Wednesday, 2015-05-06

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-openstackstatus- NOTICE: Restarted gerrit due to stuck stream-events connections. Events since 23:49 were missed and changes uploaded since then will need to be rechecked.00:43
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openstackgerritEli Qiao proposed openstack/nova: API: remove admin require from compute_node_get_all_by_* from db layer  https://review.openstack.org/17533400:54
openstackgerritEli Qiao proposed openstack/nova: API: Add policy enforcement test cases for pci API  https://review.openstack.org/17574500:54
openstackgerritEli Qiao proposed openstack/nova: API: remove admin require for compute_node(get_all/search_by_hyperviso) from db  https://review.openstack.org/17574400:54
openstackgerritEli Qiao proposed openstack/nova: API: remove admin require for compute_node_create/update/delete from db layer  https://review.openstack.org/17569300:54
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openstackgerritEli Qiao proposed openstack/nova: API: remove admin require from certificate_* from db layer  https://review.openstack.org/17664801:00
openstackgerritshihanzhang proposed openstack/nova: Optimize validate_networks  https://review.openstack.org/17574201:01
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openstackgerritzhangtralon proposed openstack/nova: filter_class_names is never passed  https://review.openstack.org/14328501:07
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openstackgerritLingxian Kong proposed openstack/nova: Correct az property of instance when specifying force host/node  https://review.openstack.org/16384201:09
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openstackgerritVincent Hou proposed openstack/nova: Correct the order of the parameters to call swap_volume  https://review.openstack.org/17430701:52
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: Use oslo-config-generator instead of generate_sample.sh  https://review.openstack.org/18001302:20
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openstackgerritwanghao proposed openstack/nova: Allow bdm boot_index=1 when creating vm from image  https://review.openstack.org/17198403:08
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openstackgerritKylin CG proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Make _discover_extensions public  https://review.openstack.org/17106703:49
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mikalAnyone here understand rbd?04:31
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openstackgerritmelanie witt proposed openstack/nova: WIP: send object to cells instance_update_at_top  https://review.openstack.org/17651804:37
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cfriesenlooks like zuul is still failing for nova?04:55
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openstackgerritChris Friesen proposed openstack/nova: fix network setup on evacuate  https://review.openstack.org/16982706:03
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openstackgerritKylin CG proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Make _discover_extensions public  https://review.openstack.org/17106706:11
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Kennan2hi guys07:04
Kennan2I used stable/kilo and deploied instance07:04
Kennan2and use nova console-log07:04
Kennan2it have nothing to output07:04
Kennan2does anyone know what's can cause such issue?07:05
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sahidKennan2: so the instance is up and running ?07:10
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sahidKennan2: (actually this kind of help can be found in #openstack, here is more of dev issues)07:11
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Kennan2adhid:07:42
Kennan2the instance is running and up07:42
Kennan2:sahid07:43
Kennan2I am not sureb why console-log is none07:43
Kennan2is it cloud-init issue or something else ?07:43
openstackgerritRui Chen proposed openstack/nova: Fix failure of stopping instances during init host  https://review.openstack.org/16792607:45
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sahidKennan2: the problem can comes from different case, a bad rediction of the console output or an issue in your setup08:02
sahidKennan2: where did you get the image used to boot the instance ?08:02
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openstackgerritTimofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova: Fix availability zone check before live-migration  https://review.openstack.org/18043808:14
RuiChenhi jogo: can you have a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/173680/ again? some question about your comments08:14
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openstackgerritzhangtralon proposed openstack/nova: filter_class_names is never passed  https://review.openstack.org/14328508:20
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openstackgerritHans Lindgren proposed openstack/nova: Add a VolumeUsage object  https://review.openstack.org/18044208:27
openstackgerritHans Lindgren proposed openstack/nova: Replace conductor proxying calls with the new VolumeUsage object  https://review.openstack.org/18044308:27
openstackgerritHans Lindgren proposed openstack/nova: Remove and deprecate unused conductor method vol_usage_update()  https://review.openstack.org/18044408:27
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openstackgerritSylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova-specs: Proposes to check destination on migrations  https://review.openstack.org/17922408:28
openstackgerritJohn Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: devref: add information to clarify nova scope  https://review.openstack.org/17862308:29
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openstackgerritLucas Alvares Gomes proposed openstack/nova: Revert "Ironic: do not destroy if node is in maintenance"  https://review.openstack.org/18044608:31
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openstackgerritJohn Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: devref: add information to clarify nova scope  https://review.openstack.org/17862308:39
openstackgerritgaryk proposed openstack/nova: Resource tracker: use instance objects for claims  https://review.openstack.org/17964908:40
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bauzasjohnthetubaguy: morning08:41
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: by triaging nova bugs, I can see some operators complaining about AZz08:41
bauzasAZs08:41
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: we know that we have some issues with the AZs and how they are managede08:42
* bauzas has fat fingers today08:42
openstackgerritLucas Alvares Gomes proposed openstack/nova: Revert "Ironic: do not destroy if node is in maintenance"  https://review.openstack.org/18044608:43
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bauzasjohnthetubaguy: so we have a few patches for that that I think would need some attention08:43
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: we could also discuss that during the friday meetup or anytime else08:43
johnthetubaguybauzas: thats a good topic for the friday at this point08:44
johnthetubaguybauzas: what sort of patches are you thinking about?08:44
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alex_xujohnthetubaguy: Hi, I put some topic in the etherpad for first api session at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-nova-api let me know if there is any should belong to second session or not worth discuss it, free to remove or edit.08:47
openstackgerritMaxim Nestratov proposed openstack/nova: Add config drive support for PCS containers  https://review.openstack.org/14925308:47
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bauzasjohnthetubaguy: I need to sort all of that out, but here are some I'm thinking about08:48
johnthetubaguyalex_xu: thanks, did you decide who wanted to run these sessions, I don't quite remember now?08:48
alex_xujaypipes: gilliard_afk: ^ ^ hope you can help me check the etherpad also when you back to work, thanks!08:48
alex_xujohnthetubaguy: we didn't decide yet, but I guess Ken08:48
alex_xubut I guess Ken'ichi is best person08:48
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/149562/9 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/172906/3 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/163842/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/180438/08:49
alex_xubauzas: I have fat fingers today also ^08:49
johnthetubaguyalex_xu: OK, cool, thanks08:49
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: that does only show us that AZs are buggy IMHO08:49
johnthetubaguyalex_xu: will look at this later and let you know how it looks!08:49
alex_xujohnthetubaguy: thanks a lot!08:49
johnthetubaguybauzas: what sorts of bugs, I guess I should look at those patches08:50
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: so lots of people are working on their side but we need a big picture here08:50
alex_xujohnthetubaguy: btw, the rest of policy spec worked out https://review.openstack.org/127863 and oslo.policy one https://review.openstack.org/17968508:50
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: bugs about how the instance AZ information is not relevant08:50
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johnthetubaguyalex_xu: cools08:50
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johnthetubaguybauzas: so AZ are not really a feature, its more a random scheduling hack at this point, which is probably where is issues come from08:51
* alex_xu go home now, will back after few hours, and feel cools today08:52
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bauzasjohnthetubaguy: related bugs are https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1390033 https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1431194 https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1451921 but also a BP08:52
openstackLaunchpad bug 1390033 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Inconsistent info of availability zone (az) if the default az is replaced" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Sylvain Bauza (sylvain-bauza)08:52
openstackLaunchpad bug 1431194 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "resize failed because of instance's invalid availability zone property" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Lingxian Kong (kong)08:52
openstackLaunchpad bug 1451921 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "live-migration fails when instance booted without specified availability_zone" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Timofey Durakov (tdurakov)08:52
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: totally agreed, it's just a hack08:52
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: but we also have https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/check-destination-on-migrations that makes it suck08:53
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bauzasjohnthetubaguy: we have hints, we have force_hosts, we have AZs, and then we're migrating without checking all of that08:53
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johnthetubaguybauzas: on purpose though08:54
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johnthetubaguybauzas: migrate is an admin operation, so we go with what they ask for, at least that was the previous discussion08:54
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: the main issue on fixing that is that's a can of worms08:54
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: yup, that I agree08:54
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: I mean, we need to find some way to iteratively fix the bugs08:55
johnthetubaguybauzas: right, I guess I am missing your point here08:55
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: :)08:56
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bauzasjohnthetubaguy: my point is just : it sucks, like quotas, but we can only do small steps08:56
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: so I would just show it up as a friday point :)08:56
johnthetubaguybauzas: we don't persist the scheduler hints the user requested when they boot there instance yet, I thought, or did we add that now?08:57
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bauzasjohnthetubaguy: not yet, you're just hitting another problem :)08:57
openstackgerritEli Qiao proposed openstack/nova: Object: Merge db accesses for extra field of instance  https://review.openstack.org/16007608:57
johnthetubaguybauzas: but how can your spec work without that?08:57
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eliqiao1bauzas : so what fat fingers stand for ?08:58
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: because it's focused on at least checking what can be checked08:58
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: like allocation ratos08:58
bauzasratios08:58
johnthetubaguybauzas: that seems like half a job, which will make it more confusing, if I am brutally honest08:58
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: agreeed that's just half the job, it only cares about only one usecase08:59
johnthetubaguybauzas: but we plan to persist the request spec too, I think should do the full job09:00
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bauzasjohnthetubaguy: yup09:01
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: persisting the spec is only a way to call it, but we need the caller :)09:02
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johnthetubaguybauzas: we need both right, I would say09:02
johnthetubaguyI don't mind doing it in two parts, but that should be mentioned in the spec09:03
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: fair point09:05
tdurakovbauzas: hi!09:06
tdurakovadd comment for you in my patch, could you check?09:06
bauzastdurakov: jumping in a call now, could you please ping me in 1 hour ?09:06
tdurakovyep)09:07
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openstackgerritgustavo panizzo <gfa> proposed openstack/nova: Add nova-idmapshift to rootwrap filters  https://review.openstack.org/18045109:12
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openstackgerritTimofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova: Fix availability zone check before live-migration  https://review.openstack.org/18043809:18
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openstackgerritEli Qiao proposed openstack/nova: BDM: Stop booting if a blank volume as vda  https://review.openstack.org/18045709:21
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openstackgerritEli Qiao proposed openstack/nova: API: remove admin require from compute_node_get_all_by_* from db layer  https://review.openstack.org/17533409:31
openstackgerritEli Qiao proposed openstack/nova: API: Add policy enforcement test cases for pci API  https://review.openstack.org/17574509:31
openstackgerritEli Qiao proposed openstack/nova: API: remove admin require for compute_node(get_all/search_by_hyperviso) from db  https://review.openstack.org/17574409:31
openstackgerritEli Qiao proposed openstack/nova: API: remove admin require for compute_node_create/update/delete from db layer  https://review.openstack.org/17569309:31
eliqiao1alex_xu: around?09:31
alex_xueliqiao1: hi here, just arrived home09:31
eliqiao1alex_xu: it's re-  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/145689/7/specs/liberty/approved/add-security-group-rules.rst09:32
alex_xueliqiao1: yup09:33
eliqiao1alex_xu: I'v defined the name of injected_file_path_length as MaxInjectedFilePathBytes in line 77, any good suggestion for the name?09:33
alex_xueliqiao1: maybe we should call it maxPersonalityPathBytes?09:33
eliqiao1the quota's explantion is "Length of injected file path"09:34
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alex_xueliqiao1: yes, but  injected_file_content_bytes return as maxPersonalitySize in the API09:34
alex_xueliqiao1: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/openstack/compute/views/limits.py#L3509:34
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eliqiao1alex_xu: sure, I notice that.09:35
openstackgerritdave-mcnally proposed openstack/nova: Create a reserved aggregate filter  https://review.openstack.org/17875009:37
openstackgerritHans Lindgren proposed openstack/nova: Cleanup conductor unused methods  https://review.openstack.org/16885609:38
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alex_xueliqiao1: sounds cool? I'm not good at namiing. but we definitly should consistent with other properties09:43
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eliqiao1alex_xu:  deal, will naming it consistent with others.09:46
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openstackgerritEli Qiao proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add more properties to limits and used_limits api  https://review.openstack.org/14568909:49
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openstackgerritDeepak C Shetty proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Nova part of volume snapshot improvements  https://review.openstack.org/17281309:53
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tdurakovbauzas: ping10:01
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tdurakovbauzas, noticed you are assignee for https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/121494310:03
openstackLaunchpad bug 1214943 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Live migration should use the same memory over subscription logic as instance boot" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Sylvain Bauza (sylvain-bauza)10:03
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openstackgerritjichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Return HTTPForbidden if over quota  https://review.openstack.org/18046910:10
fricklerdims, garyk, jichen: would like to see your opinion on https://review.openstack.org/179569 regarding the bug-fix vs. API-change question10:13
jichensdague: hi, according to https://github.com/openstack/api-wg/blob/master/guidelines/http.rst, should I change the https://review.openstack.org/#/c/173985/ back from 400 to 403?10:14
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openstackgerritgaryk proposed openstack/nova: VMware: add support for NFS 4.1  https://review.openstack.org/17984210:19
garykdims: nsx minesweeper is back up and running. there was a outage due to an internal networking issue. stable/kilo was barfing10:20
garykunder investigation10:20
dimsjichen: frickler: clearly a bug fix!!! imho10:20
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dimsgaryk: thanks for the update!10:20
jichendims: ok, seems his case is different to what I asked before10:22
jichendims: but Doc and API flag should be kept, right10:22
sdaguejichen: so I want to actually chat with jaypipes about that, as it comes from his original document10:23
dimsjichen: yes, those 2 are good10:23
jichendims: ok10:23
jichensdague: ok, got it10:24
sdaguedims: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/179569 is an API change10:25
sdaguethe fact that someone wrote some random code in nova client doesn't mean it was part of the nova API10:25
sdagueoh, why did this work for admin before?10:25
dimssdague: right, exactly10:26
sdaguethat's the bit I want to understand10:26
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dimssdague: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/nova/tree/nova/api/openstack/compute/plugins/v3/servers.py#n112710:32
sdagueah gotcha10:33
bauzastdurakov: sorry, was on call, now I'm about to be afk for lunch time :/10:33
bauzastdurakov: but we can very quickly discuss10:33
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sdagueso, this is a user interface change. The user has different allowed params before / after this change10:33
tdurakovI left comment for you in gerrit10:33
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tdurakovcheck it please10:34
sdaguedims: seems like version bump to me10:34
sdaguebut we seem to be having a lot of these debates of late, so I think we just need to hold and do this real time at summit10:34
tdurakovbauzas, what about bug above? do you work on it?10:34
tdurakovbauzas, ping me please when you become available10:35
bauzastdurakov: re: the AZ information, that's by design unfortunately :/10:35
bauzastdurakov: ie. there is no reason to add an AZ to an instance if the user didn't ask for it10:35
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dimssdague: just feel we have been micro versioning a lot since we have that capability :( (hammer / nail)10:35
tdurakovbauzas, where can I find design notes or something like that about az?10:35
bauzastdurakov: then, there is no reason to check the host AZ if the instance has no AZ too IMHO10:35
bauzastdurakov: for example, see the Instance model10:36
* dims whew we are out of the xattr/cffi hole10:36
tdurakovhttp://docs.openstack.org/openstack-ops/content/scaling.html#segragation_methods10:36
bauzastdurakov: the Instance object accepts an availability_zone field but nullable10:36
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bauzastdurakov: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/objects/instance.py#L19910:37
bauzastdurakov: also https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/scheduler/filters/availability_zone_filter.py#L44-L4510:37
tdurakovyep, it's nullable, but from table i provided above i understood that az should supply suchisolation10:38
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alex_xusdague: dims one more case for change search option https://review.openstack.org/#/c/171523/ ... hope we can got agreement on this guideline https://review.openstack.org/17777810:38
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tdurakovbauzas, i provide use case in gerrit comment, could you check it? Is my concern valid?10:39
bauzastdurakov: yup, segregation can be done using AZs agreed, but if the user doesn't use it, we don't need it10:39
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dimsalex_xu: same deal as the other one - works for admin and does not work for others?10:39
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bauzastdurakov: you mean "It will be a bit confusing for me if instance is migrated to different AZ during migration. Especially it could become a problem if instance migrates to host, located on the other side of the planet" ?10:40
tdurakovyes10:40
bauzastdurakov: as I said, if the user didn't specify an AZ, then that's not a problem for him IMHO10:41
tdurakovi've checked code10:41
tdurakovthere is default_schedule_zone in config10:41
bauzasyup, the default AZ10:41
alex_xudims: yes as I remember. the patch add on more option at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/171523/1/nova/api/openstack/compute/plugins/v3/servers.py10:41
tdurakovso nova manage az, if user doesn't provide one10:42
* alex_xu have to go, back after few hours10:42
tdurakovbut if conf is also none?10:42
tdurakov)10:42
bauzastdurakov: nope, that's "nova"10:42
bauzastdurakov: but I think I see what you need10:42
bauzastdurakov: you need at least something making sure that instance az is defaulted to the default schedule zone, unless explicitely changed by the user correct ?10:43
bauzastdurakov: none then being non-acceptable10:43
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sdaguedims: the *whole* point of microversions was that it gave us a reliable way to signal API changes10:44
bauzastdurakov: if so, I would recommend you to work on defaulting the instance.az info to the conf opt and not leave it set to None10:44
bauzastdurakov: but the scheduler doesn't have to do anything with calling the AZ api10:44
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sdagueinstead of the old way which is randomly changing stuff... assuming "meh, no one really cares about this one" and creating a compatibility mess in the ecosystem10:44
bauzastdurakov: I need to jump off, ping me in 1.5h if you want so10:44
tdurakovok10:45
sdagueand yes, that's going to give us a lot of microversions, and yes that's going to mean a bunch of compat code, but that's the cost of a versioned interface10:45
openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova-specs: Spec for Hyper-V generation 2 VMs  https://review.openstack.org/10394510:45
sdaguewe do it in db migrations, library releases, rpc version bumps... I'm not sure why it's all of a sudden a huge deal that we're going to do it with the API10:46
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dimssdague: of course its the core(s) call not mine. the distinction i made in my head was that the default should work right for both classes of users hence a bug and not a feature10:50
sdaguedims: except... it was explicitly decided not to be part of the interface in the past10:50
sdagueso the problem is if you just "change as bug fix"10:50
sdaguethen you get people saying "oh, this is the interface" and hard code the filter into their code10:51
sdaguethen try to get their stuff to work on hpcloud and rax at the same time10:51
sdagueand it gives wildly different results10:51
dimssdague: fair point, i wanted everyone to reap the benefits and not just some folks who know which specific microversion they need10:52
sdaguedims: but everyone doesn't reap the benefits10:52
sdaguethere are deployed clouds without this code10:52
sdagueand there is *no* way for a user to know if this is going to work with the cloud they just signed up with10:53
sdaguewhich means the feature just became something they *can't* use in their code, because there is no ability to depend on it10:54
dimssdague: if they wanted all servers, they would not be passing in ipv6 parameter...10:54
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sdagueso now they have to write their own massive compat layer10:54
sdaguedims: that's not the case I'm talking about10:54
sdagueuser reads the docs, I can filter by ipv6 param10:54
sdaguegreat10:54
dimssorry that was the one frickler pointed to10:54
sdagueok, hard code application to use that10:54
sdagueand I know that because ipv6 addresses are uniq, I can just grab the first server from the list10:55
sdaguenow I run this against multiple clouds10:55
sdaguesome that have this code10:55
sdagueand some that don't10:55
sdagueand with the ones that don't... you know what that code returns?10:55
sdague*not* the server I was looking for10:56
sdagueso it's actually 100% wrong10:56
sdagueand now I realize I can never depend on this feature because I have 0 idea if it's ever going to work10:56
sdagueso I have to rewrite it as client side code instead10:56
dimsright, so they traverse the response and do a match10:57
dimswhich will still work with this change10:57
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sdaguebut what you've just told me is we're going to tell people that "this filter is known to not work, you also have to client side filter"10:57
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sdaguethe whole point of the filter is to *only* return results that match10:58
sdagueit's like if 'ls *.doc' returns all documents10:58
sdagueoh, you actually want just .doc, 'ls *.doc | grep .doc'10:58
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dimssdague: when would we roll up microversions into default behavior?11:00
dimsdo we ever?11:00
sdaguethe spec allows for bringing up the minimum11:01
sdaguebut the fact is, there are tons of applications out there11:01
sdagueand hopefully lots more in the future11:01
sdagueand the price of an application ecosystem is once you let an API into the wild, you can't change it11:02
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sdaguewhich is why EC2 still supports requests in the original format for when the service went live 9 years ago11:04
dimssdague: "you let an API into the wild, you can't change it, even when it is wrong" :(11:04
sdaguedims: people come to depend on that behavior11:04
dimssdague: right11:04
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sdaguenow we have a mechanism for improving it for the future11:05
sdaguewhile not breaking people in the present11:05
sdaguewhich was the whole point11:05
sdaguethen they get to migrate their code on their timeframe11:05
sdague"oh... this end point is going to return differently, cool, I can adapt to that, and make my code be explicit about it"11:05
claudiubjohnthetubaguy: Hello. Could you take a look at: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/103945/11:05
johnthetubaguyclaudiub: its on my list, we are a few days behind right now with specs I am afraid11:07
dimssdague: ack. thanks for walking me through it. let me check if we currently let someone can enumerate microversions rather than just fail if that's not present.11:08
sdaguedims: I also think that we probably need more of this kind of "why" baked into the api-wg for stuff like this, because I think walking through the rationale is very helpful. Otherwise anyone that wants to write a multi openstack cloud app needs to write their own compat layer (aka shade)11:09
openstackgerritjichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Return HTTPForbidden if over quota  https://review.openstack.org/18046911:10
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claudiubjohnthetubaguy: I see. Just so you know, it is the hyper-v gen 2 vms spec, which was discussed on the ML. Hopefully it solves the issue and answers the questions that were asked.11:13
johnthetubaguyclaudiub: yeah, I removed my -2 so other folks might jump on and help review it11:14
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dimssdague: very true11:15
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sdagueI think there is a lot of missing why on most of the content out of api-wg right now actually, like the http.rst is just a bunch of edicts11:19
dims"thou shall" :)11:20
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johnthetubaguysdague: I got the impression they were considered "obvious", not sure they all are, and I guess we should give that feedback, quota one comes to mind11:21
johnthetubaguyjaypipes: did the api-wg discuss adding more "why" behind some of those rules? to help win us all around11:22
sdaguejohnthetubaguy: so... if you look at an ietf RFC things are explained with rationale a lot11:23
sdaguethe moment you assume anything is obvious in a document, I think you failed :)11:23
johnthetubaguysdague: yeah, thats a good example11:23
johnthetubaguyheh, true11:23
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: Use oslo-config-generator instead of generate_sample.sh  https://review.openstack.org/18001312:06
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tdurakovbauzas: ping:)12:22
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bauzastdurakov: you're not lucky, in another call...12:47
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tdurakovcould you ping me when it finish12:48
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dimstdurakov: ha, you already pinged bauzas :)12:49
tdurakovdims, yep there is problem with syncing(12:51
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bauzastdurakov: sooooo, I'm back12:52
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* alex_xu learn a lot for talk between sdague and dims12:54
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tdurakovbauzas, I've checked on devstack, nova always provide AZ12:58
tdurakoveven if user doesn't specify one12:58
bauzastdurakov: you mean persisted ?12:59
tdurakovyep,12:59
bauzastdurakov: if so, then we're fine no ?12:59
tdurakovno)12:59
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bauzastdurakov: just to be clear, here is where it's defaulted https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/api.py#L587-L58813:00
bauzastdurakov: tbh, I don't understand the problem13:01
bauzastdurakov: instances are having a default AZ value13:01
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bauzastdurakov: AZFilter is making sure that it's enforced13:01
tdurakovinstances doesn't have this in instances table. AZFilter check az only on instance13:02
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bauzastdurakov: so that's not persisted13:02
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tdurakovgive me a minute)13:02
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bauzastdurakov: if instances are having a defaulted AZ info, but not in the DB, then it means that instance.save() is not persisting it13:03
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bauzastdurakov: I honestly can check, but it won't be now13:03
tdurakovwhat do you think, if instance is located in  az 'A' could we migrate it to another one, called 'b'?13:03
bauzastdurakov: if the 'A' AZ is the default one, yes we don't care13:04
tdurakovwhy?)13:04
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jaypipesjohnthetubaguy: we'd certainly welcome any improvement and rationalization you would want to add to the guidelines. please do feel free to either submit a patch or describe to me and I can do that.13:05
bauzastdurakov: AZs are just a scheduler thing, right ?13:05
bauzastdurakov: Nova doesn't really care about its value, but the sheduler does13:05
tdurakovonly?13:05
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tdurakovonly scheduler?13:06
bauzastdurakov: just because there is *one* filter called AZFilter13:06
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tdurakovok, what the problem to persist in instances table default az, if no on were provided?13:07
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tdurakovI can't find any docs, where it's said that dafault az should be proccessed in some special way13:09
tdurakovbauzas, why we are making such exception for it?13:09
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openstackgerritSylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova-specs: Proposes to check destination on migrations  https://review.openstack.org/17922413:11
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tdurakovbtw, there is no default_schedule_zone specified in devstack setup, but az is)13:12
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bauzastdurakov: ok, I think I see the problem13:17
bauzastdurakov: if you genconfig nova.conf, you'll see the discrepancy13:17
bauzastdurakov: http://paste.openstack.org/show/215454/13:18
bauzastdurakov: so, my bad, I thought default_schedule_zone was set to implicitely refer to default_availability_zone13:19
bauzastdurakov: but it's not13:19
bauzastdurakov: that said, I don't think it's a bug13:19
bauzastdurakov: but that's up to the operator to say if users will have default AZs or not13:19
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bauzastdurakov: if you consider your deployment as critical wrt AZs, please set the value identical to default_availability_zone13:20
tdurakovok, so what hould i do with filled bug?13:20
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openstackgerritgaryk proposed openstack/nova: Compute: remove reverts_task_state from interface attach/detach  https://review.openstack.org/18053713:25
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johnthetubaguyjaypipes: thanks, I think the one that came up before is a justification for the error code for over quota13:25
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jaypipesjohnthetubaguy: sorry, not following you...13:26
johnthetubaguyjaypipes: it says using 403 rather than 412 or something like that13:27
bauzastdurakov: not sure it's a bug, since it's a conf flag13:27
johnthetubaguyjaypipes: but it doesn't say *why* thats a good idea13:27
jaypipesjohnthetubaguy: isn't there a debate happening on the ML about that particular one right now? :)13:27
bauzastdurakov: I will mark the bug as invalid, as you only have to modify nova.conf to change the value to match your needs13:27
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bauzastdurakov: and setting the default_schedule_zone to something else than None doesn't sound good to me, just because it modifies the behaviour13:28
bauzastdurakov: (I mean in the default nova.conf)13:28
sdaguejaypipes: yes, the ML thread kicked off from that one13:29
johnthetubaguyjaypipes: yeah, I guess its worth capturing the why, in general, that was the main feedback, I guess the output of the debate on the ML would probably generate the docs this time13:29
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sdaguejohnthetubaguy: right ++13:29
jaypipesjohnthetubaguy: yeah, agreed.13:29
jaypipesfiddleshits, I need to go to my dentist appointment.. :( biab.13:29
johnthetubaguyjaypipes: its probably at least party the fault of reviewers not having that debate on the review13:30
johnthetubaguyjaypipes:  ouch, good luck!13:30
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openstackgerritdave-mcnally proposed openstack/nova: Create a reserved aggregate filter  https://review.openstack.org/17875013:31
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sahidsdague: thanks for your reviews13:45
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openstackgerritSylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Remove memory validation for live migration  https://review.openstack.org/18015113:45
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sdaguesahid: thanks for them being very crisp :)13:50
openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: servicegroup: remove get_all method never used as public  https://review.openstack.org/16887613:50
sahidsdague: :)13:51
sahidjaypipes: i wondering to know if i can have your feeling about this review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/168876/ (nothing hurry but if you can add it in your queue)13:52
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openstackgerritrajiv proposed openstack/python-novaclient: nova client now support limits subcommand  https://review.openstack.org/16670313:57
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ankit_agHi all, Can someone please help reviewing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/145738/14:13
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openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Move our ObjectListBase to subclass from the Oslo one  https://review.openstack.org/17399514:17
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Start the conversion to oslo.versionedobjects  https://review.openstack.org/17347914:17
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dansmithankit_ag: I think alaski would be a good person to look at that, I just added him to the review14:18
ankit_agdansmith: Thanks for quick reply :)14:19
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alaskiI will look at it in a bit14:20
ankit_agalaski: Ok14:21
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openstackgerritgaryk proposed openstack/nova: DB: add support for volume_type by BDMS  https://review.openstack.org/13999214:22
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openstackgerritgaryk proposed openstack/nova: Object: add volume_type_id to block_device objects  https://review.openstack.org/13999414:27
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openstackgerritAndrew Laski proposed openstack/nova-specs: Proposal for cells v2 scheduling interaction  https://review.openstack.org/14148614:32
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dansmithalaski: left you comments on the scheduling one14:49
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alaskidansmith: thanks.  you did get the correct meaning from it, but it seems I could be more clear.14:52
alaskiI've been thinking about conductor for a bit, and was hesitant to complicate things.  but the point about adding state is a good reason to go that route14:53
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dansmithwe could also make the apis do a clean shutdown and mark the instances as failed14:53
dansmithI'm not really sure how big of a deal that would or wouldn't be for people right now14:54
bauzasalaski: dansmith: saw the change, will try to review it by today before the meeting :/14:54
dansmithif you think that's a reasonable first stab, then we should do that and push the complication to later14:54
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alaskifor us we do categorize an api restart differently than a compute/conductor restart, and this would change that14:56
jaypipessahid: you know that patch needs a rebase, yes?14:56
dansmithalaski: yeah, that's what I was suspecting14:57
sahidjaypipes: yes sure, sure i want you feeling first about to remove that method14:57
sahidor if i have to abandonn it14:57
jaypipesk14:58
alaskidansmith: I'll add something about doing this in conductor14:58
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dansmithalaski: so, my drop-compute-v3 patch is failing on cells, and the first one I'm looking at is around get_console_output()15:06
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dansmithalaski: but I don't think anything I changed would cause a dict to be sent to the compute now if it goes through cells15:06
dansmithbut that seems to be the failure15:06
dansmithI forget where to look for which methods pass full instance objects15:07
alaskicells/messaging.py I believe15:07
bauzasalaski: +115:07
alaskidansmith: whereever this is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/79741/15:07
dansmithokay, get_console_output isn't in there15:07
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dansmithah15:08
dansmiththat list15:08
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dansmithand yeah, I removed object_compat from that15:09
dansmithoh my15:10
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alaskiI don't know what the tests will hit, but there are quite a few things that benefit from that patch15:10
alaskiwe kept adding methods to the list internally and now we're running what's up for review15:11
dansmithoh, that removes the list15:12
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dansmithholy crap, let's do that15:13
dansmithjohnthetubaguy: wanna send that one? I just +2d15:13
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alaskiyeah, since everything works with objects we don't need to filter what we pass15:13
dansmithyeah, and because I just removed object_compat from a ton of things :)15:13
dansmithscary that we were still using all dicts for those on cells15:13
alaskiyeah15:14
dansmiththat's an old patch15:14
dansmith79k review number15:14
dansmitha year15:14
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alaskiheh, it was a PoC originally, but there wasn't a good way to see if it broke anything15:15
alaskialso, I don't like to advertise my patches15:15
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Refactor tests that use compute's deprecated run_instance() method  https://review.openstack.org/17995015:15
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Drop compute RPC 3.x support  https://review.openstack.org/17995115:15
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Cells: Call compute api methods with instance objects  https://review.openstack.org/7974115:15
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Add SpawnFixture  https://review.openstack.org/17994915:15
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Switch to _set_instance_obj_error_state in build_and_run_instance  https://review.openstack.org/18029115:15
dansmithjust rebased that and my stuff on top15:15
alaskicool15:16
openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: compute: make test rpcapi more flexible  https://review.openstack.org/16417715:16
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bauzasdansmith: while I'm coding on requestspec, I'm just thinking on alaski's spec for the scheduling stuff15:20
bauzasdansmith: something is just braindumping15:20
bauzasdansmith: why can't we consider that conductors can't be run globally and not exactly specified as child or master ones ?15:21
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dansmithbauzas: because they sit on a message bus15:22
dansmithand the original design was to pair up the cell with a db+mq15:22
dansmithmaking them able to sit on multiple busses is complicated I think15:22
bauzasdansmith: warning, dumb question, is that really a problem ?15:22
bauzasoh15:22
bauzasI see15:22
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bauzasso we have 2 RPC layers, we need 2 conductor layers...15:24
bauzasmmm...15:24
dansmithwe might, not necessarily15:24
alaskianother thought I had was that we could build this out with a global conductor, which means a limit of 1 cell for now.  and then move towards splitting conductor, or persisting tasks, or... later15:24
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dansmithI dunno15:25
dansmithjust having a conductor method or class that handles these for the api and running a few conductors for the api service doesn't seem bad to me15:26
dansmithI guess it's "two levels of conductors", but really it's just offloading the long-running things from api to another thing, which is the whole point of conductor15:26
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openstackgerritShaoHe Feng proposed openstack/nova: Remove db layer hard-code permission checks for floating_ip_dns  https://review.openstack.org/15071015:26
bauzasdansmith: agreed, that was also why I said exactly the same thing in the spec15:27
alaskiI agree that it's not that bad.  it does suggest to me that we might want to split the db proxy in conductor from the long running task part15:27
bauzasdansmith: just considering an indirection api in the conductor if feasible or not15:27
alaskiat least eventually15:27
dansmithalaski: what does that accomplish?15:27
dansmithalaski: another service *is* more complexity for packagers and deployers15:28
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dansmithalaski: maybe a conf flag to limit what a given conductor's scope can be for security might be reasonable15:28
alaskidansmith: primarily it accomplishes clarity.  and there has been a desire to scale conductor that orchestrate vs those that proxy dbs, though a flag might accomplish that15:31
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bauzasalaski: so like objects do with their indirection api right ?15:32
dansmithalaski: yeah, I get the clarity thing15:32
dansmithbauzas: not really15:32
dansmithbauzas: just a flag to disable the task api for a conductor that is just a proxy, or disable the proxy api for a conductor that is just a task agent15:32
bauzasoh that15:32
dansmithalaski: at the end of the day, I don't think you end up with anything fundamentally different if you split conductor15:33
alaskiyeah, something that just says don't listen for certain messages15:33
alaskidansmith: yeah, agreed15:33
johnthetubaguydansmith: looking at that cells patch now, will +2 it15:36
dansmithjohnthetubaguy: thanks15:36
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openstackgerritEric Harney proposed openstack/nova: Add error message to failed block device transform  https://review.openstack.org/18058415:37
openstackgerritEric Harney proposed openstack/nova: Fix order of parameters for swap_volume (V4Proxy)  https://review.openstack.org/18058515:38
dansmithis the gate still unhappy? the failure graphs look sad15:38
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sdaguedansmith: no it should be fine15:52
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dansmithokay15:53
sdaguewhat looks sad about them?15:53
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dansmithI've seen a bunch of patches fail for seemingly unrelated reasons, and then spikes here: http://jogo.github.io/gate/15:54
sdaguewell the big fail spike from yesterday was the cffi beta + wheels hitting an interesting edge case15:55
dansmith"bunch" being a mostly meaningless term of course15:55
dansmithright15:55
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sdaguewe also hit apt mirror blip again this morning - but for a small window - http://status.openstack.org//elastic-recheck/#140090515:57
dansmithokay, several I saw a bit ago seemed to be setup fails15:57
dansmithso maybe15:57
sdaguedansmith: you have pointers?15:58
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dansmiththe two I was just digging up were neutron ssh fails15:58
dansmithI can try to find an earlier one15:59
dansmithseveral others of mine just completed successfully15:59
dansmithso maybe I'm just imagining it16:00
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/18060116:08
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openstackgerritAndrew Laski proposed openstack/nova-specs: Proposal for cells v2 scheduling interaction  https://review.openstack.org/14148616:13
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cfriesen_awaysdague: jogo: you've both +2'd  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/169827/11 previously....any changes that need to be made still?16:38
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sdaguecfriesen: +216:39
jogocfriesen: done16:40
cfriesensdague: jogo: thanks guys16:40
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mriedemdansmith: nice https://review.openstack.org/#/c/179697/17:04
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dansmithheh17:04
cfriesendansmith: not sure about the commit message on that one17:05
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dansmithcfriesen: eh?17:06
cfriesenmriedem: I see you feel the same.17:06
cfriesen:)17:06
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mriedemcfriesen: the -2 wasn't for the commit message17:07
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openstackgerritAndre Aranha proposed openstack/nova: Passing down the instance display_name to ironic driver  https://review.openstack.org/18062817:08
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* cfriesen should read all the comments first before saying something17:10
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openstackgerritJohn L. Villalovos proposed openstack/nova: Correct docstring info on two parameters  https://review.openstack.org/18063217:22
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openstackgerritNikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova: compute utils: Remove a useless context parameter  https://review.openstack.org/18063317:23
openstackgerritNikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova: virt: make sure convert_all_volumes catches blank volumes too  https://review.openstack.org/18063417:23
openstackgerritNikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova: virt: Move building the block_device_info dict into a method  https://review.openstack.org/18063517:23
openstackgerritNikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: make default_device_names DRY-er  https://review.openstack.org/18063617:23
openstackgerritNikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova: virt: add get_device_name_for_instance to the base driver class  https://review.openstack.org/18063717:23
openstackgerritNikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: implement get_device_name_for_instance  https://review.openstack.org/18063817:23
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_gryfdansmith, hi18:29
dansmith_gryf: hellp18:29
dansmither, hello even18:29
openstackgerritAndre Aranha proposed openstack/nova: Passing down the instance display_name to ironic driver  https://review.openstack.org/18062818:29
_gryfdansmith, :)18:29
_gryfdansmith, can you please take a look at my comment from tday on review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/169836 ?18:30
_gryfdansmith, I mean that one regarding the form of the rest call and the body of it18:31
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dansmith_gryf: I saw it.. I get email notifications of all these things.. I haven't gotten to it yet because I have like a thousand things on the queue right now18:34
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_gryfdansmith, I understand that, I'd like to make sure, we don't introduce any confusion to the user with very different shape of the api call18:36
_gryfdansmith, just take your time on this :)18:36
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_gryfdansmith, it is not a race, after all, isn't it? :D18:37
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Add rootwrap daemon mode support  https://review.openstack.org/18069519:35
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Drop use of 'oslo' namespace package  https://review.openstack.org/18070119:43
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openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Refactor tests that use compute's deprecated run_instance() method  https://review.openstack.org/17995019:43
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Drop compute RPC 3.x support  https://review.openstack.org/17995119:43
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Cells: Call compute api methods with instance objects  https://review.openstack.org/7974119:43
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Add SpawnFixture  https://review.openstack.org/17994919:43
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Switch to _set_instance_obj_error_state in build_and_run_instance  https://review.openstack.org/18029119:43
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openstackgerritVilobh Meshram proposed openstack/nova-specs: Replace service groups with the tooz groups  https://review.openstack.org/13860719:50
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openstackgerritJoe Gordon proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add JSON-Home support for API path discovery  https://review.openstack.org/13071520:28
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mriedembauzas: https://github.com/openstack/horizon/blob/master/horizon/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/djangojs.po#L13220:33
bauzasmriedem: LOL20:34
bauzasmriedem: is that a joke ?20:35
bauzasmriedem: you know what "Sucées" means ?20:35
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bauzashope you like candies20:35
openstackgerritJoe Gordon proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add robustify-evacuate spec  https://review.openstack.org/16144420:36
mriedemsucked20:36
jrolllol20:36
openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Add rootwrap daemon mode support  https://review.openstack.org/18069520:37
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mriedembauzas: our horizon guy pointed it out20:37
mriedemi saw fr and thought you would like to see it20:37
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bauzasmriedem: so sounds like our success sucks20:38
bauzasmriedem: thanks for that, I was looking at a patch to provide for getting an ATC status :D20:39
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bauzasat least, I'll give it to my wife since she wants to go to Tokyo too20:39
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moshelejogo: hi20:41
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jogomoshele: o/20:43
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moshelejogo: I am from Mellanox and our CI account is currently  disable20:45
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moshelejogo: we disabled all our jenkins jobs can you enable the account so we can debug the issue20:45
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jogomoshele: I think someone from infra needs to do that, lets go to #openstack-infra20:47
moshelejogo: I am very sorry of this issue, I am not sure what happen20:48
moshelejogo: ok20:48
jogomoshele: running a CI system is hard  and really requires monitoring20:48
dansmithmoshele: yeah, please don't turn it back on until you have someone to watch it very closely for 48 hours or so20:49
mosheledansmith: I will20:50
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openstackgerritQiu Yu proposed openstack/nova: Force iSCSI disconnect after timeout  https://review.openstack.org/16781521:27
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openstackgerritJoe Gordon proposed openstack/nova: Fix the race condition between detaching volume and creating image  https://review.openstack.org/16615221:35
openstackgerritSylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: objects: define the ImageMeta & ImageMetaProps objects  https://review.openstack.org/7623421:35
openstackgerritSylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Create RequestSpec object  https://review.openstack.org/14552821:35
bauzas^ is the reason why working at 11pm is not a good idea...21:37
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bauzasdansmith: I would love some early bird comments if you're happy with for https://review.openstack.org/14552821:38
bauzasdansmith: in particular, I wonder if providing 2 objects in the same module is a good idea21:38
bauzasdansmith: but as the classes are related, I thought it was better to only have one module21:39
dansmithI will look when I can21:39
bauzasdansmith: no worries, just a FYI, I know you're busy21:39
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anteayajogo: so I had been waiting for you to let me know when it can be re-enabled22:07
anteayajogo: but since it is enabled again, please stay in contact with moshele since (s)he seems to be the one able to make contact with you22:07
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jogoanteaya: will do. I wasn't sure how to ask to get them re-enabled so went to -infra in general22:11
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anteayayup that works22:13
anteayaand I never told you I was waiting for you so how would you know22:13
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anteayabut better now if you are point person for them and infra deals with you22:14
anteayaand thanks22:14
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jogothank you!22:20
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melwittlooks like https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1252947 is back, should I reopen it or open a new one?22:42
openstackLaunchpad bug 1252947 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "libvirtError: Cannot recv data: Connection reset by peer" [Undecided,Fix released]22:42
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melwittI think I should probably open a new one22:43
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mriedemmelwitt: what was the fix?23:03
mriedemthere wasn't one23:03
mriedemit shouldn't have been fix committed23:03
mriedemjust re-open it23:03
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mriedemthere are other gate bugs for libvirt have socket connections dropped randomly23:05
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melwittmriedem: yeah. I wasn't sure whether to lump this together with those or not. I'll mark one as a dup since I opened a new one23:05
melwittjust wanted to get e-r aware of it23:06
mriedemi changed https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1252947 to confirmed23:06
openstackLaunchpad bug 1252947 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "libvirtError: Cannot recv data: Connection reset by peer" [Undecided,Confirmed]23:06
mriedemdupe against that since it's the original23:06
mriedemand write the e-r query against that one ^23:06
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melwittmriedem: will do, thanks23:07
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the_huggerWhy are all of the calls to copy images in nova.virt.libvirt.imagebackend.py synchronized around the base image?  For examle copy_qcow2_image is synchronized on the base image name, but all that does is essentially call libvirt.utils.create_cow_image, specifying the base image as the backing file.  Can there not be two things doing that at once?23:25
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Add rootwrap daemon mode support  https://review.openstack.org/18069523:43
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