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| mikal | mriedem: you still around? | 00:37 |
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| mriedem | mikal: sort of | 03:39 |
| mikal | mriedem: I posted a devref update for you, but I'm not really clear on what you think it should cover so I'm not sure it hits the mark | 03:39 |
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| mikal | mriedem: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/429431/ | 03:40 |
| mriedem | mikal: cool. was just looking for some words on features you added in ocata related to vendordata, like the service user stuff, the config to blow up on spawn, etc | 03:41 |
| mriedem | nothing major | 03:41 |
| mikal | mriedem: why would that be in the devref though and not the user guide? | 03:41 |
| mriedem | i've just been in this mode of documenting some of the related config stuff for these features because we've been doing it with the cells and placement docs too | 03:41 |
| mikal | mriedem: do we now describe all features in the devref? | 03:41 |
| mriedem | mikal: because we don't have a user guide :) | 03:41 |
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| mriedem | mikal: the devref gets a lot more current traction yes | 03:41 |
| mikal | mriedem: ok, well I'll do an update when I get out of this mandatory training course | 03:42 |
| mriedem | thanks | 03:42 |
| mriedem | i've found that when we tell people to doc stuff and that means external to nova, it's essentially meaning it's never going to happen | 03:42 |
| mriedem | the nova devref is also indexed in the docs.o.o search so from my pov it's kind of all the same at this point | 03:43 |
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| mikal | Ok | 03:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Handle InstanceInvalidState for os-assisted-volume-snapshots https://review.openstack.org/429476 | 03:45 |
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| alex_xu | Kevin_Zheng: fyi, the reno part of this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/421760/ is separated to another patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/428285/, you just need update the part of api-ref. | 05:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: api-ref: Fix keypair API parameters https://review.openstack.org/420626 | 05:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: api-ref: Fix deprecated proxy API parameters https://review.openstack.org/416882 | 05:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: api-ref: Fix parameters and examples in aggregate API https://review.openstack.org/425512 | 05:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Use ListOfIntegersField in oslo.versionedobjects https://review.openstack.org/423912 | 05:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: api-ref: Fix parameters in os-hosts.inc https://review.openstack.org/416444 | 05:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Refactor a test method including 7 test cases https://review.openstack.org/395436 | 05:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Refactor a test method including 3 test cases https://review.openstack.org/394738 | 05:55 |
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| Kevin_Zheng | alex_xu: thanks | 06:07 |
| alex_xu | Kevin_Zheng: np | 06:07 |
| Kevin_Zheng | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/403568/ could you review this one if you got time? seems a high priority bug | 06:08 |
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| alex_xu | Kevin_Zheng: will check that | 06:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | LIU Yulong proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Reset the instance keypair while rebuilding (spec) https://review.openstack.org/375221 | 06:23 |
| openstackgerrit | LIU Yulong proposed openstack/nova master: Enable reset keypair while rebuilding instance https://review.openstack.org/379128 | 06:23 |
| liuyulong | alex_xu, ^^, can we move on these patch sets? | 06:24 |
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| alex_xu | liuyulong: yes, we can, as Pike is open, just need some reviews on the spec first | 06:25 |
| liuyulong | alex_xu, thanks, :) | 06:26 |
| alex_xu | liuyulong: np :) | 06:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Avoid forcing translation on logging calls https://review.openstack.org/413876 | 06:32 |
| liuyulong | alex_xu, hi, could you please approve this bp https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/rebuild-keypair-reset on pike cycle? | 06:34 |
| liuyulong | alex_xu, and remove the -2 here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/379128/, : ) | 06:35 |
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| alex_xu | liuyulong: I will remove -2 after the spec approved. The BP only can be approved after the spec approved | 06:36 |
| liuyulong | alex_xu, got it, thanks. | 06:36 |
| alex_xu | liuyulong: np | 06:37 |
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| litao | alex_xu: I left some comments in my path | 06:57 |
| alex_xu | litao: actually the updated_at you seen in the API isn't the heartbeat timestamp | 06:58 |
| alex_xu | litao: for db driver, the 'last_seen_up' is the field for that https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/servicegroup/drivers/db.py#L60 | 06:59 |
| alex_xu | litao: the updated_at's meaning actually changed by this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/163060/26 | 07:01 |
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| litao | alex_xu: I think you meaning is just to decide the status of a service using 'last_seen_up' | 07:03 |
| litao | alex_xu: I meaning the display of 'nova service-list | 07:04 |
| litao | ' | 07:04 |
| alex_xu | litao: no, I mean the meanning of 'updated_at' is for that | 07:04 |
| litao | alex_xu: but the output of 'nova service-list' will display the column | 07:05 |
| litao | alex_xu: updated_at | 07:05 |
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| alex_xu | litao: yes, 'updated_at' means 'the timestamp when db record of service updated' | 07:06 |
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| litao | so i think the value should be updated regardless of db or mc driver | 07:07 |
| litao | alex_xu: If it retains for a long time not to update, it will give us a doubt that is the service really up? | 07:08 |
| alex_xu | litao: the patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/163060/ separate the db record update time and the heartbeat update time. After that patch 'updated_at' means db record time. Maybe we can have another field for heartbeat timestamp, but i'm not sure | 07:09 |
| alex_xu | litao: yes, but | 07:09 |
| alex_xu | 'updated_at' isn't for determine whether the service is up | 07:09 |
| alex_xu | 'last_seen_at' and your change for mc is for determine that, but that isn't expose in the API | 07:10 |
| litao | alex_xu: but i think it should be same as db drvier to be updated since it presents to us | 07:11 |
| litao | alex_xu: or remove it when using mc driver | 07:11 |
| alex_xu | litao: db driver didn't update 'updated_at' also | 07:12 |
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| litao | alex_xu: it does | 07:13 |
| alex_xu | litao: there is field 'State' for determine whether service is up, why you need to lookup another timestamp? | 07:13 |
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| litao | alex_xu: I mean that it just a display, not to determine the state of a service | 07:14 |
| litao | alex_xu: I just want to display the same output of 'nova service-list' when using mc driver | 07:15 |
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| alex_xu | litao: emm...I see now, it will update. sorry, I missed that. But it still didn't equal to the your change for the mc driver I think | 07:20 |
| alex_xu | litao: for db driver, 'updated_at' mixes db record update and heartbeat update. | 07:21 |
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| litao | alex_xu: yes, so what do you think to deal it? | 07:24 |
| alex_xu | litao: I just comment on the patch | 07:24 |
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| litao | alex_xu: thanks | 09:01 |
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| FransUrbo | I'm trying to figure out why my second primary servers services won't come up. They're listed as 'down' with OSC, but the 'service:updated_at' column have been updated very recently - https://gist.github.com/FransUrbo/a24e99a331c2a252ecdc76a5c6f12b20 (that's for Cinder, but Nova shows the same problem). | 10:24 |
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| FransUrbo | https://gist.github.com/FransUrbo/e11eb9d9311790c63729f16e108dbb1f (for nova) | 10:26 |
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| BobBall | johnthetubaguy: Are you happy with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/424428/ ? Clearly the change missed RC1 but I'd love to get it in RC2 if we can get reviews soon | 10:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | BobBall: we spoke about it being eligible for RC2 on friday evening | 10:30 |
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| johnthetubaguy | BobBall: got my head in a spec right now, once my head is out of that, I will take a peak at it | 10:30 |
| BobBall | Yeah - I spotted the change in the etherpad too. Awesome, thanks! | 10:30 |
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| johnthetubaguy | no worries, it would be a shame for that bug to stick around another release | 10:31 |
| BobBall | Indeed. Getting the fix in is my priority ATM so let me know what I need to do. | 10:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Bob Ball proposed openstack/nova master: XenAPI: fix memory usage miscalculation https://review.openstack.org/394857 | 10:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: update the active migrations DS to support migration result https://review.openstack.org/409260 | 11:05 |
| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: ensure live-migration success https://review.openstack.org/409261 | 11:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: api-ref: Fix network_label parameter type https://review.openstack.org/429659 | 11:39 |
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| artom_ | In the api samples tests, if the response template doesn't exit, it's created with the response data | 11:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova-specs master: WIP: Spec idea on the future of quotas for Nova https://review.openstack.org/429678 | 12:45 |
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| johnthetubaguy | BobBall: looks good to me | 12:58 |
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| BobBall | Thanks johnthetubaguy | 13:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Timofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova master: abort_live_migration remove redundant check https://review.openstack.org/304621 | 13:45 |
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| mriedem | BobBall: i'm in a timewarp http://dd6b71949550285df7dc-dda4e480e005aaa13ec303551d2d8155.r49.cf1.rackcdn.com/76/429476/1/check/dsvm-tempest-neutron-network/00891c1//index.html | 13:56 |
| mriedem | clicking logs takes me to a dir that just takes me back | 13:56 |
| BobBall | mriedem: Did you take a jump to the left? And then a step to the right? | 13:56 |
| mriedem | i forgot those steps | 13:57 |
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| bauzas | folks, FYI, will mostly be afk this week because I'm organizing a local conf named http://snowcamp.io/ | 13:57 |
| bauzas | with ttx keynoting :p | 13:58 |
| BobBall | mriedem: It looks like the rest of the logs didn't upload curiously | 13:58 |
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| BobBall | mriedem: Received disconnect from 192.168.33.2: 2: Packet corrupt <-- or there were no other logs. | 13:58 |
| BobBall | mriedem: that test run didn't even get to the point of running devstack | 13:58 |
| edleafe- | Scheduler subteam meeting in 1 minute over in #openstack-meeting-alt | 13:59 |
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| mriedem | BobBall: ok i just rechecked it | 13:59 |
| BobBall | mriedem: We do put "run_tests.log" in both directories... which is perhaps unhelpful. | 13:59 |
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| ttx | \o/ and fresh snow | 14:00 |
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| bauzas | ttx: zactly, 30cm waiting for you ;) | 14:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Timofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova master: nfs fix for xenial images https://review.openstack.org/329466 | 14:05 |
| kashyap | sdague: Heya, random ping -- someone (a Kernel developer, actually) at FOSDEM asked me yesterday: Why DevStack, why not...just use 'Gentoo'. They were serious :-) | 14:06 |
| sdague | kashyap: :) | 14:06 |
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| sdague | sounds like they never actually looked into the issue | 14:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: console: Move proxies to 'console/proxy' https://review.openstack.org/408192 | 14:07 |
| kashyap | sdague: Yeah, right. But they were not really mean or anything, just thinking out loud | 14:07 |
| kashyap | sdague: I explained them, also the reason why it's shell script (that a human / admin / operator should be able to read it, etc). | 14:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: conf: Deprecate two more nova-net options https://review.openstack.org/412390 | 14:10 |
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| mriedem | superdan: first, where is dansmith | 14:23 |
| mriedem | superdan: second, alex_xu and i have comments in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/428824/ | 14:23 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: okay coffee then that | 14:32 |
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| mriedem | manila also reported a bug that the change for multi-cell instance listing broke them https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1659391 but so far i'm not able to find a job that failed due to that to debug it, | 14:34 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1659391 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Server list API does not show scheduled servers that are not assigned to any cell" [Undecided,New] | 14:34 |
| mriedem | plus the description is overly confusing with references to cells being disabled and default cells, which really throws me off | 14:34 |
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| dansmith | hmm, okay | 14:38 |
| dansmith | mriedem: well the description says that after that change, nova only returns instances assigned to cells | 14:39 |
| dansmith | which is 100% true :) | 14:39 |
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| mriedem | yeah i left some more questions, it's not clear to me if the server they are creating is done before simple_cell_setup or not | 14:40 |
| dansmith | like before an upgrade you mean? | 14:40 |
| mriedem | "It can be seen when cell feature and services are disabled and default cell hasn't been created yet. In this case all Nova VMs hang in scheduled state and cannot be viewed." | 14:41 |
| mriedem | i was just asking wtf that meant | 14:41 |
| mriedem | but it looks like simple_cell_setup is run first http://logs.openstack.org/37/426737/12/check/gate-manila-tempest-dsvm-generic-no-share-servers-ubuntu-xenial-nv/064f0da/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2017-02-02_13_41_26_166 | 14:41 |
| mriedem | and then they create a server later http://logs.openstack.org/37/426737/12/check/gate-manila-tempest-dsvm-generic-no-share-servers-ubuntu-xenial-nv/064f0da/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2017-02-02_13_45_01_035 | 14:42 |
| dansmith | well, the first part of that sentence isn't valid either | 14:42 |
| mriedem | i think they mean cells v1 | 14:42 |
| dansmith | this is one of the reasons I wish we had used a different name than cells | 14:43 |
| mriedem | but yeah that totally threw me off when first reading this | 14:43 |
| dansmith | there's a lot of confusion that has stemmed from that decision | 14:43 |
| mriedem | having said all that, the whole 'what don't you get about this bug' attitude in the report makes me kind of not care either | 14:43 |
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| mriedem | unless it's not unique to them | 14:44 |
| dansmith | yeah | 14:44 |
| dansmith | the change they're referencing has been in for like three weeks now right? | 14:44 |
| mriedem | maybe i'll just revert their workaround and see if it fails on the same thing again and then debug from there | 14:44 |
| mriedem | yeah, landed on 1/24 and they worked around it on 1/28 it looks like | 14:45 |
| dansmith | doubt anyone else has had their gate completely shutdown for three weeks | 14:45 |
| sfinucan | There's probably a much better solution, but hacky hack for opening a Python module path in vim https://that.guru/blog/open-python-paths-with-vim/ | 14:45 |
| dansmith | and just before rc2 they bring it up.. nice | 14:45 |
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| mriedem | the bug was actually reported awhile ago | 14:47 |
| mriedem | 1/25 | 14:47 |
| mriedem | the day after your change landed https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1659391 | 14:47 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1659391 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Server list API does not show scheduled servers that are not assigned to any cell" [Undecided,New] | 14:47 |
| mriedem | we just don't triage our bugs | 14:47 |
| mriedem | eharney: not sure if you saw https://review.openstack.org/#/c/429476/ but if you have that recreate env for your nfs volume snapshot issue, it'd be cool if you could test that against a paused vm, because i'm not sure if that will work or not | 14:49 |
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| eharney | mriedem: i'll give it a shot | 14:52 |
| mriedem | eharney: thanks | 14:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Update the upgrades part of devref https://review.openstack.org/428824 | 14:55 |
| dansmith | mriedem: ah, okay | 14:56 |
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| macsz | bauzas: i might be late, 5min tops | 14:58 |
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| bauzas | macsz: no worries, I'll write up an etherpad | 14:59 |
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| macsz | bauzas: back | 15:04 |
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| macsz | bauzas: sorry, hit the heavy traffic and was driving while the meeting was on - which etherpad? | 15:08 |
| bauzas | macsz: just started https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-scheduler-pike | 15:08 |
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| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: you were +2 on PS1, are you still happy with this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/428824/ | 15:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pavel Gluschak (scsnow) proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Runtime image type detection https://review.openstack.org/429745 | 15:13 |
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| bauzas | mriedem: FWIW, I'm totally fine with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/428824/ | 15:20 |
| mriedem | bauzas: i thought you were supposed to be teaching kids about devops while skiing down a mountain or something? | 15:21 |
| bauzas | mriedem: starting Wed :) | 15:21 |
| mriedem | wtf | 15:21 |
| mriedem | you told everyone like 5 times you'd be gone in 25 minutes | 15:21 |
| bauzas | heh | 15:21 |
| bauzas | nah, just went to school for $daughter but back | 15:21 |
| mriedem | oh i see | 15:21 |
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| bauzas | now, I need some homework support | 15:22 |
| bauzas | but | 15:22 |
| bauzas | I'm still around | 15:22 |
| bauzas | and starting Wed, will be off because of a conference | 15:22 |
| mriedem | ok, well i'm leaving for a couple of hours | 15:22 |
| * bauzas is sorry for "live my life" discussions :) | 15:23 | |
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| mriedem | heh | 15:23 |
| mriedem | i just can't keep up with your active schedule | 15:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Emilien Macchi proposed openstack/nova master: DNM - test tripleo without nova api in WSGI/apache https://review.openstack.org/429008 | 15:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova-specs master: WIP: Spec idea on the future of quotas for Nova https://review.openstack.org/429678 | 15:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Reserve migration placeholders for Ocata backports https://review.openstack.org/427900 | 15:40 |
| dansmith | we should probably merge this now ^ | 15:41 |
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| diga | bauzas: Hi | 15:45 |
| diga | bauzas: sorry got delay due to dinner | 15:45 |
| macsz | diga: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-scheduler-pike | 15:45 |
| diga | macsz: okay, will go through it | 15:46 |
| diga | macsz: I dont know if someone is working on Ironic side | 15:48 |
| diga | macsz: but its essential thing | 15:48 |
| jroll | diga: macsz: we plan o figure out that upgrade path problem at PTG sometime, if that's what you're asking about | 15:54 |
| macsz | jroll: that answers the question :) | 15:54 |
| jroll | :D | 15:54 |
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| mdbooth | lyarwood: Incidentally, it turns out your swap_volume patch is required for my nfs patch. I was seeing a log warning from my patch about unmounting a volume which supposedly wasn't mounted. Turns out the root cause was swap_volume disconnecting the wrong volume. | 16:04 |
| mdbooth | Rebased my change on yours and the problem goes away. | 16:04 |
| diana_clarke | Does anyone know off the top of their head how to run the functional mysql nova tests locally? Environment variables, etc? | 16:04 |
| lyarwood | mdbooth: ah nice | 16:04 |
| mdbooth | lyarwood: Well, does in my testing, anyway. I should push the rebase and re-run ci. | 16:04 |
| diga | jroll: Yep | 16:06 |
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| mdbooth | lyarwood: Mind if I rebase swap_volume, btw? | 16:10 |
| mdbooth | I have a minor clash with your findmnt change, which merged after the base of your swap_volume change | 16:11 |
| mdbooth | So it would be convenient to me to have both. | 16:11 |
| lyarwood | mdbooth: nope, go ahead | 16:11 |
| mdbooth | Thanks | 16:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: Reconnect volumes and encryptors during a hard reboot https://review.openstack.org/400384 | 16:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: Remove redundant bdm serial mangling and saving during swap_volume https://review.openstack.org/427364 | 16:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: Fix races with nfs volume mount/umount https://review.openstack.org/383859 | 16:13 |
| lyarwood | mdbooth: ^ that's another small change that takes a while to get your head around if you have any time tomorrow to review | 16:14 |
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| dansmith | melwitt: wanna look this over? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/429056/ | 16:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pushkar Umaranikar proposed openstack/nova master: [WIP] Placement api: Add json_error_formatter to defaults https://review.openstack.org/395194 | 16:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: update the active migrations DS to support migration result https://review.openstack.org/409260 | 16:31 |
| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: ensure live-migration success https://review.openstack.org/409261 | 16:31 |
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| melwitt | dansmith: done | 16:32 |
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| dansmith | melwitt: thanks | 16:32 |
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| dansmith | melwitt: cdent: FWIW, the reason I used a naked "placement" is because I'm referring to placement api, service, database, catalog entry, etc as a group | 16:35 |
| dansmith | "placement service" would be fine too, but... that was my thought process | 16:35 |
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| cdent | dansmith: yeah, thus the "fine as is". I think "service" is a nice to have, because it's hard to be sure that "placement" on its own is a proper noun and not just some random thing, like layout of the knives and forks on the table. | 16:36 |
| melwitt | dansmith: I see, thanks for clarifying. that makes it make a lot more sense | 16:37 |
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| pumaranikar | cdent, johnthetubaguy https://review.openstack.org/#/c/395194/ updated patchset for json error formatter. can you please quickly review and let me know that this is what we are expecting. ? | 16:39 |
| edleafe | cdent: Capitalization maybe? E.g.: 'placement' (random thing) vs. 'Placement' (the resource thingy) | 16:39 |
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| cdent | edleafe: because it is new, I'm still not certain that's enough. All of us here think of it as this well known things, but it is not. | 16:39 |
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| edleafe | true | 16:41 |
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| cdent | pumaranikar: yeah, that looks like a good way to go assuming it works well. How do you feel about it? | 16:48 |
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| pumaranikar | cdent, thanks for quick review. Yes it will work. Only thing is we need to modify decorator everywhere | 16:49 |
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| pumaranikar | cdent, thats why I thought of middleware initially. | 16:50 |
| cdent | that's okay, I think, as it is a pretty simple change and in any case, no matter how we add, we have to change a bunch of files to remove the keyword arg from all the raised exceptions | 16:50 |
| cdent | I think to get a middleware version that actually worked properly would be considerably more complex (because of the need to parse headers and some response bodies) | 16:51 |
| pumaranikar | cdent, yes. that makes sense. | 16:51 |
| pumaranikar | cdent, i will try to update this today in all places. | 16:52 |
| cdent | pumaranikar: you could consider doing a stack of changes where you change each file in handlers/*.py in a different patch | 16:52 |
| pumaranikar | cdent, yes good idea. It would be easy for review. | 16:53 |
| * cdent nods | 16:53 | |
| pumaranikar | cdent, are we ok with class name in wrapper file ? :) | 16:55 |
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| cdent | I think it is good enough. If people don't like it we can change it easily enough during the review process | 16:56 |
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| pumaranikar | cdent, ok. Will let you know once i make changes atleast in all allocations related actions | 16:57 |
| cdent | cool, looking forward to it | 16:58 |
| edleafe | cdent: First pass at functional code paths for placement testing: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-placement-functional | 16:58 |
| edleafe | cdent: Now to disappear into meetings | 16:58 |
| cdent | edleafe: cool, I'll look at that either this evening or tomorrow morning | 16:58 |
| edleafe | cdent: thanks. Just wanted to get something down before I got sucked into other things | 16:59 |
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| cdent | ✔ | 16:59 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: the revert on that manila change passed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/429729/ :) | 17:03 |
| mriedem | so i guess it's already fixed... | 17:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Handle InstanceInvalidState for os-assisted-volume-snapshots https://review.openstack.org/429476 | 17:16 |
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| mriedem | alex_xu: gmann: oomichi: i'm asserting that we don't need a microversion change for ^ but open to being correct | 17:19 |
| mriedem | *corrected | 17:19 |
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| cfriesen | mriedem: what about a suspended guest? | 17:28 |
| mriedem | cfriesen: i guess we do allow that for regular snapshots | 17:29 |
| mriedem | i thought something was wonky with suspended instances in a volume-backed instance flow, but might be thinking of something else | 17:30 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: nice | 17:33 |
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| mriedem | cfriesen: ooo i actually had that backward | 17:37 |
| mriedem | cfriesen: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/9ae5b2306b7a7cc9e77c77292256b13926920ead/nova/compute/api.py#L2805 | 17:37 |
| mriedem | we only allow active/stopped/suspended for volume-backed snapshot in the "normal" flow | 17:37 |
| mriedem | so i'll change my patch to follow that | 17:38 |
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| cfriesen | mriedem: do we not support paused because we don't bother quiescing the disk first? | 17:40 |
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| mriedem | it does quiesce, https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/9ae5b2306b7a7cc9e77c77292256b13926920ead/nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py#L1913 | 17:42 |
| mriedem | and if that fails, it snapshots w/o quiesce | 17:42 |
| mriedem | so maybe paused would work too, | 17:42 |
| mriedem | i just haven't tested it | 17:42 |
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| mriedem | i'd have to get a devstack + nfs plugin setup to test this out, which would take some time | 17:43 |
| dansmith | someone should hit this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427981/ | 17:43 |
| dansmith | last doc change on the books for rc2 | 17:43 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: this is on the list for rc2...should I spend time reviewing it or what? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/424428/ | 17:44 |
| mriedem | dansmith: yeah | 17:44 |
| cfriesen | mriedem: I meant quiesce before pausing...since otherwise there could potentially be data loss in the snapshot....but maybe we'd get the same with suspend. I don't know enough about qemu behaviour in pause vs suspend | 17:44 |
| mriedem | oh before pause, | 17:45 |
| mriedem | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/9ae5b2306b7a7cc9e77c77292256b13926920ead/nova/virt/libvirt/guest.py#L566 | 17:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova master: Default live_migration_progress_timeout to off https://review.openstack.org/429798 | 17:46 |
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| praveen | Hi mriedem , One help! | 17:47 |
| praveen | There is an observation.. Lets suppose project quota for max number of vms is set as 5. 3 Vms are already up and running into that project. Now, when user triggers another 3 Vms at one go as multiple deployment then 2 vms gets deployed succesfully but another VM does not.. which is correct because of quota error... But there is no indication/error message which gets shown into logs or UI..... | 17:47 |
| praveen | ...Is this the way multipe server create behaves? | 17:47 |
| praveen | I found below lines in compute API reference wiki - Not sure if it says same thing ?? | 17:47 |
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| praveen | "Error handling for multiple create is not as consistent as for single server create, and there is no guarantee that all the servers will be built. This call should generally be avoided in favor of clients doing direct individual server creates." | 17:47 |
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| mriedem | cfriesen: i always get confused between paused and suspended with qemu | 17:47 |
| mriedem | since the code for pause in nova calls suspend on the domain | 17:47 |
| mriedem | https://wiki.libvirt.org/page/VM_lifecycle#States_that_a_guest_domain_can_be_in | 17:47 |
| cfriesen | mriedem: okay, so pause just immediately suspends the domain, while suspend does a managedSave on the domain. | 17:47 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: pkoniszewski: I wonder if we should look at getting the above change into RC2 https://review.openstack.org/429798 causes live-migration failures, some stress testing we were doing just hit this bug. | 17:48 |
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| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: when was live_migration_progress_timeout added? | 17:49 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: I will check, I thought it was a while ago | 17:50 |
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| cfriesen | mriedem: 2015, by dbp. git commit da33ab4f | 17:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Handle InstanceInvalidState for os-assisted-volume-snapshots https://review.openstack.org/429476 | 17:51 |
| mriedem | cfriesen: johnthetubaguy: yeah so since liberty | 17:52 |
| mriedem | cfriesen: cburgess: are either of you using live_migration_progress_timeout ? are you at liberty or newer yet? | 17:52 |
| cfriesen | mriedem: we're on Mitaka, using: | 17:54 |
| cfriesen | live_migration_progress_timeout=150 | 17:54 |
| cfriesen | live_migration_completion_timeout=800 | 17:54 |
| melwitt | cfriesen, mriedem: for the regular snapshot path (not snapshot_volume_backed), there's code that saves the memory state of the domain if it's in PAUSED state. that's why PAUSED is okay for snapshot but not for snapshot_volume_backed, I think https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py#L1637-L1642 | 17:54 |
| mriedem | praveen: is min_count provided with the server create request? | 17:56 |
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| mriedem | praveen: this is the code that handles quota checks and reservations when creating instances https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/9ae5b2306b7a7cc9e77c77292256b13926920ead/nova/compute/api.py#L299 | 17:56 |
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| praveen | no i guess | 17:56 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: the bug gives interesting details, basically its broken and never did much other than spot false positives, it would seem | 17:56 |
| mriedem | praveen: i don't know without recreating, but assume if you want 3 you need to specify min_count=3 | 17:57 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: i'm hesitant to make that kind of change in rc2 for a thing that's been around since liberty | 17:57 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: this just turns off a thing that randomly makes live-migrate fail, all the old timeouts still trigger as before | 17:58 |
| praveen | mriedem: Thanks. We are setting "max_count" to 3. | 17:59 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: most folks don't hit it, because they do shared storage, so their live-migrations take less that 150 seconds, or at least thats what its looking like | 17:59 |
| praveen | mriedem: i will check with "min_count" . | 18:00 |
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| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: for ocata rc2, if you have updated wording for the config option with a known issue reno or something, i'm more comfortable with that | 18:00 |
| mriedem | i.e. "if you're not using shared storage, this could cause issues, see bug" | 18:01 |
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| cfriesen | johnthetubaguy: if it's hitting that check doesn't that mean it hasn't transferred data for a substantial amount of time? | 18:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: yeah, that makes sense, I am cooking the reno now, with more context in the git commit message | 18:01 |
| mriedem | dansmith: backports are up for those 2 merged docs changes | 18:01 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/ocata | 18:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | cfriesen: more details are in the bug, basically we are miss-interpreting the data we get back from QEMU, so it might be making progress and we still think it hasn't | 18:02 |
| dansmith | mriedem: ack | 18:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | cfriesen: that and during block_migration, we are busy, but will show no progress (apparently, anyways) | 18:02 |
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| cfriesen | johnthetubaguy: mriedem: it looks like locally we changed it to use info.data_processed rather than info.data_remaining | 18:05 |
| melwitt | dansmith: are you working on the bfv patch today or do you mind if I hack on it? assuming it's still on the nice-to-have list for rc2 | 18:05 |
| dansmith | melwitt: I'm not, so go for it | 18:05 |
| mriedem | cfriesen: you and your local hacks | 18:05 |
| melwitt | dansmith: cool, thanks | 18:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | cfriesen: oh, that might work better, although I think data_processed can be bigger that the total, which means you might never hit the timeout, but I am not sure. | 18:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | cfriesen: that might support just turning it off quickly though, I guess | 18:06 |
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| cfriesen | johnthetubaguy: mriedem: we're basically just checking whether we've transferred some data since last time. I think it'd be better to check forward progress on the disk or the RAM since it doesn't help if you're transferring data but not keeping up with the rate of dirtying. | 18:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | cfriesen: pkoniszewski added lots of details in the bug, but there are other issues in there too it seems | 18:08 |
| mriedem | mdbooth: just fyi, you don't need this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/395709/ | 18:09 |
| mriedem | mdbooth: we have the nfs job in nova's experimental queue | 18:09 |
| mriedem | to run it on your change, just leave a comment with "check experimental" | 18:09 |
| cfriesen | johnthetubaguy: I had originally commented on https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1583145, but that was marked as a dupe of 1644248. | 18:09 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1644248 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "duplicate for #1583145 Nova incorrectly tracks live migration progress" [High,Confirmed] | 18:09 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: questions in here, maybe you can explain them away? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/424428/8 | 18:10 |
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| cfriesen | mriedem: johnthetubaguy: based on the commit message, the intent was to try to detect the case where the guest is dirtying faster than we can keep up and abort it rather than wait till the overall migration timeout expires. | 18:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: replied with the horrible truth on the nicera thing, but agreed with your test issue, not sure how that would work | 18:13 |
| cfriesen | mriedem: johnthetubaguy: Ideally what we'd want is whether the full amount of data to transfer calculated by qemu at the beginning of each iteration is going down....not sure there's any way to get that though. | 18:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | cfriesen: right, thats what pkoniszewski was looking into adding in libvirt and QEMU I think, but thats years away from distros I guess | 18:16 |
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| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: dansmith: fyi that i'm out of here in about a half hour, | 18:17 |
| mriedem | fin | 18:17 |
| dansmith | mriedem: for how long? | 18:19 |
| mriedem | several hours | 18:19 |
| dansmith | ack | 18:20 |
| dansmith | approved | 18:20 |
| mriedem | thank you | 18:20 |
| mriedem | the alarming lack of fires today has made me not care about sitting in front of a computer | 18:20 |
| cfriesen | johnthetubaguy: right, in that case it probably does make sense to remove this in Pike since it doesn't help. | 18:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova master: Default live_migration_progress_timeout to off https://review.openstack.org/429798 | 18:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | cfriesen: does the above description make more sense now ^ | 18:29 |
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| mriedem | melwitt: posted some comments/questions in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427981/ | 18:34 |
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| mriedem | owalsh-afk raises a good point about whether or not the hosts are up (compute_nodes entries created) before running discover_hosts | 18:35 |
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| melwitt | mriedem: thanks. it got approved a couple of minutes earlier. I can do a follow up to address your comments. or maybe roll them into my existing follow up that adds the cells v1 steps https://review.openstack.org/#/c/429075 | 18:38 |
| mriedem | i'd leave the cells v1 patch for just cells v1 and handle additional cleanups in a separate change | 18:39 |
| pkoniszewski | cfriesen: so info.data_remaining is not useful at all, it is not correleted with whole live migration process, but only with a single iteration | 18:39 |
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| pkoniszewski | cfriesen: libvirt would need to expose something like low watermark for the whole process | 18:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova master: placement: RT now adds proper Ironic inventory https://review.openstack.org/404472 | 19:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova master: placement: RT now adds proper Ironic inventory https://review.openstack.org/404472 | 19:09 |
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| cfriesen | johnthetubaguy: pkoniszewski: agreed...reviewing latest now. where there earlier discussions about whether to do complete removal in Pike, or do we still need to decide that? | 19:12 |
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| cfriesen | s/where/were | 19:12 |
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| pkoniszewski | cfriesen: i see no point in keeping broken bits | 19:43 |
| pkoniszewski | and those bits can cause headache to operators | 19:44 |
| jaypipes | pkoniszewski: ++ | 19:48 |
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| cfriesen | pkoniszewski: are you planning on submitting the removal for Pike? If not, I could take it. | 21:08 |
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| oomichi | alex_xu: can you take a look at a critical patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/410006/ ? | 23:39 |
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