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| mriedem | looking at my claim history, it's entirely possible that i forgot to make a claim on this last year | 00:05 |
| mriedem | and lost $5K | 00:05 |
| mriedem | in which case my head is going to explode | 00:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mathieu Gagné proposed openstack/nova master: Add ability to signal and perform online volume size change https://review.openstack.org/454322 | 01:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | 龚肖 proposed openstack/nova master: Replaces uuid.uuid4 with uuidutils.generate_uuid() https://review.openstack.org/449537 | 01:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova master: Use plain routes list for flavor endpoint instead of stevedore[1] https://review.openstack.org/456549 | 04:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova master: Use plain routes list for '/os-keypairs' endpoint instead of stevedore https://review.openstack.org/456478 | 04:29 |
| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova master: use plain routes list for hypervisor endpoint instead of stevedore https://review.openstack.org/459235 | 04:29 |
| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: deprecate novaclient on /os-hosts usage https://review.openstack.org/459496 | 04:31 |
| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: Remove 1.1 extension comment https://review.openstack.org/459503 | 04:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova master: Use plain routes list for limits endpoint instead of stevedore https://review.openstack.org/458805 | 06:55 |
| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova master: Use plain routes list for hosts endpoint instead of stevedore https://review.openstack.org/459231 | 06:55 |
| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova master: use plain routes list for hypervisor endpoint instead of stevedore https://review.openstack.org/459235 | 06:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: Microversion 2.43 - List/Show all server migration types https://review.openstack.org/430839 | 07:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: Microversion 2.43 - List/Show all server migration types https://review.openstack.org/430839 | 07:14 |
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| zioproto | dansmith: hello | 07:25 |
| zioproto | you around | 07:25 |
| zioproto | ? | 07:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova master: Use plain routes list for limits endpoint instead of stevedore https://review.openstack.org/458805 | 07:45 |
| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova master: Use plain routes list for hosts endpoint instead of stevedore https://review.openstack.org/459231 | 07:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova master: use plain routes list for hypervisor endpoint instead of stevedore https://review.openstack.org/459235 | 07:47 |
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| zioproto | dansmith: have a look at this https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1684861/comments/4 | 07:49 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1684861 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Mitaka -> Newton: Database online_data_migrations in newton fail due to missing keypairs" [Undecided,Invalid] | 07:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova master: Support tag instances when boot(2) https://review.openstack.org/459569 | 07:49 |
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| zioproto | hello I have a question on the nova datamodel | 08:33 |
| zioproto | is possible to have an instance in the table instances, but there is no corresponding entry in the table instance_extra ? | 08:33 |
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| bauzas | p!spy | 08:36 |
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| zioproto | bauzas: ? | 08:37 |
| bauzas | zioproto: https://anticdent.org/purple-irc-bot.html | 08:38 |
| bauzas | zioproto: oh, about the question about instance_extra ? | 08:38 |
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| zioproto | no no the spy thing :) | 08:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova master: Support tag instances when boot(3) https://review.openstack.org/459593 | 08:58 |
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| cdent | bauzas, zioproto you can also do it in a private message to purplerbot, then nobody has to see you ego surfing. If you do that then you need to include the channel | 08:58 |
| huanxie | Hi all, could you help review my fix on live migration problem with XS7.1 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/439960/ , thanks a lot | 09:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova master: use plain routes list for hypervisor endpoint instead of stevedore https://review.openstack.org/459235 | 09:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Remove all discoverable policy rules https://review.openstack.org/459608 | 09:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Remove all discoverable policy rules https://review.openstack.org/459608 | 09:40 |
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| stian__ | Why is there two seperate databases for nova? Eg. nova and nova_api? | 10:13 |
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| bauzas | stian__: see https://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/cells.html#proposal for explanations | 10:26 |
| stian__ | thanks | 10:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | fengzhr proposed openstack/nova master: Modify the description of flat_injected in nova.conf https://review.openstack.org/458789 | 10:28 |
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| BobBall | mikal: That's weird - not seen that before. pool_states is clearly in the code tree. It's also curious that http://dd6b71949550285df7dc-dda4e480e005aaa13ec303551d2d8155.r49.cf1.rackcdn.com/66/459166/1/check/dsvm-tempest-neutron-network/13ee311/logs/screen-n-cpu.txt.gz fails for Citrix CI but not for Jenkins?? | 10:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Claims in the scheduler https://review.openstack.org/437424 | 10:40 |
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| asettle | cdent: you pinged yesterday? | 10:47 |
| asettle | Ah, more install guide shenanigans | 10:47 |
| cdent | asettle: I was invoking you in a discussion about the install guide docs for placement and the bug that Br[yi]an made the other day | 10:48 |
| asettle | Hahhaha Brian :p | 10:48 |
| asettle | Yes, just reading scroll back | 10:48 |
| asettle | Jeez this never ends hey | 10:48 |
| cdent | indeed | 10:48 |
| asettle | I'm thinking we just scrap cells and placements and everythign and just have nothing and then there can be no complaints | 10:48 |
| asettle | perfect. | 10:48 |
| cdent | my late father in law is a Bryan so I try not to assume :) | 10:48 |
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| asettle | Of course :) | 10:49 |
| cdent | as usual I think the fundamental problem here was lack of communication between nova-people, docs-people and packaging-people. and what communication did happen was a-b-c instead of everyone to everyone | 10:50 |
| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Remove all discoverable policy rules https://review.openstack.org/459608 | 10:50 |
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| asettle | cdent: awesome -.- | 10:52 |
| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova master: Remove all discoverable policy rules https://review.openstack.org/459608 | 10:52 |
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| cdent | asettle: quite | 10:53 |
| asettle | Ahhhh weeellllllll | 10:53 |
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| johnthetubaguy | cdent: its amazing how well we manage to avoid / miss / stop everyone <-> everyone communication :( | 10:55 |
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| cdent | johnthetubaguy: yes. I would argue it is because we've decome to dependent on IRC (and thus synchrony) and that leaves everyone that's not there out | 10:56 |
| cdent | decome is an interesting word that I think I will use more often, once I figure out what it means | 10:56 |
| asettle | I could probably easily see that happening. Sadly, it's easy to become insular even when you're trying to be open. | 10:56 |
| johnthetubaguy | cdent: yeah, I think you are right, I was reflect on that doing the "making us more global" doc | 10:56 |
| asettle | cdent: it fits perfectly. Makes you look smart. | 10:56 |
| asettle | I'm a writer, I should know. | 10:56 |
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| cdent | A writer™ | 10:57 |
| zioproto | dansmith: ping ? | 10:58 |
| johnthetubaguy | cdent: something like relaying on tribal knowledge, and IRC as a way to get hold of it? | 10:58 |
| cdent | pretty much | 10:58 |
| asettle | cdent: I should get a shirt with that. | 10:58 |
| cdent | asettle: the number of t-shirt ideas I've had going in to this summit has been _huge_ | 10:58 |
| johnthetubaguy | zioproto: as a head up, he is on the west coast of the US, although he does tend to get on IRC quite early | 10:58 |
| cdent | but I've failed to execute on any of them | 10:58 |
| asettle | The best one I have for the moment is "Worked in devstack. Docs problem now." | 10:58 |
| johnthetubaguy | cdent: need one of the velcro t-shirts | 10:58 |
| asettle | Which is hilarious and horrifically sad. | 10:58 |
| cdent | asettle: and sadly is pretty much exactly the problem that we started the conversation with | 10:59 |
| asettle | Yes. Basically. | 10:59 |
| asettle | ANd here we are, two months later. | 10:59 |
| * cdent does a little dance | 10:59 | |
| asettle | Ah well, now I hang out more often in the nova channel than I like to admit | 11:00 |
| cdent | we'll figure it out, but it make take a while | 11:00 |
| * asettle sobs silently | 11:00 | |
| johnthetubaguy | I was talking through an idea on those deployment docs... could we pull out the packages and add in pip install, and let the package folks replace the bits they don't need | 11:00 |
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| johnthetubaguy | I am thinking make docs in a way developers think, but re-use them for the packages | 11:01 |
| asettle | johnthetubaguy: don't get me started on that convo dude. I don't disagree with you one bit, but there is more people out there using the package docs than you would like to believe. | 11:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | now I am not sure its feasible... | 11:01 |
| asettle | johnthetubaguy: doesn't work like that. Developers don't think the way that our users and operators do. | 11:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | asettle: right, not saying we don't need the package docs | 11:01 |
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| asettle | That is very apparent from the complete disconnection between the communities. | 11:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | asettle: oh, very much so, but I packages are keeping us apart here | 11:01 |
| cdent | I wonder, given the constriction in contributors, if package-related docs isn't the problem of the distros. In upstream we install from git or pip? | 11:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | cdent: thats where I am thinking | 11:02 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy: there is a big problem with that, in that python doesn't handle a bunch of constructs natively that you need for system packages | 11:02 |
| cdent | it's also aligned with the large swathes of people who puppet or ansible | 11:02 |
| zioproto | johnthetubaguy: thanks ! | 11:02 |
| sdague | like CONF_DIR or SHARE_DIR | 11:02 |
| asettle | Hmm. To be honest, I don't know. Might be a able to find out johnthetubaguy and cdent | 11:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: yeah, I mean theres a lot of hand rolling needed | 11:02 |
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| johnthetubaguy | like I say, it totally may not be feasible, but it keeps coming up | 11:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | I think the output has to be package docs, thats what the users needs | 11:03 |
| asettle | Well, I mean, it all comes down to this though - even if we decide to go a different route with the docs, we need the peoople to do it, which - we do not have., | 11:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | I am really thinking about how we get something in between thats closer to devs | 11:03 |
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| cdent | asettle: yeah | 11:03 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy: I guess I'm coming in late, what's the current issue? | 11:03 |
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| johnthetubaguy | asettle: very true, the bootstrap of any of these needs people | 11:03 |
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| asettle | I would love to say that this conversation can really go somewhere this release, but I can't guarantee anything. I just lost 4 cores including myself (in theory) | 11:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: we suck at updating the package docs | 11:04 |
| asettle | johnthetubaguy: Okay can you please write that on a piece of paper and sign that and send it to me? I'dl ike to frame that :p | 11:04 |
| cdent | another option, which is dire, but may represent the reality of lack of people: don't do docs | 11:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | asettle: sure | 11:04 |
| cdent | _really_ make it the distros problem | 11:05 |
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| cdent | I know that's unrealistic, but it puts the scale of the problem into the proper perspective | 11:05 |
| cdent | at one end is: no docs and the other is: glorious hand crafted by the community docs for all install scenarios | 11:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | bad docs is worse than no docs, in many ways | 11:06 |
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| johnthetubaguy | well, I mean to say, there is great value in knowing the current docs are broken | 11:06 |
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| johnthetubaguy | so we though we did enough docs as we went, for peoples needs | 11:07 |
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| johnthetubaguy | I guess my thing is how do we make that actually true | 11:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: is that a better problem statement ^ | 11:07 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy: yeh, probably | 11:08 |
| sdague | sorry, first cup of coffee | 11:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | I am waiting for a coffee delivery, but I think I should be OK, I have one pod left. | 11:09 |
| sdague | in my world of wishes (stuff that would be nice but I don't know if ever would happen) | 11:10 |
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| sdague | 1) python install infrastructure understands basic unix semantics which means pip install nova would be totally realistic. Thus the differences between pip and packages is smaller, and things are more likely to work. | 11:11 |
| sdague | which is probably 1 - 2 years upstream python work to get that into the python install infrastructure | 11:11 |
| sdague | 2) the install manuals are marked up in such a way that the install procedure could be executed by a machine, so we don't just need human testers finding issues late in the process | 11:12 |
| cdent | (if the docs can be tested by a machine, then an install can be done by a machine, and thus we don't need the instructions in the docs?) | 11:12 |
| sdague | docs are also there to explain what is going on, they still need some testing | 11:13 |
| sdague | manually | 11:13 |
| sdague | it's just adding unit testing to the docs | 11:14 |
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| cdent | On 1, I think I disagree. The issue isn't entirely on the side of python packaging, it is the extent to which we think that packaging should manage the install. We shouldn't, for example, require a conf file, paste file, or policy file. Only if they are different. | 11:14 |
| mikal | BobBall: interestingly, it only happens on my code. There's something subtle happening I'll have to dig into. | 11:14 |
| cdent | And files that must exist can either be used as pkg_data, or be created on the fly | 11:15 |
| cdent | or to put another way: the issues may be with the existing complexity, not the limitations of python packaging | 11:15 |
| asettle | Jesus this is what happens when I don't look for 5 minutes | 11:15 |
| cdent | we could look at the difficulties with the tooling as a smell in _our_ stuff, not the other stuff | 11:16 |
| asettle | Uhhh *raises hand* I would say that no docs is probably not beneficial | 11:16 |
| cdent | asettle: that's why it is over on the bad end of the scale | 11:16 |
| sdague | cdent: there is plenty of existing complexity to prune down (paste is a good example), but I very much disagree that python having no first order constructs for CONF_DIR and SHARE_DIR is not a problem. | 11:17 |
| cdent | what's wrong with pkg data for those things? | 11:17 |
| sdague | write me the setup.py that configures apache | 11:18 |
| sdague | for placement | 11:18 |
| cdent | that's what I'm saying we don't want that | 11:18 |
| sdague | that's what I'm saying we absolutely want if we expect the pip install method to be a thing | 11:18 |
| cdent | why should pip install nova configure apache? | 11:19 |
| cdent | ansible, puppet, my fingers should do that | 11:19 |
| sdague | then it's not an installer | 11:19 |
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| sdague | if "pip install nova" doesn't get to me to "service nova start" and things work, then there is a bunch of missing space there | 11:20 |
| cdent | yes, and it is in that missing space where most people want their own control | 11:20 |
| cdent | if we try to, ourselves, fill in that space we are giving ourselves a bunch of work that we will most likely get wrong, and will also not reach everyone | 11:20 |
| sdague | cdent: not for the most part people using our install guide | 11:20 |
| cdent | better to make that space blank | 11:20 |
| cdent | the current install guide has a _ton_ of by hand work | 11:21 |
| sdague | cdent: just to be clear, you are mostly just arguing for the status quo | 11:21 |
| sdague | which, is fine | 11:21 |
| cdent | which at the moment is at risk of constantly wrong | 11:21 |
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| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: sdague I guess this is just waiting for +2 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/445864/ :) | 11:22 |
| zioproto | johnthetubaguy: running mitaka I found out that I have rows with the same instance_uuid in the table instance_extra | 11:22 |
| cdent | I would much rather the docs start from a common denominator (which would be be 'pip install <something' and then proceed (in the hard-way trope that's common these days) to educate people in the system they are messing with | 11:22 |
| cdent | for the people who want automation they can go use it | 11:22 |
| zioproto | should I understand why ? | 11:22 |
| zioproto | it sounds like a possible bug ? | 11:23 |
| * cdent thinks the packaging choices are the part that causes the opacity that leads to errors in the install docs | 11:23 | |
| johnthetubaguy | zioproto: good question, I am not sure, sounds bad | 11:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: I think I was with cdent (in the crazy idea in my head), its about documenting using pip to do the install, not about making pip do all the install | 11:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: but it does seem odd writing it down when people want a script to do it for them | 11:26 |
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| cdent | johnthetubaguy, sdague I don't think people who are trying things _do_ want a script to do it for them. They want to try it on for size by really understanding the pieces and parts. Then once they decide it is worth it _then_ they want automation | 11:27 |
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| sdague | cdent: that's probably an area where we don't agree. I've never seen that perspective in anyone I've interacted with. | 11:28 |
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| cdent | the install guide shouldn't really be an install guide, it's a "what's this openstack thing guide". Anybody who is _really_ using it will have transcended that stage. | 11:29 |
| cdent | such a document would start with something like "if you don't care about these details, see <these OSA docs>" | 11:30 |
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| cdent | (of course in the absence of the people, all of this is moot) | 11:31 |
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| cdent | I guess underlying all this for me is that the point of upstream install docs in something as huge and infrastructurey as openstack is not to create users, it is to create contributors. | 11:35 |
| sdague | maybe, I think that's just punting the problem. And I don't feel like those level of installers actually scale down well to small clusters. | 11:35 |
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| sdague | so, I'm assuming the starting point of this conversation is issues with placement docs? | 11:38 |
| cdent | but of course, but we resolved that relatively quickly and moved on to general notions of how do we improve the communication about creation of docs, and then into more esoteric notions of "what are docs, anyway?" | 11:39 |
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| cdent | the original problem was that there's a mismatch in the docs between the configured endpoint for placement in apache in the packages and the service catalog endpoint | 11:39 |
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| sdague | and that it took a while to notice? | 11:41 |
| cdent | sdague: I think more that the various threads of noticing took a while to cohere into shared awareness? | 11:42 |
| sdague | ok, I'm not sure I understand what that sentence means | 11:43 |
| cdent | lots of people noticed, at different times, and talked about with different people, at different times, but because the right people weren't there at the time of talking it didn't result in plans for change until yesterday afternoon | 11:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Feodor Tersin proposed openstack/nova master: Implement ScaleIO image backend https://review.openstack.org/407440 | 11:44 |
| cdent | (that's captures the subthread in this discussion of "IRC may be hurting us, sometimes") | 11:44 |
| * jaypipes reads back through interesting conversation b/w asettle, cdent, sdague and johnthetubaguy... | 11:45 | |
| cdent | jaypipes: I hope you had a good sleep and coffee already | 11:45 |
| jaypipes | cdent: yes on both counts :) | 11:45 |
| sdague | cdent: so, just to make sure we're not just all sitting around discussing while the house is burning, whatever was broken is now fixed? and now it's postmortem? | 11:47 |
| cdent | the immediate problem is in the process of being fixed in the install guides. this is postmortem and noodling about how to do better in the future | 11:47 |
| * cdent locates bug | 11:48 | |
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| cdent | https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1683585 | 11:48 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1683585 in openstack-manuals "Placement endpoint configuration incorrect as written" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Brian Moss (bmoss) | 11:48 |
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| asettle | cdent: thanks for continuing to look into it | 11:57 |
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| lyarwood | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bug/1685185 - core reviews on this bugfix series would be appreciated if anyone has time today. | 12:08 |
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| andymccr | if any cores are about to review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/455710/ it would be appreciated - I'd like to return OSA to tracking head of master for Nova. | 12:29 |
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| efried | sdague Can I please get a re-up on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/438729/ when you get a chance? Trivial changes since last PS. | 12:32 |
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| Srinu | Hi, how run cloud-init while creating nova server through nova client api python using userdata script . i passed the string in userdata as argument while creating server but it is not running the commands what i mentioned in the userdata script. Userdata script is not copying to /var/lib/cloud/ directory | 12:35 |
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| sdague | efried: done | 12:36 |
| efried | sdague Thank you kindly. | 12:36 |
| efried | Srinu I think that question might be more appropriate for #openstack. | 12:37 |
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| dane-fichter | Is there any guide / docs on how to add things to the Instance object? | 12:47 |
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| BobBall | mikal: I kinda hope that the decorator is causing some failure to parse code (or similar) which results in the import failure... but the logs are not very helpful, are they | 12:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova master: Remove all discoverable policy rules https://review.openstack.org/459608 | 12:54 |
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| mriedem | it's national bug spring cleaning day | 13:01 |
| mriedem | international i should say | 13:01 |
| mriedem | bauzas: sfinucan: can we get this in to unblock using the latest os-brick? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/459420/ | 13:02 |
| bauzas | mriedem: wait, what ? international bug sprint cleaning day ? orly? | 13:02 |
| bauzas | mriedem: looking | 13:02 |
| bauzas | mriedem: done | 13:04 |
| bauzas | sfinucan: ^ | 13:04 |
| dane-fichter | mriedem: I've got a bug that's breaking ephemeral storage encryption | 13:04 |
| dane-fichter | mriedem: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/446072/ | 13:04 |
| mriedem | bauzas: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-April/115704.html | 13:04 |
| sfinucan | mriedem: likewise | 13:04 |
| dane-fichter | ^ that patch has been sitting for a while | 13:04 |
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| vladikr | mriedem, hey, for some reason my emails to the dev list are being rejected .. but if no one else is interested, I could continue working on these two: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/live-migrate-rescued-instances | 13:10 |
| vladikr | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/prep-for-network-aware-scheduling-pike | 13:10 |
| mriedem | vladikr: i'm good with you taking the live migrate rescued instances one, you might want to talk to johnthetubaguy about the network-aware scheduling one | 13:11 |
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| johnthetubaguy | yeah, I have a lot of the patches up for that second one | 13:12 |
| sdague | alex_xu: did we ever end up with the swagger docs for nova committed anywhere? to show as an example? | 13:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: vladikr: I am really just waiting on reviews on that second one | 13:12 |
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| vladikr | johnthetubaguy, ah, sure. I just saw it on the list, | 13:13 |
| vladikr | mriedem, cool, I'll continue with the first one then | 13:13 |
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| johnthetubaguy | vladikr: I believe the code was up for the live-migrated-rescued-instances one, the original paul murray patch was tidied up | 13:13 |
| mriedem | mtreinish: looks like you want to own https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/remove-nova-cert now? | 13:13 |
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| mriedem | paul carlton | 13:14 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: you are right, my pad | 13:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | bad | 13:14 |
| mriedem | british HPE guys named paul are a dime a dozen | 13:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: was looking a policy this morning, made a lis on the spec | 13:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: apparently | 13:14 |
| vladikr | ok, I see ... | 13:14 |
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| mriedem | vladikr: i've assigned https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/live-migrate-rescued-instances to you | 13:15 |
| mriedem | thanks | 13:15 |
| vladikr | mriedem, thanks | 13:15 |
| mriedem | there is also a tempest test to test the series, but that probably also needs updating | 13:15 |
| vladikr | ok | 13:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, that needs work I suspect | 13:15 |
| vladikr | I'll take a look. I haven't seen what has been done so far | 13:16 |
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| sfinucan | mriedem: Could you look at [1] at some point. It's low priority, but I want to get it in now so we can stick to a six month (/one release) deprecation cycle [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/move-nova-cmds-to-cliff | 13:18 |
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| mriedem | sfinucan: i'll start the series, but probably can't start on it this morning | 13:19 |
| mriedem | *star | 13:19 |
| sfinucan | mriedem: Fine by me. Once it's looked at some time in the next week or two | 13:19 |
| sfinucan | ta :) | 13:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: I made a list of the policy files that still need fixing up: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/policy-docs | 13:20 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: in the process I implemented https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/remove-discoverable-policy-rules | 13:20 |
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| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: ah ok | 13:23 |
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| mriedem | dane-fichter: with AES and aes be handled the same way in castellan? | 13:24 |
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| dane-fichter | mriedem: I believe there's code in Castellan to handle that. Hold on, let me check. | 13:25 |
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| bauzas | mriedem: oh, I missed that bug cleaning day :( | 13:28 |
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| bauzas | mriedem: is macsz not impacted by the OSIC issue ? | 13:29 |
| mriedem | bauzas: he is | 13:29 |
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| mriedem | dane-fichter: if using barbican it's just passed through https://github.com/openstack/castellan/blob/master/castellan/key_manager/barbican_key_manager.py#L224 | 13:30 |
| dane-fichter | mriedem: Yeah it looks like all the unit tests use 'AES' | 13:31 |
| alex_xu | sdague: this is a poc https://review.openstack.org/#/c/233446/ | 13:31 |
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| sdague | alex_xu: yeh, I found some files checked in on fairy-slipper | 13:31 |
| sdague | I was trying to find the x-actions bit | 13:32 |
| sdague | though, that review is a good reminder | 13:32 |
| dane-fichter | mriedem: I'm asking Kaitlin Farr about this. I recall some code handling this aes/AES issue | 13:32 |
| mriedem | dane-fichter: ok | 13:33 |
| mriedem | i left questions in the review | 13:33 |
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| dane-fichter | mriedem: Thanks for taking a look, I'll follow-up on this and get back to you | 13:33 |
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| alex_xu | sdague: yea, probably fairy-slipper have something related to action. I don't remember we discuss the action in the poc or nova-spec, since we say no the extended swagger in early stage | 13:35 |
| sdague | alex_xu: yeh, I was just trying to dig up some post mortem on the effort for my talk about solving big issues in OpenStack | 13:36 |
| mriedem | sdague: johnthetubaguy: would one of you like to play god and pick the first microversion for pike? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/456504/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/457181/ | 13:37 |
| alex_xu | sdague: you mean a talk in summit or somewhere? | 13:37 |
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| sdague | alex_xu: summit | 13:39 |
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| alex_xu | sdague: cool, i'm looking aforward to seeing the video :) | 13:40 |
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| alex_xu | s/aforward/forward/ | 13:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: api-ref: move createBackup to server-actions https://review.openstack.org/452971 | 13:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: 2.43: Remove Location header from createImage and createBackup responses https://review.openstack.org/455443 | 13:47 |
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| mriedem | alex_xu: ^ is unchanged except for adding the 2.43 response examples to the api-ref as gmann pointd out | 13:48 |
| mriedem | *pointed | 13:48 |
| alex_xu | mriedem: got it, that is good point | 13:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: encryptors: Switch to os-brick encryptor classes https://review.openstack.org/391597 | 13:51 |
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| sdague | mriedem: I picked os-hosts | 13:53 |
| alex_xu | mriedem: done | 13:54 |
| sdague | alex_xu: you want to rev https://review.openstack.org/#/c/457181 to go on top of it ? | 13:54 |
| mriedem | sdague: excellent choice | 13:54 |
| alex_xu | sdague: yea, sure | 13:54 |
| alex_xu | sdague: you need another chooice between my one and mriedem one :) | 13:54 |
| sdague | alex_xu: oh, what's the next choice? | 13:54 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/455443/ | 13:54 |
| mriedem | but i'll have to rebase too | 13:54 |
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| sdague | so, just based on initial submit time, I'd take alex_xu's first | 13:55 |
| sdague | and mriedem you stack up after tat | 13:55 |
| sdague | that | 13:55 |
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| mriedem | ok | 13:56 |
| alex_xu | ok :) | 13:56 |
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| sdague | so, given rebasing all those like that, we could probably get them both merged by tomorrow | 13:56 |
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| mriedem | alex_xu: i'll rebase mine once yours is up | 13:57 |
| alex_xu | mriedem: thanks | 13:57 |
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| mriedem | sdague: i see our functional tests fail with this requests stuff a lot lately, is there some retry magic we should be building in? http://logs.openstack.org/20/459420/1/check/gate-nova-tox-functional-ubuntu-xenial/c0bdfa6/console.html#_2017-04-25_13_55_17_705409 | 14:02 |
| mriedem | to the functional test api client? | 14:02 |
| sdague | mriedem: hmmm... that's weird | 14:07 |
| sdague | mriedem: so that whole BadStatusLine remains a mystery to me | 14:07 |
| sdague | I wonder if it's further eventlet fallout? | 14:08 |
| sdague | mriedem: how frequent is it? | 14:08 |
| cdent | sdague: I seem to recall that having shown up in the past as an artifact of weird eventlet collisions | 14:08 |
| mriedem | 11 hits in 7 days on that job | 14:08 |
| cdent | but I may be remembering something else | 14:08 |
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| sdague | I remember looking at it in the gate, and assuming it was load / proxy related | 14:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alex Xu proposed openstack/nova master: Deprecate Multinic, floatingip action and os-virtual-interface API https://review.openstack.org/457181 | 14:12 |
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| alex_xu | mriedem: sdague ^ done | 14:13 |
| mriedem | alex_xu: thanks | 14:13 |
| alex_xu | np | 14:13 |
| jaypipes | alex_xu: pls see my request on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/445864. If you can push that change quickly, I can re-review and +2/W it with johnthetubaguy. | 14:13 |
| mriedem | bauzas: you might be interested in the oldest stale in progress bug (which isn't actually in progress): https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1528743 | 14:14 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1528743 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "HostState in Scheduler can be incorrect" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Zhenyu Zheng (zhengzhenyu) | 14:14 |
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| cdent | sdague: from some reading just now it appears to happen when either the server side has closed the connection at the exact time the client is trying to read the status line, or is sending a response (because it is evil) without a status line | 14:14 |
| bauzas | mriedem: was absorbed into a team meeting, but will do as soon as it finishes | 14:14 |
| alex_xu | jaypipes: ah, thanks, I will push that change quickly | 14:14 |
| cdent | sdague: TLS isn't invovled in these is it? | 14:15 |
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| mriedem | cdent: for the functional tests it shouldn't be | 14:15 |
| cdent | do these functional tests spawn off a different process for the api server, or do it in process somehow? | 14:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova master: Add description to policies in migrate_server.py https://review.openstack.org/459711 | 14:17 |
| mriedem | cdent: they use OSAPIFixture which says "This spawns an OS API server as a fixture in a new greenthread in the current test." | 14:18 |
| cdent | ah, then yeah, it could very well be eventlet | 14:18 |
| mtreinish | mriedem: yeah, it seemed simple enough. Assuming I can figure out how to make the api-ref job pass | 14:18 |
| mriedem | mtreinish: you'll have to use restructure text files rather than latex | 14:18 |
| mriedem | so it could be a challenge | 14:18 |
| mriedem | :P | 14:19 |
| cdent | if for some reason the new greenthread doesn't get yielded to when it should, the client will try to read off the socket which nothing paying proper attention on the other side | 14:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Alex Xu proposed openstack/nova master: Use plain routes list for flavors-access endpoint instead of stevedore https://review.openstack.org/456589 | 14:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Alex Xu proposed openstack/nova master: Use plain routes list for '/servers' endpoint instead of stevedore https://review.openstack.org/445864 | 14:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Alex Xu proposed openstack/nova master: Use plain routes list for flavor endpoint instead of stevedore[1] https://review.openstack.org/456549 | 14:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Alex Xu proposed openstack/nova master: Use plain routes list for '/os-aggregates' endpoint instead of stevedore https://review.openstack.org/456825 | 14:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Alex Xu proposed openstack/nova master: Use plain routes list for flavors-extraspecs endpoint instead of stevedore https://review.openstack.org/456585 | 14:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alex Xu proposed openstack/nova master: Use plain routes list for '/os-keypairs' endpoint instead of stevedore https://review.openstack.org/456478 | 14:19 |
| alex_xu | jaypipes: ^ | 14:19 |
| jaypipes | alex_xu: w00t. reviewing now. | 14:20 |
| alex_xu | jaypipes: thanks | 14:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack/nova master: Remove nova-cert https://review.openstack.org/459460 | 14:22 |
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| cdent | mriedem one way to test the theory about eventlet is to inject a eventlet.greenthread.sleep(0) just before the failing call/test | 14:25 |
| mriedem | cdent: the test that fails is pretty random though | 14:26 |
| mriedem | so i'm not sure what is triggering it | 14:26 |
| cdent | yes, the failure will be random in the eventlet case, that's why I'm wondering if that's the cause | 14:26 |
| cdent | if you force a yield and it works consistently, then that might be it | 14:26 |
| cdent | and we can consider "proper" solutions | 14:26 |
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| cdent | if it makes no difference, then ... | 14:26 |
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| cdent | mriedem: oh I see your saying not that a test fails randomly but rather different tests randomly fail | 14:28 |
| mriedem | alex_xu: you're missing the GET versions samples https://review.openstack.org/#/c/457181/ | 14:28 |
| mriedem | cdent: yeah | 14:29 |
| cdent | in that case, is there some way to centralize the sleep(0) | 14:29 |
| cdent | like in some central method that is making the request? | 14:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Mathieu Gagné proposed openstack/nova master: Add ability to signal and perform online volume size change https://review.openstack.org/454322 | 14:29 |
| mriedem | cdent: probably here File "nova/tests/functional/api/client.py", line 164, in api_request | 14:30 |
| mriedem | also https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1686109 | 14:30 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1686109 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "requests.exceptions.ConnectionError: ('Connection aborted.', BadStatusLine("''",)) in functional tests" [Medium,Confirmed] | 14:30 |
| mriedem | is the bug i reported for tracking it | 14:30 |
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| erhudy | when an instance is launched and neutron ports are attached, does nova do that without calling the interface attach action from the API? not having os_compute_api:os-attach-interfaces disallows it after instance creation as expected, but at launch time it seems to take a different path | 14:31 |
| erhudy | albeit this is on liberty so things may be different now | 14:32 |
| cdent | mriedem i can poke at it after I'm done poking at devstack/uwsgi/nova/metadata, unless you're on the case? | 14:32 |
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| mriedem | cdent: i'm not no | 14:33 |
| cdent | ✔ | 14:33 |
| mriedem | erhudy: same internal code, different API entrypoint | 14:33 |
| mriedem | erhudy: so no, server create does not call os-attach-interfaces | 14:34 |
| alex_xu | mriedem: ah, thanks, rebase merge that with os-hosts change... | 14:34 |
| mriedem | erhudy: i believe there is a separate policy rule for disabling networking on server create | 14:34 |
| mriedem | alex_xu: ah | 14:34 |
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| erhudy | mriedem: thanks for the explanation | 14:35 |
| mriedem | erhudy: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/openstack/compute/servers.py#L533 | 14:35 |
| mriedem | is the policy to disable creating networks on a server create request | 14:36 |
| mriedem | well, | 14:36 |
| mriedem | requesting specific networks i should say | 14:36 |
| mriedem | if you omit networks, but one is available to the project, a port will still be created on that network | 14:36 |
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| mriedem | there is probably a bug there wrt the 2.37 microversion and requesting networks='none' | 14:37 |
| mriedem | since we don't check for that case | 14:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Alex Xu proposed openstack/nova master: Deprecate Multinic, floatingip action and os-virtual-interface API https://review.openstack.org/457181 | 14:37 |
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| erhudy | alright, thanks for pointing me to the right place | 14:38 |
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| dane-fichter | mriedem: barbican can handle either 'aes' or 'AES', you can see it in the functional tests | 14:46 |
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| mriedem | erhudy: fyi https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1686113 | 14:46 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1686113 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "os_compute_api:servers:create:attach_network does not account for networks='none' and microversion 2.37" [Low,Triaged] | 14:46 |
| mriedem | dane-fichter: ok | 14:47 |
| mriedem | just reply to my question in the review i suppose | 14:47 |
| dane-fichter | mriedem: will do | 14:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova master: Add description to policies in migrations.py https://review.openstack.org/459727 | 14:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Add BDM to InstancePayload https://review.openstack.org/448779 | 14:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: DNM: Use greenthread sleep to unlock api test threads https://review.openstack.org/459733 | 14:56 |
| cdent | mriedem: one way around that ^ problem would be use to use wsgi-intercept instead of spawning a separate thread | 14:57 |
| mriedem | dane-fichter: also note that the test that's dependent on this nova fix is still failing http://logs.openstack.org/59/455459/17/check/gate-barbican-simple-crypto-dsvm-tempest-ubuntu-xenial-nv/eb0372f/console.html#_2017-04-24_21_31_53_893425 | 14:57 |
| mriedem | dane-fichter: so it'd be nice to see that passing | 14:57 |
| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova master: Fix rendering of several policy rule descriptions https://review.openstack.org/459734 | 14:58 |
| dane-fichter | mriedem: yeah that's failing for other reasons, but agreed. | 14:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack/nova master: disable keepalive for functional tests https://review.openstack.org/459735 | 14:59 |
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| sfinucan | johnthetubaguy: RE: https://review.openstack.org/459734 | 15:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Gábor Antal proposed openstack/nova master: Transform instance.volume_attach notification https://review.openstack.org/401992 | 15:03 |
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| sfinucan | johnthetubaguy: what's actually doing the rendering? Couldn't we change that instead to strip newlines or whatnot | 15:03 |
| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: update LibvirtConfigGuestDeviceAddress to provide XML https://review.openstack.org/459737 | 15:03 |
| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: set full description of the controller used by disk https://review.openstack.org/459738 | 15:03 |
| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: rearange how scsi controller is defined https://review.openstack.org/459739 | 15:03 |
| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: update logic to configure device for scsi controller https://review.openstack.org/459740 | 15:03 |
| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: update the logic to configure volume with scsi controller https://review.openstack.org/459741 | 15:03 |
| mriedem | sdague: cool i forgot that was something we had for eventlet | 15:04 |
| mriedem | sdague: that will likely fix it | 15:04 |
| * sfinucan thinks fixing something without adding a test to enforce a style in the future is a bad idea | 15:04 | |
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| mriedem | test_popped_collar? | 15:08 |
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| moshele | jaypipes: hi can you review some pci stuff https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453938/ | 15:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack/nova master: Remove nova-cert https://review.openstack.org/459460 | 15:10 |
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| jaypipes | moshele: yes sir! | 15:12 |
| moshele | jaypipes: thanks :) | 15:13 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: something is confusing me, and I'd love your insights : would having the claims in the scheduler solve the RAX problem requiring to use CachingScheduler? | 15:14 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: in other words, could we deprecate CachingScheduler if we merge scheduler claims in Pike ? | 15:14 |
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| mriedem | bauzas: placement solves the performance issue, or is supposed to solve the performance issue, which is why the caching scheduler exists, | 15:15 |
| mriedem | but caching scheduler doesn't use placement | 15:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Daniel Pawlik proposed openstack/nova master: Added kvm_hidden feature https://review.openstack.org/459753 | 15:16 |
| bauzas | mriedem: okay, because we don't fully fetch the large list of hosts, got it | 15:17 |
| bauzas | (in the filter scheduler) | 15:18 |
| sean-k-mooney | the caching scheduler solve a part of scheduler performance but with the placement api and schduler claim you would nolonger have race condtions in the scheduler and could scaler it liniearly horizontally by adding more schdedulers | 15:18 |
| mriedem | well and filters in db | 15:18 |
| mriedem | bauzas: johnthetubaguy + osic said filter scheduler + placement was still slower than caching scheduler because of the retries | 15:18 |
| mriedem | due to not claiming in the scheduler | 15:18 |
| mriedem | so if we pick the correct host the first time in the scheduler by doing the correct claim, we should mitigate the need for retries | 15:19 |
| mriedem | which is also why i nag about not relying on retries in the claims in scheduler spec | 15:19 |
| bauzas | okay | 15:19 |
| mriedem | or assuming it will work, or be there | 15:19 |
| mriedem | it == retries | 15:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Claims in the scheduler https://review.openstack.org/437424 | 15:20 |
| bauzas | mriedem: dansmith: updated the spec before I forgot to remove an unnecessary work item ^ | 15:20 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: too ^ | 15:20 |
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| sean-k-mooney | mriedem: +1 the claims process needs to be independent of (not depend on ) retries. | 15:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Gábor Antal proposed openstack/nova master: Transform instance.volume_detach notification https://review.openstack.org/408676 | 15:21 |
| mriedem | sean-k-mooney: until we pick the wrong host b/c we didn't know about all of your crazy extra specs and aggregate requirements for NFV :) | 15:22 |
| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova master: numa: fix an uninitialized local variable https://review.openstack.org/458848 | 15:23 |
| sean-k-mooney | mriedem: ofcourse life would be so much less interesting without the nfv curve ball but nested resource provides and traits should fix that | 15:23 |
| bauzas | sean-k-mooney: mriedem: anyway, given we only check mem/cpu/disk and not other resource classes in the placement engine, we still need to accept reschedules... | 15:24 |
| bauzas | until we at least have nested RPs | 15:24 |
| bauzas | for NUMA resources | 15:25 |
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| sean-k-mooney | bauzas: im reading the spec now but at what point is the claim made? before or after the filters run? | 15:25 |
| mriedem | sean-k-mooney: after | 15:25 |
| dansmith | sean-k-mooney: has to be after, else we don't know what to claim :) | 15:26 |
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| sean-k-mooney | ya so it should be after in the weigher stage right | 15:26 |
| dansmith | mriedem: are we holding off on approving this until after forum, or should we just go ahead and merge and handle any feedback as an amendment? | 15:26 |
| dansmith | sean-k-mooney: it's after weighers too | 15:26 |
| bauzas | sean-k-mooney: tbc, it will probably be in the consume_from_request() method or somewhere close to it | 15:27 |
| dansmith | sean-k-mooney: it's at the point at which we pick a host, but before we ask that host to build (whereas currently it's after the host has started to build) | 15:27 |
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| bauzas | because we already somehow "claim" the resource in the in-memory HostState scheduler manager | 15:27 |
| sean-k-mooney | dansmith: bauzas that makes sense. | 15:27 |
| sean-k-mooney | you should not need to rescudle for nfv requirements then as you have already validated that you can provided them | 15:28 |
| mriedem | dansmith: i'm not intentionally holding it up until after the forum. i wanted to get agreement on the plan prior to the forum, start POC code, and present the plan at the forum to get feedback from ops. | 15:29 |
| dansmith | sean-k-mooney: well, since we're not claiming the numa type resources in that claim, we'll still be able to race with filters choosing the same thing for multiple concurrent builds | 15:29 |
| mriedem | dansmith: i just haven't read the latest revision yet | 15:29 |
| dansmith | mriedem: yeah, I'd really like to see code before forum | 15:29 |
| sean-k-mooney | dansmith: yes that is true | 15:29 |
| dansmith | mriedem: okay I should take a pass through it.. maybe we can merge the spec this week and get some code going before forum if you're cool with it | 15:29 |
| mriedem | i am cool with progress yes | 15:30 |
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| mriedem | remember, i like rush | 15:30 |
| sean-k-mooney | dansmith: you should be able to vailidate that before calling to the host though. ie. if you can claim the numa page allocation abourt and retry | 15:30 |
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| sean-k-mooney | mriedem: is that late abort and retry the issue you were commenting on? | 15:31 |
| mriedem | sean-k-mooney: we don't have allocations for numa yet | 15:31 |
| mriedem | in placement | 15:31 |
| mriedem | i believe that's nested resource providers territory | 15:31 |
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| sean-k-mooney | oh ok i understand the gap now. ya that was covered by nested providers | 15:32 |
| mriedem | so if you're an NFV shop and we don't have nested resource providers yet, then you'll need to enable retries yes | 15:32 |
| mriedem | which means you're not using the whole cells v2 superconductor deployment model | 15:32 |
| bauzas | mriedem: dansmith: I can start pushing code, fersür | 15:33 |
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| bauzas | the spec, IHMO, is in a good shape with good work items, so that's a cool start | 15:33 |
| bauzas | now that said, I need to disappear for now | 15:34 |
| bauzas | ttyl folks | 15:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Daniel Pawlik proposed openstack/nova master: Added kvm_hidden feature https://review.openstack.org/459753 | 15:39 |
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| dansmith | sean-k-mooney: if we ran filters twice or something maybe | 15:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Gábor Antal proposed openstack/nova master: Transform instance.volume_detach notification https://review.openstack.org/408676 | 15:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: Register osapi_compute when nova-api is wsgi https://review.openstack.org/457283 | 15:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: Add pbr-installed wsgi application for metadata api https://review.openstack.org/459413 | 15:42 |
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| sean-k-mooney | dansmith: perhaps though honestly if the only main gap is the nfv constartisn of numa,cpu pinning,hugepages and pci devices it sounds like that will be addressed in time by nested resouce providers. | 15:52 |
| dansmith | sean-k-mooney: indeed, that's the plan | 15:52 |
| sean-k-mooney | dansmith: a validate call to the filters that accpeted a claim would also work but its a lot of work that may not be worth it | 15:52 |
| dansmith | sean-k-mooney: yeah, I'd rather focus on the right fix | 15:53 |
| mriedem | i haven't thought yet about how we replace the affinity filters with placement | 15:53 |
| mriedem | i guess sum the reqs for all members of an affinity group and find a provider for them | 15:54 |
| sean-k-mooney | the affinity filters in general or the server group affinity filters | 15:54 |
| dansmith | mriedem: needs more placement support I think.. jaypipes has waxed poetic about it in the past | 15:54 |
| mriedem | server group | 15:54 |
| sean-k-mooney | mriedem: traits maybe? | 15:54 |
| mriedem | anti-affinity, you could get RPs where len(RPs) > anti-affinity server group members, and then have to fit each member into a unique provider | 15:55 |
| mriedem | but idk | 15:55 |
| mriedem | sean-k-mooney: traits aren't the answer to everything :) | 15:55 |
| dansmith | lol | 15:55 |
| mriedem | when i give the project roadmap thing for R, | 15:55 |
| mriedem | i think i'm going to say, "fix traits which has become the new bdm/quotas/local delete quagmire" | 15:55 |
| dansmith | lol | 15:56 |
| mriedem | roadmap for R: turn traits into CIMaaS | 15:56 |
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| jaypipes | mriedem: server groups are on my list of "figure out how to port this over to placement" things, yeah.... | 15:56 |
| sean-k-mooney | true i was thinking more of taging a resouce prvider in some way and saying only condider providers with this tag | 15:56 |
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| jaypipes | mriedem: for the immediate future, they will need to stay in the scheduler filters/weighers. | 15:56 |
| mriedem | sean-k-mooney: that's more like an aggregate to me | 15:57 |
| jaypipes | mriedem: right. | 15:57 |
| mriedem | jaypipes: yeah that's fine | 15:57 |
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| jaypipes | mriedem: the problem with server groups has *always* been how to handle changes in the group over time. | 15:57 |
| sean-k-mooney | mriedem: yes more of dynamcally created one though | 15:57 |
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| mriedem | sean-k-mooney: now you're just talking sci fi | 15:58 |
| mriedem | :) | 15:58 |
| sean-k-mooney | :) | 15:58 |
| mriedem | don't forget we have to add support for migrating affinity groups as a unit | 15:58 |
| sean-k-mooney | mriedem: that would be an entirely new feature right? currently you cant migrate a group just the instance of a group | 15:59 |
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| sean-k-mooney | that is going to create a lot of headaches if one of the member fails to migrate | 16:00 |
| mriedem | sean-k-mooney: yes entirely new | 16:00 |
| mriedem | sean-k-mooney: let me find some light reading for your evening | 16:00 |
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| mriedem | sean-k-mooney: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/440580/ | 16:01 |
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| mriedem | basically we can spew out scheduler hints from the API so external systems can attempt to coordinate things, or we build something into nova | 16:01 |
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| sean-k-mooney | i see are the sceduler hints corrent stored in the db and this is just exposing them or are we also going start storeing them | 16:02 |
| sean-k-mooney | just reading over it now | 16:02 |
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| mriedem | they are stored | 16:03 |
| mriedem | we don't expose them | 16:03 |
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| sean-k-mooney | ah first line in promblem discription well that make upgrades simplar as we still have the info for exisint server groups | 16:03 |
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| sdague | dansmith / jaypipes - easy +2 | 16:05 |
| sdague | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/459735/ | 16:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: api-ref: move createBackup to server-actions https://review.openstack.org/452971 | 16:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Deprecate Multinic, floatingip action and os-virtual-interface API https://review.openstack.org/457181 | 16:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: 2.43: Remove Location header from createImage and createBackup responses https://review.openstack.org/455443 | 16:06 |
| mriedem | sdague: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/457181/ | 16:07 |
| mriedem | for 2.44 | 16:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: explain payload inheritance in notification devref https://review.openstack.org/453667 | 16:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Add snapshot id to the snapshot notifications https://review.openstack.org/453077 | 16:07 |
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| sdague | mriedem: loking | 16:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: 2.45: Remove Location header from createImage and createBackup responses https://review.openstack.org/455443 | 16:08 |
| jaypipes | sdague: done | 16:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Gábor Antal proposed openstack/nova master: Transform instance.volume_attach.error notification https://review.openstack.org/455801 | 16:11 |
| sdague | mriedem: done | 16:14 |
| sdague | mriedem: one issue on your 2.45 patch I think | 16:14 |
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| sdague | if you want to go look, just left review comments | 16:14 |
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| mriedem | ok | 16:17 |
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| mriedem | replied, i can make a change | 16:19 |
| sdague | mriedem: cool | 16:20 |
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| efried | mriedem These, whenever you get a moment: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/powervm-nova-compute-driver+is:mergeable | 16:25 |
| efried | please and thanks | 16:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Add snapshot id to the snapshot notifications https://review.openstack.org/453077 | 16:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: explain payload inheritance in notification devref https://review.openstack.org/453667 | 16:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: 2.45: Remove Location header from createImage and createBackup responses https://review.openstack.org/455443 | 16:28 |
| mriedem | sdague: ^ | 16:28 |
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| sdague | mriedem: you want to also assert the body is empty? We probably should have done that before | 16:34 |
| sdague | which I was thinking, but apparently forgot to write | 16:35 |
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| mriedem | i suppose i can do that | 16:35 |
| sdague | just so that the 2.45 code doesn't slip back into there | 16:36 |
| sdague | then, I'm +2 for reals | 16:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: 2.45: Remove Location header from createImage and createBackup responses https://review.openstack.org/455443 | 16:44 |
| mriedem | sdague: done ^ | 16:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Gábor Antal proposed openstack/nova master: Add json style checking for sample notifications https://review.openstack.org/443677 | 16:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: WIP/PoC: nova.utils.get_service_url(group) https://review.openstack.org/458257 | 16:55 |
| efried | mordred jaypipes johnthetubaguy If y'all have a few minutes, I'd like to chat about the direction of this ^^ | 16:55 |
| jaypipes | efried: yuppers. it's on my list for today. | 16:56 |
| efried | jaypipes Cool; just updated with some fixes, did some live testing, and I think it's working the way I want, as far as it goes. | 16:56 |
| efried | Before I get any further, I've got some outstanding questions. | 16:57 |
| johnthetubaguy | efried: yeah, my take was lets make all the bits of Nova consistent in our usage, where possible, but it looks like mordred has some alternative ideas | 16:57 |
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| johnthetubaguy | efried: I am about to go and make my dinner in a few mins though, could answer some quick questions | 16:57 |
| efried | johnthetubaguy I think I've isolated mordred's alternatives down to the guts of one private method. | 16:57 |
| efried | What I gathered was that those suggestions involved pieces that weren't quiiite ready for primetime usage. | 16:57 |
| johnthetubaguy | efried: I got a similar vibe | 16:57 |
| efried | So I tried to make it easy for us to swap those in as/if/when they become ready. | 16:57 |
| johnthetubaguy | sounds like a good way forward, on the face of it | 16:58 |
| johnthetubaguy | if we could look like we will use the same config for both approaches, that would be good | 16:58 |
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| efried | johnthetubaguy Oh, yeah, pretty sure that's the deal. | 16:58 |
| efried | But mordred may refute :( | 16:58 |
| johnthetubaguy | I think the config being consistent was my worry | 16:59 |
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| johnthetubaguy | right now we are all over the place | 16:59 |
| efried | Please note (my) review comments on older patch sets, which enumerate some of my questions/concerns. Also some in the code comments & commit message. | 16:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Kaitlin Farr proposed openstack/nova master: Parse algorithm from cipher for ephemeral disk encryption https://review.openstack.org/446072 | 16:59 |
| efried | johnthetubaguy Course, the "all over the place" conf opts will need to be addressed individually, but I think I have a neat approach for handling that. | 17:00 |
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| efried | might be a bit too "out there"... | 17:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: De-complicate some of the instance delete path https://review.openstack.org/458636 | 17:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Move to proper target_cell calling convention https://review.openstack.org/458634 | 17:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Make target_cell() yield a new context https://review.openstack.org/458635 | 17:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Clean up ClientRouter debt https://review.openstack.org/444487 | 17:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: DNM: Canary test against multi-cell devstack https://review.openstack.org/458537 | 17:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | efried: I added some comments, not sure if they help | 17:03 |
| efried | johnthetubaguy Thanks, looking... | 17:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Kaitlin Farr proposed openstack/nova master: Remove deprecated keymgr code https://review.openstack.org/439855 | 17:03 |
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| cfriesen | I'm updating the "flavor info in instance details" commit, and trying to figure out how to handle the new flavor dict in api-ref/source/servers.inc in terms of references to api-ref/source/parameters.yaml. Anyone have suggestions on how to handle the fact that the "flavor" field will now be a dict? | 18:50 |
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| mriedem | cfriesen: so this right? https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/api-ref/source/parameters.yaml#L2192 | 18:54 |
| mriedem | cfriesen: they are both dicts | 18:54 |
| mriedem | so type is still going to be 'object' | 18:54 |
| mriedem | cfriesen: you could handle it one of two ways i think, | 18:54 |
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| mriedem | 1. keep flavor_server and wordsmith the hell out of the description to explain that before microversion x it's a dict with id and links keys, after microversion x it's a dict with a set of other fields | 18:55 |
| mriedem | 2. put max_version on flavor_server to effectively cap it, and add a new parameter with min_version to introduce the new parameter description | 18:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Rick Bartra proposed openstack/nova master: Add policy granularity to the Flavors API https://review.openstack.org/449288 | 18:56 |
| mriedem | cfriesen: the thing is we're probably going to want to also explain, with param descriptions, the fields in the server['flavor'] dict | 18:56 |
| mriedem | those would be separate paramaters, like https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/api-ref/source/parameters.yaml#L2192 | 18:56 |
| mriedem | flavor_ephem_disk, flavor_disk, flavor_is_public, etc | 18:57 |
| mriedem | cfriesen: just some thoughts, sdague might have opinions on this too | 18:57 |
| mriedem | personally i'd lean to ward option 2 | 18:57 |
| mriedem | *toward | 18:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rick Bartra proposed openstack/nova master: Add policy granularity to the Flavors API https://review.openstack.org/449288 | 18:59 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: i'm not sure if we want nullable=True on this build_request.tags field https://review.openstack.org/#/c/459569/1/nova/objects/build_request.py@53 | 19:05 |
| mriedem | but i don't remember the rules | 19:05 |
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| mriedem | it's not for the instance object i guess | 19:06 |
| mriedem | and this should probably mirror that | 19:06 |
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| cfriesen | mriedem: okay, thanks. will proceed assuming option 2 | 19:10 |
| cfriesen | mriedem: can I have two different "flavor_server" parameters in parameters.yaml, one with a min_version and the other with a max_version? or do I need a separately-named parameter? | 19:13 |
| mriedem | cfriesen: they have to have unique names | 19:13 |
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| cfriesen | mriedem: okay, so maybe something like "flavor_server_dict"? | 19:13 |
| mriedem | should also be careful about changing the existing parameter in case it's used somewhere you don't expect, which isn't changing as part of your microversion | 19:14 |
| mriedem | flavor_server is a dict already though | 19:14 |
| cfriesen | true | 19:14 |
| mriedem | assuming you have microversion 2.46, | 19:14 |
| mriedem | maybe flavor_server_2_46? | 19:14 |
| mriedem | which matches the min_version you'll have on it | 19:14 |
| cfriesen | sure. the last one in is 2.43, are there others in progress for 2.44 and 2.45? | 19:15 |
| mriedem | yes | 19:16 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/455443/ | 19:16 |
| cfriesen | kay...will adjust it. | 19:17 |
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| cfriesen | why 2_46 instead of 2.46? | 19:18 |
| mriedem | can you have . in the name? | 19:19 |
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| cfriesen | no idea. :) | 19:19 |
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| cfriesen | I see this: - security_group.name: name | 19:20 |
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| cfriesen | I'm easy either way | 19:20 |
| mriedem | security_group.name is the label in the docs | 19:20 |
| mriedem | which is fine | 19:21 |
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| mriedem | and how we label entries within a dict/object | 19:21 |
| mriedem | but within parameters.yaml i don't know if the names can have . in them | 19:21 |
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| cfriesen | I'll play it safe | 19:22 |
| cfriesen | mriedem: as far as describing the fields in the dict, the volumeAttachment parameter in parameters.yaml just has a text description of the fields in the dict...is that the correct model to follow? | 19:23 |
| mriedem | no | 19:24 |
| mriedem | that's the lazy way | 19:24 |
| mriedem | i recently did something with this, lemme see if i can find it | 19:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova master: compute: Detach volumes on _rebuild_default_impl failure https://review.openstack.org/442105 | 19:25 |
| mriedem | cfriesen: see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/449809/ | 19:26 |
| mriedem | i guess you can have periods and colons and stuff in the parameter names | 19:26 |
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| cfriesen | mriedem: okay, will try that | 19:27 |
| mriedem | that gives you https://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/compute/?expanded=show-server-details-detail#show-server-details | 19:27 |
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| mriedem | so os-extended-volumes:volumes_attached is the top-level array of dicts, | 19:28 |
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| mriedem | and each dict has os-extended-volumes:volumes_attached.id and os-extended-volumes:volumes_attached.delete_on_termination (the latter depending on microversion) | 19:28 |
| mriedem | so "volumes_attached" is a kind of namespace | 19:28 |
| cfriesen | mriedem: is there any way to avoid duplicating it every place that flavor_server is used? (four places in servers.inc) | 19:28 |
| mriedem | and the .<field> suffix is the entry in that dict (namespace) | 19:28 |
| mriedem | well, are you changing all 4 of those places? | 19:29 |
| cfriesen | mriedem: yep...but they're all going to get the same dict....so I don't want to have to define the dict separately in all the places | 19:29 |
| mriedem | i'm not aware of way to do that, unless you just have a single parameter and describe all of the fields in that dict within the single parameter description | 19:30 |
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| mriedem | i'm not totally opposed to that | 19:30 |
| mriedem | sdague: oomichi: ^ thoughts? | 19:31 |
| cfriesen | I don't see any precedent in parameters.yaml to define a dict | 19:31 |
| mriedem | it's all .rst so you can format it nicely with bullets | 19:31 |
| cfriesen | I can give it a shot....which tox test do I run to get the output of this? | 19:31 |
| mriedem | tox -e api-ref | 19:32 |
| mriedem | your flavor dict is going to have what, 7 fields? | 19:32 |
| cfriesen | ish, yeah | 19:32 |
| mriedem | https://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/compute/?expanded=show-server-details-detail,show-flavor-details-detail#id187 minus is_public and disabled | 19:32 |
| mriedem | oh plus extra specs | 19:32 |
| mriedem | so 8 | 19:32 |
| cfriesen | yes | 19:33 |
| mriedem | cfriesen: so maybe just start with a single new parameter | 19:33 |
| mriedem | with the big description detailing each field within it | 19:33 |
| mriedem | and we'll see how that looks | 19:33 |
| cfriesen | it's too bad, because the fields are mostly already described in parameters.yaml | 19:33 |
| cfriesen | but yeah, I'll give it a try | 19:34 |
| mriedem | there might be a way to reference parameters, but idk | 19:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack/nova master: Remove nova-cert https://review.openstack.org/459460 | 19:36 |
| mtreinish | sdague: ^^^ is that what you were looking for? | 19:36 |
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| oomichi | mriedem: I could not get which patch I need to review.. anyways your patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/455443/9/nova/api/openstack/compute/rest_api_version_history.rst has strange HEAD | 19:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mathieu Gagné proposed openstack/nova master: Add ability to signal and perform online volume size change https://review.openstack.org/454322 | 19:41 |
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| mriedem | oomichi: gah! | 19:42 |
| mriedem | oomichi: that was an easter egg for sdague :) | 19:43 |
| oomichi | hehe :) | 19:43 |
| mriedem | i'll fix it up | 19:43 |
| mgagne | now that's challenging when you have multiple changes bumping microversion :D | 19:46 |
| mriedem | yeah it's not fun | 19:47 |
| mriedem | plus novaclient | 19:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Support tag instances when boot(1) https://review.openstack.org/459523 | 19:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Support tag instances when boot(2) https://review.openstack.org/459569 | 19:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: 2.45: Remove Location header from createImage and createBackup responses https://review.openstack.org/455443 | 19:52 |
| mriedem | oomichi: fixed ^ | 19:52 |
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| oomichi | mriedem: sdague is faster than me, +A | 19:55 |
| mriedem | thanks | 19:57 |
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| mriedem | i've got the 2.43 novaclient change up, need to work on 2.44 and then rebase the 2.45 novaclient change | 19:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | melanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: Add FixedIP.get_count_by_project() https://review.openstack.org/446246 | 20:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | melanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: Add get_count_by_vm_state() to Instance object https://review.openstack.org/446244 | 20:06 |
| openstackgerrit | melanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: Add SecurityGroup.get_counts() https://review.openstack.org/446245 | 20:06 |
| openstackgerrit | melanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: Remove 'reserved' count from used limits https://review.openstack.org/446242 | 20:06 |
| openstackgerrit | melanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: Remove useless quota_usage_refresh from nova-manage https://review.openstack.org/446243 | 20:06 |
| openstackgerrit | melanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: Count server groups to check quota https://review.openstack.org/446240 | 20:06 |
| openstackgerrit | melanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: Count networks to check quota https://review.openstack.org/446241 | 20:06 |
| openstackgerrit | melanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: Count instances to check quota https://review.openstack.org/416521 | 20:06 |
| openstackgerrit | melanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: Add InstanceGroup.get_counts() https://review.openstack.org/457857 | 20:06 |
| openstackgerrit | melanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: Add check_deltas() and limit_check_project_and_user() to Quotas https://review.openstack.org/446239 | 20:06 |
| openstackgerrit | melanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: Add InstanceGroup._remove_members_in_db https://review.openstack.org/457858 | 20:06 |
| openstackgerrit | melanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: Count server group members to check quota https://review.openstack.org/457859 | 20:06 |
| openstackgerrit | melanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: Count security groups to check quota https://review.openstack.org/457860 | 20:06 |
| openstackgerrit | melanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: Make Quotas object favor the API database https://review.openstack.org/410945 | 20:06 |
| openstackgerrit | melanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: Count fixed ips to check quota https://review.openstack.org/457861 | 20:06 |
| openstackgerrit | melanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: Add online migration to move quotas to API database https://review.openstack.org/410946 | 20:06 |
| openstackgerrit | melanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: Count floating ips to check quota https://review.openstack.org/457862 | 20:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova master: Update doc/source/process.rst https://review.openstack.org/457888 | 20:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rick Bartra proposed openstack/nova master: Add policy granularity to the Flavors API https://review.openstack.org/449288 | 20:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ildiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova master: Add Cinder v3 detach call to post_live_migration https://review.openstack.org/456988 | 20:36 |
| cfriesen | maybe an odd question...but has anyone ever considered that it doesn't really make sense to rebuild a boot-from-volume instance to a new image since we don't overwrite the volume contents but we do change the reported image in the instance details. | 20:41 |
| cfriesen | seems like either we should overwrite the volume contents or else we should disallow rebuilding to a different image | 20:41 |
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| mriedem | cfriesen: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/?field.searchtext=rebuild%20boot%20from%20volume&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch=&field.has_no | 20:48 |
| mriedem | kage=&orderby=-datecreated&start=0 | 20:48 |
| mriedem | known issue | 20:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: 2.44: Deprecate multinic/floatingIP actions and os-virtual-interfaces https://review.openstack.org/459859 | 20:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: 2.44: Deprecate multinic/floatingIP actions and os-virtual-interfaces https://review.openstack.org/459859 | 20:56 |
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| cfriesen | mriedem: is that the openstack equivalent of lmgtfy? :) | 20:58 |
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| mriedem | cfriesen: not necessarily | 21:00 |
| mriedem | i just know there are known bugs with rebuild + bfv | 21:00 |
| cfriesen | mriedem: looks like https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1482040 is what we ran into | 21:00 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1482040 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "rebuild volume-backed instance with image" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Akira KAMIO (kamio) | 21:00 |
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| cfriesen | seems to me that we should either make it work "properly" or else disallow rebuild with a different image. otherwise the results are unexpected. | 21:04 |
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| mriedem | cfriesen: i don't disagree | 21:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | dane-fichter proposed openstack/nova master: Add trusted certificates to InstanceExtras https://review.openstack.org/457711 | 21:24 |
| mriedem | dansmith: +2 on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/437424/ if you want to +W | 21:25 |
| dansmith | mriedem: done thanks | 21:33 |
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| cfriesen | I'm running into issues adding a new test to tests/unit/api/openstack/compute/test_serversV21.py....see http://paste.openstack.org/show/607927/ for details, but it's choking trying to load instance tags. Do I need to add tags myself? | 21:38 |
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| cfriesen | or should I just mock out Instance._load_tags() or something? | 21:39 |
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| mriedem | rebase? | 21:42 |
| mriedem | i'm not sure why that would fail unless you changed something to trigger it | 21:42 |
| cfriesen | mriedem: I think it's that tags were added in 2.26, and so the "core" code doesn't handle them | 21:43 |
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| mriedem | well, what do similar tests after 2.26 do? | 21:44 |
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| cfriesen | there's only 2.38, which only checks the "invalid" case and so bypasses the issue | 21:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: 2.43: Deprecate novaclient /os-hosts usage https://review.openstack.org/459496 | 21:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: 2.44: Deprecate multinic/floatingIP actions and os-virtual-interfaces https://review.openstack.org/459859 | 21:45 |
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| cfriesen | I'm attempting to mock out Instance._load_tags since I don't care about tags | 21:47 |
| mriedem | cfriesen: is it a NoDBTestCase? | 21:48 |
| mriedem | otherwise just set fake tags on your test instance | 21:48 |
| mriedem | instance.tags = objects.TagList() | 21:48 |
| mriedem | something like htat | 21:48 |
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| cfriesen | mriedem: no, it's a child of ControllerTest. I'm using the default fake instances so the creation is buried down somewhere in the parent class. | 21:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: 2.45: createImage/createBackup image_id is in response body https://review.openstack.org/457008 | 21:52 |
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| jaypipes | hey dansmith and mriedem, if you have a chance to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/457782/, that would be great. | 22:35 |
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| dansmith | jaypipes: ah yeah that looks like something I want to review. I will save it for tomorrow but hit me up if I "forget" | 23:05 |
| jaypipes | np | 23:06 |
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| jaypipes | thanks man | 23:06 |
| jaypipes | dansmith: before you go.. | 23:06 |
| dansmith | k see ya by | 23:06 |
| jaypipes | does RH or Fedora have packages for placement API? | 23:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Friesen proposed openstack/nova master: show flavor info in server details https://review.openstack.org/434514 | 23:06 |
| jaypipes | dansmith: ^ | 23:06 |
| dansmith | jaypipes: I like how you ask that as if I know | 23:06 |
| jaypipes | heh, ok | 23:06 |
| dansmith | lemme see if I can find out quickly | 23:07 |
| jaypipes | thx duder | 23:07 |
| dansmith | jaypipes: https://www.rdoproject.org/documentation/package-list/ | 23:07 |
| dansmith | jaypipes: search for placement on that page | 23:07 |
| dansmith | openstack-nova-placement | 23:07 |
| jaypipes | dansmith: ty sir. | 23:07 |
| dansmith | I can go now? | 23:07 |
| jaypipes | yup :) | 23:08 |
| jaypipes | night | 23:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Friesen proposed openstack/nova master: show flavor info in server details https://review.openstack.org/434514 | 23:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: api-ref: Fix parameters in servers-action-console-output https://review.openstack.org/458713 | 23:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: api-ref: Use 'note' directive https://review.openstack.org/458717 | 23:52 |
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