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| openstackgerrit | Tracy Jones proposed openstack/nova: config options: centralize section "guestfs" https://review.openstack.org/248963 | 00:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Tracy Jones proposed openstack/nova: config options: centralize section "wsgi" https://review.openstack.org/252687 | 00:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | wanghao proposed openstack/nova: Fix invalid Image&block device mapping combination https://review.openstack.org/171984 | 01:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Augustina Ragwitz proposed openstack/nova: DNM: Making project_id optional in v2.1 urls https://review.openstack.org/233076 | 01:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Expose quiesce/unquiesce API https://review.openstack.org/248989 | 01:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Satoru Moriya proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add support for booting bare metals from Cinder volume https://review.openstack.org/211101 | 01:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Expose quiesce/unquiesce API https://review.openstack.org/248989 | 01:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova-specs: Fix path of jsonschema definitions https://review.openstack.org/252709 | 02:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | huan proposed openstack/nova: XenAPI: Support neutron security group https://review.openstack.org/251271 | 02:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Wen Zhi Yu proposed openstack/nova: Clean up network resources when reschedule fails https://review.openstack.org/243477 | 02:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Hua proposed openstack/nova: xenapi: Support bare VHD image https://review.openstack.org/249627 | 03:08 |
| openstackgerrit | FelixLi proposed openstack/nova: Change the format of some inconsistent docstring https://review.openstack.org/251648 | 03:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eli Qiao proposed openstack/nova: Remove Useless element in migrate_server shcema https://review.openstack.org/252729 | 03:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alex Xu proposed openstack/nova: docs: update services description for concept guide https://review.openstack.org/248454 | 05:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/252197 | 06:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | sonu proposed openstack/nova: Replaces xrange() with six.moves.range() to provide py3 compatibility https://review.openstack.org/205307 | 06:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sudipta Biswas proposed openstack/nova: Allow monitor plugins to set own metric object https://review.openstack.org/252800 | 07:40 |
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| paul-carlton1 | johnthetubaguy, Can we progress https://review.openstack.org/#/c/228828/ and oomichi did a patchset https://review.openstack.org/#/c/252689/1 | 07:52 |
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| paul-carlton1 | Also, I have determined that we can easily address your concern about setting the outcome to abort I'll discuss the details of this with andrearosa who will be implementing this spec. | 07:54 |
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| paul-carlton1 | alternatively I can update the spec to address oomichi's issue and the aborted outcome but I'm concerned this will inhibit it from getting merged today? | 07:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | LisaLi proposed openstack/nova: Attach/detach encryptors during swap_volume https://review.openstack.org/252809 | 08:05 |
| openstackgerrit | LisaLi proposed openstack/nova: Attach/detach encryptors during swap_volume https://review.openstack.org/252809 | 08:07 |
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| oomichi | paul-carlton1: nice to merge my patch into your original :) but my concern is that it will remove +2 on the original | 08:09 |
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| oomichi | paul-carlton1: my point is not critical. enough to apply it when the implementation | 08:10 |
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| gmann | oomichi: alex_xu johnthetubaguy sdague : API ref fix patches - https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/api-site+branch:master+topic:fix-compute-api-ref,n,z | 08:24 |
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| gmann | i will keep posting with topic "fix-compute-api-ref" | 08:24 |
| oomichi | gmann: nice work, I also have one api-site patch. and put it on the above branch ;) | 08:25 |
| gmann | oomichi: cool. | 08:25 |
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| gmann | yea we can put all api-site updates with common topic - easy to review and track | 08:26 |
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| oomichi | gmann: it is nice to manage api doc thing :) | 08:26 |
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| gmann | alex_xu: I updated etherpad with topic. | 08:27 |
| gmann | oomichi: yea like concept guide updates | 08:28 |
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| * andrearosa needs an espresso first, than he can start to think to live-migration specs | 08:28 | |
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| alex_xu | gmann: thanks! | 08:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ryan Moore proposed openstack/nova: config options: centralize section: "rdp" https://review.openstack.org/252389 | 08:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | gongysh proposed openstack/nova: Fix the duplicate nics for VMs (trial) https://review.openstack.org/252824 | 08:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Hyper-V: removes *Utils modules and unit tests https://review.openstack.org/215917 | 08:44 |
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| * oomichi gmann and oomichi are not contributing to nova itself, but they are working for nova actually on different projects(tempest, api-site, project-config, etc) | 08:46 | |
| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Converting nova.virt.hyperv to py3 https://review.openstack.org/232554 | 08:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Replaces __builtin__ with six.moves.builtins https://review.openstack.org/238029 | 08:46 |
| openstackgerrit | lalit dagre proposed openstack/nova: Flavor object which support both DB with active migration https://review.openstack.org/213041 | 08:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Enables py3 unit tests for libvirt.host module https://review.openstack.org/238134 | 08:47 |
| openstackgerrit | lalit dagre proposed openstack/nova: Creates flavor* tables in API database https://review.openstack.org/201606 | 08:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: HyperV: Add serial console proxy https://review.openstack.org/184038 | 08:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: HyperV: Add serial console handler class https://review.openstack.org/184039 | 08:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: HyperV: Add SerialConsoleOps class https://review.openstack.org/184040 | 08:53 |
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| jichen | gmann: hi, I have a few patches for the API ref fix patches, how to add topic ? in the commit message? | 08:56 |
| gmann | jichen: not in commit msg in topic | 08:57 |
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| gmann | jichen: you can do Topic | 08:57 |
| gmann | fix-compute-api-ref | 08:57 |
| jichen | gmann: ok, let me change the Topic directly, thanks | 08:58 |
| gmann | jichen: from gerrit only without affecting previous reviews | 08:58 |
| gmann | jichen: np!. Thanks | 08:58 |
| jichen | gmann: yes, found it and thanks :) | 08:58 |
| bauzas | good morning Nova | 08:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova: Add swap volume notifications https://review.openstack.org/250283 | 09:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sudipta Biswas proposed openstack/nova: Allow monitor plugins to set own metric object https://review.openstack.org/252800 | 09:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Markus Zoeller (markus_z) proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Add better help text for config options (rescue) https://review.openstack.org/251987 | 09:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Markus Zoeller (markus_z) proposed openstack/nova: config options: centralize libvirt options https://review.openstack.org/250907 | 09:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Markus Zoeller (markus_z) proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Add better help text for config options (virt_type et al) https://review.openstack.org/252832 | 09:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Check 'destination_type' instead of 'source_type' in _check_and_transform_bdm https://review.openstack.org/252836 | 09:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Murray proposed openstack/nova-specs: Detach and attach boot volumes https://review.openstack.org/221732 | 09:42 |
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| PaulMurray | Hello world | 09:43 |
| mdbooth | PaulMurray: Are you writing an IRC client in a new lanuage? | 09:44 |
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| bauzas | lanuage ? :p | 09:48 |
| mdbooth | :P | 09:49 |
| PaulMurray | mdbooth, tell me about this new lanuage | 09:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Timofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova: Handle SetAdminPasswdNotSupported raised by libvirt driver https://review.openstack.org/252850 | 09:51 |
| bauzas | I've just been told that we can find our relnotes here http://docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/nova/ | 09:51 |
| mdbooth | IRC is supposed to be a typo-safe zone :) | 09:51 |
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| mdbooth | It's immediate, it's raw, it's badly spelled | 09:51 |
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| PaulMurray | mdbooth, are type-safe zones important to you | 09:52 |
| mdbooth | lol | 09:52 |
| PaulMurray | mdbooth, tell me more about this badly spelled | 09:52 |
| mdbooth | Who's replaced PaulMurray with a bot? | 09:53 |
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| PaulMurray | mdbooth, are bot's important to you ? | 09:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Add hypervisor, aggregates, migration description https://review.openstack.org/250737 | 10:01 |
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| markus_z | bauzas: hooray to reno! I really like it. | 10:04 |
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| bauzas | markus_z: FYI I'm reviewing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245891/12 | 10:05 |
| bauzas | markus_z: by reading the spec, it was agreed to remove the explicit opt imports from the modules, right? | 10:05 |
| bauzas | markus_z: and instead, just access the global object by pretending everything is correctly loaded | 10:06 |
| bauzas | correct? | 10:06 |
| mdbooth | markus_z: <cynic>You're in phase 2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hype_cycle </cynic> | 10:06 |
| mdbooth | ;) | 10:06 |
| bauzas | markus_z: speaking of http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/mitaka/approved/centralize-config-options.html#technical-view | 10:07 |
| markus_z | bauzas: It wasn't discussed in the spec. I did discover it during the implementation. | 10:07 |
| bauzas | markus_z: well, you mention in bullet #3 that opt imports can be done in the new conf modules | 10:08 |
| markus_z | mdbooth: as long as it brings me to the plateau at the end :) | 10:08 |
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| markus_z | bauzas: yeah, I have a different understanding now after I looked into "oslo.config" | 10:08 |
| bauzas | markus_z: I actually previously liked the pattern where we explicitely mentioned the imports in the code that was using them | 10:09 |
| bauzas | markus_z: so I'm a bit torn you see with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245891/12 | 10:09 |
| markus_z | bauzas: It's good that you challenge that, let me look for the piece of code which changed my mind. | 10:09 |
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| bauzas | markus_z: eg. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245891/12/nova/cmd/scheduler.py,cm | 10:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrey Kurilin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: [microversions] Add support for 2.8 https://review.openstack.org/251484 | 10:10 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: thoughts on the explicit opt imports ? | 10:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrey Kurilin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: [microversions] Increase max version to 2.9 https://review.openstack.org/251485 | 10:10 |
| markus_z | bauzas: That's what "import_opt" does under the cover https://github.com/openstack/oslo.config/blob/master/oslo_config/cfg.py#L2177 | 10:10 |
| markus_z | bauzas: Which is already done by using "import nova.conf" at the beginning of a module which wants to use config options. | 10:11 |
| bauzas | markus_z: right, I'm not saying that doesn't work | 10:13 |
| paul-carlton2 | danpb, can you review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/228828 pls, there is a plus 2 from mikal and I have determined that we can easily address johnthetubaguy 's concern about setting the outcome to abort I'll discuss the details of this with andrearosa who will be implementing this spec. | 10:13 |
| bauzas | markus_z: it's just that we assume that this global object will magically know all of our opts and that we can directly address those | 10:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: doc: add server status to concept.rst https://review.openstack.org/251383 | 10:13 |
| bauzas | markus_z: to be clear, if that has been clearly agreed, I'm fine | 10:14 |
| markus_z | bauzas: Don't we already treat CONF like the global object from hell? | 10:14 |
| bauzas | markus_z: yup, but you can be sure that if someone was previously accessing the attributes without properly opt_import the flag, he was getting my veto :) | 10:15 |
| markus_z | bauzas: Yes, and that was absolutely necessary because it wasn't predictable in which order the modules get loaded to ensure that their config options are available in CONF. | 10:16 |
| bauzas | markus_z: yeah I know | 10:17 |
| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Prevent build more than one default ephemeral disk https://review.openstack.org/213762 | 10:17 |
| bauzas | okay, I'm probably overthinking then | 10:17 |
| markus_z | bauzas: Now we will have a simple order "driver.py -> nova.conf.py -> nova.conf.libvirt.py" | 10:17 |
| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Check host status before scheduler https://review.openstack.org/216759 | 10:17 |
| markus_z | bauzas: no cyclic dependencies | 10:17 |
| bauzas | markus_z: tbc, I'm wondering whether we should do something like opt_import('myflag', 'nova.conf') | 10:18 |
| markus_z | bauzas: no import of other modules just because I want to ensure that their config options get loaded | 10:18 |
| bauzas | markus_z: okay, fair enough | 10:18 |
| markus_z | bauzas: The only benefit I would see in it is the explicitness. | 10:18 |
| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/nova: Objects: add limits, reservations and shares to ImageMetaProps object https://review.openstack.org/188321 | 10:19 |
| bauzas | markus_z: that's exactly my point | 10:19 |
| bauzas | markus_z: it's just code readiness | 10:19 |
| markus_z | bauzas: oh, ok, I didn't get it until now :) | 10:19 |
| bauzas | markus_z: but that pattern complicates things, I'm bit clearer now | 10:20 |
| bauzas | markus_z: I feel we can just assume that the bullet #3 in the spec covers that, and that we no longer need from a technical PoV to do imports | 10:20 |
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| bauzas | markus_z: okay, re-reviewing the spec with my amended mindset | 10:20 |
| markus_z | bauzas: I did drop "import_opt" because I was under the impression that this was only used because of a technical reason. I wasn't aware of the help it provides for readability. | 10:21 |
| markus_z | bauzas: I can update the spec if it helps? | 10:21 |
| bauzas | markus_z: yeah, I agree - that's maybe me who likes fancy code | 10:21 |
| bauzas | markus_z: no, I feel it's okay | 10:21 |
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| markus_z | bauzas: to be honest, I still have feverish dreams to replace the CONF with dependency injection. | 10:22 |
| bauzas | heh | 10:22 |
| bauzas | markus_z: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/oslo.config/faq.html#why-does-oslo-config-have-a-conf-object-global-objects-suck | 10:23 |
| markus_z | bauzas: I spent a few days for that some weeks ago but didn't find a generic pattern to use. | 10:23 |
| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/nova: VMware: support limits via image meta data https://review.openstack.org/180942 | 10:23 |
| markus_z | bauzas: Yeah, I've read that :) | 10:23 |
| bauzas | so, I feel it's like awakening the beast :) | 10:23 |
| rpodolyaka | garyk1: hey! are you around? could you please take a look at these patches to stable/liberty - https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/liberty+topic:fix_status_reporting,n,z ? | 10:24 |
| markus_z | bauzas: Hm, I don't understand that comment? | 10:24 |
| markus_z | bauzas: Do you have the impression it makes it worse? | 10:24 |
| bauzas | markus_z: no, it's just that it could go into an endless discussion :) | 10:25 |
| markus_z | it's an easy target for bikesheding if you mean that | 10:25 |
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| markus_z | bauzas: Just to be clear, the real benefit of all the changes is for example this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247181/8 This is an awesome description of what the nvoa-scheduler is capable of, described as a black-box | 10:27 |
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| bauzas | markus_z: yeah I know, I'm reading that too | 10:30 |
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| garyk1 | rpodolyaka: done. looks good | 10:39 |
| rpodolyaka | garyk1: thanks a lot! | 10:40 |
| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/nova: VMware: add release notes for the limits https://review.openstack.org/252870 | 10:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/nova: VMware: add release notes for the limits https://review.openstack.org/252870 | 10:43 |
| markus_z | bauzas: I tried to summarize my arguments in the scheduler opts review. I'm heading for lunch now and after that I have a meeting. Thanks for reviewing! | 10:45 |
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| claudiub|2 | Hello. If anyone could press that +W button on a few patches, it would be great. :) Those patches have 2 x +2's already: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/215917/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232554/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/238029/ | 10:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Catch FixedIpNotFoundForAddress when create server https://review.openstack.org/252879 | 10:59 |
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| bauzas | claudiub|2: looking at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/215917/ | 11:04 |
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| claudiub|2 | bauzas: cool, thanks. :) | 11:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: objects: added 'os_secure_boot' property to ImageMetaProps object https://review.openstack.org/237593 | 11:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Hyper-V: Adds Hyper-V UEFI Secure Boot https://review.openstack.org/209581 | 11:11 |
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| bauzas | claudiub|2: do you know if the Hyper-V CI is running ? | 11:14 |
| bauzas | claudiub|2: it's not seen as failing here https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ThirdPartySystems | 11:15 |
| bauzas | claudiub|2: and I'd love some positive feedback from it before +Wing | 11:15 |
| claudiub|2 | bauzas: it already voted +1 on the patch you mentioned, at 12:05 AM | 11:16 |
| claudiub|2 | PM, sorry | 11:16 |
| bauzas | oh snap | 11:16 |
| bauzas | I'm blind sorrty | 11:16 |
| claudiub|2 | no problem. :) | 11:17 |
| bauzas | claudiub|2: okay, lemme know when Jenkins will return and I'll +W https://review.openstack.org/#/c/215917/20 | 11:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Petrut Lucian proposed openstack/nova: Hyper-V: Implement nova rescue https://review.openstack.org/127159 | 11:17 |
| claudiub|2 | bauzas: sure, thanks. :) | 11:17 |
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| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: markus_z: sorry, late online today, explicit opt imports, part of me wants every import to be explicit, but I know it doesn't work like that right now, I think with the new stuff you technically don't need any opt imports | 11:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova: Enable all extension for Flavor API sample tests https://review.openstack.org/243396 | 11:35 |
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| markus_z | johnthetubaguy: From my current very limited experience I never looked at the beginning of a module to see which opts it imports. I was always digging in single methods for specific use cases. Having an overview at module level didn't yet help me with my current work. | 11:41 |
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| markus_z | johnthetubaguy: My opinion about import_opt is not so strong to block the one way or the other. | 11:41 |
| johnthetubaguy | markus_z: yeah, I am also not feeling strong enough to block one way or the other | 11:42 |
| johnthetubaguy | markus_z: in small modules, I like the idea of seeing three or four opts imported at the top, so I know whats in there. But that only works if every option is imported. | 11:43 |
| johnthetubaguy | markus_z: but I have a feelings thats just my way of saying I don't like global variables | 11:43 |
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| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: whats your worry around these bits? | 11:43 |
| markus_z | FWIW: I pushed a change for the libvirt config options and I assume danpb will express similar thoughts. | 11:45 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: it was really just a code readiness thought | 11:45 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: because I liked to have explicit imports | 11:45 |
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| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: I am certainly leaning that way | 11:46 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: the main problem I have is that the spec is not explaining that | 11:46 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: so I left some comments in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245891/12 | 11:47 |
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| danpb | johnthetubaguy: the entire approach of nova to config options is already global variables | 11:47 |
| danpb | this makes it marginally worse as we are not seeing which vars are imported | 11:48 |
| johnthetubaguy | danpb: yup | 11:48 |
| bauzas | danpb: that's the problem I said above | 11:48 |
| danpb | which also means our hacking check that prevents virt drivers importing each others options is now lost | 11:48 |
| bauzas | (11:13:37) bauzas: markus_z: it's just that we assume that this global object will magically know all of our opts and that we can directly address those | 11:48 |
| danpb | it would be nice to be more explicit so that given nova/conf/libvirt.py we see an explicit import of nova.conf.libvirt | 11:49 |
| bauzas | danpb: so it seems we agree because I was thinking of an explicit import_opt('myopt', 'nova.conf.mymodule') | 11:50 |
| danpb | i guess the problem is probably that oslo.config isn't scoped in that way | 11:50 |
| bauzas | correct | 11:51 |
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| bauzas | markus_z: given the above, maybe we should discuss that on an amended spec? | 11:52 |
| markus_z | danpb: The hacking check can be re-introduced when the config options are grouped in a sensible way. | 11:52 |
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| markus_z | danpb: CONF.libvirt.opt1 vs. CONF.XEN.opt1 | 11:52 |
| danpb | johnthetubaguy: are we supposed to have stopped +A'ing specs now ? | 11:52 |
| danpb | markus_z: they're already grouped in that way - at least for libvirt | 11:53 |
| johnthetubaguy | danpb: no, the deadline is the end of today | 11:53 |
| danpb | johnthetubaguy: ah ok | 11:53 |
| markus_z | I have to leave for a meeting now and will be back in 90min. Maybe we can then summarize a conclusion. | 11:55 |
| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/nova: VMware: add release notes for the limits https://review.openstack.org/252870 | 11:56 |
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| mdbooth | Does anybody know if resize/cold migration works for rbd-backed instances? | 11:59 |
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| gcb | mdbooth, it works | 12:01 |
| mdbooth | gcb: Are you familiar with the code? I'm just wondering how. | 12:01 |
| * andrearosa is very happy that the spec-freeze is today: no more specs review from tomorrow! | 12:01 | |
| johnthetubaguy | mdbooth: I think that should be tested in the gate | 12:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Ryan Moore proposed openstack/nova: config options: centralize section: "rdp" https://review.openstack.org/252389 | 12:01 |
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| johnthetubaguy | andrearosa: you took the words out my head. my brain is mush right now! | 12:02 |
| mdbooth | gcb johnthetubaguy: I was pretty sure it worked, but I'm looking at the code and I don't see how it could possibly work :) | 12:02 |
| andrearosa | :) | 12:02 |
| mdbooth | So I'm assuming there's some extremely ugly branch somewhere I haven't spotted, yet | 12:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | mdbooth: there is that ceph storage sub class thing somewhere, did you find that? | 12:03 |
| mdbooth | Yeah. I'm looking at migrate_disk_and_power_off, and I don't see where it handles non-file storage | 12:04 |
| mdbooth | Except lvm, which it explicitly barfs on | 12:04 |
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| gcb | let me check | 12:05 |
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| PaulMurray | gcb what are you using with rbd ? is it ceph ? | 12:08 |
| gcb | PaulMurray ,yes | 12:09 |
| mdbooth | PaulMurray: rbd == rados block device | 12:09 |
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| mdbooth | Is there anything other than ceph? | 12:09 |
| PaulMurray | gcb have you don live migration with ceph backed images and volumes ? | 12:09 |
| PaulMurray | mdbooth, don't know - probably showing my ignorance | 12:10 |
| gcb | yes, tested in icehouse | 12:10 |
| gcb | the current code changes :-), maybe need a little time to find out the code path | 12:11 |
| mdbooth | gcb: It's a nightmare, isn't it? | 12:12 |
| gcb | as I know , resize/migrate will call something in https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/virt/libvirt/imagebackend.py#L714 | 12:12 |
| mdbooth | gcb: That was my expectation. I just haven't yet found where it would do it. | 12:13 |
| gcb | there is problem when revert-resize while resize, the size of root disk of instance's can't be same with original size | 12:14 |
| gcb | you can pdb, and get the call stack :-) | 12:14 |
| mdbooth | That would require me to configure a multi-node ceph devstack :) | 12:14 |
| * mdbooth is just looking at the code, trying to decide how to split a big change into lots of small changes. | 12:15 | |
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| mdbooth | gcb: However, I suspect I may end up having to :/ | 12:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Remove HTTPRequestEntityTooLarge usage in test https://review.openstack.org/153830 | 12:16 |
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| mdbooth | I must be missing something here... is there no shared storage detection for cold migration? | 12:19 |
| * mdbooth is starting to suspect this might not work after all | 12:21 | |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add ips-add-mac-and-type.rst https://review.openstack.org/247496 | 12:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: docs: add test strategy and feature classification https://review.openstack.org/215664 | 12:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: api-guide: add a doc on users https://review.openstack.org/249812 | 12:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | xiexs proposed openstack/nova-specs: Support live migration with macvtap SR-IOV https://review.openstack.org/251387 | 12:50 |
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| xiexs | hi, all, could anybody help me review a specs? Thanks in advance. | 12:58 |
| xiexs | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/251387/ | 12:58 |
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| markus_z | danpb: bauzas: johnthetubaguy: regarding the options stuff. How do you like to proceed to make some progress? 1) An update on the spec and discussing there? 2) going further with the approach I'm doing right now 3) rewind everything and focus on other things? | 13:09 |
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| gcb | mdbooth: look at https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py#L6894 -> https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py#L2922 | 13:10 |
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| gcb | mdbooth: rbd is the only one imagebackend with SUPPORTS_CLONE = True | 13:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | markus_z: I still think what you are doing is totally worth while, is there a way to give each module a new conf object, so we need to import them all at the top, and see how that looks? | 13:12 |
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| bauzas | markus_z: johnthetubaguy: we can discuss that on today's meeting | 13:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | markus_z: maybe we just do a hacking check for that, evenutally | 13:13 |
| bauzas | unfortunately, that's an US one | 13:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: yeah | 13:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | I know I can't be there | 13:13 |
| bauzas | so, maybe we could just ask for the moment to add the import_opt() and if we agree later on, just remove if agreed? | 13:14 |
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| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: I think do the easy thing for now (no imports) | 13:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | once we find a way to enforce the import, we can add them | 13:15 |
| bauzas | fair | 13:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | I think we need to import them all, or none, otherwise its just horribly confusing really | 13:15 |
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| bauzas | yup | 13:15 |
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| johnthetubaguy | markus_z: I think thats my way for saying, just keep with plan A for now, see what importing all the options would look like | 13:16 |
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| markus_z | johnthetubaguy: at the end of this etherpad is an example of what I understand what you said https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/config-options | 13:16 |
| bauzas | markus_z: johnthetubaguy: that said, have you seen my comment in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245891/12/nova/tests/unit/conf_fixture.py,cm | 13:16 |
| bauzas | ? | 13:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | markus_z: yeah | 13:17 |
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| johnthetubaguy | so I should go and get my lunch, back in a bit | 13:17 |
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| klkumar | Hi All, was trying to add a oslo config option in quotas.py but it fails with 'NoSuchOptError: no such option:' do i need to change any oslo files like cfg.py for adding an extra option? | 13:18 |
| markus_z | klkumar: How did you add the option? Can you show some code? | 13:19 |
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| klkumar | added this to quota_opts list -> cfg.IntOpt('quota_cores::super-az', | 13:20 |
| klkumar | default=20, | 13:20 |
| klkumar | help='Number of instance cores allowed per project'), | 13:20 |
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| markus_z | klkumar: Hmm... looks sane | 13:21 |
| markus_z | klkumar: ah, no, wait | 13:22 |
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| markus_z | klkumar: The two colons in the name of the option is the issue. You need a valid python variable name | 13:23 |
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| markus_z | klkumar: like "quota_cores_super_az" <= only underscores, no colon, no hypen | 13:23 |
| klkumar | markus_z: Thanks a lot will give a try, actually i was new to nova development :-) | 13:24 |
| markus_z | klkumar: The reason is that you will later the configured value like this: CONF.quota_cores_super_az | 13:24 |
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| markus_z | *access | 13:33 |
| markus_z | that word was missing... | 13:33 |
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| johnthetubaguy | markus_z: are there are set of patches folks are -1-ing for the import opt stuff? | 13:40 |
| markus_z | johnthetubaguy: bauzas is still favouring it in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245891/12 | 13:41 |
| bauzas | markus_z: to be clear, I wonder what could be done when we're mixing both the new model and the old one | 13:42 |
| markus_z | bauzas: The mix is temporary and not soo confusing imo. | 13:42 |
| bauzas | markus_z: and your comment means that it's an implicit import from the main test module | 13:43 |
| markus_z | bauzas: It means that the test shouldn't be aware of config options because the functional code is its testing surface | 13:44 |
| bauzas | markus_z: while I'm okay with not providing import_opt() when just importing nova.conf module, I'm pretty against not explaining why suddently it should work | 13:44 |
| markus_z | bauzas: In my head the connection was done with: "CONF = nova.conf.CONF" at the beginning of a functional module. | 13:45 |
| bauzas | markus_z: your comment says that it works because we're importing a module which also imports nova.conf right? | 13:45 |
| markus_z | bauzas: yepp | 13:45 |
| bauzas | markus_z: okay, so what happens if we suddently remove the relationship in the functional module? | 13:45 |
| markus_z | bauzas: Let me flip it around. The test fixture has to know which options it has to import so that other unit tests in other modules will work? | 13:45 |
| bauzas | markus_z: I agree it's not a good thing | 13:47 |
| bauzas | markus_z: but it hides the import dependency | 13:47 |
| bauzas | I mean, the change hides* | 13:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Hyper-V: Adds Hyper-V UEFI Secure Boot https://review.openstack.org/209581 | 13:48 |
| * markus_z wishes he had a whiteboard | 13:48 | |
| johnthetubaguy | markus_z: bauzas: if we move the test fixture to get CONF from the new location, would that help this debate? | 13:49 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: it would certainly | 13:49 |
| bauzas | that's an even better approach than the one I provided | 13:49 |
| markus_z | johnthetubaguy: yeah, it would be better, agreed | 13:50 |
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| johnthetubaguy | OK, lets try that for size, then I think that looks good | 13:50 |
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| alexschm | danpb: Hi, do you know of any other core who would review the native AIO spec now that you approved it? | 13:52 |
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| alexschm | danpb: and by the way, thank you very much for organizing the performance measurements! | 13:52 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: just thinking out loud here, but we could have a hacking check that looks for "import nova.conf" and when present ensures all CONF options are explicitly imported at the top of the file, or something like that? Maybe take one of the existing things, and see what it looks like with explicit imports | 13:53 |
| johnthetubaguy | alexschm: about to go through all the specs with a +2 on them at the moment, thats in my list | 13:53 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: well, I'd love to get other feedback whether explicit imports are good or not | 13:54 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: maybe it's just me riding a bicycle with some paint | 13:54 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: I think trying it will help the discussion, it might look terrible | 13:54 |
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| danpb | alexschm: johnthetubaguy and sdague have been doing most spec review so you might try pointing them to it :-) | 13:54 |
| alexschm | johnthetubaguy: okay great, let me know if there are any questions | 13:55 |
| markus_z | bauzas: the scheduler and libvirt have the most options. They should be representative I guess. | 13:55 |
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| sdague | alexschm: url? | 13:55 |
| bauzas | markus_z: I'm really sorry if you felt that I was nitpicking, that's totally not my mind | 13:56 |
| bauzas | markus_z: I'm just trying to make sure that the patterns we agree are good :) | 13:56 |
| alexschm | sdague: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232514/ | 13:56 |
| bauzas | markus_z: since it wasn't said in the spec | 13:56 |
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| markus_z | bauzas: nah, no worries. I appreciate the time and effort you're spending on that. Ignoring it would be worse. | 13:57 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sdague: I think the live-migrate ones got merged, but it would be great if you could review those to make sure they capture everything now | 13:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Raildo Mascena de Sousa Filho proposed openstack/nova: Nested Quota Driver https://review.openstack.org/242626 | 13:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Raildo Mascena de Sousa Filho proposed openstack/nova: Nested Quota: Set default values to subproject https://review.openstack.org/242514 | 13:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Raildo Mascena de Sousa Filho proposed openstack/nova: Nested Quota Driver: Get Hierarchy info https://review.openstack.org/242568 | 13:59 |
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| markus_z | bauzas: It's just that doing a simple thing "providing more description for ops" is causing more effort in discussion than I expected. | 14:01 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy: ok, I'll circle around shortly | 14:01 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sdague: awesome, thank you | 14:02 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: markus_z: okay, I can try to spin a quick check for the explicit imports, lemme try | 14:03 |
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| johnthetubaguy | alexschm: I like how your spec is basically "lets just do the right thing to get better performance". I like that kind of feature :) | 14:08 |
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| alexschm | johnthetubaguy: hehe, yeah me too, thanks for your review! | 14:09 |
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| alexschm | johnthetubaguy: the comments now include a lot of interesting discussion and measurements which I would like to include in the spec | 14:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | alexschm: feel free to just amend the merged spec, if you want to add those in | 14:12 |
| alexschm | johnthetubaguy: can I include these changes via an additional review once the spec is merged? | 14:12 |
| alexschm | ok | 14:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Timofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova: DO NOT MERGE Ceph for live-migration job https://review.openstack.org/252283 | 14:13 |
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| garyk1 | claudiub|2: can you please vote on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/250363/ | 14:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Add xenapi support for XenapiLiveMigrateData objects https://review.openstack.org/247853 | 14:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Make libvirt driver return migrate data objects for source and dest checks https://review.openstack.org/247720 | 14:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Actually pass the migration data object down to the virt drivers https://review.openstack.org/248211 | 14:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Allow sending the migrate data objects over the wire https://review.openstack.org/251588 | 14:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Add transitional support for migrate data objects to compute manager https://review.openstack.org/247719 | 14:43 |
| dansmith | danpb: I think these are ready to go ^ | 14:43 |
| dansmith | they've been passing the live migrate tests in jenkins for a while.. I just rebased them and tagged them into the blueprint | 14:44 |
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| dansmith | ready for *review* I should say | 14:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Ryan Moore proposed openstack/nova: config options: centralize section: "rdp" https://review.openstack.org/252389 | 14:45 |
| danpb | dansmith: ok | 14:45 |
| sdague | who is the ceph person that's supposed to be keeping up on things like this - http://status.openstack.org//elastic-recheck/#1464259 ? | 14:47 |
| dansmith | sdague: jbernard | 14:47 |
| ndipanov | sdague, I thought we removed ec2 | 14:48 |
| sdague | ndipanov: it's deprecated | 14:48 |
| ndipanov | maybe this is the sign | 14:48 |
| ndipanov | we;ve been looking for :) | 14:48 |
| sdague | well, the bug is a misnomer, it's any volume snapshots | 14:48 |
| sdague | ec2 or native | 14:48 |
| sdague | I'll update the bug title | 14:49 |
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| dansmith | sdague: looks like jbernard commented on the bug in june.. you're thinking this is spiking again or something? | 14:50 |
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| sdague | dansmith: it's #3 in ER | 14:50 |
| sdague | 16 fails in 24 hrs / 33 fails in 10 days | 14:51 |
| dansmith | and the top fail for our stuff I guess, yeah | 14:51 |
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| jbernard | looking now | 14:52 |
| sdague | yeh, it's good to make sure the top 5 fails are getting looked into regularly, otherwise we can hit a tipping point and wedge everything | 14:52 |
| tojuvone | dansmith: Would you have a time to look at this: https://review.openstack.org/241562 | 14:53 |
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| dansmith | tojuvone: in a sec | 14:54 |
| tojuvone | dansmith: Thanks, no hurry. | 14:56 |
| mdbooth | is gerrit down for you? | 14:57 |
| kashyap | http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/https://review.openstack.org/ | 14:57 |
| mdbooth | Ah... it's back again | 14:57 |
| mdbooth | Must have been a blip | 14:57 |
| PaulMurray | kashyap, seems to be back | 14:57 |
| * mdbooth was getting 503s for a bit there | 14:57 | |
| PaulMurray | was down for a bit | 14:57 |
| kashyap | Yeah, seems back up already. | 14:58 |
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| sdague | they were restarting it because it was slow | 15:00 |
| sdague | hmmm... since when did we start bubbling up internal ids - http://logs.openstack.org/54/232554/17/check/gate-grenade-dsvm-multinode/dcd1e94/logs/old/screen-n-api.txt.gz?level=INFO#_2015-12-03_09_47_51_258 | 15:01 |
| mriedem | looks like an oversight | 15:02 |
| mriedem | probably look for InstanceNotFound in the libvirt driver | 15:02 |
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| sdague | yeh https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/89dd62aabf62175724e0e05765c9759cd9160263/nova/virt/libvirt/host.py#L654 | 15:03 |
| sdague | that's wrong, right? | 15:03 |
| sdague | because that exception is always going to bubble all the way back to the user | 15:04 |
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| mriedem | yeah that's a hack | 15:04 |
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| mriedem | instance_id != domain name | 15:04 |
| mriedem | should be using a different exception | 15:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Ryan Moore proposed openstack/nova: config options: centralize section: "rdp" https://review.openstack.org/252389 | 15:05 |
| sdague | ok, so we need a new exception there | 15:06 |
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| rqw | danpb: johnthetubaguy: mriedem: regarding the uefi boot spec, how do you like to proceed to make some progress? 1) 3rd CI is necessary? or community CI will cover uefi testing? or only log some warning? 2) due to the spec deadline, an update on the spec now is needed? or it still need more discussion about how to test and the spec should be pending? | 15:06 |
| mdbooth | Can anybody remind me how to make devstack use ceph? | 15:06 |
| mdbooth | Do I enable it as a service? | 15:07 |
| mriedem | mdbooth: grep for CEPH in devstack-gate | 15:07 |
| mriedem | there are flags | 15:07 |
| dansmith | mriedem: finally did this, if you want to hit it for me: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/objectify-live-migrate-data | 15:07 |
| PaulMurray | dansmith, those boot volume specs we discussed are ready to go if you have a moment | 15:07 |
| mriedem | dansmith: done | 15:08 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: thanks | 15:08 |
| dansmith | PaulMurray: okay, I'm in the middle of tojuvone's thing at the moment | 15:08 |
| mdbooth | mriedem: What's devstack-gate? | 15:08 |
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| PaulMurray | dansmith, sure - do you want links | 15:08 |
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| dansmith | PaulMurray: has ndipanov approved yet? probably best to get him lined up before me | 15:09 |
| PaulMurray | dansmith, yes, and danpb +2 as well | 15:09 |
| mriedem | mdbooth: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=github+devstack-gate | 15:09 |
| mdbooth | mriedem: Ah, it's a git repo | 15:09 |
| dansmith | dammit, okay, yes links :) | 15:09 |
| mdbooth | mriedem: Thanks, will look | 15:09 |
| PaulMurray | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/221732/ | 15:09 |
| PaulMurray | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/243096/ | 15:09 |
| PaulMurray | dansmith, ^^ | 15:09 |
| mriedem | mdbooth: wraps devstack for the gate system | 15:09 |
| mriedem | sets env flags, etc | 15:09 |
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| mriedem | the flags for devstack-gate are set in the jobs defined in the project-config repo | 15:10 |
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| mriedem | rqw: i won't be there today, but it should probably be an item on the nova meeting agenda | 15:11 |
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| ndipanov | PaulMurray, dansmith fwiw - I think those 2 specs are a good example of how specs can actually work well (although let's wait for the implementation :)) | 15:12 |
| mriedem | rqw: i'm not sure i expect a new uefi job to be setup in community infra, although it shouldn't be too hard and could be run on the experimental queue, i don't know if we want to dedicate check/gate resoureces to a uefi job | 15:12 |
| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/nova: VMware: cleanup ExtraSpecs https://review.openstack.org/252327 | 15:12 |
| mriedem | unless it could be worked into the existing dsvm tempest jobs somehow with a tempest flag | 15:12 |
| ndipanov | we figured out a better way to approach the problem because it was well described | 15:12 |
| mriedem | rqw: which would leave intel hosting a 3rd party CI, since this sounds very intel specific | 15:13 |
| mriedem | rqw: or we log a warning when it's used in the driver that it's not tested and therefore considered experimental | 15:13 |
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| rqw | mriedem: ok. I could not also be there that time. (: | 15:13 |
| mriedem | rqw: imo, logging the untested warning is the easiest short term answer until someone can look into the effort to get a test for this | 15:13 |
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| mriedem | i'd think it'd be possible to set a flag in devstack to install ovmf, create an image with the proper uefi metadata, and then configure tempest to use that (with a flag) for uefi testing (so boot an instance with that image) | 15:14 |
| mriedem | then it wouldn't have to be a separate job | 15:14 |
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| mriedem | but that's also a change to devstack and tempest which the QA people have to sign off on (so mtreinish and sdague) | 15:15 |
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| mriedem | that makes sense to me though if this is a thing we're going to list in the hypervisor support matrix | 15:15 |
| rqw | mriedem: if 3rd CI is necessary, my manager said that we can work on it. But currently only logging the untested warning should be the easiest way. | 15:15 |
| mriedem | rqw: i can post what i think the options are to the ML and add that to the nova meeting agenda | 15:16 |
| mriedem | then circle back next week | 15:16 |
| rqw | mriedem: thanks. | 15:16 |
| mriedem | sdague: you can drop the -2 on this i think https://review.openstack.org/#/c/240241/ | 15:18 |
| openstackgerrit | dane-fichter proposed openstack/nova: Functional test for ephemeral storage encryption https://review.openstack.org/240075 | 15:18 |
| mriedem | sdague: since we've approved the patch to drop py26 support from novaclient | 15:18 |
| sdague | done | 15:18 |
| mriedem | mordred: did you still plan on doing something with this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245200/ | 15:19 |
| mriedem | sdague: thanks | 15:19 |
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| mordred | mriedem: yes. I was waiting on apatch to land in keystoneauth and then get released. that happened yesterday, so I can respoin this patch later today | 15:19 |
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| mriedem | mordred: ok, so we want that in novaclient 3.0? | 15:20 |
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| sdague | mriedem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1522454 | 15:21 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1522454 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Nova is leaking libvirt internal ids on some Instance Not Found errors" [Undecided,New] | 15:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alexandre Levine proposed openstack/nova-specs: delete_on_termination modification spec https://review.openstack.org/234269 | 15:22 |
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| mriedem | doffm: good one for you to pick up https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1522454 | 15:22 |
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| mordred | mriedem: yes please - I promise I'll work real hard on it today | 15:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sergey Nikitin proposed openstack/nova-specs: Get set of instances by set of UUIDs https://review.openstack.org/239286 | 15:24 |
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| dansmith | PaulMurray: thanks, lgtm | 15:26 |
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| dansmith | PaulMurray: you will of course make the microversion bump required for each feature the same bump, yes? | 15:26 |
| mriedem | mordred: :) ok - we won't release novaclient 3.0 until next week anyway | 15:26 |
| mordred | mriedem: WOOT! | 15:26 |
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| claudiub|2 | sdague: hi. can you re-approve this? it already has your +2. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/238029/ | 15:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Yukinori Yagisawa proposed openstack/nova: Nova API v2.1 error to specify multiple different_hosts. https://review.openstack.org/253012 | 15:31 |
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| bauzas | markus_z: johnthetubaguy: meh, I'm working on an AST parser to provide the hacking check | 15:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: could we not reuse the check from the virt driver import, not enough info in there I guess? | 15:33 |
| mriedem | sdague: not great, but http://logstash.openstack.org/#dashboard/file/logstash.json?query=message:%5C%22HTTP%20exception%20thrown:%20Instance%20instance-%5C%22%20AND%20message:%5C%22could%20not%20be%20found.%5C%22%20AND%20tags:%5C%22screen-n-api.txt%5C%22 | 15:33 |
| PaulMurray | dansmith, thanks you - I can sort it that way | 15:33 |
| dansmith | PaulMurray: cool | 15:34 |
| PaulMurray | dansmith, BTW - that series of yours on migration objects down to hypervisors | 15:34 |
| PaulMurray | do you need eyes on it? | 15:34 |
| sdague | mriedem: it's trickier than that | 15:35 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: no, because it just verifies the filename vs. the import | 15:35 |
| sdague | if you look at what's returned there I think | 15:35 |
| dansmith | PaulMurray: it's about objectifying the data we pass between them before a live migration, but yes it needs scrutiny | 15:35 |
| dansmith | PaulMurray: it passes the jenkins multinode live migration tests for kvm, so I'm reasonably confident, but it definitely needs ewview | 15:36 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: here, I need to check that the import_opt line is present when looking at the opt call | 15:36 |
| dansmith | er, review | 15:36 |
| sdague | mriedem: actually, that's 125 fails in the last 24 hours | 15:36 |
| mriedem | sdague: hmm, at least from looking, it's a recent regression | 15:36 |
| mriedem | yeah | 15:36 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: yeah, needs more info I guess | 15:36 |
| sdague | ok, I'll add a query | 15:36 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: I could use the lines argument which provides a list of lines, but using an AST parset is better IMHO | 15:36 |
| markus_z | bauzas: The parameter "token" is the AST representation IIUC | 15:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Petrut Lucian proposed openstack/nova: HyperV: Add SerialConsoleOps class https://review.openstack.org/184040 | 15:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Petrut Lucian proposed openstack/nova: HyperV: Nova serial console access support https://review.openstack.org/145004 | 15:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Petrut Lucian proposed openstack/nova: HyperV: Add serial console handler class https://review.openstack.org/184039 | 15:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Petrut Lucian proposed openstack/nova: HyperV: Add serial console proxy https://review.openstack.org/184038 | 15:39 |
| bauzas | markus_z: sorry I don't understand you | 15:40 |
| mriedem | sdague: i actually see some hits going back to 11/26 | 15:40 |
| bauzas | markus_z: what do you mean by 'token' ? | 15:40 |
| mriedem | sdague: so just intermittent i guess | 15:40 |
| sdague | well, holidays | 15:41 |
| sdague | our load has been spikey | 15:41 |
| sdague | honestly, this could have been around for a while | 15:41 |
| markus_z | bauzas: IIUC you intent to use something like this: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/hacking/checks.py#L232 | 15:41 |
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| markus_z | bauzas: The parameter "token" will give you the AST | 15:41 |
| markus_z | bauzas: Which allows crazy awesome checks | 15:42 |
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| markus_z | bauzas: not sure if you already knew that and I'm just confusing you | 15:43 |
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| bauzas | markus_z: no, I was rather thinking of | 15:43 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: just a quick checkin, are you OK running the Nova meeting later? | 15:43 |
| bauzas | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/hacking/checks.py#L409 | 15:43 |
| bauzas | markus_z: ^ | 15:44 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: nope, i'm traveling today | 15:44 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: so alaski or dansmith or sdague | 15:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: Add service status notification https://review.openstack.org/245678 | 15:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: Add infra for versioned notifications https://review.openstack.org/247024 | 15:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: Adds json sample for the versioned notifications https://review.openstack.org/248167 | 15:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: Make emitting versioned notifications configurable https://review.openstack.org/247564 | 15:44 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: I've got an appointment that might make it hard for me to get back for the start, so probably better someone else | 15:44 |
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| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: if I'm here I can do it, but I won't really know until I'm here | 15:44 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: ah, cools, it would be great if alaski dansmith or sdague fancy it? agenda is updated, and the regular one: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova | 15:45 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy: yeh, I think I can do it. | 15:45 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: awesome, thank you | 15:45 |
| sdague | it's 21 UTC? | 15:46 |
| alaski | I'll be around and can serve as an understudy | 15:46 |
| dansmith | sdague: yes, 4pm EST | 15:46 |
| sdague | ok, yeh, that should be doable | 15:46 |
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| johnthetubaguy | awesome | 15:47 |
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| johnthetubaguy | its about 15mins after my band starts playing again after the tea break... grr | 15:48 |
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| mriedem | garyk: can we drop these? https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/kilo+topic:bp/vmware-nsxv-support,n,z | 15:49 |
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| mriedem | garyk: people that want them can still pull from the abandoned changes | 15:49 |
| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: verify cpu bw policy capability for host https://review.openstack.org/224726 | 15:49 |
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| mriedem | sahid: are you going to propose a blueprint for this series? https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:libvirt-clean2,n,z | 15:50 |
| mriedem | sahid: that's a lot of refactor w/o a blueprint tracking it | 15:50 |
| mriedem | rpodolyaka: how do you feel about writing up a reno change to nova stable/liberty for these bug fixes? https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/liberty+topic:fix_status_reporting,n,z | 15:51 |
| mriedem | rpodolyaka: since i think we should cut a point release for stable/liberty next week to include those regression fixes - and the reno change would point that out (under the bug fix section) | 15:51 |
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| mriedem | bauzas: ^ fyi | 15:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Timofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova: DO NOT MERGE Ceph for live-migration job https://review.openstack.org/252283 | 15:54 |
| * bauzas looking | 15:54 | |
| bauzas | mriedem: +1 | 15:54 |
| kashyap | Has anyone seen this kind of error frequently? http://logs.openstack.org/80/251980/1/check/gate-grenade-dsvm-multinode/5716e36/logs/syslog.txt.gz#_Dec__2_10_55_36 | 15:54 |
| kashyap | Dec 2 10:55:36 ubuntu iscsid: Login failed to authenticate with target iqn.2010-10.org.openstack:volume-6fb73a19-26f9-4c76-95e0-ccfa57489593 | 15:54 |
| kashyap | Dec 2 10:55:36 ubuntu iscsid: session 1 login rejected: Initiator failed authentication with target | 15:55 |
| bauzas | rpodolyaka: lemme know if you need help but you can sneak peek at http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/code-review.html#release-notes | 15:55 |
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| kashyap | That results in tempest-testvolumebootpattern failing | 15:56 |
| ildikov | johnthetubaguy: hi | 15:57 |
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| ildikov | johnthetubaguy: quick update on the multi attach spec | 15:57 |
| ildikov | johnthetubaguy: I discussed it with Cinder people yesterday, so it's now synced between the two projects | 15:57 |
| johnthetubaguy | ildikov: you must be monitoring my internet connection, just reading that at the moment :) | 15:57 |
| ildikov | johnthetubaguy: danpb also gave his +2 already | 15:57 |
| johnthetubaguy | ildikov: thanks for reaching out to the cinder folks, I see the +1s from them now :) | 15:58 |
| ildikov | johnthetubaguy: lol :), awesome, thanks! :) | 15:58 |
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| sahid | mriedem: if you guys want me to propose bp I will but actually there are nothing special behind this serie, just moving some portions of code, no feature added, no real improvment | 15:59 |
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| mriedem | sahid: there may not be new features, but we still generally track big refactor series with a blueprint | 16:00 |
| rpodolyaka | mriedem: ok, will do! | 16:00 |
| mriedem | and this isn't just a couple of changes | 16:00 |
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| ildikov | johnthetubaguy: yeah, luckly I found everyone there yesterday who had comment on the spec earlier | 16:00 |
| rpodolyaka | thanks bauzas! I'll give it a try first. want to see this new reno tool in action :) | 16:00 |
| ildikov | johnthetubaguy: so we agreed on a way forward | 16:00 |
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| mriedem | sahid: there has to be some kind of improvement else you wouldn't be doing it, | 16:01 |
| mriedem | even if it's just to make the code more maintainable, that's a feature for developers | 16:01 |
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| mriedem | sahid: i'm happy to approve a specless bp for the work | 16:01 |
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| ildikov | johnthetubaguy: thanks pretty much! :) | 16:02 |
| sahid | mriedem: ok so i will propose one | 16:02 |
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| mriedem | lxsli: looks like turbo-hipster doesn't have any orphaned bw_usage_cache entries in it's data set, which kind of sucks https://review.openstack.org/#/c/248780/ | 16:02 |
| mriedem | so we don't really have a good idea for how long that migration is going to take | 16:02 |
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| mriedem | maybe it doesn't matter, it would only impact rax anyway :) | 16:03 |
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| lxsli | mriedem: :| | 16:04 |
| alaski | we'll likely clean up our data before the migration anyways | 16:04 |
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| alaski | we try to test migration times and do what we can to minimize them | 16:05 |
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| dansmith | wait, I thought we didn't need to ever have them in the schema? | 16:05 |
| dansmith | only in the model | 16:05 |
| mriedem | this is a fkey | 16:05 |
| dansmith | right | 16:05 |
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| mriedem | we don't have to have a fkey | 16:06 |
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| lxsli | dansmith: although we don't NEED them in the schema, it's nice for when people write scripts against the DB | 16:06 |
| mriedem | we could drop bw_usage_cache when archiving/purging instances | 16:06 |
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| mriedem | it becomes another edge case in the archive/purge code | 16:07 |
| mriedem | which kind of sucks | 16:07 |
| lxsli | dansmith: zzzeek's position was that they should be present until profiling shows them individually unnecessary | 16:07 |
| dansmith | lxsli: right, but the consequence is that we have to take this penalty to add it because it's nice for people who write scripts | 16:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova: docs: using the correct format and real world example for fault message https://review.openstack.org/248463 | 16:07 |
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| dansmith | lxsli: yeah, I'm talking about the penalty to add now, not penalty to have at runtime | 16:07 |
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| zzzeek | dansmith: you dont want to write a script that deletes rows which are referred to elsewhere, without deleting those other rows | 16:08 |
| dansmith | mriedem: I guess archiving seems like mostly a bag of special cases, so I don't really care much | 16:08 |
| zzzeek | dansmith: now you have essentially a corrupt database | 16:08 |
| dansmith | zzzeek: yeah, I get that | 16:08 |
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| mriedem | the migration also only impacts xen users, since that's the only virt driver that supports the bw usage task, but that's not a great reason for just doing it either | 16:09 |
| dansmith | zzzeek: any idea what the penalty is here? if it's just long runtime that's not a huge deal, but if it locks things up for an hour then that is | 16:09 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: ah, right | 16:09 |
| mriedem | i don't know any large public clouds that use xen except rax | 16:09 |
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| zzzeek | dansmith: not sure what the specific "here" is but in general the performance penalty of FKs is extremely minimal and only noticeable in very high volume scenarios | 16:10 |
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| dansmith | zzzeek: I'm talking about the cost of applying this to a large database | 16:10 |
| dansmith | not the runtime cost | 16:10 |
| zzzeek | dansmith: can you show me what "this" is im scrolling up and not following this whole convo | 16:11 |
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| lxsli | zzzeek: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/248780/ | 16:11 |
| dansmith | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/248780/ | 16:11 |
| dansmith | the migration in there | 16:11 |
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| dansmith | can we nuke the cache before we run it if we notify the operator in the release notes? | 16:11 |
| dansmith | i.e. is it just a cache? | 16:11 |
| dansmith | alaski: ^ | 16:11 |
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| ndipanov | dansmith, we were working on adding a FK as well | 16:12 |
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| zzzeek | dansmith: in that specific case the cost will be zero b.c. you are turning off foreign key checks | 16:13 |
| dansmith | the pre-prune also seems like it might be big if it really selects all instance uuids, but hopefully it's smart somehow? | 16:13 |
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| dansmith | zzzeek: well, we have to turn them back on again.. | 16:13 |
| ndipanov | zzzeek, won't innodb re-index stuff ? | 16:13 |
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| zzzeek | ndipanov / dansmith : nope, see the note here: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.7/en/server-system-variables.html#sysvar_foreign_key_checks "Setting foreign_key_checks to 1 does not trigger a scan of the existing table data. Therefore, rows added to the table while foreign_key_checks = 0 will not be verified for consistency. " | 16:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Petrut Lucian proposed openstack/nova: Add Hyper-V storage QoS support https://review.openstack.org/175479 | 16:14 |
| dansmith | zzzeek: okay | 16:14 |
| zzzeek | ndipanov dansmith if it were *me*, I'd just leave it on. how big is this table | 16:14 |
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| dansmith | zzzeek: could be larger than instances I think | 16:14 |
| zzzeek | dansmith: 1000 rows, 100K rows, 10M rows... ? | 16:15 |
| dansmith | zzzeek: 1000 instances, 100k instances, ... | 16:15 |
| dansmith | including deleted | 16:15 |
| mriedem | we don't know how big it can be in the wild, alaski might be able to get some numbers | 16:15 |
| dansmith | right | 16:15 |
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| ndipanov | we never ever delete anything instances... | 16:15 |
| mriedem | the turbo-hipster data set didn't have any orphaned bw_usage_cache entries | 16:15 |
| mriedem | ndipanov: the orphans come from archiving instances (hard delete) | 16:15 |
| dansmith | zzzeek: if we leave it on, is it going to lock instances or the bw table? | 16:15 |
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| alaski | dansmith: it's not truly a cache. we only need data in there from the previous day I believe, but our billing team would not be happy if all the data disappeared | 16:16 |
| dansmith | mriedem: because those come from libvirt customers I bet | 16:16 |
| dansmith | alaski: okay | 16:16 |
| zzzeek | dansmith: innodb uses row locking so theoretically the table as a whole would not be "locked", but that's only theory. id have to read up on what current versions do | 16:16 |
| dansmith | zzzeek: okay | 16:17 |
| dansmith | zzzeek: so if we disable, apply, enable and then do another scan to make sure things are clean, that'd be better right? | 16:17 |
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| dansmith | zzzeek: I don't really care how long it takes, it just needs to not lock important things whilst doing so | 16:17 |
| zzzeek | dansmith: well it depends on how fearful you are of invalid data. if you scan after the fact, and you find crap, now what do you do | 16:17 |
| dansmith | zzzeek: delete it | 16:18 |
| dansmith | zzzeek: just like we do in the pre-scan | 16:18 |
| zzzeek | dansmith: if you are pre-scanning and deleting then that's the best option here | 16:18 |
| dansmith | yeah, okay | 16:18 |
| dansmith | lxsli: you cool with that? | 16:18 |
| dansmith | mriedem: ? | 16:18 |
| lxsli | so post-scan instead of pre-scan? or in addition? | 16:18 |
| dansmith | lxsli: both | 16:19 |
| zzzeek | dansmith: i dont really know what would happen if one turned off FK checks, then put invalid references in a table, then turned it back on, where it's documented as not scanning. guess you'd have just an ordinary wrong key in your table | 16:19 |
| lxsli | dansmith: sure I can do that | 16:19 |
| dansmith | zzzeek: yeah, I assumed that'd be the result | 16:19 |
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| dansmith | lxsli: you could even capture the latest updated_at stamp and only scan things equal or newer than that, I guess | 16:20 |
| dansmith | in the post | 16:20 |
| dansmith | I guess that's not super safe because of clock skew | 16:20 |
| mriedem | dansmith: i'm fine with it | 16:21 |
| sdague | dansmith: if you have significant clock skew in your cloud, you are toast for other reasons | 16:21 |
| sdague | like tokens | 16:21 |
| mriedem | mmm clock stew | 16:21 |
| dansmith | sdague: yeah, but a tiny clock skew would cause you to skip | 16:21 |
| dansmith | sdague: not sure what the impact of that subquery is, so not sure it's worth it | 16:22 |
| lxsli | dansmith: that sounds complicated | 16:22 |
| dansmith | lxsli: yeah, I'd just do the same post scan until we hear it's painful | 16:22 |
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| sdague | dansmith: you can always put a delta calculation into the date select | 16:23 |
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| dansmith | sdague: yeah, it's just complexity and if we don't know it's a particular point of pain, it's probably better to keep this simple | 16:24 |
| dansmith | sdague: also, the machine you run your pre-migrations from is not necessarily time-synced with the main cloud | 16:24 |
| dansmith | sdague: this is all to be applied before any actual code upgrades, so it's done from another machine | 16:24 |
| sdague | sure, but that shouldn't matter, if you do your query right the time calculation is in the db | 16:25 |
| sdague | the local machine is irrelevent | 16:25 |
| dansmith | heh, right, right | 16:25 |
| dansmith | anyway | 16:25 |
| dansmith | I think it's premature and we could adjust later if someone says it's painful | 16:25 |
| sdague | yeh, agreed | 16:26 |
| dansmith | it will only be xen people anyway, and, you know ... eff them | 16:26 |
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| alaski | yeah! ... oh, wait | 16:26 |
| dansmith | heh | 16:26 |
| PaulMurray | dansmith, ha ha.... | 16:26 |
| sdague | it will be incentive for them to get to kvm | 16:26 |
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| dansmith | good call | 16:26 |
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| lxsli | hmm, bots are dead | 16:27 |
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| rlrossit | mriedem: if I make a change in o.vo that I want to depend on in nova, can I just use Depends-On: and it will magically work? or doesn't that happen with libraries/things in requirements.txt? | 16:28 |
| alaski | clock skew messes up resizes as well since xen chokes on using VHDs from "the future" so we're very careful on that front | 16:28 |
| alaski | as I suspect most everyone is | 16:28 |
| markus_z | o.vo = oslo.versionedobjects ... maann, I was wondering for weeks what you folks talk about | 16:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova: hardware: stop using instance cell topology in CPU pinning logic https://review.openstack.org/229574 | 16:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Nikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova: Fix CPU pinning for odd number of CPUs w hyperthreading https://review.openstack.org/229575 | 16:30 |
| ndipanov | sfinucan, hey ^ might wanna rebase the rest of the branch | 16:30 |
| mriedem | rlrossit: the nova change has to depend on the global-requirements update change that includes the min version of the o.vo release that has your o.vo change | 16:30 |
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| rlrossit | oh my | 16:31 |
| rlrossit | that's rough | 16:31 |
| BobBall | alaski: Maybe the glance plugin should force a date on the VHDs downloaded? | 16:31 |
| sfinucan | ndipanov: Will do | 16:31 |
| sfinucan | Finishing up 'isolate' rework first | 16:31 |
| ndipanov | sfinucan, cool | 16:31 |
| bdrich | Hi, looking for some help. Trying to create multiple servers in automated neutron_lbaas test, but getting an error: neutron_lbaas.tests.tempest.lib.exceptions.BuildErrorException: Server 96a81252-27b9-4e75-9375-e3f4362359bd failed to build and is in ERROR status ..... u'message': u'No valid host was found. There are not enough hosts available.'} Only happens with multiple vms | 16:31 |
| rlrossit | well I guess that just means I need to bug dansmith a bunch to get that change in ;) | 16:31 |
| lxsli | dansmith mriedem: pushed a new version | 16:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Add xenapi support for XenapiLiveMigrateData objects https://review.openstack.org/247853 | 16:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Make libvirt driver return migrate data objects for source and dest checks https://review.openstack.org/247720 | 16:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Actually pass the migration data object down to the virt drivers https://review.openstack.org/248211 | 16:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Allow sending the migrate data objects over the wire https://review.openstack.org/251588 | 16:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Add transitional support for migrate data objects to compute manager https://review.openstack.org/247719 | 16:32 |
| alaski | BobBall: that would be a possibility. The failure is painful but it usually exposes a poorly configured host so in that sense it is good | 16:32 |
| dedery | mgoddard: ping | 16:32 |
| BobBall | Well personally I don't understand why Xen/XAPI/whatever checks for time travel... | 16:33 |
| mdbooth | devstack appears to disable firewalld explicitly. Any idea where it keeps its iptables config? I need to allow remote connections to.... well everything | 16:33 |
| BobBall | Seriously. If you can travel through time, then the ability to make a VHD is trivial in comparison | 16:33 |
| mgoddard | dedery: hi | 16:35 |
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| alaski | BobBall: it may be vhd-util doing it, I think it's a footer check that fails. But it's been a while so I don't quite recall. But fair point, if you have a VHD from the future why not run it and see what advances can be gleaned from it | 16:35 |
| PaulMurray | mdbooth, did you find what you needed for ceph in devstack? | 16:35 |
| mdbooth | PaulMurray: Yes, thanks. I have ceph devstack running. | 16:35 |
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| mdbooth | PaulMurray: Multi-node isn't working, though, because node2 can't talk to node1 | 16:36 |
| mdbooth | Trying to work out how to turn off all firewalling | 16:36 |
| PaulMurray | hm | 16:36 |
| mdbooth | Without breaking anything | 16:36 |
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| mdbooth | We really should use firewalld :( | 16:36 |
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| PaulMurray | I was going to try as well - what config did you use ? | 16:37 |
| mdbooth | ceph? | 16:37 |
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| PaulMurray | yes | 16:38 |
| mdbooth | I have an external ceph cluster, manually configured | 16:38 |
| PaulMurray | :) | 16:38 |
| PaulMurray | oh, right, so I'll get my own one then. | 16:38 |
| mdbooth | in local.conf I have REMOTE_CEPH=True | 16:38 |
| mdbooth | I have /etc/ceph/ceph.conf configured to point to my cluser | 16:39 |
| mdbooth | And a keyring in /etc/ceph for the cinder user | 16:39 |
| * PaulMurray thinks he has one kicking around somewhere | 16:39 | |
| sfinucan | bdrich: Read the error message - you don't have enough resources to run the test. If running yourself, try on a server with more RAM, CPU cores etc. | 16:40 |
| sfinucan | It might be possible to tune Tempest also. I'm not that familiar with Tempest though, so I can't say for sure | 16:40 |
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| mdbooth | firewalld may have its faults, but you can at least configure access to a single port without worrying about changing the entire firewall configuration | 16:42 |
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| mdbooth | I can't even write a script to poke an iptables rule into the right place, because I don't know what the index number will be at the time I execute it | 16:43 |
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| mdbooth | What's supposed to listen on port 5000? | 16:49 |
| * mdbooth guesses keystone, but just blows the whole installation away anyway | 16:50 | |
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| danpb | mdbooth: apache probably | 16:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Pushkar Umaranikar proposed openstack/nova: Modify VM's updated_at field on volume actions https://review.openstack.org/247176 | 16:50 |
| mdbooth | danpb: Ah, interesting | 16:50 |
| danpb | mdbooth: keystone uses an apache plugin to services its requests | 16:50 |
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| ndipanov | johnthetubaguy, if you've not gone mad by now - this one's been around for a while and is ready imho | 16:55 |
| ndipanov | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/139910/17 | 16:55 |
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| lxsli | mad? mr. squirrel says i'm quite fine, thank you | 17:01 |
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| PaulMurray | lxsli, I think you're losing it mate | 17:02 |
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| johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: lol, going mad was some time last week, sorry, I had planned to hit that one yesterday | 17:07 |
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| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: you've moved on to 'acceptance' ? | 17:08 |
| mdbooth | PaulMurray: I allegedly have multi-node ceph! Lets see if it works... | 17:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: heh | 17:09 |
| mriedem | jlk: fyi https://review.openstack.org/#/c/253082/ | 17:09 |
| mriedem | heard you need that | 17:09 |
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| mriedem | ndipanov: would be nice to see an ack from jaypipes on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/139910/ | 17:10 |
| mriedem | but he's not around | 17:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Hyper-V: Fixes disk overhead claim issue https://review.openstack.org/246307 | 17:12 |
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| ndipanov | mriedem, I am not that excited about that spec tbh | 17:14 |
| ndipanov | but the folks proposing it were very diligent | 17:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Hyper-V: Adds Hyper-V UEFI Secure Boot https://review.openstack.org/209581 | 17:15 |
| mriedem | ndipanov: i need to read through it again but i was not on board with the idea of new API changes for the port type | 17:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: I think this uses the regular API now right, which made me happy, its the resource claim bits that worry me now | 17:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | I think is better now, just re-reading | 17:17 |
| ndipanov | johnthetubaguy, what's worrying about that? | 17:17 |
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| ndipanov | (I think I made them put that in) | 17:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mark Doffman proposed openstack/nova: Make os-instance-action read deleted instances. https://review.openstack.org/253087 | 17:18 |
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| johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: I am glad you raised the issue, thats all good, I just was worried about it not being considered properly before, just re-reading | 17:21 |
| ndipanov | cool | 17:21 |
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| johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: yeah, I think I am happy now we have that max count extra spec, seems a good comprimise | 17:22 |
| ndipanov | fwiw - I think that this is not a critical feature at all and most people can work around it | 17:22 |
| ndipanov | but it's not bad as such I think | 17:22 |
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| johnthetubaguy | yeah, I think the folks that want hot plug will probably shuffle stuff around to make sense anyways (hmm, there is the live-migrate macvtap stuff somewhere...) | 17:22 |
| openstackgerrit | dane-fichter proposed openstack/nova: Functional test for ephemeral storage encryption https://review.openstack.org/240075 | 17:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrey Kurilin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: [microversions] Add support for 2.10 https://review.openstack.org/251486 | 17:23 |
| ndipanov | macvtap won't be good enough for those folks but not sure user initated attach would work for that | 17:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: ah, fair enough | 17:24 |
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| mriedem | sdague: dansmith: i think this is an easy -1, but you might be interested in case there are alternatives i didn't bring up https://review.openstack.org/#/c/250993/ | 17:26 |
| mriedem | like a workaround config option | 17:26 |
| mriedem | time for me to head out | 17:27 |
| ndipanov | mriedem, I can't believe ppl put a spec up for that | 17:27 |
| mriedem | ndipanov: heh, because you -1'ed his patch :) | 17:27 |
| ndipanov | well | 17:28 |
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| ndipanov | I don't know | 17:28 |
| mriedem | listing ports in neutron takes a long time, so let's not do it | 17:28 |
| ndipanov | well | 17:28 |
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| ndipanov | checking quota | 17:28 |
| ndipanov | without reserving | 17:28 |
| ndipanov | is silly | 17:28 |
| ndipanov | that was my point | 17:28 |
| ndipanov | and thenp | 17:28 |
| ndipanov | phil day | 17:28 |
| mriedem | he could add a reservation API to neutron | 17:28 |
| ndipanov | that would be the best thing to do | 17:28 |
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| ndipanov | but phils argument was | 17:29 |
| ndipanov | it's still kinda useful in cases where user is over quota and there are no races | 17:29 |
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| ndipanov | so I kinda see that | 17:29 |
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| ndipanov | but that made me sad even more so I just stopped looking at the patch | 17:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | if you create your ports up front, you avoid this mess right? | 17:29 |
| ndipanov | johnthetubaguy, yes | 17:29 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: yeah, bring your own ports | 17:30 |
| johnthetubaguy | I so want to remove some of these API calls in a new microversion... | 17:30 |
| ndipanov | BYOP | 17:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrey Kurilin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: [microversions] Increase max version to 2.11 https://review.openstack.org/253095 | 17:30 |
| mriedem | ndipanov: all of the cool kids are doing it these days | 17:31 |
| mriedem | i heard anyway | 17:31 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: i listed that as an alternative in the spec, credit you | 17:31 |
| ndipanov | that and vaping is all the rage these days | 17:31 |
| mriedem | so there are several alternatives now listed in there which i think are better than what's proposed | 17:31 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: cools | 17:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, that seems constructive | 17:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | which is always good | 17:32 |
| jlk | mriedem: thanks, reviewing. | 17:32 |
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| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: heh, 'i hate this idea, but i hate these other ideas a little bit less' | 17:34 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: yeah, that :) | 17:35 |
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| mriedem | alright, i'm out for the week, ttyl | 17:35 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: have a good one | 17:36 |
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| mordred | johnthetubaguy, sdague: for 3.0 - did we come to a conlusion about NOVA_ env vars? I can support them, but also can remove them because yay - not sure I have the right position for my opinion to matter | 17:40 |
| sdague | mordred: do we have a deprecation warning yet? | 17:40 |
| sdague | in released code | 17:40 |
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| mordred | sdague: hrm. I don't hink so - I thin it's just fallthrough | 17:40 |
| mordred | sdague: so add warnings in 3.0? | 17:41 |
| ndipanov | how come a bunch of python source files got made executable in nova | 17:41 |
| sdague | yeh, so we shouldn't remove without deprecation warnings | 17:41 |
| sdague | yeh | 17:41 |
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| mordred | kk | 17:41 |
| sdague | ndipanov: which ones? | 17:41 |
| johnthetubaguy | mordred: +1 sdague comment on deprecation warnings | 17:41 |
| mordred | sdague: warnings.warn seems to be the 'right' way to do that in novaclient, yes? | 17:42 |
| ndipanov | compute/api.py | 17:42 |
| ndipanov | compute/task_states.py | 17:42 |
| johnthetubaguy | mordred: yeah, we have reno now as well, to document it | 17:42 |
| mordred | neat! | 17:42 |
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| mordred | (I still think aout cheap casinos every time I see that word) | 17:42 |
| johnthetubaguy | heh | 17:42 |
| sdague | ndipanov: weird, git log show a thing? | 17:43 |
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| ndipanov | sdague, ./nova/tests/unit/api/openstack/compute/test_server_actions.py | 17:44 |
| ndipanov | those 3 I think | 17:44 |
| sdague | it was d60497e9f9ce8a6fc54a457eaa2cdab2a817ac90 | 17:44 |
| sdague | git log --summary nova/compute/api.py | 17:44 |
| sdague | tracy must have been working on this from windows and zonkered the permissions | 17:45 |
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| ndipanov | makes sens | 17:46 |
| ndipanov | e | 17:46 |
| sdague | I wish gerrit showed that | 17:46 |
| sdague | ndipanov: you want to spin a fix and we can fast approve it? | 17:46 |
| ndipanov | sdague, sure | 17:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Nikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova: Remove the executable bit from several python files https://review.openstack.org/253109 | 17:49 |
| ndipanov | sdague, ^ | 17:49 |
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| sdague | ndipanov: thanks, +A | 17:49 |
| ndipanov | best patch eva | 17:50 |
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| mdbooth | PaulMurray: FYI, my ceph investigations so far suggest that cold migration does work. It'll be fun working out how :) I haven't yet managed to get live migration working, as libvirt fails with: Secret not found: rbd no secret matches uuid '1c9a490a-d159-447b-89d3-c1af63698aad' | 18:00 |
| mdbooth | I don't know what that means | 18:00 |
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| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: I think this service group one looked OK ish now: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/222423/ | 18:03 |
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| danpb | mdbooth: the hint is in the IRC nick name :-) | 18:07 |
| mdbooth | danpb: really ;) | 18:07 |
| kashyap | mdbooth: I think I even saw a video of him playing, it's for real. | 18:08 |
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| ndipanov | making up a story that you play TUBA would be really weird though | 18:09 |
| kashyap | (Or a picture) | 18:09 |
| kashyap | ndipanov: lol | 18:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | its a crazy hobby to fake | 18:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | tonight is with this lot: https://www.facebook.com/CambridgeWindBand/photos/a.529519067079511.122165.529518443746240/774168409281241/?type=3&theater | 18:10 |
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| ndipanov | my point exactly | 18:10 |
| mdbooth | I see a guy with a tuba in that picture | 18:11 |
| mdbooth | Only just, though | 18:11 |
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| ndipanov | it took me a minute | 18:11 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mdbooth: I was going to send this one, but it didn't really help my cause: https://www.facebook.com/CambridgeWindBand/photos/a.888435737854507.1073741828.529518443746240/963933270304753/?type=3&theater | 18:11 |
| mdbooth | johnthetubaguy: lol | 18:12 |
| ndipanov | LOL | 18:12 |
| mdbooth | Damn big instruments | 18:12 |
| kashyap | johnthetubaguy: LOL | 18:12 |
| markus_z | :D | 18:12 |
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| johnthetubaguy | thats the small one: https://www.facebook.com/CambridgeBrassBand/photos/a.1062514390449220.1073741828.1015250955175564/1071236589577000/?type=3&theater | 18:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Tracy Jones proposed openstack/nova: config options: centralize section "wsgi" https://review.openstack.org/252687 | 18:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Tracy Jones proposed openstack/nova: config options: centralize section "guestfs" https://review.openstack.org/248963 | 18:13 |
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| johnthetubaguy | so I should actaully go now, lol... | 18:13 |
| ndipanov | the guy in the photo on the base doesn't want to listen to any of this mdbooth | 18:13 |
| mdbooth | hehe | 18:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova-specs: Adds spec for exposing host capabilities https://review.openstack.org/222200 | 18:24 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: okay, I know I need to get back to that one | 18:24 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: I have to run out to that appointment in a few, but will try to look when I get back | 18:24 |
| openstackgerrit | dane-fichter proposed openstack/nova: Nova support for image-signing https://review.openstack.org/189843 | 18:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hans Lindgren proposed openstack/nova: Remove unnecessary extra instance saves during resize https://review.openstack.org/245746 | 18:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Hans Lindgren proposed openstack/nova: Remove Instance object flavor helper methods only used in tests https://review.openstack.org/245747 | 18:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hans Lindgren proposed openstack/nova: Avoid costly lazy-loads in compute manager during instance builds https://review.openstack.org/241000 | 18:32 |
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| sfinucan | ndipanov: "SMT" or "hyperthreading" - any preference? | 18:58 |
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| sfinucan | I use them interchangably. Not going to change things now but perhaps in the future. | 18:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova-specs: Rework policies for virt-driver CPU thread pinning https://review.openstack.org/244198 | 19:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Add 'CPUThreadAllocationPolicy' enum field https://review.openstack.org/202647 | 19:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Make use of 'InstanceNUMACell.cpu_policy' field https://review.openstack.org/202653 | 19:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Add 'hw:cpu_threads_policy=isolate' scheduling https://review.openstack.org/202655 | 19:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Add 'cpu_policy' and 'cpu_thread_policy' fields https://review.openstack.org/202648 | 19:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Add 'hw:cpu_thread_policy=require' scheduling https://review.openstack.org/202651 | 19:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova-specs: Move thread policy features between specs https://review.openstack.org/244857 | 19:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Ed Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Add hypervisor, aggregates, migration description https://review.openstack.org/250737 | 19:20 |
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| jichen | johnthetubaguy: hi, sorry to raise last minute request, can you help to take a look at spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247496/ and also got a +2 on it...thanks | 19:27 |
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| dansmith | sfinucan: SMT is a generic term, hyperthreading is an intel trademark | 19:47 |
| dansmith | so I prefer the former for anything in nova, where possible | 19:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Moshe Levi proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: report pci Type-PF type even when VFs are disabled https://review.openstack.org/227160 | 19:49 |
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| sdague | ok, I have to go run an errand now, if I'm not back in an hour can you kick things off alaski | 20:04 |
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| alaski | sdague: yeah | 20:08 |
| sfinucan | dansmith: Yes, that's what I was thinking | 20:08 |
| sfinucan | though I'm not sure HyperThreading === SMT | 20:09 |
| dansmith | SMT on power is rather different | 20:13 |
| dansmith | so yeah | 20:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Rework 'limited' and 'get_limit_and_marker' https://review.openstack.org/241361 | 20:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Improve 'pci_passthrough_whitelist' documentation https://review.openstack.org/243335 | 20:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: introduce freeze filesystems https://review.openstack.org/249140 | 20:32 |
| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: introduce thaw filesystems https://review.openstack.org/249141 | 20:32 |
| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: replace direct libvirt's call AbortJobBlock https://review.openstack.org/249138 | 20:32 |
| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: move find_disk to Guest's object https://review.openstack.org/249139 | 20:32 |
| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: introduce "snapshot" to Guest's object https://review.openstack.org/249353 | 20:32 |
| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: introduce block_stats to return device stats https://review.openstack.org/251288 | 20:32 |
| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: introduce "pause" to Guest's object https://review.openstack.org/249834 | 20:32 |
| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: wrapper list_instance_guests to Host's object https://review.openstack.org/249835 | 20:32 |
| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: introduce "shutdown" to Guest's object https://review.openstack.org/249833 | 20:32 |
| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: introduce get_job_info to Guest's object https://review.openstack.org/250740 | 20:32 |
| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: configure migrate max downtime https://review.openstack.org/250739 | 20:32 |
| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: introduce "abort_job" to Guest's object https://review.openstack.org/250738 | 20:32 |
| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: introduce "migrate" to Guest's object https://review.openstack.org/250365 | 20:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrey Kurilin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: [microversions] Add support for 2.10 https://review.openstack.org/251486 | 20:43 |
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| mikal | Nova meeting in 5 minutes? | 20:53 |
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| alaski | yes | 20:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Luis Pabón proposed openstack/nova-specs: Attach/detach instance access from Manila shares https://review.openstack.org/249582 | 21:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova-specs: Rework policies for virt-driver CPU thread pinning https://review.openstack.org/244198 | 21:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova-specs: Move thread policy features between specs https://review.openstack.org/244857 | 21:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova-specs: Move thread policy features between specs https://review.openstack.org/244857 | 21:47 |
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| gjayavelu | alaski: can you please take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237805/. this has also been under https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-nova-spec-review-tracking. thanks! | 21:50 |
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| alaski | gjayavelu: I'll take a look | 21:53 |
| gjayavelu | thank you! | 21:53 |
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| sdague | melwitt: fyi https://review.openstack.org/248270 - now that we have a tempest cells job, I think we can put that one out to pasture | 21:57 |
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| melwitt | sdague: ah, cool | 21:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova-specs: Move thread policy features between specs https://review.openstack.org/244857 | 22:04 |
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| melwitt | sdague: I'm not certain the tempest job covers network connectivity for instances created with cells enabled (ping/ssh) with the blacklist/whitelist we have. that would be my only concern | 22:08 |
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| sdague | melwitt: really? | 22:09 |
| sdague | we can check that | 22:09 |
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| sdague | we're not running this on liberty / master anyway | 22:09 |
| sdague | so if it's missing, it's missing from a lot | 22:10 |
| melwitt | sdague: I need to dig into it. I have a vague memory of being able to pass our tempest suite locally while I was working on some stuff where I had inadvertently broken network connectivity for instances (not propagating network_info_cache) | 22:10 |
| sdague | ok | 22:10 |
| sdague | so we should figure that out and come up with a test to ensure that works | 22:10 |
| melwitt | sdague: yeah, good point. should cover the gap in tempest if anything | 22:11 |
| melwitt | *cells tempest | 22:11 |
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| tjones | edleafe: can you help me with something on my conf patch? Im doing something fundamentally wrong but i can't see what. error is http://paste.openstack.org/show/480840/ and patch is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/252687/ | 22:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack/nova: add api-samples tox target https://review.openstack.org/253239 | 22:27 |
| sdague | melwitt / alex_xu / oomichi ^^^ | 22:27 |
| tonyb | Is running emulated guests a thing we enable (as oppsed to support) | 22:27 |
| sdague | when poking at a thing with auggy today, I realized that's our old instructions predate tox making them not work | 22:28 |
| sdague | tonyb: can you rephrase? | 22:28 |
| tonyb | sdague: Say running x86 guests on ppc hypervisor | 22:31 |
| tonyb | sdague: It's not something we really want to tag as supported but to we want to allow for it anyway? | 22:32 |
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| tonyb | sdague: I'm looking at the uefi spec and the loader path made me think about it .... | 22:32 |
| sdague | tonyb: I think qemu emulation is fine. It's how we run devstack-gate today | 22:33 |
| tonyb | sdague: ok. I didn't know that. | 22:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kevin L. Mitchell proposed openstack/nova: add api-samples tox target https://review.openstack.org/253239 | 22:43 |
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| melwitt | sdague: question for you on the new tox target, why the hash seed = 0 thing? | 23:01 |
| dansmith | melwitt: to make it predicable output | 23:01 |
| sdague | melwitt: yeh, that | 23:01 |
| dansmith | melwitt: else the dicts will change around for no reason, | 23:01 |
| melwitt | cool, thanks | 23:01 |
| dansmith | and the samples will always be different | 23:01 |
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| cfriesen | quick question...how do we get away with generating instance.hostname based on instance.display_name? seems like we could have multiple instances end up with the same hostname even if their display names are different. | 23:03 |
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| melwitt | cfriesen: you mean because of the sanitize_hostname? I don't see anything that enforces unique on hostname so it appears we could have same hostname regardless | 23:16 |
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| cfriesen | melwitt: yeah, exactly. don't we have potential issues with duplicate hostnames and dns lookups within the cloud? | 23:20 |
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| melwitt | cfriesen: it seems so | 23:25 |
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| melwitt | I'm not sure what happens if you do that, if it would fail at the network allocation step with dnsmasq or not? I don't know much about that area | 23:26 |
| cfriesen | melwitt: me either. :) | 23:26 |
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