Friday, 2016-03-25

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openstackgerritDevananda van der Veen proposed openstack/nova: Allow ironic driver to specify cafile  https://review.openstack.org/29746700:06
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openstackgerritDevananda van der Veen proposed openstack/nova: Allow ironic driver to specify cafile  https://review.openstack.org/29746700:09
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aNupoiscmriedem: ok yes. But the file structure - rest api stuff under nova/api, scheduler stuff under nova/scheduler is this anywhere in Makefile or somewhere?00:11
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mriedemaNupoisc: nope00:12
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aNupoiscmriedem: Okay thanks a lot for giving all details. Appreciate it00:13
mriedemyw00:13
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auggyhrm looks like the current translation patch failed intel-nfv-ci check00:18
auggyhttp://intel-openstack-ci-logs.ovh/compute-ci/refs/changes/21/293921/8/compute-nfv-flavors/20160324_190643/tempest/scenario-on-nfv-flavors/testr_results.html00:18
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auggyi'm looking into it00:18
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* tonyb offically welcomne our new overlord^WPTL 00:19
openstackgerritDevananda van der Veen proposed openstack/nova: Allow ironic driver to specify cafile  https://review.openstack.org/29746700:19
auggycongrats mriedem !00:19
tonybhttp://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-March/090422.html00:19
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mriedemauggy: intel nfv ci has been failing a lot lately, starting to ignore it00:22
auggymriedem: yeah i know, but just in case i want to double check00:22
mriedemauggy: thanks00:23
mriedemtonyb: back at you00:23
auggyif there's a bug or something already then i just want to add my $.0200:23
tonybmriedem: Thanks :)00:23
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mriedemtonyb: so i'll dump that whole extending stable/kilo EOL by 6 months thing on you at the summit and then vamoose00:24
tonybmriedem: Ummm yeah thanks for that :)00:24
tonybmriedem: I suspect there will be some "robust discussion"00:24
mriedemi'm assuming rax private cloud has a support contract for longer than 2 years per release, so it's probably in your best interest to support extending it00:25
tonybmriedem: That is a very murky assumption but one that I'm trying to clarify.00:25
tonybmriedem: regardless I think adding a clear expectation around extension is a good plan.00:26
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tonybI'm supposed to be on vacation ! /me bails00:28
alaskimriedem: so is my opposition to the vif thing reasonable, or is that just how it is and we need to accept it00:28
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mriedemalaski: i think it's reasonable,00:30
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mriedemalaski: i was on some other vmware / nsx neutron plugin vif custom key review the other day00:30
mriedemit just seems to be a big random dict of stuff that each backend can provide and you do what you will with it00:31
mriedemunversioned and all00:31
alaskibleh00:32
mriedemi think of it like if we externalized instance.system_metadata00:32
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alaskiwhat a mess. A random dict of stuff is not an interface00:34
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tbachmanalaski: mriedem: not trying to kick a hornets nest here00:36
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alaskino, I get what you're trying to do. there just doesn't seem to be a proper way to do it00:37
mriedemalaski: well, i thought os-vif was going to deal with some of the unversioned part of it00:38
mriedemalaski: i haven't dug into those changes yet to see though00:38
alaskiyeah, I'm not too familiar with what that brings00:38
tbachmanmriedem: is that merged/available?00:38
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tbachmanI can look into that00:38
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alaskitbachman: https://github.com/openstack/os-vif00:40
tbachmanalaski: thx!00:40
alaskiI don't know where we're at with integrating it though00:40
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mriedemalaski: haven't seen any code changes for nova under the blueprint00:43
mriedemtbachman: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/newton/approved/os-vif-library.html00:43
tbachmanmriedem: will have a look there too — thx!00:43
mriedemhttps://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/os-vif+status:open00:43
mriedemalaski: if you have the time, might want to look at this rc regression fix from bauzas https://review.openstack.org/#/c/297387/00:44
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openstackgerritDevananda van der Veen proposed openstack/nova: Allow ironic driver to specify cafile  https://review.openstack.org/29746700:47
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openstackgerritKen'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Swagger prototype  https://review.openstack.org/29614600:50
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alaskimriedem: commented, feel free to +W if it needs to get in00:56
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mriedemalaski: i wondered about that myself, will let bauzas reply01:01
mriedemdon't think we're doing rc3 until next week anyway01:01
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alaskiokay, cool01:03
armaxmriedem: ping01:03
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armaxnova-compute is diying on grenade jobs for neutron :/01:04
openstackgerritLi Yingjun proposed openstack/nova-specs: Pagination for hypervisor spec  https://review.openstack.org/28220901:04
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mriedemarmax: link?01:05
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wznoinskmriedem, intel-nfv-ci green after recent fixes01:06
armaxgot two01:06
armaxmriedem: http://logs.openstack.org/27/297127/1/check/gate-grenade-dsvm-neutron/7d5ed7b/logs/grenade.sh.txt.gz01:06
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armaxmriedem: http://logs.openstack.org/27/297127/1/gate/gate-grenade-dsvm-neutron/c862b2e/01:06
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armaxgrenade stops during the create phase01:06
armaxand if I look for n-cpu process there aren’t any running01:06
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armaxbut there’s no clear indication of failures in the compute log01:07
armaxI am digging01:07
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mriedemlooks like it's on the 'new' side which would be mitaka in this case01:08
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mriedemwtf, no service logs http://logs.openstack.org/27/297127/1/check/gate-grenade-dsvm-neutron/7d5ed7b/logs/new/01:08
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armaxmriedem: ya :(01:09
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armaxI have a stalled env here:01:09
armaxhttps://jenkins05.openstack.org/job/gate-grenade-dsvm-neutron/5386/console01:09
armaxif that’s of any help01:09
armaxmaybe we can seize the vm before it gets recycled01:09
armaxbut it’s close to hit the timeout01:10
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mriedemi'm wondering if grenade is ready to go for stable/liberty->stable/mitaka,01:13
mriedemi.e. is it going from stable/liberty to master?01:13
armaxmriedem: this used to work fine until today01:13
armaxboth in stable/mitaka and master01:14
mriedemarmax: well, i think they created the stable/mitaka branch for grenade today01:14
armaxoh01:14
mriedemi'm not sure though, this is sdague's baby01:14
mriedemmtreinish might be able to help, i'm checking the grenade code01:14
mriedembut my guess would be a branch value is not set somewhere01:14
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mriedemhmm, wtf http://logs.openstack.org/27/297127/1/check/gate-grenade-dsvm-neutron/7d5ed7b/logs/grenade.sh.txt.gz#_2016-03-24_20_33_03_55901:15
mriedemgit_clone git://git.openstack.org/openstack/requirements.git /opt/stack/old/requirements stable/kilo01:15
mriedemthis seems to think it's stable/liberty01:16
mriedemlike, kilo->liberty01:16
armaxthat would explain it somehow01:16
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mriedemarmax: https://github.com/openstack-dev/grenade/blob/stable/mitaka/grenaderc#L3401:18
mriedemhmm, although that's also master for stable/liberty https://github.com/openstack-dev/grenade/blob/stable/liberty/grenaderc#L3401:18
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mriedemwell, sdague is done for the day01:19
mriedemmtreinish is probably in severe jetlag coming back from asia01:19
mriedemdansmith is grenade core i think, we could probably harass him01:19
mriedemarmax: is there anything special about the job config? like anything hard-coded in project-config for this? or hooks in neutron?01:20
armaxI am trying to find out01:20
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armaxmriedem: this is a log from a good run01:20
armaxhttp://logs.openstack.org/30/296630/1/check/gate-grenade-dsvm-neutron/6ba12a8/logs/grenade.sh.txt.gz01:20
mriedemthis is totally wrong http://logs.openstack.org/27/297127/1/check/gate-grenade-dsvm-neutron/7d5ed7b/logs/grenade_localrc.txt.gz01:20
mriedemyeah, compare that to http://logs.openstack.org/30/296630/1/check/gate-grenade-dsvm-neutron/6ba12a8/logs/grenade_localrc.txt.gz01:21
armaxit flipped back to kilo01:21
armaxfor whatever reason01:21
mriedemyeah...01:21
armaxfor the BASE_DEVSTACK_BRANCH01:22
mriedemso we have to find what defines those vars01:22
mriedemi'll start by looking for the job config01:22
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mriedemseems normal in project-config01:24
armaxI didn’t see anything that went in the repo during the last 24 hours01:25
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mriedemlet's move to -infra01:27
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: config options: centralize section: "glance"  https://review.openstack.org/25715301:34
dansmithmriedem: what's up?01:34
mriedemdansmith: just sdague playing an april fool's joke early01:36
dansmithdoesn't much sound like him :)01:36
mriedemdansmith: spot the bug? https://github.com/openstack-infra/devstack-gate/commit/be06eea9ec7d2b947373e9209f353e11da4e2d1101:36
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dansmithoopsie01:36
dansmithwho the hell approved this crap?01:36
dansmithoh heh01:37
dansmithI thought it was me actually01:37
tbachmanpy!spy01:37
tbachmanoops01:37
tbachmanpy!hist01:37
tbachmanwhat are those commands?01:37
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tbachmanp!hist01:38
dansmithmriedem: so I can't  help you on d-g stuff01:38
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mriedemdansmith: nope, go back to your road warrior marathon01:39
dansmithum, right01:40
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* mriedem calls it a day01:42
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mtreinishmriedem: I'm fine, I don't have any jetlag01:50
mtreinishI was only gone for ~1 week01:50
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openstackgerritShiina, Hironori proposed openstack/nova: Fix types in document  https://review.openstack.org/29748902:05
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openstackgerritAnh Tran proposed openstack/nova: Removes some redundant words  https://review.openstack.org/29692802:12
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova-specs: Expose quiesce/unquiesce API  https://review.openstack.org/29559502:19
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openstackgerritShiina, Hironori proposed openstack/nova: Fix typos in document  https://review.openstack.org/29748902:26
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: config options: centralize section: "glance"  https://review.openstack.org/25715302:38
openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Add checks for volume status when rebuilding  https://review.openstack.org/21756702:38
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: config options: centralize section: "glance"  https://review.openstack.org/25715306:23
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/29392106:32
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openstackgerritesracelik proposed openstack/nova: Improve the help text for cells options (7)  https://review.openstack.org/27892707:50
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: config options: centralize section: "glance"  https://review.openstack.org/25715308:13
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openstackgerritRadoslav Gerganov proposed openstack/nova-specs: VMware: add support for Virtual Volumes  https://review.openstack.org/29756908:16
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bauwsergood morning Nova08:16
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openstackgerritesracelik proposed openstack/nova: Improve the help text for configdrive options  https://review.openstack.org/26687508:18
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: config options: centralize section: "glance"  https://review.openstack.org/25715308:37
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: config options: centralize section: "glance"  https://review.openstack.org/25715308:41
openstackgerritRadoslav Gerganov proposed openstack/nova: VMware: add support for VVOL datastores  https://review.openstack.org/29757408:42
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openstackgerritRadoslav Gerganov proposed openstack/nova-specs: VMware: add support for Virtual Volumes  https://review.openstack.org/29756908:46
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Remove deprecated glance options  https://review.openstack.org/29757808:55
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avte_hi, all, I want to ask a help, that is,  what is means of "workflow" label in gerrit web? and what conditions must be met if a bp want to have "workflow +1"?09:00
avte_thank you09:00
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openstackgerritRadoslav Gerganov proposed openstack/nova: VMware: Use datastore copy when the image is already in vSphere  https://review.openstack.org/18671609:10
openstackgerritRadoslav Gerganov proposed openstack/nova: VMware: create temp parent directory when booting sparse image  https://review.openstack.org/28926909:10
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_gryfavte_, you can find the information on the process here: http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/developers.html scroll down to the 'Project Gating' to find the exact answer for your question09:13
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avte_<_gryf> ok, thank you09:14
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_gryfavte_, you're welcome09:18
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openstackgerritRong Han proposed openstack/nova: [libvirt]modify _get_instance_disk_info  https://review.openstack.org/29759809:45
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Remove deprecated glance options  https://review.openstack.org/29757810:03
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openstackgerritPawel Koniszewski proposed openstack/nova: Cold migrate using the RequestSpec object  https://review.openstack.org/28497410:57
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openstackgerritPawel Koniszewski proposed openstack/nova: Cold migrate using the RequestSpec object  https://review.openstack.org/28497410:58
pkoniszewskibauwser: ^, I think it's ready for review10:58
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bauwserpkoniszewski: ack, will take a look today if possible11:03
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openstackgerritPawel Koniszewski proposed openstack/nova: Cold migrate using the RequestSpec object  https://review.openstack.org/28497411:36
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bauwserpkoniszewski: erh, was just commenting out, but okay, will move my comments :p11:39
pkoniszewskibauwser: had to repair authors, because i messed it up11:39
pkoniszewskibauwser: you can leave comments at PS8 and -1 PS911:40
bauwserpkoniszewski: nah no worries :p11:41
openstackgerritRadoslav Gerganov proposed openstack/nova: VMware: Factor out relocate_vm()  https://review.openstack.org/27011511:41
openstackgerritRadoslav Gerganov proposed openstack/nova: VMware: Live migration of instances  https://review.openstack.org/27011611:41
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lasciibauwser: on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/297387/1/nova/objects/request_spec.py12:40
lasciiI just want to discuss the expectations of the request_spec and moves12:40
lasciishouldn't the request_spec reflect the last thing the scheduler used, not the first?12:41
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figleaflascii: I always assumed that it was the original request12:42
* figleaf sees request_spec morphing into a list...12:43
lasciidoesn't that seem odd since after a few moves it may not reflect reality?12:43
lasciiI guess I'm not understanding why the first request is important to keep around12:43
figleaflascii: because that's what the user requested?12:44
figleaflascii: anything after that is usually admin/internal stuff?12:44
bauwserlascii: sorry was out for lunch12:44
lasciibauwser: unacceptable12:44
bauwserlascii: heh12:44
lasciifigleaf: I expect that if an admin moves an instance somewhere there's a reason and we should persist the constraints it used12:45
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bauwser:p12:45
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bauwsermeh, http://images.cuisineaz.com/680x357/5fe88cbe-a430-46c2-90fc-c7639d47d9cc.jpg is better looking12:45
lasciiis that cheese?12:46
bauwseryeah, raclette12:46
figleafbauwser: cheesy potatoes?12:46
lasciinice12:46
bauwseranyway12:46
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bauwserit's Friday, so leaving you some recipes :p12:46
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bauwserabout the spec obj12:46
bauwserlascii: I dunno honestly12:47
bauwserI discussed about that with johnthetubaguy12:47
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bauwserthere are a few directions we could have12:47
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lasciiyeah, we didn't think this fully through at the start12:47
bauwsereither we say that the original spec shouldn't be modified12:47
bauwseror, we say that every time a move is there, we should update it12:47
bauwserthe first one was made the way I wrote12:48
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bauwserif the second way, then we should update the spec object in the compute api rather12:48
lasciiagreed12:48
lasciiI'm thinking that if someone moves an instance and says here are my current constraints, that if they move it after that they would want those same constraints12:49
figleafbauwser: didn't we discuss a history of request_spec? I remember something about that, but that it was rejected12:49
lasciinot, make me specify it every time if it differs from first boot12:49
bauwserlascii: sec, thinking about a resize for example12:49
bauwserlascii: we should then update the spec with the new flavor, right?12:50
lasciiright12:50
bauwsermmmm12:50
bauwserI think it's acceptable12:50
figleafbauwser: yes, because that's a user request12:50
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bauwserokay, that's not something we do already12:50
figleafan update to the original request12:50
lasciifigleaf: okay, so you're distinguishing between user/admin requests, not against mutating request spec?12:51
figleaflascii: yeah12:51
bauwserlascii: figleaf: tbh, we have some problems now with the spec object not yet passed to computes12:51
figleafit was a way of tracking what was originally requested so that subsequent cheanges honored that12:51
bauwserthat's something I wanted to do12:51
bauwserbecause of reschedules12:51
bauwserso, here is my thoughts now12:52
lasciifigleaf: that's tricky and I'm not sure I have a strong opinion yet, but I think I would still expect the req_spec to be updated. the admin probably doesn't want a user overriding them12:52
bauwser#1 we should maybe merge the bugfix now without modifying the persistence now12:52
bauwser#2 work on passing the spec obj to the compute nodes (and clean up the RPC interfaces for abandoning old fields like filter_props, flavor etc.) to the conductor too12:53
figleaflascii: if an admin forces a move, we didn't want to lose what the original request was12:53
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bauwser#3 modify the compute api methods for updating the spec object anytime12:53
lasciibauwser: agreed on 2/3. on #1 do you mean go with what you have now?12:54
bauwserfigleaf: mmm, if an admin forces a move, I don't think it's impacting the Spec obj now already12:54
lasciiI think it should though12:55
figleafbauwser: agreed, but lascii was thinking otherwise12:55
openstackgerritEd Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Improve the help text for the OSAPI options  https://review.openstack.org/27487912:55
lasciiwith the caveat that we ignore a recorded force host/node when moving again12:55
bauwserlascii: yeah, because if we begin modifying the spec obj only for forced_hosts (which is an admin-ish thing), we should also do that for flavors and other stuff12:55
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bauwserlascii: force_hosts is an admin thing12:55
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lasciilet me provide an example scenario12:56
lasciiuser boots an instance with req_spec properties x/y/z12:56
lasciiadmin moves it with force_host to some node12:56
bauwserno12:56
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bauwserforce_hosts is only when booting12:57
lasciiwe record the force_host but don't update the rest of the req_spec12:57
lasciihow does live-migration force a destination?12:57
bauwserlascii: it doesn't call the scheduler12:57
bauwserlascii: which is a problem I want to fix in check-dests12:57
bauwserbut that's an API impact12:58
openstackgerritEd Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Improve the help text for the OSAPI options  https://review.openstack.org/27487912:58
lasciiokay. but we could record that destination in req_spec12:58
bauwserlascii: right, that's why I proposed another new field in my spec12:58
bauwserlascii: which is *not* force_hosts12:58
lasciiand in my scenario when the user goes to resize their instance req_spec still has properties x/y/z when they move it12:58
bauwserbut requested_destinations AFAIR12:58
bauwserforce_hosts should die in fire honestly12:59
lasciicompletely agree12:59
bauwserI should provide it for Burning Man12:59
lasciiheh12:59
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bauwserso12:59
bauwserhere is the thing12:59
bauwserand I discussed with tpeoples about that12:59
bauwserpeople use force_host at boot time because they don't trust the scheduler or they use it because $historical_reason13:00
lasciiwhat seems odd to me is that a user would boot in aggregate foo, admin moves the instance to aggregate bar, and then a user resize moves them back to foo because we didn't update req_spec with bar?13:00
bauwserie. they prefer to give admin rights to normal users just for doing --az fake_az:host:node13:00
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bauwserinstead of using server groups in that example13:01
bauwserlascii: okay, let's take your scenario13:01
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bauwseradmin boots an instance using force_hosts to hostA13:01
bauwser(users can't do that)13:01
bauwserhostA being in agg foo13:02
bauwseradmin live-migrate the instance to hostB (using the destination option)13:02
openstackgerritEd Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Improve the help text for the neutron API options  https://review.openstack.org/27412613:02
bauwserin that case, it won't call the scheduler and we won't care of force_hosts13:02
bauwsercase #213:02
bauwseradmin live-migrate the instance but doesn't provide the host13:03
lasciitbc I'm ignoring what's possible in the API today and just thinking about it from the scheduling pov13:03
bauwserin that case, the scheduler will pick an host based on the original reqspec *but force_hosts* (which is what I'm doing with my patch13:04
bauwserso, it could find hostB13:04
bauwserin another agg if we don't constraint aggs by flavors or image types13:04
bauwserlascii: yeah I understood13:04
lasciisure, let's say we add an option to live-migrate and specify an agg to put it in13:04
figleafbauwser: right, the forced host doesn't persist13:05
bauwserlascii: which is not insane13:05
bauwserlascii: some people asked for having a list of computes as targets for live-mig13:05
lasciiright13:05
figleaf"some people"? :)13:05
bauwserlascii: so say you can target bar agg13:05
bauwserfigleaf: heh13:06
bauwserlascii: in that case, I'd highly suggest to have that feature depending on check-dests13:06
bauwserlascii: in that case, we would propose the agg as a possible destination13:06
bauwserto the scheduler13:07
bauwserlascii: but that wouldn't be by using force_hosts13:07
lasciiyeah, that all makes sense13:07
bauwserlascii: so in that case, we would have the original request passed to the scheduler13:07
bauwserbut13:07
lasciibut wouldn't we update req_spec with it13:07
bauwsernot including force_hosts, but including the aggregate as a possible destination choice13:07
bauwserlascii: well, let's continue that scenario with a second move13:08
bauwseror a resize rather13:08
bauwser(which is an user thing)13:08
bauwserso, now we have the original spec including force_hosts set to hostA but having requested_destination set to "the aggregate" (conceptual object)13:09
bauwseroops13:09
bauwserconceptual *field rather13:09
bauwserbecause in check-dests, I make the proposal to *persist* requested_destination13:09
bauwsersay now that the user asks for resize13:09
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bauwserit'll then go to the scheduler, still not including force_hosts (set to None thru my patch or a subsequent patch once we merge the resize bit), including requested_destinations and including the new flavor13:10
bauwserbingo, it'll work13:10
bauwserthe thing is, I hate force_hosts and I really want to get rid of this field13:11
figleafbauwser: the requested dests in live-migrate shouldn't be persisted13:11
figleafIOW, they may have been desired at the time of the move, but that may no longer be the case13:12
* figleaf is thinking watcher-type scenarios13:12
bauwserthe admin thing you said ?13:12
lasciibauwser: so you're suggesting requested_destinations be a history of updates, and it overrides what's in the spec?13:13
bauwserfigleaf: well, the user doesn't care about a destination you konw13:13
lasciifigleaf: why move an instance to somewhere it's not desired to be13:13
bauwserfigleaf: I should rather prefer to trust the admin than the user13:13
bauwserfor what we should do13:13
bauwseryeah what lascii said13:13
figleafbauwser: because the state of your cloud can change13:13
bauwserif admin says "please migrate to hostB" and an user wants to resize, we should stick with hostB anyway13:14
bauwserfigleaf: but the user doesn't know the cloud state, the admin does13:14
lasciiright. we shouldn't allow admins to move an instance with no way to say "stay in this area from now on"13:14
figleafit may have been a good location when it was moved, but other changes now make it not so good13:14
lasciifigleaf: move it again?13:14
figleafbauwser: oh, in that case I agree13:14
bauwserlascii: so, that's a good question about requested_destinations13:14
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bauwserlascii: given I haven't implemented the API side of check-dests, it's a very reasonable concern13:15
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bauwserand the persistence of that too13:15
bauwserI mean, "stick with that host forever"13:15
lasciiI'm not seeing the downside of just updating the request_spec as the instance moves13:15
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bauwserlascii: I'd propose to defer that discussion when implementing the api side of check-dests13:16
figleaflascii: I guess it depends on what parts are updated13:16
lasciisure. I think it's something we need to discuss with a wider audience as well. spec/review/ML/meeting whatever13:16
bauwserlascii: what I'd like to avoid is to add more tools to a broken logic with force_hosts13:17
figleafbauwser: +113:17
bauwserin particular remotable methods which impacts the RPC contract13:17
lasciibauwser: yeah, I'm totally with you on not abusing force_hosts and removing it at some point13:17
bauwserlascii: what we should raise is the persistence side of the migrations13:18
bauwserlascii: sorry, unclear13:18
bauwserretrying13:18
lasciibauwser: no, I responded poorly. I get what you're saying13:18
bauwserlascii: I mean, we should try to get consensus on how we keep track of the move operations given the new workflow I'm proposing13:19
bauwserthe new workflow being "call the scheduler anyway unless someone forces it"13:19
bauwserlascii: figleaf: isn't US holiday today ?13:20
lasciinot for me, or most people I think13:20
figleafbauwser: we also need to clarify what admin actions change the reqspec, and which are 'temporary' responses13:20
* bauwser is lost with your holiday system :p13:20
bauwserthat's not a federal thing, right?13:20
figleafbauwser: not an official holiday, although religious people usually take it off13:20
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: trivial: Fix alignment of wsgi options  https://review.openstack.org/27802413:20
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: config options: Remove 'wsgi_' prefix from opts  https://review.openstack.org/27802313:20
figleafschools are closed, so wife/duaghter are off13:20
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figleafdaughter*13:21
bauwserokay, so you have to take paid time-off days ?13:21
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figleafbauwser: many companies give "flex days" for stuff like this13:21
bauwseroh this is company-based, I see13:21
figleafso that Jewish people can take Jewish holidays, etc13:22
bauwserso different from France at least and other EU countries...13:22
bauwserokay, so getting feedback on our crazy ideas is possibly something deferred to next week13:23
bauwserlascii: have you read my spec on check-dests ?13:24
figleafyeah, I'm sure that there are cases we haven't considered13:24
lasciibauwser: I have not13:24
bauwserhttp://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/newton/approved/check-destination-on-migrations-newton.html13:24
bauwserI'm asking that, because I'm introducing a new field that's going to be persisted at any move operation13:25
bauwserI mean fully modified13:25
bauwserand persisted13:25
bauwserhttp://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/newton/approved/check-destination-on-migrations-newton.html#work-items13:26
bauwsermy thoughts being that I'd deprecate force_hosts UX in a later spec in favor of nova boot --force <host> name13:27
bauwserwhich would be an admin thing consistent with the other move operations that can provide a destination13:27
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bauwserof course, all of that being admin-ish13:27
lasciicool, that looks good13:28
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lasciiit doesn't address things like flavor or aggregates being updated, which is more what I'm thinking about13:31
bauwserlascii: aggregates are implicit13:33
bauwserlascii: instead of aggregates, you should mention AZs13:33
bauwserthat is explicit13:33
bauwser(not nitpicking)13:33
bauwseryou can't really ask for an aggregate13:33
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bauwseryou can ask for a flavor that matches an aggregate13:33
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bauwseror an AZ etc.13:33
bauwserlascii: and you can't ask to update the server group the instance belongs to, right?13:34
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lasciigotcha, AZ is what I meant then(I never use them and still get confused)13:37
lasciibauwser: at this point no, that's a whole other discussion to get sorted out13:37
bauwserlascii: yeah I remember this13:37
bauwserlascii: anyway, all of that should be done in the compute api methods13:38
tbachmanp!spy13:38
bauwserlascii: ie. if it's a resize, update the flavor13:38
lasciiagreed13:39
bauwserheh, actually, you can't modify an AZ for a running instance13:39
bauwseractually, modifying an instance request is pretty anti-cloudy13:39
lasciisure, but I don't think it's too far fetched for that feature request to come in at some point13:39
lasciifor an admin capability13:39
bauwserlascii: so, say that something asks to update an AZ thru the API13:39
bauwserlascii: like nova move instance <new-AZ>13:40
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bauwserlascii: in that case, their would have to implement the RequestSpec update in the compute api method accordingly13:40
lasciiyeah13:40
bauwserlascii: that actually makes me thing we should persist the requested_destination field13:41
bauwsereeergh13:41
bauwserwe should NOT13:41
bauwserlascii: if we set requested_destination for a move, another subsequent move would read it13:42
bauwserlike unshelve13:42
bauwseror resize13:42
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bauwserwell, that's actually something we should all discuss13:42
bauwserie. if an admin says live-mig inst1 hostB, is that something we should honor in the future ?13:43
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bauwserlascii: ie. if an user wants to resize inst1, should we still stick with hostB? I'm not sure of that13:43
lasciiI think not, that's what you're patch addresses13:43
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bauwserlascii: ok then I should update my approved spec13:43
bauwserhttp://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/newton/approved/check-destination-on-migrations-newton.html#work-items13:44
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bauwser"Modify conductor methods for evacuate and live_migrate to fill in requested_destination, call scheduler_client.select_destinations() and persist the amended RequestSpec object right after the call."13:44
bauwserthe persist thing is dangerous13:44
lasciiI don't think persisting it is bad, but it should only be honored on the request that sets it13:44
lasciithere's two sides here, one is making sure the scheduler gets the data it needs. the other is wondering why the heck an instance is on a particular host and being able to examine the request_spec to see13:45
bauwseragreed13:45
bauwserbut you can't conclude why an instance is on a host just by looking at the spec object13:46
bauwsereg. you could have an AZ which is set on the RequestSpec object, but if the AZFilter is disabled, we don't care a bit of it13:46
lasciiagreed. but if it's in a completely different aggregate than it should be a force_host/requested_destination might explain why13:46
bauwsertracing the origin is hard13:47
bauwserrequested_destination/force_host is an exception of the rule13:47
bauwserbut even13:47
bauwsersay you have ChanceScheduler13:47
lasciiyeah, it's not perfect. but I think recording the inputs is useful13:48
bauwserprobably13:48
bauwserthe "probably" means13:48
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bauwserI think I got your idea and I like it, but I still think it doesn't really help situations where you need to understand why13:49
lasciidefinitely not in all cases13:50
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mriedemooo hot damn some cells patches merged over night13:55
mriedemnice13:55
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openstackgerritGleb Stepanov proposed openstack/nova: Add console log offset  https://review.openstack.org/29247314:06
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mriedemdansmith: if you're out today, i can cleanup https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296105/14:09
mriedemlascii: are you supposed to be out today too?14:10
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openstackgerritDevananda van der Veen proposed openstack/nova: Allow ironic driver to specify cafile  https://review.openstack.org/29746714:15
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lasciimriedem: I am not14:15
mriedemlascii: ok, cool, i'm going to cleanup https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296105/ quick14:15
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lasciicool14:18
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dansmithmriedem: I can do it, but if you want to that's cool14:21
mriedemdansmith: already doing it14:21
mriedemgo vacation14:21
dansmithmriedem: lascii I think if we can get merged up to the one I have a -2 on this week that'd be super awesome progress for a week into this effort14:21
mriedemyeah, i was happy to see some things merged over night14:21
mriedempleasantly surprised14:22
dansmithyeah14:22
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mriedemdansmith: i guess i did have one question in setUp here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296105/4/nova/tests/unit/api/openstack/compute/test_flavors_extra_specs.py14:24
mriedemwhy do we need to delete the existing 1 flavor14:24
dansmithmriedem: there is a reason for this, I thought I had a comment there.. let me read14:26
openstackgerritEd Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Move config options from nova/objects/network.py  https://review.openstack.org/26924014:26
openstackgerritEd Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Improve the help text for the linuxnet options (4)  https://review.openstack.org/27542314:26
openstackgerritEd Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Improve the help text for the linuxnet options (2)  https://review.openstack.org/27148914:26
mriedemi might just undo it and see what fails14:26
openstackgerritEd Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Improve the help text for the linuxnet options (3)  https://review.openstack.org/27223114:26
openstackgerritEd Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Move config options from nova/network/linux_net.py  https://review.openstack.org/27044114:26
openstackgerritEd Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Improve the help text for the linuxnet options (1)  https://review.openstack.org/27095914:26
openstackgerritEd Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Improve help text for the network object options  https://review.openstack.org/26931314:26
mriedemi can sort it out14:26
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dansmithmriedem: oh right, this is why this one had to stay in front of create.. this migrates the flavor from the main to the api database,14:27
dansmithso that the test, which assumes flavor 1 everywhere is actually testing against the api db,14:27
dansmithand so I can mock out the new methods for it when I need to14:27
dansmithbecause otherwise, I'd have to do this after the migration patch or re-do it once we move everything14:28
dansmithso this was just because I wanted it low down in the patch series, but not too low that it had to change later14:28
mriedemok14:28
dansmithso you can remove that recreate after the patch that migrates them all in the tests14:28
dansmithwhich is the last one14:28
mriedemthis https://review.openstack.org/#/c/295310/ ?14:29
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dansmithmriedem: yeah because of this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/295310/13/nova/test.py14:30
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dansmithI'm pretty sure that's right, although I am pre-coffee14:30
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mriedemyeah, plus https://review.openstack.org/#/c/295310/13/nova/objects/flavor.py@47214:30
dansmithbut feel free to check that and remove it if it still works14:30
mriedemworks for me, i'll add a comment to this part of the test14:31
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dansmithokay thanks14:31
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dansmithmriedem: actually, I think maybe that's not right.. I wrote these refactor tests at the top and then tried to move them farther down14:37
dansmithwhen I said "in front of create" I meant behind,14:37
dansmithbut this is actually in front14:37
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mriedemyeah. so this just recreates the flavor in the main db14:37
dansmithwhich means the recreate no longer creates it in the api db14:37
mriedemso kind of redundant14:37
dansmithyeah, so it might not be necessary if it's in *front* of create14:37
mriedemok14:37
dansmithliterally one sip of the coffee yielded that14:38
mriedemamazing14:38
openstackgerritGleb Stepanov proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Console log offset argument  https://review.openstack.org/29247914:39
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openstackgerritGleb Stepanov proposed openstack/python-novaclient: [WIP] Console log offset argument  https://review.openstack.org/29247914:40
mriedemdansmith: so really, this test is mocking things out for the api DB in the flavor object, but the flavor is not actually in the API DB14:40
mriedembut the tests pass because they are mocked out to act like they are14:41
dansmithyeah, because it mocks the initial get I guess14:41
dansmithbut it was fully mocked before14:41
mriedemtrue14:42
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dansmithmriedem: also lol a the side_efcetctstect thing14:43
dansmithbut yeah, you're right14:43
dansmithrobo conversion14:43
mriedemseems mock should have caught that since it handles bad assertions now14:44
dansmithit handles some yeah14:44
dansmiththat part of mock has always been too optimistic for my tastes14:45
dansmitheven though it's short the way it is, it feels like it should be something like "thing.mock.side_effect"14:45
dansmith"mock" is pretty unlikely to be used for real stuff14:46
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mriedemok, one more test pass on this and then i'll push it up14:46
mriedemplus all this coffee talk has me thirsty for more coffee14:47
dansmithheh14:48
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Further hack up the nova.tests.unit.db.fakes module of horribleness  https://review.openstack.org/29610614:51
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Objectify test_flavors and test_flavors_extra_specs  https://review.openstack.org/29610514:51
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Block flavor creation until main database is empty  https://review.openstack.org/29531014:51
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Add flavor migration routine  https://review.openstack.org/29477114:51
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Make Flavor create() and destroy() work against API DB  https://review.openstack.org/29475814:51
mriedemlascii: once you're all caf'ed up, can you hit https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296105/ again?14:51
lasciiyep, looking now14:54
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mriedemnoticing a few more things we can cleanup i think14:57
mriedemthese tests were stubbing out stuff we'd never hit now14:57
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lasciiyeah, looks like a few things could be cleaned up.14:59
mriedemdoing it now14:59
lasciiokay, was just about to ask14:59
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mriedemthere are still some nova.db stubs in here, not sure if those are left intentionally15:04
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openstackgerritPushkar Umaranikar proposed openstack/nova: Config options: Centralize debugger options  https://review.openstack.org/27429815:05
doffmmriedem: How is 'test_index' working? Its mocking flavor_get_by_flavor_id_from_db, but that implies that the flavor object is15:06
doffm'in_api'15:06
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mriedemyeah, i mentioned that earlier15:09
mriedemdoffm: note that it was already all mocked out before this change15:10
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dansmithmriedem: those mocks have probably been stale for a long time,15:13
mriedemyeah, cleaning them up15:13
dansmithsince the api code started using the flavor object15:13
openstackgerritMark Doffman proposed openstack/nova: Cleanup rescue images on unrescue when using RBD.  https://review.openstack.org/24177715:13
mriedemactually,15:13
mriedemsince the jsonschema validation15:13
mriedema bunch of them are 400s in the validation code before we even get to the api method15:14
dansmithheh15:14
mnaserhi everyone, we'd like to implement dynamic qos of volume (kinda like 100 iops per 100GB).  it is pretty straight forward and involves changing this portion - https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/virt/libvirt/volume/volume.py#L76-L89 -- leveraging something like total_bytes_sec_per_gb to use this feature.   it's really a few lines of code, would this require a full spec or is this small enough not to need it?15:14
mnaserthe qos_specs that come from the volume are free form, so nothing has to be done at cinder's side15:15
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mriedemthought we could actually convert this to NoDBTestCase but the legacy v2 stuff fails15:16
mriedemdrats15:16
mriedemmnaser: what do you mean by free form?15:16
mriedemi'm assuming you setup qos for the volume via cinder's api and that's returned in the connection_info when nova calls os-initialize_connection15:17
mnasermriedem: as in, the qos-type when created in cinder are not of specific type, eg: you could have a qos that says {"foo": "bar"}15:18
mriedemmnaser: it's at least a blueprint, so start by writing the blueprint in launchpad and then you could bring it up in the weekly nova meeting as a possible specless blueprint (in the open discussion portion of the meeting)15:18
mnasermriedem: that sounds good, we dont mind writing a spec if it makes things flow easier15:19
mriedemmnaser: note also that we're in spec freeze for new things until after the summit15:19
mriedemis there an api change to nova?15:19
mnaserno api changes at all15:19
mriedemto pass like qos stuff on volume attach?15:19
mnasernope, the qos_data is a dictionary that's passed over and that comes in unfiltered as-is15:19
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mnaserso the only impact on the code base would be those few lines i highlighted15:20
mriedemso, you propose to just remove the tune_opts whitelist?15:20
mnaserit'll have to have a bit of logic. you could either have the current ones listed OR the newly introduced ones which would dynamically calculate it based on the size of the volume15:21
mnaserex: read_iops_sec and read_iops_sec_per_gb can't both be set.  but if the _per_gb parameter is set, just take the volume size in gb and multiply by that15:21
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mnaserso read_iops_sec_per_gb = 3 and a 10 gb volume = 30 iops limit15:22
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mriedemseems like a specless bp15:23
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Further hack up the nova.tests.unit.db.fakes module of horribleness  https://review.openstack.org/29610615:23
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Objectify test_flavors and test_flavors_extra_specs  https://review.openstack.org/29610515:23
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Block flavor creation until main database is empty  https://review.openstack.org/29531015:23
mriedemso start with the bp and bring it up in the nova meeting under open discussion15:23
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Add flavor migration routine  https://review.openstack.org/29477115:23
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Make Flavor create() and destroy() work against API DB  https://review.openstack.org/29475815:24
mnasermriedem: let me write up a bp, ill even do the work (it's really not much) just so that the impact is seen and then bring it up at the meeting15:24
mriedemyeah, POC would be helpful15:25
mnasermriedem: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#Nova_Team_Meeting -- correct?15:25
mriedemyup15:25
mriedemwell https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova15:25
mnaserthank you, i'll be there on the next one :)15:25
mnasertime to grab something to eat, thank you again15:26
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dansmithleakypipes: bauwser: melwitt: Sorry I just saw your comments on this, but please see my reply: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/289450/716:20
dansmithwould really like to get that landed ASAP because we're exposed without it and it's landable now16:20
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leakypipesdansmith: will review very shortly.16:25
bauwserdansmith: my comment was just about trying to create first a targeted primitive and then calling directly the DB API16:25
dansmithleakypipes: you will love the explanation16:25
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bauwserdansmith: that way, you were making sure that it was persisted like a older compute16:26
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mriedem_meetingupdate or create for the win16:27
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dansmithmriedem: it's not update or create16:27
dansmithit's create if doesn't exist, called update16:27
dansmithit's ridiculous16:27
mriedemoh hrm16:27
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mriedemso like the ec2 mapping stuff, get is also create16:28
dansmithbauwser: yeah, coud do it that way, but seems more roundabout16:28
dansmithmriedem: would only be better if it was create-on-destroy16:28
sc68calHow much coverage do we have of live migration and host evacuation in Nova?16:29
mriedemsc68cal: in nova? or in the CI jobs?16:29
sc68calboth16:29
mriedemsc68cal: 0 for evacuate16:30
mriedemvery limited for live migration16:30
bauwsersc68cal: oh man, your bug report16:30
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sc68calyerp.16:30
dansmithsc68cal: evacuate can only be called if you have a dead compute node, which is hard to simulate in a parallel CI job16:30
mriedemsc68cal: tdurakov is working on expanding live migration test coverage with different storage backends16:30
bauwserI actually hate host-evacuate-live...16:30
bauwser:)16:30
dansmithsc68cal: host-evacuate-live is not evacuate16:30
mriedemyeah, we could use a multinode job, but it'd probably have to be serialized or be it's own special job, like we're doing for live migration16:30
dansmithif that's your bug16:30
sc68calwell, whatever you guys call it. host-evacuate-live no worky right16:31
sc68calclient is borked.16:31
dansmithsc68cal: check it out: http://www.danplanet.com/blog/2016/03/03/evacuate-in-nova-one-command-to-confuse-us-all/16:31
mriedembeat me by 10 seconds16:31
sc68calso yeah. I'm looking for what nova host-evacuate-live actually does. Agree it has a naming problem16:32
sc68calbut what it does is what i'm looking for, and 3.3.0 doesn't work16:33
mriedem"Ready for the biggest and most confusing one, saved for last? The client also has a command called host-evacuate-live."16:33
dansmithit's purely live migration16:33
openstackgerritAndrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Create Instance from BuildRequest if not in a cell  https://review.openstack.org/26392716:33
openstackgerritAndrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Populate instance_mappings during boot  https://review.openstack.org/26392516:33
sc68calright. And the client is broken16:33
dansmithsc68cal: you never want to use it actually16:33
dansmithsc68cal: because it will basically guarantee a host meltdown16:33
dansmithsc68cal: so it's a nice idea, but you don't want to use it16:33
mriedemdansmith: we should probably throw a warning in the help text for that cli16:33
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sc68calso.... we're ok with it being broken?16:34
sc68calreally?16:34
dansmithsc68cal: more than a veeery small number of parallel live migrations will just not work well on libvirt16:34
dansmithmriedem: we need a throttle in compute, not a warning, IMHO16:34
dansmithmriedem: I bet it works fine on some more managed platforms16:34
sc68calRight. and that's fine, that can be worked on and fixed16:34
sc68calbut the client right now is broken.16:34
mriedemdansmith: good point16:34
dansmithman, do I rock at taking vacation or what?16:34
mriedemsc68cal: define broken16:34
mriedemsc68cal: details would be helpful16:35
sc68calhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/python-novaclient/+bug/156193816:35
openstackLaunchpad bug 1561938 in python-novaclient "python-novaclient live_migrate args mismatch" [Undecided,New]16:35
sc68calboils down to Error while live migrating instance: live_migrate() takes exactly 4 arguments (5 given)16:35
mriedemnice16:35
dansmithsc68cal: it's a feature to help you avoid melting down your compute node :D16:36
sc68caldansmith: lol.... I know you're trying to dodge this one :)16:36
dansmithWe should make novaclient say this:16:37
dansmith"Initiating targeted compute node meltdown of $host in 10 ... 9 ... (press Ctrl-C to cancel) .... 8 ..."16:37
sc68callol16:37
jrollsc68cal: looks like an easy bug though16:37
mriedemsc68cal: what happens if you add --os-compute-api-version 2.24 when running it?16:37
sc68callet me check16:37
jrollmissing an arg here: https://github.com/openstack/python-novaclient/commit/ae598280acc46dd4ee20af78a5780a450f96b084#diff-23708944688abb26fc151d28d327c721R44616:37
jrollI agree using 2.24 will fix it16:38
mriedemso, who wants to put up the fix since we're all in love with this16:38
* jroll lied about missing an arg, sees the second method now16:38
jrollit looks like @api_versions.wraps('2.25') isn't doing the right thing16:38
openstackgerritPushkar Umaranikar proposed openstack/nova: Config options: Centralize resource tracker options  https://review.openstack.org/29421116:39
sc68caljroll: yeah --os-compute-api-version 2.24 works16:39
mriedemhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/260383/10/novaclient/v2/shell.py@385216:39
mriedem_find_server(cs, args.server).live_migrate(args.host,16:39
mriedem                                                   args.block_migrate)16:39
* jroll wonders if live-migrate is busted too16:39
mriedemjroll: it's just the client16:40
jrollwell, yeah, the client command16:40
mriedemit does default disk_over_commit in the server object https://review.openstack.org/#/c/260383/10/novaclient/v2/servers.py@41216:40
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jrollmriedem: right, it's line 445 that is breaking, I think16:42
mriedemjroll: but that should call line 153016:42
jrollmriedem: yeah, should :)16:43
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jrollit's odd there's no traceback here16:43
mriedemso, i think the wrapper in there is basically not working16:43
mriedemto have to have a client arg on the method being wrapped16:44
mriedembecause the client has the api version attribute in it16:44
mriedemalthough the manager must have an api_version attribute b/c of line 42616:45
mriedemoh i know the problem16:45
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mriedemsc68cal: they updated the do_live_migrate shell, but not do_host_evacuate_live16:45
openstackgerritAnusha Unnam proposed openstack/nova: config options: Centralize xenapi options  https://review.openstack.org/29730116:46
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aunnam_Hi., i am trying to generate test coverage report using tox -e cover, but it is not generating covhtml folder,any help?16:48
mriedemsc68cal: jroll: unless you're working a fix, i'll work on a recreate and patch16:50
jrollmriedem: oh, fun16:50
jrollI am not, was just bored and looking >.>16:50
mriedembored huh16:51
mriedemyou can work on re-proposing your port group spec16:51
mriedemsucka16:51
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jrollhehe16:51
jrollmore like... procrastinating on paperwork16:52
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jrollbut yeah I'll do that next16:52
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sc68cali'd have to do a lot of code reading to catch up, mriedem be my guest if16:54
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sc68calyou are working on a patch16:54
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mriedemaunnam_: i'll try to recreate16:54
mriedemsc68cal: ok16:54
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openstackgerritAndrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Enforce migration tests for api database  https://review.openstack.org/29776216:56
mriedemdansmith: host-evacuate-live does have a --max-servers option...16:56
mriedemah yup, i see the break16:58
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mriedemhost-evacuate-live calls the server manager code directly, and calls the amgiguous live_migrate() method, which calls the 2nd one16:58
mriedemso kaboom16:58
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melwittdansmith mriedem: it looks like the pci_device_update does update or create, isn't this line what tries the update first? https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/db/sqlalchemy/api.py#L677717:01
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openstackgerritJim Rollenhagen proposed openstack/nova-specs: Re-propose ironic-networks-support for Newton  https://review.openstack.org/29776717:08
jrollthere you are mriedem17:08
mriedemk17:08
jrollmriedem: I also kind of want a summit session with you/us/neutron to talk about the future of networking, there's more we want to do and it's a bit wacky :)17:09
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jrolland cells + multiple virt drivers throws the wedge of "can't have a new network api" in there too17:09
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mriedemyikes17:10
mriedemwould that fit into cross-project tuesday?17:10
mriedemi was assuming we'd probably have a cross-project fishbowl with neutron for os-vif/get-me-a-network17:10
jrollnot sure, maybe17:10
mriedembut i think get me a network is mostly ironed out, so maybe could fit ironic into that instead17:10
jrollI'd like to keep that open for wider cross-project things, but if there's room I'll take it17:11
mriedemi haven't actually seen the design summit schedule yet17:11
jrollthis is the spec in progress btw https://review.openstack.org/#/c/277853/217:11
mriedembut i think john said nova has full slots wed and thurs17:11
jrollneither have I17:11
jrollbut yeah, that's what I've heard17:11
jrollwe could even just get together friday morning if we don't find time17:11
* devananda thinks fridays are not a good day for technically complicated decision making17:12
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mriedemaunnam_: i get covhtml/index.html17:13
mriedemaunnam_: when i run tox -e cover within nova17:13
jrolldevananda: I somewhat agree, but I think most of the hard bits are in the spec, the discussion I want to have is more of "where does this code go, how insane is it, how do we make the insanity more manageable"17:13
jrollmaybe it all ends up in os-vif, for example, I'm not up to speed on that17:14
mriedemnice, 0 test coverage for nova/console/xvp.py17:14
jrollos_vif.types.VlanOverBond()17:14
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devanandajroll: gotcha. if everyone present is up to speed on the tech side, then yea, friday would be good for that part of it17:15
jrollwhich never happens :)17:15
devanandaright :)17:15
jrollidk, we'll figure it out when we get closer17:15
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mriedemjroll: devananda: well, maybe do like what cinder is doing before the summit, have a special irc meeting to go over this17:16
mriedemso we're less in the dark when we get in person17:16
jrolloh, that might work17:16
openstackgerritGleb Stepanov proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Add console log offset  https://review.openstack.org/29247317:17
devananda+117:18
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sc68calso - to prevent things like 1561938 - what would need to be done? better unit testing in novaclient?17:19
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/python-novaclient: WIP: Fix host-evacuate-live for 2.25 microversion  https://review.openstack.org/29777217:21
mriedemsc68cal: probably, i need to test ^17:21
mriedembut i changed it and got no unit test failures17:21
openstackgerritAndrey Kurilin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: [microversions] Fix host-evacuate-live for 2.25  https://review.openstack.org/29777417:22
mriedemandreykurilin: beat you by 20 seconds17:22
andreykurilinheh17:22
andreykurilinmriedem: I have tests;)17:22
mriedemi have updated shell help text17:23
andreykurilinmriedem: I found one more bug with this microversion17:23
melwittI think novaclient microversion additions are supposed to come with functional tests that test the added version for example https://github.com/openstack/python-novaclient/blob/master/novaclient/tests/functional/v2/test_keypairs.py17:23
mriedemmelwitt: yes they should17:23
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andreykurilinmelwitt: but there is no ability to check all evacuate and migration stuff with one node17:24
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mriedemyou'd have to stub out the api call probably17:25
andreykurilinmriedem: I abandoned my patch.17:26
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mriedemok, we could add your tests to mine and add a co-authored-by17:27
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mriedemjust tested mine with 2.24 and 2.latest and it works ok17:27
mriedemsc68cal: wanna test ^ ?17:27
sc68calmriedem: yeah let me fetch the patch17:27
andreykurilinmriedem: btw, there is no ability  to disable "block-migrate" now. Previously it was handled by `--block-migrate` option, but now no option means "auto", not disable17:28
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mriedemandreykurilin: i'm not following17:30
andreykurilinmriedem: ok, API side supports three values of block_migrate option in 2.25 for live_migrate action:  auto, True and False. --block-mirate cli argument handles only "auto" and "True"17:31
sc68calmriedem: worked17:32
andreykurilinthere is no ability set to False now17:32
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aunnam_mrieden:thanks. I think one of the tests is failing thats the reason i am not getting covhtml, will check on that17:34
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Fix host-evacuate-live for 2.25 microversion  https://review.openstack.org/29777218:01
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openstackgerritMark Doffman proposed openstack/nova: Add manage command for cell0.  https://review.openstack.org/27526618:11
openstackgerritMark Doffman proposed openstack/nova: Map instances to cell0 on failed schedule  https://review.openstack.org/26782718:11
openstackgerritMark Doffman proposed openstack/nova: Manage db sync command for cell0  https://review.openstack.org/27488518:11
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mriedemandreykurilin: once this host-evacuate-live fix is merged, i'm going to request a new novaclient release for 3.4.0, do you see any issue with that, or anything else we should really get in first?18:21
mriedemwe already have quite a few changes merged since 3.4.018:21
mriedem*3.3.018:21
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doffmjdurgin, dansmith: Any chance you could take another look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/241777/18:22
doffmIts a bug fix that has been sitting around a while.18:22
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andreykurilin__mriedem: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/290556/ this patch can address an issue with quotas(There were several related bug-reports and mailing threads)18:25
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mriedemandreykurilin: lascii: tenants and users don't have to be uuids do they?18:26
lasciimriedem: correct18:27
mriedemyar18:27
mriedemandreykurilin: your change breaks that then18:27
andreykurilin__Hm...18:27
mriedemwhich i thought was related to sdague's 2.18 microversion http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/api_microversion_history.html#id1618:28
sdaguewhat's up?18:28
openstackgerritGleb Stepanov proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Add console log offset  https://review.openstack.org/29247318:28
mriedemsdague: you're back!18:28
mriedemhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/290556/18:28
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mriedemsdague: also, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/297772/ so i can release 3.4.018:29
sdaguemriedem: yeh, longish lunch with mtreinish18:29
lasciilooks like project_id is limited to [0-9a-f\-]+ in Nova currently18:29
sdaguetenant_id definitely doesn't have to be like a uuid18:29
sdaguelascii: it is, but it is configurable18:29
sdaguethat's definitely > uuidlike though18:30
lasciiyeah18:30
mriedemsdague: project_id_regex ?18:30
sdagueI think there is even a pretty extensive reno on that change18:30
sdaguemriedem: yeh, sounds right18:31
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lasciireleasenotes/notes/optional_project_id-6aebf1cb394d498f.yaml18:31
mriedemyup https://review.openstack.org/#/c/233076/18:32
mriedemthat release note is wrong for the api version18:32
sdaguemriedem: doh18:32
sdaguewe were in rebase chasing on that18:32
mriedemlet me see if we fixed it18:32
mriedemyeah18:32
sdagueit's fixed in master18:33
mriedemProvides API 2.18, which makes the use of project_ids in API urls optional.18:33
mriedemyeah18:33
mriedembauwser must have gotten it18:33
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sdagueactually snikitin18:33
sdaguehttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/271941/18:33
mriedemi give any and all props to bauwser for renos18:33
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sdaguedoes that mean he also gets blame for all bogus ones too? :)18:34
mriedemno18:34
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andreykurilin__mriedem: ok, I'll update my change later and there are no objectives against new release from my side:)18:37
mriedemandreykurilin: ok, just waiting for that host-evacuate-live change to get in18:37
mriedemso probably release 3.4.0 next week18:37
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sdaguemriedem: why isn't this based explicitly on a microversion - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/297772/2/novaclient/v2/contrib/host_evacuate_live.py ?18:39
sdagueis that not accessible down there?18:39
mriedemsdague: just mimics the do_live_migration change that was added for 2.2518:40
mriedemfrom https://review.openstack.org/#/c/260383/18:41
sdaguemriedem: ok, it just seems that it would be better to keep the explicit mv selection logic if we have access to it18:41
sdaguebut if we don't, I guess that's fine18:41
melwittyou mean like the @api_versions.wraps() stuff?18:42
sdaguewell, I don't know if we have the version accessible here, which is why it was a question18:43
mriedemi'm pretty sure we do18:43
mriedemit's in cs18:43
mriedemthing is, where are like 10 ways to do these18:43
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sdagueit seems like it would be better to do it that way, however, it's also kind of a bad bug, so +2 for this for now18:43
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sdagueit would be nice to get a better pattern in here .... andreykurilin__ if you had interest in that, it would be cool :)18:44
mriedemsdague: like this? https://github.com/openstack/python-novaclient/blob/master/novaclient/v2/shell.py#L4047-L405618:44
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mriedemand we have this kind of thing https://github.com/openstack/python-novaclient/blob/master/novaclient/v2/servers.py#L42218:45
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mriedemnewton release schedule is out http://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html18:48
mriedemjust remembered i'm gone from 5/20-5/3018:48
mriedemright before n-118:48
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auggydo ptl's get vacations?? ;)18:53
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sdaguemriedem: I can probably cover for you during that window19:03
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mriedemcool19:04
mriedemlaura was pretty set on me going with her to europe those 10 days19:05
mriedem'but honey, milestone 1 is coming up, you know what that means'19:05
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sdagueheh19:10
sdaguewhat part of .eu ?19:10
mriedemvienna, budapest and prague19:12
mriedemi made goulash last week to prepare myself19:13
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auggyare you also drinking budvar in preparation?19:15
mriedemnope19:15
auggymy in-laws live close to the czech border, about 2.5 hours from prague19:16
auggylast time we visited them i thought for sure we'd make it to prague so i got a phrase book19:16
auggyso, if you need a phrase book, i might see if i can find it :D haha19:17
mriedemmy wife bought something19:17
mriedemi think it's just a travel book19:17
mriedembut not sure19:17
mriedemshe finds any excuse to buy new books19:17
auggyall kinds of useful things are in it, including a section on how to pick people up in a bar!19:17
mriedemi'll just need to know how to say i'm sorry19:17
auggyhaha19:17
auggyi got the german one some time ago and it was a huge source of amusement19:18
auggyczech is really hard, i think.. like russian19:18
auggyit has like 7 noun declension cases19:18
auggyi mean 4 are hard enough in german19:18
mriedemin vienna, i'll just have a google hangout with markus_z so he can tell me what to say19:18
auggyhaha19:18
auggyyou have to learn the austrian dialect ;)19:19
tpeoplesmriedem: should i go ahead and backport this fix to stable/mitaka? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/297387/19:20
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auggyat least it sounds like german.. i had a german teacher who was swiss and she would sometimes speak swiss german so we could hear the difference19:20
mriedemtpeoples: yeah19:20
auggyit sounded like a spanish person speaking german!! so confusing!!!19:20
mriedemi'll be speaking 'merican most of the time19:21
auggynot hating on swiss or austrian dialects ;) just saying as a student of hochdeutsch it's a bit confusing :)19:21
auggyha19:21
mriedema week in paris and i at least learned to say good morning/afternoon/evening19:21
mriedemand stumble through the rest19:21
mriedemor eat with leakypipes who knows french19:21
leakypipesquoi?19:21
auggyi always learn how to order food and read food menus in any country i go to19:21
mriedemi'm pretty sure i'll do ok between goulash and wienerschnitzel19:22
auggyhaha you don't have dansmith's food issues do you?19:22
mriedemi also don't like tentacles,19:23
mriedembut otherwise no19:23
auggyi don't think there's many tentacles out that way19:23
auggyi think it's like meat, meat by products, potatoes, and paprika19:23
mriedemmy wife is the one that's going to have the problem19:24
mriedemsince she's vegetarian19:24
mriedemi might be eating sausage 3-4 times per day, and i'm ok with that19:25
auggyif you get a chance to try knedlíky you totally should19:25
auggyin the area of germany my husband is from, they call it knödel, and everytime i talk about dumplings, that's what he thinks of19:25
mriedemalright then19:26
auggyit's basically this giant steamed dumpling loaf that they slice up and serve with gravied dishes19:26
mriedemmmmm gravy loaf19:26
auggyyou eat two pieces and your stomach expands19:26
auggyit's like those little sponges that come in capsules and you put in the water and they grow19:26
auggywhen we lived in brooklyn, there was a slovakian restaurant up the street and we used to buy pre-made loaves of it there19:27
auggyoh oh and the other awesome czech thing you need to eat that can also be vegetarian is Langosch19:28
auggyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%A1ngos19:29
mriedemthe st louis cardinals reporter?19:29
auggyit's deep fried dough with garlic, sour cream, and ham and cheese19:29
mriedemauggy: ham isn't vegetarian19:29
auggyi said it can be vegetarian :)19:29
mriedemyou're doing vegetarian wrong...19:29
mriedemoh19:29
auggyif you remove the ham19:29
auggyor just ask for it without ham19:30
mriedemgarlic, sour cream and cheese, sounds like a night full of farts19:30
mriedemi might keep that one a secret19:30
auggydelicious deep fried farts19:30
auggyoh it looks like langos is technically hungarian19:32
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack/nova: WIP: post processing inspection of doctree  https://review.openstack.org/29548619:32
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack/nova: use upstream openstackdocstheme  https://review.openstack.org/29548519:32
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack/nova: WIP: add some custom styling  https://review.openstack.org/29395819:32
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack/nova: WIP: show microversion parameters  https://review.openstack.org/29415119:32
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack/nova: WIP: convert to using external parameter file  https://review.openstack.org/29407819:32
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack/nova: WIP: attempt to parse content inside table cells  https://review.openstack.org/29371019:32
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack/nova: WIP: experiments with RST and API docs  https://review.openstack.org/29242019:32
* auggy shuffles back off to bug land19:33
sdagueok, now those changes are safe from my hard drive incase a thing goes wrong19:33
sdaguealso... I never thought I'd learn this much about sphinx19:33
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auggysdague: did it ask you any riddles?19:33
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sdagueI should19:33
sdagueor leave a riddle or two in there19:33
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sdaguehttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/295486/2/doc/ext/rest_parameters.py@209 is today's fun19:34
sdaguepost processing a stanza to pop it out and move it in front of the section where it's included19:34
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auggyoh wow19:35
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auggyoh i was chatting with anne and she's working on the error codes table,19:35
sdagueauggy: ok cool19:35
auggyi mentioned i was working on making it a comma delimited list but since she's doing it as a table, i thought i'd just leave it be19:35
auggyand just help her get the table working19:35
auggythe code for that thing isn't nearly as bad as i expected it to be19:36
sdaguewfm19:36
sdaguencie19:36
auggybut maybe that's just my frame of reference after working on nova functional tests hahah ;D19:37
sdagueok, I think it's time to go get beer, especially as my growlerwerks growlers just showed up - http://www.growlerwerks.com/ - though a year late... because... kickstarter19:37
auggyoooooh19:38
auggythat isn't made in portland is it???19:38
sdagueyeh19:38
auggyhahaha19:38
sdagueso I'll blame you for it being a year late :)19:38
* auggy is contemplating getting her husband a growler rack for his bike19:38
auggyhey man i only moved here late last year!!19:39
sdagueok, good weekend folks19:40
auggyyou too sean!!19:41
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openstackgerritHemanth Makkapati proposed openstack/nova: config options: centralize xenserver options  https://review.openstack.org/29783819:43
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openstackgerritHemanth Makkapati proposed openstack/nova: config options: centralize xenserver options  https://review.openstack.org/29783820:12
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bauwserVek: melwitt: your opinions could be nice for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/297772/220:14
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bauwserit's a regression bugfix20:14
bauwserp!spy20:14
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openstackgerritSujitha proposed openstack/nova: Removing exception LiveMigrationWithOldNovaNotSafe  https://review.openstack.org/29784220:17
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openstackgerritPushkar Umaranikar proposed openstack/nova: Config options: Centralize netconf options  https://review.openstack.org/29431220:31
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mriedemleakypipes: ping on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296305/20:36
mriedemleakypipes: i think we're going to try and get that into rc320:36
mriedemwas hoping you and danpb could look given your os-vif exp20:36
mriedemleakypipes: melwitt: would be nice to move this through https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296105/20:39
mriedemthen we're at the flavor create in api db thing for next week20:39
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leakypipesmriedem: will do. on both.21:03
mriedemthanks21:03
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leakypipesmriedem: 296105 done.21:05
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leakypipesmriedem: and the other one is now reviewed.21:15
mriedemhot damn21:15
mriedemgood call on the regression test21:16
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Add NetworkRequestList.from_tuples helper  https://review.openstack.org/29787021:16
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Add helpers to NetworkRequest(List) objects for auto/none cases  https://review.openstack.org/29787121:16
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openstackgerritSujitha proposed openstack/nova: Config options: Centralize ldapdns options  https://review.openstack.org/29417921:22
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openstackgerritHemanth Makkapati proposed openstack/nova: config options: centralize xenserver options  https://review.openstack.org/29783821:24
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openstackgerritKen'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Swagger prototype  https://review.openstack.org/29614621:37
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openstackgerritSujitha proposed openstack/nova: Removing exception LiveMigrationWithOldNovaNotSafe  https://review.openstack.org/29784221:49
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: WIP: neutron: validate auto-allocate is available  https://review.openstack.org/29787622:05
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openstackgerritJim Rollenhagen proposed openstack/nova: DO NOT MERGE: patch for testing ironic-tempest-full  https://review.openstack.org/29787822:16
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openstackgerritEd Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Move config options from nova/objects/network.py  https://review.openstack.org/26924022:48
openstackgerritEd Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Improve the help text for the linuxnet options (4)  https://review.openstack.org/27542322:48
openstackgerritEd Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Improve the help text for the linuxnet options (2)  https://review.openstack.org/27148922:48
openstackgerritEd Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Improve the help text for the linuxnet options (3)  https://review.openstack.org/27223122:48
openstackgerritEd Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Move config options from nova/network/linux_net.py  https://review.openstack.org/27044122:48
openstackgerritEd Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Improve the help text for the linuxnet options (1)  https://review.openstack.org/27095922:48
openstackgerritEd Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Improve help text for the network object options  https://review.openstack.org/26931322:48
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jrolldoes "check experimental" wait for the tripleo pipeline before returning results?23:14
jrolloh, readme change won't run dsvm jobs23:14
* jroll facepalm23:14
openstackgerritJim Rollenhagen proposed openstack/nova: DO NOT MERGE: patch for testing ironic-tempest-full  https://review.openstack.org/29787823:15
jrollhm, still doesn't seem to be picking it up :/23:16
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mriedemjroll: if you didn't already, can you mark anything that was already completed in that port groups spec? just put like a (done) or (done in mitaka) next to a work item if it's done23:37
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