Thursday, 2016-03-24

mriedemclaudiub|2: isn't it 2am for you?00:01
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claudiub|2mriedem: it is.00:01
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claudiub|2doing regression testing. fun times. :)00:01
mriedemah well it is release time00:02
mriedemclaudiub|2: don't worry about stable this week then00:02
mriedemi'll hammer garyk in the morning :)00:02
claudiub|2for example, what amuses me right now is that whenever the network_info we get in the hyper-v driver is accessed, the whole thread freezes -> spawn freezes as well00:02
claudiub|2so, instances are getting stuck in spawning / deleting.00:03
mriedemhmm, that network_info is the async network info wrapper right?00:03
mriedemthat's on a greenthread00:03
claudiub|2yeah00:03
mriedemand blocks until it's populated00:03
mriedemclaudiub|2: did you try a gmr to see what's holding it up?00:03
claudiub|2it doesn't seem to be populated any time soon..00:04
claudiub|2and i'm even more curious as to why i haven't seen this yet in the hyper-v ci.00:04
mriedemsomething in the neutron hyper-v plugin?00:04
mriedemdoes the hyper-v ci use nova-network or the neutron hyper-v plugin?00:05
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claudiub|2it uses neutron hyper-v agent, but that's not the issue00:05
claudiub|2it's an entirely separate process.00:05
claudiub|2plus, the neutron hyper-v agent is waiting to see new VM vnics, so it can bind the respective neutron port.00:06
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Use keystoneclient python bindings for testing  https://review.openstack.org/29659900:13
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claudiub|2mriedem: until a little while ago, the neutron port was being created on instance spawn, if I'm not mistaken. I remember this, because I saw the nova-compute logs whenever the neutron-hyperv-agent was down (-> Neutron would then say binding_failed). So, by the time the hyper-v driver  would get to the spawn, the neutron port was already created.00:17
claudiub|2it seems that this changed. I assume with that async wrapper?00:18
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mriedemclaudiub|2: there were some changes with the async wrapper but only for the tests00:20
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mriedemclaudiub|2: this https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/61fc1b9ee11e416aecbf3a29e1d150a53fc890e800:21
mriedemclaudiub|2: the hyper-v driver doesn't wait for the vif-plugged event like the libvirt driver right?00:22
claudiub|2mriedem: not yet. I have an implementation for it, planning to upload it next week.00:23
claudiub|2mriedem: the bp was approved for mitaka, so I guess it should be re-approved for newton as well.00:23
claudiub|2https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/hyper-v-spawn-on-neutron-event00:24
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claudiub|2anyways, I killed the neutron-hyperv-agent on my host. meaning that if I spawn an instance, it should fail because neutron won't be able to bind the port on my host. yet, the spawn still gets to the hyper-v driver and gets stuck when it tries to access network_info00:25
claudiub|2to get the necessary info to attach the vnics.00:26
claudiub|2looking on nova list / show, there are is no network on the instance00:27
mriedemclaudiub|2: is allocate_for_instance ever completing?00:27
mriedemclaudiub|2: as for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/hyper-v-spawn-on-neutron-event yeah just re-propose the spec00:28
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claudiub|2mriedem: i'm not sure it's even called. let me pun some pdbs.00:29
claudiub|2as for the https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/hyper-v-spawn-on-neutron-event, in Mitaka, it was approved specless.00:29
claudiub|2Since it's not a new idea and it's pretty straight-forward.00:30
openstackgerritJoe Cropper proposed openstack/nova: Add get_host_memory_stats virt driver API  https://review.openstack.org/28883800:30
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claudiub|2well, this was a waste of time and effort.00:42
claudiub|2seems some automation scripts overwrote my nova.conf file, erasing the use_neutron=True config option00:43
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mriedemclaudiub|2: ha00:59
mriedemwell, at least it's not some monster black hole of a bug :)00:59
mriedemget some sleep00:59
claudiub|2yeah, that's good. :) and not yet, still work to do.01:00
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claudiub|2but thanks for the concern, I'll try to get you some palinca in austin. :))01:01
claudiub|2it's good stuff. :))01:01
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mriedemtjones_zzzz: vmware nsx ci seems to never want to run on this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/287055/01:15
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mriedemmelwitt: Vek: finally got a +2 from jenkins on this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296599/01:17
mriedemwe need to land and release that before keystone client does their 3.0 release01:17
mriedemstevemar: ^01:17
* melwitt looks01:17
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mriedemoh i think you'll be pleased01:23
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melwittyou're right!01:24
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openstackgerritBin Zhou proposed openstack/nova: upgrade connection_info when Ceph mon IP changed  https://review.openstack.org/28981301:35
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openstackgerritBin Zhou proposed openstack/nova: upgrade connection_info when Ceph mon IP changed  https://review.openstack.org/28981301:35
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openstackgerritChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/nova: Deprecated option 'mkisofs_cmd' for removal  https://review.openstack.org/26274402:22
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zehuaHI04:20
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openstackgerritapporc proposed openstack/nova: fix admin context scenarios for cinderclient  https://review.openstack.org/29689004:57
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openstackgerritChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/nova: Enhance value check for option notify_on_state_change  https://review.openstack.org/24271705:30
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openstackgerritJianghua Wang proposed openstack/nova: XenAPI: add unit test for plugin test_pluginlib_nova.py  https://review.openstack.org/28638305:45
openstackgerritLianhao Lu proposed openstack/nova-specs: Repropose Need a way to list compute node metric names  https://review.openstack.org/29689405:46
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openstackgerritLianhao Lu proposed openstack/nova-specs: Repropose Need a way to list compute node metric names  https://review.openstack.org/29689405:48
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/29392106:29
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openstackgerritapporc proposed openstack/nova: fix admin context scenarios for cinderclient  https://review.openstack.org/29689006:39
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openstackgerritAnkit Agrawal proposed openstack/nova: Move is_volume_backed_instance to compute.utils  https://review.openstack.org/27048206:43
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openstackgerritDinesh Bhor proposed openstack/nova: Provide user friendly messages for db sync  https://review.openstack.org/29692006:54
openstackgerritAnkit Agrawal proposed openstack/nova: Remove redundant migration status update  https://review.openstack.org/24751906:56
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openstackgerritSrushti Gadadare proposed openstack/nova: Fix invalid uuid warnings in server-group unit tests  https://review.openstack.org/29384007:18
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openstackgerritAnkit Agrawal proposed openstack/nova: Fix evaluation of host disk usage by volume-backed instances  https://review.openstack.org/20087007:34
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openstackgerritAnh Tran proposed openstack/nova: Removes some redundant words  https://review.openstack.org/29692807:37
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openstackgerritVasyl Saienko proposed openstack/nova: Allow to update resource per single node.  https://review.openstack.org/28748507:45
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openstackgerritDina Belova proposed openstack/nova: Integrate OSprofiler and Nova  https://review.openstack.org/25470308:03
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openstackgerritapporc proposed openstack/nova: fix admin context scenarios for cinderclient  https://review.openstack.org/29689008:17
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markus_zjohnthetubaguy: bauzas: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1560860 sounds like a regression to me. A patch is on its way.08:35
openstackLaunchpad bug 1560860 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "mellanox infiniband SR-IOV(ib_hostdev vif) detach port fails" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Moshe Levi (moshele)08:35
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openstackgerritMadhuri Kumari proposed openstack/nova: Fix API Error on hypervisor-uptime API  https://review.openstack.org/28986808:45
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bauzasmarkus_z: morning08:50
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markus_zbauzas: good morning08:50
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bauzasmarkus_z: I wouldn't maybe flag this as Critical since it only impacts only one type of deployment08:51
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markus_zbauzas: hm, yeah.08:52
bauzasmoshele: around ?08:52
bauzasmoshele: I can see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296305/ being -W08:52
markus_zbauzas: thanks for resetting the importance. I'd learn better how to set proper importance if a reasoning is given in a bug report comment. Just as a hint for future work.08:53
bauzasmoshele: so the problem is with suspend AFAIU08:54
bauzasmoshele: it doesn't prevent the instance to boot08:54
bauzasI don't want to nitpick against importance type, but I think it's really not an issue for all08:54
bauzasmoshele: that tho means that SRIOV instances can't resume, which is a regression, I agree08:55
bauzasmarkus_z: ^08:55
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markus_zbauzas: yep, I understand your reasoning now. It was also about spreading that information to others.08:57
moshelebauzas: the problem is with suspend08:59
bauzasmoshele: okay, any plan to finish the change so we could review it ?09:00
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moshelebauzas: yes I plan to do it today09:01
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openstackgerritMadhuri Kumari proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Change aggregate-details to aggregate-show  https://review.openstack.org/28921509:01
bauzasmoshele: cool, FYI we're planning to ship an RC2 candidate by today, that just means your change would only be targeted for RC309:02
moshelebauzas: understood09:02
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bauzasmoshele: are you able to test your change on your local testbed ? I'm very concerned by any functional testing we could do09:03
moshelebauzas: yes, I put W-1 because I have not test on real setup, so now I am preparing SR-IOV setup to test it09:04
bauzascoolness09:08
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bauzasttx: morning09:14
bauzasttx: we plan to deliver RC2 later this morning, but I was hoping to integrate https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296661/2 within the release09:15
bauzasttx: we can wait for the experimental job to run, but I'd appreciate if you could take a look at the above by today :-)09:15
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ttxoops09:18
ttxI think I already approved it09:18
ttxbauzas: ^09:19
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bauzasttx: nah, no worries, it was tested manually in the newton branch09:19
bauzasttx: thanks09:19
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: around ?09:20
johnthetubaguybauzas: hey09:20
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: so, two points09:20
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: not sure you saw the backlog but moshele is working on a regression bugfix09:21
ttxbauzas: also have a translations import queued up09:21
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296305/109:21
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: which means RC309:21
bauzas(anyway)09:21
bauzasttx: oh okay09:21
johnthetubaguybauzas: we need RC3 for translations anyways09:21
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ttxLeft https://review.openstack.org/#/c/295319/ out though, missing PTL / release liaison +209:21
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: agreed, hence my anyway :)09:21
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: so, second point09:22
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: I discussed with tpeoples yesterday on https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/156135709:22
openstackLaunchpad bug 1561357 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "VM deployed with availability-zone (force_hosts) cannot be live migrated to an untargeted host" [Undecided,New]09:22
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bauzasjohnthetubaguy: I don't think it's really a regression, because if the operators forces the destination when booting, he can force the destination when live-migrating (using the host optional field)09:23
johnthetubaguybauzas: oh, its kinda waiting for your API changes09:23
johnthetubaguybauzas: does the force host thing work OK?09:23
johnthetubaguyI guess it does, it skips the scheduler09:24
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bauzasjohnthetubaguy: yeah so there is a workaround09:24
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: the main problem being with the other methods (resize) not possibly asking a destination09:24
johnthetubaguyhmm, yes09:25
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bauzasjohnthetubaguy: my first guess on that (that can be newton-ish I think) is that we should provide force_hosts to the scheduler but not persist it09:25
johnthetubaguyif feels like we should drop that force host for any "move" operation, in a way09:25
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: TBH, I don't like force_hosts, that's a very poor thing09:25
johnthetubaguyI think we need to persist the request spec fully really, but we should think through that09:26
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: but given we support it, let's consider this as non-persistent maybe09:26
johnthetubaguybauzas: so the better affinity stuff we have bp up for should help replace that09:26
johnthetubaguyright now, you kinda need it way more than you would hope09:26
bauzasyeah09:26
bauzasso, here is the thing09:26
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bauzasif people force a destination, that's because they don't trust the scheduler09:27
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johnthetubaguybauzas: well, not always, its because there is no way to tell the scheduler what they want09:27
johnthetubaguybut I guess thats really the same thing09:28
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bauzasI think it's eventually a problem of trusting the scheduler09:28
bauzasif you want to test a specific compute node, you can do that other ways09:28
bauzaslike for example using aggregates09:28
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bauzas(and flavors or whatever)09:29
bauzasso the thing is, force_hosts is not really a contract we should honor in the future09:29
bauzasttx: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/295319/ is not a regression, it's just it never worked09:32
johnthetubaguybauzas: honestly, folks want it09:33
johnthetubaguybauzas: erm, it surely used to right?09:33
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: I agree, do they want to *persist* it ?09:33
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/295319/ is reported by https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1313254 which is OSP6 (Juno)09:33
openstackbugzilla.redhat.com bug 1313254 in openstack-nova "no retry when using 'nova image-list' on next configured glance api_servers endpoint" [High,On_dev] - Assigned to dclarke09:33
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bauzasso maybe saying "never" is too hard09:34
johnthetubaguybauzas: oh, we broke it years ago09:34
johnthetubaguyso fun fact...09:34
johnthetubaguyif you retry, glance will generally give you an error09:34
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johnthetubaguyso it only works for transient errors that trigger 500s, so we should probably not worry about it09:35
bauzasTBH, I'd be far happier if that round-robin was done in the glanceclient instead of the nova wrapper, but whatsoever09:35
markus_zbauzas: As a heads up, we (Germany) have 2 public holidays tomorrow and Monday. In case anyone asks about me.09:36
bauzasanyway, glance v2 for Nova seems a nice thing to focus on Newton, so I'm not really worried by the fix09:36
bauzasmarkus_z: WAAAAAT? Germans have more holidays than France ?09:36
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bauzas:p09:36
johnthetubaguymarkus_z: ah, we are the same in the UK actually, good friday and easter monday off09:36
markus_zbauzas: we strike less ;)09:36
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markus_zjohnthetubaguy: hm? where are you going?09:37
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bauzasjohnthetubaguy: heh, UK was in EU ?09:37
johnthetubaguymarkus_z: its more about what the UK will vote for09:37
bauzas:p09:37
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markus_zoh, that thing09:37
bauzasmarkus_z: I'm flying from GVA now :p09:37
johnthetubaguybauzas: we are the cry babies in the corner moaning all the time, hard to miss us09:37
markus_zhe he :D09:38
markus_zwe like you though09:38
bauzasI stopped departing from LYS for many reasons09:38
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: heh09:38
bauzasI think US folks also have holidays09:39
bauzasfor Easter09:39
johnthetubaguybauzas: I was more thinking that host target is always persisted, but always dropped when re-using a stored request spec, otherwise we loose knowing what the original API request was, but I might be overthinking that09:41
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: interesting thoughts09:41
johnthetubaguybauzas: agreed we can probably hold back on that retry patch09:41
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bauzasjohnthetubaguy: so you see the other way09:41
bauzaswhich is probably better09:42
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tojuvonejohnthetubaguy: Btw drafted some maintenance spec already, but it is kinda under review in OPNFV still as looking the requirements/use cases... so did not bring to API yesterday.09:42
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: unrelated, I'm monitoring https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296661/2 and will provide a release patch against the merge SHA109:43
johnthetubaguytojuvone: OK, they were busy in the end worrying about microversion docs, so that was lucky in some ways09:43
johnthetubaguybauzas: cool, looks like we have a good bunch of translations merged in there, which is great09:44
markus_zjohnthetubaguy: These openstack specs about config options, what will be the impact? Will they result in a guidance for other projects like cinder and neutron?09:44
ildikovjohnthetubaguy:09:44
markus_zjohnthetubaguy: IOW, what's the TC going to do with them?09:45
ildikovjohnthetubaguy: hi :)09:45
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: yeah, hence me waiting for the merge sha1 because the zanate change merging first09:45
tojuvonejohnthetubaguy: Yes, that was important topic. Need those microversion docs asap.09:45
johnthetubaguymarkus_z: its not really for the TC, its more about projects agreeing on how to improve their config options, I liked ttx's point on the ML, we probably should store "best practice" guides separately09:46
ildikovjohnthetubaguy: I just wanted to ask whether you saw the meeting plans for next week regarding the Cinder-Nova API changes we plan to do?09:46
johnthetubaguyildikov: I did, I think with the time change, I should be able to make the end of it09:46
markus_zjohnthetubaguy: ok, got it09:47
johnthetubaguyildikov: but its a tricky time for me, its on one of my rehearsal nights09:47
tojuvonejohnthetubaguy: Meanwhile it might be I wait those OPNFV comments while could otherwise discuss here already.09:47
ildikovjohnthetubaguy: uh, sorry :(09:47
johnthetubaguytojuvone: I would probably go for doing both in parallel really09:47
johnthetubaguyildikov: no worries, its never going to be a perfect time for everyone09:48
ildikovjohnthetubaguy: it's a bit of a challenge to organize a meeting with participants all around the globe, plus time change... :(09:48
johnthetubaguyildikov: yeah, its never fun, you always leave folks out09:48
tojuvonejohnthetubaguy: ok, maybe good because sooner the better. Not the first time I would have redrafted the whole spec to rescope09:49
ildikovjohnthetubaguy: I picked this slot as it at least gives a chance in most time zones, even if it's uncomfortable for a few of us09:50
ildikovjohnthetubaguy: anyway, if you can make it to the end of the meeting I still appreciate, I will ping ndipanov and mriedem as well if they are interested09:51
ildikovjohnthetubaguy: it would be good to have coverage from both teams09:51
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johnthetubaguytojuvone: I would worry about the problem spec the most, at this point, get agreement on that bit09:52
johnthetubaguyildikov: yeah, ping us Tuesday/Wednesday, to remind us, I mean to read through things before the meeting, and see how stuff is going09:53
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tojuvonejohnthetubaguy: Well, maybe I just add it then :)09:55
ildikovjohnthetubaguy: sure, tnx much for support09:55
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openstackgerritJianghua Wang proposed openstack/nova: XenAPI: OVS agent updates the wrong port with Neutron  https://review.openstack.org/24284609:59
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moshelendipanov: hi10:01
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ndipanovhey moshele10:02
moshelendipanov: can you look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296305/10:03
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moshelendipanov: please read the details of the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/156086010:03
openstackLaunchpad bug 1560860 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "mellanox infiniband SR-IOV(ib_hostdev vif) detach port fails" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Moshe Levi (moshele)10:03
ndipanovmoshele, I always read the bug :)10:04
moshelendipanov: :)10:04
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ndipanovmoshele, so using vif data instead of libvirt config works in all cases?10:08
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ndipanovor I guess the question is - do you think it's more robust then relying on the libvirt config even if it requires different cases for different xml elements10:09
ndipanovmoshele, ^10:09
ndipanovlet me ask it on the review10:09
moshelendipanov: yes this is also an option10:10
openstackgerritRyan Moore proposed openstack/nova: Add better help to rdp options  https://review.openstack.org/25355610:10
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moshelendipanov: what do you think? maybe relaying on the vif is not that good10:11
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ndipanovmoshele, tbh I am not sure10:13
ndipanovmoshele, well actually get_config will get it from the vif anyway right?10:14
moshelendipanov:  a sec looking at the code10:16
ndipanovmoshele, yeah found it10:17
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openstackgerritMadhuri Kumari proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Change aggregate-details to aggregate-show  https://review.openstack.org/28921510:18
moshelendipanov: yes, so I think the fix is ok10:18
moshelendipanov: and the Ethernet  mellanox ci passed so I didn't break it for Ethernet sr-iov10:20
ndipanovok10:20
ndipanovlet me comment10:20
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openstackgerritTomi Juvonen proposed openstack/nova-specs: Set the time period when host is under maintenance  https://review.openstack.org/29699510:22
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openstackgerritMadhuri Kumari proposed openstack/nova: Fix API Error on hypervisor-uptime API  https://review.openstack.org/28986810:29
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bauzasjohnthetubaguy: mriedem: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/297006/10:43
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johnthetubaguybauzas: hmm, got reordered in the gate I guess, but that looks good10:46
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: nope, I just verified against http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/nova/log/?h=stable/mitaka10:46
johnthetubaguybauzas: I was expecting the translations to go first for some reason, but its all good10:48
bauzasme too, but zuul left us wondering :p10:48
openstackgerritWenzhi Yu proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add network monitor for compute node  https://review.openstack.org/29701110:49
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openstackgerritJohn Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: Config options: Centralize resource tracker options  https://review.openstack.org/29421111:21
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openstackgerritJohn Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: Config options: Centralize netconf options  https://review.openstack.org/29431211:27
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pkoniszewskibauzas: hey, there?11:30
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pkoniszewskibauzas: nvm, just found out that we are safe with soft-affinity/anti-affinity11:39
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openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Add ResourcePool and ResourcePoolList objects  https://review.openstack.org/28496311:47
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openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Add Allocation and AllocationList objects  https://review.openstack.org/28244211:54
openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Add ResourcePool and ResourcePoolList objects  https://review.openstack.org/28496311:54
openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Add a get_by_uuid for aggregates  https://review.openstack.org/28489511:54
openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Add name to ResourceProvider object  https://review.openstack.org/28194511:54
openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova: WIP resource-pools/placement api  https://review.openstack.org/29310411:54
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cdentjohnthetubaguy: I've reorderd that stack of resource-* stuff so that that allocation item stuff is at the start, since it is associated with the resource-providers spec which is re-approved. Can you take your -2 off https://review.openstack.org/282442 ?11:58
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openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Add ResourcePool and ResourcePoolList objects  https://review.openstack.org/28496311:59
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openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova: WIP resource-pools/placement api  https://review.openstack.org/29310412:00
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cdentdansmith: What's the current state on the compute-node-inventory stuff, if any? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/279313/12:04
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mriedemsnow day!12:21
alaskimelwitt: thanks! http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-March/090291.html12:22
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mriedemalaski: if you click off the comment, you can move around again12:26
mriedemnot helpful if you're mid-comment though12:26
mriedemi sometimes open the same review in 2 tabs, one for reference and one for commenting12:26
alaskiyeah, I end up doing that as well at times12:27
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alaskibut the big issue is the opposite, the page moves as I'm commenting12:27
alaskiand I end up typing into a comment box that's no longer on screen12:27
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mriedemhmm, i don't think i've had that issue12:28
mriedemmdbooth: it looks like the entire development staff at ZTE disagree with us https://review.openstack.org/#/c/289813/:)12:28
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garykjohnthetubaguy: can you please remove your -2 - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/188321/12:31
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mriedemndipanov: jbernard_: jdurgin: if you have rbd people at red hat, it would be good if they could look at this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/289813/12:39
Kevin_Zhengjohnthetubaguy: can you remove -2 on this one, it was also part of config job https://review.openstack.org/#/c/272949/12:39
openstackgerritChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/nova: Just use 'last_seen_up' to check service's status  https://review.openstack.org/29708512:39
mriedemcburgess: also fyi on this rbd thing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/289813/12:39
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: config options: centralize section: "glance"  https://review.openstack.org/25715312:45
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openstackgerritAndrey Kurilin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Make quotas commands more user-friendly  https://review.openstack.org/29055612:51
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cdentbauzas, mriedem, johnthetubaguy, jaypipes, dansmith: I've updated the scheduler section on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-nova-priorities-tracking to reflect what I know. It is missing information about the compute-node-inventory stuff. dansmith can you add/update that please?12:57
mriedemarmax: the port_security_enabled stuff has been a problem in nova for a long time, there is another attempt at a fix here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/284095/ - would be good to get some neutron cores on that12:57
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mriedemndipanov: the bug for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296305/ is marked as an rc blocker, do you think we should hold up rc2 for it?13:04
ildikovmriedem: hi13:04
ildikovmriedem: sorry, it was already bedtime for me yesterday, when you pinged13:04
mriedemildikov: i didn't think you slept13:04
ildikovmriedem: the answer to your question is yes, I plan to re-submit the blueprint for Newton13:05
mriedemildikov: with probably updates for the detach case?13:05
ildikovmriedem: I'm sick a bit, so this time, I went to bed in time, otherwise you're right, I usually stay up late :)13:05
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ildikovmriedem: if you saw my mail on the list we plan to have a meeting regarding Cinder-Nova interaction issues13:06
ildikovmriedem: one part of that is multiattach of course13:06
ildikovthe plan is to have a cross-project spec to capture the big picture13:06
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mriedemildikov: i don't think i saw that one yet13:06
mriedemmeeting at the summit?13:06
openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Add name to ResourceProvider object  https://review.openstack.org/28194513:07
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ildikovI thought to update the multiattach spec after we see what will be covered by the API changes13:07
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ildikovmriedem: IRC meeting next Wednesday 2100UTC13:07
ildikovmriedem: I would like to have a Cinder-Nova session on the Summit too13:07
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ildikovmriedem: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-nova-api-changes13:08
openstackgerritAndreas Scheuring proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] libvirt: Update interface xml definition on migration  https://review.openstack.org/29710013:10
mriedemildikov: can you send me a link to the ML thread?13:10
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mriedemildikov: nvm, it's in the etherpad13:11
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ildikovmriedem: :) it's here if you would want to check it later still: http://osdir.com/ml/openstack-dev/2016-03/msg02426.html13:12
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mriedemildikov: ok, i'll be there13:13
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ildikovmriedem: great, thanks much13:14
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mriedemildikov: we'll have a cinder/nova session at the summit, but would be good to iron out stuff before that 40 minute slot13:14
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mriedemjohnthetubaguy: bauzas: i'm assuming you guys saw this new rc potential bug already https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/156086013:15
openstackLaunchpad bug 1560860 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "mellanox infiniband SR-IOV(ib_hostdev vif) detach port fails" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Moshe Levi (moshele)13:15
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mriedemjohnthetubaguy: bauzas: just wondering if we should release rc2 now since we know we're still going to have an rc3 for translations13:15
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ildikovmriedem: of course, with scottda we're trying to put together a cross-project spec as I said earlier so that we would not need to handle everything in the multiattach spec which does not necessarily belong there on the first place13:15
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mriedemildikov: you might want to read thingee's thred about cross-project specs13:16
mriedemseems like this would just be a cinder and a nova spec, separately13:16
openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Add Allocation and AllocationList objects  https://review.openstack.org/28244213:16
openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Add name to ResourceProvider object  https://review.openstack.org/28194513:16
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mriedemmy understanding is cross project specs are things that go into all openstack projects, like logging, api guidelines, et13:16
mriedem*etc13:16
ildikovmriedem: we also organize this meeting for this reason or maybe it will even be a meeting series until we don't get to some agreement13:16
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ildikovmriedem: from the last discussion with him our understanding was that we can capture the high level goals there and then the specifics go into specs in each project13:17
openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Add a get_by_uuid for aggregates  https://review.openstack.org/28489513:17
ildikovmriedem: but well, if we get there that this (administrational) part will be the biggest issue to sort out, I'll be pretty happy :)13:18
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bauzasmriedem: yup, we discussed about the above bug for RC313:19
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mriedemildikov: agreed13:19
bauzasmriedem: moshele will update it by today IIUC13:19
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bauzasmriedem: and we agreed on providing a RC2 now but saying we'll also have another RC13:20
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sahidmriedem: when you have a moment can you re-approve https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/libvirt-clean-driver13:22
mriedemsahid: yeah, sec13:22
sahidsince it's long background work i would like to start soon for this release13:22
sahidcool thanks13:22
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edleafemelwitt: just saw your post re: gerrit jumping around. I thought it was just something odd on my machine.13:23
mriedemsahid: done, althought we probably should have created a libvirt-clean-driver-newton blueprint for newton work, john has been doing that for some of these multi-series refactor/cleanup blueprints13:23
mriedem*although13:23
mriedembauzas: i see some NFV CI even failed on the original change, but it's not clear to me that they failed because of that actual change, which sucks. would be good if the SRIOV CI actually tests suspend13:24
garykjohnthetubaguy: there are a number of patches that ytou have blocked with -2 as it was the end of mitaka. any chance you can remove those?13:24
bauzasmriedem: totally agreed, we're missing some coverage here13:25
mriedemthis wouldn't be the reason :) http://144.76.193.39/ci-artifacts/262341/7/Nova-ML2-Sriov/logs/n-sch.log.gz13:25
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mriedemhuh http://intel-openstack-ci-logs.ovh/compute-ci/refs/changes/41/262341/7/compute-nfv-flavors/20160215_232057/screen/n-sch.log.gz13:26
mriedemsame in the intel nfv ci13:26
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openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: plugins/xenserver: Add '.py' extension  https://review.openstack.org/28943113:29
johnthetubaguygaryk: I can if the blueprints are approved first, which ones are you thinking about, I ended up having to do a few hundred -2s in the end13:29
tbachmanjohnthetubaguy (et. al.): was wondering if someone would be willing to have a look at this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/288076/13:31
garykjohnthetubaguy: ok, so we need an approved bp to be re-approved?13:31
johnthetubaguygaryk: yes, as with the last few releases, a blueprint is only approved for a specific release13:32
garykjohnthetubaguy: the bp was approved at the beginning of mitaka. no one reviewed the code … so it was blocked at the end of m.13:32
garykok. understood.13:32
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johnthetubaguymriedem: meant to ask, for the specless stuff from last cycle, I guess you are OK with us doing the re-approve if folks want to keep doing that one?13:34
johnthetubaguy(unless it was blocked for some good reason)13:34
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mriedemjohnthetubaguy: yeah, i did one for hyper-v last night (to wait for neutron vif plugged events) and one for sahid and libvirt this morning, although as noted the libvirt driver cleanup blueprint probably should have been closed for mitaka and opened a new one for newton13:36
mriedemsince it's a multi-series cleanup effort13:36
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dansmithmriedem: I replied to all your comments13:42
dansmithI think the only valid one from you and alex is the alignment one, but let me know before I rebase that mondo set13:42
edleafebauzas: I updated the Nova Scheduler meeting page, and added an Agenda page. Can you check out https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296786/ and give your approval if it looks good?13:42
bauzasedleafe: ack13:43
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johnthetubaguymriedem: ah, yeah13:44
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mriedemndipanov: moshele: when booting an instance with an sriov port, do we always have a pci request id when allocating the network?13:47
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack/nova: Clarify the ``use_neutron`` option upgrade notes.  https://review.openstack.org/29712913:48
openstackgerritThomas Maddox proposed openstack/nova: [WIP - DO NOT MERGE] Testing LXC Gate  https://review.openstack.org/27479213:48
mriedemdansmith: ok, might have to wait until after the meeting13:48
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dansmithmriedem: okay13:49
* tbachman wonders what’s the appropriate way is to have a patch in nova considered by cores13:49
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moshelemriedem: so when booting  sriov ports nova will create pci request to each on see https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/network/neutronv2/api.py#L105213:51
mriedemmoshele: ah ok, that was what i was missing13:52
mriedemtbachman: first, there are like 900 open patches in nova13:52
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tbachman:(13:52
mriedemtbachman: second, it's the vmware driver and there is supposed to be a subteam that reviews those first before going to the core team13:52
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mriedemtbachman: so garyk is your guy13:52
tbachmanmriedem: I think garyk gave it a +1, fwiw13:52
mriedemtbachman: not on the latest revision13:53
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack/nova: Clarify the ``use_neutron`` option upgrade notes.  https://review.openstack.org/29712913:53
tbachmanmriedem: ah — good point13:53
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Further hack up the nova.tests.unit.db.fakes module of horribleness  https://review.openstack.org/29610613:53
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Objectify test_flavors and test_flavors_extra_specs  https://review.openstack.org/29610513:53
tbachmanmriedem: thx!13:53
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Make flavor extra_specs operations work against the API DB  https://review.openstack.org/29471013:54
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Block flavor creation until main database is empty  https://review.openstack.org/29531013:54
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Add flavor migration routine  https://review.openstack.org/29477113:54
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Make Flavor access routines work against API database  https://review.openstack.org/29431313:54
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Make Flavor create() and destroy() work against API DB  https://review.openstack.org/29475813:54
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* tbachman also deos the math of 900 patches between 14 cores ::(13:54
tbachman:(13:54
tbachmans/deos/does13:54
tbachmangaryk: when you have a moment, can you review the latest: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/288076/ ?13:55
tbachmangaryk: thanks!13:56
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garyktbachman: i have taken a  look and its kosher. there is one rule - you bitch about the review process your patch goes to the back of the queue…13:56
tbachmanlol13:57
tbachmangaryk: definitely not bitching13:57
garyk:)13:57
tbachmanjust new to the openstack review process13:57
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mriedemyeah, i'm not saying tbachman is bitching,13:57
tbachmanI’ve worked on OpenDaylight, but that’s certainly a different (and smaller) community13:57
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mriedemi realize he's relatively new, so i'm just explaining why it takes awhile13:57
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tbachmanso, trying to feel my way around here13:57
tbachmanmriedem: much appreciated13:58
mriedemjohnthetubaguy: has a nice wiki page somewhere explaining this in more polite terms13:58
sarafrajmorning13:58
diana_clarkebauzas: (from earlier today) "glance v2 for Nova seems a nice thing to focus on Newton, so I'm not really worried by the fix"13:59
mriedemtbachman: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/how_to_get_involved.html13:59
bauzasdiana_clarke: yup?13:59
johnthetubaguytbachman: got some tips on things here: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/how_to_get_involved.html and http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/process.html#how-do-i-get-my-code-merged13:59
diana_clarkebauzas: Bug 1557584 will also happen in galnce v213:59
openstackbug 1557584 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Broken retry mechanism for 'nova image-list'" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1557584 - Assigned to Diana Clarke (diana-clarke)13:59
* tbachman realizes he’s had a #googlefail13:59
tbachmanmriedem: johnthetubaguy thanks!13:59
bauzasdiana_clarke: okay, I just wonder why we should carry all the logic in our wrapper anyway14:00
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diana_clarkebauzas: Some of that discussion happened here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/293127/14:00
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mriedemtbachman: we also have a vmware subteam section in this review etherpad here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-nova-priorities-tracking14:00
diana_clarkebauzas: This is just a bug fix for something that's been that way since 2011/201214:00
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bauzasdiana_clarke: agreed, just saying it's not a regression14:01
bauzasdiana_clarke: I haven't fenced your stable change, it should just been approved once stable/mitaka becomes a real stable branch :)14:01
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dansmithalex_xu: if you're still around can you check my replies to your comments?14:02
alex_xudansmith: yea, i'm reading14:02
dansmiththanks14:02
diana_clarkebauzas: And what happens to the cherry pick in the stable/liberty branch? Is it still possible once mitaka is cut?14:02
bauzasdiana_clarke: I feel so14:03
bauzasdiana_clarke: not super sure tho, there is some discussion about that14:03
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diana_clarkebauzas: And can "normal" core reviewers +2 stable branch reviews, or is it a limited subset?14:04
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dansmithnot a subset14:05
dansmithdifferent set14:05
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dansmithis this the glance generator thing?14:05
bauzasdiana_clarke: no, only nova-stable-maints14:05
diana_clarkedansmith: yup, the tiny bug that keeps on giving ;)14:06
dansmithI haven't followed the discussion, but I think it's probably appropriate for backport14:06
scheuranHi markus_z, would be great if you could have a look at my live migration prototype :) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/297100/14:07
sdaguejohnthetubaguy / bauzas / mriedem - https://review.openstack.org/297129 - brought up by Sam-I-Am as an issue when install guide testing14:07
sdagueit just clarifies that the new option replaces 2 instead of one14:07
diana_clarkedansmith: I'm just worried that if the cherry pick in stable/liberty doesn't get merged soon, that stable/liberty will become stable/old_stable and it won't be eligible anymore.14:08
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mriedemsdague: ok14:08
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markus_zscheuran: sure, will do14:08
dansmithdiana_clarke: yeah, well, that's how it goes, but I don't think that's going to happen super quick14:08
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diana_clarkedansmith: Yeah, I'll wait an see. There was some conversation about it earlier, but it was 5am my time so I missed it.14:09
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scheuranmarkus_z, please don't spend too much time on optimizing the code - there are many findings - review focus should be more about the concept14:10
scheuranmarkus_z, thx14:10
markus_zscheuran: ok. the format got screwed up btw14:10
markus_zscheuran: It's not possible to find the real diff14:11
markus_zscheuran: could you push a new one?14:11
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scheuranmarkus_z, oh ok14:11
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scheuranmarkus_z, oh, probably this was my new pycharm setup :/14:12
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alex_xudansmith: np14:16
alex_xudansmith: so we can't upgrade any commit between 'create against api db' patch and 'block creation' patch?14:17
dansmithalex_xu: you can, you'd just have to be careful. I would rather land those all at the same time with a small window of "be careful" than to block creation early with no way to get out of it14:17
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* tbachman realizes he’s already violated one of the principles: “Please don’t ask for core review straight away, especially not directly (IRC or email)”14:19
tbachmanoops :(14:19
tbachmanmriedem: johnthetubaguy: sorry :(14:20
mriedemtbachman: it's fine14:20
johnthetubaguytbachman: hey no worries, you are reaching out and willing to learn, that beats all of those14:20
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alex_xudansmith: ok, got it, thanks. And I didn't realize the id and flavor id problem also, i will try to revisit the patch tomorrow, let me remove -1 first.14:21
dansmithalex_xu: yeah, the flavor.id and flavorid problem is *ridiculous* :(14:21
tbachmanjohnthetubaguy: mriedem: russellb’s link on average times is helpful — gives perspective on how long it takes cores to work through (realisticaally) on the backlog14:22
tbachman(that was linked on the link you sent me, so thx)14:22
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alex_xudansmith: heh14:23
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openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: nova-manage: Use consistent prints for errors  https://review.openstack.org/28930914:24
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openstackgerritArtom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova: Add tag column to vifs and bdm  https://review.openstack.org/26401414:28
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: plugins/xenserver: Add '.py' extension  https://review.openstack.org/28943114:28
openstackgerritRadoslav Gerganov proposed openstack/nova: The 'record' option of the WebSocketProxy should be string  https://review.openstack.org/29451214:29
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openstackgerritArtom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova: Add metadata objects for device tagging  https://review.openstack.org/26401514:30
openstackgerritAndreas Scheuring proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] libvirt: Update interface xml definition on migration  https://review.openstack.org/29718414:30
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openstackgerritAndreas Scheuring proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] libvirt: Update interface xml definition on migration  https://review.openstack.org/29710014:32
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tpeoplesbauzas: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1561357 for a detailed description of the issue i brought up last night14:33
openstackLaunchpad bug 1561357 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "VM deployed with availability-zone (force_hosts) cannot be live migrated to an untargeted host" [Undecided,New]14:33
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bauzastpeoples: we discussed on that this morning and we'll continue right after the nova meeting14:34
scheuranmarkus_z, done https://review.openstack.org/#/c/297100/14:34
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tpeoplesbauzas: ah okay, just got on. sounds good, thanks14:34
sbezverkGood morning, any plan to backport this patch to liberty? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/265163/14:35
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openstackgerritArtom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova: Libvirt driver implementation of device tagging  https://review.openstack.org/26401614:37
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armaxmriedem: looking14:40
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cdentIs there a tentative vague date for newton mid-cycle?14:46
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* johnthetubaguy hopes its in Q3...14:47
cdentditto14:47
openstackgerritArtom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova: Add compute manager device tagging support  https://review.openstack.org/26401714:47
mriedemsbezverk: you should probably ask in the #openstack-oslo channel14:48
mriedemcdent: no idea, it's usually around the 3rd milestone14:49
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sfinucanI want to integrate cliff [1] into nova-manage (and maybe more). Does that need a spec? [1] http://docs.openstack.org/developer/cliff/14:49
markus_zscheuran: much less changes :)14:49
sfinucanit's an alternative to this change which seems error prone, IMO https://review.openstack.org/#/c/289309/14:49
sfinucan*'ERROR: ' prone, heh14:50
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johnthetubaguysfinucan: yeah, that feels like a specless bp I guess14:55
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openstackgerritArtom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova: Device tagging user visible changes  https://review.openstack.org/26401814:56
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zehuaHI14:57
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jaypipesmriedem: sorry, I needed to step away from the Nova IRC meeting. cdent informs me that no new specs will be approved until after the summit. is that correct? :(15:04
mriedemjaypipes: yes15:05
jaypipesmriedem: can I ask why?15:05
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mriedemjaypipes: as i told cdent, imagine a large clogged toilet15:05
mriedemjaypipes: we're only re-approving previously approved specs/bp's until the summit15:06
jaypipesmriedem: so let the shit sit in the bowl for a month?15:06
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mriedemjaypipes: no, work on plunging through the shit that's in there so it flushes through15:06
mriedemi.e. flush what we have before piling on more shit15:06
* mriedem likes this technical discussion15:06
mriedemjaypipes: we already have at least 20 previously approved specs in newton15:07
mriedemwe have plenty of stuff that is carried over from mitaka that needs to get done before we start taking on new things15:07
mriedemwhich includes resource providers stuff, os-vif, cells v2 and someothers15:07
mriedemi'm going to post something to -dev list shortly15:07
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jaypipesmriedem: resource providers wasn't approved in mitaka, unfortunately.15:08
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jaypipesmriedem: which means waiting another month or more to discuss it, which is kinda frustrating considering a good chunk of the code for it is already up.15:09
mriedemwe just re-approved resource-providers yesterday15:09
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jaypipesmriedem: compute-node-inventory, resource-providers-allocations, and generic-resource-pools are the primary ones. resource-providers blueprint was pretty much already completed in Mitaka.15:10
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jaypipesmriedem: mostly this is my fault for not having had these blueprints in a good order.15:11
sbezverkmriedem thank you15:11
jaypipesmriedem: I'm just wary of missing even more time on this particular effort.15:11
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dansmithjaypipes: this approach is to try to avoid things we know we need to work on waiting until milestone 3 again15:11
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dansmithjaypipes: instead of approving a bunch of new shit, finishing the shit we previously approved (or thought we approved because there are like eight things)15:12
sfinucanjohnthetubaguy: Done. Do I need to get approval for specless BPs, or do I just start work? :) https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/cliff-integration15:12
openstackgerritJohn Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: Add prototype feature classification matrix  https://review.openstack.org/26471915:12
jaypipesdansmith: right, but this means that -2s are going to be stuck on all these resource-provider related patches for 5+ more weeks.15:12
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mriedemjaypipes: we need to get the things done that were in progress in mitaka15:12
mriedempeople can keep proposing specs,15:12
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johnthetubaguysfinucan: you do need approval, the downside is we just blocked approvals till post summit, I think15:13
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mriedembut we need to focus review effort on what's been re-approved already15:13
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dansmithjaypipes: the things we were working on in mitaka and failed to get in should be freed up15:13
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dansmithI've lost track of all the blueprints and what was approved and not15:13
dansmithbut things like the inventory stuff which we were trying to get into mitaka should be good to go now, no?15:14
dansmithseems there's quite a bit of that to do15:14
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jaypipesdansmith: pretty much nothing was approved other than the one initial spec for adding the resource-providers database schema and that's already been done.15:14
johnthetubaguydansmith: right, that stuff we should unblock I think15:14
* johnthetubaguy is confused15:14
dansmithjaypipes: we were trying to land all the inventory stuff and didn't15:14
dansmithjaypipes: so that stuff should be good to go now15:14
jaypipesdansmith: compute-node-inventory was not approved. resource-providers-allocations, not approved. generic-resource-pools, not approved.15:14
* dansmith is really frustrated15:15
jaypipesit's been stuck in endless spec reviews.15:15
dansmithjaypipes: I get that things are broken out into a hundred pieces, and that you know which are approved and I don't15:15
dansmithhowever15:15
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jaypipesdansmith: Dan, I was asked to split the big spec into multiple pieces.15:15
dansmithI think we can be practical here and continue to try to land the things that may not have been technically approved, but which we were *planning* to land in mitaka15:15
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dansmithmriedem: the spirit of the approach is to flush the queue of things we were working on until we cut off for rc1 yes?15:16
mriedemdansmith: yes15:16
cdentp!hist15:17
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jaypipesrc1>15:17
jaypipes?15:17
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openstackgerritJohn Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: Get support matrix notes from the ini file  https://review.openstack.org/26476315:18
dansmithyeah, which would include all the inventory stuff, IMHO15:18
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jaypipesdansmith: you mean milestone 1?15:18
dansmithup to but not including the allocation stuff15:18
dansmithjaypipes: no15:18
openstackgerritJohn Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: Add prototype feature classification matrix  https://review.openstack.org/26471915:18
dansmithI mean rc115:18
dansmiththe things we were trying to land in mitaka15:18
jaypipesI thought we were aiming to get the scheduler REST API (generic-resource-pools) split out in Newton?15:19
openstackgerritJohn Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: Get support matrix notes from the ini file  https://review.openstack.org/26476315:19
dansmithjaypipes: I don't even know, I haven't looked that far.. that's newton stuff, I'm talking about things we wanted in mitaka and didn't get15:19
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jaypipesdansmith: oh, shit, sorry, you're talking about *Mitaka* RC1.15:19
dansmithyes15:19
bauzasjaypipes: I think we can continue discussing on the series in the spec and in the implementation patches so that we reach consensus at a certain point in time and just leave the approvals be there for summit time15:19
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jaypipesffs, I thought you were talking about Newton RC1.15:19
jaypipeswhcih is why I was freaking out.15:20
dansmithjaypipes: in five minutes we're going to talk about the Z release milestone 2, fasten your seatbelt15:20
dansmithno man15:20
bauzasjaypipes: that doesn't really block progress, right?15:20
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dansmithwe're trying to get the runway open for things we wanted in mitaka but didn't get15:20
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dansmithinstead of waiting for summit, defining priorities, etc15:20
dansmithassuming those have an obvious pass to land early15:20
jaypipesbauzas: it leaves a whole bunch of -2s blocking a whole series of patches.15:20
dansmithbefore we start approving specs for *new* things15:20
bauzasjaypipes: well, I see that as a feature branch15:21
bauzasjaypipes: with a -2 at the bottom of the branch until we approve it15:21
jaypipesdansmith: I understand that. I'd just like some clarity on the three specific specs I listed above, none of which were approved for Mitaka.15:21
dansmithunfortunately, I don't think the specs matched the reality of how we had to land things, and the latter is all I really care about15:22
dansmithso, IMHO, everything up to but not including the allocation stuff should be fair game right now,15:22
dansmithregardless of the position of the specs15:22
dansmithI'll let mriedem make the calls on that, but that's my advice15:22
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mriedemi honestly don't have a grasp on what's landed, what was in progress, what was close, etc for that effort in mitaka15:23
mriedemi know there is one change for a re-approved spec yesterday15:23
mriedemwhich is dependent on 2 technically not-approved bp things,15:23
mriedembut as dansmith said, it seems the specs and code changes aren't in the same order15:24
mriedemand in this case i think we have to land dependencies to get to the in-progress mitaka-approved thing15:24
dansmiththey can't be, which isn't necessarily a problem15:24
dansmiththe specs are in like theoretical order15:24
dansmithor modeling order15:24
dansmithbut in reality, we have to land things in a specific order15:24
mriedemright, i'm just using that as an example15:24
dansmithyeah15:24
mriedemthis https://review.openstack.org/#/c/282442/15:25
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mriedemlooking at that today, it's been re-ordered15:25
dansmiththat has gotten basically no review at this point, AFAIK15:25
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dansmithI split it out of a larger patch specifically to save it for newton15:26
cdentmriedem: I moved allocation to the start of that stack this morning15:26
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mriedemcdent: ok15:26
cdentbecause of the different specs things are attached to15:26
cdent(based on the version of this conversation that was had I think yesterday)15:26
jaypipesdansmith: I reviewed that patch yesterday.15:26
mriedemso let me send this info out to the dev list15:26
dansmithit's this stuff that I think gets the pass: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/279313/15:26
dansmithjaypipes: review in mitaka15:26
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openstackgerritSergey Belous proposed openstack/nova: Do not merge. Patch exists for testing os-vif with Nova  https://review.openstack.org/28608615:28
mriedemjohnthetubaguy: please drop the -2 from https://review.openstack.org/#/c/282442/15:28
jaypipeslemme open this in Gertty so I don't want to stab someone with a rusty spork.15:28
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jaypipesdansmith: so your compute node inventory is dependent on this patch from me: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286931/15:30
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dansmithjaypipes: correct15:31
jaypipesdansmith: which has had a -2 from johnthetubaguy for weeks and no reviews.15:31
dansmithwhich should be un-2'd at this point15:31
dansmithjaypipes: he -2d it the day of the rc15:31
dansmithper the plan, and per the discussion15:31
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jaypipesdansmith: I'm not arguing that. I'm arguing that if we stuck with the plan of not working on anything that didn't get approved in mitaka, this particular patch would remain -2'd until after the summit. And that's what I'm frustrated about.15:32
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dansmithno dude15:32
jaypipesbecause, again, the spec hasn't been approved: https://review.openstack.org/26004815:32
dansmithokay, I think I'm done :)15:32
jaypipesdansmith: Dan, please work with me here.15:33
jaypipesI am trying to understand what is and what isn't blocked until the summit.15:33
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mriedemi see jaypipes' point, but wasn't involved in the mitaka effort so have to defer to dansmith on exceptions in this case15:34
dansmithmriedem: damn you15:34
openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: move graphic/serial consoles check at pre_live_migration  https://review.openstack.org/25470915:35
openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: live_migration_flags/block_migration_flags default to 0  https://review.openstack.org/29593315:35
openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: add "get_job_info" to Guest's object  https://review.openstack.org/25074015:35
openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: add method to configure max downtime when migrating  https://review.openstack.org/25073915:35
openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: add "abort_job" to Guest's object  https://review.openstack.org/25073815:35
openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: add method "migrate" to Guest's object  https://review.openstack.org/25036515:35
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bauzasmriedem: dansmith: johnthetubaguy: tpeoples: resuming our convo about https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/156135715:38
openstackLaunchpad bug 1561357 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "VM deployed with availability-zone (force_hosts) cannot be live migrated to an untargeted host" [Undecided,New]15:38
bauzasif you damn have time :-)15:38
johnthetubaguymriedem: dropped that -215:39
mriedemjohnthetubaguy: saw that, thanks15:40
mriedembauzas: sending this ML thread atm15:40
openstackgerritRadoslav Gerganov proposed openstack/nova: The 'record' option of the WebSocketProxy should be string  https://review.openstack.org/29451215:40
bauzasmriedem: take your time, we can discuss later15:40
bauzassee, I can understand priorities ? :p15:41
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dansmithjaypipes: mriedem: so if you want to continue I think we should get on a hangout where I can make lewd hand gestures. at the end of the day, I'm just trying to advise this process based on what has been reviewed more heavily, what I wanted us to land in mitaka vs. wait for newton, etc15:43
dansmithI don't really want to get yelled at15:43
dansmithbecause really all I've tried to do for this set is get it landed as much as possible in the short time window we had15:43
jaypipesdansmith: I'm not yelling at you.15:43
dansmithjaypipes: you are in my head15:43
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jaypipesdansmith: and I appreciate everything you have done in this series so far, I do. My personal frustration is on the blueprint side. I just want to see these darn specs land.15:44
mriedemdansmith: NO ONE IS YELLING AT YOU15:44
dansmithalso, I'm out tomorrow15:45
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dansmithand I'm going to be digging in the mud and swearing at all you people while I do it15:45
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johnthetubaguyactually good point, I am out tomorrow and monday, due to holidays in the UK15:46
mriedemi'll be clearing my driveway of snow after i get this email sent15:46
mriedemeaster?!15:46
mriedempeople get days off for that?15:46
johnthetubaguyyeah15:46
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johnthetubaguyhttps://www.gov.uk/bank-holidays15:46
mriedemman15:46
mriedemha15:46
mriedemi might need a day off from the belly full of jelly beans i'm going to consume15:47
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cdentdansmith, jaypipes, johnthetubaguy : since you're all warmed up on this resource-* can you guys provide some input on the questions and comments on patchset 12 on this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/284895/ It's about where to put the DB methods. I essentially agree with what jay suggests, but didn't think that patch was the place to change the pattern.15:49
markus_zsame holidays in Germany, so I'm back on Tuesday15:49
bauzasit's a cabal of european countries for making French people sad, I guess15:50
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johnthetubaguycdent: I honestly thought that was just for the api_database stuff at this point, or maybe new objects, seems odd to do half and half in an existing object15:51
jaypipescdent: ah, yeah, I need to re-post a review on that. basically, I'm good with putting that in the nova.db.api module to keep it consistent with what's already there if doffm plans to overhaul it anyway.15:51
cdentright on, thanks guys15:52
johnthetubaguydid we deprecate the DB driver now, I think...15:52
* cdent just wants to gets some of this stuff merged15:52
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johnthetubaguythat should help tidy that stuff up soon15:52
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johnthetubaguymriedem: so we had this approved for mitaka, shall I create one for newton? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/compute-node-inventory, basically to unblock this series that we were working on: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/279313/15:55
openstackgerritEd Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Move config options from nova/api directory  https://review.openstack.org/25818015:55
openstackgerritEd Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Improve the help text for the API options (2)  https://review.openstack.org/26058715:55
openstackgerritEd Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Improve the help text for the API options (1)  https://review.openstack.org/26058615:55
openstackgerritEd Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Improve the help text for the API options (3)  https://review.openstack.org/26058815:55
openstackgerritEd Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Improve the help text for the API options (4)  https://review.openstack.org/29723715:55
cdentjohnthetubaguy: huh, I see my name all over a lot of that blueprint page but very little of the code is from me. Perhaps that's part of my confusion...16:00
mriedemjohnthetubaguy: yeah maybe, that's that weird case where the bp was approved but the spec wasn't16:00
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johnthetubaguymriedem: yeah, I think we did that in the end to get it moving16:01
mriedemjohnthetubaguy: i'm fine with that then, and i think it helps with jaypipes's worries about that one, and keeps dansmith's changes moving16:01
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mriedemat least thats my (limited) understanding16:01
johnthetubaguymriedem: yeah, the stuff we all seem to agree on, just keep it moving, basically16:02
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openstackgerritAndrey Kurilin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Make quotas commands more user-friendly  https://review.openstack.org/29055616:04
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mriedemjohnthetubaguy: dansmith: so on clearing out https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-nova-priorities-tracking - thoughts on leaving the sub-team headers in there and just wiping the contents, or just drop everything below the top headers?16:11
mriedemi figured i'd leave the section headers but clear the section contents16:11
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mriedemdone https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-nova-priorities-tracking16:21
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johnthetubaguymriedem_snow: that works16:32
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sahidjohnthetubaguy: some patches here still have your -2, can you removed them when you have a moment https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/libvirt-clean-driver16:37
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openstackgerritJohn Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: Migrate compute node resource information to Inventory objects  https://review.openstack.org/27931316:38
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openstackgerritJohn Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: Make compute_node_statistics() use new schema  https://review.openstack.org/28693116:39
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openstackgerritJohn Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: Add Service.get_minimum_version_multi() for multiple binaries  https://review.openstack.org/27931216:40
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bauzasmriedem_snow: http://fr.snow-forecast.com/resorts/Les7Laux/6day/mid if you need this16:44
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bauzasmriedem_snow: dansmith: johnthetubaguy: tpeoples: so after thinking a bit more of https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1561357 I think it's problematic for unshelve16:46
openstackLaunchpad bug 1561357 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "VM deployed with availability-zone (force_hosts) cannot be live migrated to an untargeted host" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Sylvain Bauza (sylvain-bauza)16:46
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bauzasbut not for live-mig and evacuate because we can bypass the scheduler if providing a destination when migrating16:46
bauzashence me triaging to High and putting myself on it16:47
bauzasthe problematic situation being : you force an instance, you shelve it, you unshelve it16:47
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bauzasin that case, you'll only unshelve to the same host16:47
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bauzasmriedem_snow: dansmith: johnthetubaguy: tpeoples: I'm on a call atm, but I'll work on a bugfix we should backport to RC316:48
johnthetubaguybauzas: that almost feels correct, in some ways, but we should probably not do that till there is a way to "fix" it16:49
tpeoplesgood point bauzas. it's still problematic for us, at least, for live migrate due to the way we've been using force_hosts in the past - we never associated force_hosts meaning "pin this host here" but rather just cared about initial deploy. will your fix affect live migrate at all?16:49
bauzastpeoples: there is a workaround for live-mig16:49
bauzastpeoples: you just need to live-mig <instance> <host>16:49
bauzastpeoples: and it'll be totally fine16:50
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bauzasjohnthetubaguy: I don't get your point, you mean backporting to RC3 ? sure16:50
tpeoplesyeah, i get that there's a valid workaround. but it breaks previous behavior for us where untargeted migration would work after forcing a deploy16:50
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: I was talking about aiming the patch I'm going to write to land for RC316:50
cfriesen__when using ceph with librbd, is there a way to adjust the affinity of the threads used by librbd?16:51
johnthetubaguybauzas: I am just worrying my little head about things, ignore me really, just worried we might want the current "broken" behaviour longer term16:51
bauzastpeoples: like I said in the past, if you forced a destination, that's because you don't trust the scheduler, right?16:51
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: ah16:51
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: nah, be sure I'm going to axe it once I have time to do so :p16:51
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: I said multiple times I litterally hate the UX for forced_hosts16:51
tpeoplesnot necessarily. i may just want to deploy to a specific host for whatever reason right now, but later on i don't care where the VM goes (because i trust the scheduler)16:51
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bauzastpeoples: so you can do that other ways that prevent you to be stuck16:52
bauzastpeoples: like using a maintenance (or target) aggregate16:52
bauzastpeoples: where you put the host you want to target16:52
bauzastpeoples: and then either use a flavor/agg relational filter or an image/agg relational filter16:53
tpeoplesaggregate would only get me to deploy to a set of hosts, not necessarily a specific one. requiring someone to temporarily move their desired host into a specific aggregate is a bit overkill imo16:53
bauzastpeoples: I actually care about the reason you want as an admin to boot an instance to a specific host16:54
bauzastpeoples: because that can't be done for your regular users16:54
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bauzastpeoples: so that only works if you're an admin and you want to boot an instance, which is definitely something not cloudy16:54
johnthetubaguybauzas: yeah, it probably makes sense to create a new UX that makes more sense16:54
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tpeoplessure, it's not necessarily cloudy but it's behavior we have users using16:55
openstackgerritEd Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Improve the help text for the legacy API options  https://review.openstack.org/27326616:55
bauzastpeoples: you have *admin* users ?16:56
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tpeoplesyes, not all of them.16:57
bauzastpeoples: in that case, why are they not trusting the scheduler and ask for a specific target ?16:57
bauzastpeoples: that's the why I care16:57
bauzaswhy do they need to be admin-powered ?16:58
bauzasI mean, it requires knowing the topologyu16:58
johnthetubaguyI guess that have a specific placement required we don't currently model in our API?16:58
johnthetubaguys/that/they/16:58
bauzasso you prefer expose your topology and leave people hack the destination rather than leaving the scheduler doing its job16:58
bauzasand I need to understand why16:59
tpeoplesbauzas:  they might want to deploy to a specific host because they know other related VMs are on that host16:59
bauzaslike johnthetubaguy, I guess it can be due to a missing feature, but I'd like to know16:59
bauzastpeoples: so why not using server groups ?16:59
tpeoplesi acknowledge there's other ways to do that but this is how we went about implementation in the past16:59
bauzastpeoples: okay, so that's historical reasons, right?17:00
bauzastpeoples: not because you need something else17:00
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bauzastpeoples: and again, that means your user know the host the instance belongs to, which is an admin-only thing17:00
tpeoplessure. i'm not asking for something else, i just don't want something that was previously working for us that seemed valid to do to stop working17:00
bauzastpeoples: you could do this with regular users without exposing your topology17:01
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tpeoplesbauzas: yes, most of our users are admins. our deployments aren't used by *that* many people. typically an admin here and maybe a couple other regular users.17:02
bauzasokay, anyway, I'm going to do this the johnthetubaguy's way by persisting the force_host info but not passing it to the scheduler17:03
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bauzaswith a big fat comment leaking how I hate doing this :p17:04
tpeoplesbauzas: ok. for the record i don't disagree with what you're saying. it's just something we did in the past and the current code will break that feature (targeted deploy) we support so i'd like to figure out a way to ease the pain17:05
bauzastpeoples: sure :-)17:05
bauzastpeoples: I should be able to write that patch either tonight my time or tomorrow (EU based)17:06
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tpeoplesbauzas: sounds good, i'll keep an eye out for it. thanks for the discussion17:06
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openstackgerritPushkar Umaranikar proposed openstack/nova: Config options: Centralize netconf options  https://review.openstack.org/29431217:27
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melwittmriedem_snow: it looks like "Improve Developer Docs" and "Quotas" subteam got accidentally removed from https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-nova-priorities-tracking ?17:46
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dansmithmelwitt: were you around for the meeting?17:54
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melwittdansmith: no. I take it I should read the log now17:54
dansmithit was discussed that some things would be trimmed from that now and periodically to make sure they're getting regenerated by the subteams17:55
dansmithso I imagine that happened17:55
melwittah, okay17:55
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auggymelwitt: i also missed the meeting and am catching up :)18:04
auggybestcoast time zone ftw!18:04
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dansmithugh you people18:07
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melwitthaha :)18:08
nicWhat do you mean, "you people"?18:08
dansmith"you late-ass sleeping-in giving-west-coasters-a-bad-rap people"18:09
auggyhehe18:09
alaskimriedem_snow: I don't understand why this would cause tests to explode https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263925/25/nova/compute/api.py18:09
dansmithalaski: sometimes mriedem_snow seems to quote the line above the one he means to, so I assume he means the .create() call18:10
dansmithpresumably because of a lack of mock or something?18:10
alaskiahh, that makes a bit more sense18:11
openstackgerritGleb Stepanov proposed openstack/nova: Add console log offset  https://review.openstack.org/29247318:12
thomasemback18:12
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openstackgerritAndrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Create Instance from BuildRequest if not in a cell  https://review.openstack.org/26392718:16
openstackgerritAndrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Populate instance_mappings during boot  https://review.openstack.org/26392518:16
openstackgerritAndrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Include CellMapping in InstanceMapping object  https://review.openstack.org/28630918:16
dansmithalaski: good answer18:18
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alaski:)18:18
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mriedem_snowdansmith: alaski: wrong!18:20
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mriedemmelwitt: i'm pretty sure i left those in?18:21
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mriedemmelwitt: i'm going to say that someone else removed those18:22
mriedemi remember seeing them18:22
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mriedemalaski: clarified18:23
mriedemalaski: i meant, you're setting inst_mapping.cell_id18:23
mriedembut that's renamed in the dependent change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286309/10/nova/objects/instance_mapping.py@3518:23
mriedemso you're setting cell_id which doesn't really do anything18:24
auggymaybe there's someone out there who just really hates quotas and developer docs18:24
mriedemsorry, was clearing our driveway and then lunch18:24
openstackgerritSujitha proposed openstack/nova: Config options: Centralize compute options  https://review.openstack.org/29593818:24
alaskimriedem: gotcha, good catch.18:25
openstackgerritGleb Stepanov proposed openstack/nova: Improve line continuation  https://review.openstack.org/29037818:25
mriedemalaski: actually feng xi caught it earlier18:26
mriedemi was just reiterating18:26
alaskioops, missed that18:27
mriedemand now because the schools are closed, i have to work while little mermaid: ariel's beginning is blaring in the background18:27
dimsmriedem : awwww18:27
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alaskimriedem: I'm not sure that bug will actually cause a failure. The right think would be to set cell_mapping to None but in create() it will do the same thing as not setting it18:29
alaskiit's still wrong though18:29
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dansmithcould have said "some kid movie", but no, had to go all the way18:32
dansmithTitle: Subtitle18:32
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alaskidansmith: is there a reason objects don't blow up when setting an attribute that's not a defined field?18:33
dansmithalaski: because that's a totally legit thing to do18:33
dansmithand we do it on purpose in places18:33
dansmithfields is just the stuff you need version tracked and RPC'd18:33
dansmiththere are things I'd do differently about that if I had to do it all over again, but..18:34
mriedemdansmith: remember me having that exact same question a few saturdays ago?18:34
alaskiokay. I'm not advocating for it, just curious18:34
dansmithmriedem: yep18:34
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itlinuxhello all18:34
itlinuxI have a question on host-aggregates metadata18:35
itlinuxcan someone answer one of my questions thanks18:35
itlinuxhow can I retrieve the metadata from the instance where I see all the other metadata set in by cloud-init18:35
itlinuxthanks18:35
openstackgerritAnusha Unnam proposed openstack/nova: config options: Centralize xenapi options  https://review.openstack.org/29730118:36
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dansmithalaski: so you just removed the lazy load from that instance_mapping patch?18:40
alaskidansmith: yes. cell_mapping should always be explicitly set based on the db result18:40
dansmithokay18:40
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dansmithalaski: am I missing where you test the case where we load from DB and the linkage is None?18:43
* alaski looks18:44
alaskinope, did not test that path18:44
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dansmith\o/ I found something18:45
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dansmithalthough the bad news is it just prevents you from spending time +2ing my stuff :/18:45
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alaskimy plan worked18:47
dimshaha18:47
dansmithdamn you pesky kids!18:47
mriedemdansmith: so https://review.openstack.org/#/c/294313/10/nova/objects/flavor.py@31018:47
mriedem"No. The current code has to look up the flavor to get the id, then use the id on the project row. Since we have the object now, we can skip that extra step and just provide it the thing we need."18:48
dansmithmriedem: yeah, so I really hate that, because we eclipse the id builtin18:48
dansmithand my editor screams at me18:48
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dansmith(and rightly so)18:48
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mriedemhate 'id' as the name of the formal parameter?18:48
dansmithyeah18:48
mriedemso flavor_id is your way of saying flavor.id, vs flavorid18:49
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mriedemwhich is itself a field18:49
dansmithyeah18:49
mriedemgod18:49
dansmithI mean, not just my way,18:49
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dansmithit's sprinkled some through the existing code,18:49
dansmithalthough none of it is fully consistent of course18:49
dansmithall of my new code is consistent,18:49
mriedemi have to check the api db model on flavor project18:49
dansmithand we're killing the old stuff18:49
mriedemooooo https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/db/sqlalchemy/api_models.py#L15418:50
mriedemding!18:50
dansmithright, that's why I'm doing it,18:50
dansmithbecause it's the column on the related objects18:50
dansmiththat refers to flavor.id, not flavorid18:50
dansmither, flavor.id not flavor.flavorid18:50
mriedemyeah, just answered my own question in there18:51
mriedemwould be nice to have a note about that, but not worth reving if the rest is ok18:51
dansmithokay18:52
mriedemalso, can we return project from _flavor_add_project?18:52
dansmithmriedem: we can but we don't use it, so why?18:52
dansmithactually we can't18:52
dansmithwell, I mean we can, but we shouldn't18:52
dansmithbecause it's out of the db session at that point,18:52
dansmithwhich means if we touch anything that needs to talk to the db again, we'll explode18:53
mriedemwell, can we remove the return in the _flavor_add_project staticmethod?18:53
mriedemand _flavor_del_project18:53
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dansmithyou disagree with my proxy comment?18:54
dansmithI wasn't sure what side you were taking with your "me too"18:54
mriedem'me too' as in one of those crazy people18:56
mriedemthat don't like it18:56
mriedemsure, it's a prox18:56
mriedem*proxy18:56
dansmithI don't get that line of thinking at all18:56
mriedembut if the thing you're calling isn't going to return anything, it's confusing, imo, to have a return from the other method18:57
dansmithit's not a proxy unless it passes everything in and returns everything out18:57
mriedemglorp, ok so it's a black box to you18:57
mriedemi'm thinking of it as a white box18:57
mriedemi don't care all that much18:57
dansmithall of our db_api calls are clean proxies, AFAICT18:58
mriedemstill need to review tests, have to handle this whiny dog first18:58
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dansmithalaski: where do you stand on this style issue? (answer only required if you agree with me)18:59
alaskidansmith: writing tests and don't have context, which style issue?19:00
dansmithalaski: just say "of course dansmith is right" and you can go back to work19:00
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pmacharyaHi, I was trying to upgrade nova db from Juno to Liberty release. the nova-manage db sync fails saying there are unmigrated flavor records and tells to run nova-manage db migrate_flavor_data. But I cannot find that option. Can someone point me to what am I missing?19:01
alaskidansmith: heh. you're always right Dan19:01
* dansmith frames that19:01
mriedempmacharya: see the release notes for liberty19:01
mriedemthere is a nova-manage command you have to run before you can upgrade your db to liberty19:01
dansmithand IIRC, we had a bug in what we told you to run in that error message, which should be fixed at this point19:01
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mriedemalso, upgrading from juno to liberty in one shot, kudos on the giant balls19:02
dansmithoh, right19:02
dansmithpmacharya: you will have to use kilo code to do that migration19:02
dansmiththat's why it's missing19:02
dansmithhttp://www.danplanet.com/blog/2015/06/26/upgrading-nova-to-kilo-with-minimal-downtime/19:02
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melwittdansmith: I agree with returning for a proxy call because the called function may be changed to return something and the proxy should continue to work19:03
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alaskidansmith: mriedem since python doesn't distinguish between 'return None' and not returning I don't see an issue with returning there19:04
* dansmith passes melwitt the twenty under the table19:04
pmacharyaAh ok. I'll try that out. thanks!19:04
* dansmith passes another twenty to alaski 19:04
mriedemyou can all go straight to hell19:04
dansmithlol19:04
alaskisometimes it's nice to not return just to indicate that the caller shouldn't expect it, but meh19:05
melwittthis sort of thing became apparent to me when I wrote a decorator and initially didn't return the wrapped function result because the first case I worked on didn't return anything19:05
dansmithyeah, it's really confusing to me,19:05
dansmithwhen you're modifying the bottom one and the top isn't getting the result19:05
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dansmithand an hour later you realize the indirection layer you largely ignore isn't returning your result19:05
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dansmithhappened to me one with db_api being an oddball method that didn't return19:05
melwittand then I put the decorator on something else and boom19:05
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dansmithoh19:06
openstackgerritPushkar Umaranikar proposed openstack/nova: Config options: Centralize consoleauth options  https://review.openstack.org/29311819:06
dansmithmriedem: I worked "knee deep in the hoopla" into a conversation the other day.. thought you would be proud19:07
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doffmThis has happened to me also. 30 minutes wasted by a non returning wrapper. Gnughhh.19:07
dansmithyou weren't around to enjoy though19:07
mriedemdansmith: that's pretty good19:07
dansmithdoffm: I'm out of twenties, sorry19:07
mriedemseems we have another bug because the libvirt driver ignores the user-requested device name on volume attach https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/156124619:08
openstackLaunchpad bug 1561246 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "user cannot choose disk bus when attaching volume to instance" [Medium,Confirmed]19:08
dansmithmriedem: that's never worked, and we fixed it this time19:08
dansmithnot a regression, they're just mad because now it's for real19:08
mriedemdansmith: care to comment in the bug?19:08
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mriedemmark won't fix or invalid if you want19:08
dansmithoh, hmm19:09
dansmiththis is about disk bus19:09
dansmithnot just the name not being honored19:09
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mriedemyeah19:11
mriedemclarkb had a bug that infra hit b/c of this too because of something with config drive19:11
dansmithso19:11
mriedemthe volume attachment says it's at a given mountpoint but that's actually the config drive mount19:11
dansmithI'm sure this was not intended in the original patch19:11
dansmiththe device name has never been honored and is just a source of confusion people19:11
dansmith*for people19:12
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dansmithbut if it was using that to determine the disk bus somewhere deep, then that's not cool19:12
dansmiththe problem is, we'd take the parameter and return failure if they specify an already used one, even though it isn't actually used that way in the guest19:12
dansmithso we'd have vda and vdc in the guest, they'd use vdb thinking that was right, and we'd return failure for no reason19:13
dansmiththe hack in the patch is probably okay, but we should probably have one of the originators look19:14
artomThe valid uuid thing from https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1557378, are we going to start enforcing that for *all* fake uuids in tests, or just the ones that end up in objects' fields?19:14
openstackLaunchpad bug 1557378 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "tox gives invalid uuid warnings in unit test" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Srushti Gadadare (srushti-gadadare)19:14
dansmithmriedem: you want me to put a patch up with that in it so it's ready for discussion?19:18
mriedemdansmith: sure19:18
mriedemartom: at least object uuid fields19:18
mriedemgiven it emits a warning19:18
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dansmithmriedem: actually, re-reading this I think I'm remembering some discussion19:21
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artommriedem, gotcha19:22
dansmithmriedem: I think we choose the appropriate device type based on, like he says, the image metadata19:22
dansmithmriedem: which seems okay to me as the default attachment type19:22
artomIs it worth it to be consistent and insist future new tests use real uuids, regardless of whether there's a FutureWarning or not?19:22
dansmithif you're booting instances from ide based images you probably already hate performance19:22
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mriedemartom: real uuids in new tests are probably good, but i wouldn't -1 for it19:23
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mriedemartom: especially since it's easy with the uuidsentinel module19:24
openstackgerritAndrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Create Instance from BuildRequest if not in a cell  https://review.openstack.org/26392719:24
openstackgerritAndrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Populate instance_mappings during boot  https://review.openstack.org/26392519:24
openstackgerritAndrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Include CellMapping in InstanceMapping object  https://review.openstack.org/28630919:24
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artommriedem, thanks, that sounds very reasonnable.19:25
alaskijohnthetubaguy: another one for you to remove the -2 from https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263927/1419:26
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mriedemdansmith: alaski: melwitt: doffm: +2 on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/294313/19:33
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dansmithwoot19:34
alaskiwill look as soon as I finish raining on a parade19:34
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dansmithoh snap19:34
dansmith"will look as soon as I finish ruining someone's day"19:35
* dansmith hopes it's not one of his days19:35
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alaskinope. maybe drizzling is a better description19:36
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mriedemdansmith: does this require a rebase? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/294710/19:40
alaskibauzas: not sure if you saw https://review.openstack.org/#/c/294283/. It's not released yet though19:40
mriedemall i can think of now is alaski drizzling on someone's something19:40
bauzasalaski: oh nice19:41
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doffmdansmith: What is the issue with static methods and context manager decorators?19:43
mriedembauzas: so did we ever come to some agreement on https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1561357 ?19:43
openstackLaunchpad bug 1561357 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "VM deployed with availability-zone (force_hosts) cannot be live migrated to an untargeted host" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Sylvain Bauza (sylvain-bauza)19:43
doffmI will have to pull all my static methods out alsol.19:43
doffm*also19:43
mriedemdoffm: see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/294283/ for the oslo.db context manager thing19:43
bauzasmriedem: yeah, I'm working on a patch19:43
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mriedemdoffm: the stub_out thing is a bug with fixtures19:43
mriedemor i thought it was, alaski reported the issue i thought19:44
alaskiyeah, there's a stub_out issue with staticmethods and py34 https://github.com/testing-cabal/fixtures/pull/2319:44
alaskithere's an issue with py27 as well but we don't hit it19:45
alaskiwell, we might need to update for the fix I added. I should look into that19:45
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dansmithmriedem: why do you think it does?19:47
dansmithmriedem: jenkins just blessed it19:47
mriedemdansmith: hmm, might have been an older patchset19:48
bauzasmriedem: FWIW https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1561357/comments/119:48
openstackLaunchpad bug 1561357 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "VM deployed with availability-zone (force_hosts) cannot be live migrated to an untargeted host" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Sylvain Bauza (sylvain-bauza)19:48
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openstackgerritSujitha proposed openstack/nova: Config options: Centralize console options  https://review.openstack.org/29426119:53
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mriedemdansmith: easy backport to liberty that has a +2 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/295478/20:00
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dansmithmriedem: cool, got it20:01
alaskidansmith: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/294313/11/nova/objects/flavor.py :(20:01
dansmithalaski: sadface is not appropriate for actual problems :)20:02
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dansmithalaski: if you had asked me not to return from my proxy methods I'd try to shame you out of doing it20:02
dansmith:)20:02
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alaskiheh20:03
dansmither wait20:03
dansmithoh, projects20:03
dansmithokay I guess I'm not positive that you're right there, but I'm going to assume you are20:04
alaskiI'm not 100% sure, but fairly certain since this is what I do in InstanceMapping and get a None cell_mapping when joined this way20:04
dansmithokay20:05
dansmithbetter safe anyway20:05
dansmithalaski: while I fix, you wanna check the others real quick to see if there are other cases?20:05
alaskithe rest of this patch looked fine to me20:05
mriedemalaski: i'm assuming jaypipes is away for a good reason?20:06
mriedemwas waiting for him to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296305/20:06
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alaskimriedem: I believe so. He was in a webinar earlier and had to run for something20:07
mriedemalright20:08
mriedemi think rc3 is next week anyway20:08
mriedembut that's marked for rc20:08
dansmithalaski: so I think the best way to test this is to do it in the functional tests later, like the rest of the db methods20:09
dansmithare you cool with that?20:09
dansmithotherwise I have to mock out sqla or write to the DB, which the unit tests basically don't do20:10
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alaskiyeah, that's fine with me20:10
dansmithokay20:11
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dansmithalaski: I'm also wondering.. we have lots of flavors with no projects, right?20:13
dansmithwhy haven't we hit this in the other test?20:13
dansmithtests20:13
alaskiI know you didn't add this, but the exceptions on deleting things not in the db are starting to bug me20:13
alaskidansmith: we should20:13
alaskiI don't actually know20:13
dansmithhmm20:15
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alaskilooking at the flavor create path it doesn't seem possible to populate projects, it can only be done later. so it should be empty for flavors in devstack20:19
dansmithwell, and the default flavors are created in the first migration and we clearly don't have projects available there20:20
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alaskiI wonder if nothing is exercising this path20:21
openstackgerritMark Doffman proposed openstack/nova: Make Aggregate metadata functions work with API db  https://review.openstack.org/29735020:21
alaskifunctionally20:22
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doffmOk, i'm done. Will stop this now and go work on backlog.20:23
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dansmithalaski: I just noticed that something I did broke the functional tests at some point20:27
dansmithand I didn't notice20:27
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dansmithOH20:29
dansmithI fell into my own trap20:30
dansmithlol20:30
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alaskihmm, no jenkins results past the third patch in the series20:31
dansmithyeah it's confused20:32
dansmithalaski: so I just tested and I get [] in db['projects']20:32
dansmithif not projects are in the db20:32
alaskihmm, interesting. I need to go double check my patch then20:32
dansmithalaski: http://pastebin.com/0a3iHnFd20:33
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dansmithgives me20:34
dansmithProjects are: []20:34
dansmithand a pass on the test20:34
alaskicool. then I'm +2 on it20:34
dansmithwoot20:35
dansmithI'll leave the test in there20:35
alaskiare you pushing a new rev?20:36
dansmithalaski: if you will +A that I'll push just a change to the create patch which has that test isuse20:36
alaskidone20:38
lifelessalaski: hi, dunno if you saw my review on fixtures20:40
alaskilifeless: I did, thanks. that was a good catch, and I updated the patch to address it20:40
lifelessalaski: excellent. I'll look at it first thing tuesday (next working day)20:41
alaskilifeless: thanks20:41
dansmithyes20:44
dansmithoops20:44
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openstackgerritAndrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Create Instance from BuildRequest if not in a cell  https://review.openstack.org/26392720:46
openstackgerritAndrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Populate instance_mappings during boot  https://review.openstack.org/26392520:46
openstackgerritAndrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Include CellMapping in InstanceMapping object  https://review.openstack.org/28630920:46
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Further hack up the nova.tests.unit.db.fakes module of horribleness  https://review.openstack.org/29610620:47
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Objectify test_flavors and test_flavors_extra_specs  https://review.openstack.org/29610520:47
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Make flavor extra_specs operations work against the API DB  https://review.openstack.org/29471020:47
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Block flavor creation until main database is empty  https://review.openstack.org/29531020:47
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Add flavor migration routine  https://review.openstack.org/29477120:47
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Make Flavor create() and destroy() work against API DB  https://review.openstack.org/29475820:47
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openstackgerritAndrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Create Instance from BuildRequest if not in a cell  https://review.openstack.org/26392720:49
openstackgerritAndrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Populate instance_mappings during boot  https://review.openstack.org/26392520:49
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dansmithmriedem: were you good on that create-instance-mapping patch other than the bad field usage?20:55
mriedemhaven't been back to that series yet, trying to check https://review.openstack.org/#/c/284095/ before someone approves it20:55
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mriedemhmm, is there anything that shows up the security groups applied to a server? nova show isn't showing me that21:10
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dansmithyeah21:12
dansmithnova secgroup-list21:12
dansmithor list-secgroups21:12
dansmithone lists the security groups, one shows it on a server21:12
dansmithmriedem: ^21:13
melwittmriedem: nova show should show it if policy allows you access to the security groups extension21:13
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mriedemah list-secgroup21:13
mriedemmelwitt: it's not in the server view details21:13
dansmithI see it on my machine21:13
dansmithin nova show21:13
dansmith| security_groups                      | default, permissive21:13
melwittmriedem: yeah, at least on my version I don't see it as a normal user, I do see it as admin21:13
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mriedemhmm, i am admin21:14
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mriedemi'm able to list all tenants instances, so i know i'm admin, and created this network21:14
mriedemdansmith: that's server create or server show?21:15
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fawadkhaliqfolks, quick question on Nova cells. when scheduling instance creation, I see that user can specify hint with target_cell filter to launch instance on a particular cell. Is this an admin only or even tenants can choose to do that? Also, is there a way to limit a particular tenant to only be able to launch Nova instance on a particular cell or a group of cells rather than all?21:16
dansmithmriedem: show21:17
mriedemhmmmm wtf21:17
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mriedemdansmith: oh i think i see21:18
mriedemdansmith: you're using nova-network right?21:18
dansmithyep21:18
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dansmithbecause this machine has to actually work21:18
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mriedemyeah, ok, it's different if it's a GET vs POST and if it's nova-net vs neutron21:18
mriedemyay for usability!21:18
mriedemhttps://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/openstack/compute/security_groups.py#L452-L47521:19
mriedemif it's a GET, it doesn't add it21:19
mriedemif it's a POST, it defaults to adding the 'default' security group21:19
melwitthm, so far this looks like it's only in the legacy_v2 api? https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/openstack/compute/legacy_v2/contrib/security_groups.py#L453-L45721:19
mriedemeven if it's not in there21:19
mriedemmelwitt: nope21:19
melwittoh, sorry I just saw your link21:20
mriedemkabam! http://paste.openstack.org/show/491809/21:20
melwittwell, so the behavior was changed. I wonder if that was intentional21:20
mriedemmelwitt: between v2 and v2.1?21:22
melwittI have known there's a problem with the response for a POST, it always shows "default" no matter what reality is. there was discussion about it on a review where someone was trying to fix the "assuming default security group for neutron" thing21:22
mriedemmelwitt: yeah https://review.openstack.org/#/c/173204/21:22
melwittmriedem: yeah, v2 is definitely adding the security groups for a GET21:22
melwittmriedem: that's the one21:23
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mriedemok, it's coming up again here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/284095/21:26
mriedemjust reiterated my -121:26
melwittfawadkhaliq: target_cell filter is controlled by policy21:28
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melwittfawadkhaliq: for example https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/etc/nova/policy.json#L621:29
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dansmithmelwitt: the context thing is fine,21:32
dansmithbecause we've got to have the context already before we call create21:32
dansmithI'll comment21:32
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melwittfawadkhaliq: I don't think there's a way to limit tenants to a particular cell or group of cells. alaski, do you know? ^21:32
fawadkhaliqmelwitt: thanks, policy.json makes sense.21:33
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fawadkhaliqmelwitt: yes, tenant to cell is the second part I was thinking about. thanks for the response.21:33
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melwittdansmith: hm, okay.21:35
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melwittdansmith: I meant as a standalone private function, I thought it would be using the passed context?21:37
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dansmithmelwitt: you mean it *could* be misused?21:38
fawadkhaliqmelwitt: btw, do you know if Horizon allows the target cell hint option similar to region and availability_zones or target cell is only available via the CLI?21:38
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melwittdansmith: not quite thinking about misuse, but thinking about if it makes sense what it's doing, on its own21:40
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dansmithdamn, I can't find any good homer simpson pouting memes21:50
melwittokay. I trust you. I was just not making assumptions, ignorance is bliss I guess :P21:50
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dansmithno, there's nothing to trust here, just opinion :)21:51
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openstackgerritSujitha proposed openstack/nova: config options: Centralize upgrade_levels section  https://review.openstack.org/29738121:57
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dansmithmelwitt: are you good on that other than that issue? I'm updating for him now22:00
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openstackgerritSujitha proposed openstack/nova: config options: Centralize upgrade_levels section  https://review.openstack.org/29738122:02
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dansmithheh, this is failing unit tests anyway22:03
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Include CellMapping in InstanceMapping object  https://review.openstack.org/28630922:05
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openstackgerritSylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Stop providing force_hosts to the scheduler for move ops  https://review.openstack.org/29738722:13
bauzasdansmith: mriedem: alaski: ^22:13
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bauzasit's a RC2 regression fix22:13
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alaskimelwitt: there is no upstream way that I'm aware of to limit tenants to particular cells22:14
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alaskifawadkhaliq: ^22:15
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fawadkhaliqalaski: I see.22:16
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fawadkhaliqalaski: is this something being considered btw as a useful addition? or exist outside upstreamed version?22:16
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alaskiI know that it's been useful to other deployers, who have written their own way to do it. But I don't think it was ever published publicly22:17
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alaskiand I no longer have access to it22:17
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fawadkhaliqalaski: yeah, I see something like CERN did with custom scheduler to map tenants to cells.22:18
fawadkhaliqalaski: thanks for the information. its helpful.22:18
cburgessmriedem Oh wow thats a fun bug. Operationally our mon IP's never change so we have never hit this but wow... good bug.22:19
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alaskifawadkhaliq: right. in cellsv2 you could write a cell scheduler filter to do it. in cellsv2 you could probably write a scheduler filter to do it22:20
alaskibah, sub first cellsv2 with cellsv122:20
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fawadkhaliqalaski: really, could you please point me to how that can be done, I would like to try that. That seems reasonable.22:24
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alaskifawadkhaliq: you would add something like https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/cells/filters/image_properties.py but just pull the tenant info from request_spec and then filter out the cells it shouldn't land in22:26
alaskiyou'll have to hardcode the mapping or add a lookup to some datasource22:27
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alaskiI've seen it done with a config file that's loaded in22:27
alaskiand you'll need to add the filter to the config at https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/conf/cells.py#L51222:28
fawadkhaliqalaski: perfect, that looks very cool. The filter can be seeded by a config file, which maps tenants to cells.22:28
fawadkhaliqalaski: seems like as soon as I add and register a filter, it will be picked by Nova and I should be good to go.22:29
alaskiyep22:29
fawadkhaliqalaski: thanks, this is very helpful. I will hack a bit.22:29
alaskinp22:29
alaskimelwitt: are you good with the patch after dansmith fixed it up. if not I can clean that method up further22:31
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cburgessmriedem Wow actually this is worse then I thought. THis patch is wrong and this is really a cinder problem.22:32
openstackgerritAndrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Populate instance_mappings during boot  https://review.openstack.org/26392522:33
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openstackgerritAndrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Populate instance_mappings during boot  https://review.openstack.org/26392522:34
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dansmithalaski: sorry I orphaned your other patches22:34
melwittalaski: yes, going back to it now22:34
alaskidansmith: no worries, thanks for fixing it. I fixed the assertNone on the next patch as well but I'll hold off on further patches until these have more review22:36
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openstackgerritAnusha Unnam proposed openstack/nova: config options: Centralize xenapi options  https://review.openstack.org/29730122:48
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cburgessmriedem Oh and he breaks iscsi with this patch...22:51
tpeoplesbauzas: thanks for working on that. i tested out live migration, working fine... force_hosts is not wiped from the DB.22:53
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dansmithalaski: functional tests are happy on top of that set now: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/294758/1523:07
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aunnam_Hi., trying to run test coverage report using tox -e cover, but it is not generating covhtml folder. Any suggestions?23:08
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aNupoiscHi guys. Is there a way to see what files affect n-api or n-sch service? I want to make changes to few files but don't know what service they affect. Can anybody help me23:14
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mriedemcburgess: nice23:35
mriedemaNupoisc: the services are started from the nova/cmd/* files23:36
mriedemaNupoisc: if you have an example it would be more helpful23:37
cburgessmriedem I provided feedback on the review. Durgen is dead on about what we need to do though.23:37
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mriedemalaski: saw your comments in tbachman's vmware driver patch23:40
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mriedemalaski: welcome to the wonderful world of unique vif keys per each neutron plugin driver23:40
mriedemit's awesome23:40
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aNupoisclike I want to make changes to nova/api/openstack/compute/servers.py but don't know whether that will affect n-api service or n-sch service23:43
aNupoiscmriedem: like I want to make changes to nova/api/openstack/compute/servers.py but don't know whether that will affect n-api service or n-sch service23:43
mriedemaNupoisc: n-api23:44
aNupoiscmriedem: thnx for letting me know about nova/cmd23:44
mriedemthe rest api stuff is under nova/api/23:44
mriedemscheduler stuff is under nova/scheduler23:44
aNupoiscOkay great. Is this mentioned in some script or its just like that? I mean is it done during start_nova_api that gets called from stack.sh on devstackfunction23:48
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aNupoiscmriedem: Okay great. Is this mentioned in some script or its just like that? I mean is it done during start_nova_api that gets called from stack.sh on devstack23:49
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mriedemaNupoisc: the n-api service is started from start_nova_api in devstack yes23:57
mriedemhttp://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/architecture.html might help23:57

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