed openstack/nova master: placement: avoid multiple join in _get_all_with_shared  https://review.openstack.org/51908107:43
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openstackgerritNaichuan Sun proposed openstack/nova master: xenapi(N-R-P): Add API to support vgpu resource provider create  https://review.openstack.org/52031307:48
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openstackgerritYikun Jiang proposed openstack/nova master: [WIP] Add pagination and changes-since for instance-actions  https://review.openstack.org/32632607:57
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openstackgerritNaichuan Sun proposed openstack/nova master: vgpu: add enabled white list  https://review.openstack.org/51258008:01
openstackgerritNaichuan Sun proposed openstack/nova master: XenAPI: get vGPU stats from hypervisor  https://review.openstack.org/51296508:01
openstackgerritNaichuan Sun proposed openstack/nova master: XenAPI: provide vGPU inventory in compute node  https://review.openstack.org/51621708:01
openstackgerritNaichuan Sun proposed openstack/nova master: XenAPI: create vGPU for instance  https://review.openstack.org/51689908:01
openstackgerritNaichuan Sun proposed openstack/nova master: xenapi(N-R-P): Add API to support vgpu resource provider create  https://review.openstack.org/52031308:01
openstackgerritNguyen Van Trung proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Add validation to improve pep8 check for designate project  https://review.openstack.org/51956108:01
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openstackgerritMarco Chiappero proposed openstack/nova master: Add a communication channel for power management support  https://review.openstack.org/51281508:10
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openstackgerritMarco Chiappero proposed openstack/nova master: Add a communication channel for power management support  https://review.openstack.org/51281508:16
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openstackgerritHuan Xie proposed openstack/nova master: XenAPI: Don't use nicira-iface-id for XenServer VIF  https://review.openstack.org/45164108:27
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bhujayHello everybody , badly stuck up in a problem . Would be grateful if any one can spend a few minutes to suggest some hints08:28
bhujayI have a pike set up where VM is not able to take ip from tenant net but works well with provider net . Here is  the detail https://gist.github.com/BhujayKumarBhatta/584bda14710233d7242329d88760605308:28
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: List/show all server migration types (2/2)  https://review.openstack.org/45948308:50
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openstackgerritNguyen Van Trung proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Add validation to improve pep8 check for designate project  https://review.openstack.org/51956108:55
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openstackgerritAlex Xu proposed openstack/nova master: Remove the objects which related to the old v2 API implementation  https://review.openstack.org/51999709:00
openstackgerritAlex Xu proposed openstack/nova master: Remove the objects for describing the extension for v2.1 API  https://review.openstack.org/51999809:00
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openstackgerritAlex Xu proposed openstack/nova master: Remove the objects which related to the old v2 API implementation  https://review.openstack.org/51999709:02
openstackgerritAlex Xu proposed openstack/nova master: Remove the objects for describing the extension for v2.1 API  https://review.openstack.org/51999809:02
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openstackgerritNguyen Van Trung proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Add validation to improve pep8 check for nova-specs project  https://review.openstack.org/51956109:09
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openstackgerritNaichuan Sun proposed openstack/nova master: xenapi(N-R-P): Add API to support vgpu resource provider create  https://review.openstack.org/52031309:18
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openstackgerritGhanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova master: Merge flavor extensions controller code  https://review.openstack.org/51610409:36
openstackgerritJianghua Wang proposed openstack/nova master: XenAPI: create vGPU for instance  https://review.openstack.org/51689909:37
openstackgerritNaichuan Sun proposed openstack/nova master: xenapi(N-R-P): Add API to support vgpu resource provider create  https://review.openstack.org/52031309:38
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Guest6542Hi,Alex alex_xu. Could you help to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/512580/? It need a workflow.09:42
Guest6542Thank you very much09:43
openstackgerritYikun Jiang proposed openstack/nova master: [WIP] Add pagination and changes-since for instance-actions  https://review.openstack.org/32632609:43
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gibihi cores, there are easy documentation patches that needs a second core: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/520193 and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/51626409:57
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openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Test resource allocation during soft delete  https://review.openstack.org/49515910:02
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openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova master: hyperv: Cleans up live migration Planned VM  https://review.openstack.org/47894310:05
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openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Test alloc_cands with indirectly sharing RPs  https://review.openstack.org/51960110:21
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openstackgerritNaichuan Sun proposed openstack/nova master: vgpu: add enabled white list  https://review.openstack.org/51258010:29
openstackgerritNaichuan Sun proposed openstack/nova master: XenAPI: get vGPU stats from hypervisor  https://review.openstack.org/51296510:29
openstackgerritNaichuan Sun proposed openstack/nova master: XenAPI: provide vGPU inventory in compute node  https://review.openstack.org/51621710:29
openstackgerritNaichuan Sun proposed openstack/nova master: XenAPI: create vGPU for instance  https://review.openstack.org/51689910:29
openstackgerritNaichuan Sun proposed openstack/nova master: xenapi(N-R-P): Add API to support vgpu resource provider create  https://review.openstack.org/52031310:29
openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova master: doc: Adds Hyper-V PCI passthrough details  https://review.openstack.org/51046710:33
openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova master: doc: fix link to creating unit tests in contributor guide  https://review.openstack.org/51948210:35
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openstackgerrityuanyue proposed openstack/nova master: Add log in conductor to mark host for instance creation  https://review.openstack.org/52036910:36
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openstackgerritJianghua Wang proposed openstack/nova master: XenAPI: create vGPU for instance  https://review.openstack.org/51689910:51
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/nova master: DNM - testing new releasenotes job  https://review.openstack.org/52037310:53
openstackgerritGhanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova master: Merge flavor extensions controller code  https://review.openstack.org/51610410:54
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/nova master: DNM - testing new releasenotes job  https://review.openstack.org/52037310:59
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/nova master: Remove setting of version/release from releasenotes  https://review.openstack.org/52037311:03
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova master: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/52046111:16
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/os-traits master: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/52047711:20
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/os-vif master: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/52047811:20
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/52051611:25
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: List/show all server migration types (2/2)  https://review.openstack.org/45948311:45
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openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Fix the usage of instance.snapshot notification sample  https://review.openstack.org/52057912:58
gibihere is a simple doc fix if somebody wants an easy to review patch to look at ^^12:59
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efriedgibi done13:04
gibiefried: thanks :)13:04
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openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Fix the usage of instance.snapshot notification sample  https://review.openstack.org/52057913:08
gibiefried: fixed your concerns ^^13:09
efriedgibi Phew!13:09
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gibiefried: do you have local chages to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/518633/ ? jaypipes left comments in the parent commit I would like to fix13:18
efried...13:18
efriedgibi No, I don't have local changes there, fire away!13:18
efriedgibi Thanks for checking.13:18
efriedgibi And feel free to fix that commit too if you like :)13:18
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gibiefried: let's see if I can do the isolation jaypipes asked for there13:20
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efriedgibi Is there a reason you're not wielding your +2 powers on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/377138/ ?13:29
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jianghuaw_cores, could anyone help to look at this patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/51258013:30
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jianghuaw_Jaypipes gave +2 after 3 weeks ago. But we need another core on it:-)13:30
gibiefried: it the lack of SQL knowledge prevents me to be sure about the patch.13:30
efriedgibi Okay.13:30
gibiefried: but I feel that I cannot avoid digging into SQL at some point as placement is full of it13:31
fallenourgetting an issue with metadata proxy on my nova deployments for a build. The error is for cloud.init for ...ooo .... too early in the morning, sorry guys. I saw "development" as "Deployment". Monster not working yet.13:31
efriedHah, you said it gibi!  Placement is FULL OF IT.13:31
efriedgibi Can you look at the patch jianghuaw_ mentioned?  It's fairly straightforward.13:32
fallenourgibi: efried I just wish it would stop misrepresenting system resources. Shows our current deployments as 1.5% util, when 20% is used. Ticking time bomb is what it is13:32
gibiefried, jianghuaw_: I opened it now I will try to check it before end of today13:32
jianghuaw_efried, gibi: thanks:-)13:33
efriedfallenour Yeah, I think you want to use the #openstack channel for this question.13:34
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openstackgerritYikun Jiang proposed openstack/nova master: Add migration_get_by_uuid in db api.  https://review.openstack.org/51142113:36
openstackgerritYikun Jiang proposed openstack/nova master: Add migration db and object pagination support.  https://review.openstack.org/51490413:36
openstackgerritYikun Jiang proposed openstack/nova master: Implement query param schema for migration index  https://review.openstack.org/51864413:36
fallenourQuick relevant dev question though, currently working with nova to build a self healing openstack, whats the best way recommended for integrating into the oslo system for custom rpc messages?13:36
openstackgerritYikun Jiang proposed openstack/nova master: Extract SortContext/SortWrapper of instance_list into utils  https://review.openstack.org/51887113:36
openstackgerritYikun Jiang proposed openstack/nova master: Add cross cell sort support for get_migrations  https://review.openstack.org/51727313:36
openstackgerritYikun Jiang proposed openstack/nova master: Add pagination and Changes-since filter support for os-migrations.  https://review.openstack.org/33040613:36
gibifallenour: do you mean you would like to use oslo.messaging to send/receive messages ?13:37
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bauzasjianghuaw_: I'd love to look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/512580 and relate it with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/514763/13:38
fallenourgibi: very much so13:38
bauzass/relate/compare13:38
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fallenourgibi: btw, nova is absolutely mind shatteringly awesome, thanks for all the incredible work you guys do.13:39
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jianghuaw_bauzas, thanks13:40
gibifallenour: there is a very simple messing ending example in vitrage: https://github.com/openstack/vitrage/blob/master/vitrage/datasources/zabbix/auxiliary/zabbix_vitrage.py I used this to learn how to send arbitrary stuff13:40
gibis/messing ending/message sending/.13:41
fallenourgibi: If I wanted to study the messages, especially the ones generated by nova to the cloud controller, where would I go to read those/ how would i read those?13:41
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gibifallenour: I think you can turn on logging in rabbit (or whatever message queue your deployment uses) But also I think oslo.messaging logs the message if on debug level13:43
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openstackgerritMaciej Jozefczyk proposed openstack/nova master: Update resources once in update_available_resource  https://review.openstack.org/52002413:51
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mriedemnova meeting happening in #openstack-meeting14:01
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openstackgerritElod Illes proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Transform scheduler.select_destinations notification  https://review.openstack.org/50850614:11
openstackgerritJackie Truong proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: Microversion 2.56 - Add trusted_image_certificates  https://review.openstack.org/50039614:12
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openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova master: hyper-v: Do not allow instances with pinned CPUs to spawn  https://review.openstack.org/42411614:19
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mriedemmoshele: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/482640/ is failing tests14:20
moshelemriedem: yes it need to os-brick changes14:20
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mriedemoh missing the actual initiator connector, yeah14:21
mriedemi see the cinder change has a -2 on it?14:21
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ArchiFleKsHi, I'm having some issue with the diskfilter scheduler, how does it work when using NFS shared storage for instances and should it be always at the end ?14:22
mriedemArchiFleKs: you can't use the DiskFilter with shared storage14:22
ArchiFleKsmriedem: neither the aggregatediskfilter ?14:23
openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova master: hyperv: Cleans up live migration Planned VM  https://review.openstack.org/47894314:23
mriedemArchiFleKs: i believe so14:23
ArchiFleKsmriedem: thanks :)14:24
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mriedembauzas: correct? ^14:24
mriedemif so, we should add a warning to the docs https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/admin/configuration/schedulers.html?highlight=diskfilter#diskfilter14:25
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mriedemi'm pretty sure DiskFilter doesn't work with shared storage pools though14:25
bauzasmriedem: well, something like that14:25
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bauzasmriedem: I need to go find my daughters tho14:25
mriedemok14:25
mriedemjaypipes: ^?14:25
bauzasArchiFleKs: I know you dude, so ping me off14:25
mriedemjohnthetubaguy: ^14:25
moshelemriedem: thanks for approving the bp14:25
tssuryajaypipes : would you know any tricks in SQL to get the resulting record list from the delete statement ?  (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/515034/4/nova/db/sqlalchemy/api.py@6591)14:26
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johnthetubaguymriedem: can I help?14:26
jaypipestssurya: there is no result from a DELETE statement. unless you're referring to the number of records deleted?14:27
jaypipesmriedem: DiskFilter only looks at local_gb_used/local_gb AFAIK14:28
openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova master: doc: Adds Hyper-V PCI passthrough details  https://review.openstack.org/51046714:28
jaypipesmriedem: which obviously isn't placement...14:28
openstackgerritHamdy Khader proposed openstack/nova master: Adding NVMEoF for libvirt driver  https://review.openstack.org/48264014:28
tssuryajaypipes : yes well we know that there is only the number of records that we get, but we were wondering if there was a way to get the records too ?14:28
jaypipestssurya: not unless you do a SELECT first, then DELETE.14:30
jaypipestssurya: in the same read-consistent transaction of course.14:30
tssuryajaypipes : we have some integrity issues with the list of records deleted and inserted during archiving, so I was looking for an efficient way to do this.14:31
tssuryajaypipes : ok! thanks :)14:31
jaypipestssurya: np :)14:31
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: [placement] Separate API schemas (usage)  https://review.openstack.org/52060314:33
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openstackgerritHamdy Khader proposed openstack/nova master: Adding NVMEoF for libvirt driver  https://review.openstack.org/48264014:40
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: [placement] Separate API schemas (trait)  https://review.openstack.org/52060514:43
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openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Test alloc_cands with one RP shared between two RPs  https://review.openstack.org/51961714:47
openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Test allocation candidates: multiple aggregates  https://review.openstack.org/51863314:47
openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Test helper: validate provider summaries  https://review.openstack.org/51898214:47
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: [placement] Separate API schemas (aggregate)  https://review.openstack.org/52060814:49
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mriedemjohnthetubaguy: jaypipes: my assertion was that the DiskFilter won't work with shared storage on the computes14:55
mriedemso shouldn't be enabled if you're using NFS, Ceph, etc14:55
johnthetubaguyits kinda useless in that case, yeah14:56
openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: [placement] Separate API schemas (resource_class)  https://review.openstack.org/52061114:56
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: [placement] Separate API schemas (inventory)  https://review.openstack.org/52061315:04
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mriedempretty simple novaclient change to add support for microversion 2.54 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/519572/15:08
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openstackgerritEd Leafe proposed openstack/nova master: Add Selection objects  https://review.openstack.org/49923915:17
openstackgerritEd Leafe proposed openstack/nova master: Refactor the code to check for sufficient hosts  https://review.openstack.org/52024215:17
openstackgerritEd Leafe proposed openstack/nova master: Return Selection objects from the scheduler driver  https://review.openstack.org/49585415:17
openstackgerritEd Leafe proposed openstack/nova master: Modify select_destinations() to return objects and alts  https://review.openstack.org/51015915:17
openstackgerritEd Leafe proposed openstack/nova master: Change RPC for select_destinations()  https://review.openstack.org/51670715:17
openstackgerritEd Leafe proposed openstack/nova master: Move the claim_resources method to scheduler utils  https://review.openstack.org/51135715:17
openstackgerritEd Leafe proposed openstack/nova master: Make conductor pass and use host_lists  https://review.openstack.org/51135815:18
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mriedemyikun: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/515640/15:21
jianghuaw_johnthetubaguy, hi John. Could you help to look at this XenAPI fix? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/514902/15:22
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jianghuaw_johnthetubaguy, I think that's a straightforward fix.15:24
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mriedemedleafe: are you going to make the changes in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/520242/ and fix the tests on the change after it? i'd like to hit those today while i'm still on the trail15:29
mriedemthe alternate hosts trail15:29
mriedemof blood15:29
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edleafemriedem: you mean the >= change?15:33
edleafeif we ever select more hosts than requested, we have much bigger problems15:34
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mriedemok so leave that,15:35
mriedembut there are the typos and unrelated change15:35
mriedemeasy fixes15:35
mriedemi figured you'd hit those while you cleanup the test failures in the next patch above15:35
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edleafemriedem: you did see that I pushed an update to the series like 20 minutes ago?15:36
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mriedemorly15:37
mriedemi didn't :)15:37
edleafe:)15:37
mriedemok, one little thing in the test15:39
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johnthetubaguyjianghuaw_: been meaning to look at that, its on my list15:42
openstackgerritEd Leafe proposed openstack/nova master: Refactor the code to check for sufficient hosts  https://review.openstack.org/52024215:43
edleafemriedem: ^ added15:43
mriedemthanks, lgtm15:44
mriedemjaypipes: bauzas: you should review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/520242/ as well15:44
edleafemriedem: the series is blocked because you (plural) wanted to verify the whole process before beginning to commit any of the series. Is it possible to get such a review so that we can begin to merge some of these lower patches?15:44
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mriedemjaypipes: bauzas: review note, this change is because the next one in the series is going to be returning Selection objects from FilterScheduler._schedule to FilterScheduler.select_destinations, where that HostState.updated = None was done, which won't work with a Selection object15:45
mriedemso ed moved that validation down into the _schedule part before we convert HostState to Selection objects15:45
jaypipesunderstood.15:46
mriedemedleafe: i'm working through the series15:46
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edleafemriedem: I understand. I'm thinking of a more high-level view of the end result to verify the approach. Each piece can be later reviewed for specific issues15:47
edleafeI'd just like to merge the lower patches to keep rebase issues to a minimum15:47
edleafeEspecially since I'll be out all next week15:47
mriedemi can't promise anything15:48
mriedembut it's good to know you'll be out next week so i don't ping you incessantly about this15:48
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mriedemthat reminds me, need to request wednesday off...15:50
cfriesenmdbooth: you around?15:51
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mdboothcfriesen: I am15:51
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jianghuaw_johnthetubaguy, thanks:-)15:53
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cfriesenmdbooth: we ran into an issue with "qemu-img convert" for a large image on a compute node consuming a lot of cache and affecting the performance of instances on that compute node.  we fixed it by adding "-t none" to have it bypass the cache.15:54
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: [ci] Use pseudo-random names for new resources  https://review.openstack.org/47977715:54
cfriesenmdbooth: do you think this is something that would be useful more generally?15:54
kashyapcfriesen: "-t" == cache?15:54
cfriesenkashyap: yes.15:55
mdboothHmm15:55
kashyapcfriesen: And you had 'writeback'?15:55
cfriesenkashyap: no, normally nova doesn't specify anything for -t so you just get the default15:55
kashyapThe default is writeback :-)15:55
kashyapIt's the QEMU default that libvirt / Nova inherit15:56
cfriesenwell, okay, but we didn't explicitly specify it.15:56
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cfriesen_disk_qcow2_to_raw() in nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py15:57
cfriesenand vice-versa15:57
mdboothkashyap: Yes, cfriesen is essentially complaining that writeback isn't what he wants.15:57
mdboothcfriesen: What impact did this have on the machine?15:58
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kashyapmdboth: I see.  In that case, I know cfriesen sometimes posts on 'qemu-devel'; so Chris if you have the perf data then post there and Cc 'qemu-block' list...15:59
efriedjaypipes Got local changes to the n-r-p series?  I'm doing a restack, and can hit Tetsuro's comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/384807/ while I'm at it.15:59
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kashyapBut yeah, I'll let him to describe the issue here15:59
jaypipesefried: nope.15:59
mdboothI'm wondering if we give instances cache=none by default15:59
efriedjaypipes ight15:59
cfriesenkashyap: mdbooth: digging up the details15:59
mdboothI thought we did?16:00
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kashyapmdbooth: Easy to check, let's examine a Gate job logs...16:00
kashyapI thought we let the default be 'writeback' as QEMU gives us; because there's a reason they settled on it as the default16:00
mdboothkashyap: Are you sure writeback is the default?16:02
mdboothwriteback is terrible.16:02
kashyapmdbooth: Yes, I just checked16:02
kashyapmdbooth: Just fire up `man qemu-system-x86` and look for 'writeback'16:02
kashyapmdbooth: And...Here's the evidence from the gate jobs:16:03
kashyaphttp://logs.openstack.org/14/407514/9/check/legacy-grenade-dsvm-neutron-multinode-live-migration/8d355c4/logs/libvirt/qemu/instance-00000019.txt.gz16:03
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cfriesenmdbooth: kashyap: from our bug notes it looks like we were actually interfering with other host processes, not the guests.  (my bad, I misremembered)    So we turned off the cache and limited it to two disk-intensive operations (glance downloads, image conversions, etc.) at a time.16:05
kashyapcfriesen: BTW, what are your guests?16:06
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kashyapAre they something super old?16:06
cfriesenkashyap: libvirt/kvm...no idea what the software in the guest was, they were customer tests16:06
bauzasmriedem: sure, will look at the change asap16:07
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mdboothcfriesen: Do you recall what the other host processes were?16:08
kashyapcfriesen: Hmm.  As a reminder to self: 'writeback' caches the writes in the host page cache, and 'none' avoids it (but it also doesn't take advantage of the host RAM, especially if you have lots of it)16:09
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openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Test allocation candidates: multiple aggregates  https://review.openstack.org/51863316:10
openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Test helper: validate provider summaries  https://review.openstack.org/51898216:10
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kashyapcfriesen: The QEMU folks remind me that, you have to explicitly mention cache mode for both source _and_ destination images.16:11
mdboothkashyap: cfriesen So, writeback is terrible and we shouldn't be using it for anything, with the possible exception of CI because we don't care about data there and it performs better.16:11
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gibiefried, jaypipes: I fixed the comments in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/518633 and in its parent16:11
cfriesenmdbooth: digging in the archives...but from what I remember it filled the cache and then used up all the available dirty pages on the system, slowing down other host "management" processes16:11
efriedgibi Thanks!16:12
mdboothI suspect, in fact, that we explicitly configure writeback in our CI16:12
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: [CLI] Fix token auth type  https://review.openstack.org/42425616:12
mriedemandreykurilin: I rebased ^ but am confused about the release note you had in there16:13
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mriedemandreykurilin: i removed it because the same release note was already in novaclient per https://review.openstack.org/#/c/425822/16:13
kashyapmdbooth: Hmm, can we make a blanket comment that it is "terrible"?  Because the Ceph folks explicitly seem to prefer 'writeback', from my recollection16:13
mdboothcfriesen: Meh. Tweaking this stuff is opening a can of worms.16:13
mdboothkashyap: Yep. writeback means something else in ceph :/16:13
kashyapmdbooth: Oh dear, yeah16:14
mdboothTo qemu's ceph driver, writeback means only to inform the ceph server that it can use writeback mode. Data is not cached locally.16:14
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kashyapHmm16:15
cfriesenmdbooth: yeah, that's why mriedem wanted me to talk to you. :)   Agreed that it's mostly an issue if you're trying to minimize the amount of RAM used by the host (to maximize how much the guests can get).16:15
mdboothIf it was affecting instance performance it would be different, because we control both of those things.16:16
mdboothIf it's just affecting random other stuff... I'm not convinced we want to go there.16:16
kashyapcfriesen: Can you confirm if were specifying the cache mode for both source & destination disk images separately?16:17
kashyap(When doing 'qemu-img convert', i.e.)16:17
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mdboothkashyap: We won't have been specifying either.16:17
andreykurilinmriedem: hi! as far as you know, novaclient can be used by 2 different way (CLI and as a python-lib). novaclient.client.Client can accept a string with a Token and a proper keystoneauth object will be constructed. This work for python-lib way. I helped to fix this in another patch (see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/419441/) and we decided to add release notes in the separate patch to merge fix asap.16:18
kashyapmdbooth: Yeah, you're right, we aren't specifying anything in Nova:16:18
kashyap    def _disk_qcow2_to_raw(path):16:18
kashyap        """Converts a qcow2 disk to raw."""16:18
kashyap        path_raw = path + '_raw'16:18
kashyap        utils.execute('qemu-img', 'convert', '-f', 'qcow2',16:18
kashyap                      '-O', 'raw', path, path_raw)16:18
cfriesenkashyap: we've been specifying just "-t" for the dest cache to avoid filling the available dirty pages.  probably using -T for the source would also make sense but we haven't done that.16:18
andreykurilinmriedem: As for CLI - the token method is still broken.16:18
mriedemandreykurilin: ah ok,16:19
kashyapcfriesen: Are you running the command manually?16:19
mriedemso in the cli fix, i removed the reno because it was causing a merge conflict16:19
cfriesenkashyap: no, we patched nova in that code you just showed16:19
mriedemandreykurilin: so that cli fix would need a separate release note, specific to the CLI and the --os-token option16:19
andreykurilinyup16:19
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kashyapcfriesen: I see, then you might want to patch Nova by specifying cache for both source _and_ dest16:20
kashyapAnd propose the patch upstream, if you have time ;-)16:20
cfriesenkashyap: I'm happy to propose the patch upstream...matt just wanted me to check with the two of you first as to whether it makes sense for the general case16:21
kashyapLet me check with the QEMU guys, too.  For the general case16:22
jaypipesgibi, efried: ok, so https://review.openstack.org/#/c/519601/ needs a rebase/fix now that efried's patch that changed the call signature of AllocationCandidates.get_by_filters() was merged.16:22
andreykurilinmriedem: there are 2 ways to fix CLI - "quick and dirty" (as far as I remeber proposed change worked for me) or start cleaning up https://github.com/openstack/python-novaclient/blob/master/novaclient/shell.py#L213 at first since it was designed mostly for HTTPClient imlementation which doesn't exist anymore16:22
jaypipesgibi, efried: who's gonna do that one?16:22
cfriesenmdbooth: in response to what it was affecting...the original problem was that a stress test with a number of heat stacks ended up starting VMs and one of them didn't have any NICs configured due to delays in openstack components on the compute node.16:22
mdboothcfriesen: As I say, I think it's a can of worms. The behaviour isn't clearly wrong. We're potentially massively penalising some workloads at the expense of others.16:22
mdboothcfriesen: Not yours, obviously.16:22
jaypipesgibi, efried: need to make sure not to step on each other's feet, which is why I'm asking.16:22
cfriesenmdbooth: heh...yeah, I get it.  as long as you have lots of extra ram available for the host then using the cache is going to be faster.16:23
gibijaypipes, efried: I'm already started fixing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/519601/16:23
efriedgibi Ack, I'll leave it alone.16:23
jaypipesgibi: gotcha, good. was just making sure you were on it :)16:23
cfriesenmdbooth: but it doesn't degrade gracefully16:23
mdboothNova isn't a real time system :)16:24
gibijaypipes, efried: cool. I have no other ongoing local change in that chain16:24
kashyapmdbooth: Heh16:24
mdboothHonestly, I think we'd be better served working out why the delay resulted in a failure to launch.16:24
kashyapcfriesen: I tend to agree with mdbooth's "can of worms" characterization16:25
cfriesenmdbooth: I'm shocked, shocked I tell you.    Incidentally, in a totally separate issue we're proposing the option of "fair" locks in oslo to fix a problem in nova.16:25
mdboothI can't find them right now, but I'm convinced there's a way to set hints on a file descriptor to tell the kernel: I'm only going to read this once.16:25
openstackgerritJay Pipes proposed openstack/nova master: XenAPI: create vGPU for instance  https://review.openstack.org/51689916:26
cfriesenmdbooth:  I'm familiar with madvise() for that purpose...perhaps we should propose changing qemu-img convert to use it.16:26
jaypipesjianghuaw_: ^ just a rebase.16:26
andreykurilinmriedem: I can spend some time to address simple comments, but ot sure that I'm ready now to go refactoring SecretHelper16:26
mdboothI wonder if qemu-img convert makes use of that, and if it would materially affect the kernel's cache behaviour16:26
mdboothcfriesen: That's it!16:26
cfriesenmdbooth: but that would still consume dirty pages16:26
mdboothMy memory and google-fu was failing me16:26
mriedemandreykurilin: i'm not even sure what SecretsHelper is, something with a keyring?16:27
mriedemdefinitely not tested or probably documented16:27
cfriesenmdbooth: and there's the system limits on how many dirty pages are allowed16:27
andreykurilinmriedem: I do not have a lot of info about it as well:) It was introduced long time ago and used for prompting password, caching(?!) or something like that16:28
mriedemandreykurilin: ok i'd say fix the CLI for using --os-token, and we can deal with SecretsHelper later16:28
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mriedemhttps://github.com/openstack/python-novaclient/commit/7c6f538cf6bc86ecfd9cb25f1bf7f14a6652b59216:28
mriedemi wonder if that even works anymore16:29
mriedemharlowja: ^?16:29
openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Test alloc_cands with indirectly sharing RPs  https://review.openstack.org/51960116:29
kashyapmdbooth: cfriesen There's some interesting discussion w/ the Block Layer folks on this on #qemu at the moment.  So the suggestion is that, Nova should be opinionated based on the knowledge we have16:29
andreykurilinI suppose that part of it still work16:29
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mriedemandreykurilin: but i'm not sure if the original reason for it is needed anymore16:30
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mriedemwe don't require the keyring module in novaclient16:30
mriedemso no one probably knows about this,16:30
mriedemi seem to remember the annoying keyring prompts when i started working on nova back in folsom times16:31
gibijaypipes, efried: I just pushed the updated https://review.openstack.org/519601 I'm signing off for today and I will not be available on Friday-Monday. Happy hacking!16:31
efriedgibi Thank you sir.16:31
jaypipesgibi: noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!16:31
kashyapmdbooth: cfriesen: To summarize: the "opinionated" POV for Nova could be, when using 'qemu-img': for source use 'writeback' and for destination use 'unsafe'16:31
jaypipesgibi: j/k enjoy your weekend. we'll take over your patch as needed.16:31
gibijaypipes: sorry and thank you16:32
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mdboothkashyap: That wouldn't solve cfriesen 's problem though16:32
kashyapcfriesen: (The QCOW2 developer himself says "I think unsafe caching is the best at least for qcow2 targets")16:32
andreykurilinmriedem: I suppose we can try just remove it and, possibly, no one will notice :)16:32
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: Stop posting to os-volumes_boot  https://review.openstack.org/47383316:32
cfriesenmdbooth: kashyap: aha, found my notes.  we pushed sdb to 100% util, and the global number of dirty pags hit /proc/sys/vm/dirty_bytes.  This cause writes to sda to be very slow (which is where the openstack stuff is writing).16:32
mdboothHe's not interested in the performance of qemu-img, but its impact on other processes16:32
cfriesenkashyap: looks like newer qemu-img defaults to "unsafe" for convert16:32
kashyapmdbooth: Yeah, I realize that, I should've phrased better16:32
andreykurilinmriedem: ok, I'll revise the context of the patch and return to it16:33
kashyapcfriesen: Indeed, they're the defaults, I just learnt16:33
openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-novaclient master: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/52051616:33
mdboothThe question is whether to compromise the performance of qemu-img to limit its system-wide impact.16:33
cfriesenmdbooth: are you aware of a way to limit what percentage of system-wide dirty page limit a given process can use?16:34
mdboothcfriesen: Oof, that sucks.16:34
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mriedemeasy novaclient cleanup thing here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/473833/16:35
mdboothcfriesen: I'm not.16:35
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mriedemandreykurilin: i'm guessing the SecretsHelper isn't working,16:36
mriedembecause in my devstack, I unset OS_PASSWORD and ran 'nova list' and got a 401 response,16:36
mdboothcfriesen: I'm going to have to duck out as I have something else urgent to get done. Happy to continue this conversation tomorrow?16:36
mriedemi wasn't prompted for a password16:36
kashyapmdbooth: Are you saying using 'unsafe' for 'qemu-img convert' sucks?16:36
cfriesenmdbooth: no worries, thanks for the chat16:36
kashyapmdbooth: Just trying to ensure I'm not misparsing you.  But yeah, I'll let you proceed.16:36
mdboothkashyap: No, that saturating sdb indirectly affects sda.16:36
kashyapAh, okay.16:37
cfriesenkashyap: "unsafe" says that it's possible to keep it in memory and not force it to be written out.  I suspect the OS will eventually write it out anyways.16:37
openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-novaclient master: Fix missing metavar in aggregate-update  https://review.openstack.org/51248516:37
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kashyapcfriesen: Yeah, the guest has its own cache indeed.16:37
cfriesenkashyap: but if you hit the system-wide dirty-page limit, it's going to affect writes for all devices on the system16:37
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cfriesenkashyap: remember we're talking about "qemu-img convert" here, there's no guest involved16:38
kashyapcfriesen: Yes, sorry for the mixup.  I was talking about the other scenario where why people tend to not use caching for guests.16:39
openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova master: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/52046116:39
kashyapBut indeed, we need to distinguish the two cases: (1) The cache used for the guest itself; (2) The cache property during 'qemu-img convert' for src and destination images.16:39
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kashyapcfriesen: So in your, case suckage is caused by saturating 'sdb' and hitting the 'dirty_bytes' limit16:42
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cfriesenkashyap: yep.16:44
kashyapcfriesen: Might want to write a blog post about it, if you can.  Useful for OpenStack users to be mindful of this16:45
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mriedemandreykurilin: any idea why our is_latest check here is not just checking for the "latest" word? https://github.com/openstack/python-novaclient/blob/master/novaclient/api_versions.py#L9616:45
mriedemoh nvm https://github.com/openstack/python-novaclient/blob/master/novaclient/api_versions.py#L7016:45
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cfriesenkashyap: not a bad idea....things to be aware of when tuning compute nodes. :)16:46
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kashyapYeah16:46
andreykurilinmriedem: yup, inf simplifies calculation16:46
andreykurilinand comparison16:46
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cfriesenkashyap: anyway, thanks for thinking about it even if it doesn't make sense for general use.16:46
openstackgerritEric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: placement: adds REST API for nested providers  https://review.openstack.org/38480716:46
openstackgerritEric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: placement: update client to set parent provider  https://review.openstack.org/38569316:46
openstackgerritEric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: Iterator for a provider tree  https://review.openstack.org/52024316:46
openstackgerritEric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: Scheduler set_inventory_for_provider does nested  https://review.openstack.org/52064316:46
mriedemandreykurilin: ok, so it looks like the SecretsHelper code was essentially made useless by https://review.openstack.org/#/c/184281/16:47
kashyapcfriesen: Np; thanks for opening the can^H^H^H^H bringing up the topic :P16:47
cfriesen:)16:47
mriedemandreykurilin: because if we don't have a password or token set, we try to discover the api version here https://github.com/openstack/python-novaclient/blob/master/novaclient/shell.py#L79616:47
efriedjaypipes ^ Fixed Tetsuro's comments on that first one; and the next two are the start of ComputeDriver.update_inventory framework.16:47
mriedemwhich eventually requires auth16:47
mriedemand the secrets helper stuff kicks in here https://github.com/openstack/python-novaclient/blob/master/novaclient/shell.py#L85216:48
jaypipesefried: ack, nice.16:48
efriedjaypipes Sorry, the last two.  The middle one is just a rebase.16:48
jaypipesya16:48
andreykurilinmriedem: you are right16:48
mriedemlet me see if i can hack that in my devstack to make it prompt for a password16:48
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openstackgerritEd Leafe proposed openstack/nova master: Add Selection objects  https://review.openstack.org/49923916:57
openstackgerritEd Leafe proposed openstack/nova master: Refactor the code to check for sufficient hosts  https://review.openstack.org/52024216:57
openstackgerritEd Leafe proposed openstack/nova master: Return Selection objects from the scheduler driver  https://review.openstack.org/49585416:57
openstackgerritEd Leafe proposed openstack/nova master: Modify select_destinations() to return objects and alts  https://review.openstack.org/51015916:57
openstackgerritEd Leafe proposed openstack/nova master: Change RPC for select_destinations()  https://review.openstack.org/51670716:58
openstackgerritEd Leafe proposed openstack/nova master: Move the claim_resources method to scheduler utils  https://review.openstack.org/51135716:58
openstackgerritEd Leafe proposed openstack/nova master: Make conductor pass and use host_lists  https://review.openstack.org/51135816:58
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mriedemandreykurilin: fixed!17:02
mriedemwell, i'm prompted for a password now, but apparently it's not used17:02
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openstackgerritSurya Seetharaman proposed openstack/nova master: instance_mapping/request_spec records exist even after the instances are archived  https://review.openstack.org/51503417:06
mriedemandreykurilin: so given this has been broken since liberty and no one noticed or cared, i'm thinking we could just remove it17:06
mriedemthere is no point in even deprecating it17:06
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cfriesenmriedem: for https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1482040 would it maybe make sense to disallow rebuild of boot-from-volume instance to a different image (but allow it for the same image)?17:07
openstackLaunchpad bug 1482040 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "rebuild volume-backed instance with image does not replace image in root disk" [Undecided,Confirmed]17:07
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mriedemhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/python-novaclient/+bug/173274417:08
openstackLaunchpad bug 1732744 in python-novaclient "SecretsHelper has not worked since 2015" [Undecided,Triaged] - Assigned to Matt Riedemann (mriedem)17:08
cfriesenmriedem: or should we completely disallow it for boot-from-volume since the image isn't replaced (but other stuff is, so it's still somewhat useful)17:08
mriedemcfriesen: i think you ask me this at least once per week17:08
cfriesenmriedem: last time you said to disallow it17:08
cfriesenmriedem: but I'm wondering about the case where the image matches what was on the volume17:09
mriedemsec17:10
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Fail fast if changing image on a volume-backed server rebuild  https://review.openstack.org/52066017:20
mriedemcfriesen: there you go ^ needs tests17:20
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cfriesenmriedem: so we want to disallow rebuild even to the same image?  (I think it can fix some problems, like rebuilding cinder volume connections)17:23
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mriedemcfriesen: look at the patch17:24
mriedeminstance.image_ref != image_href17:24
cfriesenmriedem: okay, but then we'll update the image ref in the instance to point to the new image (instead of having nothing like it did at boot)17:24
mriedemcfriesen: huh?17:25
mriedemwe don't save the instance.image_ref until later, after we've already failed here17:25
cfriesenmriedem: in the case of a rebuild-to-same image, before the rebuild the instance image ref is empty, after the rebuild it points to that image17:26
mriedemwhy is the instance.image_ref empty?17:26
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cfriesenmriedem: dunno, it's always been that way.  novaclient keys off an empty image ref to say "Attempt to boot from volume - no image supplied"17:27
mriedemif the instance.image_ref is empty because it's a boot from volume, then "and compute_utils.is_volume_backed_instance" is True and we raise an exception so you can't rebuild, correct?17:28
mriedemwhich means we don't get to the code that calls instance.save()17:28
cfriesenmriedem: yeah, it actually means your proposed patch will result disallowing all rebuilds of boot-from-volume.17:29
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cfriesenmriedem: I think we need to look at the image specified in the volume metadata17:29
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mriedemoh i see what you're saying17:29
mriedemcfriesen: ok comment and -1 the patch17:30
mriedemi'm dealing with novaclient atm17:30
cfriesenmriedem: one other related thing is that there's no easy way to tell using the HTTP API if an instance is boot-from-volume other than that image field.17:30
cfriesenmriedem: no worries, will poke at it.  we've got a customer issue around this17:31
mriedemyou mean there isn't an easy way for the user to discover if they have a boot from volume instance and shouldn't attempt a rebuild with a different image to avoid the 400?17:31
openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova stable/newton: Validate new image via scheduler during rebuild  https://review.openstack.org/51968417:32
cfriesenmriedem: we have some orchestration code that does stuff differently for boot-from-volume (not just for rebuild, but that's one case)17:32
mriedemwe == nova?17:32
mriedemor we == windriver?17:32
cfriesenmriedem:  no, windriver.17:32
cfriesenbut I suspect others have similar issues.  if you don't know how something was booted, it's hard to tell just by looking at instance details if it's boot-from-volume or not17:33
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mriedemhttps://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/compute/#show-server-details17:35
mriedem"The UUID and links for the image for your server instance. The image object might be an empty string when you boot the server from a volume."17:35
cfriesenmriedem: "might" is not definitive17:36
mriedemwell,17:36
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mriedemif we know that it's always the case, we can change the docs17:36
mriedembut that would require some investigation17:36
mriedem"The image object is totes empty when you BFV bra!"17:36
mriedemlet's change to that17:36
mriedemour docs are boring17:37
* cfriesen is totally down with that17:37
mriedemare you totes down?17:37
mriedembra?17:37
cfriesenI think there's a bra around here somewhere...17:37
mriedembzzt, wrong17:38
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mriedemincorrect usage of the term17:38
mriedemyou are now in PC jail, welcome17:38
openstackgerritEric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: SchedulerReportClient._get_resource_provider_tree  https://review.openstack.org/52066317:38
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efriedjaypipes ^ -- and the next one will do a public method that uses that result to populate ProviderTree.17:39
jaypipesefried: sounds good.17:39
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: Remove SecretsHelper  https://review.openstack.org/52066617:47
mriedemandreykurilin: ^17:47
mriedemcfriesen: i'm not actually sure how we get the volume image_id info17:50
mriedemnot seeing that in the volume response body17:51
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova stable/newton: Add security release note for OSSA-2017-005  https://review.openstack.org/51975517:53
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cfriesenmriedem: I think it's in the volume metadata...but let me check18:09
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cfriesenmriedem: also, is_volume_backed_instance() has a comment about a "very old instance without root bdm"...do we need to worry about that case?  if so, how would we find the root volume?18:10
mriedemi doubt we need to worry about that, it's probably referring to bdmv1 stuff18:10
cfriesenin cinder v2 api it was under volume_image_metadata, as "image_id"18:14
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efriedjaypipes See https://review.openstack.org/#/c/520246/1/nova/compute/resource_tracker.py@825 for why I think I need that iterator.18:40
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efriedjaypipes Sorry, that guy kinda fell off the series because I'm stuffing the guts in the middle.  But that's where I started; now building up the intervening pieces.18:41
jaypipesefried: k, lemme review that then18:42
efriedjaypipes Agree about thread safety, though.  It doesn't need to be an iterator; I could just build it as a list under lock and return that.  We shouldn't be talking about a huge number of providers in one of these things.18:44
jaypipesefried: ya. my point was that it should be a method on ProviderTree. But actually, I'm still not convinced it's necessary (yet). Still reviewing this...18:45
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/nova master: DNM - test updated releasenotes job  https://review.openstack.org/52067718:53
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Remove the py27 tox target  https://review.openstack.org/52068018:55
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Remove the py27 tox target  https://review.openstack.org/52068018:56
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Set the 'Upgrade impact' subsection as optional  https://review.openstack.org/51722318:57
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Remove the py27 tox target  https://review.openstack.org/52068019:03
openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-novaclient master: Stop posting to os-volumes_boot  https://review.openstack.org/47383319:04
jaypipesefried: k, see review on that one with a proposed alternative.19:07
efriedjaypipes Ack.19:07
jaypipesefried: I see where you're going. just have some thoughts on a way to hide some of that complexity behind the ProviderTree and reportclient interfaces.19:07
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openstackgerritKen'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova master: Fix the formatting for the 2.54 microversion REST API version history  https://review.openstack.org/51994019:08
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mriedemthanks oomichi_afk19:09
efriedjaypipes I understand, and am on board.  BUT 1) I still need to _normalize_inventory_from_cn_obj for each provider in the tree; and 2) the virt driver is going to have to have some way to walk the tree it's given.19:10
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jaypipesefried: agreed on the first point, for sure. on the second, I'll have to think more about that.19:14
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efriedjaypipes Just throwing this out there: What if we didn't pass virt the provider tree at all - it's responsible for building one from scratch and sending it back to us.  Then we get to go figure out whether anything has changed and flush changes accordingly.19:23
efriedjaypipes That would be easier for virt to handle than having to go around figuring out where it needs to add stuff, whether it needs to prune stuff, etc.19:24
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efriedjaypipes And it's the same paradigm we've had up to now with get_available_resource and get_inventory.19:28
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jaypipesefried: the virt driver likely will not be iterating over the provider tree in that way. instead, the virt driver will be querying for things like PCI devices and NUMA nodes etc and will simply be doing a ProviderTree.find() for that device name or NUMA node. it will then add it if the tree doesn't have it or change its traits/inventory if the find() returns a node.19:35
efriedjaypipes Giving virt a whole ProviderTree gives them the ability to muck with roots too.  Is that a good thing?19:37
efriedI guess that's how they would operate on sharing providers.19:38
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: Remove setting of version/release from releasenotes  https://review.openstack.org/52073319:46
mriedemedleafe: ok comments in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/495854/ - mostly small,19:56
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mriedemedleafe: we might want to discuss the thing here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/495854/31/nova/scheduler/filter_scheduler.py@38919:57
mriedemabout the scheduler assuming/defining behavior for conductor based on whether or not the first Selection in the list has allocation_request in it19:57
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jaypipesefried: not entirely sure, but I'm sure once we get to those patches, things will start to shake out.20:06
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mriedemedleafe: ah i see you are relying on that in conductor https://review.openstack.org/#/c/511358/24/nova/conductor/manager.py@58220:07
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openstackgerritEric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: ProviderTree.from_list and SRC.get_provider_tree  https://review.openstack.org/52075620:14
efriedjaypipes You probably want to ignore this one ^20:14
efriedalthough... I suppose the principle may be used for the method you suggested; just moving a bunch of the code from ProviderTree into report client.20:15
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mriedemjaypipes: jgriffith and i were musing about the need to include the 'deleted' column in an index,20:21
mriedemand i think i asked you about this a few weeks ago,20:21
mriedemand i thought you said it wouldn't make a noticeable difference, but i could be mistaken,20:21
mriedembut deleted can be 0 or any positive int for a deleted record20:21
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-novaclient master: Remove SecretsHelper  https://review.openstack.org/52066620:26
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efriedjaypipes It's been bugging me that the working title for the new virt driver method is `update_inventory`.  Shouldn't it be `update_provider_tree`?  Since ProviderTree is what we're passing in, and they're updating more than just the inventory therein?20:32
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Fix TypeError in nova-manage db archive_deleted_rows  https://review.openstack.org/52076520:39
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efriedjaypipes How do you feel about this: If my virt driver is using update_provider_tree, I'm advanced enough to set my own allocation ratios and reserved amounts and whatnot - which I can do from the compute conf if I feel like it - so in that scenario we should NOT call _normalize_inventory_from_cn_obj at all.20:57
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/os-vif master: Remove setting of version/release from releasenotes  https://review.openstack.org/52078821:00
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova-specs master: Fix "Line limited to a maximum of 79 characters"  https://review.openstack.org/52028121:08
openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova-specs master: Set the 'Upgrade impact' subsection as optional  https://review.openstack.org/51722321:08
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openstackgerritMichael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Convert ext filesystem resizes to privsep.  https://review.openstack.org/51751621:21
openstackgerritMichael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Move flushing block devices to privsep.  https://review.openstack.org/51901021:21
openstackgerritMichael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Start moving users of parted to privsep.  https://review.openstack.org/51901121:21
openstackgerritMichael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Move remaining uses of parted to privsep.  https://review.openstack.org/51948321:21
openstackgerritMichael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Convert users of tune2fs to privsep.  https://review.openstack.org/51948421:21
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova master: Fix the formatting for the 2.54 microversion REST API version history  https://review.openstack.org/51994021:44
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openstackgerritEric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: All providers (or UUIDs) in a ProviderTree  https://review.openstack.org/52024321:58
openstackgerritEric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: Scheduler set_inventory_for_provider does nested  https://review.openstack.org/52064321:58
openstackgerritEric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: SchedulerReportClient._get_providers_in_tree  https://review.openstack.org/52066321:58
openstackgerritEric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: ProviderTree.from_list and SRC.get_provider_tree  https://review.openstack.org/52075621:58
openstackgerritEric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Use update_provider_tree from resource tracker  https://review.openstack.org/52024621:58
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openstackgerritEric Berglund proposed openstack/nova master: PowerVM Driver: config drive  https://review.openstack.org/40940422:02
openstackgerritEric Berglund proposed openstack/nova master: WIP(5): PowerVM driver: ovs vif  https://review.openstack.org/42251222:02
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openstackgerritEric Berglund proposed openstack/nova master: PowerVM Driver: config drive  https://review.openstack.org/40940422:13
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openstackgerritEric Berglund proposed openstack/nova master: PowerVM Driver: config drive  https://review.openstack.org/40940422:15
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: Microversion 2.54 - Enable reset keypair while rebuild  https://review.openstack.org/51957222:29
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: Add support for microversion 2.55 - flavor description  https://review.openstack.org/52081922:29
openstackgerritayoung proposed openstack/nova master: Admin API Policy contingent on is_admin_project  https://review.openstack.org/38414822:35
openstackgerritEd Leafe proposed openstack/nova master: Return Selection objects from the scheduler driver  https://review.openstack.org/49585422:38
openstackgerritEd Leafe proposed openstack/nova master: Modify select_destinations() to return objects and alts  https://review.openstack.org/51015922:38
openstackgerritEd Leafe proposed openstack/nova master: Change RPC for select_destinations()  https://review.openstack.org/51670722:38
openstackgerritEd Leafe proposed openstack/nova master: Move the claim_resources method to scheduler utils  https://review.openstack.org/51135722:38
openstackgerritEd Leafe proposed openstack/nova master: Make conductor pass and use host_lists  https://review.openstack.org/51135822:38
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: Add support for microversion 2.55 - flavor description  https://review.openstack.org/52081922:38
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openstackgerritEric Berglund proposed openstack/nova master: WIP(5): PowerVM driver: ovs vif  https://review.openstack.org/42251222:55
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jaypipesefried: I'd be fine with update_provider_tree(), sure.23:11
efriedcoo23:11
jaypipesefried: (sorry, was out for a while)23:11
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: Add support for microversion 2.55 - flavor description  https://review.openstack.org/52081923:20
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Create specs directory for Rocky  https://review.openstack.org/51410123:36
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openstackgerritayoung proposed openstack/nova master: Admin API Policy contingent on is_admin_project  https://review.openstack.org/38414823:42
openstackgerritEric Berglund proposed openstack/nova master: WIP(5): PowerVM driver: ovs vif  https://review.openstack.org/42251223:48
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