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| gmann_ | mtreinish: in later case Devstack have to run Juno jobs runs for v2 only | 00:03 |
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| mtreinish | gmann_: well I think changing the default in tempest is a bit risky because of existing deployments | 00:17 |
| mtreinish | even if they're kilo or newer there is no guarantee they're running with 2.1 and things used to just work for them | 00:17 |
| mtreinish | gmann_: what I'd really like to see is making 2.1 the compute endpoint type by default in the catalog | 00:17 |
| mtreinish | and make the 2.0 endpoint the special case one | 00:18 |
| gmann_ | mtreinish: yes, Tempest one might be risky, | 00:19 |
| gmann_ | mtreinish: I will update the patches (in current proposed patch it plays with api-paste.ini for making v21 default) for making v21 default through catalog side. | 00:21 |
| gmann_ | and see how it goes, i pending for long time and i remember you have mentioned many time :) | 00:21 |
| gmann_ | and i forgot to follow up on those, Sorry for that. I will do those by today or max by tomorrow | 00:22 |
| mtreinish | no worries, it's not like it's super critical. It'll just be good to get it sorted so it's a little less confusing for people | 00:23 |
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| gmann_ | mtreinish: yea | 00:25 |
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| n0ano | mriedem_away, ping me when you're back on-line | 00:41 |
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| oomichi | alex_xu_: hi, morning | 00:50 |
| alex_xu_ | oomichi: hi, morning | 00:50 |
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| oomichi | alex_xu_: a little question about api-wg: do you know current status of approved but not-merged patches? | 00:51 |
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| oomichi | alex_xu_: example is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/185180/ | 00:51 |
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| oomichi | alex_xu_: the final deadline of these patches are over already, but we cannot merge them yet | 00:52 |
| alex_xu_ | oomichi: I confuse on that also, but I think it means already merge | 00:52 |
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| oomichi | alex_xu_: yeah, I also have the same feeling. do we have an irc channel for api-wg? | 00:53 |
| alex_xu_ | oomichi: it's worth ask in api-wg channel | 00:53 |
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| alex_xu_ | oomichi: #openstack-api | 00:53 |
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| oomichi | alex_xu_: thanks, I will try it :) | 00:54 |
| alex_xu_ | oomichi: np | 00:54 |
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| deepakcs | Hello, can any cores pls bless https://review.openstack.org/#/c/194538/4 (It already has a lot of +1s) | 05:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | IWAMOTO Toshihiro proposed openstack/nova: Omit RescheduledException in instance_fault.message https://review.openstack.org/165751 | 08:07 |
| deepakcs | Hello, can any cores pls bless https://review.openstack.org/#/c/194538/4 (It already has a lot of +1s) | 08:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova: Add top,bottom & change version tests for microversion 2.4 https://review.openstack.org/202431 | 08:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean McCully proposed openstack/nova: Creates disk.fallocate_test https://review.openstack.org/188249 | 08:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Victor Stinner proposed openstack/nova: Fix Python 3 issues in nova.utils and nova.tests https://review.openstack.org/197982 | 08:25 |
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| haypo | johnthetubaguy, sdague: hi. i had to update my python3 fix https://review.openstack.org/#/c/197982/ because of another fix related to py3 (written by sdague to fix a random failure of py34) | 08:29 |
| openstackgerrit | lyanchih proposed openstack/nova: neutron - race conditions in security-group additions https://review.openstack.org/202436 | 08:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Scheuring proposed openstack/nova: Add macvtap as libvirt virtual interface (vif) type to Nova's libvirt driver https://review.openstack.org/182283 | 08:35 |
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| johnthetubaguy | deepakcs: do you have all the code up for review for that spec now? | 08:50 |
| johnthetubaguy | deepakcs: I am meaning this one: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/volume-snapshot-improvements | 08:50 |
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| deepakcs | johnthetubaguy: yes @ https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/volume-snapshot-improvements,n,z | 08:51 |
| deepakcs | johnthetubaguy: working on review comments for the "needed by" patch | 08:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Guryanov proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: do relative block rebase only with non-null base https://review.openstack.org/202442 | 08:52 |
| johnthetubaguy | deepakcs: can you please mark it as NeedsCodeReview, that should get it more attention I hope | 08:52 |
| deepakcs | johnthetubaguy: maybe i missed something, how to mark it as NeedsCodeReview ? | 08:53 |
| johnthetubaguy | deepakcs: where it says started, you should be able to move it to NeedsCodeReview | 08:53 |
| johnthetubaguy | there should be a little pencil next to it | 08:53 |
| deepakcs | johnthetubaguy: ah in the lp link, i was looking at the patch link :) | 08:54 |
| deepakcs | johnthetubaguy: done, my bad, didn't realise i had to do that in lp | 08:55 |
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| johnthetubaguy | deepakcs: no worries, it just helps tell people when you are done, otherwise its hard to tell | 08:55 |
| deepakcs | johnthetubaguy: agree, I had my patches in WIP for some time, before i moved them to 'ready for review', but forgot abt the LP part | 08:56 |
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| johnthetubaguy | deepakcs: easy done, no worries, all fixed now | 08:57 |
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| deepakcs | johnthetubaguy: :) | 08:58 |
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| nagyz_ | i know not the best channel but does any one of you have a link to recent keystoneclient middleware documentation? I'm trying to understand what's needed and what's not needed in the authtoken configuration as it seems to be a mess and differ project by project | 09:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova: Show 'locked_by' information in server Show & List Detail https://review.openstack.org/202391 | 09:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | lyanchih proposed openstack/nova: NUMATopologyFilter raise exception and not continue filter next node https://review.openstack.org/200630 | 09:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Guryanov proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: do relative block rebase only with non-null base https://review.openstack.org/202442 | 09:22 |
| openstackgerrit | WenPing Zhang proposed openstack/nova: blueprint support-yfs-storage-protocol https://review.openstack.org/202459 | 09:25 |
| alex_xu_ | andreykurilin: one more explain for 'get_current', you can try request to '/2.1' or '/2' instead of '/', you can get current endpoint's version info, then you needn't find out which version info belong to your current endpoint with '/' | 09:27 |
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| andreykurilin | alex_xu: hi! ok. I'll try it now | 09:29 |
| alex_xu | andreykurilin: cool, thanks! | 09:29 |
| andreykurilin | alex_xu: btw, I don't see your mark for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/167408/ :) | 09:29 |
| alex_xu | andreykurilin: yea, I want to see more how thing works more in later patch before give my point for that one | 09:30 |
| andreykurilin | alex_xu: you can check it with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/136458/ , since other patches add only support of "latest" | 09:31 |
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| alex_xu | andreykurilin: yea, that patch need update? | 09:32 |
| alex_xu | andreykurilin: I didn't saw the detail yet, just saw the unittest failed | 09:33 |
| andreykurilin | alex_xu: only recheck is needed due too issue with mock | 09:33 |
| alex_xu | andreykurilin: ok, cool, will try that patch later | 09:33 |
| andreykurilin | which was fixed in master | 09:33 |
| andreykurilin | alex_xu: nice | 09:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: Adding support for InfiniBand SR-IOV vif type https://review.openstack.org/187052 | 09:37 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sahid: I am just looking at https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/convert-consoles-to-objects as there is no code up for review yet, I think that needs to be delayed until M, let me know if I am missing something | 09:50 |
| sdague | haypo: +A | 09:50 |
| sahid | johnthetubaguy: the spec has been approved 10days ago so yes. | 09:52 |
| johnthetubaguy | sahid: yeah, I think we need to keep aiming to get specs approved before the summit, its kinda always been the intention, but we have never really managed it | 09:54 |
| johnthetubaguy | the burn out at the end of the release doesn't help, but hopefully the backlog being open should help this | 09:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/nova: Add total_vms field to ComputeNode https://review.openstack.org/202472 | 09:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | ChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Use explicit greenthread.sleep instead of time.sleep https://review.openstack.org/202365 | 09:58 |
| haypo | sdague: cool, thanks | 09:58 |
| haypo | sdague: did you see my comments on dims patch for reseeding OpenSSL RNG after fork? i proposed to use /dev/urandom instead | 09:58 |
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| haypo | sdague: it's now recommended by most security guys | 09:59 |
| sdague | for which thing? | 09:59 |
| sdague | really, security people are recommending urandom for seeding openssl? | 09:59 |
| sdague | that seems terrible | 09:59 |
| haypo | sdague: no. they recommand to only use /dev/urandom, not use OpenSSL for random | 10:00 |
| andreykurilin | alex_xu: oh... HTTPClient is not friendly-written:( there is no ability to send get request to "url/v21", it can send only to "url/v21/<token>" :( so we need to list all versions when HTTPClient is used and rewrite it in future | 10:00 |
| sdague | where is the entropy being consumed? | 10:00 |
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| sdague | because if the answer is for keypairs, then I think the answer should be a definitive no | 10:01 |
| andreykurilin | alex_xu: OR we can make simple "request.get", since we don't need authentication stuff | 10:01 |
| haypo | sdague: the patch, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/191581/ | 10:01 |
| sdague | because otherwise you get this - https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2014/01/security_risks_9.html | 10:02 |
| haypo | sdague: it's crypto/utils.py in oslo incubator. i don't know how it is used | 10:02 |
| haypo | sdague: i understood that /dev/urandom is good enough to generate keys | 10:02 |
| sdague | right, that's what scares the crap out of me | 10:02 |
| sdague | haypo: please provide a reference for that fact | 10:02 |
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| haypo | sdague: i gave links: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/191581/2/openstack/common/crypto/utils.py & https://review.openstack.org/#/c/191581/5/openstack/common/crypto/utils.py | 10:04 |
| sudipto | johnthetubaguy, is the rule to not have features in which are half way through implementation - even though it might be non-priority? :( It sounds a bit unfair for people who have got their patches half way through the review :( | 10:05 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sudipto: so the idea is to optimise for completed blueprints by 30th July | 10:05 |
| sdague | haypo: so that assumes that this is on systems that aren't fresh created and have accumulated enough entropy in their buffers | 10:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | sudipto: I am starting with blueprints with no code up for review | 10:05 |
| sdague | which, seems like a poor assumption in cloud | 10:06 |
| sdague | if these are freshly deployed compute nodes | 10:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: yeah I think thats why we have nova-cert | 10:06 |
| sdague | so the problem is, we have no idea where this function is going to be used | 10:06 |
| sudipto | johnthetubaguy, ok - so if a spec has half the code in now, and let's say half the code done in the next couple of days (before July 30th) - will it still be considered? | 10:07 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy: sure, but I'm concerned about hiding this fact behind oslo layers | 10:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: yeah, true, its easy to use by accident in the wrong place | 10:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | sudipto: maybe, we should talk about your specific case, technically, the rule is, get all your code up before today, we had 104 approved blueprints this morning, most of the low priority ones do have code up for review already, so we want to give them preference | 10:09 |
| sudipto | johnthetubaguy, ok. | 10:09 |
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| sdague | right, having been ansilarily involved in a firedrill where all the certs on a range of embed systems were brute forcable, I'd like us to not put that bug into our system | 10:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | sudipto: to set expectations, I can't see us merging more that 50% of the blueprints that are already in NeedsCodeReview before 30th, we just don't have enough folks reviewing code right now :( | 10:11 |
| sdague | haypo: this was the incident - http://www.bishopfox.com/blog/2012/03/ssl-key-generation-weaknesses/ | 10:11 |
| sudipto | johnthetubaguy, i have 2 code drops scheduled. My first code has been up for review since July 7th, and finally - we have it in some shape to be merged. But when I heard about the deadline, i am not sure if i should go ahead with the second code drop... | 10:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | sudipto: what is the second code drop? | 10:12 |
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| sdague | and the root cause, was these systems did not have sufficient entropy. | 10:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | sudipto: I guess I am trying to work out why its not up for review already | 10:13 |
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| sudipto | johnthetubaguy, ok, as you might know the recent compute monitor framework went for a change - it's using the nova objects now - and for my blueprint, i needed to introduce a nova object that would support reporting of bw on NUMA nodes. So this was code drop 1. So we reached a consensus on the object 2 days back. Then the second code drop was meant to be for the reporting bit (the metrics - that would be actually fetched via PCP)... | 10:14 |
| haypo | sdague: can you please add a comment giving your two links? i don't have the bandwidth yet to digest these two interesting articles | 10:14 |
| sudipto | johnthetubaguy, I am wondering, if it's a good idea to have the code drop 2 now .... | 10:14 |
| sdague | haypo: sure | 10:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | sudipto: if you haven't started that code yet, possibly not worth it | 10:15 |
| sdague | haypo: honestly, this is a case where I think getting the OpenStack Security team involved in this review would be good. They exist for a reason. If I'm being overly paranoid and they say so, I'm fine with it. | 10:15 |
| sudipto | johnthetubaguy, honestly, i have the code ready - however, I am yet to finish on the UTs... | 10:15 |
| sdague | But I also know it's a common mistake, and rng for crypto is hard | 10:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | sudipto: OK, understood, I mean you can try, just upload what you have, and mark it as WIP, thats a middle ground, but honestly, its getting very close to the wire at this point :( | 10:16 |
| sudipto | johnthetubaguy, ok that's very reasonable. Just marred by the situation i guess :( | 10:17 |
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| _gryf | johnthetubaguy, hi | 10:18 |
| _gryf | johnthetubaguy, i've changed the status of the BP to NeedsCodeReview this morning (since the implementation is done and half of the patches are already accepted) | 10:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | sudipto: yeah, this freeze is all about getting the things we agreed as a priority done (like objects), and getting as much value for our users by getting completed blueprints merged, but yeah, this is not a happy time in the released | 10:19 |
| _gryf | johnthetubaguy, do it is enough to make it still i l release instead of m? | 10:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | _gryf: sounds good, yeah NeedsCodeReview = all the code us submitted for review | 10:20 |
| _gryf | johnthetubaguy, cool, since it would be scary to wait entire cycle to make it merge :) | 10:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | _gryf: its just a case of getting the code merged before the 30th July | 10:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | the big message here is, the more reviews everyone does of each others code, the more likely we can get more blueprints merged | 10:22 |
| _gryf | johnthetubaguy, ack. Who can I ask for review changes which touches the topics of service groups and REST API? | 10:22 |
| _gryf | johnthetubaguy, (i mean the core team) | 10:23 |
| _gryf | johnthetubaguy, since one of my pacth already have a bunch of +1 | 10:23 |
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| johnthetubaguy | _gryf: its a waiting game at this point, but for the REST API, there is the API subteam with some great reviewers who can help | 10:25 |
| _gryf | johnthetubaguy, ok, thanx for the info | 10:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sudipta Biswas proposed openstack/nova: Allow NUMA based reporting for Monitors https://review.openstack.org/198972 | 10:32 |
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| johnthetubaguy | park_heijlong: just looking at the state of this blueprint, I don't think all the code is up for review yet? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/add-id-to-security-groups-for-server-show | 10:59 |
| ndipanov | so found this little gremlin https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1475254 | 10:59 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1475254 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "NovaObjectSerializer cannot handle backporting a nested object" [High,Confirmed] | 10:59 |
| ndipanov | morale of the story - humans should not raise exceptions in recursive functions | 11:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Murray proposed openstack/nova: Remove conductor api from resource tracker https://review.openstack.org/202501 | 11:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Guryanov proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: do relative block rebase only with non-null base https://review.openstack.org/202442 | 11:12 |
| * alex_xu sending text to park_heijlong, notify him... | 11:12 | |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Murray proposed openstack/nova: Remove conductor api from resource tracker https://review.openstack.org/202501 | 11:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: hardware: take into account pages size when computing memory https://review.openstack.org/202504 | 11:16 |
| sahid | ndipanov: can you take a look at this, it's still work in progress https://review.openstack.org/202504 | 11:16 |
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| sahid | it's about how we compute memory usage when host have kind of pages | 11:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sergey Vilgelm proposed openstack/nova: Switch to the oslo_utils.fileutils https://review.openstack.org/199575 | 11:35 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: edleafe: I see the email for the scheduler, I'll try to reply for it today | 11:40 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: edleafe: tl;dr: anyone can do anything out of tree, and then coming back for discussing | 11:40 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: edleafe: but we need to be very clear on modifying the current in-tree schedulers | 11:41 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: yep, but I appreciate people like edleafe being up ideas for discussion, thats really healthy | 11:41 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: sorry, I pinged edleafe now even if I know he's AFK due to his TZ | 11:41 |
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| garyk | is there any chance that one or more cores can please look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/188789/ - there are tons of patches waiting for this one to get in. this is starting the metadata object support. please i implore you | 11:54 |
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| PaulMurray | ndipanov, have you seen https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1275675 | 12:04 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1275675 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Version change in ObjectField does not work with back-levelling" [Wishlist,Confirmed] - Assigned to Paul Murray (pmurray) | 12:04 |
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| PaulMurray | ndipanov, and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/78605/ | 12:04 |
| * PaulMurray didn't assign that to himself?? | 12:05 | |
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| openstackgerrit | Jordan Pittier proposed openstack/nova: libvirt:when deleting snapshot use qemu-img to blockRebase if domain is stopped https://review.openstack.org/192736 | 12:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Jordan Pittier proposed openstack/nova: libvirt:when deleting snapshot use qemu-img to blockRebase if domain is stopped https://review.openstack.org/192736 | 12:08 |
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| * kashyap notes randomly: if you're using `gertty` and like to view the Gate job logs on CLI, invoke it this way: BROWSER=lynx gertty (thanks fungi). | 12:12 | |
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| dims_ | sdague: good morning, i ran devstack with nova + oslo.service here (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202075/) - grenade jobs seem to be doing ok. | 12:17 |
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| ndipanov | PaulMurray, no | 12:20 |
| ndipanov | but your fix is not correct I think | 12:20 |
| ndipanov | now that I look at it | 12:20 |
| ndipanov | adding tests now | 12:20 |
| ndipanov | will post a fix soon | 12:21 |
| ndipanov | but I think it's the same thing | 12:21 |
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| ndipanov | PaulMurray, it's the same bug | 12:22 |
| ndipanov | PaulMurray, how come you just abandoned the fix | 12:24 |
| ndipanov | it's a pretty bad bug | 12:24 |
| sdague | dims_: so, actually it's gate-devstack-dsvm-updown that we care about | 12:26 |
| sdague | the grenade jobs won't see it until the next release, because kilo is still the old code | 12:26 |
| sdague | but, I see we have a bunch of runs there | 12:27 |
| sdague | so I'm good with it | 12:27 |
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| dims_ | sdague: ack. thanks! | 12:29 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sdague: do you know where we document what "dsvm-updown" does? I have lost track a bit | 12:33 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy: it's not all that documented, it's a devstack functional job | 12:33 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: it was the "updown" bit, is that turning the services off an on again? | 12:34 |
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| sdague | it's turning them off again | 12:34 |
| sdague | so bring everything up, and shut it all down | 12:35 |
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| sdague | to make sure that shutting down works | 12:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | cool, that makes sense | 12:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | its not updownup | 12:35 |
| PaulMurray | ndipanov, I abandoned the fix because I got into one of those "is this what we really want to do" discussions and it was down as a wish........... | 12:35 |
| sdague | so that there isn't a big run around at release when we try to flip grenade to a new stable, and then we find out kill on services is broken | 12:36 |
| sdague | which... was the kilo situation | 12:36 |
| ndipanov | PaulMurray, bs - it's a horrible bug | 12:36 |
| PaulMurray | ndipanov, also the line at the time was this shouldn't happen so its more like a runtime sanity check | 12:36 |
| ndipanov | also bs | 12:36 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: +1 its awesome to add that test in | 12:36 |
| PaulMurray | ndipanov, but I do agree with you | 12:36 |
| ndipanov | it is happening to me now | 12:36 |
| ndipanov | we can't land a fix because of this | 12:36 |
| ndipanov | I will mark my bug as duplicate and post a fix | 12:36 |
| ndipanov | a fix is very simple actually | 12:36 |
| ndipanov | the fix that is | 12:37 |
| PaulMurray | ndipanov, cool - I'll take a look. Actually I am about to go on holiday for a couple of weeks - so I might not be around for long | 12:37 |
| PaulMurray | end of week that is | 12:38 |
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| ndipanov | yeah I'll post this in like 20 min | 12:40 |
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| ndipanov | just to get the tests working PaulMurray | 12:40 |
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| park_heijlong_ | johnthetubaguy: hi, for the bp https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/add-id-to-security-groups-for-server-show, there is only 1 patch left, I could finish it this night | 12:46 |
| park_heijlong_ | johnthetubaguy: could I catch the L release freeze..? | 12:47 |
| johnthetubaguy | park_heijlong_: OK, if you can get that up, drop me an email, and I will see if we can sneak that in. The big problem, is thats its really close to the wire to get enough reviews to get it merged by 30th July | 12:47 |
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| park_heijlong_ | johnthetubaguy: yep, make sense, I will try best to... thank you in advance | 12:49 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sdague: I think we spoke before about documenting these ideas, would love a quick review of some of this, if you get chance: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Liberty_Release_Schedule#How_can_I_get_my_code_merged_faster.3F | 12:49 |
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| markus_z | What's your strategy to deprecate (private) methods which get deleted in a following patch set? | 12:54 |
| markus_z | I couldn't found a decorator for that. | 12:54 |
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| markus_z | s/found/find | 12:55 |
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| edleafe | tonyb: still around? You just missed me earlier | 12:57 |
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| johnthetubaguy | edleafe: saw your mail about the scheduler, sounds interesting, just wondered if you saw my attempted write up of the ideas I raised at the summit: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/191914/ | 12:59 |
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| edleafe | johnthetubaguy: sure, I've read it, and it covers what I remember being discussed at the summit | 13:00 |
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| johnthetubaguy | edleafe: cool, I am just being cheaky and seeing if I could get someone to try the kafka idea (its basically a rehash of the no-db-scheduler blueprint) | 13:02 |
| edleafe | johnthetubaguy: I didn't add my ideas because we hadn't talked about them | 13:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | edleafe: another backlog spec is welcome, but trying them out is probably more useful | 13:03 |
| edleafe | johnthetubaguy: one thing I know is that the community can argue forever on an idea | 13:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | edleafe: certainly, I see the bottleneck as the data sync, so its the right bit to focus on, for max benefit | 13:03 |
| edleafe | johnthetubaguy: I wanted to try to present some numbers first | 13:03 |
| edleafe | johnthetubaguy: it's also key to separation, oddly enough | 13:04 |
| edleafe | johnthetubaguy: if this is successful, there is no reason that it wouldn't be available to cinder, neutron, etc | 13:04 |
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| johnthetubaguy | edleafe: so we will want a single block of state for that I think, but thats a different discussion | 13:05 |
| edleafe | johnthetubaguy: yes | 13:05 |
| bauzas | edleafe: I'm trying to provide you a reply by today | 13:05 |
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| edleafe | johnthetubaguy: what I hope to get out of the midcycle are some goals to shoot for | 13:05 |
| bauzas | edleafe: to be clear, I like to see some out-of-tree drivers for that | 13:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | edleafe: I am trying to sketch out the direction of where we are thinking in devref, so we can get more folks involved: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/192260/ | 13:06 |
| bauzas | edleafe: but I wonder how to do that correctly in-tree | 13:06 |
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| edleafe | bauzas: this is simply a POC experiment | 13:06 |
| bauzas | edleafe: if so, why do you need some help/view ? | 13:06 |
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| edleafe | bauzas: it is a waste of time to debate how to integrate it until we know that it's worth the effort | 13:06 |
| bauzas | edleafe: well, anyone can POC a new driver | 13:07 |
| edleafe | bauzas: I need to know what sort of results would be definitive | 13:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | edleafe: yeah, thats a good goal, hopefully this is a starting point: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/192260/ | 13:07 |
| edleafe | bauzas: it's not a driver | 13:07 |
| bauzas | edleafe: so, johnthetubaguy's backlog spec is there for that | 13:07 |
| edleafe | bauzas: it's a different approach to sharing data | 13:07 |
| bauzas | edleafe: I know Cassandra , but I would like to understand why | 13:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | edleafe: so you can plug that as a new driver, I think this pattern would work: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/scheduler/caching_scheduler.py | 13:08 |
| bauzas | edleafe: because here, we don't need a technology, rather a design disussion | 13:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrey Kurilin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Add support of latest version in CLI https://review.openstack.org/184281 | 13:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrey Kurilin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Add "get_current" method to VersionManager https://review.openstack.org/202296 | 13:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrey Kurilin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Implements 'microversions' api type - Part 1 https://review.openstack.org/152569 | 13:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrey Kurilin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Set "latest" as default compute api version https://review.openstack.org/184658 | 13:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrey Kurilin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Implements 'microversions' api type - Part 2 https://review.openstack.org/167408 | 13:08 |
| edleafe | bauzas: because I have seen it perform in situations that had the same issues as we are having | 13:08 |
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| edleafe | bauzas: the technology enables the design | 13:09 |
| bauzas | edleafe: please don't | 13:09 |
| bauzas | edleafe: see that http://sbauza.github.io/2015/04/20/#/4 ? | 13:09 |
| edleafe | bauzas: we have been trying to re-invent much of that technology using other things | 13:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: its just one implementation of a different approach, giving it a whirl in a prototype is fine I think | 13:09 |
| bauzas | edleafe: anyone can work on a new driver and see how it works | 13:09 |
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| bauzas | edleafe: you only have to implement a very limited interface for your own scheduler | 13:10 |
| bauzas | edleafe: and that can be called thanks to an opt | 13:10 |
| edleafe | bauzas: you don't seem to understand that this isn't simply "another driver" | 13:11 |
| bauzas | edleafe: so I'm really +1 on giving you room for that | 13:11 |
| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/nova: Neutron: configure requested amount of fixed_ips https://review.openstack.org/163864 | 13:11 |
| garyk | mriedem_away: you have a sec ti talk about https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/1ba72081715869fe6d0ffba3436fb09ef9499335? | 13:11 |
| edleafe | bauzas: another driver would have to consume the same data in the same way, and emit it in the same way | 13:11 |
| garyk | the change prevents us from deleting an instance … | 13:11 |
| bauzas | edleafe: you're talking about a backend, right? | 13:12 |
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| bauzas | edleafe: incorrect | 13:12 |
| bauzas | edleafe: another driver can provide its own way to consume resources | 13:12 |
| edleafe | bauzas: all I'm asking is "What results would impress you so much that it would be worth considering this type of change?" | 13:12 |
| bauzas | edleafe: be sure that lots of alternatives exist out-of-tree | 13:12 |
| edleafe | bauzas: this would require changing how resources are reported, too | 13:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrey Kurilin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Adds support for x509 certificates as keypairs https://review.openstack.org/136458 | 13:13 |
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| edleafe | bauzas: don't fixate on a particular solution | 13:13 |
| bauzas | edleafe: my take on that is to say - anyone can do anything he wants | 13:13 |
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| edleafe | bauzas: tell me what I could show you that would be significant | 13:13 |
| bauzas | edleafe: but if that requires in-tree implementation, take it in small steps | 13:13 |
| edleafe | bauzas: other experiments could use the same metrics | 13:13 |
| edleafe | bauzas: this might meet those expectations, but others could, too | 13:13 |
| bauzas | edleafe: right, what we need to consider is the migration path from the current situation to the one you wabnt | 13:14 |
| edleafe | bauzas: you're getting ahead of things again | 13:14 |
| bauzas | edleafe: that's exactly why we're working on fixing stuff and reducing debt | 13:14 |
| edleafe | discussing what small steps we should take should come *after* we know it's going to be worth it, not before | 13:14 |
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| bauzas | edleafe: so, play with the POC, use it even downstream | 13:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | edleafe: for me, look at doing 1000 builds in parallel with a setup where you have space for many 1100 builds, and do that as quickly as possible, with minimal retries, at least thats the kind of thing I am worried about | 13:15 |
| edleafe | bauzas: you seem to want to iron out all the details before we even know that this will be an improvement | 13:15 |
| edleafe | johnthetubaguy: thank you! | 13:15 |
| edleafe | johnthetubaguy: finally someone understands what I asked! :) | 13:15 |
| bauzas | okay, I appreciate your tone :) | 13:16 |
| * bauzas looking back to code | 13:16 | |
| johnthetubaguy | edleafe: ah, so I miss-read your email then, I didn't get thats what you wanted, but yeah, thats the use case that sucks right now :) | 13:16 |
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| mnaser | i've had this patch for around a week now with 2 +1s.. any cores free to have a look over? it's a pretty straight forward patch.. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/199516/ | 13:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | edleafe: parallelism in the current schedule means more bad descisions | 13:16 |
| edleafe | johnthetubaguy: I know that I can experiment out-of-tree without anyone's approval | 13:17 |
| edleafe | johnthetubaguy: I only want to know what sort of results would make the community want to consider possibly taking it in-tree | 13:17 |
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| johnthetubaguy | edleafe: yeah, I understand that now | 13:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | edleafe: the two reviews should help describe that: https://review.openstack.org/200001 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/191914 if they don't then need more work | 13:18 |
| johnthetubaguy | edleafe: to be clear I am fairly sure they need a lot more work, but I would love some ideas on how to get what you need from them | 13:19 |
| edleafe | johnthetubaguy: thanks. I'll be sure to absorb them before the midcycle | 13:19 |
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| edleafe | johnthetubaguy: I like playing with ideas without focusing on why they *won't* work | 13:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | edleafe: the first one is the more important one, getting a devref to describe the scheduler work | 13:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Nikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova: Fix the incorrect PciDeviceList version number https://review.openstack.org/201280 | 13:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Nikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova: objects: fix deserialization with nested backleveling https://review.openstack.org/202554 | 13:20 |
| ndipanov | dansmith, mriedem_away ^^ | 13:20 |
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| johnthetubaguy | edleafe: its a really useful approach for performance work | 13:20 |
| ndipanov | we should really land the first patch asap - I will propose a kilo backport too | 13:21 |
| ndipanov | PaulMurray, ^^ | 13:21 |
| nihilifer | bauzas: do you have some time for review today? | 13:21 |
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| johnthetubaguy | edleafe: the stuff I tried and prototyped last year (that generated the CachingScheduler) is what has lead me in this current direction | 13:21 |
| edleafe | johnthetubaguy: ok, I'll dig into it | 13:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | edleafe: fully recommend the crazy protoype, it was extremely educational! | 13:22 |
| nihilifer | bauzas: just want to know whether the approach in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/195783/ is now good for you | 13:22 |
| edleafe | johnthetubaguy: :) | 13:22 |
| andreykurilin | sdague, johnthetubaguy, alex_xu: hi! I fixed all patches in novaclient based on our yesterday's discussion. | 13:22 |
| andreykurilin | *the day before yesterday | 13:22 |
| bauzas | edleafe: were you at the session about scaling out the scheduler ? https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-nova-scalling-out-scheduler-for-cells | 13:23 |
| edleafe | bauzas: of course | 13:23 |
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| bauzas | edleafe: okay, so I feel that something is unclear to me | 13:24 |
| bauzas | edleafe: by reading again your idea, you're thinking about changing how we report those metrics so we can scale | 13:24 |
| haypo | johnthetubaguy: sorry, but i'm not sure that i understood the status "NeedsCoreReview" for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/nova-python3 -- can I continue to submit python3 patches next weeks? or should I wait until november? | 13:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | haypo: you should wait, really, at least after the end of today, I think you should wait | 13:25 |
| bauzas | edleafe: but that sounds very close to what we discussed during that session | 13:25 |
| bauzas | edleafe: and where the outcome was "we need to define first our thoughts" | 13:25 |
| edleafe | bauzas: well, yes, it certainly sparked my thinking | 13:26 |
| edleafe | bauzas: when I first created cells ("zones" back then) I had modeled them using Cassandra | 13:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | haypo: the basic idea is that we need to get what we have up for review merged by 30th June, after that point, we try to just focus on the priority stuff | 13:26 |
| edleafe | bauzas: that got shot down by the "MySQL Everywhere" sentiment | 13:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Guryanov proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: do relative block rebase only with non-null base https://review.openstack.org/202442 | 13:27 |
| bauzas | edleafe: I really want to stop talking about implementations :) | 13:27 |
| edleafe | bauzas: all the problems of the original zones design came from trying to force one design into another implementation | 13:27 |
| bauzas | edleafe: what we need is a way to provide resources to a distributed system | 13:27 |
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| edleafe | bauzas: hmmmm... what could possibly do that? :) | 13:28 |
| edleafe | bauzas: let's please stop arguing about one approach over another, until we have some results | 13:28 |
| edleafe | bauzas: let's make choices based on data, not feelings or biases | 13:29 |
| edleafe | bauzas: if I run this experiment and the numbers don't impress, I'll be the first person to say "don't do this" | 13:29 |
| edleafe | bauzas: but I think it's a bad idea for long-term development to shoot down experiments before they are run | 13:30 |
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| bauzas | edleafe: again, I really want that experiment | 13:32 |
| bauzas | edleafe: I even proposed one https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-nova-scalable-scheduler | 13:32 |
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| bauzas | edleafe: so that's pretty cool to see you're volunteer for working on that | 13:33 |
| edleafe | bauzas: did you ever get a chance to try it? | 13:33 |
| bauzas | edleafe: and your proposal is very close to what johnthetubaguy proposed with Kafka | 13:33 |
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| edleafe | bauzas: so if we can get an experimental setup in place, we could eventually try out several approaches and see which is strongest | 13:34 |
| edleafe | bauzas: but that's still getting ahead of ourselves | 13:34 |
| bauzas | edleafe: my proposal was focusing on having a distributed lock for consuming resources | 13:34 |
| bauzas | edleafe: yours and johnthetubaguy are more about how we get those resources | 13:35 |
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| bauzas | edleafe: that's where I think it doesn't really need something to be done to be tested | 13:36 |
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| edleafe | bauzas: yes: how they are reported, compared, and claimed | 13:36 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: I did put both in my spec, thats one of the issues I need to fix in that spec actually | 13:36 |
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| bauzas | edleafe: what I'm missing with your proposal is how it interacts with the existing design | 13:37 |
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| bauzas | edleafe: I understood you want more than a drvier | 13:37 |
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| edleafe | bauzas: not sure I understand | 13:37 |
| bauzas | edleafe: you can't really do a big-bang, right? | 13:37 |
| edleafe | bauzas: meaning what? | 13:38 |
| bauzas | edleafe: you have the existing architecture, the scheduler client reporting stats by writing a DB row, the scheduler reading that once and consuming that, and you have the RT claims | 13:38 |
| bauzas | edleafe: you're planning to touch the 3 above things | 13:39 |
| bauzas | edleafe: IIUC | 13:39 |
| edleafe | bauzas: yes, it's all open to change in the experiment | 13:39 |
| bauzas | edleafe: but what I'm missing is how you guarantee that we keep a continuous deployment | 13:40 |
| bauzas | well, not 'CD', but rather a continuous delivery | 13:40 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: no of that really matters in this context right? | 13:40 |
| edleafe | bauzas: ah, so you're getting back to the in-tree discussion | 13:40 |
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| edleafe | bauzas: we can talk about that, but only after it's clear that we want to go down that path | 13:41 |
| bauzas | edleafe: well, isn't that the goal ? | 13:41 |
| ndipanov | dansmith, what up with -2s? | 13:41 |
| ndipanov | I can fix the patch | 13:41 |
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| ndipanov | if we don't fix that we can't fix the version skip | 13:41 |
| edleafe | bauzas: from my proposal: | 13:41 |
| edleafe | "I would ask that we acknowledge for now that: | 13:41 |
| dansmith | ndipanov: the patch proposes to fundamentally change the behavior, yes? | 13:41 |
| edleafe | a) it will be disruptive and painful to switch something like this at | 13:41 |
| edleafe | this point in Nova's development | 13:41 |
| edleafe | b) it would have to provide *significant* improvement to make such a | 13:41 |
| ndipanov | dansmith, pls move to -1 | 13:42 |
| edleafe | change worthwhile | 13:42 |
| ndipanov | dansmith, let me think if this will fix our case | 13:42 |
| edleafe | bauzas: I know that any such change is going to be difficult | 13:42 |
| edleafe | bauzas: I don't know that it will be worthwhile | 13:42 |
| ndipanov | I think it would | 13:42 |
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| edleafe | bauzas: the experiment is simply to answer the second point | 13:42 |
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| bauzas | edleafe: okay, then you wonder what is considered "significant", then ? | 13:44 |
| bauzas | in other words, you need to define success KPIs ? | 13:44 |
| ndipanov | dansmith, well it will not work in this case | 13:44 |
| edleafe | bauzas: exactly | 13:44 |
| bauzas | sorry, success criterias | 13:44 |
| ndipanov | it would cause an infinet loop I think | 13:44 |
| ndipanov | backport instance <- get the same thing <- call for backport <- get the same thing ... | 13:45 |
| bauzas | edleafe: well, we don't have so many figures upstream, and I feel the best people to reply to that are operatoes | 13:45 |
| bauzas | edleafe: you lost me by providing a technical description to a simple question : what do you consider an an improvement for the scheduler ? | 13:45 |
| bauzas | edleafe: and like I said, the ones who know the best about that are ops | 13:46 |
| ndipanov | dansmith, we could fix this with a two step approach | 13:46 |
| dansmith | ndipanov: not if you make the change in the one that fixes the version, or if you drop the relationship first | 13:46 |
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| ndipanov | not sure I follow | 13:46 |
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| bauzas | edleafe: I remember some good chat I had with a RAX operations guy at the summit | 13:48 |
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| bauzas | edleafe: this guy was having good insights for helping how to improve the scheduler | 13:48 |
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| bauzas | someone from alaski's team IIRC | 13:48 |
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| edleafe | bauzas: I'd certainly like to help the RAX use case | 13:48 |
| ndipanov | dansmith, we could merge a patch wehre we never sends 1.2 to kilo nodes | 13:48 |
| ndipanov | then fix it in kilo | 13:48 |
| ndipanov | then fix it in master again to send it to kilo nodes | 13:49 |
| bauzas | edleafe: what I'm trying to explain is that if you need help for that, fire an email to openstack-operators@ and people would be glad to help you | 13:49 |
| edleafe | bauzas: I might also need some of their cloud to test across global deployments | 13:49 |
| ndipanov | but that serializer code is still busted | 13:49 |
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| bauzas | edleafe: just mention that you're planning to work on an experiment to identify what could be the benefits but you need to weigh the benefits | 13:49 |
| bauzas | edleafe: not sure the ML thread on -dev@ is that clear too - I'll try to reply it asap | 13:50 |
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| edleafe | bauzas: sure. These are the sorts of things I want to come away from the midcycle with, so that I can start to create a plan | 13:50 |
| bauzas | edleafe: not sure the midcycle can help more that that | 13:51 |
| bauzas | than | 13:51 |
| alaski | bauzas: not sure who you would have talked to, it could have been any of the ops folks as they're all pretty opinionated about the scheduler :) | 13:51 |
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| edleafe | alaski: ya think? :) | 13:51 |
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| alaski | it's hard not to focus on the pain :) | 13:52 |
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| alaski | edleafe: johnthetubaguy already outlined one use case, but more generally our interest is in reducing races when we're near capacity | 13:53 |
| edleafe | alaski: good to know | 13:53 |
| edleafe | alaski: I'll probably need your help designing a test that would show that | 13:53 |
| alaski | in the current scheduler we have too much contention over a subset of the remaining capacity. our weighers don't do a great job of spreading requests | 13:53 |
| dansmith | ndipanov: if you drop the relationship from master first, so that it will not send 1.2, then write a patch to fix the serializer to ask for the proper top version, add pcidevicelist 1.2, then re-add the relationship you should be good right? | 13:54 |
| edleafe | alaski: "your" meaning RAX folks | 13:54 |
| alaski | edleafe: yes | 13:54 |
| johnthetubaguy | edleafe: alaski: yeah +1, the above scenario I was talking about focuses on that | 13:54 |
| ndipanov | drop the relationship completely ? | 13:54 |
| ndipanov | or just make sure to never send 1.2 to kilo nodes | 13:54 |
| dansmith | ndipanov: it's not getting us anything right now, right? | 13:54 |
| alaski | edleafe: bursts of builds are another class of problem, but it sort of boils down to the same thing. too much contention on a subset of available capacity | 13:55 |
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| ndipanov | what do you mean by drop the relationship? | 13:55 |
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| ndipanov | exactly | 13:55 |
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| ndipanov | dansmith, ^ | 13:55 |
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| dansmith | ndipanov: remove it | 13:56 |
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| ndipanov | like delete the field from the instance object? | 13:57 |
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| dansmith | from pcidevicelist | 13:58 |
| bauzas | alaski: that's one of the reasons I was working on a distributed lock, because that's mostly where the conditions at the limits are hit | 13:58 |
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| ndipanov | dansmith, when you have some time pls explain what you meant in a bit more words... :) | 14:02 |
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| alaski | bauzas: yes, a distributed lock would help. But I think that gets to edleafes point that some of this work is rebuilding a system like cassandra which brings that stuff in "for free" | 14:06 |
| bauzas | alaski: hence johnthetubaguy's backlog spec :p | 14:06 |
| bauzas | alaski: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/191914/ | 14:06 |
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| johnthetubaguy | Cassandra could be a cool alternative, for the reasons alaski mentions, its worth a quick punt | 14:07 |
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| bauzas | heh, are we sure Greek-ish stuff are the best ? | 14:08 |
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| dansmith | ndipanov: first, we need to fix the serializer so it asks for the proper top-level version and backport that, yes? until that's done, the rest is moot | 14:09 |
| ndipanov | nope | 14:09 |
| ndipanov | if we do that | 14:09 |
| ndipanov | then we would get an infinite loop | 14:09 |
| ndipanov | since kilo serializer causes this | 14:09 |
| ndipanov | so if we fix it and backport it | 14:10 |
| ndipanov | then fix the version on master | 14:10 |
| alaski | johnthetubaguy: bauzas to be clear I have no affinity towards Cassandra. Kafka or any other system would be just as interesting to try | 14:10 |
| ndipanov | that fix will cause kilo serializer to keep sending back the instance when it fails on PciDeviceList | 14:10 |
| ndipanov | and keep getting the same thing back | 14:10 |
| dansmith | ndipanov: you mean because kilo doesn't know about the new pcidevice or pcidevicelist, right? | 14:11 |
| alaski | bauzas: what I do really like is the consideration of how computes are reporting resources and how it might change, as right now it's heavily biased towards a filtering scheduler implementation, as it should given that it's what we have | 14:11 |
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| johnthetubaguy | alaski: FWIW, same here, I kinda like the idea of falling back to mysql, too, assuming thats simple, which it might well not be... | 14:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: Specify current directory during processutils.execute using new cwd param https://review.openstack.org/191604 | 14:12 |
| ndipanov | yes dansmith | 14:12 |
| alaski | johnthetubaguy: what I really want to see would be a mysql implementation and a cassandra and a kafka and a ... implementataion that could all work very differently. which means the important bit is figuring out how to report resources | 14:13 |
| alaski | johnthetubaguy: and not have a mysql fallback for a kafka implementation, just accept that they're different things | 14:13 |
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| johnthetubaguy | alaski: yeah true, "fallback" might best being "use the old system" well current system, I guess | 14:14 |
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| dansmith | ndipanov: so if you fix the version in master, but don't add the relationship from instance to the new pcidevicelist, and then backport that change to kilo, then you can fix the relationship in master so we start sending the thing and kilo will accept it, yes? | 14:15 |
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| ndipanov | dansmith, yes that's what was my plan B | 14:15 |
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| bauzas | alaski: johnthetubaguy: well, what I want to avoid is pulling some hard dependency which would make us a bit unsatisfied | 14:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: Enable python34 tests for nova/tests/unit/scheduler/test*.py https://review.openstack.org/187968 | 14:15 |
| bauzas | alaski: johnthetubaguy: take the SG drivers as an example | 14:16 |
| bauzas | alaski: johnthetubaguy: so any improvement using a different and cool backend is +1 to me, but that shouldn't be the reason for the change | 14:16 |
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| bauzas | alaski: johnthetubaguy: we should conceptually fix our problems and have different SLAs based on backend features | 14:17 |
| bauzas | exactly like a virt driver | 14:17 |
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| bauzas | all of that being MHO of course | 14:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: I think we agree, but sometimes you just need to try out ideas | 14:18 |
| alaski | yeah, that's basically my thought as well | 14:18 |
| edleafe | johnthetubaguy: +1 | 14:18 |
| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Cleanup HTTPRequest for security_groups test https://review.openstack.org/182630 | 14:19 |
| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Change group controller of V2 test cases https://review.openstack.org/182613 | 14:19 |
| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Add schema check for security_groups https://review.openstack.org/182614 | 14:19 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: well, I do agree but while I consider it as valid, I also consider that sometimes we need to fix our interfaces first :) | 14:19 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: tbh, I really like POCs and I wish I could do one - but I also need to reduce our debt :) | 14:19 |
| bauzas | just becase the current model is pretty broken | 14:20 |
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| alaski | bauzas: before bringing it in tree the interfaces would need to be fixed, but that's a ways off. and a PoC could help us understand what the interfaces should look like | 14:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | alaski: +1 | 14:20 |
| ndipanov | dansmith, but we should fix the deserialization regardless... | 14:21 |
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| bauzas | alaski: I do admit that :) | 14:21 |
| dansmith | ndipanov: agreed, might as well get that in the pipeline | 14:22 |
| bauzas | I feel sorry to be seen as conservative, while I really consider PoCs as good | 14:22 |
| ndipanov | dansmith, but as we've seen just asking for a blanket top level version may not work and can bite us again | 14:22 |
| ndipanov | so maybe we need something a bit more robust | 14:22 |
| ndipanov | without causing potentially N RPC calls | 14:22 |
| ndipanov | maybe walk the tree, see what's unsupported - make a single request | 14:23 |
| dansmith | ndipanov: sure, so do you want to work on that in o.vo and port it over to nova before we fix the bug, or do you want to make it ask the proper toplevel right now so we can proceed? | 14:23 |
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| ndipanov | first I will fix the versions | 14:25 |
| ndipanov | so even a simple version fix would need to go o.vo first, right? | 14:26 |
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| jlearman | Hi, newb here, just getting myself set up to help out (I'll probably start by upgrading Nova UT testcases from mox to mock). I'm planning to use virtualbox with ubuntu on my Windows laptop, but haven't started down that path yet. Any reason that won't work, or is there a better suggestion for Windows? | 14:27 |
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| dansmith | ndipanov: you mean asking for the proper toplevel, right? | 14:30 |
| dansmith | ndipanov: if you want to do that in nova, I'll mirror it on the o.vo side if it looks clean and we can do it in parallel | 14:30 |
| ndipanov | dansmith, since it's not on the critical path for this version thing | 14:31 |
| ndipanov | I can do it in o.vo | 14:32 |
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| dansmith | it's not? maybe because you're getting an instance fault anyway? | 14:32 |
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| ndipanov | so like I said | 14:32 |
| ndipanov | well I think it's better to fix the versions first even if with 2 patches | 14:33 |
| ndipanov | and then properly fix the serializer | 14:33 |
| ndipanov | (walk the tree, backport all that are too new in one go) | 14:34 |
| dansmith | oh, you mean that | 14:34 |
| ndipanov | as opposed to just backport the latest top level | 14:34 |
| ndipanov | because as is demonstrated by this issue | 14:35 |
| dansmith | I want to fix the current serializer asking for the proper toplevel ASAP, because that's what we're currently depending on | 14:35 |
| ndipanov | it still leaves a few edge cases open | 14:35 |
| ndipanov | ok but that's still broken for the situation we are currently in | 14:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: Implement compare-and-swap for instance update https://review.openstack.org/202593 | 14:35 |
| dansmith | so I'll fix the toplevel issue | 14:35 |
| ndipanov | and we still need a 2 step fix for the versions | 14:35 |
| dansmith | yeah, I understand, but the toplevel version thing affects everyone | 14:36 |
| alex_xu | andreykurilin: hi, when you begin vacation?, may I update your patch when your vacation? | 14:36 |
| ndipanov | ok | 14:36 |
| ndipanov | but it's still not the proper fix - that's all I'm saying | 14:36 |
| dansmith | it's not going to fix you for this, I get that | 14:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Shiina, Hironori proposed openstack/nova: Add a compute RPC API to inject an NMI https://review.openstack.org/202595 | 14:37 |
| ndipanov | but yes less wrong than blatantly wrong is better for sure | 14:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mike Dorman proposed openstack/nova: Add console allowed origins setting https://review.openstack.org/201677 | 14:37 |
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| mdbooth | jaypipes mriedem johnthetubaguy: This version adds a retry when it detects the race instead of raising a different exception: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202593/ | 14:38 |
| jaypipes | mdbooth: yep, it's in the queu. | 14:38 |
| jaypipes | queue... | 14:38 |
| mdbooth | I thought you americans called them lines | 14:38 |
| dansmith | mdbooth: not for this :) | 14:39 |
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| dansmith | heh | 14:39 |
| johnthetubaguy | mdbooth: ah, cool, thanks for pushing on that | 14:40 |
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| ndipanov | so dansmith I also saw that we keep asking for that backport in one case for block device | 14:42 |
| ndipanov | ah but that can happen when Block device mapping is sent over RPC | 14:43 |
| ndipanov | cool cool | 14:43 |
| ndipanov | nevermind | 14:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: move LibvirtISCSIVolumeDriver into it's own module https://review.openstack.org/202301 | 14:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: move LibvirtISERVolumeDriver into it's own module https://review.openstack.org/197311 | 14:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: move LibvirtNETVolumeDriver into it's own module https://review.openstack.org/197341 | 14:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova: Fix the incorrect PciDeviceList version number https://review.openstack.org/201280 | 14:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Nikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova: objects: send PciDeviceList 1.2 to all code that can handle it https://review.openstack.org/202616 | 14:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Shiina, Hironori proposed openstack/nova: Add a Nova API to inject an NMI https://review.openstack.org/202617 | 14:59 |
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| edleafe | jlearman: Yeah, that sounds like a good setup | 15:01 |
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| andreykurilin | alex_xu: from Monday:) but I'll available in the evening first 3 days. feel free to change them, if I'll be unavailable:) | 15:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Sudipta Biswas proposed openstack/nova: Allow NUMA based reporting for Monitors https://review.openstack.org/198972 | 15:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Sudipta Biswas proposed openstack/nova: Base enablement for memory bandwidth monitor https://review.openstack.org/202623 | 15:02 |
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| andreykurilin | alex_xu: *from Monday and till 31 July | 15:03 |
| jaypipes | dansmith: super easy one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202501/ | 15:03 |
| dansmith | jaypipes: will look in a bit | 15:03 |
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| jroll | jaypipes: hey fyi I revved the ironic multiple compute spec | 15:04 |
| jroll | going to try to get initial code before next week | 15:04 |
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| jaypipes | jroll: coolio. thank you sir! | 15:04 |
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| jroll | np | 15:04 |
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| dansmith | PaulMurray: around? | 15:20 |
| dansmith | jaypipes: on that conductor api thing, I don't get why we need to add the object mocks if we're just removing unused conductor mocks | 15:24 |
| dansmith | jaypipes: it's not like the object calls get turned into conductor calls and we can catch them with either type of mock... | 15:25 |
| jaypipes | dansmith: hmm. | 15:25 |
| dansmith | I guess I'll comment on the review and see if he pops up | 15:26 |
| jaypipes | dansmith: so, for the test_no_op_init_compute_node() one, PaulMurray's code is correcting a bad unit test. The create_mock and service_mock objects are being tested on lines 819-820 to ensure that they are not called. Previously, the test was passing because the mocks were the completely wrong thing (the conductor calls), but now, the tests are passing when referring to the correct thing (ComputeNode.create() and Servi | 15:29 |
| jaypipes | ce.get_by_compute_host) | 15:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: Implement compare-and-swap for instance update https://review.openstack.org/202593 | 15:30 |
| jaypipes | dansmith: for the test_compute_node_loaded() test, same thing. line 855 is testing that the ComputeNode.create() method is NOT called, which is the correct assertion. the test was previously passing because the wrong thing was being mocked (and of course, the assertion that the mock was not called was passing as a false positive) | 15:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Add 'hw_cpu_threads_policy' image metadata prop https://review.openstack.org/202647 | 15:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Add 'cpu_policy' and 'cpu_threads_policy' fields https://review.openstack.org/202648 | 15:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Add 'hw:cpu_threads_policy=avoid' filtering https://review.openstack.org/202649 | 15:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: trivial: Add some logs to 'numa_topology_filter' https://review.openstack.org/202650 | 15:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Add 'hw:cpu_threads_policy=require' scheduling https://review.openstack.org/202651 | 15:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Add 'hw:cpu_threads_policy=separate' scheduling https://review.openstack.org/202652 | 15:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Make use of 'InstanceNUMACell.cpu_policy' field https://review.openstack.org/202653 | 15:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: trivial: Make use of 'CPUAllocation' enum values https://review.openstack.org/202654 | 15:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Add 'hw:cpu_threads_policy=isolate' scheduling https://review.openstack.org/202655 | 15:31 |
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| dansmith | jaypipes: my point is, the objects don't make the conductor calls | 15:32 |
| dansmith | jaypipes: so if the code is using the objects, it should have been failing before without those mocks | 15:32 |
| dansmith | jaypipes: but the patch doesn't change the code, just the test | 15:32 |
| jaypipes | dansmith: the patch corrects the tests that were previously referring to conductor calls and providing false positive assertions about not being called. | 15:33 |
| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: hardware: take into account pages size when computing memory https://review.openstack.org/202504 | 15:34 |
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| jaypipes | dansmith: and the patch simply removes the conducto_api attribute from the resource tracker. | 15:34 |
| dansmith | jaypipes: it doesn't. all it changes are what is mocked out, but the new mocks and the old mocks aren't in the same code path | 15:34 |
| dansmith | jaypipes: let me pull this down and play with it and maybe I can make my point | 15:34 |
| jaypipes | ok | 15:34 |
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| andreykurilin | sdague: Fix for stable/kilo branch of novaclient is ready: https://review.openstack.org/202656 | 15:36 |
| sdague | andreykurilin: thanks | 15:36 |
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| dansmith | jaypipes: I assume it's because we assert that a bunch of things are not called. So we can mock them out for no reason and they're still ... not called :) | 15:37 |
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| sdague | dansmith: what happens to the symbolic compute levels (i.e. kilo) if we backport an rpc change to stable kilo? | 15:40 |
| sdague | do those get bumped? | 15:40 |
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| garyk | mriedem_away: you around? | 15:41 |
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| garyk | we have a serious problem with you have a sec ti talk about https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/1ba72081715869fe6d0ffba3436fb09ef9499335? | 15:41 |
| garyk | not a serious problem with you :) | 15:41 |
| garyk | just a serious problem with the change that you made. https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/1ba72081715869fe6d0ffba3436fb09ef9499335? | 15:42 |
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| garyk | problem is that when an instance gets into error state it can never be deleted… | 15:42 |
| dansmith | sdague: well, in general we don't backport rpc stuff unless it's absolutely critical | 15:42 |
| dansmith | sdague: if we have to, we do it as a .z version.. updating the symbol probably depends on what the change is.. | 15:43 |
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| sdague | ok, I was just thinking of our upgrade testing, which uses the symbol to pin | 15:43 |
| dansmith | sdague: can I ask what the change is before I commit? :) | 15:44 |
| sdague | it came up in doing grenade multinode - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/199091/ | 15:44 |
| sdague | I realized that pinning everyone means they might not be using the latest rpc version on stable | 15:45 |
| sdague | which is the same issue on the pcpu jobs | 15:45 |
| dansmith | sdague: so is this hypothetical? | 15:45 |
| sdague | also, man, did I wish this was in the db instead of in the config | 15:45 |
| sdague | yes, it's a hypothetical question | 15:45 |
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| dansmith | okay, so first off: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/201733/ | 15:46 |
| dansmith | second, if we backport a thing, we do it as a .z and it has to be like fully compatible with the .0 so the pin doesn't matter as much.. we'd be backporting a fix, not a feature, so that should be doable | 15:46 |
| dansmith | moving the pin doesn't really matter because we discard the .z for compatibility checking | 15:47 |
| sdague | dansmith: ok, so https://review.openstack.org/#/c/201733/ kind of excites me. You imagining an admin call to set that in the cluster? | 15:47 |
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| dansmith | sdague: no, it'll be determined by code levels, but the services will be able to decide what to do based on the quorum | 15:48 |
| dansmith | sdague: so, the new rpc version starts being used when you upgrade the last service | 15:48 |
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| dansmith | sdague: in order to make that work for non-rpc things, we need to register api services, which we don't currently do | 15:49 |
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| dansmith | but for rpc pinning purposes it should be enough as-is I think | 15:49 |
| dansmith | we need to land that in lemming so we can use it in mitasktska-whatever-it-is | 15:49 |
| sdague | dansmith: it will remove the need for the config file bit though, right? | 15:50 |
| dansmith | yeah | 15:50 |
| sdague | I'm ok with automatic quorum | 15:50 |
| sdague | though what happens with stale compute_node entries? | 15:50 |
| dansmith | it also means that if we start up and we're older than the oldest version in the db, we can punt on startup | 15:50 |
| sdague | right, yes, all sounds very reasonable. ++ | 15:50 |
| dansmith | sdague: yeah, those'll need to be removed | 15:50 |
| sdague | well, I wonder if we provide an admin API call to just force it, which would flag all the non upgraded compute nodes as down | 15:51 |
| dansmith | not computenode, but service | 15:51 |
| sdague | sure, service | 15:51 |
| dansmith | well, that doesn't really work | 15:52 |
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| dansmith | because if the thing is still up and old, and you just decide it's too old, you need to fence it or shut it down or whatever | 15:52 |
| dansmith | otherwise it'll still consume messages from shared queues and such | 15:52 |
| sdague | it would under the circumstances that it is actually down and not coming back | 15:52 |
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| dansmith | yes | 15:52 |
| sdague | but has stale records | 15:52 |
| sdague | which I would imagine would happen a reasonable amount | 15:53 |
| dansmith | but we can also just make it not start up when it comes back if it's older than the minimum version | 15:53 |
| sdague | right, but the service entries don't auto delete right? | 15:53 |
| dansmith | or rather, older than the oldest still-running node | 15:53 |
| sdague | if the node died | 15:53 |
| sdague | and it's not coming back | 15:53 |
| dansmith | no, but we have a notion of liveness | 15:53 |
| sdague | ok | 15:53 |
| sdague | anyway, right, there might be an edge here, but that's all just details and bugs | 15:53 |
| dansmith | but yes, we still need to not require operators to manually clean up service records for things that are never coming back for sure | 15:54 |
| sdague | ++ on approach | 15:54 |
| dansmith | it's all edge cases I think, but yeah :) | 15:54 |
| sdague | yeh, but they mostly can be worked through in sane ways | 15:54 |
| dansmith | I think so | 15:54 |
| openstackgerrit | heijlong proposed openstack/nova: Add microversion to allow uuid in server show response data https://review.openstack.org/202665 | 15:54 |
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| park_heijlong_ | johnthetubaguy: I finished the last patch for my bp, appreciated for your comments, make you update, thank you | 15:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: Thoughts on atomic host/node transfer during evacuate https://review.openstack.org/202667 | 15:59 |
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| mdbooth | dansmith: Update host and node atomically during evacuate: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202667/1 | 16:00 |
| mdbooth | It's a WIP, very untidy, unit test failures, etc | 16:00 |
| mdbooth | Interesting bits are in compute/api.py and compute/manager.py | 16:01 |
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| mdbooth | Only a couple of lines | 16:01 |
| dansmith | okay | 16:02 |
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| mdbooth | dansmith: That's literally all I'm going to do with it for the moment :) | 16:02 |
| mdbooth | I have no current plans to develop that, it's just an idea, with code | 16:02 |
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| dansmith | seems reasonable | 16:04 |
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| dansmith | might be easier to make objects track the previous version and just let you say "only do this if $attr is what we previously knew it to be" | 16:05 |
| dansmith | i.e. save(consistent=['vm_state', 'task-state', 'host', 'node']) | 16:05 |
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| dansmith | well, maybe s/easier/cleaner/ | 16:06 |
| mdbooth | Yeah | 16:06 |
| mdbooth | Although expected can take a list | 16:06 |
| PaulMurray | hi dansmith - you had a question about the mocks | 16:06 |
| dansmith | PaulMurray: yeah, I commented | 16:06 |
| mdbooth | So task_state: ['REBUILDING', 'SPAWNING'] | 16:06 |
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| dansmith | mdbooth: true, but it's a little different than host and node and other general purpose things | 16:07 |
| mdbooth | Yup | 16:07 |
| tdurakov | bauzas, Hi Sylvain, are you around? | 16:07 |
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| bauzas | tdurakov: not really :/ | 16:08 |
| bauzas | pretty busy | 16:08 |
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| tdurakov | bauzas, short question, how scheduler refactoring is going? what about this one https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1214943 ? | 16:09 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1214943 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Live migration should use the same memory over subscription logic as instance boot" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Sylvain Bauza (sylvain-bauza) | 16:09 |
| mdbooth | dansmith: anyway, I know you were robustifying it, thought that could be a useful tool | 16:09 |
| mdbooth | Let me know if you think it's worth spending time on | 16:09 |
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| mriedem | garyk: that would have been a problem before that revert too | 16:13 |
| garyk | mriedem: ah, ok. i think that the issue is that the task state is not being reverted. i am currenly debugging | 16:14 |
| mriedem | garyk: if you have a stack trace you could see if whatever method is being hit in the compute manager, if it gets to the compute manager, has the @reverts_task_state decorator | 16:14 |
| mriedem | however, if it's only the compute_api.delete that fails and puts it in error state, then yeah that could be a problem | 16:14 |
| garyk | mriedem: i am checking that the reverts task works now | 16:15 |
| mriedem | garyk: fwiw, ankit re-proposed that change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/194063/ | 16:16 |
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| mriedem | but this ^ supposedly has the race issue in mind | 16:16 |
| bauzas | warning, paste bomb | 16:16 |
| bauzas | or rather, gerrit bomb | 16:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Modify Scheduler RPC API select_dests() https://review.openstack.org/199205 | 16:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Prepare filters for using RequestSpec object https://review.openstack.org/197912 | 16:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Use RequestSpec in the ChanceScheduler https://review.openstack.org/199051 | 16:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Add RequestSpec methods for primitiving into dicts https://review.openstack.org/187197 | 16:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Use RequestSpec object in HostManager https://review.openstack.org/191251 | 16:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Use the same pci_requests field for all filters and HostManager https://review.openstack.org/191250 | 16:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Remove unnecessary method in FilterScheduler https://review.openstack.org/188485 | 16:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Consider that all scheduler calls are IO Ops https://review.openstack.org/188486 | 16:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Create RequestSpec object https://review.openstack.org/145528 | 16:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Use RequestSpec object in the FilterScheduler https://review.openstack.org/188487 | 16:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Add two fields to ImageMetaProps object https://review.openstack.org/197911 | 16:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Modify Affinity filter for RequestSpec https://review.openstack.org/202673 | 16:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Modify Aggregate filters for RequestSpec https://review.openstack.org/202674 | 16:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Modify default filters for RequestSpec https://review.openstack.org/202675 | 16:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Modify metric-related filters for RequestSpec https://review.openstack.org/202676 | 16:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Modify NUMA, PCI and num_instances filters for RequestSpec https://review.openstack.org/202677 | 16:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Modify left filters for RequestSpec https://review.openstack.org/202678 | 16:17 |
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| garyk | mriedem: ok, i'll check that | 16:17 |
| * bauzas competing for the Longest Ever Patch Series | 16:17 | |
| garyk | mriedem: nah, it still has that dodgy code: if original_task_state in (task_states.DELETING, | 16:18 |
| garyk | task_states.SOFT_DELETING): | 16:18 |
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| jaypipes | dansmith: right, that's what I was trying (badly) to explain above... | 16:21 |
| ericksonsantos | whooaa | 16:22 |
| ericksonsantos | (about those changes ^) | 16:22 |
| dansmith | jaypipes: you still think the patch is correct? | 16:22 |
| jaypipes | dansmith: yes. | 16:23 |
| chuckcarmack | dims_: Would it be ok I if worked on https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1434866 as a newbie? Its low hanging fruit. | 16:24 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1434866 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "nova-cells and nova-idmapshift missing in documentation" [Low,Triaged] | 16:24 |
| dims_ | chuckcarmack: +1 go for it :) | 16:24 |
| chuckcarmack | dims_: thanks, I'll give it a try | 16:24 |
| dansmith | jaypipes: PaulMurray: the patch is making up for the fact that the patch to convert to objects didn't adjust the tests, right? | 16:24 |
| garyk | mriedem: the revert task state is called - problem is that this does not actually set the task state to None… man this is so broken | 16:25 |
| jaypipes | dansmith: correct. | 16:25 |
| dims_ | chuckcarmack: it's not assigned to anyone so it's fair game, i had a review earlier, feel free to use anything from it which you feel useful | 16:25 |
| dansmith | jaypipes: so that's a change that has nothing to do with "remove conductor api from resource_tracker" | 16:25 |
| dansmith | jaypipes: it's confusing because it seems like we're replacing conductor with objects, but we're not | 16:25 |
| chuckcarmack | dims_: yes, you have a good start on it | 16:25 |
| dansmith | jaypipes: so IMHO, there should be a separate patch that says "in commit $foo we forgot to change the tests, this fixes that" and then let the conductor removal stand on its own | 16:26 |
| jaypipes | dansmith: well, the actual code change does indeed remove the conductor_api attribute frmo the resource tracker. | 16:26 |
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| jaypipes | dansmith: sure, that would be fine with me as well. | 16:26 |
| dansmith | jaypipes: right, but it has nothing to do with the object mock changes | 16:26 |
| jaypipes | sure, understood. | 16:26 |
| PaulMurray | dansmith, yes - only caught it when I removed the conductor api from resource tracker because they were using it to set up the mocks | 16:26 |
| dansmith | yeah | 16:26 |
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| PaulMurray | dansmith, the tests work without the mocks - the mocks are there to check it is doing (or not doing) the calls it should (or shouldn't) | 16:27 |
| dansmith | if you want to keep them as one patch, please call it out very specifically in the commit message, but I'd still prefer two | 16:27 |
| dansmith | PaulMurray: yeah, I know | 16:27 |
| PaulMurray | sorry - I should read back | 16:27 |
| dansmith | the problem is that it's confusing because it seems like you're removing the conductor usage and replacing it with objects usage, and you're not | 16:27 |
| dansmith | and since the test is testing for things that never happen, I think it'd be better to be super explicit about it | 16:28 |
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| dansmith | because later when that test is failing, and this is the last patch that touched it.. we won't remember that the previously patch actually made the change and this one just silently cleaned up the tests | 16:28 |
| PaulMurray | well, actually the tests test for something that should never happen. If the code is wrong they might catch it | 16:28 |
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| dansmith | right, isn't that what I said? :) | 16:29 |
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| PaulMurray | This patch was intended to remove conductor_api from resource tracker. In doing that I found those tests broke because they were wrong - so I corrected them | 16:31 |
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| PaulMurray | Do you want me to change the tests too? | 16:32 |
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| dansmith | PaulMurray: I think you should fix the tests in patch 1, and remove conductor in patch 2 | 16:32 |
| PaulMurray | :) | 16:32 |
| PaulMurray | my patches always become 10 patches, even the easy ones | 16:33 |
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| dansmith | PaulMurray: and jaypipes and I will +2 them super quick | 16:33 |
| dansmith | PaulMurray: well, here's the other option | 16:33 |
| dansmith | I can just shut up and you can get someone else to +2 :) | 16:33 |
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| PaulMurray | oh all right then, let me see what I can do...... | 16:34 |
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| dansmith | PaulMurray: just don't worry about it | 16:35 |
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| dansmith | I'll do it myself | 16:35 |
| dansmith | it'll take less time than arguing | 16:35 |
| dansmith | I already have the thing pulled down anywa | 16:35 |
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| edleafe | dansmith: hey, if I argue with you, will you do my work, too? :) | 16:40 |
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| PaulMurray | edleafe, you have to get to a special place with dansmith - It took me 2 years of arguing :) | 16:43 |
| ericksonsantos | lol | 16:43 |
| edleafe | PaulMurray: thanks for the tip! :) | 16:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Remove conductor api from resource tracker https://review.openstack.org/202501 | 16:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Fix test_tracker object mocks https://review.openstack.org/202690 | 16:44 |
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| PaulMurray | dansmith, thanks a lot - I have to rush to get my car from servicing before they lock me out | 16:44 |
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| dansmith | PaulMurray: np | 16:44 |
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| dansmith | edleafe: at least you know that my motive is just to get it right and not to be nitpicky for the sake of it because it costs me nothing | 16:45 |
| edleafe | dansmith: of course - just having a little fun with ya | 16:46 |
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| tdurakov | mriedem, hi | 16:49 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: FYI https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/request-spec-object,n,z becomes very fat, it would be awesome if you could review some of them :) | 16:49 |
| tdurakov | mriedem, could you take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/184495/ ansd subsequent one? | 16:50 |
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| jaypipes | bauzas: will do this evening. | 16:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova: Allow for migration object to be passed to _move_claim https://review.openstack.org/199679 | 16:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Nikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova: rt: generalize claim code to be useful for other move actions https://review.openstack.org/197138 | 16:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Nikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova: rt: move filtering of mygration by type lower in the call stack https://review.openstack.org/199678 | 16:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Nikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova: compute: Make rebuild_instance RPC take an optional migration https://review.openstack.org/200485 | 16:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Nikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova: Define migration states and transitions and use when changing status https://review.openstack.org/197669 | 16:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Nikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova: Introduce a simple state machine module https://review.openstack.org/197668 | 16:53 |
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| ndipanov | mriedem, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/201280/ | 16:54 |
| ndipanov | still waiting for the check though :( | 16:54 |
| garyk | mriedem: problem is that there is an exception in the compute node - for example unable to delete disks. the task state is updated correctly. subsequent deletes are not sent to the compute node. still trying to understand why. problem is restarting services hs it working | 16:55 |
| ndipanov | but would be good to land this and the kilo backport soon if possible | 16:55 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy: if you are still awake - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/152703 was the provider networks in the config drive thing that infra wanted last cycle, but missed the deadline. Curious on your thinking | 16:55 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sdague: ah, yeah | 16:56 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sdague: we could raise the priority in the hope it gets more attention? | 16:57 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy: sure, though, honestly, it's a single review, and you were one of the ones that were interested in that particular case | 16:58 |
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| sdague | I was poking you as an interested reviewer, not as ptl :) | 16:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/200708 | 17:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Guryanov proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: do relative block rebase only with non-null base https://review.openstack.org/202442 | 17:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Ming Yang proposed openstack/nova: Case-insensitive filters https://review.openstack.org/201725 | 17:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Ming Yang proposed openstack/nova: Refactor get_filtered_hosts in filter host manager https://review.openstack.org/192878 | 17:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Fix test_tracker object mocks https://review.openstack.org/202690 | 17:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Remove conductor api from resource tracker https://review.openstack.org/202501 | 17:17 |
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| dansmith | jaypipes: just fixed commit message wrapping and added co-authored for PaulMurray: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202690/2' | 17:19 |
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| jaypipes | dansmith: pushed. | 17:20 |
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| bauzas | jaypipes: ack, thanks | 17:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Guryanov proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: resize ploop disks with prl_disk_tool https://review.openstack.org/182390 | 17:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Vilobh Meshram proposed openstack/nova: WIP : Servicegroup foundational refactoring for Control Plane https://review.openstack.org/202714 | 17:36 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: ah, sorry, yeah, was attempting to multitask and failed | 17:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Moshe Levi proposed openstack/nova: Adding support for InfiniBand SR-IOV vif type https://review.openstack.org/187052 | 17:38 |
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| vilobhmm | johnthetubaguy : ping | 17:41 |
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| johnthetubaguy | vilobhmm: hi | 17:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Deprecate the osapi_v3.enabled option https://review.openstack.org/202724 | 17:52 |
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| vilobhmm | johnthetubaguy : regarding the code freeze for L release ; will WIP suffice to the creteria for a feature to be accepted for L release….because as per your update code needs to be up by 16th and needs to be merged by july 30th…i have one feature where i am missing unit tests (which I will try but might not be able to complete by 16th) and hence proposed them as WIP…so thought will check with you | 17:53 |
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| dguryanov|2 | Hello! | 17:59 |
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| dguryanov|2 | Could someone, please, look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202442/ . It a fix for a bug, introduced few days ago. Several cinder CI's are blocked by it. | 18:00 |
| dims_ | mriedem: getting my pm? :) | 18:00 |
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| dansmith | dims_: earlier he told me he was busy | 18:02 |
| dims_ | dansmith: thanks! | 18:02 |
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| dansmith | but he might've just been avoiding me | 18:02 |
| dims_ | haha | 18:02 |
| dansmith | (for obvious reasons) | 18:02 |
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| mgagne | I'm having an issue with Nova kilo (2015.1.0) (with cells) where the instance_extra.flavor field in the api cell is not properly updated after a resize. (the field in compute cell is properly updated) Is there any known bugs and/or fix for it? | 18:10 |
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| ndipanov | dansmith, https://review.openstack.org/202732 | 18:19 |
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| dansmith | ndipanov: I did it this morning | 18:19 |
| dansmith | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202641/ | 18:20 |
| dansmith | sorry, I thought it was clear I would do it | 18:20 |
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| ndipanov | dansmith, fwiw mine is cleaner :P | 18:22 |
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| ndipanov | dansmith, can you +2 the kilo backport of that version fix if it pasess check today | 18:23 |
| ndipanov | I'd need to drop off soon | 18:23 |
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| dansmith | did the master patch succeed? | 18:23 |
| ndipanov | well the check is still running seems like it's pretty backed up :( | 18:23 |
| ndipanov | it's running now | 18:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Add version counter to Service object https://review.openstack.org/201733 | 18:37 |
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| johnthetubaguy | vilobhmm: so the deadline was today really, and it has to be complete and ready for review not WIP by the end of today, if that happens do drop me an email | 18:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Nikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova: objects: Don't import CellMapping from the objects module https://review.openstack.org/202737 | 18:38 |
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| johnthetubaguy | vilobhmm: sorry I have to sign off now, just got dragged into a meeting when you pinged me | 18:38 |
| ndipanov | dansmith, a light objects one ^ | 18:39 |
| * ndipanov & | 18:39 | |
| vilobhmm | johnthetubaguy : np..will try and let you know | 18:39 |
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| vilobhmm | jaypipes : ping | 18:41 |
| vilobhmm | dansmith : ping | 18:41 |
| melwitt | mgagne: I don't think that's a known bug cc alaski | 18:42 |
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| mgagne | melwitt: trying to backport the patch atm | 18:42 |
| mgagne | melwitt: and see if it fixes anything | 18:43 |
| alaski | melwitt: it was never reported before, because it was fixed by instance_udpate_at_top going to objects | 18:43 |
| melwitt | alaski: ah, okay | 18:44 |
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| alaski | melwitt: I was just chatting in #openstack-operators with mgagne so I already had context :) | 18:47 |
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| dansmith | vilobhmm: ack | 18:50 |
| melwitt | alaski: nice! I was wondering, did I miss something? heh | 18:50 |
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| vilobhmm | dansmith : today saw a bug in resource tracker code and thought will check with you if you have some time | 18:54 |
| dansmith | vilobhmm: I'm not the best to ask about RT stuff, but you can try | 18:55 |
| vilobhmm | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/resource_tracker.py#L771 if reserved_host_disk_mb is never set and if used the default value ; "self.compute_node.local_gb_used" will always return 0 | 18:55 |
| vilobhmm | which is bad ! IMHO | 18:55 |
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| vilobhmm | and can lead to -ve values in disk space calculations | 18:56 |
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| vilobhmm | its been the same since many releases now | 18:56 |
| vilobhmm | dansmith : ^^ | 18:56 |
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| vilobhmm | the fix is trivial and if needed can submit a patch for it… | 18:57 |
| mriedem | vilobhmm: just report a bug and push up a change for review | 18:57 |
| mriedem | if you think there is an issue | 18:58 |
| dansmith | vilobhmm: I think that's well-understood actually | 18:58 |
| dansmith | vilobhmm: I think jaypipes would be the one to ask | 18:58 |
| vilobhmm | mriedem : agree…since i am new to resource tracker thought will check dansmith or jaypipes … | 18:59 |
| mriedem | local_gb_used would be 0 so you're not reserving any disk gb for the host | 18:59 |
| vilobhmm | mriedem : will do | 18:59 |
| vilobhmm | mriedem : so does it mean that the code behaves as expected | 19:00 |
| mriedem | it appears so | 19:00 |
| vilobhmm | if so then when we used local_gb_used to calculate free_space it report inconsistent values | 19:00 |
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| vilobhmm | sometimes even -ve values | 19:01 |
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| vilobhmm | for free_space | 19:01 |
| mriedem | vilobhmm: maybe read up on the original change for reasons https://review.openstack.org/#/c/13182/ | 19:01 |
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| vilobhmm | mriedem : alrite…lemme check | 19:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: move LibvirtISCSIVolumeDriver into it's own module https://review.openstack.org/202301 | 19:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: move LibvirtISERVolumeDriver into it's own module https://review.openstack.org/197311 | 19:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: move volume/remotefs/quobyte modules under volume subdir https://review.openstack.org/193223 | 19:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: move LibvirtNETVolumeDriver into it's own module https://review.openstack.org/197341 | 19:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: move LibvirtNFSVolumeDriver into it's own module https://review.openstack.org/196859 | 19:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: move the LibvirtScalityVolumeDriver into it's own module https://review.openstack.org/193249 | 19:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: move lvm/dmcrypt/rbd_utils modules under storage subdir https://review.openstack.org/193195 | 19:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: move LibvirtAOEVolumeDriver into it's own module https://review.openstack.org/196276 | 19:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: move the LibvirtQuobyteVolumeDriver into the quobyte module https://review.openstack.org/193236 | 19:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: move LibvirtFibreChannelVolumeDriver into it's own module https://review.openstack.org/193278 | 19:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: move LibvirtGlusterfsVolumeDriver into it's own module https://review.openstack.org/193380 | 19:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: move fibre channel specific utilities into fc module https://review.openstack.org/193317 | 19:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: move the LibvirtGPFSVolumeDriver into it's own module https://review.openstack.org/193240 | 19:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: move LibvirtSMBFSVolumeDriver into it's own module https://review.openstack.org/196380 | 19:03 |
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| nagyz_ | can anybody enlighten me about keystone's authtoken's auth_uri vs identity_uri? I know this is not #openstack-keystone but maybe the folks here know :-) and I'm not getting an answer there. | 19:08 |
| nagyz_ | I see that in the nova docs we're setting auth_uri AND auth_url | 19:09 |
| nagyz_ | but not identity_uri | 19:09 |
| mriedem | jamielennox: ^ | 19:09 |
| dansmith | keystone midcycle is going right now | 19:09 |
| dansmith | hence the lack of people on irc I bet | 19:09 |
| nagyz_ | ah | 19:10 |
| mriedem | so that's where bknudson has been all week... | 19:10 |
| mriedem | i knew he didn't take vacations... | 19:10 |
| nagyz_ | it was exactly jamielennox's code that tripped me over in heat actually which I spent like 3 hours tracking down yesterday | 19:10 |
| nagyz_ | I've got back the (not-so-user-friendly) exception of NoneType not having a replace function from like 100 layers deep.. without the original exception's origin. :) | 19:10 |
| * nagyz_ loves python | 19:11 | |
| ndipanov | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/201280/ mriedem pls | 19:11 |
| ndipanov | and the kilo backport | 19:11 |
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| mgagne | I would like a second opinion on this (yet to merge) review because I think we are clearly ending in the wrong direction: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/152703/5 | 19:36 |
| sambol | alex_xu: I'm starting on the next part of the V3 code restructure, moving the V2.1 code to the correct directories. cc/ edleafe zsais | 19:37 |
| tonyb | mgagne: It's +W and running through the check queue now, so I think it's too late for a second opinion. | 19:39 |
| mgagne | tonyb: I think we need to reconsider it and revert it if necessary | 19:40 |
| tonyb | mgagne: Sure, a revert is possible | 19:40 |
| mgagne | the change got approved less than 2 hours after a supportive comment although serious concerns were raised previously. I didn't have time to raised my own concerns due to time constraint. | 19:42 |
| jlearman | Running tox for the first time, stuff is missing such as pg_config and xslt-config, which I installed from libpq-dev and libxslt1.dev. Now, "pyconfig.h" is missing. Did I miss an important step when installing Ubuntu 14.04? | 19:48 |
| sdague | it's not too late, the point is right now this is a legit problem for infra cloud coming online | 19:48 |
| sdague | to give everyone additional resources to run tests with | 19:48 |
| sdague | and it doesn't hurt anyone else | 19:49 |
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| dansmith | it does affect our guests | 19:52 |
| dansmith | and it's kindof undoable from that point of view | 19:52 |
| dansmith | TBH, I didn't vote on this because it makes me uneasy as well | 19:52 |
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| dansmith | (I also didn't -1 it either) | 19:52 |
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| sdague | well, if we want to hold till next week to talk it through, that's fine. I guess I didn't see the concern in exposing provider networks if that's the way you configured your network | 19:53 |
| jroll | sdague: mgagne makes a valid point there, I think | 19:54 |
| sdague | jenkins rando failed it anyway | 19:54 |
| lifeless | jlearman: sadly yes, thats commonly tricky. You might find https://rbtcollins.wordpress.com/2015/07/12/bootstrapping-developer-environments-for-openstack/ helpful | 19:54 |
| mgagne | jroll: we already implemented all the blueprint locally a couple of months ago. I know the baremetal use case is very valid. but we have to think more about it then just exposing everything and hope cloud-init will know what to do with it. | 19:55 |
| jroll | mgagne: yeah, I think I agree with you | 19:55 |
| mgagne | jroll: we made the exposition of vlan info conditional based on the compute driver | 19:55 |
| jroll | my colleague wrote the patch, I primarily work on ironic as well, I'll be around next week if we want to talk about it | 19:56 |
| sdague | ok, but this is coming off the provider networks only from neutron, which means you are only going to get this information if you are on provider networks right? | 19:56 |
| dansmith | yeah, that pretty much sucks | 19:56 |
| dansmith | conditional networkinfo based on the compute driver | 19:56 |
| sdague | which means you were given a port | 19:56 |
| mgagne | sdague: we use provider networks in our virtual cloud | 19:56 |
| dansmith | even if it is "ironic is special" | 19:56 |
| mgagne | sdague: and virtual instance aren't using vlan interfaces. it is transparent | 19:57 |
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| jroll | so, like I said, I'll be at the sprint next week. if y'all want to set aside an hour to hash this out I'm very +1 on that | 19:57 |
| mgagne | dansmith: it really depends on how you wish to expose the network to the baremetal: access or trunk mode | 19:57 |
| jroll | there's valid points here. | 19:57 |
| jlearman | Thanks, lifeless! | 19:58 |
| dansmith | mgagne: yeah, but that doesn't need to be virt-driver-specific | 19:58 |
| sdague | so, it would probably be worth getting mordred and jeblair into the conversation as well, because this is basically their needed feature | 19:58 |
| mgagne | dansmith: virt driver specific is ONE possible implementation which I happen to use and fit my need | 19:59 |
| jroll | it might also depend on the neutron backend | 19:59 |
| dansmith | mgagne: okay, sure | 19:59 |
| mgagne | dansmith: the case is virtual instance shouldn't be exposed to this information because they don't need it | 19:59 |
| dansmith | having a -1 from a neutron core is kindof bad form for us to merge, IMHO | 19:59 |
| mgagne | dansmith: and will only cause confusion | 19:59 |
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| sdague | ok, I'll hold. mgagne can you get this out on the mailing list for discussion, because all the parties involved are not going to be in any one location | 20:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Add version counter to Service object https://review.openstack.org/201733 | 20:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Giridhar Jayavelu proposed openstack/nova: Derive resource quota from Flavor's extra_spec when attaching interface to an instance https://review.openstack.org/196171 | 20:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Giridhar Jayavelu proposed openstack/nova: Create a new dictionary for type_data in VMwareAPIVMTestCase class https://review.openstack.org/202768 | 20:10 |
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| melwitt | dansmith: you need to create your blueprint on that one :) | 20:14 |
| dansmith | melwitt: what? | 20:14 |
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| dansmith | oh | 20:15 |
| dansmith | service-version-nuymber? | 20:15 |
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| dansmith | melwitt: done.. I'll let johnthetubaguy do the approval bits so it doesn't look like I'm approving my own stuff :) | 20:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Anthony Lee proposed openstack/nova: Fix live-migrations usage of the wrong connector information https://review.openstack.org/202770 | 20:18 |
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| mordred | sdague: what did I do? | 20:25 |
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| sdague | mordred: there was some discussion of the patch to get the provider network info into config drive | 20:25 |
| sdague | and concerns | 20:26 |
| mordred | ya- there was a discussion with jroll and devananda a while ago in #openstack-ironic too | 20:26 |
| sdague | ok | 20:26 |
| sdague | how about we get this out to the mailing list | 20:26 |
| sdague | because there are a lot of pockets of people | 20:26 |
| mordred | so - I agree that exposing vlan info to a guest that does not need vlan info is silly | 20:26 |
| jroll | sdague: +1 | 20:26 |
| mordred | but that's the nice thing about the format of the metadata | 20:26 |
| sdague | and I don't think they are talking to each other | 20:26 |
| sdague | but, I'm running away for beer o'clock, because I just got grenade multinode d-g actually working, doing the right thing, and passing all the tests | 20:27 |
| mordred | ugh. :( That means I'll have to read a mailing list thread - but ok | 20:27 |
| mordred | I honestly have zero ideas why this is problematic - but maybe the mailing list thread will illuminate them for me | 20:28 |
| sdague | right, so someone start that thread who is vested in this. | 20:28 |
| sdague | ok, beer | 20:28 |
| mordred | I'll send an email | 20:28 |
| mordred | shoudl I tag it with nova, neutron and ironic | 20:28 |
| mordred | ? | 20:28 |
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| dansmith | come on | 20:29 |
| dansmith | you can do better than that | 20:29 |
| dansmith | and your tags better have parameters | 20:29 |
| clarkb | [tags] | 20:29 |
| jroll | [all] [vlan] [tags] [neutron] [nova] [ironic] [magnum] | 20:29 |
| jlearman | Trying to run openstack for the first time, getting "ERROR: openstack No user with a name or ID of '4268ea30f4154909844eaa6a788dc376' exists." Any clues? | 20:29 |
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| dansmith | [nova:network=neutron:relevance=50%:priority=12][neutron:driver=foo:priority=27][ironic:isweird=True] | 20:30 |
| jroll | lol | 20:30 |
| mordred | oh god | 20:30 |
| jroll | nice. | 20:30 |
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| jlearman | the emotes really improve it | 20:31 |
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| mordred | mgagne: oh! I think I see from your comment where we may be missing each other | 20:32 |
| mordred | mgagne: and it's possible that I'm looking at the consumption not the implementation side | 20:32 |
| mordred | mgagne: I do not believe that vlan information should be included in the instance metadata if the hypervisor has already decapsulated the traffic for you | 20:33 |
| mordred | I agree - that woudl be crazypants | 20:33 |
| mgagne | mordred: yep | 20:33 |
| mgagne | mordred: I already implemented a similar patch into our installation and I do understand the baremetal use case because we did address it (in our way) in our implementation. | 20:33 |
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| mgagne | mordred: addressed in the way you describe | 20:33 |
| mordred | mgagne: great - so is it just the implementation of this patch you have issue with? | 20:34 |
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| mordred | and not the concept of being able to express vlan information in the metadata if it's needed? | 20:34 |
| mgagne | mordred: well yea because it breaks the world | 20:34 |
| mordred | awesome! | 20:34 |
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| mgagne | mordred: vlan is part of the spec | 20:34 |
| mordred | vlan should be an optional part of the spec - and it shoudl be there if and only if the compute target needs to know taht vlan info | 20:34 |
| mgagne | yep | 20:35 |
| mordred | ok. if that is not what's happening here, then I agree with you | 20:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Anthony Lee proposed openstack/nova: Fix live-migrations usage of the wrong connector information https://review.openstack.org/202770 | 20:35 |
| mordred | mgagne: I want glean or cloud-init to be able to look at the metadata and say "oh, look, it says I need a vlan, I should configure it" | 20:35 |
| mgagne | mordred: sure | 20:36 |
| mordred | and have that always work and always be true | 20:36 |
| mgagne | mordred: have fun: https://github.com/jayofdoom/cloud-init-debian-pkg/blob/master/debian/patches/rackspace-onmetal-configdrive.patch | 20:36 |
| mgagne | mordred: if I install a similar cloud-init in a virtual image, everything falls apart | 20:36 |
| mordred | mgagne: oh - I don't use cloud-init :) | 20:36 |
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| mordred | mgagne: I wrote a minimal replacement that only does network and ssh keys | 20:37 |
| mgagne | mordred: well, we have to considerate other sane people too =) | 20:37 |
| mordred | mgagne: looking at the spec, I expect it will take me approx 20 minutes to add the vlan support to it once we agree on an input format | 20:37 |
| mordred | mgagne: :) | 20:37 |
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| mordred | mgagne: you shoudl start using glean!!! | 20:37 |
| jroll | mgagne: sane people don't use cloud-init :P | 20:37 |
| mgagne | mordred: I provide solutions for common people =) | 20:38 |
| lifeless | I really wish I understood the hate-on that folk have for cloud-init | 20:38 |
| lifeless | I realise its become crufty | 20:38 |
| jroll | source: I use cloud-init | 20:38 |
| mordred | lifeless: too complex | 20:38 |
| mgagne | works for me | 20:38 |
| lifeless | but it still solves the core use cases | 20:38 |
| mordred | lifeless: does completely unnecessary things | 20:38 |
| mordred | lifeless: we're having to work aroudn like 8 things that cloud-init breaks in infra right now | 20:38 |
| mgagne | only problem I have is that it's hard as hell to get stuff merged upstream | 20:38 |
| lifeless | mordred: which can all be turned off | 20:38 |
| lifeless | mordred: (AIUI) | 20:39 |
| mordred | lifeless: OR - I could just not have a thing installed on my system which consistently breaks it in the first place | 20:39 |
| * mgagne opened a can of worms | 20:39 | |
| mordred | rather than installing a complex piece of software which I think include complex configs for disabling much of | 20:39 |
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| lifeless | mgagne: indeed | 20:39 |
| mordred | s/think/then can/ | 20:39 |
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| mgagne | ok, let me reword that: please consider insane people who didn't discover the light yet =) | 20:40 |
| mordred | lifeless: I do not need a remote shell execution environment that is in addition to ssh. I have ssh. ssh is consistent and debuggable. | 20:40 |
| mordred | mgagne: hahaha. nice :) | 20:40 |
| mgagne | mordred: so the way I addressed it is by making the ironic driver includes extra data in the instance so I can determine if network info should include vlan info or not. | 20:41 |
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| mordred | mgagne: how did you get the extra data into the instance? | 20:41 |
| mordred | mgagne: (if there is an eas(y|ier) way to solve this, I'm in) | 20:41 |
| mgagne | mordred: by patching ironic driver and updating instance_system_metadata | 20:41 |
| mordred | mgagne: sorry - I asked a vague question | 20:42 |
| mordred | mgagne: how does that cause that information to be communicated into the inside of the instance? | 20:42 |
| dansmith | mgagne: :( | 20:42 |
| mgagne | mordred: a big if/else | 20:42 |
| mordred | mgagne: where? | 20:42 |
| mgagne | mordred: in network info implementation | 20:42 |
| mgagne | mordred: we have our own because upstream wasn't ready yet | 20:42 |
| mordred | ok - so you're still using teh network_info.json as the communication vehicle | 20:42 |
| mgagne | mordred: sure | 20:42 |
| mordred | AWESOME | 20:42 |
| mordred | that's literally all I care about | 20:43 |
| mgagne | mordred: you just have to provide the right info | 20:43 |
| mordred | if it takes 2 more years to figure out the right way to get the information into network_info.json that's fine with me | 20:43 |
| mordred | I just want to know that the network_info.json interface is a thing | 20:43 |
| mordred | that I can use | 20:43 |
| mordred | inside of the instance | 20:43 |
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| mordred | from config-drive | 20:43 |
| mgagne | mordred: well I already waited 2 years :-/ | 20:43 |
| jroll | mgagne: I'd love to see your patch | 20:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Introduce LibvirtBaseFileSystemVolumeDriver https://review.openstack.org/202777 | 20:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: convert NFS volume driver to LibvirtBaseFileSystemVolumeDriver https://review.openstack.org/202778 | 20:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: convert SMBFS vol driver to LibvirtBaseFileSystemVolumeDriver https://review.openstack.org/202779 | 20:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: convert GlusterFS driver to LibvirtBaseFileSystemVolumeDriver https://review.openstack.org/202780 | 20:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: convert GPFS volume driver to LibvirtBaseFileSystemVolumeDriver https://review.openstack.org/202781 | 20:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: convert Quotbyte driver to LibvirtBaseFileSystemVolumeDriver https://review.openstack.org/202782 | 20:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: convert Scality vol driver to LibvirtBaseFileSystemVolumeDriver https://review.openstack.org/202783 | 20:44 |
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| mgagne | jroll: nothing special tbh. if baremetal: else: | 20:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: convert Scality vol driver to LibvirtBaseFileSystemVolumeDriver https://review.openstack.org/202783 | 20:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: convert Quobyte driver to LibvirtBaseFileSystemVolumeDriver https://review.openstack.org/202782 | 20:44 |
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| tonyb | c | 20:49 |
| tonyb | stupid macos and no focus follows mouse! | 20:50 |
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| mriedem | nova meeting in 8 minutes | 20:52 |
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| tonyb | Hey I can do that one ;P How very novel | 20:52 |
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| jroll | johnthetubaguy: I went looking for a blueprint and noticed this should have been approved as it was landed in kilo https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/use-configdrive-with-ironic | 21:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | jroll: ah, oops, good heads up | 21:30 |
| johnthetubaguy | jroll: I marked that as implemented in kilo, I think | 21:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Jim Rollenhagen proposed openstack/nova-specs: Ironic: Multiple compute host support https://review.openstack.org/194453 | 21:31 |
| jroll | johnthetubaguy: cool, just noticed it was pending approval so thought I'd point it out | 21:31 |
| johnthetubaguy | jroll: we unapprove when it gets bumped from a release | 21:32 |
| jroll | johnthetubaguy: right, it didn't get bumped, it fully landed in kilo. | 21:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | jroll: I guess it got merged anyways | 21:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | jroll: it probably missed feature freeze, but merged afterwards, or something | 21:33 |
| jroll | gotcha | 21:33 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: I think I got those all approved now | 21:35 |
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| gabriel-bezerra | johnthetubaguy: that code has not been queued into Zuul yet. Is it normal? | 21:42 |
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| gabriel-bezerra | https://review.openstack.org/190675 | 21:42 |
| gabriel-bezerra | dansmith: ^ | 21:43 |
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| gabriel-bezerra | johnthetubaguy: I've just talked to -infra people. Can you remove the -2 from the patch, please? Zuul won't enqueue while the -2 be there: https://review.openstack.org/190675 | 21:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jim Rollenhagen proposed openstack/nova: Fix deleted markers with changed-since https://review.openstack.org/202812 | 22:08 |
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| andreykurilin__ | johnthetubaguy: hi | 22:19 |
| andreykurilin__ | Can you look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202656/ ? This a fix for stable/kilo branch of novaclient, which is broken now. | 22:19 |
| andreykurilin__ | johnthetubaguy: ^ | 22:20 |
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| tonyb | andreykurilin__: I think you've missed johnthetubaguy it's 11pm for him. | 22:22 |
| andreykurilin__ | tonyb: oh...got it. thanks:( | 22:23 |
| edleafe | tonyb: saw that you pinged me yesterday. Wassup? | 22:24 |
| tonyb | edleafe: You're in San Antonio right? | 22:24 |
| edleafe | tonyb: yep | 22:25 |
| edleafe | tonyb: you headed to mother ship before the midcycle? | 22:25 |
| tonyb | edleafe: wanna grab lunch or a beer? | 22:25 |
| tonyb | edleafe: I'm presently in the mother ship | 22:25 |
| edleafe | tonyb: can't tonight - daughter's birthday | 22:26 |
| edleafe | tonyb: how long are you around? | 22:26 |
| tonyb | edleafe: okay np | 22:26 |
| tonyb | I fly to MN on Monday. | 22:26 |
| edleafe | tonyb: me too | 22:26 |
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| edleafe | tonyb: you got plans for tomorrow? | 22:27 |
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| tonyb | edleafe: Just work, but if you're free I can ditch that ;P | 22:27 |
| edleafe | tonyb: heh | 22:28 |
| edleafe | tonyb: ibm is a little stricter :) | 22:29 |
| edleafe | tonyb: how about later in the day? Where are you staying? | 22:29 |
| tonyb | Aloft near the airport | 22:29 |
| tonyb | edleafe: but I'll probably pick up a car tomorrow at some stage. | 22:29 |
| * tonyb shoudl book that ;P | 22:30 | |
| edleafe | tonyb: wanna meet at Lion & Rose next door? | 22:30 |
| tonyb | edleafe: Sure. That's pretty easy and I'm told that do whiskey samplers ;P | 22:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Fix the incorrect PciDeviceList version number https://review.openstack.org/201280 | 22:58 |
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| kfox1111 | can you tag flavors with metadata that isn't used by the schedular? | 23:18 |
| kfox1111 | (something magnum can look at?) | 23:18 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/200708 | 23:19 |
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| mriedem | kfox1111: i'm not aware of validation on extra_specs having specific keys | 23:36 |
| kfox1111 | looking at the docs, it looks like the schedular uses al the values to filter, and if I throw some magnum something key in there, it may cause the vm to fail to launch? | 23:37 |
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| kfox1111 | can a filter remove stuff from extra_specs before it goes to the next filter? | 23:42 |
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| melwitt | kfox1111: I don't think so. I think if a filter doesn't care about a key, it will ignore it. but I don't know for certain | 23:49 |
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| kfox1111 | I'm thinking I've tagged some flavors with a piece of metadata, and then put the same key/value in a host aggregate to pin flavors to aggregates. | 23:50 |
| kfox1111 | I think that use case might break if arbitrary extra metadata's added to extra specs. | 23:50 |
| kfox1111 | nova/filter.py line 89, looks like it does not allow a class to remove filter_properties? | 23:52 |
| kfox1111 | except.... it looks like its passing in a hash.. that should be by reference. so changes to it should propigate... | 23:54 |
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| melwitt | yes, that is a thing you can do to pin flavors to host aggregates | 23:55 |
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| kfox1111 | so it would break without a filter of some kind to remove the extra_spec before it hit the host aggrigate filter. | 23:56 |
| kfox1111 | its looking like it would be possible to write such a filter... not sure how nova would feal about such a thing though. thoughts? | 23:56 |
| mriedem1 | kfox1111: out of tree filters aren't a new thing | 23:57 |
| kfox1111 | yeah, but the api kind of is for filtering out hosts that dont match the extra spec info. its a bit of a strange use to have the filter just leave the list untouched and tweak the extra spec data itself. | 23:58 |
| melwitt | kfox1111: why do you think you need to remove an arbitrary extra_spec? I don't see what you mean in nova/filters.py | 23:59 |
| kfox1111 | ok. example. | 23:59 |
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