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| gus | sdague/smcginnis: currently privsep logging is very simplistic: the privileged process always logs (line-based) to stderr, and the unpriv process reads those lines and writes them to the real oslo.log destination at level=WARN. | 00:28 |
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| gus | (I tried to explain this in the review comments, but obviously failed) | 00:29 |
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| gus | It doesn't need to stay this way, it was just the simplest thing that would work to make progress on all the other high priority things that keep getting raised. | 00:30 |
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| gus | Dropping it to log everything at level=DEBUG (as that patch does) drops *everything* from the privileged process to DEBUG, which means you can't possibly diagnose fatal deployment errors, crashing processes, \etc without debug logging turned on. | 00:31 |
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| gus | *I* feel that's even worse, but I'm happy to make that change if everyone thinks that's important. | 00:32 |
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| gus | The real fix is almost as easy - we just need to switch to something that can preserve the original log level across the priv->unpriv boundary. In the review comments, I suggested either using in-band messages down the regular channel, or writing json-formatted logs to stderr rather than the simple/lossy line-based version. | 00:33 |
| lifeless | +1 on in-band IMO | 00:33 |
| lifeless | I'd treat stderr a alwasy being WARN - or higher - and have regular things use the channel | 00:33 |
| gus | lifeless: yes, I'm leaning that way too, so if unstructured gunk does turn up on stderr (eg: "/usr/bin/python not found" or something out of our control), we can still interpret it and log it usefully. | 00:34 |
| gus | I've been highlighting this for months to the few people who've asked to get involved in privsep development. I can bash out the change this afternoon, but that doesn't help with our meta-problem of everything-privsep having to block on me. | 00:36 |
| gus | sdague/smcginnis: anyway, I hope the above explains why it currently logs everything at WARN, and why I'm against just switching that to DEBUG. It's mostly a repeat of what I'd already said in the review comment however, so I'm here and happy to answer any remaining questions you have. | 00:38 |
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| mikal | gus: Oh, I missed the subtlety here when I reviewed that. I agree that we need something better than just one log level. | 00:48 |
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| gmann | sdake: | 00:49 |
| gmann | sdake: ops, sorry by mistake. | 00:50 |
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| sdake | sup | 00:50 |
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| sdake | did you mean sdague gmann ? | 00:50 |
| gmann | sdake: yea, i was doing tab on it and it juts entered :) | 00:51 |
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| sdake | cool ttyl :) | 00:51 |
| gmann | sdague, johnthetubaguy alex_xu mriedem : what's call on ImageRef things failure for empty string in case of boot from volume - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/338802/ | 00:51 |
| gmann | sdague, johnthetubaguy alex_xu mriedem : it failing on tempest, we cn fix those but m afraid user also using the same way | 00:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova: rt: Refactor resize_claim unit test https://review.openstack.org/349746 | 01:00 |
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| alex_xu | ／window bare | 02:44 |
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| alex_xu | gmann: I guess we need support empty string | 02:49 |
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| gmann | alex_xu: humm, but do we say anywhere that imageRef in boot from volume can be empty string | 02:51 |
| gmann | alex_xu: i feel its usage bug | 02:51 |
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| alex_xu | gmann: not sure we doc that, but it accept that as before | 02:56 |
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| gmann | alex_xu: yea, currently it accept | 03:01 |
| alex_xu | gmann: just found we support url in the glance client wrapper also https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/image/glance.py#L1066 | 03:01 |
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| alex_xu | gmann: that lead to we can input the url in the block_device_mapping | 03:01 |
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| alex_xu | gmann: I feel people often use empty string instead of None, that the reason I think we should continue support empty string | 03:03 |
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| gmann | alex_xu: i think we empty that in case of block_device_mapping - https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/openstack/compute/servers.py#L872 | 03:03 |
| gmann | alex_xu: yea, that is my worry too. if many people using that way | 03:04 |
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| alex_xu | gmann: but we still parse the image_id which come from bdm https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/api.py#L1038 | 03:05 |
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| gmann | alex_xu: yea in case it is assigned a valid UUID(or UUID in url) | 03:09 |
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| gmann | alex_xu: I mean if we do not allow emtpy string then this is fine as user can pass valid UUID for block_device_mapping to get metadata etx | 03:10 |
| gmann | alex_xu: going for lunch, ll catch u later | 03:10 |
| alex_xu | gmann: have a good lunch | 03:13 |
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| alex_xu | gmann: emm...i guess we mix two things together. bdm have a field 'image_id', we should stop it accept the url also. | 03:14 |
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| alex_xu | gmann: then another thing is about empty string | 03:15 |
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| gmann | alex_xu: yea first one is taken care in that patch | 03:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chen Fan proposed openstack/nova: Flavor: correct confusing error message about flavorRef https://review.openstack.org/347745 | 05:10 |
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| maestropandy | hi all | 06:04 |
| ygl | hi all | 06:05 |
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| ygl | can anyone point me to the link in git for nova-api server code ? | 06:05 |
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| ygl | can anyone point me to the link in git for nova-api server code ? | 06:07 |
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| gmann | alex_xu: yea, actually that was the one I was asking whether we need to cleanup or leave as image APIs are deprecated | 06:25 |
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| maestropandy | Hi all, is there nova database are transferable do have API for that ? | 06:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ildiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Allow multiple volume attachments https://review.openstack.org/267587 | 06:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Markus Zoeller (markus_z) proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: virtlogd: use virtlogd for char devices https://review.openstack.org/323765 | 07:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Markus Zoeller (markus_z) proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: simplify "get_console_output" interface https://review.openstack.org/334480 | 07:19 |
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| markus_z | maestropandy: I don't get the question. Do you want to migrate the database to another host? | 07:28 |
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| maestropandy | markus_z: I want to same security group in another tenant either share/transfer | 07:30 |
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| maestropandy | markus_z: sorry dont want to transfer, need share or any way to automate same without manual way | 07:31 |
| openstackgerrit | qinchunhua proposed openstack/nova: Remove white space between print and () https://review.openstack.org/337459 | 07:31 |
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| markus_z | maestropandy: I don't know a way to do that. | 07:32 |
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| markus_z | trivial fix needs another +2 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/337459/2 | 07:33 |
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| maestropandy | markus_z: do you have any idea while doing parallel setup replicate | 07:37 |
| markus_z | no, sorry | 07:38 |
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| paul-carlton2 | johnthetubaguy, would welcome your thoughts on https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1608832, I think I add the exclusion of the current host into the conductor code as a bug fix but do you think fixing the general issue of migrating instances with affinity policy needs a blueprint? | 07:50 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1608832 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "cold migration of instances with affinity policy fails" [Undecided,New] | 07:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/331996 | 07:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Masaki Matsushita proposed openstack/nova: Use URIOpt https://review.openstack.org/337477 | 07:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dao Cong Tien proposed openstack/nova: Remove mox from unit/api/openstack/compute/test_serversV21.py https://review.openstack.org/320821 | 07:57 |
| alex_xu | gmann: emm...it isn't handled by your patch yet, that image_id is coming from bdm.image_id, not the from the imageRef field in the body of server create | 07:57 |
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| markus_z | FYI: bugs-team-meeting in #openstack-meeting-4 | 08:00 |
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| gmann | alex_xu: but image_id in bdm is already a UUID only. | 08:03 |
| gmann | alex_xu: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/openstack/compute/schemas/block_device_mapping.py#L36 | 08:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Testing latest u-c https://review.openstack.org/303345 | 08:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | ChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/nova: Return instance of Guest from method write_instance_config https://review.openstack.org/265146 | 08:27 |
| openstackgerrit | ChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/nova: Don't use 'updated_at' to check service's status https://review.openstack.org/297085 | 08:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova: Fix 'id' (attachment_id) paramenters https://review.openstack.org/349863 | 08:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova: api-ref: Fix 'id' (attachment_id) paramenters https://review.openstack.org/349863 | 08:37 |
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| pkoniszewski | danpb: hi, are you around? | 08:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: Don't cache RPC pin when service_version is 0 https://review.openstack.org/339072 | 08:46 |
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| paul-carlton | mnestratov, hi so you're saying it is all down to my proxy? | 08:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova: api-ref: Fix 'id' (attachment_id) parameters https://review.openstack.org/349863 | 08:49 |
| mnestratov | paul-carlton: looks like this | 08:49 |
| paul-carlton | I can buy that, I've added the proxy setting to yum.conf and the env but I've hit this issue beofre | 08:49 |
| mnestratov | because I've checked yesterday with our proxy - everything is ok | 08:50 |
| mnestratov | by the way we can try to set it up in /etc/vztt/vztt.conf | 08:51 |
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| mnestratov | there is a HTTP_PROXY variable that needs to be defined | 08:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Dao Cong Tien proposed openstack/nova: Remove mox from api/openstack/compute/test_floating_ips.py https://review.openstack.org/322668 | 08:52 |
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| mnestratov | paul-carlton: I wonder, what network settings you had when you succeeded to swap a vz container before you reinstalled the system? | 08:59 |
| mnestratov | s/swap/spawn | 08:59 |
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| paul-carlton | mnestratov, when I set it up first time, I was working from home and had no proxy settings | 09:00 |
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| paul-carlton | trying vzctl create 100 it is hanging, meeting now back soon] | 09:00 |
| mnestratov | paul-carlton: I see, lets set HTTP_PROXY in /etc/vztt/vztt.conf and retry 'vzctl create 1000' | 09:01 |
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| mnestratov | paul-carlton: it's not hanging, it's downloading packets | 09:02 |
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| mnestratov | it is one time action | 09:02 |
| mnestratov | the second this will not be necessary | 09:02 |
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| mnestratov | *second time | 09:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | ChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/nova: Don't use 'updated_at' to check service's status https://review.openstack.org/297085 | 09:04 |
| alex_xu | gmann: ah, i got it, totally missed that point | 09:05 |
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| alex_xu | gmann: maybe just need a clean up in the glance client wrapper | 09:05 |
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| johnthetubaguy | paul-carlton2: good question, honestly I think our users need the fix, so lets call it a bug fix, if it looks too risky, we can always delay it and backport it once we are happy with it | 09:06 |
| gibi | johnthetubaguy: hi! If I remember correctly you suggested improving the notification sample tests by not booting a separate instance for each instance action. I proposed a patch with this improvement https://review.openstack.org/#/c/342944/ | 09:06 |
| gmann | alex_xu: yea, that we need if decide the same and i was thinking to add that in another patch as this will be huge | 09:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | paul-carlton2: I would love to know what bauzas_off had planned, but he isn't around right now | 09:06 |
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| alex_xu | gmann: yea, i'm ok with another patch | 09:06 |
| gmann | alex_xu: because glance client one is more cleanup on service bring up logic etc | 09:07 |
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| johnthetubaguy | gibi: oh, cool, I kinda would like sdague to look at that, as I suspect there is some fixtures magic that could be cleaner | 09:07 |
| gmann | sd | 09:07 |
| alex_xu | gmann: yea | 09:07 |
| gmann | alex_xu: but we need to get more opinion on empty string allow in ImageRef based on that this will be ready | 09:08 |
| alex_xu | gmann: yea, let see other people's feedback, or we can discuss that in api meeting, i will leave comment on the patch | 09:09 |
| gmann | alex_xu: yea, Thanks :) | 09:09 |
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| alex_xu | gmann: np | 09:10 |
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| gibi | johnthetubaguy: OK, I hope sdague can give some pointers which direction I should improve | 09:12 |
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| jojden | anybody have idea about nova evacuate | 09:14 |
| jojden | I am trying to create script for the nova evacuate | 09:14 |
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| markus_z | auggy: I left a comment at https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1605742 , would be cool if you could double-check that. | 09:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1605742 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Paramiko 2.0 is incompatible with Mitaka" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 09:15 |
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| xavvior | Hi! Someone can review my important patch? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/349582/ .This should to me, that know i to work | 09:17 |
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| johnthetubaguy | gibi: I found it: https://docs.python.org/2/library/unittest.html#unittest.TestCase.setUpClass | 09:20 |
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| markus_z | xavvior: That patch only extracts code as a new method, right? | 09:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Béla Vancsics proposed openstack/nova: Reduce code duplication and complexity https://review.openstack.org/342187 | 09:21 |
| markus_z | xavvior: I guess I don't see the big picture why this is important. | 09:21 |
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| xavvior | markus_z , yes, i only transfer to any new method, the resume_guest_state(rsg) related items | 09:23 |
| markus_z | xavvior: Ah, there are the other commits. | 09:23 |
| markus_z | xavvior: You have created conflicts with your other patches | 09:23 |
| xavvior | i have addition patches, and i should refactor these | 09:23 |
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| xavvior | markus_z: Yes | 09:23 |
| xavvior | markus_z: i have a few pieces patch, which connects this | 09:24 |
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| markus_z | xavvior: You used the "Depends-On" magic for that, correct? | 09:25 |
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| gibi | johnthetubaguy: thanks for the pointers | 09:26 |
| markus_z | xavvior: well, rhetorical question, it's right in the commit message | 09:26 |
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| xavvior | markus_z, yes, i used, but i work in more thread any item and this caused complications :S | 09:27 |
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| johnthetubaguy | paul-carlton2: I maybe missread that bug first time, I added a comment on the bug | 09:27 |
| markus_z | xavvior: "Depends-On:" is for cross-project dependencies, but your changes are only in Nova, which makes me think you're better with a simple change-chain | 09:27 |
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| markus_z | xavvior: Or is there a specific reason you needed to establish the dependency by "depends-on" magic? | 09:28 |
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| johnthetubaguy | gmann: I think I am with alex_xu, if I read the scroll back correctly, feels like we need to allow the current behaviour (only for the boot from volume case though), and consider a microversion later to tidy things up, if required. | 09:29 |
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| xavvior | markus_z: Yes, you right. But i wanted easier and fastes solution, therefore asked, that can someone review. If no, i naturally set all patch again newer dependency | 09:31 |
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| markus_z | xavvior: I think you won't have fun with it as it is right now. Assumed you have all the reviews you need, you will have to resolve the merge conflicts anyway. | 09:34 |
| markus_z | xavvior: ^ just my opinion | 09:35 |
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| johnthetubaguy | xavvior: I have been wondering about doing that trick myself, but it does confuse reviewers in gerrit, so I am thinking against that right now. although it does make it easier not to mess up other peoples matches, so it might be a good idea while you get your series ready | 09:39 |
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| xavvior | Ok, i understand. I'm sorry | 09:42 |
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| paul-carlton | mnestratov, you are right, it eventually completed, I did 100 should I run again with 1000? | 09:48 |
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| mnestratov | paul-carlton: no | 09:48 |
| mnestratov | 100 or 1000 doesn't matter | 09:48 |
| mnestratov | it's just an arbitrary ID | 09:49 |
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| gmann | johnthetubaguy: yea, we do not know how user will be using even wrong way. | 09:49 |
| paul-carlton | ok, let me try instance creation | 09:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Alex Szarka proposed openstack/nova: Reduce code duplication https://review.openstack.org/347422 | 09:49 |
| mnestratov | you can try to spawn an instance via nova | 09:49 |
| johnthetubaguy | gmann: yup, sadly | 09:50 |
| markus_z | bauzas_off: tonyb: I'd value your input on http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-August/100613.html | 09:51 |
| paul-carlton | mnestratov, it works! | 09:51 |
| mnestratov | paul-carlton: cool | 09:52 |
| paul-carlton | thank you for your help! | 09:52 |
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| mnestratov | paul-carlton: you are welcome | 09:52 |
| mnestratov | we should have made it a bit easier | 09:53 |
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| paul-carlton2 | johnthetubaguy, re bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1608832, it is not a live-migration issue, just cold-migration? | 09:53 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1608832 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "cold migration of instances with affinity policy fails" [High,New] | 09:53 |
| mnestratov | i mean the first container creation | 09:53 |
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| johnthetubaguy | paul-carlton2: possibly, I guess | 09:54 |
| paul-carlton2 | mnestratov, nope, HPE's silly proxy is to blame, it is a job creation scheme | 09:54 |
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| johnthetubaguy | paul-carlton2: the new API thing would be a spec, but it could get a bug expection | 09:54 |
| paul-carlton2 | johnthetubaguy, so you are thinking , add --force to migrate like for host-evacuate and live-migrate | 09:55 |
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| paul-carlton2 | johnthetubaguy, I'm not so sure, although that is a good workaround, I don't like --force it places a lot of responsibility on the operator to second guess the scheduler and with flavor extra specs and numa stuff it is becoming more difficult to be sure you are getting it right | 09:57 |
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| paul-carlton2 | johnthetubaguy, lxsli and I were talking about this and he suggested migrating instances with affinity policy as a group, i.e. if an instance being migrated is a member of a group with affinity policy then check for other members (they will be on the dsmae host) and then find a host that can fit them all and migrate them there? | 10:00 |
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| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: ++ | 10:02 |
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| johnthetubaguy | paul-carlton2: honestly, I think the current affinity / anti-affinity is broken, its too host specific, we have a good spec in review to fix that from nortman, but I am distracted | 10:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | paul-carlton2: I don't think we want to migrate a group, its an orchestration API, we need to add the APIs to allow that | 10:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | paul-carlton2: now thats probably not practical with host affinity, but then nothing really is | 10:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | paul-carlton2: I think the specific host, and a force param is the way to go for both operations for now | 10:13 |
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| johnthetubaguy | paul-carlton2: longer term, we should have affinity to a specifically tagged aggregate, or something like that, i.e. rack level affinity, and zone affinity, etc | 10:14 |
| paul-carlton2 | johnthetubaguy, agreed, I see it as a work around | 10:14 |
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| johnthetubaguy | in many use cases, its also exactly what the user is trying to express, its kinda both | 10:15 |
| paul-carlton2 | johnthetubaguy, do you have the url for nortman's spec handy? | 10:15 |
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| johnthetubaguy | paul-carlton2: let me have a quick look | 10:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | paul-carlton2: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247654/ | 10:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Alex Szarka proposed openstack/nova: Reduce code duplication https://review.openstack.org/347422 | 10:15 |
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| paul-carlton2 | johnthetubaguy, An idea I had way back before we started openstack work at HP was same, near, far, i.e. same host, near (same rack), far (different racks) and the inverse for each, i.e. anti-same anti-near | 10:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, that sounds very similar | 10:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | there is complexity on whether you are allowed to target a specific one (AZ) or not (host), and if it should be obfuscated (or randomised) between tenants, etc | 10:18 |
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| paul-carlton2 | ok, I think we should fix the bug for now, possibly add force option to migrate as part of bug fix or do that in Ocata if not acceptable | 10:21 |
| paul-carlton2 | One workaround if the instance can be started and pausded is to use live-migration which of course does have a force option | 10:22 |
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| paul-carlton2 | We will need to accommodate migration and evacuation in nortman's spec | 10:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova: Add a hacking rule for string interpolation at logging https://review.openstack.org/334844 | 10:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lucian Petrut proposed openstack/nova: Hyper-V: update live migrate data object https://review.openstack.org/347435 | 10:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Lucian Petrut proposed openstack/nova: Hyper-V: properly handle shared storage during migrations https://review.openstack.org/335114 | 10:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Lucian Petrut proposed openstack/nova: Hyper-V: properly handle UNC instance paths https://review.openstack.org/347436 | 10:44 |
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| sdague | johnthetubaguy: did you see the conversation around bandwidth tracking in nova? | 10:53 |
| johnthetubaguy | no, JayF told me to go look that that as well | 10:54 |
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| johnthetubaguy | I will go take a peak now | 10:54 |
| sdague | right, it seems like we have this whole infrastructure to only send notifications on xenapi | 10:54 |
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| sdague | it doesn't expose anywhere else | 10:55 |
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| markus_z | FYI: trivial fix https://review.openstack.org/#/c/349542/1 | 10:55 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: its only via notifications | 10:56 |
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| sdague | johnthetubaguy: any thoughts on ways that rax could move that metric collection/disbursement out of nova, so we could deprecate out that facility. It would make things a bit clearer on us not having nova be a metrics collector for other systems. | 11:00 |
| sdague | markus_z: +A | 11:01 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sdague: honestly, its going to be a very nasty rewrite to get that out of Nova, but I agree thats the correct long term direction | 11:06 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sdague: I have lost track, what should people to use to build a billing system, ceilometer plus something else? | 11:17 |
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| sdague | johnthetubaguy: honestly, I'm not entirely sure at this point. It feels like that's one of those more vague areas out there. Ceilometer could definitely be part of that | 11:18 |
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| odyssey4me | johnthetubaguy sdague as I understand it, the telemetry system just collects the data - then something like cloudkitty is used to consume the data and use it for billing purposes | 11:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | odyssey4me: ah, cloudkitty, thats the thing I wasn't sure about | 11:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | although, that seems similar to what we use stachtach for | 11:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | stacktach, oops | 11:29 |
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| odyssey4me | yeah, but as I understand it stacktach kinda does telemetry type things in a different way... and then does some pre-processing of data for billing purposes | 11:30 |
| odyssey4me | it has a leg in both camps | 11:30 |
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| johnthetubaguy | it processes notification streams, so I guess it does both | 11:31 |
| odyssey4me | the telemetry trio of ceilometer/gnocchi/aodh covers data collection and storage and strictly doesn't process/interpret like stacktach does | 11:31 |
| johnthetubaguy | its relying on Nova to collect everything right now, I guess thats the big problem/difference | 11:31 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy: right | 11:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Manish proposed openstack/nova: VM with Encrypted Vol throws error on hard reboot https://review.openstack.org/337075 | 11:33 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sdague: I mean we just need something to produce the same json payloads, if we go for a quick fix, its just that thing needs to list deleted instances in the Nova DB, via the Nova API or otherwise, which I am not too keen on. I need to think about it some more | 11:34 |
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| sdague | johnthetubaguy: because there is a final notification on delete with the aggregate bw? | 11:39 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy: well, this isn't a hard ask to change it now, it's mostly trying to get people thinking about how we stop doing things like this in the future | 11:40 |
| sdague | and especially preventing this from growing into other drivers | 11:41 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sdague: yeah, I am +1 stopping the growth of this, by deprecating, etc | 11:41 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sdague: basically, yes. the delete stuff is because you want to know what a tenant used during each billing aggregate period. So you say for today, they had this instance running for 2 hours, and this other for 5 hours, and this one is still running from yesterday, so you need to know about the past, depending on how you do this | 11:43 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sdague: I think we currently do it using two different methods, to ensure if something bad happens, we can spot it. I don't remember how the second method works right now | 11:44 |
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| johnthetubaguy | I think it might be looking at all the start and stop notifications, and looking at the daily audit notifications | 11:44 |
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| sdague | yeh, worth pondering for next cycle. | 11:46 |
| sdague | I wonder if we could at least code comment the driver interface to say *don't* use this | 11:46 |
| sdague | so that more people won't think they should add support in other virt drivers | 11:46 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sdague: yeah, +1 that | 11:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | sravan proposed openstack/nova: Add tenant_name when list nova usage Fix for "Bug #1318770" https://review.openstack.org/349952 | 11:54 |
| openstack | bug 1318770 in python-novaclient "nova usage list to show tenant name." [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1318770 - Assigned to Sravan Kumar (dommarajusravan) | 11:54 |
| jklare | Hi, can somebody tell me if i am running into a bug or am doing something wrong with config? I have been trying to debug this for a while now, but could not really figure out what the underlying cause ist (http://pastebin.com/raw/TwtiNLY2) | 11:56 |
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| jklare | I have been walking through the trace and it looks like for some reason nova is trying to check the size of the template for the image, which does not exist in this case (images_type=raw and use_cow_images=False) | 11:57 |
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| jklare | so apart form the simple fact that the backing file in _base/ does not exist, everything seems to work fine | 11:57 |
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| sdague | gah, the os-brick unpin failed on an infra results death this time | 11:58 |
| jklare | so i was wondering if i should report a bug or not | 11:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | sravan proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Add tenant_name when list nova usage Fix for "Bug #1318770" https://review.openstack.org/349955 | 12:00 |
| openstack | bug 1318770 in python-novaclient "nova usage list to show tenant name." [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1318770 - Assigned to Sravan Kumar (dommarajusravan) | 12:00 |
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| nortman | paul-carlton2: In my spec, if you are using a scope larger than host scope, then the migration/evacuation issues become much less thorny, because you can migrate a single instance in the group to another host within the same scope without violating any policy, assuming there is at least one host with spare capacity within the same scope as the other instances. | 12:20 |
| nortman | It becomes more straightforward to migrate incrementally anyway. | 12:20 |
| nortman | If you have host-scope affinity, then the situation is the same as it currently is. | 12:21 |
| nortman | Though I also have a spec up that allows editing group membership and group policies; this would allow you to temporarily relax policies while you do migrations. | 12:21 |
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| paul-carlton2 | nortman, agreed, my point is this needs to be fixed either as part of the implementation of your spec or as subsequent bit of work to build on the new affinity/anti-affinuty model | 12:22 |
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| paul-carlton2 | If your spec is going to be implemented to fix the current shortcomings with server group policies then there is no point trying to fix the existing implementation | 12:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ludovic Beliveau proposed openstack/nova: PCI: Fix network calls order on finish_revert_resize() https://review.openstack.org/349061 | 12:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Ludovic Beliveau proposed openstack/nova: Fix drop_move_claim() on revert resize https://review.openstack.org/349060 | 12:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Alexis Lee proposed openstack/nova: WIP Move scheduler options into groups https://review.openstack.org/349959 | 12:25 |
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| nortman | paul-carlton2: Agreed. | 12:26 |
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| paul-carlton2 | nortman, temporarily removing an instance from a group to migrate it might be an acceptable solution | 12:28 |
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| paul-carlton2 | However I'm concerend that youi could end up moving an instance which shares a host-scope affinity with other instances to a host that cannot accommodate the other members of the group | 12:30 |
| paul-carlton2 | nortman, That is why I liked the idea of migrating them as a batch but johnthetubaguy expressed concern that this strayed into orchestration | 12:31 |
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| nortman | paul-carlton2: Host-scope affinity is problematic no matter what. I'm not entirely clear on the use cases for it either. Host anti-affinity makes a lot of sense and is less problematic. | 12:36 |
| nortman | And as you may gather from the fact that I wrote that spec, I see a lot of use cases for affinity scopes somewhat broader than host. | 12:36 |
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| paul-carlton2 | nortman, we have real wrold scenarios where customers want instances A & B on the same host and instance C on a different host, all based on performance requirements not HA | 12:38 |
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| nortman | And would having a "network switch" scope to ensure fast communication between instances not be almost as good as same-host affinity? | 12:39 |
| nortman | I suppose it all depends on the deployer's topology. | 12:39 |
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| nortman | And nothing will ever be as fast as same-host, if network performance is critical. | 12:40 |
| paul-carlton2 | Agreed, if ultra fast inter vm comms is required same host is the best option in most topologies | 12:41 |
| nortman | Maybe we need a "host rebuild" operation, which transfers every instance on one host to a new host, rather than putting it through the scheduler. That doesn't feel orchestration-y to me. | 12:41 |
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| paul-carlton2 | nortman, that makes sense but requires the cloud operator the have spare hardware available for rolling migrations | 12:42 |
| paul-carlton2 | Also, they need to make quite sure the hosts are comparable in terms of NUMA, SR-IOV capabilities etc | 12:43 |
| nortman | Yeah, not trivial. | 12:43 |
| nortman | There's a reason we have a scheduler. | 12:43 |
| paul-carlton2 | I'm a lot more comfortable with the current direction of asking the scheduler to do placement | 12:44 |
| paul-carlton2 | I believe the placement API may offer the opportunity to obtain time limited claims so you could reserve space for your host scope affinity instances on another node then migrate them | 12:46 |
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| nortman | I haven't been on this project long enough to have an opinion on whether a "schedule/place this whole group of instances" operation belongs in nova, but it sounds useful to me. | 12:47 |
| paul-carlton2 | but we don't have the placement API yet, although I think jaypipes and Co are getting closer to delivering this, and we still need something to manage the claims and migrations | 12:47 |
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| paul-carlton2 | feels like a good fit for the Task API! | 12:47 |
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| paul-carlton2 | All of this applies to any zone level scope, just more likely to the be an issue for host scope, i.e. an operator could define a zone per rack and in the event of issues with a specific rack need to move instances to a different rack | 12:49 |
| paul-carlton2 | Some data centre management tooling would like to be able to automatically move instances around the data centre to optimize power utiliziation | 12:51 |
| paul-carlton2 | nortman, I guess this spec has missed the newton cut (assume it ids not priority?), do you plan to re-propose it for ocata? | 12:53 |
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| nortman | paul-carlton2: Yes, and/or a different form of it based on server tags rather than server groups. | 12:59 |
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| nortman | I'm indifferent between tags and groups myself. | 13:00 |
| ababich | Hi, all! Please, take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/333305/ . It's a fix with removing hard-coded expected result from a pair of Tempest tests, and we do need this fix to be merged for our CI, because the 'config_drive' parameter is set to True by default on our envs | 13:00 |
| nortman | But some folks here hate server groups. | 13:00 |
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| markus_z | lxsli: Do you have an example how you do the reload of mutable configs? http://docs.openstack.org/developer/oslo.config/mutable.html | 13:03 |
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| paul-carlton2 | tags are nice idea but they are meant for users categorising instances and thus no restrictions on the values, feels like a more defined data model is required but using tags may simplify the implementation | 13:04 |
| markus_z | lxsli: I tried http://paste.openstack.org/show/545622/ which wasn't successful | 13:04 |
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| paul-carlton2 | i.e. customer adds an instance tag zone:Z to have instance scheduled to a zone Z | 13:06 |
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| lxsli | markus_z: looking | 13:07 |
| wznoinsk | sfinucan: around? | 13:07 |
| lxsli | markus_z: I think it's just `kill -HUP <pid>` | 13:07 |
| paul-carlton2 | my concern is this is a misuse of tags and you still need to define groups and policies for those groups somewhere | 13:07 |
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| lxsli | markus_z: hmm that should have worked... thinking | 13:08 |
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| lxsli | markus_z: can you tail the log? It should say something like "reloading config", that'll help us know if the signal isn't working or just that option | 13:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Timofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova: nfs fix for xenial images https://review.openstack.org/329466 | 13:10 |
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| tdurakov | jaypipes: added release note, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348284/ could you take a look? | 13:11 |
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| markus_z | lxsli: Hm, it failed to restart the service, don't know why. I think that's an issue in my setup, just wanted to double-check with you if I use it correctly, thanks. | 13:13 |
| lxsli | markus_z: it should keep the same PID, IE no restart | 13:13 |
| lxsli | markus_z: can you try your API server? That's what I tested with | 13:14 |
| lxsli | markus_z: it's possible compute nodes don't work? | 13:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Timofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova: nfs fix for xenial images https://review.openstack.org/329466 | 13:14 |
| markus_z | lxsli: Hm, let me try with nova-api, one sec | 13:15 |
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| markus_z | lxsli: http://paste.openstack.org/show/545626/ | 13:24 |
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| markus_z | lxsli: I don't get it. Sometimes it works and `grep "Caught SIGHUP" /opt/stack/screen-logs/n-cpu.log` shows it. And another SIGHUP seems to terminate the process. | 13:25 |
| markus_z | lxsli: I have to dig deeper into that, thanks for your time | 13:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lucian Petrut proposed openstack/nova: Hyper-V: update live migrate data object https://review.openstack.org/347435 | 13:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Lucian Petrut proposed openstack/nova: Hyper-V: properly handle shared storage during migrations https://review.openstack.org/335114 | 13:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Lucian Petrut proposed openstack/nova: Hyper-V: properly handle UNC instance paths https://review.openstack.org/347436 | 13:31 |
| mriedem | lpetrut: isn't that more of a feature add? | 13:33 |
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| sdague | mriedem: as soon as we find a second requirements reviewer.... https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348250 and bam! welcome to the brave new world of privsep | 13:41 |
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| mriedem | oh my | 13:42 |
| mriedem | i'll probably need pants for this new world | 13:42 |
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| lpetrut | mriedem: in theory, the Hyper-V driver supported shared storage, but there were a few bugs on this topic. for simple scenarios, it was 'working' already. | 13:43 |
| mriedem | so this is, migrations are broken with shared storage | 13:43 |
| lpetrut | yep | 13:43 |
| jaypipes | tdurakov: done | 13:46 |
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| tdurakov | jaypipes: thanks | 13:46 |
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| jaypipes | edleafe: you see the linting check failure on resource-provider-tags spec? | 13:47 |
| edleafe | jaypipes: sorry, in a meeting | 13:47 |
| edleafe | will look when I'm free | 13:47 |
| tdurakov | lpetrut, mriedem, hi, just to be sure, do we have multinode for hyper-v? | 13:49 |
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| jaypipes | edleafe: yup, no worries. | 13:49 |
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| mriedem | jroll: -1 on my -2 here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/297895/ | 13:49 |
| mriedem | jroll: comments in the release note | 13:49 |
| mriedem | tdurakov: multinode hyper-v CI | 13:50 |
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| mriedem | ? | 13:50 |
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| mriedem | no | 13:50 |
| mriedem | at least i don't think so | 13:50 |
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| lpetrut | tdurakov, mriedem: in fact, we do :) | 13:50 |
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| jroll | mriedem: thanks, will update soonish | 13:50 |
| claudiub | tdurakov: yep, every hyper-v ci run uses 2 hyper-v compute nodes. | 13:51 |
| tdurakov | lpetrut: could you please explicitly share links for the node and the run against your patch | 13:51 |
| mriedem | jroll: note that i haven't gotten past the release note :) | 13:52 |
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| mriedem | but there are some things to fix there and we should bump minimum ironicclient in g-r to >=1.5.0 | 13:52 |
| tdurakov | paul-carlton2 eliqiao shaohe_feng pkoniszewski jlanoux yuntongjin mdbooth kashyap kmartin claudiub tobasco tdurakov andreas_s abhishekk diana_clarke mrhillsman | 13:52 |
| tdurakov | live-migration subteam meeting in 10 minutes at #openstack-meeting-3 | 13:52 |
| lpetrut | sure, http://64.119.130.115/nova/347435/2/Hyper-V_logs/ | 13:52 |
| lpetrut | http://64.119.130.115/nova/347435/2/results.html.gz | 13:52 |
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| jroll | mriedem: heh, yeah. didn't think the g-r bump was worth it since ironicclient isn't in nova requirements.txt but will do | 13:52 |
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| mriedem | jroll: it's still a minimum requirement for this to work | 13:53 |
| tdurakov | lpetrut: I'd say it's lind of unsual output for the tests results:) | 13:53 |
| mriedem | so it should be updated, even if it's optional | 13:53 |
| lxsli | markus_z: aha! PHEW! | 13:53 |
| jroll | mriedem: yeah, fair | 13:53 |
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| mriedem | we should also get this updated at some point http://docs.openstack.org/ops-guide/ops_upgrades.html | 13:53 |
| markus_z | lxsli: Hm? | 13:54 |
| mriedem | do the ironic docs mention anything about upgrading ironic before nova? | 13:54 |
| lxsli | markus_z: if you SIGHUP again before the reload is complete, it will terminate the process, this is by design | 13:54 |
| kashyap | tdurakov: Thanks for the reminder. (/me 's internet is unstable at this coffee shop, will have to head home post meeting.) | 13:54 |
| lpetrut | tdurakov: I think back then, when the CI was first implemented, there was no actual guideline about what the output should be, so we did our best to provide meaningful logs | 13:54 |
| jroll | mriedem: I had thought they did, then last week I couldn't find it, it's on my list to fix | 13:54 |
| markus_z | lxsli: ohhhh, I didn't see that. Is that in "oslo.config"? | 13:54 |
| tdurakov | kashyap: no worries | 13:54 |
| lxsli | markus_z: I should probably add something to the docs; I also have a patch here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/324654/ to prevent it | 13:54 |
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| mriedem | jroll: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/ironic/deploy/upgrade-guide.html?highlight=upgrade#upgrading-from-juno-to-kilo - actually says to upgrade nova before ironic | 13:54 |
| mriedem | going from juno to kilo | 13:55 |
| tdurakov | lpetrut: that's not such critical, just smth new for me | 13:55 |
| mriedem | so that could be very confusing now for mitaka->newton if all anyone has is those old docs | 13:55 |
| mriedem | jaypipes: ^ | 13:55 |
| jroll | mriedem: that one was a special case, but yeah, agree | 13:56 |
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| jroll | fixing those docs are on my list | 13:56 |
| markus_z | lxsli: Ha, looks like I was just impatient. I did the second SIGHUP in a 2-5 seconds timeframe. | 13:56 |
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| lxsli | markus_z: so it works on a compute node too? | 13:56 |
| markus_z | lxsli: It recognized the sighup and logged it, but I couldn't confirm the reload. | 13:57 |
| lxsli | OK | 13:57 |
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| lxsli | markus_z: I am very relieved! | 13:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Clenimar Filemon proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Refactor test_servers APIVersion setup https://review.openstack.org/347555 | 13:58 |
| markus_z | lxsli: But I had code applied to test http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-August/100645.html | 13:58 |
| markus_z | lxsli: Could have been problematic | 13:58 |
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| lxsli | markus_z: the double-HUP-kills design is an issue for automatic HUPs | 13:59 |
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| lxsli | markus_z: I'll test compute nodes myself when I get time | 14:00 |
| markus_z | lxsli: yeah, it also came to my very surprise to be honest | 14:00 |
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| mriedem | jroll: so docs said you guys couldn't have ironic in the ops-guide? | 14:00 |
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| mriedem | jroll: so you can't even use http://docs.openstack.org/ops-guide/ops_upgrades.html#update-services ? | 14:01 |
| mriedem | s/use/update/? | 14:01 |
| mriedem | or the ironic docs have to plugin to the ops-guide? | 14:01 |
| jroll | mriedem: as far as I remember, that's correct, though I'm not sure if we asked about ops guide or were focusing on install guide | 14:01 |
| jroll | ops guide isn't pluggable yet afaik | 14:02 |
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| mriedem | hmm | 14:02 |
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| mriedem | so telemetry is in but ironic isn't, that's weird | 14:02 |
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| jroll | they're in the install guide, too | 14:02 |
| mriedem | maybe i should go stoke the flames in that plugins thread... | 14:03 |
| jroll | mriedem: for now, I'd rather not hang this on getting us into the ops guide :) | 14:03 |
| mriedem | i wouldn't | 14:03 |
| mriedem | we need something in http://docs.openstack.org/developer/ironic/deploy/upgrade-guide.html though | 14:04 |
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| jroll | yeah, totally agree, I put that on my todo list last week | 14:05 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/350034 | 14:05 |
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| jroll | mriedem: so this networking thing requires 1.5.0, resource class thing requires 1.6.0, should I just go ahead and bump g-r to 1.6.0? | 14:09 |
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| mriedem | jroll: i think the nova tenant networking change should depend on the 1.5.0 bump, and the nova resource class thing should depend on a 1.6.0 bump | 14:10 |
| jroll | I did, here's the patch if you disagree https://review.openstack.org/#/c/350039/ | 14:10 |
| jroll | heh, ok | 14:10 |
| mriedem | odd as that seems, they are different things and i'd like to keep them separate focus items | 14:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ed Leafe proposed openstack/nova-specs: ResourceProviderTags - Manage Capabilities https://review.openstack.org/345138 | 14:10 |
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| jroll | yeah, I get it | 14:11 |
| jroll | 1.5.0 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/350040/ | 14:11 |
| mriedem | dansmith: something i didn't think about with having os-virtual-interfaces work for neutron (for vif tags) - any ports created before newton won't have a response from that api, which might be odd | 14:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Jim Rollenhagen proposed openstack/nova: Ironic: enable multitenant networking https://review.openstack.org/297895 | 14:11 |
| jroll | and updated reno/depends-on ^ | 14:11 |
| edleafe | jaypipes: fixed the pep8 issues | 14:12 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: you mean created before we started writing vif records for them? | 14:12 |
| mriedem | jroll: cool you read my mind | 14:12 |
| mriedem | dansmith: yeah | 14:12 |
| mriedem | which, meh? | 14:12 |
| jroll | :) | 14:12 |
| dansmith | mriedem: the vif record only stores our tag, so we can just ignore that.. the data we need to satisfy that interface is in info_cache and always has been, right? | 14:13 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: true, i keep forgetting about that | 14:13 |
| mriedem | dansmith: we don't store the tag in the info_cache do we.... | 14:13 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: no | 14:14 |
| mriedem | i think at some point it would be useful to return the vif tag from that api if we're going to keep it around | 14:14 |
| dansmith | ues | 14:14 |
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| mriedem | danpb: can you take a pass at reviewing the storage pools spec? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/310505/ | 14:14 |
| danpb | ok | 14:14 |
| mriedem | danpb: spec deadline is thurssday | 14:14 |
| mriedem | thanks | 14:14 |
| danpb | oh hang on, the spec ?!?! | 14:15 |
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| mriedem | danpb: yeah | 14:16 |
| danpb | we've been doing all this work and the spec isn't even approved ?!? | 14:16 |
| mriedem | the imagebackend refactor spec was approved long ago | 14:16 |
| mriedem | which is mdbooth's series | 14:16 |
| mriedem | and is a dependency for storage pools | 14:16 |
| jaypipes | edleafe: cool, reviewing now. | 14:17 |
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| danpb | mriedem: are we realistically going to get storage pools stuff done in this cycle ? | 14:18 |
| danpb | it seems like its already a huge amount just to get mdbooth's stuff done | 14:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrey Shestakov proposed openstack/nova: [POC] add support of attach_interface for ironic https://review.openstack.org/350047 | 14:18 |
| mdbooth | danpb: No. No chance. | 14:18 |
| mriedem | danpb: no | 14:18 |
| mdbooth | danpb: No reason we can't think about it though, right? | 14:18 |
| danpb | so what's the point in reviewing the spec against newton for the deadline | 14:18 |
| mriedem | danpb: but at the midcycle there was talk of getting some foundational stuff done, like object model things and tests | 14:18 |
| danpb | that seems kind of pointless if nothings going to use it | 14:19 |
| mriedem | i don't disagree, and don't actually know what is in the works code-wise that would be useful to land in newton | 14:19 |
| danpb | i'd rather we focused on making sure mdbooth's work is working properly than try to squeeze in some foundation stuff | 14:19 |
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| danpb | for a new spec we've not even scheduled and don;'t expect to complete even if approved | 14:20 |
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| mdbooth | danpb: Incidentally, part of the foundation is the missing BDMs for local root and config disks. | 14:20 |
| mdbooth | Or it could be, anyway. | 14:20 |
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| dansmith | danpb: on the other hand, if we've done the work to review it and it's close, we can land it and make it an obvious re-approval for ocata.. that was the crux of the conversation for me | 14:22 |
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| Qiming | guys, sorry for interrupt, but I really want to know if nova emits will emit a notification when a nova-compute service is down (could be any reason) | 14:23 |
| danpb | dansmith: i'd really rather just see the spec proposed for ocata right now and thus have it give an accurate description of what's actually intended to be done in ocata straight away | 14:24 |
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| danpb | i honestly don't see any compelling reason to approve a new spec for newton at this time - at best we'll be rushing review of it to meet a pointless deadline for thursday | 14:25 |
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| dansmith | danpb: when we discussed it, we said it won't really change anything about what we're doing right now | 14:25 |
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| danpb | well i wasn't party to whatever discusions were had, but it doesn't really alter my opinion | 14:27 |
| danpb | it is pointless reviewing & approving new specs now for work that we already know will not merge in this cycle | 14:27 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: are you +2 on it? because I told paul I would review it when they were happy with the latest iteration | 14:28 |
| mriedem | danpb: for this volume-backed live migration abort bug, do you think in-qemu iscsi might help at all? | 14:28 |
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| danpb | mriedem: hard to tell to be honest - its still unclear what the root cause it | 14:29 |
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| mriedem | danpb: ok, was just thinking out loud about that one since i heard kernel + iscsi | 14:29 |
| danpb | mriedem: if its a network interruption between the compute node & iscsi server, then it would likely affect in-qemu iscsi too | 14:29 |
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| mriedem | i don't even know if the in-qemu iscsi support is in the qemu package in xenial | 14:29 |
| mriedem | it wasn't in trusty/precisse | 14:29 |
| danpb | then again, it might give us a nicer error message in qemu that acutally shows us the real problem | 14:29 |
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| danpb | as the error reporting from the kernel iscsi client is awful (and that's being polite) | 14:30 |
| kashyap | mriedem: Why does Ubuntu not carry that patch,, you know? | 14:31 |
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| mriedem | kashyap: i'd have to dig up the history | 14:31 |
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| mriedem | i thought it was security concerns or something, but mdbooth said it didn't have multipath support, so i'm not sure | 14:32 |
| mriedem | at one point i had found the ubuntu LP bug for it | 14:32 |
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| kashyap | mriedem: Okay, I have the patches carried by Xenial QEMU in some VM somewhere, will try to find it | 14:32 |
| danpb | correct, it definitely doesn't have multipath support | 14:32 |
| lyarwood | has anyone ruled out the duplicate initiator names for that live-migration bug btw? | 14:32 |
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| * lyarwood hasn't had time upstream to try in the past few weeks | 14:33 | |
| danpb | mriedem: it is part of the qemu-block-extra package on Xenial http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/qemu-block-extra | 14:33 |
| danpb | (at least judging by fact that it lists a dep on libiscsi2 (>= 1.10.0) ) | 14:33 |
| mriedem | danpb: on the storage pools spec i haven't gone through the latest, was hoping danpb would be happy with it first, but i'm in the same boat - really about getting it approved if we're happy so it's a fast re-approve early for ocata | 14:34 |
| mriedem | oops | 14:34 |
| mriedem | dansmith: ^ | 14:34 |
| mriedem | too many dans | 14:34 |
| mriedem | danpb: on http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/qemu-block-extra cool, so we could try this in the live-migration job which is on xenial | 14:35 |
| dansmith | mriedem: yeah, and we told them we would | 14:35 |
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| danpb | mriedem: if we want to approve it early in ocata we should just review it for ocata now and approve it for ocata right away | 14:37 |
| danpb | instead of approving it for newton & reapproving for ocata later | 14:37 |
| danpb | either way we have todo a proper review of the spec at some point | 14:38 |
| mriedem | i would like to hit now while there is momentum on the spec | 14:38 |
| mriedem | for what that's worth | 14:38 |
| mriedem | danpb: yeah, people have been reviewing / working on the spec for the past few weeks | 14:38 |
| danpb | what prevents us reviewing it against ocata now | 14:38 |
| mriedem | mnestratov had found some issues with ploop before the midcycle which are addressed now | 14:39 |
| dansmith | we lose context if we wait | 14:39 |
| danpb | there's no reason why we should artifically wait N more weeks before reviewing ocata specs | 14:39 |
| dansmith | there has been a bunch of review on it so far | 14:39 |
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| danpb | dansmith: i'm not saying we have to wait - i'm saying it could be uploaded today as a spec against ocata and we can review and approve it | 14:39 |
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| danpb | but without forcing ourselves into the artificial newton deadline of thursday | 14:40 |
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| dansmith | so you're okay with reviewing it now, but just not if the directory says newton? | 14:40 |
| danpb | yeah | 14:40 |
| mriedem | if moving it to ocata in nova-specs makes danpb happy then that's fine with me | 14:41 |
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| paul-carlton2 | danpb, dansmith, mriedem I can move the specs to ocata now if you like | 14:41 |
| danpb | it means we can take enough time to review it properly instead of forcing us to rush it for thursday newton deadline | 14:41 |
| dansmith | danpb: so then not now? | 14:41 |
| dansmith | some of us have already reviewed it quite a bit | 14:42 |
| dansmith | so it's not really rushing | 14:42 |
| dansmith | but whatever | 14:42 |
| paul-carlton2 | I'm happy with that, I will still work on implementation as time permits in next few months | 14:42 |
| danpb | dansmith: for a definition of "now" that means the next week or so, as opposed to severa months | 14:42 |
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| mriedem | omfg +2 yes https://review.openstack.org/#/c/327191/ | 14:45 |
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| johnthetubaguy | macsz: what was that deprecated config you were thinking we should remove now? | 14:53 |
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| macsz | johnthetubaguy: lost the link, looking for it | 14:55 |
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| macsz | johnthetubaguy: and one more thing - options like XVP are completly empty - should we drop conf files which are empty? | 14:56 |
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| macsz | johnthetubaguy: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/349691/ | 14:57 |
| macsz | ops, not this link | 14:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Alexis Lee proposed openstack/nova: Group scheduler options https://review.openstack.org/349959 | 14:57 |
| mriedem | jroll: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/297895/ looks good to me, i'd like to see the job pass on the experimental queue first | 14:58 |
| johnthetubaguy | macsz: yeah, delete the nonsense files | 14:58 |
| macsz | johnthetubahuy: it’s cache, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348064/1/nova/conf/cache.py | 14:58 |
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| macsz | ok | 14:58 |
| johnthetubaguy | macsz: so what bits are deprecated in that patch you referenced? | 14:58 |
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| mriedem | jroll: also on that, i think i've asked before, but don't we at some point want the vif plugged callback to be handled for the ironic driver so that the server doesn't go to ACTIVE until the vif is plugged/bound in neutron? | 14:58 |
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| johnthetubaguy | macsz: they have deprecated group, but thats just an alias, its not that the options are deprecated. | 14:59 |
| macsz | johnthetubaguy: i just lost the link and paste sth different by accident ;) give me a minute | 15:00 |
| johnthetubaguy | macsz: oops, I crossed my wires there, looking at cache | 15:00 |
| johnthetubaguy | macsz: no worries | 15:00 |
| macsz | johnthetubaguy: yea, I created a mess over here! :) | 15:00 |
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| jroll | mriedem: probably do, yeah | 15:01 |
| tdurakov | pkoniszewski: about flags | 15:01 |
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| tdurakov | pkoniszewski: I'd expect you remove this explicit options | 15:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | macsz: that oslo cache thing looks fine to me, its registering options, so its you can't just delete that finle | 15:01 |
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| johnthetubaguy | macsz: s/finle/file/ | 15:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Maciej Szankin proposed openstack/nova: Config options consistency of rdp.py https://review.openstack.org/349620 | 15:02 |
| pkoniszewski | tdurakov: what do you mean? | 15:03 |
| macsz | johnthetubaguy: oh, you are right, totally did not notice this line | 15:03 |
| tdurakov | pkoniszewski: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/334860/ - this one | 15:03 |
| pkoniszewski | tdurakov: yeah, but question is more about live_migration_tunnelled and what to do with None value | 15:04 |
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| macsz | johnthetubaguy: it is conductor: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/324784/8/nova/conf/conductor.py | 15:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alexis Lee proposed openstack/nova: Group scheduler options https://review.openstack.org/349959 | 15:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Alexis Lee proposed openstack/nova: Reorder scheduler options https://review.openstack.org/350085 | 15:07 |
| tdurakov | pkoniszewski: tbh, I'd prefer to: | 15:07 |
| tdurakov | - make flags default = False | 15:07 |
| tdurakov | - add release note | 15:07 |
| tdurakov | - add log.warning on host init | 15:07 |
| tdurakov | - rebase clean up I've mentioned above on top of it | 15:07 |
| tdurakov | 15:07 | |
| pkoniszewski | that's the best option i think | 15:08 |
| aunnam_ | johnthetubaguy, can we remove the deprecated_group, deprecated_name attributes if they exists more than a cycle? | 15:08 |
| pkoniszewski | thanks tdurakov | 15:08 |
| tdurakov | log.warning to say that option is disabled by default, and it's up to operator to enable it | 15:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | aunnam_: we could, but its really cheap to leave them there, until we get better tooling to help operators know if they are using an alias, etc | 15:08 |
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| tdurakov | pkoniszewski: welcome:) will reply on this mail | 15:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | macsz: use_local conductor is an interesting one, I can't remember what dansmith was thinking about when to remove that | 15:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alexis Lee proposed openstack/nova: Group scheduler options https://review.openstack.org/349959 | 15:10 |
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| aunnam_ | johnthetubaguy, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/318309/ can you check the last comment in this patch | 15:12 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/350034 | 15:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrey Kurilin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Deprecate several variables https://review.openstack.org/350106 | 15:16 |
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| alex_xu | jaypipes: edleafe just reply the comment on the spec, sorry for the late, and I got some answer for Chris' concern http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-August/100634.html | 15:18 |
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| Yingxin | edleafe jaypipes alex_xu: I'd like to start a spec about caps handling using required/preferred in flavors and image_meta, if no one is already working on that | 15:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alexis Lee proposed openstack/nova: Group scheduler options https://review.openstack.org/349959 | 15:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sarafraj Singh proposed openstack/nova: Merged barbican and key_manager conf files into one. https://review.openstack.org/349632 | 15:28 |
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| edleafe | Yingxin: that would be interesting. I'd be happy to contribute. | 15:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alexis Lee proposed openstack/nova: Group scheduler options https://review.openstack.org/349959 | 15:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sarafraj Singh proposed openstack/nova: Merged barbican and key_manager conf files into one. https://review.openstack.org/349632 | 15:33 |
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| mriedem | jroll: isn't some of this spec invalid now, like the macs_for_instance and port group stuff? http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/newton/approved/ironic-networks-support.html | 15:35 |
| jroll | mriedem: no, that's future work we were hoping to do in one shot | 15:36 |
| mriedem | oh | 15:36 |
| jroll | I can kill it with fire, there's additional things to add for portgroup things | 15:36 |
| jroll | we punted portgroups down the road for ironic as well | 15:36 |
| mriedem | ok | 15:36 |
| Yingxin | edleafe: it's great! thanks | 15:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | STEW TY proposed openstack/nova: Check option indentations for novnc.py https://review.openstack.org/348584 | 15:39 |
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| mriedem | jroll: looks like your release notes / docs need updating too http://docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/ironic/newton.html#new-features | 15:39 |
| mriedem | Added network interface. Introduced two network interface implementations: flat, which replicates the flat network behavior present previously and noop when neutron is not used, which is basically a noop interface. | 15:39 |
| jroll | read one more bullet :) | 15:40 |
| jroll | we need to merge those before releasing | 15:40 |
| mriedem | heh yeah | 15:40 |
| mriedem | just noticed that | 15:40 |
| jroll | idk why we didn't just update it, but whatever, I review before release anyway | 15:40 |
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| jroll | mriedem: so on that spec, I'll just remove the portgroups etc stuff and we can propose a new one when we're ready for that | 15:41 |
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| mriedem | jroll: sounds good | 15:42 |
| jroll | I'll get both specs updated this week, hopefully sooner than later | 15:42 |
| jroll | today is meeting hell day | 15:42 |
| mriedem | oh wow you guys still have a sample config in tree https://github.com/openstack/ironic/blob/master/etc/ironic/ironic.conf.sample | 15:42 |
| dansmith | mriedem: what resolution are you looking for before unblocking the ironic multi-compute thing? | 15:42 |
| mriedem | looks like that's stale as well | 15:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Maciej Szankin proposed openstack/nova: Updated header flag in SSL opts https://review.openstack.org/348494 | 15:43 |
| JayF | mriedem: it shouldn't be? | 15:43 |
| jroll | mriedem: stale how | 15:43 |
| jroll | we update it pretty frequently | 15:43 |
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| mriedem | JayF: jroll: ? http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/ironic/tree/ironic/conf/default.py#n60 | 15:43 |
| JayF | mriedem: it gets regenerated anytime someone updates a config options; which for us was at least within the last week or two, as I had to regen it for metrics | 15:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Maciej Szankin proposed openstack/nova: Improve consistency in virt opts https://review.openstack.org/348461 | 15:43 |
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| JayF | hah | 15:43 |
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| jroll | mriedem: neutron isn't enabled by default because it requires additional config, iirc | 15:44 |
| * jroll does want to re-evaluate that | 15:44 | |
| mriedem | jroll: but shouldn't it be an option? | 15:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Maciej Szankin proposed openstack/nova: config options: Improve help for conductor https://review.openstack.org/324784 | 15:44 |
| jroll | mriedem: there's no options listed there? | 15:44 |
| jroll | that's the defaults | 15:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Maciej Szankin proposed openstack/nova: config options: improve help netconf https://review.openstack.org/319384 | 15:44 |
| mriedem | oh those are defaults | 15:44 |
| mriedem | i was looking for choices | 15:44 |
| jroll | yeah we should add choices | 15:44 |
| jroll | but it's pluggable | 15:44 |
| jroll | so idk how that works | 15:45 |
| jroll | choices=stevedore.list_entrypoints('ironic.hardware.interfaces.network') or something, might work | 15:45 |
| mriedem | kill pluggable :) | 15:45 |
| mriedem | anyway | 15:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Sarafraj Singh proposed openstack/nova: Remove redundant check from code https://review.openstack.org/350122 | 15:46 |
| jroll | I've never successfully convinced ironic folks to do something without it being pluggable :/ | 15:46 |
| mriedem | dansmith: the ironic multiple computes spec getting updated would be a start as a lot of the discussion happened at the midcycle and i for one am out of the loop on it | 15:46 |
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| mriedem | CI would be awesome but i'm not sure how easy that can be done | 15:47 |
| dansmith | mriedem: I thought we were going to post-update the spec.. it's not that far off as it stands | 15:47 |
| dansmith | the goal is pretty much right on, but the implementation part is different | 15:47 |
| mriedem | i should really just review the changes to get a better idea | 15:47 |
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| jroll | the spec update is going to be mostly copy/paste of the commit message | 15:48 |
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| jroll | with a bunch of "no impact" | 15:48 |
| dansmith | right | 15:48 |
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| sdague | woot - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348250/ is merged | 15:52 |
| sdague | danpb: that should clear the way for all the os-vif work | 15:52 |
| mriedem | sdague: nice, great job pushing on all of that | 15:53 |
| sdague | mriedem: thanks | 15:53 |
| danpb | sdague: ok, so just need to wait for nova requirements.txt update, right ? | 15:53 |
| sdague | danpb: nope | 15:53 |
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| sdague | that will come, but you should be good to go without it | 15:53 |
| danpb | ah ok nice | 15:53 |
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| mriedem | i was asking myself yesterday why the os-vif integration patch in nova never failed grenade | 15:54 |
| mriedem | like the os-brick changes did | 15:54 |
| mriedem | one was becaues we don't run the neutron grenade job in the check queue for nova | 15:54 |
| mriedem | it's in experimental though so i had rechecked on that on that patch yesterday, haven't gone back to check results yet though | 15:54 |
| mriedem | oh, well, and that job wouldn't be using os-vif would it...? | 15:54 |
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| danpb | mriedem: i thought os-brick didn't actually fail because CI runs with allow-all for sudo | 15:54 |
| sdague | danpb: no, CI doesn't run that way | 15:55 |
| mriedem | i meant grenade failed with os-brick 1.4.0 everywhere | 15:55 |
| mriedem | b/c of privsep | 15:55 |
| mriedem | but we didn't have the same issue with grenade in the nova os-vif change | 15:55 |
| sdague | and os-brick did fail CI | 15:55 |
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| sdague | mriedem: I'm not sure that's true, however, we also deleted some devstack config setting so anything that fails to work with privsep defaults will fail on the main jobs as well now | 15:56 |
| danpb | mriedem: you want to remove the -1 on this now the rootwrap stuff is merged https://review.openstack.org/#/c/269672/ | 15:56 |
| mriedem | http://logs.openstack.org/72/269672/25/experimental/gate-grenade-dsvm-neutron-ubuntu-trusty/be733f3/ | 15:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Refactor deallocate_fixed tests to use one mock approach instead of three https://review.openstack.org/347893 | 15:56 |
| mriedem | danpb: done | 15:57 |
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| mriedem | danpb: i'll do my damndest to review that today too | 15:57 |
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| mriedem | danpb: so what's the difference with the gate-tempest-dsvm-nova-os-vif-nv job? that just uses LIBS_FROM_GIT=os-vif? | 15:58 |
| mriedem | i guess not LIBS_FROM_GIT= | 15:58 |
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| sdague | danpb: one thing on that, we have the whitelist now for privsep-helper, it's probably worth deleting the rootwrap rule entirely, because it's existance will likely confuse folks thinking changing it changes things. | 15:59 |
| mriedem | god http://logs.openstack.org/72/269672/25/experimental/gate-grenade-dsvm-neutron-ubuntu-trusty/be733f3/logs/new/screen-n-cpu.txt.gz?level=TRACE#_2016-08-01_23_49_31_687 | 15:59 |
| mriedem | sdague: ^ we're going to have to sort out with gus the warnings as debug logging | 15:59 |
| danpb | sdague: yes, good point | 15:59 |
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| sdague | danpb: plus the edit will give us refreshed tests with the whitelisting in place, so we can see that everything is working still. | 16:00 |
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| sdague | mriedem: yeh... agree. I'm trying to come up with sane neutron devstack defaults right now though... you know as a relaxation technique | 16:01 |
| mriedem | sdague: just do some deep breathing exercises | 16:01 |
| openstackgerrit | STEW TY proposed openstack/nova: Check option indentations for novnc.py https://review.openstack.org/348584 | 16:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrey Kurilin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Create keystone session instance if possible https://review.openstack.org/304035 | 16:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrey Kurilin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Make SessionClient interface similar to HTTPClient https://review.openstack.org/350140 | 16:06 |
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| jroll | mriedem: looky what I found! http://docs.openstack.org/admin-guide/baremetal-multitenancy.html | 16:07 |
| jroll | I love surprises like this | 16:07 |
| mriedem | ha who did that? | 16:08 |
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| jroll | vsaienk0 did, apparently | 16:09 |
| jroll | that dude rocks | 16:09 |
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| mriedem | danpb: i'm leavinga few comments in the os-vif change, probably won't get all of the way through it before lunch (in 15 min) | 16:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Anusha Unnam proposed openstack/nova: Improve help text for floating ips options. https://review.openstack.org/318309 | 16:18 |
| mriedem | jaypipes: alaski: you guys were +2 before https://review.openstack.org/#/c/297895/ | 16:18 |
| mriedem | bp is re-approved for FFE | 16:18 |
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| danpb | mriedem: lemme upload a new version before you continue | 16:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrey Kurilin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Create keystone session instance if possible https://review.openstack.org/304035 | 16:19 |
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| mriedem | danpb: k, i'll get the rest this afternoon | 16:19 |
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| andreykurilin | mriedem sdague: hi! If you will have free time, please take a look at chain of patches in novaclient - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/350106/ . It is about improvement of novaclient + keystone integration . Thanks | 16:20 |
| jaypipes | jroll, mriedem: +W'd | 16:21 |
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| jroll | oh snap | 16:21 |
| jroll | you just made a lot of people happy | 16:21 |
| jroll | <3 | 16:21 |
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| mriedem | sdague: fyi https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1609039 | 16:22 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1609039 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Should not be able to sort instances based on joined tables" [Undecided,New] | 16:22 |
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| mriedem | sdague: also, can you check alex_xu's comment in this thread and my reply? http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-August/100608.html - i was going to start writing the spec for that api proxy deprecation today | 16:23 |
| mriedem | so it's ready for the api subteam meeting tomorrow | 16:23 |
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| sdague | I'll put in the queue, but I'm trying to keep what I'm learning about neutron devstack in my head atm to make some progress there | 16:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Daniel Berrange proposed openstack/nova: os-vif: convert libvirt driver to use os-vif library https://review.openstack.org/269672 | 16:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ludovic Beliveau proposed openstack/nova: Fix drop_move_claim() on revert resize https://review.openstack.org/349060 | 16:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Timofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova: nfs fix for xenial images https://review.openstack.org/329466 | 16:37 |
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| andrewbogott | ValidationError: There are still 3 unmigrated flavor records. Migration cannot continue until all instance flavor records have been migrated to the new format. Please run `nova-manage db migrate_flavor_data' first. | 16:43 |
| andrewbogott | And yet, there is no such command :( | 16:43 |
| andrewbogott | This is a kilo->liberty upgrade | 16:43 |
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| dansmith | andrewbogott: you mean no such command in liberty right? | 16:44 |
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| andrewbogott | correct | 16:45 |
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| dansmith | andrewbogott: it was kilo homework, required to be done by liberty, which means the command is gone in liberty (since liberty code depends on it being done) | 16:45 |
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| dansmith | (if I'm remembering my sequencing properly) | 16:46 |
| andrewbogott | dansmith: ok, but the kilo db sync didn't tell me to run it | 16:46 |
| andrewbogott | I didn't know that there was such a thing until AFTER I upgradet to liberty | 16:46 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, it should have happened during the j->k I think: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/stable/liberty/nova/db/sqlalchemy/migrate_repo/versions/291_enforce_flavors_migrated.py | 16:46 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: well, in K | 16:46 |
| dansmith | but yeah | 16:46 |
| dansmith | "whilst running K" | 16:46 |
| andrewbogott | so… the answer is "you should have somehow known to do this, now you're wrecked" | 16:46 |
| johnthetubaguy | k should have given you that warning when you ran the db migrations with the k code right? | 16:47 |
| dansmith | andrewbogott: no, you read the release notes right? | 16:47 |
| andrewbogott | Yep | 16:47 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: no | 16:47 |
| andrewbogott | Anyway, ok, I'm in the middle of a deploy window so no time to complain, I'll hack around this I guess | 16:47 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: ah, right, we tell you next cycle, true | 16:47 |
| dansmith | andrewbogott: bullet 4: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Kilo#Upgrade_Notes_2 | 16:48 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: we enforce it next cycle since the code is dropped | 16:48 |
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| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: with the unified command we have now it's a little more obvious when you still have stuff to do I think | 16:48 |
| andrewbogott | 2014.1.4 is kilo, isn't it? | 16:49 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: yeah, sorry, got the ordering wrong in my head, someone else asked about this when skipping a release, which hits other issues | 16:49 |
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| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: yeah | 16:50 |
| cfriesen_ | andrewbogott: isn't that juno? | 16:50 |
| dansmith | 2014.1 is icehouse | 16:50 |
| andrewbogott | ok, maybe. I'm digging up an old backup controller to see if I can find that migration command | 16:50 |
| dansmith | 2015.1 is kilo | 16:50 |
| cfriesen_ | yeah, icehouse | 16:50 |
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| cfriesen_ | is anyone aware of a way to boot an instance on a newer libvirt/qemu such that it can be migrated to an older one? Or is it strictly and absolutely a one-way thing? | 16:51 |
| johnthetubaguy | cfriesen_: I didn't think that works / isn't tested, but danpb would know better than me | 16:52 |
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| cfriesen_ | johnthetubaguy: yeah, I would imagine it doesn't work in the general case, but I was wondering if you forced a specific machine type or something... | 16:53 |
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| danpb | cfriesen_: you have to explicitly tell it to use an older machine type basicaly | 16:53 |
| danpb | ie find the lowest common denominator machine type across all your machines | 16:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/os-vif: WIP: Adds Windows support for OvsPlugin https://review.openstack.org/344433 | 16:55 |
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| cfriesen_ | danpb: okay, thanks. | 16:55 |
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| danpb | mriedem: can you +1 this for me https://review.openstack.org/#/c/347808/ | 16:57 |
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| cfriesen_ | danpb: once all hosts are running the newer qemu, can I live-migrate from an older machine type to a newer one? (i.e. remove the forcing of the specific machine type) | 17:00 |
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| danpb | cfriesen_: nope - machine type encodes a hardware ABI | 17:09 |
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| danpb | cfriesen_: basically you have to assume old machine types will never be dropped by the QEMU binary of your host OS | 17:10 |
| danpb | cfriesen_: otherwise you'll eventually have to restart the guest from scratch to get to a new machine type | 17:10 |
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| danpb | cfriesen_: this is an area where using upstream QEMU is rather sucky in general - it tries to maintain machine type compat but has often had bugs which broke it | 17:11 |
| danpb | cfriesen_: RHEL KVM/QEMU does much better at guaranteeing machine type compat across releases | 17:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Anusha Unnam proposed openstack/nova: Remove deprecated manager option in cells.py https://review.openstack.org/348039 | 17:11 |
| danpb | (mostly because it is actually tested in RHEL :-) | 17:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michael Glaser proposed openstack/nova: Check opt consistency for neutron.py https://review.openstack.org/349605 | 17:12 |
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| mriedem | danpb: done | 17:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Brian Haley proposed openstack/nova: Implement setup_networks_on_host for Neutron networks https://review.openstack.org/275073 | 17:31 |
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| dansmith | jaypipes: I just want to make sure that this is still supposed to be -W? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/334031/5 | 17:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Maciej Szankin proposed openstack/nova: Updated flags for XVP config options https://review.openstack.org/349691 | 17:31 |
| dansmith | I know you just re-added it this morning, but.. | 17:31 |
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| dansmith | the other stack from cdent is also -W, so it would appear to me that nothing is really review-able or landable in either stack at the moment | 17:32 |
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| cfriesen_ | danpb: thanks for the info, it's helpful. One last question...how does it work to live-migration from older to newer hypervisor? does the newer one figure out which machine type was used as part of the live migration process, or does it need to be explicitly specified? | 17:33 |
| danpb | cfriesen_: libvirt always fully encodes all the data in the xml and passes it over | 17:33 |
| danpb | cfriesen_: eg if you define an XML file with no machine type listed, you'll see libvirt filled in an explicitly versioned machine type | 17:34 |
| danpb | so the target host won't accidentally try to run the vm with a newer machine type than was used on the old host | 17:34 |
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| cfriesen_ | danpb: that makes sense. thanks. | 17:35 |
| danpb | its not just machine types btw - this is why libvirt fills in pci addresses etc in the xml | 17:35 |
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| danpb | as you don't want devices moving address during migration ;-) | 17:35 |
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| cfriesen_ | danpb: yeah, that would be bad. :) | 17:37 |
| jaypipes | sdake: dansmith yeah, still working on it. | 17:37 |
| dansmith | jaypipes: okay just makin' sure | 17:38 |
| maestropandy | Is there way to copy security group to create in another tenant, pls suggest | 17:38 |
| dansmith | maestropandy: see topic | 17:38 |
| mriedem | danpb: any issue with making this an enum field? https://github.com/openstack/os-vif/blob/1.0.0/os_vif/objects/vif.py#L37 | 17:38 |
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| mriedem | danpb: or are the plugins pluggable? | 17:38 |
| maestropandy | dansmith: which topic ? | 17:38 |
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| dansmith | maestropandy: the topic of this channel, likely at the top of your screen | 17:39 |
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| dansmith | maestropandy: "This channel is for Nova development. For support of Nova deployments, please use #openstack. Please see: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Newton_Release_Schedule" | 17:39 |
| maestropandy | dansmith: oh sorry, I didn't notice | 17:39 |
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| danpb | mriedem: plugins are entirely arbitrarily defined | 17:44 |
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| danpb | mriedem: and we explicitly do *not* want to have to do a lock-step upgrade of os-vif each time someone creates a new plugin | 17:44 |
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| sdake | dansmith which was your requesst | 17:46 |
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| dansmith | sdake: eh? | 17:46 |
| sdake | dansmith or was that another sdague tab typo :) | 17:46 |
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| sdake | [10:37:53] <jaypipes>sdake: dansmith yeah, still working on it. | 17:47 |
| sdake | nm msg from jaypipes | 17:47 |
| sdake | not sure what that was about - probably a sdague typo | 17:47 |
| sdake | enjoy | 17:47 |
| jaypipes | sdake: yeah, sorry... | 17:47 |
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| maestropandy | sorry to interupt development discussion, quickly can somone give me idea "to export/share/copy nova security group to create in another tenant" as like cinder transfer with host copy. at present if not there, can take as feature to do in next cycle release, because all private cloud openstack users will have testing,staging & production setup which are similar where building with other openstack components are easier except this nova security gr | 17:51 |
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| mriedem | danpok, i've gotten through os_vif_util and testes | 17:53 |
| mriedem | *tests | 17:53 |
| mriedem | oh he left | 17:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Moshe Levi proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add spec to enhance PCI passthrough whitelist to support regex https://review.openstack.org/350211 | 18:12 |
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| mriedem | jaypipes: why is he doing config stuff for all of these non-bridge/ovs types in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/269672/26/nova/virt/libvirt/vif.py like vhostuser, direct, etc? | 18:19 |
| mriedem | jaypipes: since os_vif_util doesn't support those types yet? | 18:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Pushkar Umaranikar proposed openstack/nova: Config options: Consistency check for remote_debug options https://review.openstack.org/349612 | 18:19 |
| jaypipes | mriedem: yeah. | 18:21 |
| jaypipes | mriedem: hold up, no. | 18:21 |
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| jaypipes | mriedem: config stuff in libvirt XML remains only in Nova. os-vif doesn't do that at all. | 18:21 |
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| mriedem | where are the linuxbridge and ovs plugins for os-vif? | 18:24 |
| mriedem | i thought those were in the os-vif tree? | 18:24 |
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| mriedem | as reference impls | 18:24 |
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| jaypipes | mriedem: they are. as is vhostuser | 18:24 |
| jaypipes | mriedem: I'm saying that the XML configuration cruft remains in Nova only. os-vif doesn't do any of the XML stuff. | 18:25 |
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| mriedem | i don't see any plugin code in https://github.com/openstack/os-vif/tree/1.0.0/os_vif | 18:26 |
| mriedem | i'm also not sure how plug/unplug tests are working on any of the newstyle os-vif objects in test_vif | 18:27 |
| jaypipes | mriedem: look in the root dir: https://github.com/openstack/os-vif/tree/1.0.0 | 18:28 |
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| jaypipes | mriedem: tests for each plugin are in the respective plugin dirs. | 18:28 |
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| mriedem | jaypipes: yeah i was just looking at the tests removed from https://review.openstack.org/#/c/269672/26/nova/tests/unit/virt/libvirt/test_vif.py | 18:30 |
| mriedem | but like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/269672/26/nova/virt/libvirt/vif.py@1054 - we have no unit test coverage in test_vif for that as far as I can tell | 18:31 |
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| lbeliveau | jaypipes: I addressed your comment on the unit test, whenever you have a chance https://review.openstack.org/#/c/328983 | 18:33 |
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| jaypipes | mriedem: will look shortly... | 18:41 |
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| cfriesen_ | danpb: if you're around...is it possible to live-migrate from vanilla qemu to RHEL qemu? It seems like RHEL has renamed all the machine types to include "rhel" in the name. | 18:47 |
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| mriedem | jaypipes: he doesn't test the changes to the vif module | 18:55 |
| mriedem | i pulled it down and threw an exception in there http://paste.openstack.org/show/545721/ and everything passed | 18:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ryan Selden proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Improve character encoding in client messages https://review.openstack.org/350230 | 18:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michael Turek proposed openstack/nova: Ironic: use portgroups https://review.openstack.org/206163 | 19:06 |
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| dansmith | alaski or jaypipes: one of you want to hit these trivial setup patches for the ironic thing? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/349581/2 | 19:09 |
| dansmith | just need a +W | 19:09 |
| dansmith | then we're in striking distance of the ironic multicompute thing | 19:09 |
| alaski | looking | 19:10 |
| dansmith | don't look, just +W | 19:10 |
| alaski | I used to know the keyboard shortcuts for that, now at the very least I have to find the buttons for it since gerrit changed | 19:11 |
| dansmith | heh | 19:12 |
| dansmith | alaski: I think I'm +2 on everything you have that is ready right? | 19:12 |
| lmtaylor2 | when does revert_resize in the manager.py get called? Is it called when there is a failure that occured during resize? | 19:13 |
| alaski | I believe so | 19:13 |
| alaski | dansmith: ^ | 19:13 |
| dansmith | lmtaylor2: no, it is called when someone runs the revert command from the client, after a successful resize | 19:13 |
| lmtaylor2 | ah so there is no sort of revert or rollback if a resize fails | 19:14 |
| lmtaylor2 | just to make sure i get this | 19:14 |
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| dansmith | lmtaylor2: no, that's not what I said, I just said that it's not the the manager method you asked about | 19:15 |
| mriedem | why don't we default resume_guests_state_on_host_boot=True? | 19:16 |
| mriedem | seems like that would be useful | 19:16 |
| dansmith | mriedem: it can generate a storm of traffic if you power a rack or room back on after a failure | 19:17 |
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| dansmith | and, if you're bringing up a host after a failure but don't want to include it in the cluster yet, starting a bunch of instances is a lot of work | 19:17 |
| dansmith | so I would normally think we'd want that off by default | 19:18 |
| mriedem | hmmm | 19:18 |
| mriedem | we hit that at like 3am today on one of our computes | 19:18 |
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| mriedem | host was rebooted, ~45 vms didn't come back up | 19:18 |
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| mriedem | started getting tickets about why people's vms were stopped, found the sync_power_states task was turning them off | 19:19 |
| dansmith | when we have that, our ops go through and restart them in batches, AFAICT | 19:19 |
| mriedem | well, it was saying it was turning them off, but was really just reconciling the nova db | 19:19 |
| dansmith | if this was cloud, I'd say whatever you have managing your resources would have noticed that they were off and evacuated or restarted them as necessary | 19:20 |
| lmtaylor2 | dansmith: is there any call/method for when a resize fails? what's the method that cleans up a failed resize? | 19:21 |
| dansmith | but I'm guessing you're referring to pets people spawned a year ago and expect to run forever :) | 19:22 |
| mriedem | dansmith: whatever you have managing your resources....yeah... | 19:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrey Shestakov proposed openstack/nova: Add support of detach interface for ironic https://review.openstack.org/347410 | 19:22 |
| mriedem | we don't actually know, india was handling it over night :) | 19:22 |
| dansmith | mriedem: hah | 19:22 |
| dansmith | lmtaylor2: depends on where it failed... | 19:23 |
| mriedem | 12 hours later someone asks the guy across the table from me | 19:23 |
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| lmtaylor2 | say it fails in a driver's finish_migration method? | 19:28 |
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| dansmith | lmtaylor2: then you run this code and error the instance: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/manager.py#L3937-L3946 | 19:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Alex Szarka proposed openstack/nova: Disable multiple whitespaces https://review.openstack.org/349471 | 19:32 |
| mriedem | jaypipes: these os-vif config options need to be set in nova.conf right? https://github.com/openstack/os-vif/blob/1.0.0/vif_plug_ovs/ovs.py#L42 | 19:32 |
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| mriedem | jaypipes: also, shouldn't the os-vif job be running neutron? it's running nova-net http://logs.openstack.org/72/269672/25/experimental/gate-tempest-dsvm-nova-os-vif-nv/8555fe8/logs/ | 19:35 |
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| mriedem | carl_baldwin: besides the bug fix for handling that neutronclient port binding failure (wrong segment), did you expect any other feature changes in newton for routed networks besides this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/299591/ | 20:21 |
| mriedem | carl_baldwin: else i'm going to mark the bp as partially complete for newton | 20:21 |
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| carl_baldwin | mriedem: No, nothing after that. We're busy working on stuff for Ocata in this area (e.g. grp usage). | 20:24 |
| mriedem | carl_baldwin: ok, cool | 20:24 |
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| carl_baldwin | mriedem: Thank you | 20:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Anush Krishnamurthy proposed openstack/nova: Deprecate cert option https://review.openstack.org/348055 | 21:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrey Kurilin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Create keystone session instance if possible https://review.openstack.org/304035 | 21:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrey Kurilin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Make SessionClient interface similar to HTTPClient https://review.openstack.org/350140 | 21:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrey Kurilin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Deprecate several variables https://review.openstack.org/350106 | 21:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova-specs: Deprecate os-interface proxy API https://review.openstack.org/350277 | 21:25 |
| mriedem | sdague: ^ | 21:25 |
| sdague | ok, I'll look in the morning, need to go fire up the grill | 21:26 |
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| stewie925_ | hi guys, I am having an issue with a nova commit to gerrit - I am getting this 'error: src refspec HEAD:refs/publish/master/topic does not match any' | 21:50 |
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| stewie925_ | all I did was ran a git pull to refresh my local nova repo with remote repository, then create a new branch and make/save changes, did a "git add", and "git commit" (first commit for this change) | 21:52 |
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| stewie925_ | but when I tried to do 'git review -t <topic name that already exists in gerrit>, i got the "src refspec HEAD:refs/publish/master/topic does not match any'" error | 21:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jim Rollenhagen proposed openstack/nova-specs: Re-re-propose ironic-multiple-compute-hosts https://review.openstack.org/350283 | 21:55 |
| jroll | dansmith: ^ | 21:56 |
| openstackgerrit | STEW TY proposed openstack/nova: Check option indent and registration for xenserver.py https://review.openstack.org/350284 | 21:56 |
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| stewie925_ | i found the issue - there was a typo in the topic name that caused the error | 21:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michael Glaser proposed openstack/nova: Check opt consistency for neutron.py https://review.openstack.org/349605 | 21:59 |
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| dansmith | jroll: one question inline | 22:33 |
| jroll | dansmith: noted, I'll reply in the morning, was just leaving | 22:34 |
| dansmith | cool | 22:35 |
| jroll | thanks for the review | 22:36 |
| dansmith | yup | 22:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova: rt: Refactor resize_claim unit test https://review.openstack.org/349746 | 22:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova: rt: Refactor resize claim abort unit test https://review.openstack.org/350292 | 22:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova: rt: Remove duplicate unit test for missing mig ctx https://review.openstack.org/350293 | 22:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Anusha Unnam proposed openstack/nova: Disassociate floating ip when fixed ip is removed https://review.openstack.org/350299 | 22:48 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: poke https://review.openstack.org/#/c/330174/ | 23:23 |
| mriedem | i'm trying to go through stable/mitaka stuff for a release | 23:23 |
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| dansmith | done | 23:24 |
| mriedem | <# | 23:25 |
| mriedem | er <3 | 23:25 |
| mriedem | vmware subteam 404 | 23:26 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/342786/ | 23:26 |
| dansmith | yikes | 23:27 |
| mriedem | well ^ was proposed for mitaka first, just need the change on master reviewed by the subteam | 23:28 |
| jaypipes | dansmith: 314781 wallaby'd. | 23:28 |
| mriedem | garyk had poked at it once | 23:28 |
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| mriedem | browne: ^ | 23:30 |
| mriedem | gjayavelu: ^ | 23:30 |
| gjayavelu | mriedem: looking at it | 23:30 |
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| dansmith | jaypipes: are you sure? am I waiting for a gertty sync? :P | 23:58 |
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| mriedem | sfinucan: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/337107/ was meant to fix shelve/unshelve in intel nfv ci but it's still failng those tests in stable/mitaka with the intel nfv ci | 23:59 |
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