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| openstackgerrit | ShaoHe Feng proposed openstack/nova-specs: register device removed event https://review.openstack.org/251141 | 00:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/251659 | 00:37 |
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| tjones | melwitt: i put that test back in. i think i removed it when i had the expected_state wrong. but i honestly do not remember…. ^^ | 00:51 |
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| jaypipes | tonyb: your re-review on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/240852/ would be appreciated. thanks much in advance. | 01:14 |
| tonyb | jaypipes: will do | 01:15 |
| jaypipes | cheers mate | 01:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jian LI proposed openstack/nova: check instances az when updating host aggregate https://review.openstack.org/251788 | 02:01 |
| mriedem | looks like reboot tests fail pretty often in the multinode job https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1521823 | 02:01 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1521823 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "reboot test fails in gate-grenade-dsvm-multinode with missing disk path" [Undecided,New] | 02:01 |
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| dims | alex_xu : would you have some time to look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198065/ ? it has sdague 's +2 on it and has been pending for a while | 02:29 |
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| alex_xu | dims: I will check it today | 02:30 |
| dims | thanks! | 02:30 |
| alex_xu | dims: np | 02:30 |
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| oomichi | johnthetubaguy: can you take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/249758/ again? | 04:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jianghua Wang proposed openstack/nova: xenapi: OVS agent updates the wrong port when using XenServer + Neutron https://review.openstack.org/242846 | 04:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tang Chen proposed openstack/nova-specs: Support soft reboot and poweroff in nova ironic driver. https://review.openstack.org/229282 | 05:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Yingxin Cheng proposed openstack/nova: Use stevedore for scheduler host manager https://review.openstack.org/246476 | 05:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/252197 | 06:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | shihanzhang proposed openstack/nova-specs: Don't check port quota in nova-api https://review.openstack.org/250993 | 06:40 |
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| oomichi | alex_xu: hi | 07:06 |
| oomichi | alex_xu: re https://review.openstack.org/#/c/248463 | 07:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | FelixLi proposed openstack/nova: Change the format of some inconsistent docstring https://review.openstack.org/251648 | 07:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Hua proposed openstack/nova: xenapi: Support bare VHD image https://review.openstack.org/249627 | 07:29 |
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| alex_xu | oomichi: hi | 07:36 |
| oomichi | alex_xu: I am reviewing concept patches now | 07:37 |
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| alex_xu | oomichi: thanks | 07:37 |
| oomichi | alex_xu: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/248463/4/api-guide/source/faults.rst | 07:37 |
| alex_xu | oomichi: yes | 07:38 |
| oomichi | alex_xu: did you get actual sample of this 500 case ? | 07:38 |
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| oomichi | alex_xu: I just want to confirm it | 07:38 |
| oomichi | alex_xu: "no valid host" case | 07:38 |
| alex_xu | oomichi: yes, it is realy sample of something wrong in compute node, then scheduler after retry, no more host can be found | 07:39 |
| alex_xu | s/realy/real/ | 07:39 |
| oomichi | alex_xu: after that happens, clients can get this response when sending "show a server" API. right? | 07:39 |
| alex_xu | oomichi: yes | 07:39 |
| oomichi | alex_xu: thanks, one problem is that the response contains traceback | 07:40 |
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| oomichi | alex_xu: as api-wg guideline, it is nice to avoid sending back traceback to client | 07:40 |
| alex_xu | oomichi: yea, indeed | 07:40 |
| alex_xu | s/yea/yes/ | 07:41 |
| alex_xu | oomichi: we shouldn't return the trackback to user. | 07:41 |
| oomichi | alex_xu: the api-wg guideline is not approved yet anyway ;-) | 07:41 |
| alex_xu | oomichi: ok, but sounds make sense | 07:41 |
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| oomichi | alex_xu: that is jaypipes's one, but the update stops | 07:41 |
| oomichi | alex_xu: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/183599/ | 07:42 |
| alex_xu | oomichi: how about let me try if there is case without the traceback first | 07:42 |
| alex_xu | oomichi: then let fix the nova api after the api-wg merged | 07:42 |
| oomichi | alex_xu: that means "details" : "[snip]" on your patch at this time? | 07:43 |
| oomichi | alex_xu: instead of actual traceback | 07:43 |
| alex_xu | oomichi: emm...not sure, maybe there is case detail isn't the trackback | 07:43 |
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| oomichi | alex_xu: "No valid host was found." case with "details" : "[snip]" is fine, doesn't it work? | 07:45 |
| oomichi | alex_xu: as concept doc? | 07:45 |
| alex_xu | oomichi: sounds fine | 07:46 |
| oomichi | alex_xu: thanks, I am looking forward to seeing it without actual details | 07:46 |
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| alex_xu | oomichi: ok, no problem | 07:47 |
| alex_xu | oomichi: thanks for the review | 07:47 |
| oomichi | alex_xu: thank you also for considering this :) | 07:47 |
| alex_xu | oomichi: np | 07:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | li,chen proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Enable pass instance name as parameter in nova cli https://review.openstack.org/252237 | 08:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Shu Muto proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Remove py26 support https://review.openstack.org/252239 | 08:00 |
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| tangchen | alex_xu, oomichi: Hi, alex, oomochi, about this spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229255/ | 08:05 |
| tangchen | alex_xu, oomichi: I think there have been two +2. | 08:06 |
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| tangchen | alex_xu, oomichi: Shall we merge it ? | 08:06 |
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| oomichi | tangchen: after sdague's +1 | 08:06 |
| alex_xu | tangchen: it is good to have sdague to take a look at. | 08:06 |
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| tangchen | alex_xu, oomichi: Oh, OK. But tomorrow is the deadline, so would he take a look at it today ? | 08:07 |
| tangchen | alex_xu, oomichi: He is not online now. | 08:08 |
| oomichi | tangchen: yeah, timezone is different | 08:09 |
| alex_xu | tangchen: still need wait for 4 or 5 hours | 08:09 |
| oomichi | tangchen: maybe he can see it today | 08:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Hua proposed openstack/nova: xenapi: support the hotplug of a neutron port https://review.openstack.org/250160 | 08:10 |
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| tangchen | alex_xu, oomichi: Sure, thx. :) | 08:11 |
| alex_xu | tangchen: np | 08:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Expose quiesce/unquiesce API https://review.openstack.org/248989 | 08:28 |
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| bauzas | good morning Nova | 08:33 |
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| paul-carlton1 | andrearosa, can you review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/228828 pls | 08:40 |
| andrearosa | paul-carlton1: I will. | 08:41 |
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| paul-carlton1 | ta | 08:41 |
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| oomichi | tangchen: hi | 09:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | ChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/nova: Enhance value check for option notify_on_state_change https://review.openstack.org/242717 | 09:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tang Chen proposed openstack/nova-specs: Support soft reboot and poweroff in nova ironic driver. https://review.openstack.org/229282 | 09:24 |
| tangchen | oomichi: hi, I saw your comment. Thanks a lot. That really help. | 09:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Timofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova: DO NOT MERGE Ceph for live-migration job https://review.openstack.org/252283 | 09:26 |
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| oomichi | tangchen: can you update the spec now? | 09:28 |
| oomichi | tangchen: ah, already done. thanks | 09:29 |
| tangchen | oomichi: yes, I added the depend-on tag to the commit message. Thanks for your advice. | 09:30 |
| oomichi | tangchen: +1 :) | 09:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Simona Iuliana Toader proposed openstack/nova: objects: added 'os_secure_boot' property to ImageMetaProps object https://review.openstack.org/237593 | 09:32 |
| jichen | alex_xu: hi, just to confirm, http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref-compute-v2.1.html should contain 2.1 info, all info that talk about v2.2 - v latest should be removed, we will figure out a way to talk about microversions later? | 09:32 |
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| alex_xu | jichen: yes, you are right | 09:32 |
| jichen | alex_xu: ok, thanks | 09:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Expose quiesce/unquiesce API https://review.openstack.org/248989 | 09:33 |
| alex_xu | jichen: np, I should thanks for your help on doc | 09:34 |
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| jichen | alex_xu: np~ | 09:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Replaces longs with ints https://review.openstack.org/238239 | 09:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Expose quiesce/unquiesce API https://review.openstack.org/248989 | 09:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Fixes dict keys and items references for Python 3 https://review.openstack.org/232585 | 09:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Replaces izip_longest with six.moves.zip_longest https://review.openstack.org/238321 | 09:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | huan proposed openstack/nova: XenAPI: Support neutron security group https://review.openstack.org/251271 | 09:48 |
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| garyk1 | BobBall: can you please comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/251242 (once you give you thumbs up on it I am good) | 09:52 |
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| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: I think we can pull the trigger on m-1, unless you have seen something new? | 10:00 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: I have a call now, but yes I think we can remove the -W | 10:00 |
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| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: no worries | 10:01 |
| BobBall | Will do. | 10:02 |
| BobBall | Oh yes garyk1 - very happy with that one :) | 10:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: api-guide: add note about users https://review.openstack.org/249758 | 10:04 |
| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: api-guide: add note about users https://review.openstack.org/249758 | 10:04 |
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| sudipto | johnthetubaguy, hi, could i ask you for a review on this one : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/251296/ | 10:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alex Xu proposed openstack/nova: docs: update services description for concept guide https://review.openstack.org/248454 | 10:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Alex Xu proposed openstack/nova: docs: remove duplicated section about error handling https://review.openstack.org/248455 | 10:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Alex Xu proposed openstack/nova: docs: using the correct format and real world example for fault message https://review.openstack.org/248463 | 10:09 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sudipto: I am unsure I will get to that I am afraid, still trying to get through the specs for priority features and returning to ones that have dealt with my comments, etc. | 10:10 |
| sudipto | johnthetubaguy, ok... | 10:10 |
| BobBall | johnthetubaguy: Your vif hotplug change (which was work in progress) was missing all changes in vif.py - did you make those changes (and do you still have them) or was that the next and missing step? | 10:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | BobBall: unsure, do you have a link? | 10:11 |
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| BobBall | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/250160/ | 10:12 |
| BobBall | no - sorry | 10:12 |
| BobBall | https://review.openstack.org/55720 was your chnage | 10:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Alex Xu proposed openstack/nova: Remove description about image from faults section https://review.openstack.org/250366 | 10:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | BobBall: it just used the existing methods, didn't think it was missing code there | 10:13 |
| BobBall | vif_driver.unplug is not implemented :) | 10:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | BobBall: but I did write that in some airport while traveling, so its hard to know | 10:13 |
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| johnthetubaguy | BobBall: see line 1699, thats why I assumed it was there | 10:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | that might just be dead code I supose | 10:14 |
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| BobBall | Yes - it's there, but a no-op because the unplug happens when the VM is destroyed | 10:15 |
| garyk1 | BobBall: gracias! | 10:15 |
| BobBall | But fair enough - if the code isn't there, we will work on it :) | 10:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | BobBall: ah, I see now, funny | 10:16 |
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| ildikov | johnthetubaguy: hi | 10:22 |
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| ildikov | johnthetubaguy: if I know correctly the spec deadline is today | 10:23 |
| pkoniszewski | ildikov: tomorrow | 10:23 |
| pkoniszewski | ildikov: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Mitaka_Release_Schedule | 10:23 |
| pkoniszewski | danpb: hi, there? | 10:25 |
| ildikov | pkoniszewski: ah, ok, thanks I think I messed up with my calendar :S | 10:25 |
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| ildikov | johnthetubaguy: regardless of the date, half of my question is still valid, if somehow the spec would not make it until tomorrow, can this get an exception? | 10:27 |
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| johnthetubaguy | ildikov: its tomorrow, I haven't worked out an exception process yet | 10:28 |
| ildikov | johnthetubaguy: ok, thanks for the info, I hope it will not be needed | 10:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | lyanchih proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Help msg about libvirt always default device names https://review.openstack.org/247951 | 10:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrey Kurilin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: [microversions] WIP: Add support for 2.10 https://review.openstack.org/251486 | 10:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrey Kurilin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: [microversions] Increase max version to 2.9 https://review.openstack.org/251485 | 10:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrey Kurilin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: [microversions] Add support for 2.8 https://review.openstack.org/251484 | 10:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Fix H404/405 violations in client.py,base.py,api_version.py https://review.openstack.org/252325 | 10:44 |
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| ndipanov | johnthetubaguy, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/216578/10 <- might be interesting, I don't think this should be a spec at all | 10:47 |
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| ndipanov | or at least not something we want to block on the freeze tomorrow | 10:48 |
| ndipanov | johnthetubaguy, and I think this one can go in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/239875/ | 10:48 |
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| johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: the expected state doesn't work for those actions that don't change the VM state, and where we currently allow multiple to happen | 10:50 |
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| johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: well its a trade off I guess | 10:51 |
| paul-carlton2 | johnthetubaguy, I've got a +1, -1 and +2 on the cancel migration spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/228828/ but I think the -1 is wrong, how do I get this progressed before tomorrows deadline | 10:51 |
| ndipanov | hmmm | 10:52 |
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| ndipanov | so expected_task_state accepts a list | 10:54 |
| johnthetubaguy | paul-carlton2: I am trying to go through all the priority related specs at the moment, will try get to that | 10:54 |
| ndipanov | but looking at how it's implemented ... | 10:54 |
| paul-carlton2 | thanks | 10:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Mike Fedosin proposed openstack/nova: Remove version hardcoding for 'detail' method https://review.openstack.org/238309 | 10:55 |
| ndipanov | so I think it does a UPDATE WHERE task_state in blah1, blah2 | 10:56 |
| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/nova: VMware: cleanup ExtraSpecs https://review.openstack.org/252327 | 10:56 |
| ndipanov | so we shoudl be good actually | 10:56 |
| ndipanov | johnthetubaguy, ^ | 10:56 |
| johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: right now we allow multiple attaches/detaches at once, in the API sense at least. If we use the task state, we stop that, AFAIK. Now that might be a good idea, and we can go that route if we carefully talk through the API issues that brings up. | 10:57 |
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| mdbooth | ndipanov: Yeah, expected_task_state does multiple values race-free | 10:58 |
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| * mdbooth would like to extend that interface to cover all instance properties. It's a trivial change. | 10:59 | |
| ndipanov | johnthetubaguy, I am not sure I see the problem here - we allow attach when task state is attaching but not when it's shelving (for example) | 11:00 |
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| ndipanov | and also the API implications are it sucks less you don't want to go back to sucking more | 11:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrea Rosa proposed openstack/nova-specs: Allow volume operations when shelved https://review.openstack.org/243096 | 11:00 |
| johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: I just worry about how we, race free, get out of the attaching state | 11:00 |
| ndipanov | but I may be missing something on the API side | 11:00 |
| ndipanov | ah-hah | 11:00 |
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| johnthetubaguy | we can do stuff there, with counts and things, I guess | 11:01 |
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| ndipanov | well even if we do want to have a design-off on the details of the fix, not sure that blocking that work on the spec freeze makes sense | 11:02 |
| ndipanov | that's my point | 11:02 |
| ndipanov | it's a bug | 11:02 |
| andrearosa | ndipanov: PaulMurray is OOO today, I addressed your comment on https://review.openstack.org/243096 it'd be great if you have time for a second look | 11:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: agreed its a bug, with API implications, so its not blocked by the spec freeze | 11:02 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: FWIW, removed my -W on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/251805/3 | 11:02 |
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| johnthetubaguy | paul-carlton2: I think I agree with oomichi on his comment there | 11:03 |
| abhishekk | ndipanov: hi, could you please take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/221162/ when you get time? | 11:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | paul-carlton2: its a very bad part of the old API, it would be nice to fix that given this is a new API we are adding | 11:03 |
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| paul-carlton2 | johnthetubaguy, but there is a spec to fix that, all I am doing is reflecting the current situation | 11:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | paul-carlton2: but its a new API you are adding, right? | 11:06 |
| paul-carlton2 | If I update my spec to say it will return something different then it would be wrong | 11:06 |
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| johnthetubaguy | paul-carlton2: instance/uuid/migrations doesn't exist today right? | 11:06 |
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| johnthetubaguy | oops. s/instance/server | 11:07 |
| ndipanov | johnthetubaguy, so I am not sure I get the API conversation we want to have here | 11:07 |
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| ndipanov | we want to fix races for sure | 11:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: technically the new task state should only be visible in new microversions, based on how we agreed the contract there | 11:07 |
| paul-carlton2 | I am return the first class migration object(s) related to the instance, so effectively what I am returning is the same as os-migrations per nova migration-list but filtered for running migrations relating my instance | 11:07 |
| sudipto | bauzas, Hi, need a suggestion. We have a patchset here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/214772/ This has not been worked on for over 3 months. I would like to resume work on it under a BP - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/memory-bw - what's the best way forward? Can i make this person a co-author and submit a new patch under the BP's topic or I have to restore the one that he had submitted and that's the only way forward? | 11:08 |
| ndipanov | hmmm | 11:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | paul-carlton2: yes, we are saying thats a broken API, lets not copy it, basically | 11:08 |
| paul-carlton2 | it is a new api but it is simply returning the migrations object details | 11:08 |
| paul-carlton2 | migration object | 11:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | paul-carlton2: the problem with returning that flavor id, is that you can't look that up using the API, as I understand it (that could be rubbish) | 11:09 |
| paul-carlton2 | that is broken and the spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/219431/14/specs/mitaka/approved/display-flavor-id-in-migration.rst is meant to fix it but is not yet approved | 11:09 |
| ndipanov | johnthetubaguy, well that might not be as tricky really - just return none if a task state is not known to the requested microversion... | 11:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | paul-carlton2: but that spec alters the old API, not the new API you are adding in your spec, right? | 11:10 |
| ndipanov | ok too many parallel convos | 11:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: thats what we normally do for that stuff I think, yeah | 11:10 |
| BobBall | johnthetubaguy: in fact, XenAPI driver's plug_vifs and unplug_vifs do nothing :/ | 11:10 |
| ndipanov | johnthetubaguy, so imho that's fine, but stil reject conflicting requests for all microversions | 11:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | BobBall: generally, yes, it all assuming modifying the vif hooks stuff | 11:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: agreed, just needs agreeing in the spec | 11:11 |
| BobBall | johnthetubaguy: No... I mean, for example, driver.plug_vifs just loops through all the vifs that are asked to be plugged, and calls vif_driver.plug(). This method just returns a dictionary, which is then discarded by driver.plug_vifs | 11:12 |
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| BobBall | so we have an implementation which is trying to do something but the effect of the code is a noop | 11:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | BobBall: oh... thats odd | 11:12 |
| andrearosa | paul-carlton2: what about get rid of those two values in the spec now as we know they are wrong/useless and then discuss what we can insert there during the code review? I still think it is an implementation details and we shouldn't block the spec for that. | 11:12 |
| BobBall | I'm going to raise a bug and get it fixed. | 11:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | BobBall: I guess the create VM code does the real work | 11:12 |
| BobBall | It does, yes | 11:13 |
| BobBall | And we rely on XAPI cleaning up the VIFs - which it happens to do very reliably ;) | 11:13 |
| ndipanov | johnthetubaguy, I am fine with that totally if only we didn't have the blanket freeze tomorrow, in which case we'd be blocking a useful bug fix that even has a person signed up to do it | 11:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | andrearosa: we block any API change on getting a spec agreement, basically because with continuous deployers, its hard to go back on a bad API change. | 11:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: like I said, bug fixes with API impact are not blocked by the freeze, we merged a few of those last cycle, I believe. What is blocked is new features, because we already have over 100 blueprint approved with no hope of merging them all | 11:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Maxime Leroy proposed openstack/nova: Libvirt: Support fp plug in vhostuser vif https://review.openstack.org/245369 | 11:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Maxime Leroy proposed openstack/nova: Libvirt: Support ovs fp plug in vhostuser vif https://review.openstack.org/237680 | 11:15 |
| ndipanov | johnthetubaguy, ok I had no idea about that | 11:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Mike Fedosin proposed openstack/nova: Remove version hardcoding for 'delete' method https://review.openstack.org/252334 | 11:15 |
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| paul-carlton2 | johnthetubaguy, wouldn't it be better to fix the migrations object to contain a reference to the flavors that is meaningful | 11:17 |
| pkholkin | mdbooth: hello, are you here? | 11:18 |
| pkholkin | johnthetubaguy: hello John, could you please ask somebody to look at the patch that we discussed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/243496/. I wrote Sean two times yesterday. | 11:19 |
| pkholkin | without core opinios we can't fix other similar patches | 11:19 |
| pkoniszewski | paul-carlton2: according to your suggestion in pause-vm-during-live-migration - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229040/14/specs/mitaka/approved/pause-vm-during-live-migration.rst | 11:20 |
| pkoniszewski | paul-carlton2: not sure I should include GET call there, your spec covers it, we probably don't want to duplicate it | 11:20 |
| paul-carlton2 | The nova migrations-list returns the same information as I am proposing to return at present, I agree it should be fixed but it should not hold this spec | 11:21 |
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| pkoniszewski | agree with you there, its not related to your spec | 11:21 |
| andrearosa | johnthetubaguy: I agree with you, so my proposal is to remove the two fields from the spec as we know they are wrong. | 11:21 |
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| paul-carlton2 | pkoniszewski, yes you could make your spec dependant on mine then you could just implement the POST and nova command | 11:22 |
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| johnthetubaguy | paul-carlton2: +1 thats probably what we need here | 11:23 |
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| pkoniszewski | how do i set dependency now? isn't that implementation specific? I mean, I can't implement pause without GET call | 11:23 |
| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/python-novaclient: DNM: add importlib to test requirements https://review.openstack.org/252336 | 11:23 |
| pkoniszewski | ah, I can set dependency on my patch set which will update merged spec | 11:24 |
| pkoniszewski | got it! thanks :D | 11:24 |
| paul-carlton2 | pkoniszewski, no you need to do a get then a post | 11:24 |
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| pkoniszewski | paul-carlton2: exactly what i meant | 11:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | pkholkin: its a bad few days for that, we have the spec freeze right now | 11:24 |
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| paul-carlton2 | pkoniszewski, ? | 11:25 |
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| pkoniszewski | paul-carlton2: nevermind, I'll submit update to my spec in a few minutes | 11:26 |
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| ndipanov | johnthetubaguy, see my comment here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/243096/6 | 11:26 |
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| ndipanov | a lot of proposed work around volumes - we might want to have more coordination around areas like that | 11:27 |
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| BobBall | johnthetubaguy: FYI https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1521977 | 11:29 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1521977 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "XenAPI: XenVIF implementation breaks the interface" [Medium,New] | 11:29 |
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| johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: yeah, agreed with you, I think a volume subteam would help organise those efforts that keep popping up | 11:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Mike Fedosin proposed openstack/nova: Remove version hardcoding for 'download' method https://review.openstack.org/252341 | 11:31 |
| paul-carlton2 | pkoniszewski, the way I see it working with the restful approach of using the /servers/uuid/migrations approach is the client (novaclient or custom client) would call GET then DELETE (POST in your case) so the novaclient would need to do two calls on the API to get the migration then update it | 11:31 |
| pkoniszewski | paul-carlton2: totally agree with you | 11:32 |
| pkholkin | johnthetubaguy: understand. but still we want to consider with our concept( | 11:32 |
| pkoniszewski | paul-carlton2: can you rebase ur spec? i can't see my spec from ur branch so I can't set dependency | 11:32 |
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| paul-carlton2 | ok | 11:32 |
| ndipanov | abhishekk, commented :( | 11:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Carlton proposed openstack/nova-specs: Cancel ongoing live migrations https://review.openstack.org/228828 | 11:35 |
| sudipto | ndipanov, whenever you have sometime...https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245765/ | 11:36 |
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| paul-carlton2 | pkoniszewski, done, I think! | 11:36 |
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| pkoniszewski | paul-carlton2: thanks! I can see my spec now :) | 11:37 |
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| markus_z | ndipanov: speaking of volumes. Would be cool if the potential subteam would also look at some bugs in that area. New features are cool but not the only things which make ops happy. | 11:43 |
| ndipanov | markus_z, well tbh at least 2 of those specs are practically bug fixes | 11:44 |
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| ndipanov | but yes I agree with you | 11:45 |
| markus_z | ndipanov: Ah, cool, I haven't looked at them in detail. | 11:45 |
| markus_z | ndipanov: Do you have the names of the bp? | 11:45 |
| ndipanov | markus_z, lemme look | 11:45 |
| ndipanov | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/184537/ | 11:46 |
| ndipanov | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/216578/ | 11:46 |
| markus_z | cool, thanks, I keep an eye on them | 11:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Fix H404/405 violations in novaclient/*.py https://review.openstack.org/252348 | 11:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova-specs: Reassign virt-rescue-stable-disk-devices https://review.openstack.org/252349 | 11:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Radoslav Gerganov proposed openstack/nova-specs: VMware: add support for Virtual Volumes https://review.openstack.org/243633 | 11:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pawel Koniszewski proposed openstack/nova-specs: Pause VM during live migration as migration action https://review.openstack.org/252352 | 11:55 |
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| paul-carlton2 | johnthetubaguy, ok, I've looked at this and talked to andrearosa, If I make the change that oomichi suggested and in the implementation we will retrieve the flavor objects and fill in the old and new _flavor_flavorid | 11:57 |
| johnthetubaguy | paul-carlton2: that sounds good | 11:58 |
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| paul-carlton2 | however, note that this will not change what the migration-list returns so unless the https://review.openstack.org/#/c/219431/14 spec lands my new API will return a different representation of the migration object than migration-list | 11:59 |
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| ndipanov | johnthetubaguy, anyway https://review.openstack.org/#/c/239875/. The work that this depends on is humming along both on Nova and neutron side so who knows... | 12:00 |
| ndipanov | it might even have a chance of making it as it's quite small | 12:00 |
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| ndipanov | johnthetubaguy, also from the sriov subteam - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/199488/ | 12:01 |
| andrearosa | koniszewski: ref to you update for pause live migration, I think yesterday the agreement was to use 'force-complete', am I wrong? | 12:02 |
| andrearosa | pkoniszewski: ^^ | 12:02 |
| pkoniszewski | well, Paul wrote something about live-migration-modify, thought that I missed something | 12:03 |
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| paul-carlton2 | taking the point dansmith point on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/219431/14 the flavor.id needs to be retained for compatibility, in my API I could just report flavorid which is meaningful to the user, that would mean the representation of the migration object would be different from the one returned by migration-list even if the other spec lands but maybe that is ok in the pursuit of a cleanere API response, i.e. one wi | 12:05 |
| paul-carlton2 | thout two different ids for flavor! | 12:05 |
| ndipanov | we actually had a case of people posting code in the comments of a spec gerrit review | 12:06 |
| ndipanov | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/139910/9 | 12:06 |
| ndipanov | this | 12:06 |
| paul-carlton2 | pkoniszewski, that was my suggestion, if I recall the meeting yesterday did not really decide on a good name | 12:06 |
| ndipanov | is | 12:06 |
| ndipanov | amazing! | 12:06 |
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| * ndipanov mind blown | 12:06 | |
| paul-carlton2 | my thinking is the live-migration-modify is more generic and means we can use it for all sorts of migration tweaking controls in the future | 12:10 |
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| pkoniszewski | this might add another problem with merging this spec, so I will fall back to live-migration-force-complete and we will see in review | 12:11 |
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| pkoniszewski | deadline is tomorrow, not much time | 12:11 |
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| paul-carlton2 | ack | 12:11 |
| abhishekk | ndipanov: thank you, I will take a look | 12:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Fix H404/405 violations in novaclient/tests/* https://review.openstack.org/252363 | 12:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Timofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova: DO NOT MERGE Ceph for live-migration job https://review.openstack.org/252283 | 12:21 |
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| tdurakov_ | sdague, hi, are you around? | 12:23 |
| sdague | tdurakov_: yeh, what's up? | 12:24 |
| tdurakov_ | got question about ceph and devstack, in devstack xfs is used for ceph data, is it required for live-migration job? | 12:25 |
| tdurakov_ | sdague, ^ | 12:25 |
| sdague | I don't know | 12:25 |
| sdague | the ceph configuration was all built by ceph folks | 12:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Carlton proposed openstack/nova-specs: Cancel ongoing live migrations https://review.openstack.org/228828 | 12:25 |
| tdurakov_ | sdague, well, it looks like optional thing, as i managed to deploy manually ceph on multinode devstack without it | 12:26 |
| tdurakov_ | ok, create first patch without it, if you decide it's smth required - let me know | 12:27 |
| sdague | ok, cool | 12:27 |
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| sdague | it might just be needed for some of the swift like function | 12:27 |
| sdague | as I know swift needs xfs for xattr support | 12:27 |
| tdurakov_ | not sure, it is about swift | 12:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/python-novaclient: add importlib to test requirements https://review.openstack.org/252336 | 12:31 |
| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Hack python 2.6 test with python 2.7 https://review.openstack.org/252336 | 12:32 |
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| jichen | andreykurilin: hi, about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/252336/3//COMMIT_MSG | 12:39 |
| jichen | andreykurilin: why you think the commit message is outdate? | 12:40 |
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| andreykurilin | jichen: The main reason of py26 failures - keystone stopped support py26(importerror is raised by keystoneclient) | 12:44 |
| andreykurilin | jichen: and it doesn't relate to update of requests-mock | 12:45 |
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| jichen | andreykurilin: ok, I thought it succeed yesterday and failed today, so might be something introduced recently, and a quick check shows you are right, keystoneclient's problem, thx | 12:46 |
| andreykurilin | jichen: :) ok, so you can just write something like "there are several novaclient's requirements stopped support py26" | 12:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Moshe Levi proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: report pci Type-PF type even when VFs are disabled https://review.openstack.org/227160 | 12:47 |
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| jichen | andreykurilin: yeah, by the way, any link to 'keystone support 2.6' so I can copy it into the commit msg? | 12:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova-specs: Adds spec for exposing host capabilities https://review.openstack.org/222200 | 12:47 |
| claudiub | bauzas: hi. I've addressed your coments ^ :) | 12:48 |
| andreykurilin | jichen: https://github.com/openstack/python-keystoneclient/commit/f4e6f12a714080a1e0391d4891d3bcf0eecfbaaf | 12:48 |
| kashyap | danpb: When you get a moment, I see occasional libvirt I/O errors like these in the Gate jobs: "libvirtError: cannot read header '/dev/disk/by-path/[...]-lun-1'" http://logs.openstack.org/80/251980/1/check/gate-grenade-dsvm-multinode/5716e36/logs/old/screen-n-cpu.txt.gz#_2015-12-02_10_57_35_812 | 12:49 |
| jichen | andreykurilin: ok, great, let me take a look and update my commit msg, thanks~ | 12:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Hack python 2.6 test with python 2.7 https://review.openstack.org/252336 | 12:50 |
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| sdague | jichen: please don't go that way, ask in #openstack-infra about expediting the review there | 12:52 |
| jichen | sdague: ok, will do it | 12:53 |
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| atuvenie | #openstack-meeting3 | 12:56 |
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| kashyap | danpb: Ignore me, it's something related to authentication issue with iscsid. I'll try to investigate. | 13:01 |
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| paul-carlton2 | johnthetubaguy, I've updated https://review.openstack.org/#/c/228828 if you could take a look pls | 13:06 |
| mdbooth | Is the ceph gate new? | 13:07 |
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| mdbooth | Seen 2 different failures on it in 2 attempts, neither relevant | 13:08 |
| mdbooth | I was wondering if it's only recently been made voting | 13:08 |
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| alex_xu | sdague: hi, just want to ensure whether this kind of action is our expect https://review.openstack.org/#/c/252352/1/specs/mitaka/approved/pause-vm-during-live-migration.rst | 13:10 |
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| alex_xu | sdague: as this new style action in our API, i'm afraid we start new style without more consideration. | 13:11 |
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| alex_xu | sdague: also in our wsgi code, the action decorator won't support such new action, and people need add new route like this https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/openstack/compute/hosts.py#L298 | 13:11 |
| alex_xu | sdague: so how about we still use the old style action /servers/{id}/migrations/{id}/action - {"force_complete": null} | 13:13 |
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| pkoniszewski | alex_xu: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/252352/ | 13:13 |
| pkoniszewski | i want to change this one to /migrations/{id} | 13:13 |
| alex_xu | pkoniszewski: you mean didn't use as sub-resources of servers? | 13:14 |
| pkoniszewski | yes | 13:14 |
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| alex_xu | pkoniszewski: emm...I'm afraid that need new agreement with all the poeple | 13:16 |
| sdague | alex_xu: yeh, I'm find with that | 13:16 |
| alex_xu | s/poeple/people | 13:16 |
| sdague | pkoniszewski: we definitely don't want this as a top level resources | 13:16 |
| alex_xu | sdague: and that new style action didn't improve too much with current action, it still undiscoverable | 13:16 |
| sdague | alex_xu: sure, that's fine | 13:17 |
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| pkoniszewski | */action | 13:17 |
| pkoniszewski | yes | 13:17 |
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| alex_xu | sdague: actually I like POST servers/{id}/migrations/{id}/force_compelete, but I still didn't want to introduce new style action such quickly. | 13:18 |
| sdague | alex_xu: yeh, I think that's fine, we can do it with /servers/{id}/migrations/{id}/action | 13:19 |
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| alex_xu | sdague: ok, cool, thanks | 13:19 |
| alex_xu | pkoniszewski: are you ok with this? | 13:19 |
| pkoniszewski | alex_xu: sure, I'll send an update in few seconds :) | 13:20 |
| alex_xu | pkoniszewski: thanks :) | 13:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Pawel Koniszewski proposed openstack/nova-specs: Pause VM during live migration as migration action https://review.openstack.org/252352 | 13:21 |
| alex_xu | pkoniszewski: just reminder, we should use '_' in the field naming as the api-wg guideline | 13:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | mdbooth: its not that new, although I think they are creating a new ceph gate at the moment, unsure if thats related | 13:21 |
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| pkoniszewski | alex_xu: I'm using '_' in the newest patch set | 13:21 |
| mdbooth | johnthetubaguy: That's why I ask. I don't remember seeing it before, and it's failing. | 13:21 |
| alex_xu | pkoniszewski: cool! | 13:21 |
| mdbooth | Although the 2 failures are actually the same, not different. | 13:22 |
| mdbooth | Not related to the patch, though. | 13:22 |
| ansiwen | mdbooth: it's on stable/kilo if that matters | 13:22 |
| paul-carlton2 | johnthetubaguy, I've updated https://review.openstack.org/#/c/228828 if you could take a look pls | 13:23 |
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| johnthetubaguy | paul-carlton2: was having lunch, taking a look at those right now | 13:23 |
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| mdbooth | johnthetubaguy: So not looking for a fix directly, just wondering if a new job has accidentally been made voting too soon | 13:24 |
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| paul-carlton2 | Guess as much, pinged you again when I saw you were back, thanks | 13:24 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mdbooth: ah, possibly could be that | 13:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Timofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova: DO NOT MERGE Ceph for live-migration job https://review.openstack.org/252283 | 13:28 |
| sdague | andrearosa: in trying to get to a more palatable solution to the stuck attachments problems, is there some additional info about how things get stuck? | 13:28 |
| alex_xu | paul-carlton2: some comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/228828/ | 13:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Ryan Moore proposed openstack/nova: config options: centralize section: "rdp" https://review.openstack.org/252389 | 13:30 |
| alex_xu | paul-carlton2: but I think those are quick fix | 13:30 |
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| andrearosa | sdague: I have a couple of reproducibles, I am off for food now, then I'll ping you later. | 13:33 |
| sdague | andrearosa: ok, I also put it out on the ML given TZ overlap issues | 13:33 |
| andrearosa | sdague: ok | 13:33 |
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| sdague | but it would be handy to figure out how much of DELETE we can just fix | 13:33 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: sdague one more thought, we didn't have 'migration_type' in the API, user can't know the what type of migration was list. Should we add it now? or this should be separated propose to add 'migration_type' both for /migrations and /servers/{id}/migrations | 13:34 |
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| sdague | alex_xu: I feel like that's going to open up a whole other can of worms on canonical naming | 13:35 |
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| sdague | I'm happy to punt that one until later | 13:35 |
| alex_xu | sdague: ok, no problem, let's do that later | 13:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: while I agree, I think sdague makes a good point, lets move forward | 13:36 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: ok, got it | 13:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Miguel Angel Ajo proposed openstack/nova-specs: [WIP] Externally pluggable scheduler https://review.openstack.org/252395 | 13:37 |
| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: sdague: should GET /servers/{id}/migrations include completed, cancelled and failed migrations, or only "active" migrations? I was assuming it included all migrations? | 13:37 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy: active only | 13:37 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: oops, I thought different, it is active only | 13:37 |
| sdague | this isn't a log interface | 13:38 |
| sdague | that's what instance actions is for | 13:38 |
| sdague | this is migrations that current exist | 13:38 |
| sdague | and the model for them existing, is they are running | 13:38 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: how do you check if your cancel operations work? check instance actions I guess? | 13:38 |
| sdague | in the same way that /servers/{id}/ips doesn't return all ip addresses the server ever had | 13:39 |
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| paul-carlton2 | alex_xu, on it | 13:39 |
| alex_xu | paul-carlton2: cool, thanks | 13:39 |
| paul-carlton2 | a comment | 13:39 |
| paul-carlton2 | There might be value in allowing the instance owner to perform the GET especially if/when https://review.openstack.org/#/c/248472/ is implemented to provide details of the migration progress. | 13:39 |
| paul-carlton2 | Also they will need GET to do the DELETE per use case 3 | 13:39 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy: or GET /servers/{id}/migration/{id} ? | 13:40 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: OK, I am still thinking too much about /os-migrations with my operator hat, its only useful to me because it is a log interface, but at least we keep that intact given this is a new API | 13:40 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sdague: yeah, the direct get make sense | 13:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Ryan Moore proposed openstack/nova: config options: centralize section: "rdp" https://review.openstack.org/252389 | 13:40 |
| sdague | it seems like the direct get should show the status of the migration | 13:41 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sdague: I guess, we always leave open GET /servers/{id}/migrations/?show_all=true or similar, if that turns out to be important | 13:42 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy: yeh, but for now I don't want that to be the model | 13:43 |
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| sdague | I guess the other piece which we should do is return a link to the /server/{id}/migration/{id} on calls that create migrations as links | 13:43 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: yeah, actually makes more sense to me now, when you only list active ones, I was assuming the reverse | 13:43 |
| sdague | that's the part that would complete the circle of life here | 13:43 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: good point | 13:44 |
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| sdague | heh | 13:44 |
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| paul-carlton2 | so are we ok with access to GET being policy controlled but an is_admin check to avoid show node names to non admins? | 13:44 |
| sdague | my evil plan has succeeded | 13:44 |
| johnthetubaguy | paul-carlton2: we don't want is_admin anywhere really | 13:45 |
| sdague | paul-carlton2: right, I think that if you want 2 different representations we need to consider what that is | 13:45 |
| sdague | because I don't really understand how you are given access to live migration without knowing node names | 13:45 |
| danpb | hands up who wants their spec reviewed & possibly +2'd * | 13:46 |
| alex_xu | one more point is we should return 409 when cancel and force_complete at sametime | 13:46 |
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| lxsli | ndipanov: re: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/244485, a quick grep on 'pre-migrating' shows a couple of usages at ./nova/compute/resource_tracker.py:282 and :305 | 13:46 |
| danpb | * spec must not have any pre-existing -1's that haven't been addressed, if it does i'll ignore it | 13:46 |
| paul-carlton2 | The progress reporting is useful to normal user | 13:46 |
| alex_xu | danpb: o/ https://review.openstack.org/245543 | 13:46 |
| paul-carlton2 | alex_xu, not sure, you might force complete but then the migration is still taking too long so you want to cancel it? | 13:47 |
| sdague | alex_xu: cancel should always work, no? are you saying you can't cancel a force_completed migration? | 13:47 |
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| pkoniszewski | paul-carlton2: +1 | 13:47 |
| sdague | I'm not convinced there is really a good use of 409 here, I think we should just 400 if something is wrong | 13:47 |
| danpb | you should always be permitted to cancel a migration | 13:47 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, cancel should always be attempted I feel | 13:47 |
| danpb | right up until the point it has switched to running on the new host | 13:48 |
| ndipanov | lxsli, yep | 13:48 |
| johnthetubaguy | mind you, force-complete something that is being cancelled doesn't really make sense | 13:48 |
| danpb | so there's definitely time when you can cancel a migration that has been marked force-complete | 13:48 |
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| lxsli | ndipanov: you don't need to change those? | 13:48 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy: sure, so that's a bad request | 13:48 |
| alex_xu | emm...agree with everyone, so what is force_completed a cancel? | 13:48 |
| danpb | because force-complete will take non-zero time | 13:48 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: OK | 13:48 |
| alex_xu | ok, I got answer | 13:49 |
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| paul-carlton2 | alex_xu, johnthetubaguy, still need to resolve the admin/user view of compute nodes? | 13:49 |
| sdague | paul-carlton2: I'm not sure I understand " The progress reporting is useful to normal user" | 13:49 |
| sdague | because either you have access to live migration, so you know your node topology and can push things around where you want | 13:50 |
| sdague | or you don't | 13:50 |
| alex_xu | paul-carlton2: i thought the premission is configurable instead of a hardcode admin permission check in the code | 13:50 |
| sdague | in which case the fact that your server is getting live migrated is hidden from you entirely | 13:50 |
| sdague | I'm not sure I really understand the use case for the middle ground | 13:50 |
| paul-carlton2 | There is a spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/248472/ which will add detailed progress reporting to migration object which could be useful to a user | 13:50 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sdague: well we do expose that in the task_state, and by blocking snapshots etc | 13:51 |
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| sdague | hmmmm | 13:51 |
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| paul-carlton2 | If we allow the user to access the GET per policy.json we need a way to filter the fields displayed to avoid exposing compute node names | 13:52 |
| sdague | paul-carlton2: right, if this is a different permission than creating the live migration | 13:52 |
| sdague | which I think to start, it should be the same permission as that | 13:52 |
| paul-carlton2 | yep, one of the use cases in the spec is that the user wants to cancel the migration to attach a volume etc | 13:53 |
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| paul-carlton2 | They would benefit from info about progress, even if they don't get to see where it is moving from to | 13:54 |
| johnthetubaguy | that user might need to ask the admin to stop the live-migrate, by default, I think. | 13:54 |
| sdague | paul-carlton2: but that class of user needs to have access to creating a live migration I would think | 13:54 |
| sdague | yeh, I think so | 13:54 |
| johnthetubaguy | I mean, sure, we could allow that asymmetry, but lets not default that way | 13:54 |
| sdague | because if the ops team is live migrating everyone off a node to fix a hypervisor vulnerability, there is no way they want end users stopping that | 13:54 |
| paul-carlton2 | nope, they just want to manage their instance like attach/detach volume, snapshot, hard reboot | 13:54 |
| paul-carlton2 | so you only grant the DELETE to trusted users | 13:55 |
| lxsli | ndipanov: are you replacing pre-migrating with accepted, or inserting accepted before it please? | 13:55 |
| paul-carlton2 | in a public cloud this might be key customers, in a private cloud it could be all users with corporate sanction for misuse | 13:55 |
| sdague | paul-carlton2: right, in which case they can all know about the node names | 13:56 |
| sdague | that's the part I don't understand, hiding the node names, but still providing all the actions | 13:56 |
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| * alex_xu remeber progress field in instance also show live-migration progress in some virt driver | 13:56 | |
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| paul-carlton2 | In the public cloud scenario, how many nodes you have is sensitive commercial info | 13:57 |
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| sdague | paul-carlton2: right, and in the public cloud scenario you don't expose the live migration permission to users | 13:57 |
| paul-carlton2 | so even a key customer would be given access to node names | 13:57 |
| paul-carlton2 | would not rather! | 13:57 |
| sdague | paul-carlton2: right, I agree with you | 13:57 |
| ndipanov | lxsli, so pre-migrating is the state at which we consider the migration for resource tracking | 13:57 |
| ndipanov | lxsli, and doing a claim automatically sets it to that state which si done holding a global lock on the compute nodes | 13:58 |
| sdague | it seems to me: can create a live-migration, can see nodenames where migrations are going to are inextricably linked | 13:58 |
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| ndipanov | so claim() is the proper place to put it to pre-migrating | 13:59 |
| ndipanov | I guess that commit message could have done with that explanation :) | 13:59 |
| paul-carlton2 | yes, operators can create migration and see node names, the user can do neither! | 13:59 |
| lxsli | ndipanov: it would help clueless noobs like me :) | 13:59 |
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| lxsli | ndipanov: thanks | 14:00 |
| ndipanov | lxsli, it's a fair point | 14:00 |
| sdague | paul-carlton2: right, and I don't understand why you would then give the "user" access to /servers/{id}/migrations ... either | 14:00 |
| sdague | because those are artifacts for people that can create / delete those | 14:00 |
| sdague | which are not that user | 14:00 |
| paul-carlton2 | The only way to implement this is to have policy setting so the cloud operator can choose who can see details of migration progress and also who can cancel it | 14:00 |
| sdague | paul-carlton2: that's where I don't agree, I think this is all https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/1734ce7101982dd95f8fab1ab4815bd258a33744/etc/nova/policy.json#L399 | 14:01 |
| sdague | that's the permission for all of this | 14:01 |
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| paul-carlton2 | so the user has an interest in their instance and managing it, but no business doing migrations | 14:02 |
| paul-carlton2 | If we could make live migrations truly invisible to the user it would be great but we can't not yet, maybe never | 14:03 |
| paul-carlton2 | so a user sees that their instance is migrating and can't do a bunch of operations on it | 14:03 |
| sdague | paul-carlton2: yes | 14:03 |
| sdague | because letting them go and cancel things makes it all worse | 14:03 |
| paul-carlton2 | They can contact cloud support to complain but that is all | 14:03 |
| sdague | because someone was migrating that for a reason | 14:04 |
| paul-carlton2 | However a key issue in cloud operations is driving down the cost of operations and support | 14:04 |
| sdague | right, and exposing cancel to the user would drive those up | 14:05 |
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| paul-carlton2 | If you allow users access to detailed info about the progress of the migration they might see that it nearly complete and quietly wait a while, thus not cost of support call | 14:05 |
| sdague | because now you are doing maintenance and all of a sudden someone keeps relanding these guest on a server you have to take down | 14:05 |
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| sdague | paul-carlton2: ok, so that's going to be a whole other conversation about "expert users" | 14:06 |
| paul-carlton2 | If you allow trusted/valuable customers to cancel the migration to do an operation like detach/attach volume then you prevent them calling support and demanding you cancel it | 14:06 |
| sdague | we had a session on that in the last summit, that included things like when could you actually push the full stack trace | 14:06 |
| sdague | paul-carlton2: you do, but you generate a whole other cost by migrations being canceled which really can't be | 14:07 |
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| sdague | you seem to be completely discounting the operational cost of that | 14:07 |
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| sdague | you also make it sound like people are randomly live migrating things all the time, and not considering why they really need to get those guests off that host | 14:08 |
| paul-carlton2 | So we provide the facility to allow a cloud operator to safely (i.e. without exposing node names) provide users access to migration progress details and cancellation privileges, but the cloud operator can decide what users to grant this to if any | 14:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | paul-carlton2: that feels a lot like a follow on blueprint/spec | 14:10 |
| sdague | yeh, that's a different beast | 14:10 |
| danpb | sdague: yeah if we want to delegate ability to cancel migration, it sounds like the operator needs a way to "lock" a migration to prevent cancellation on a per-op basis | 14:10 |
| paul-carlton2 | In a large cloud, if you are doing monthly node reboots to deploy security updates then yes, you could be migrating instances a lot | 14:10 |
| danpb | so if they absolutely must evacuate a host, you can forbid cancellation | 14:10 |
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| johnthetubaguy | danpb: if we allowed users to cancel it, yes, I could see us going that way | 14:10 |
| paul-carlton2 | This user cancellation was in the use cases of the spec | 14:11 |
| sdague | danpb: right, that does assume that when an operator initiates a live migration they didn't already really care that it worked | 14:11 |
| sdague | what I'm saying is that today we implicitly already have that lock | 14:11 |
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| sdague | and what is being asked for is really POST /servers/{id}/action {"maybe-live-migrate"} | 14:12 |
| danpb | for purposes of getting something done in Mitaka, it seems easiest to just require cancellation to require | 14:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: its maintenance vs resource levelling, I suspect, but yeah, today everything is implicitly locked, which is the easiest way | 14:12 |
| danpb | the same (elevated) privileges used to initiate it in the first place | 14:12 |
| sdague | danpb: yeh, agreed | 14:12 |
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| johnthetubaguy | danpb: yeah, thats what we are arguing for | 14:13 |
| danpb | ok so lets go for that and consider further enhancements as a follow on | 14:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova-specs: Adds spec for instance live resize https://review.openstack.org/141219 | 14:14 |
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| paul-carlton2 | Ok, I'll remove mention of exposing the GET or DELETE to normal users | 14:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | danpb: thats my preference here | 14:14 |
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| paul-carlton2 | this will be an admin function by default | 14:15 |
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| sdague | because it seems like what's really wanted is marking certain live migrations as end user killable, which is a different part of the model. But it should really be opt in from api. So a load leveling tool would set it, but nova live-migrate would not | 14:15 |
| sdague | which I agree is a different follow on | 14:15 |
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| paul-carlton2 | ok, will update spec | 14:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: +1 | 14:16 |
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| claudiub | sdague: hi. So, regarding the os-win patch for Hyper-V, you said that the ComputeDriverException (NovaException subclass) is not particularly useful. So, you think we should use generic NovaExceptions instead? | 14:21 |
| sdague | claudiub: yes | 14:21 |
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| sdague | for the same reasons as the past patch when I said the same things | 14:21 |
| claudiub | sdague: ok, great. updating asap. | 14:22 |
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| paul-carlton2 | alex_xu, re your comment about rejecting cancellations of non live migrations, looking at it migration type is a column in migrations table but not exposed in migration object, johnthetubaguy, danpb any idea why? | 14:23 |
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| johnthetubaguy | paul-carlton2: sounds like it just got missed out for some reason | 14:23 |
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| paul-carlton2 | ah, it is a field in the object of course but not exposed in migrations-list | 14:24 |
| alex_xu | paul-carlton2: yea, that didn't exposed that in the rest api, just talk with sdague, we can expose that later with separated propose | 14:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | paul-carlton2: hang on, yeah, its there: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/objects/migration.py#L51 | 14:24 |
| danpb | paul-carlton2: no idea at all | 14:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | paul-carlton2: its only recently been added for live-migrate, we didn't change the API on purpose, as I think we don't allow live-migrates in the API right now | 14:24 |
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| johnthetubaguy | paul-carlton2: just checking though, my memory is sketchy on that | 14:25 |
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| rpodolyaka | hey there! could stable cores please review - https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/liberty+topic:fix_status_reporting,n,z ? | 14:26 |
| rpodolyaka | ^ contains fixes for https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1505471 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1517926 | 14:26 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1505471 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Service group's DB driver dies if local conductor is used" [High,Fix committed] - Assigned to John Garbutt (johngarbutt) | 14:26 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1517926 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Nova services stop to report state via remote conductor" [High,Fix committed] - Assigned to Roman Podoliaka (rpodolyaka) | 14:26 |
| paul-carlton2 | yep it is suppressed in API | 14:26 |
| paul-carlton2 | I'll suppress it in new API too? | 14:27 |
| johnthetubaguy | rpodolyaka: those bug fixes are currently being reworked in a new patch somewhere on master that has a better fix, let me see if I can find it | 14:27 |
| paul-carlton2 | but use value to reject cancellation of non live migrations | 14:27 |
| johnthetubaguy | rpodolyaka: oh wait, thats your patch :) | 14:27 |
| alex_xu | paul-carlton2: yes, I think so | 14:27 |
| rpodolyaka | johnthetubaguy: oh, I missed that | 14:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | rpodolyaka: I mean the later bug fix is the better one, I wouldn't include the first one | 14:28 |
| rpodolyaka | johnthetubaguy: ah, I got you wrong :) | 14:29 |
| paul-carlton2 | in fact I can also have the GET only return live migrations, so you get 404 if you do a GET and there is not a running live migration, i.e. cold migrations etc are not returned | 14:29 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: what's wrong with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247491/ ? it's a regression due to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/180956/ in liberty | 14:31 |
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| rpodolyaka | johnthetubaguy: so you suggest we just drop the first patch? as the second one is kind of a more general fix | 14:31 |
| johnthetubaguy | rpodolyaka: unsure, will leave that with mriedem | 14:32 |
| rpodolyaka | ok | 14:33 |
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| mriedem | oh i see, the 2nd patch reworks the 1st change | 14:34 |
| mriedem | effectively making the first pointless to backport | 14:34 |
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| mriedem | rpodolyaka: i'd say we just go with the 2nd one then, and only backport https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247552/ | 14:35 |
| mriedem | not sure if that creates a nasty merge conflict or not | 14:35 |
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| rpodolyaka | mriedem: ok, np. l'll just rebase it on the top of stable/liberty then | 14:35 |
| rpodolyaka | thanks guys! | 14:35 |
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| andrearosa | sdague: I've seen your email on the ML about the nova-manage stuff and stuck deleting volumes, I'll try to reply to that email with all the history and discussion about that spec+patch. I think it is easier to keep the disucsssion there. | 14:35 |
| mriedem | rpodolyaka: one thing to consider, | 14:36 |
| mriedem | the 1st patch adds tests that are re-used in the 2nd chnage | 14:36 |
| mriedem | *chnage | 14:36 |
| mriedem | damn | 14:36 |
| mdbooth | Is there any reason we keep a per-instance copy of kernel and ramdisk? Seems all instances could share a single copy of those. | 14:36 |
| mriedem | rpodolyaka: so maybe it's best to backport both for completeness | 14:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Hyper-V: adds os-win library https://review.openstack.org/247729 | 14:36 |
| rpodolyaka | mriedem: you mean separately or squash them? | 14:36 |
| mriedem | rpodolyaka: so i'm flip flopping, i think we should just do both backports so it's clean | 14:37 |
| mriedem | the 2nd uses tests from the first, so let's just backport both | 14:37 |
| rpodolyaka | that's was my thinking at first too | 14:37 |
| rpodolyaka | as I wasn't sure what to do with change-id, if I squashed them | 14:37 |
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| sdague | andrearosa: ok, cool | 14:38 |
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| edleafe | jlk: Did you ever get an answer about the scheduler config options? If not, this might help: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247181/ | 14:39 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: dansmith: +2 on these backports https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/liberty+topic:fix_status_reporting,n,z | 14:40 |
| mriedem | we should get those into a liberty point release on stable since they are regressions for local conductor | 14:40 |
| rpodolyaka | thanks mriedem! | 14:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Carlton proposed openstack/nova-specs: Cancel ongoing live migrations https://review.openstack.org/228828 | 14:43 |
| danpb | ndipanov: what does the 'no_device' field in the BlockDevice object do ? | 14:44 |
| andrearosa | danpb: great question! | 14:44 |
| ndipanov | ah right I was gonna write that up | 14:44 |
| ndipanov | I actually thought I did | 14:44 |
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| danpb | it came up a few weeks back while you were on PTO | 14:44 |
| ndipanov | so if you have an image that was create as a snapshot of an instance that had some volumes attached | 14:45 |
| danpb | and we couldn't find a explanation | 14:45 |
| ndipanov | btw another person to ask about this is feodor tersin | 14:45 |
| ndipanov | so in that case | 14:45 |
| ndipanov | if you want to override one of the block devices that got saved in the image | 14:46 |
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| ndipanov | you would set no_device | 14:47 |
| ndipanov | not sure if it works still | 14:47 |
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| danpb | ok | 14:48 |
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| ndipanov | actually it probably works for the newer syntax | 14:49 |
| rqw | mriedem: sorry just disconnected. as for the spec about uefi boot https://review.openstack.org/#/c/235983/? You mentioned that we need 3rd CI to test this feature, and we must prepare the CI with this spec, or there are some others ways to do so? | 14:50 |
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| mriedem | rqw: my concern with that spec is it's reliance on (1) a version of libvirt we don't test against (1.2.8) and (2) the edk2/ovmf packages on the system. ubuntu 14.04 provides ovmf but it looks like one has to build edk2 from source. | 14:51 |
| mriedem | rqw: so this adds another magic path of support in the libvirt driver that we don't test anywhere | 14:52 |
| wznoinsk | claudiub: ping | 14:53 |
| mriedem | actually libvirt 1.2.9 per markus_z's note | 14:53 |
| rqw | mriedem: I see, but it have to based on latest libvirt. For this situation, do you have any suggestion? | 14:53 |
| danpb | mriedem: if ubuntu provides ovmf packages, there's no need to build edk2 - they are essentially one & the same thing | 14:54 |
| rqw | mriedem: I will update the libvirt version in next patch set. | 14:54 |
| danpb | mriedem: edk2 is the broad project providing the open source EFI firmware impl | 14:54 |
| mriedem | danpb: ok, that wasn't clear when i was poking around the packages yesterday | 14:54 |
| danpb | mriedem: ovmf is the specific firmware build of edk2 that targets KVM/QEMU | 14:54 |
| mriedem | and the spec isn't clear on the package dependencies | 14:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Allow sending the migrate data objects over the wire https://review.openstack.org/251588 | 14:54 |
| mriedem | or what distros provide them | 14:54 |
| danpb | mriedem: (on x86_64) - avmf is the firmware build of edk2 that targets QEMU on arm64 | 14:55 |
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| mriedem | danpb: and i can't find that fedora/centos/rhel provides those packages | 14:56 |
| mriedem | i could only find suse and ubuntu | 14:56 |
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| rqw | mriedem: there is ovmf public package in ubuntu, but looks like it have to be gotten from other sources. | 14:58 |
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| danpb | mriedem: we don't ship OVMF yet because intel poisoned the license on the FAT driver :-( | 14:58 |
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| mriedem | danpb: yeah, that's what i read in the fedora site | 14:58 |
| danpb | its going to be resolved soonish because we'll be providing a replacment FAT driver that's actually free software | 14:59 |
| claudiub | wznoinsk: hello | 15:00 |
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| rqw | mriedem: danpb: intel will remove the addition and then will make OVMF a standard part of distributions | 15:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Carlton proposed openstack/nova-specs: Cancel ongoing live migrations https://review.openstack.org/228828 | 15:03 |
| bauzas | sdague: +2 to http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-December/081081.html | 15:03 |
| bauzas | sdague: but I'll reply in there | 15:04 |
| mriedem | rqw: danpb: i've commented in the spec, | 15:04 |
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| bauzas | sdague: because we need to have all the hints to be clear | 15:04 |
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| bauzas | sdague: and because it's an user experience, like for the flavor extra specs or other | 15:04 |
| alex_xu | paul-carlton1: I have one comment at patchset 31, I 'm afraid you missed that | 15:04 |
| wznoinsk | claudiub: any feelings about your spec for instance live resize? doesn't look like a priority for the nova so it has to be approved by tomorrow right? | 15:04 |
| mriedem | rqw: danpb: basically if we can't have a job that tests this (it could be done with community resources since it's all open source dependencies, but someone would have to work on creating that kind of job), and Intel isn't going to provide a 3rd party CI job for this, then we punt on integration testing and i'd want to see a warning in the logs that it's not tested. | 15:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Carlton proposed openstack/nova-specs: Cancel ongoing live migrations https://review.openstack.org/228828 | 15:05 |
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| danpb | mriedem: what would we actually be testing here though | 15:05 |
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| mriedem | that we can boot a vm with a uefi image | 15:06 |
| claudiub | wznoinsk: reading right now. | 15:06 |
| danpb | mriedem: from the host POV the only thing we're changing is adding a firmware path to the QEMU config | 15:06 |
| paul-carlton2 | alex_xu, I thought we agreed to only return live migrations but I can change that | 15:06 |
| paul-carlton2 | We did agree that only live migrations can be cancelled, right? | 15:06 |
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| mriedem | danpb: a different question, is this something you'd see value in calling out in the hypervisor support matrix? | 15:06 |
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| danpb | whether the guest OS does the right thing when run with UEFI is not really nova's direct concern - its the underlying hypervisor platform and/or user's image | 15:07 |
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| alex_xu | paul-carlton2: yes, but I thought we will return all types migration, not sure whether I missed understand some words in the discussion | 15:07 |
| danpb | or to put it another way, are you suggesting that Nova duplicate every single aspect of the hypervisor platform testing matrix | 15:07 |
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| danpb | as that's what it really feels like you're saying here | 15:08 |
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| mriedem | i would like to have as little technical debt as possible | 15:08 |
| paul-carlton2 | alex_xu, I'm happy to return any running migrations and only allow delete on live-migration types | 15:08 |
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| alex_xu | paul-carlton2: ok, thanks, hope everyone happy with that | 15:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Yingxin Cheng proposed openstack/nova: Use stevedore for scheduler host manager https://review.openstack.org/246476 | 15:09 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: danpb: UEFI totally feels like something we should test, I hope to re-kick that feature classification effort at some point when I have the bandwidth | 15:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: trivial: Add some logs to 'numa_topology_filter' https://review.openstack.org/202650 | 15:11 |
| mriedem | i'm just having a hard time parsing what we care about and what we don't | 15:11 |
| mriedem | there is a spec up to add vvol support to the vmware driver, and the spec said they'd make sure tempest was working with vvol storage - but that would mean a new vmware ci job with that config since today the vmware ci uses a different storage type, | 15:12 |
| mriedem | i don't actually expect vmware to stand up a new ci job for that wrinkle | 15:12 |
| mriedem | so at what point do we stop fooling ourselves into thinking we're going to have integration testing | 15:12 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: my suggested approach is to document what we do actually test, so its clear | 15:13 |
| sdague | danpb: is there a reason we wouldn't manage the uefi loader as a glance artifact, like the ami partial images? | 15:13 |
| mriedem | at a minimum, that's what i've said in this uefi spec - that if we don't test it, we shoudl log a warning if it's used that it's not tested | 15:13 |
| mriedem | so i don't have to claim to support it | 15:13 |
| sdague | it seems a little weird to require pushing that out to every compute and specific a new conf file location | 15:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: and also document what is documented, as odd as it sounds | 15:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Carlton proposed openstack/nova-specs: Cancel ongoing live migrations https://review.openstack.org/228828 | 15:13 |
| danpb | sdague: IMHO firmware images are part of the hypervisor platform and not something the user should be uploading | 15:14 |
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| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: as you know, I don't think having a bunch of "experimental" features that we seem to support but don't if they break is a good idea | 15:14 |
| danpb | sdague: its kind of like saying the user should be allowed to upload kernel modules for the host to load | 15:14 |
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| mriedem | there was also concern over supporting rbd encryption with the kernel module before native qemu supports encryption for rbd, but at least we have a job that tests it and shows that the encryption tests worked with the patch on ceph | 15:14 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: as cellsv1 proves, people expect things to work, even if we log a giant message that says they may be broken, and they expect them to work with our other features we do, like live upgrade | 15:14 |
| sdague | danpb: ok, so if it's part of the hypervisor platform, why is a nova.conf var needed for it | 15:14 |
| danpb | sdague: in addition the user should not even have visibility into what hypervisor version the cloudis running | 15:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: well step two is deprecating all the untested stuff, and actually removing it | 15:15 |
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| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: true | 15:15 |
| danpb | sdague: that's mostly because different distros have not all put the firmware in the same place | 15:15 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: deprecating features is much harder than not adding them in the first place :/ | 15:15 |
| danpb | sdague: nova should do the right thing out of the box for distros like ubunut, fedora, etc | 15:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: oh I see your point, true | 15:15 |
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| danpb | sdague: but the config file lets you configure it on other obscure distros that may have used a different location | 15:15 |
| bauzas | yeah it's always an upgrade impact when we deprecate vs. just a feature comment when we add | 15:15 |
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| paul-carlton2 | johnthetubaguy, the only issue outstanding now I think is your comment about the migration state being set to aborted rather than failed when it is aborted. I guess you are right that we should do this but we can work out how to do this during implementation if that is important. | 15:16 |
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| mriedem | the apparent wild west among the distros for ovmf is also concerning to me in this spec | 15:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | paul-carlton2: thats a nit, we can come back and fix that if everyone else is cool with the other details | 15:16 |
| danpb | sdague: i'd not be adverse to leaving out the config parameter - it just felt it was slightly nicer to allow it for sake of distro portability | 15:16 |
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| sdague | yeh, the config param is the only thing that's concerning me honestly, just because people are going to set it if we put it there, and it's mostly a way to mess things up | 15:17 |
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| sdague | if they are on an oddball distro they can have config management build them some symlinks | 15:17 |
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| mriedem | here is another one on testing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/243633/4/specs/mitaka/approved/vmware-vvol-support.rst | 15:27 |
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| sdague | mriedem: yeh, manual runs is a bad story | 15:28 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: what about a post merge job, I guess, as a compromise solution? With the obvious issue that if we can't keep the ever merge job green, we are less likely to keep the post merge job green. | 15:29 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: we talked about post-merge jobs in paris and nothing ever came out of that | 15:29 |
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| dansmith | the problem with that especially for third-party stuff, | 15:29 |
| dansmith | is that we have nowhere for it to be very visible | 15:29 |
| dansmith | we are usually the ones pointing out that a particular test bot is broken | 15:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Pawel Koniszewski proposed openstack/nova-specs: Pause VM during live migration as migration action https://review.openstack.org/252352 | 15:30 |
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| dansmith | because we want to see it on a patch and don't, or notice it's breaking a lot | 15:30 |
| mriedem | it sounds like at least asselin is making progress on a universal 3rd party ci framework, but not all third party ci are hooked into that, and i'm not sure what it's plan for reporting is | 15:30 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: OK, not heard about that, thats a good start | 15:30 |
| mriedem | yeah, i'm pretty sure xenxserver ci was down for a day this week with mirror issues | 15:30 |
| dansmith | some unified place would be a good start for sure | 15:31 |
| sdague | mtreinish: is this stuff in openstack health yet? | 15:31 |
| mriedem | BobBall: btw, where is your fancy zuul status page for xenserver ci? i couldn't find that link from the third party systems ci wiki | 15:31 |
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| johnthetubaguy | what about if we block all patches on the post merge jobs being green, at that point it should get more attention | 15:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Ryan Moore proposed openstack/nova: config options: centralize section: "rdp" https://review.openstack.org/252389 | 15:32 |
| mriedem | step 1 is having post merge jobs | 15:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | like the third party only votes +1 if all the post merge jobs are currently green, etc | 15:32 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: I would prefer blocking patches on the third party CI jobs first, but yes, thats true | 15:32 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: i do that already for the virt drivers | 15:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Pawel Koniszewski proposed openstack/nova-specs: Pause VM during live migration as migration action https://review.openstack.org/252352 | 15:33 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: so I do manually, but it would be nice if it were automated | 15:33 |
| sdague | http://status.openstack.org/openstack-health/#/ - mtreinish was going to announce this later this week once some db issues are resolved | 15:33 |
| mriedem | BobBall: can you update https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ThirdPartySystems/XenServer_CI to add the xenserver ci zuul status page? | 15:33 |
| sdague | it doesn't seem to have the 3rd party stuff in it yet, but I think that was part of the scope | 15:33 |
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| mmedvede | fyi, I am working to get ci dashboard deployed to infra, it can be used to derive a CI status, one instance is currently running here http://ci-watch.tintri.com/project?project=nova&time=7+days | 15:34 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: thats looking good | 15:34 |
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| sdague | mmedvede: it would be much better if you actually provided aggregate statistics | 15:45 |
| sdague | like pass / fail / mia | 15:45 |
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| mmedvede | sdague: it is in plans, now we want to get something deployed first. The codebase needs a bit of hardening, tests, etc. | 15:47 |
| mdbooth | Does this change ring any bells for anyone: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/21270/ ? | 15:47 |
| mdbooth | Why would backing files be missing? | 15:47 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: mriedem: (and others) could you please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/251844/ asap between all the netsplits? | 16:47 |
| bauzas | we need to ask pbr to look at the git tag rather than just the provided version | 16:47 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: heh we just hit 100 tags in the nova repo | 16:47 |
| bauzas | :) | 16:48 |
| mriedem | danpb: re: the native qemu encryption stuff, any idea what the migration path looks like for existing iscsi/fc encrypted volumes to move to that? | 16:48 |
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| danpb | mriedem: well the main pre-requisite would be having a new enough libvirt + qemu | 16:49 |
| mriedem | bauzas: done, i thought we'd already done that actually, but that was stable/liberty | 16:49 |
| danpb | mriedem: and second, that the qemu impl provide the same featureset (in terms of available cipher algorith, cipher mode and IV generators) as dm-crypt | 16:49 |
| bauzas | mriedem: johnthetubaguy: coolness | 16:50 |
| danpb | there's only one hard bit left to address for the second point - 'xts' cipher mode for which i haven't found acceptable code to merge in qemu yet | 16:50 |
| danpb | so assuming that's solved, then a regular live migration to host with new qemu should be sufficient to switch to new encryption impl | 16:50 |
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| mriedem | danpb: ok, apparently there are people here that are willing to help work on that if you have things that need helping, they want to accelerate the native qemu encryption stuff if that's the path forward for rbd encryption | 16:51 |
| danpb | the biggest immediate thing to accelerate it would be if they have qemu devs who can provide technical reviews of the patches | 16:51 |
| mriedem | ok | 16:52 |
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| danpb | as qemu core reviewers are just as overloaded as nova reviewers are :-) | 16:52 |
| mriedem | and it's just a live migration to the newer libvirt/qemu node and everything magically works? the instane doesn't need to be rebooted or any code changes to nova for this? | 16:52 |
| mriedem | *instance | 16:52 |
| danpb | the use of encryption is invisible to the guest | 16:52 |
| danpb | its purely a backend setup change, so no reboot should be needed | 16:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Samuel Matzek proposed openstack/nova: WIP API extension to allow modification of BDMs https://review.openstack.org/252514 | 16:53 |
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| mriedem | ok, i had thought you said something in zoltan's spec about needing to reboot the instance on upgrade to migrate | 16:53 |
| mriedem | to migrate off dm-crypt | 16:53 |
| danpb | hmm, did i | 16:53 |
| danpb | if i did that's a mistake or a mis-phrasing | 16:54 |
| cfriesen | for cold migration currently we unconditionally merge the qcow2 image with it's backing store prior to copying it across the network to the destination. Has anyone thought about just copying the delta file if the backing file already exists on the destination? Seems like it could be a win for instance that haven't written much to their rootfs. | 16:54 |
| danpb | mriedem: at most qemu needs restarting, which would be a save+restore, or a live migrate | 16:54 |
| mriedem | maybe it was chet that mentioned reboot | 16:54 |
| danpb | btw, the qemu patchset is here https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2015-11/msg04748.html | 16:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Pawel Koniszewski proposed openstack/nova: Allow block live migration of an instance with attached volumes https://review.openstack.org/227278 | 16:55 |
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| mriedem | danpb: ok, so even just pulling that down and testing it out would be helpful | 16:55 |
| kashyap | cfriesen: There are mechanisms in libvirt that allows you to reuse an existing image ('--reuse-external'). An example here - https://kashyapc.fedorapeople.org/virt/infra.next-2015/Live-blockcopy-while-reusing-existing-destination.txt | 16:56 |
| danpb | mriedem: sure, that too | 16:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Samuel Matzek proposed openstack/nova: WIP API extension to allow modification of BDMs https://review.openstack.org/252514 | 16:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pawel Koniszewski proposed openstack/nova: Enable live migration with iso9660 config drive format https://review.openstack.org/234659 | 16:57 |
| mriedem | danpb: the reboot thing came from here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/239798/3/specs/mitaka/approved/rbd-volume-encryption.rst | 16:57 |
| mriedem | "In addition the only way to switch a guest is to shut it down and start it again. Historically we've allowed for Nova to be upgraded with *existing* VMs remaining active." | 16:57 |
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| cfriesen | kashyap: actually, looking at the current master this may be dealt with already. stable/kilo unconditionally merges the backing file, but current master just calls libvirt_utils.copy_image() | 17:00 |
| danpb | mriedem: oh, right - that's refering to the case where you upgrade nova-compute on a host without live-migrating VMs off to another node first | 17:00 |
| danpb | mriedem: although that's not our recommended upgrade path, its something we've allowed for in future | 17:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: Add service status notification https://review.openstack.org/245678 | 17:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: Add infra for versioned notifications https://review.openstack.org/247024 | 17:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: Adds json sample for the versioned notifications https://review.openstack.org/248167 | 17:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: Make emitting versioned notifications configurable https://review.openstack.org/247564 | 17:00 |
| danpb | mriedem: which would mean that Nova would have to continue to cope with pre-existing VMs with old encryption setup for an undefined time going forward | 17:01 |
| mriedem | danpb: ok, yeah, so in that case you upgrade libvirt/qemu on the host and have running vm's with the dm-crypt encryption, to use qemu native you'd need to reboot those vm's, right? | 17:01 |
| mriedem | oh | 17:01 |
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| danpb | well somehow get QEMU process re-created | 17:01 |
| danpb | a hard reboot does that, as does a managed save + restore or a shelve+unshelve, etc | 17:01 |
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| mriedem | so even with the native qemu encryption, we won't be able to remove the existing dm-crypt paths it sounds like | 17:01 |
| danpb | at least not for a few releases potentially | 17:02 |
| danpb | we don't really have an officially set out policy for how much grace time we allow | 17:02 |
| danpb | also note, we have to wait for us to raise the min required qemu+libvirt version before we can even consider dropping the old code path | 17:03 |
| mriedem | yeah, that could be tricky, especially if min libvirt is not at the version that supports qemu native encryption | 17:03 |
| mriedem | yeah | 17:03 |
| danpb | which would be many years in itself | 17:03 |
| mriedem | right | 17:03 |
| mriedem | so having said all that... :) | 17:03 |
| danpb | which is the main reason I really wanted to limit further encryption support to people who've deployed new qemu to start with | 17:03 |
| mriedem | the rbd encryption thing that zoltan was lobbying for doesn't sound all that awful, at least to me, given how far out the qemu native stuff can be used, at least in distros that support those versions of libvirt/qemu | 17:03 |
| kashyap | cfriesen: Yeah, guess you're looking at the function migrate_disk_and_power_off() | 17:04 |
| mriedem | danpb: but wouldn't his rbd thing be in the same boat as what we have today for iscsi/fc? | 17:04 |
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| danpb | mriedem: supporting 2 different RBD clients is a major undertaking | 17:04 |
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| danpb | with iSCSI we already use the in-kernel iSCSI client | 17:05 |
| mriedem | i guess i'm not clear on that point - i know you need krbd to get the encryption to work, but does that mess up the other paths using rbd in the code? | 17:05 |
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| danpb | mriedem: it can do yes, if you have some tools using direct RBD client connections and other tools using the kernel paths and you're not correctly flushing kenrel i/o bufers | 17:06 |
| mriedem | we also have the qemu native iscsi support, although it's not in any distros | 17:06 |
| danpb | you can see inconsistencies between tools depending on the i/o path | 17:06 |
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| danpb | yeah eventually we'll want to switch to in-qemu support for iscsi, but that's a way off becase of current lack of multipath | 17:06 |
| mriedem | hence the thread with cinder people | 17:07 |
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| danpb | we've no way of avoiding support for 2 separate iscsi clients long term | 17:07 |
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| danpb | but for RBD we've always used the in-qemu client, so adding in kernel RBD is taking a step backwards | 17:07 |
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| mriedem | ok, i guess my main concern is waiting for distros to pick up libvirt/qemu that has all of that support to make native qemu encryption work for qemu, | 17:08 |
| mriedem | i realize people can roll their own libvirt/qemu, but i'm assuming most would prefer not to | 17:08 |
| mriedem | and don't want to pay for RHEL OSP | 17:08 |
| mtanino | johnthetubaguy: Hi, May I ask a question about your comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/241065/1 ? | 17:08 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mtanino: yes | 17:09 |
| danpb | mriedem: well from a RHEL pov we rebase qemu so we'll get that into RHEL pretty quickly | 17:09 |
| danpb | mriedem: ubuntu provide their cloud-archive add-on repo for their LTS releases which get new QEMU pretty quickly too | 17:09 |
| danpb | of course for the non-LTS distros its a non-issue as they're always on the bleeding edge | 17:10 |
| mtanino | johnthetubaguy: I thought adding volume_type does not break backward compatibility, but even if that case, Nova don't want to expand current API? | 17:10 |
| mriedem | yeah, i'm assuming here that people aren't running production clouds on fedora | 17:10 |
| mriedem | :) | 17:10 |
| danpb | so IMHO between RHEL qemu rebases and Ubunu LTS cloud-archive the delay is not actually that long | 17:10 |
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| mriedem | danpb: ok, well this clears some things up, thanks. i'll circle back with folks interested in this and see what they can help with on the qemu work. | 17:11 |
| danpb | i agree it would be a non-starter if people had to wait till RHEL-8 or a future major Ubuntu LTS release, but they won't have to AFAICT | 17:11 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mtanino: its really an API I would like to see is deprecate (and remove in a new micro version), rather than expand it | 17:11 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mtanino: it was a similar spec that we previously rejected that made me write the "no more API proxies" section of that scope document I linked | 17:12 |
| mtanino | johnthetubaguy: ah, it's an current Nova's plan, and after that (1) user create a volume (2) pass the UUIID to Nova (3) Boot up | 17:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | mtanino: ideally yes, similar to neutron ports | 17:13 |
| mtanino | johnthetubaguy: I see. It'a policy of the project. | 17:13 |
| mtanino | johnthetubaguy: Thank you for taking a time. | 17:14 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mtanino: now there are usability issues that need solving here, but we are really saying the suggested change to the Nova API seems like the wrong way to approach fixing that problem | 17:14 |
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| mtanino | johnthetubaguy: Which usability issue? | 17:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chuck Carmack proposed openstack/nova: Disable security group tests in tempest-dsvm-cells-rc using a config option https://review.openstack.org/226043 | 17:20 |
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| jaypipes | alaski, dansmith, ndipanov: if I wanted to add a new table for "resource_classes" -- basically just a simple lookup table for the types of quantitative things that a user can request -- would the nova.db.sqlalchemy.api_models place be the right module to put that in? or the nova.db.sqlalchemy.models module? | 17:24 |
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| dansmith | jaypipes: depends on which database it needs to be in | 17:24 |
| alaski | jaypipes: api_models is for tables in the new top cell db | 17:24 |
| jaypipes | alaski, dansmith: this is like global lookup stuff... so I would think api_models, right? | 17:25 |
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| dansmith | jaypipes: only accessed by the api, or also from computes? | 17:25 |
| dansmith | jaypipes: meaning, does the data come from computes? | 17:25 |
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| alaski | it will also be helpful to know who's reading the data | 17:26 |
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| dansmith | and why | 17:26 |
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| dansmith | because if it's about computes, then it might should be sharded into the cell db and not at the top layer | 17:26 |
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| jaypipes | alaski, dansmith: the compute nodes would get a set of nova.object.InventoryItem object which would contain a field called resource_class which would be of type fields.ResourceClassField (an enum of thing like "cpu", "ram", etc). The resource_classes DB table would have a numeric identifier along with the string name ("cpu", "ram", etc) for the resource class. | 17:27 |
| jaypipes | alaski, dansmith: the alternative would be to have a constant mapping of string to integer codes for the resource classes. | 17:28 |
| jaypipes | alaski: but I think having lookup tables in the database is a little nicer. | 17:28 |
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| jaypipes | another area that I will need to create a database "at the global level" is for a standardized table of capabilities (host caps, CPU caps, etc) that may be exposed by various resource providers. | 17:29 |
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| jaypipes | I figured the api_models would be the appropriate place for such things. | 17:29 |
| alaski | if I'm understanding correctly then those sound like they would go in the api db. They're like flavors in that they're shared globally. | 17:30 |
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| alaski | what we don't want in that db is the resource counts from every compute | 17:31 |
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| jaypipes | alaski: exactly. the inventory counts are not in the api DB. | 17:32 |
| jaypipes | alaski: it's just the global lookup table. | 17:32 |
| jaypipes | alaski: "type tables" | 17:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Tracy Jones proposed openstack/nova: Cleanup of compute api reboot method https://review.openstack.org/127427 | 17:32 |
| alaski | okay. then api_models would be the right place, and there's a separate api_migrations folder as well | 17:33 |
| claudiub|2 | jaypipes: alaski: hi. I have a spec on something similar, about exposing the host capabilities, if you want to take a look: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/222200/ | 17:33 |
| jaypipes | claudiub|2: yup, it's on my radar. :) it's actually partly got me thinking about these things. | 17:33 |
| claudiub|2 | jaypipes: cool :) | 17:34 |
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| alaski | claudiub|2: cool, it's in my tab queue | 17:35 |
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| jaypipes | alaski: how are migrations for the API database handled and tested? | 17:36 |
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| alaski | jaypipes: you write them the same way, just in a different directory, and there's a 'nova-manage api_db sync' command to run them. There are tests in the functional test dir | 17:37 |
| jaypipes | alaski: gotcha. ty sir. | 17:37 |
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| jlk | edleafe: I did not. | 17:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Radoslav Gerganov proposed openstack/nova-specs: VMware: add support for Virtual Volumes https://review.openstack.org/243633 | 17:38 |
| edleafe | jlk: well let me know if that doc update helps | 17:39 |
| jlk | edleafe: my main question was whether or not a client could request a filter by way of a hint. By default all filters are "available", but only some are "default". I wanted a client to be able to use a hint to request use of a non-default filter. | 17:39 |
| ccarmack | mriedem: my patch to remove py26 support from python-novaclient failed on the py26 gate job: http://logs.openstack.org/74/248874/4/gate/gate-python-novaclient-python26/5e861d6/console.html | 17:39 |
| jlk | edleafe: I'll read through the PR. | 17:39 |
| jlk | s/PR/review/ | 17:39 |
| ccarmack | mriedem: should I remove that gate? | 17:39 |
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| mriedem | ccarmack: heh.... | 17:39 |
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| mriedem | ccarmack: yeah, we'd need a project-config change to no longer run the py26 job on novaclient in master | 17:39 |
| ccarmack | mriedem: I suppose that was to be expected | 17:40 |
| mriedem | and your novaclient change would have to depend on that | 17:40 |
| ccarmack | got it | 17:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Ed Leafe proposed openstack/nova: docs: update services description for concept guide https://review.openstack.org/248454 | 17:40 |
| jlk | edleafe: the docs in the review are still unclear as to who can do the "individual requests" to use other filters | 17:40 |
| tjones | markus_z: ok to put https://review.openstack.org/248963 on the ready for core review list?? | 17:41 |
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| tjones | ha nevermind - i see you did it already | 17:41 |
| tjones | thanks | 17:41 |
| melwitt | mriedem ccarmack: did this not do the removal? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/252256/ | 17:41 |
| markus_z | tjones: :) | 17:41 |
| tjones | on to the next one! | 17:41 |
| markus_z | tjones: thanks again for helping here! | 17:41 |
| tjones | having fun | 17:42 |
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| melwitt | markus_z: to your message from yesterday, I agree https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1497076 is resolved | 17:42 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1497076 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Unable to delete an instance due to foreign key violation" [Undecided,New] | 17:42 |
| mriedem | melwitt: - name: python-jobs | 17:42 |
| mriedem | includes py26 i think | 17:42 |
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| melwitt | oh | 17:43 |
| mriedem | i'm checking | 17:43 |
| markus_z | melwitt: cool, thanks for your feedback! | 17:43 |
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| mriedem | tjones: garyk: alaski: i'm +2 on this now https://review.openstack.org/#/c/243633/ | 17:43 |
| mriedem | tjones: garyk: be aware that radoslav signed vmware up for a new CI job in there | 17:44 |
| mriedem | tjones: garyk: but it seems that'd be in vmware's best interest anyway to test on vc 6 and use nsx rather than nova-net | 17:44 |
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| edleafe | jlk: that should be the user's request, but a quick review of the code doesn't show how that's done | 17:44 |
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| tjones | mriedem: yes i saw that! we are discussing moving to 6.0 | 17:45 |
| tjones | agree it's time | 17:45 |
| tjones | thanks | 17:45 |
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| mriedem | melwitt: ccarmack: https://github.com/openstack-infra/project-config/blob/master/jenkins/jobs/python-jobs.yaml#L516 | 17:47 |
| ccarmack | melwitt: looks like it did | 17:50 |
| paul-carlton1 | johnthetubaguy, andrearosa good news, calling jobabort on a live migrating libvirt instance generates a cancelled by client exception | 17:51 |
| paul-carlton1 | so we can just catch that and set the state to aborted rather than failed | 17:51 |
| paul-carlton1 | 2015-12-02 17:48:27.075 ERROR nova.virt.libvirt.driver [req-3ab98125-d0ce-4609-8b12-d0f87ba5535f admin admin] [instance: a0c0d88e-baa7-46b7-90bf-d4606ec480b0] Live Migration failure: operation aborted: migration out: canceled by client | 17:51 |
| mriedem | ccarmack: do you know how to make the project-config change here or want me to? | 17:51 |
| ccarmack | mriedem: I thought https://review.openstack.org/#/c/252256/1/zuul/layout.yaml removed it? | 17:52 |
| andrearosa | paul-carlton1: good! | 17:52 |
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| mriedem | ccarmack: no, it doesn't, see my comment in there | 17:52 |
| jlk | edleafe: that's what we ran into. | 17:52 |
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| edleafe | bauzas: can you help with jlk's question? | 17:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: docs: add the concept of Feature Classification https://review.openstack.org/215664 | 17:53 |
| ccarmack | mriedem: ok, let me try the project config change | 17:53 |
| jlk | edleafe: We have all filters "available", but trying to request one from the client didn't work. I had to explicitly add the filter to the default list. | 17:53 |
| andrearosa | paul-carlton1: I am +1 the spec, are you going to put a new PS with the exception details? | 17:53 |
| edleafe | bauzas: how does a request specify the filters to be used for that request? Or is it not possible? | 17:53 |
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| rgerganov | sdague: could you elaborate your question on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/228778/ | 17:54 |
| edleafe | jlk: well, the default list is only supposed to be used if filters aren't specified | 17:54 |
| mriedem | ccarmack: you need something like this: https://github.com/openstack-infra/project-config/blob/master/zuul/layout.yaml#L2039-L2040 | 17:54 |
| edleafe | jlk: now that I'm looking, I don't see where they could be | 17:54 |
| jlk | edleafe: you'd think. | 17:54 |
| mriedem | so that it only runs on the juno/kilo/liberty branches | 17:54 |
| edleafe | jlk: certainly not in the nova boot command in novaclient | 17:54 |
| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: docs: add test strategy and feature classification https://review.openstack.org/215664 | 17:55 |
| mriedem | ccarmack: *kilo/liberty for novaclient, we don't have a juno branch | 17:55 |
| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: docs: add test strategy and feature classification https://review.openstack.org/215664 | 17:55 |
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| paul-carlton1 | maybe | 17:56 |
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| jlk | edleafe: yeah, all we can do is provide a hint. I /thought/ that since you name a filter in your hint, that the system would pick up that filter and use it. Alas, reality doth not match | 17:56 |
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| ccarmack | mriedem: ok, let me try it | 17:57 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: dansmith: attempted to update the above to clarify why we care about testing, and gives talks about a process to get out of our current testing hole | 17:58 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: dansmith: the above being: https://review.openstack.org/215664 | 17:58 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: okay, I'll throw it on the pile.. | 17:59 |
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| edleafe | jlk: no, hints are specific to filters that look for them: http://paste.openstack.org/show/480667/ | 17:59 |
| jlk | yup | 17:59 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: thanks, open to a different direction, but want to start moving forward on the testing | 18:00 |
| jlk | edleafe: does the API itself allow for providing a filter, along with the hints for said filter? | 18:00 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: did you say process hole? | 18:00 |
| sdague | rgerganov: you said you are changing the tokens | 18:00 |
| mriedem | oh testing hole | 18:00 |
| mriedem | just tell them to cram it in their testing hole | 18:00 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mriedem :p | 18:00 |
| sdague | maybe if the spec better explained before "x y z happens" and after "z w p happens" including REST urls and json snippets | 18:00 |
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| rgerganov | sdague: the API is the same, we are just enabling it for all types of console tokens | 18:01 |
| edleafe | jlk: not that I can see :( | 18:02 |
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| sdague | rgerganov: I guess I don't understand that statement | 18:02 |
| markus_z | mriedem: There is a stable/kilo bug where I'm not sure if this is a serious one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1516671 | 18:02 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1516671 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "LiveMigration DBError: ProgrammingError: can't adapt type 'Instance'" [Undecided,New] | 18:02 |
| rgerganov | sdague: currently ConsoleAuth API works only for RDP | 18:02 |
| mriedem | what does "can't adapt type 'Instance'" mean in postgres? | 18:03 |
| edleafe | jlk: here's the compute/api.py create method signature: http://paste.openstack.org/show/480668/ | 18:03 |
| sdague | rgerganov: can you put in the spec the current resource actions, and what happens, and what you are reflecting as different | 18:03 |
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| jlk | edleafe: yeah, so I'm still unclear how the enabled filters interacts with default filters, from a user point of view :) | 18:05 |
| edleafe | jlk: now I am too | 18:05 |
| mriedem | markus_z: marked as incomplete, need to know what versions of postgres/sqlalchemy | 18:06 |
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| rgerganov | sdague: All I want is to remove this if statement: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/openstack/compute/console_auth_tokens.py#L49 | 18:07 |
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| sdague | rgerganov: ok, then say that. It seems like a lot of words that don't really say that. | 18:08 |
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| rgerganov | sigh ... ok | 18:08 |
| markus_z | mriedem: ok, thanks | 18:08 |
| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: docs: ensure third party tests pass before +2 https://review.openstack.org/252543 | 18:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: dansmith: another related one, so we are clear out our policy | 18:09 |
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| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: ooh, I like that one | 18:11 |
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| mriedem | does the nsx ci actually vote, or only +! | 18:13 |
| mriedem | +1, but not -1 on failure | 18:13 |
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| mriedem | i'm having a hard time finding an nsx ci +1 on a recent patch set | 18:13 |
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| mriedem | i guess it does https://review.openstack.org/#/c/249141/ | 18:14 |
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| mriedem | huh, no bp for this series i see https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:libvirt-clean2,n,z | 18:16 |
| mriedem | seems like a lot of refactor to not have a bp | 18:16 |
| danpb | if we're going to honour 3rd party CI | 18:17 |
| danpb | then it feels like we need to have some much better infra to tell us when each 3rd party CI is actually working | 18:17 |
| markus_z | speaking of blueprints, can I interest someone in this one? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/234291/ :) | 18:18 |
| danpb | too often they're broken for days or weeks without most reviewers even knowing | 18:18 |
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| mriedem | commented on that | 18:20 |
| mriedem | it could be clarified i think to say there is a minimum bar | 18:20 |
| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: docs: add test strategy and feature classification https://review.openstack.org/215664 | 18:20 |
| garyk | mriedem: thanks! we are in the process of getting our duck ins a lne… | 18:22 |
| garyk | mriedem: hopefully we will have the ready in the near future | 18:23 |
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| mriedem | garyk: will that be capable of running with nsx for networking? | 18:23 |
| garyk | mriedem: yes, most certainly | 18:23 |
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| garyk | at the moment we just need to sort out a few things with our infra and we will be able to get this up and running. | 18:24 |
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| tojuvone | About the CI, just was wondering today that would be nice to know if some CI has worked in previous runs for other changes. | 18:43 |
| mriedem | tojuvone: that is in the review history | 18:44 |
| tojuvone | dansmith: I would have something new for get-valid-server-state https://review.openstack.org/241562 | 18:44 |
| mriedem | in gerrit, if they reported in | 18:44 |
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| tojuvone | mriedem: ok, so can find out. Like was really wondering if some CI just happens to be broken. | 18:46 |
| mriedem | tojuvone: some are just broken, yeah | 18:47 |
| mriedem | http://ci-watch.tintri.com/project?project=nova | 18:47 |
| mriedem | http://ci-watch.tintri.com/project?project=nova&time=48+hours | 18:48 |
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| tojuvone | mriedem: Great, that might help sometimes. Like now :) | 18:50 |
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| mirrorbox | garyk: hi, are you around? | 18:58 |
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| garyk | mirrorbox: i think so | 19:00 |
| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: docs: ensure third party tests pass before +2 https://review.openstack.org/252543 | 19:00 |
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| mirrorbox | garyk: just want to ask about the way host resources are calculated in the vmware driver | 19:01 |
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| bauzas | edleafe: jlk: sorry, I'm a bit off this evening | 19:01 |
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| garyk | mirrorbox: sorry in a meeting. can we talk about this tomorrow | 19:02 |
| mirrorbox | garyk: so here https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/virt/vmwareapi/host.py#L35 it appears to pick only one of the usable datastores instead of using aggregated stats, is my understanding correct? | 19:02 |
| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: docs: ensure third party tests pass before +2 https://review.openstack.org/252543 | 19:02 |
| mirrorbox | garyk: ah, sure, I'll poke you tomorrow then :) | 19:02 |
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| garyk | ok cool | 19:05 |
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| jlk | bauzas: no worries, basically confusion as to how the enabled_filters setting actually works, in conjunction with default_filters and user requests for boot. | 19:07 |
| bauzas | jlk: have you seen sdague's email this EU afternoon ? | 19:07 |
| bauzas | jlk: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-December/081081.html | 19:07 |
| jlk | bauzas: I have not, is that to nova-devel? (I'm not on said list) | 19:07 |
| bauzas | jlk: yeah | 19:07 |
| jlk | bauzas: related, but not quite the same | 19:08 |
| bauzas | jlk: so what's your question then ? | 19:08 |
| jlk | bauzas: related in that you can't pass a hint to a filter that's not listed in default_filters | 19:08 |
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| bauzas | jlk: you can | 19:08 |
| jlk | bauzas: The docs (even Ed's change which clarifies a lot of stuff) seem to indicate that enabled_filters is a list of potential filters to use, and default_fitlers are just what will be used unless others are requested | 19:09 |
| jlk | bauzas: but I see no way (outside of a hint) to request a filter be used | 19:09 |
| bauzas | jlk: oh so you wonder what's the difference between default_filters and enabled_filters, right? | 19:09 |
| jlk | and even with a hint, there appears no way to tell it "hey use this filter" | 19:09 |
| bauzas | ah I see your question, no it's not fine to ask for a specific filter for many reasons | 19:10 |
| bauzas | #1 because it could leak the deployment for an user | 19:10 |
| bauzas | #2 because hints are only the UX side of something internal, exactly like are aggregate metadata and flavor extra specs | 19:11 |
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| bauzas | so you can pass an hint like https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/1734ce7101982dd95f8fab1ab4815bd258a33744/nova/api/openstack/compute/schemas/scheduler_hints.py#L56 but that doesn't guarantee that the deployment will run the AffinityFilter | 19:12 |
| bauzas | jlk: ^ | 19:13 |
| bauzas | jlk: I'm sorry I really need to drop off, but we could discuss on that tomorrow same time if you wish | 19:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | David Edery proposed openstack/nova: ports & networks gather should validate existance https://review.openstack.org/252565 | 19:20 |
| vilobhmm11 | johnthetubaguy : ping | 19:22 |
| vilobhmm11 | 19:23 | |
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| edleafe | bauzas: sorry, I was afk for a while | 19:24 |
| edleafe | bauzas: but when you read the scrollback, the question is how can any request use anything *besides* the default_filters? | 19:25 |
| edleafe | bauzas: In http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/filter_scheduler.html is talking about how to add your custom filter. | 19:26 |
| edleafe | bauzas: but it says at the end of that part "With these settings, nova will use the FilterScheduler for the scheduler driver. The standard nova filters and MyFilter are available to the FilterScheduler. The RamFilter, ComputeFilter, and MyFilter are used by default when no filters are specified in the request." | 19:26 |
| edleafe | bauzas: so the question is, how can you specify filters in a request? | 19:26 |
| sdague | mriedem: you seen this - http://logs.openstack.org/29/247729/9/check/gate-grenade-dsvm-multinode/825ce94/logs/old/screen-n-cpu.txt.gz?level=TRACE#_2015-12-02_18_07_35_489 | 19:27 |
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| sdague | boot from volume fail because the volume is no good | 19:28 |
| mriedem | sdague: i feel like i have | 19:28 |
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| mriedem | but i've seen a lot of things | 19:28 |
| mriedem | cue 'nam flashback | 19:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hans Lindgren proposed openstack/nova: Remove unnecessary extra instance saves during resize https://review.openstack.org/245746 | 19:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Hans Lindgren proposed openstack/nova: Remove Instance object flavor helper methods only used in tests https://review.openstack.org/245747 | 19:29 |
| alaski | edleafe: jlk I don't believe there is a way to specify which filters are used in a request. The conf options tell Nova which filters to run for all requests, and user input does not modify that | 19:30 |
| edleafe | alaski: that does seem to be the case | 19:30 |
| edleafe | alaski: but docs and even the naming of the options suggest that it is possible | 19:31 |
| alaski | yeah the docs are a bit confusing about it | 19:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Sudipta Biswas proposed openstack/nova-specs: Optimize NUMA topology based deploys on PowerPC https://review.openstack.org/251296 | 19:33 |
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| jlk | alaski: edleafe: if that is the case, then what is the purpose of the difference between available_filters and default_filters? | 19:33 |
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| jlk | why isn't it just a single list of "filters to run" | 19:33 |
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| sdague | mriedem: it seems all find and good here - http://logs.openstack.org/29/247729/9/check/gate-grenade-dsvm-multinode/825ce94/logs/old/screen-c-vol.txt.gz#_2015-12-02_18_05_40_861 | 19:34 |
| alaski | jlk: as far as I can tell available_filters lets you specify a module/method that returns multiple filters and default_filters lets you narrow that list down | 19:34 |
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| edleafe | alaski: jlk: that's what the original intent was | 19:34 |
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| edleafe | alaski: jlk: and the reason for the two was that it was at some point possible to specify filters per-request | 19:35 |
| jlk | alaski: ahh, so module name vs class name | 19:35 |
| edleafe | alaski: jlk: the only restriction was that the requested filters had to be in available_filters | 19:35 |
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| edleafe | alaski: jlk: since that is no longer the case, we should probably just have a single option | 19:36 |
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| jlk | yeah, I kind of like that idea, because you could have a pile of available filters that only get used if a user requests them, rather than making every build go through every filter. | 19:36 |
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| edleafe | jlk: but the filters are for the benefit of the cloud provider | 19:37 |
| edleafe | jlk: they want to use their resources as efficiently as possible | 19:37 |
| edleafe | jlk: so it makes sense not to let a user override | 19:37 |
| jlk | edleafe: uh | 19:37 |
| jlk | edleafe: may of the filters are for the benefit of the client, not the provider | 19:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Allow sending the migrate data objects over the wire https://review.openstack.org/251588 | 19:38 |
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| alaski | there are really two classes of filter. compute and ram filters should not be affected by the user request, but something that only works with a scheduler hint could be. though I think most of those just short circuit if no scheduler hint is provided | 19:40 |
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| alaski | so I'm not sure there's much benefit to only running those if a user requests it | 19:40 |
| sdague | yeh, I though the filters were reasonable smart that way | 19:41 |
| sdague | if not, that's the fix | 19:41 |
| edleafe | jlk: the filters may fine-tune for a client, but a provider would never let the user control placement if it wasted resoruces | 19:41 |
| sdague | not making users guess that computes schedule faster if they do or don't give certain params | 19:41 |
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| edleafe | alaski: so should I enter this as a bug? For both docs and the config options? | 19:42 |
| jlk | edleafe: think about a private cloud, we want to let our users fill their cloud however they want. | 19:43 |
| alaski | The docs, yes. I don't think the config options are a bug, just unintuitive. that's more bp territory as deprecation needs to be considered | 19:43 |
| edleafe | jlk: well, private cloud starts to blur the line between user and admin :) | 19:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Ed Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Docs: update the concept guide for Host topics https://review.openstack.org/249943 | 19:44 |
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| jlk | edleafe: yeah. That line is basically "who can write to the filesystem to influence service configuration | 19:45 |
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| edleafe | alaski: ok. I'm re-writing the scheduler options docs now, so I'll make sure to update them with this info. | 19:45 |
| jlk | our usrers now can only use the filters we explicitly write out for them | 19:45 |
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| jlk | and the consequence is that every build has to go through all the filters we make availble. | 19:48 |
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| alaski | jlk: I'm not sure I see how that's problematic. Do you have an example filter you wouldn't want run unless a user requested it? | 19:51 |
| jlk | alaski: well, no, not specifically -- just that one person's desire means everybody gets the filter. And every filter adds more time to the build | 19:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | dane-fichter proposed openstack/nova-specs: Nova Support of Glance Image Signing https://review.openstack.org/188874 | 19:54 |
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| dane-fichter | johnthetubaguy: New image-signing spec is up. It describes a "sign the data" approach and I believe it addresses all of Dan Berrange's concerns | 19:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ed Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Add better help text to scheduler options https://review.openstack.org/247181 | 20:00 |
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| edleafe | jlk: ^^ updated help text | 20:00 |
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| jlk | awesome, will re-read after lunch | 20:01 |
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| alaski | jlk: gotcha. I think the filters you would want to opt in/out of are, or should be, short circuited when the proper scheduler hint is not passed so I think the additional time will be trivial. If that's not the case we should definitely address that | 20:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | dane-fichter proposed openstack/nova-specs: Nova Support of Glance Image Signing https://review.openstack.org/188874 | 20:12 |
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| jlk | alaski: that's fair. Should the upstream default then be to enable all the filters? Can we re-use the "all" thing used for available_filters in the default_filters ? | 20:17 |
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| edleafe | jlk: remember that the available_filters is unordered, while default is ordered | 20:19 |
| jlk | blerg. | 20:19 |
| jlk | there's no way to autopilot this | 20:19 |
| edleafe | jlk: it's a dumb distinction once you remove user-specified filters | 20:19 |
| alaski | jlk: probably not. you may still want to 'disable' a filter to remove the scheduler hint from users | 20:20 |
| edleafe | jlk: which is why I considered it a bug. Or at least a really ugly wart. | 20:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: hardware: stop using instance cell topology in CPU pinning logic https://review.openstack.org/229574 | 20:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Fix CPU pinning for odd number of CPUs w hyperthreading https://review.openstack.org/229575 | 20:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Add 'CPUThreadAllocationPolicy' enum field https://review.openstack.org/202647 | 20:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Make use of 'InstanceNUMACell.cpu_policy' field https://review.openstack.org/202653 | 20:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Add 'cpu_policy' and 'cpu_thread_policy' fields https://review.openstack.org/202648 | 20:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Add 'hw:cpu_thread_policy=require' scheduling https://review.openstack.org/202651 | 20:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/252608 | 20:30 |
| mriedem | who wants to stat pad ^ | 20:32 |
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| jlk | what's a little whitespace between friends | 20:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: trivial: Add some logs to 'numa_topology_filter' https://review.openstack.org/202650 | 20:35 |
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| melwitt | mriedem: got it | 20:42 |
| mriedem | high five | 20:47 |
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| melwitt | heh | 20:51 |
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| sfinucan | I need someone to make sure I'm not going mad. What *should* happen if I request a list of instance with 'limit=0 | 20:56 |
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| sfinucan | '? | 20:57 |
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| sfinucan | From what I see, tempest says it should return [], while our unit tests say it should ignore it and fall back to the default. Tempest: https://github.com/openstack/tempest/blob/master/tempest/api/compute/servers/test_list_server_filters.py#L161 Unit tests: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/tests/unit/api/openstack/test_common.py#L101 | 20:57 |
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| sfinucan | ...where default is 'CONF.osapi_max_limit' | 20:58 |
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| melwitt | sfinucan: I guess, if that's what tempest is doing, how can the test pass if nova isn't returning the empty list? | 21:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: trivial: Add some logs to 'numa_topology_filter' https://review.openstack.org/202650 | 21:03 |
| sfinucan | melwitt: I have no idea, hence the suggestion of temporal insanity. I'm missing something... | 21:04 |
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| melwitt | sfinucan: yeah. I would have expected limit=0 would yield an empty list. my superficial guess would be that this common.limited function runs after the results are returned from the db, and an empty list is returned from the db | 21:08 |
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| melwitt | sfinucan: and I don't find many usages of the common.limited function in the code. I see it a few apis but not the servers api that would list instances | 21:10 |
| sfinucan | melwitt: Yeah, it's very close to that. The functions 'limited' and 'get_limit_and_marker' work differently. | 21:11 |
| sfinucan | The former will never return 0, because of how it's done https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/openstack/common.py#L255 | 21:11 |
| sfinucan | While the latter will https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/openstack/common.py#L264 | 21:12 |
| edleafe | sfinucan: Good discussion on 'limit=0' in the comments: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/190743 | 21:12 |
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| sfinucan | edleafe: "If limit <= 0, it will result in a 400 Bad Request." we don't do that | 21:14 |
| sfinucan | I wonder should we? | 21:14 |
| edleafe | sfinucan: what does it do? | 21:14 |
| sfinucan | It returns '[]' | 21:15 |
| sfinucan | per Tempest | 21:15 |
| edleafe | hmmm... sure seems like it should be a bad request | 21:15 |
| sfinucan | Yeah - it's nonsensical the way it is | 21:15 |
| edleafe | but that's why we're having this discussion | 21:15 |
| edleafe | things are crazy in API land | 21:15 |
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| sfinucan | I'll attempt a fix as a follow up to this https://review.openstack.org/241361 | 21:16 |
| sfinucan | Yeah, so it seems :) | 21:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Rework 'limited' and 'get_limit_and_marker' https://review.openstack.org/241361 | 21:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | boden proposed openstack/nova: Clean up network resources when reschedule fails https://review.openstack.org/243477 | 21:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Rework 'limited' and 'get_limit_and_marker' https://review.openstack.org/241361 | 21:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Rework 'limited' and 'get_limit_and_marker' https://review.openstack.org/241361 | 21:36 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: join me in nova.tests.unit.network.test_neutronv2 for awhile | 21:47 |
| dansmith | mriedem: eff that | 21:47 |
| mriedem | join us | 21:47 |
| mriedem | it's warm in here | 21:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Change logging level for 'oslo_db' https://review.openstack.org/240271 | 21:49 |
| mriedem | god we have duplicate coverage in here, but it's such a mess i'm afraid to remove anything | 21:50 |
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| claudiub | if anyone could take a look at the instance live-resize spec, that would be great. :D https://review.openstack.org/#/c/141219/ | 22:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: neutron: only list ports if there is a quota limit when validating https://review.openstack.org/252659 | 22:34 |
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| alkhod_ | Hi everyone. I have an issue with attaching nfs volume to instance. The only traceback I could find in logs was in n-cpu. Here is the link http://paste.openstack.org/show/480695/. Any thought on this would be great (I am totally stuck here), thanks in advance. Hope this is a correct channel to ask... | 22:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ildiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add support for shared volumes between guests https://review.openstack.org/212508 | 22:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Ildiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova-specs: API changes for the multi-attach volume feature https://review.openstack.org/251349 | 22:42 |
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| melwitt | speaking of API issues, we have an interesting bug if you happen to name an instance "1" when there exists an instance with id 1 in the database and do 'nova show 1' https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-novaclient/+bug/1516924 | 22:50 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1516924 in python-novaclient "problem to operate instances with interger like names" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Zhihai Song (szhsong) | 22:50 |
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| melwitt | everything in the API assumes it's using an instance uuid, but compute.api.get() will fall back on numeric id for the query, return an instance, and the API caches the request keyed by uuid | 22:53 |
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| RichardRaseley | Does this ( | 23:06 |
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| RichardRaseley | http://openstack-test.domain.local:8774/v2/v2.0/d0064a4d07594a4fb93bfe7b15fbdfef ) appear to be a valid URL for requesting extensions? In the context of ( http://paste.openstack.org/show/480702/ ) . | 23:06 |
| RichardRaseley | I am trying to figure out if I've got an issue in the endpoints, or if there is something in Nova I am working against. | 23:07 |
| RichardRaseley | (rather, malformed endpoints) | 23:07 |
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| tjones | woo hoo!! https://review.openstack.org/#/c/127427/ merged!!! i'm dancing | 23:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | David Edery proposed openstack/nova: ports & networks gather should validate existance https://review.openstack.org/252565 | 23:53 |
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