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| RuiChen | melwitt: I think the test cases can test the different request_ids, please see my comments | 03:09 |
| RuiChen | melwitt: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/167926/ | 03:09 |
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| eliqiao1 | alex_xu: ping | 06:34 |
| alex_xu | eliqiao1: pong | 06:34 |
| eliqiao1 | alex_xu: re - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/145689/ can you help to check my replied comments when you are free? hope that makes sense to you. | 06:35 |
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| alex_xu | eliqiao1: ok, will check it asap, thanks for the replied | 06:36 |
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| sahid | ndipanov: can i have you review here it's about a thing in console https://review.openstack.org/#/c/179014/ | 09:18 |
| sahid | please :) | 09:18 |
| sahid | actually i removed some checks in the conditon so wondering to know if that makes sens for you too | 09:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Adelina Tuvenie proposed openstack/nova: Adds Hyper-V vNic hot-plug implementation https://review.openstack.org/138255 | 09:24 |
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| ndipanov | sahid, will look in a bit | 09:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eli Qiao proposed openstack/nova-specs: Validate the service state before deleting it https://review.openstack.org/163274 | 09:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Adelina Tuvenie proposed openstack/nova: Adds Hyper-V OVS ViF driver https://review.openstack.org/140045 | 09:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Adelina Tuvenie proposed openstack/nova: Adds Hyper-V vNic hot-plug implementation https://review.openstack.org/138255 | 09:52 |
| mikal | Wow, there are a lot of bugs filed against the ironic driver | 09:55 |
| bauzas | mikal: AFAICS, some of them are related to how the scheduler is accounting their typical resources IMHO | 09:57 |
| bauzas | mikal: just because it's a plain different story | 09:57 |
| mikal | bauzas: true, but there are a lot of others too | 09:58 |
| bauzas | mikal: I count 23 | 09:58 |
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| bauzas | mikal: as of those 23, I can see at least 5 related to the scheduler story | 09:59 |
| mikal | bauzas: oh, I don't deny scheduler for ironic is a thing | 09:59 |
| mikal | bauzas: its just there are other things too | 09:59 |
| bauzas | mikal: yeah agreed | 10:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Gilliard proposed openstack/nova-specs: Cancel an ongoing live migration https://review.openstack.org/179149 | 10:00 |
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| bauzas | mikal: that still leaves more than 15 bugs for the driver | 10:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Victor Stinner proposed openstack/nova: Replace suds test dependency with suds-jurko https://review.openstack.org/180090 | 10:14 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: I don't remember the URL for the trivial bugs | 10:15 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: do you have it ? | 10:15 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: I also don't remember if you explained it in the ML ? | 10:16 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: I would like to do so if not | 10:16 |
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| mikal | bauzas: its not in the kilo mid-cycle etherpad any more I assume | 10:20 |
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| bauzas | mikal: yup, but IIRC johnthetubaguy created it during the last nova meeting | 10:21 |
| bauzas | anyway, looking at eavesdrop now | 10:21 |
| mikal | bauzas: I'd appreciate an email announcement as it will stop me from having to spelunk | 10:21 |
| bauzas | bingo https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-nova-priorities-tracking | 10:22 |
| bauzas | mikal: sure, just checked, nothing announced, will do | 10:22 |
| bauzas | eh, lxsli is in fire... | 10:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | dave-mcnally proposed openstack/nova: Add policy to cover snapshotting of volume backed instances https://review.openstack.org/176805 | 10:24 |
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| bauzas | lxsli: you just filled in all the slots for the trivial bugs :) | 10:27 |
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| bauzas | lxsli: so now I have to -1 some for making sure I can add some I found also :p | 10:28 |
| lxsli | morning bauzas :) | 10:28 |
| lxsli | needed something to do on Friday! | 10:28 |
| bauzas | lxsli: yeah, I can give you some slides to work on if you want :p | 10:28 |
| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: console: clean tokens do not happen for all kind of consoles https://review.openstack.org/179014 | 10:29 |
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| lxsli | very kind of you | 10:29 |
| lxsli | my colleague is back though so I'm ok for now ;) | 10:30 |
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| bauzas | lxsli: :) | 10:31 |
| bauzas | lxsli: eh, you'll be in the audience | 10:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/nova: Fix import order https://review.openstack.org/180097 | 10:35 |
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| dims_ | bauzas: yay, new czar for trivial list! :) | 10:36 |
| bauzas | dims_: ssssssht | 10:36 |
| bauzas | dims_: I was just seeing a miss and fixing it :) | 10:37 |
| dims_ | :) | 10:37 |
| bauzas | dims_: and we had the French revolution war, so czars are not in safe place here y'know | 10:38 |
| dims_ | haha | 10:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: use common code for supported architecture https://review.openstack.org/180101 | 10:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: use common code for supported architecture https://review.openstack.org/180101 | 10:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Radoslav Gerganov proposed openstack/nova: VMware: verify vCenter server certificate https://review.openstack.org/179728 | 10:57 |
| swamireddy | hi | 10:58 |
| swamireddy | Is ´volume forec detach´ supported? | 10:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Petrut Lucian proposed openstack/nova: Hyper-V: ensure only one log writer is spawned per VM https://review.openstack.org/180111 | 11:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Petrut Lucian proposed openstack/nova: Hyper-V: restart serial console workers after instance power change https://review.openstack.org/163080 | 11:42 |
| BobBall | Is there a way to get nova client to track all API requests that match a certain filter? Apparently I'm using a huge number of calls to /servers - more than the number of servers I create should imply... and I'm trying to understand why :) | 11:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Petrut Lucian proposed openstack/nova: Hyper-V: restart serial console workers after instance power change https://review.openstack.org/163080 | 12:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: console: clean tokens do not happen for all kind of consoles https://review.openstack.org/179014 | 12:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: console: clean tokens do not happen for all kind of consoles https://review.openstack.org/179014 | 12:16 |
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| haypo | dims_, hi. dhellmann just reminded me that it was your plan to replace suds with suds-jurko, so you may take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/180087/ (oslo.vmware) & https://review.openstack.org/#/c/180090/ (nova) | 12:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Sudipta Biswas proposed openstack/nova-specs: Cleanup 'scheduled_at' from instances table https://review.openstack.org/180120 | 12:22 |
| dims_ | haypo: yep | 12:22 |
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| haypo | dims_, suds really look to be dead, last release in 2010 :-( | 12:24 |
| dims_ | haypo: yep | 12:26 |
| haypo | dims_, he sent an email to jurko and he replied, but i'm now unable to find his reply!? he wrote that he may work again on this project for a customer, or something like that | 12:27 |
| dims_ | haypo: very cool | 12:27 |
| dims_ | haypo: did you see a couple of notes from my experiment? | 12:27 |
| haypo | dims_, nope | 12:27 |
| dims_ | one sec | 12:27 |
| haypo | dims_, oh, do you mean the python3 WIP patch? | 12:27 |
| dims_ | y | 12:28 |
| dims_ | 1. I'd like to see a patch series so others can contribute | 12:28 |
| dims_ | 2. I'd like to see us get quickly (shortest length of patch series) that will get us to the white list of unit tests and the check job. | 12:28 |
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| dims_ | i found that nova cores like patch series | 12:29 |
| dims_ | and quicker we get to a white list we can prove that what are are changing still continues to work and future checkins don't break them | 12:29 |
| dims_ | haypo: ^^ | 12:30 |
| haypo | dims_, i submited my patches as independent patches, it's convinient to not have to push a a patch serie just to update one patch | 12:30 |
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| haypo | dims_, i merged them all in a local branch, i only got one simple conflict | 12:30 |
| haypo | dims_, i agree for the whitelist, it's part of the plan of my spec ;) | 12:30 |
| dims_ | cool, sounds good | 12:31 |
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| haypo | dims_, i reviewed manually my patches on gerrit, but it's boring, it's always the same change done in N files (usually N > 20), except of specific changes mentionned in the commit message as "manual changes" | 12:31 |
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| haypo | dims_, matt dietz understood the purpose of generated change, he just voted +2 for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/179784/ "Replace dict.iteritems() with six.iteritems(dict)" ;-) | 12:32 |
| dims_ | yay! | 12:32 |
| openstackgerrit | dave-mcnally proposed openstack/nova: Add policy to cover snapshotting of volume backed instances https://review.openstack.org/176805 | 12:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | shihanzhang proposed openstack/nova: Optimize validate_networks https://review.openstack.org/175742 | 12:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: Remove orphaned tables - iscsi_targets, volumes https://review.openstack.org/166214 | 12:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: Remove orphaned tables - iscsi_targets, volumes https://review.openstack.org/166214 | 12:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Victor Stinner proposed openstack/nova: Replace MySQL-python test req. with mysqlclient https://review.openstack.org/180128 | 12:48 |
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| dims | garyk: something wrong with the VMware NSX CI? | 12:52 |
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| garyk | dims: yeah, we have a few hiccups at the moment | 12:53 |
| dims | garyk: ack, thanks | 12:53 |
| garyk | dims: will hopefully up and running in a few hours | 12:53 |
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| dims | thanks garyk | 12:56 |
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| bauzas | sdague: quick question about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/166214/ if we want to add info for release notes, wouldn't it be another tag than DocImpact ? | 12:57 |
| bauzas | sdague: just trying to remember which one, but that will come | 12:58 |
| bauzas | sdague: bingo, UpgradeImpact | 12:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack/nova: remove redundant migration tests https://review.openstack.org/180134 | 12:59 |
| sdague | bauzas: maybe, it's not really an upgrade impact | 12:59 |
| sdague | there should just be a footnote that it was remove | 12:59 |
| sdague | removed | 12:59 |
| bauzas | sdague: but DocImpact is for creating a related bugfile for the docs people right? | 12:59 |
| bauzas | sdague: I said that because I left +1 for that change, and I need to understand your disagreement :) | 13:00 |
| bauzas | sdague: okay I see | 13:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | dave-mcnally proposed openstack/nova: Create a reserved aggregate filter https://review.openstack.org/178750 | 13:01 |
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| garyk | sdague: can you please look at https://review.openstack.org/180097 - we missed this yesterday | 13:14 |
| garyk | is danpb on irc? or mia? | 13:15 |
| sdague | danpb has not been on irc since ... jan? | 13:15 |
| garyk | ok, thanks | 13:16 |
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| kashyap | garyk: As near as I know, he was mia last month. But lately I see that (from mailing lists) that he's working on QEMU for TLS which he noted in some of the Nova reviews - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/171098/1/nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py -- "Separately I'm spending the next few months working on QEMU itself to add native support for encryption in migration & NBD which will solve this problem onc | 13:20 |
| kashyap | e & for all without the need to tunnel anything." (13APR) | 13:20 |
| garyk | kashyap: ok, thanks. | 13:21 |
| kashyap | garyk: Also, he's reviewed a few cleanups I've posted which you've reviewed too and a quite a few of others, so says Gerrit :-) | 13:22 |
| kashyap | Np. | 13:22 |
| garyk | :) | 13:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris St. Pierre proposed openstack/nova: Allow blacklisting os-api extensions https://review.openstack.org/160986 | 13:22 |
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| garyk | i am trying to be for some reviews for patches which he has +2'ed in the past and they have been rebased for the nth time … oh well. | 13:22 |
| sdague | garyk: can you just respin - 175248 with the instance param added | 13:25 |
| garyk | sdague: sure | 13:27 |
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| garyk | is there another rackspace outage - the gate is a mare | 13:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/nova: Cleaning up debug messages from previous change in vmops.py https://review.openstack.org/175248 | 13:34 |
| garyk | sdague: ^ | 13:34 |
| sdague | no, there is a race in the gearman server, which has gummed up things | 13:34 |
| garyk | no idea what gearman is | 13:35 |
| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/nova: VMware: add support for NFS 4.1 https://review.openstack.org/179842 | 13:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Remove memory validation for live migration https://review.openstack.org/180151 | 13:38 |
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| sahid | garyk: I replied to you here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/177222/ but perhaps you did not noticed that. | 13:47 |
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| garyk | sahid: looking | 13:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | ChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/nova: Filter out unactive compute firstly https://review.openstack.org/180155 | 13:50 |
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| garyk | sahid: ok. understood. its a little fubar, but ok | 13:53 |
| sahid | :) | 13:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: objects: remove field ListOfEnumField https://review.openstack.org/171287 | 14:01 |
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| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: hey, sorry I was out this morning and yesterday, I guess you found it OK? | 14:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: the link that is | 14:02 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: yup, just sent an email | 14:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: yeah, I read that, thanks | 14:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jorge Niedbalski R. proposed openstack/nova: detach iSCSI latest path for latest disk https://review.openstack.org/135382 | 14:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Anthony PERARD proposed openstack/nova: libvirt-xen: Replace vda by xvda in BDM v1 https://review.openstack.org/180161 | 14:05 |
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| simonklb | Hello! Is there any way to determine the loading-order of the API extensions other than the naming alphabetically? | 14:11 |
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| mriedem | simonklb: they aren't weighted | 14:12 |
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| simonklb | yea, so my problem is that I have an extension trying to access the scheduler hints, but the scheduler hints extension is loaded after my extension | 14:14 |
| simonklb | any idea how i could solve it? | 14:14 |
| simonklb | two solutions I could think of was naming my extension something that would make it loaded after the scheduler hints or extending the scheduler hints extension itself | 14:16 |
| simonklb | both not very satisfactory | 14:16 |
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| mriedem | simonklb: well in v2 api you'd have a separate extension A which the scheduler hints extension checks to see if A is loaded and uses it, like how the volumes extension checks to see if os-volume-attachment-update is loaded for the update operation | 14:17 |
| mriedem | simonklb: but we aren't doing new extensions in v2 | 14:17 |
| mriedem | in v2.1 you'd add a microversion to the scheduler hints extension | 14:17 |
| mriedem | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/devref/api_microversions.html | 14:18 |
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| dansmith | I think he's asking about scheduler filters, no? | 14:18 |
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| simonklb | no I'm asking about the scheduler extension in the API which adds the hints to the server body-dict | 14:19 |
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| dansmith | oh, I see, yeah | 14:20 |
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| simonklb | mriedem: I'm not sure how checking that it's loaded would solve it thought, if you can't force it to load after the dependent extension | 14:22 |
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| bauzas | simonklb: not sure I understand, you ask where the hints are added to the filter properties ? | 14:23 |
| simonklb | I'm already making sure that it's loaded with the extension manager is_loaded(), but it's the fact that the scheduler hints extension is executed after my extension that is the problem | 14:23 |
| mriedem | simonklb: well you're still only talking v2 | 14:23 |
| simonklb | bauzas: no I'm trying to access the scheduler hints in my own API extension (which extends the server controller's create function) | 14:24 |
| bauzas | simonklb: but hints are not provided by an API extension... | 14:25 |
| dansmith | simonklb: I don't *think* we normally have one API extension that depends on something another extension has already done | 14:25 |
| bauzas | simonklb: let me give you links | 14:25 |
| simonklb | bauzas: nova/api/openstack/compute/contrib/scheduler_hints.py | 14:25 |
| dansmith | bauzas: I think he's saying he's using the request object that has been built up by previous extensions and wants to look at what they've already parsed | 14:25 |
| bauzas | simonklb: oh that | 14:26 |
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| bauzas | simonklb: so you need to check that in your own extension right ? | 14:26 |
| bauzas | simonklb: that's not possible, since it's a layer violation IMGO | 14:26 |
| bauzas | IMHO even | 14:26 |
| simonklb | dansmith: that was what I was thinking as well, it might be that I'm thinking about this the wrong way... But say that you wanted to extend the scheduler hints with more scheduler hints, how would you go about doing that if not by another API extension? | 14:26 |
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| dansmith | simonklb: depends if you're talking about v2 or v2.1 I think | 14:28 |
| bauzas | simonklb: the hints are just something abstract for the API | 14:28 |
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| bauzas | dansmith: IIRC, there is also another WSGI extension for V2.1 | 14:30 |
| bauzas | for taking hints and providing them as create kwargs | 14:30 |
| simonklb | dansmith: I'm working with v2 as of now, but would probably move on to the latest version as it progresses | 14:30 |
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| simonklb | bauzas: I'm not sure what you mean by it's just something abstract, I'm using the scheduler hints to tell the scheduler how it should filter and weight, yea? | 14:31 |
| dansmith | simonklb: the v2 extensions aren't completely modular like you probably expect | 14:31 |
| bauzas | simonklb: right, but that goes straight to the conductor | 14:32 |
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| dansmith | simonklb: when we add something like that, we modify the original extension, and only enable the new behavior if the new extension is enabled | 14:32 |
| bauzas | simonklb: which calls the scheduler by adding the hints | 14:32 |
| dansmith | simonklb: basically, the new extension is just a placeholder for enabling/detecting the new functionality | 14:32 |
| dansmith | simonklb: in almost all cases, however, the actual code for it lives in the original spot | 14:32 |
| bauzas | simonklb: ie. API extension -> compute.api -> conductor -> scheduler | 14:32 |
| dansmith | simonklb: adding a new different thing is easily done modularly, but not really a modification like this | 14:33 |
| bauzas | simonklb: the thing is, you don't read the hints in the extensions | 14:33 |
| bauzas | simonklb: just because it would create a dependency between extensiosn | 14:34 |
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| simonklb | dansmith: bauzas: right, I'm following you, but in this case it's not really a part of the original extension, but rather a validation of the API call where some hints are not supported with the functionality I'm implementing | 14:34 |
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| simonklb | would it be better to make that check inside some other component perhaps? | 14:35 |
| simonklb | I was thinking it would be best to stop the user "at the gate" rather than letting the call pass through | 14:35 |
| bauzas | simonklb: that's not a validation | 14:35 |
| bauzas | simonklb: what do you want to gate with the hints ? | 14:35 |
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| bauzas | hints are just placeholders for an information that the scheduler reads | 14:36 |
| dansmith | simonklb: not sure that we really validate hints that way right now | 14:36 |
| dansmith | simonklb: if they're malformed or contradictory, we just ignore them or let them cause a failure to schedule, right? | 14:37 |
| bauzas | +1 | 14:37 |
| dansmith | simonklb: but even still, I think you'd do that validation in the existing extension, not a new one | 14:37 |
| bauzas | dansmith: ^ | 14:37 |
| simonklb | without going into much details, the affinity with groups is not going to work as intended with what I'm implementing | 14:37 |
| bauzas | we don't validate hints now, just because the semantics are only known by the filter it refers | 14:38 |
| simonklb | So I would just like to raise an error right away if it's used | 14:38 |
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| simonklb | right, so you think it would be better to raise the error inside the scheduler filters instead then perhaps? | 14:38 |
| bauzas | simonklb: well, I don't have a clear picture, but that's only the filter using a specific hint that knows if it's correct | 14:39 |
| bauzas | simonklb: like dansmith said, if 2 hints are conflicting - just because the keywords are identical for example - then the error will happen on the filter | 14:39 |
| dansmith | simonklb: what validation are you going to do on affinity at the API layer? | 14:39 |
| simonklb | So I'm going to use a technology where grouping multiple instances on the same server is not going to make sense, so I want to make sure that is not an option to the user | 14:39 |
| dansmith | simonklb: since the placement hasn't happened, I'm not sure what you can do there | 14:40 |
| dansmith | you just want to disable affinity altogether? | 14:40 |
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| simonklb | Yes | 14:40 |
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| simonklb | anti-affinity is fine, but not affinity | 14:40 |
| bauzas | simonklb: not sure I understand your problem, but maybe disabling the ServerGroupAffinityFilter is helping you ? | 14:41 |
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| bauzas | simonklb: if you're only considering anti-affinity? | 14:41 |
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| dansmith | he wants the request to fail | 14:42 |
| dansmith | which just isn't really how hints are supposed to act | 14:43 |
| dansmith | they're hints | 14:43 |
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| sudipto | bauzas, Thanks for your help, was able to get the spec up. | 14:43 |
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| simonklb | dansmith: sure they are hints, but they impact the placement, so I need a way to either make the request fail, like you said, or simply disable the functionality in the code | 14:44 |
| dansmith | well, | 14:45 |
| simonklb | but I'd rather not mess around with the core-code | 14:45 |
| dansmith | if you want to disable it, you write a scheduler filter that checks the hint and fails if it's specified, right? | 14:45 |
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| simonklb | that is something I haven't considered :) | 14:45 |
| simonklb | like a filter to disable another filter? | 14:46 |
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| bauzas | dansmith: simonklb: oh I see, you want to deny a request explicitely using the affinity hint ? | 14:46 |
| simonklb | yes, that was my initial thought | 14:46 |
| dansmith | simonklb: if you disable the affinity filter, it just won't honor the affinity request | 14:47 |
| bauzas | simonklb: why not just silently not taking it in account ? | 14:47 |
| bauzas | simonklb: hence my disabling of the filter | 14:47 |
| dansmith | simonklb: if you want to specifically fail hard if they provide it, then you need a filter to detect the presence of the hint and fail | 14:47 |
| bauzas | dansmith beated me | 14:47 |
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| simonklb | yea it sounds like a good solution to me | 14:47 |
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| bauzas | simonklb: which one ? :) | 14:48 |
| simonklb | well both would solve the problem, but just letting it pass by silently might confuse the user, so I think I'm going with the "fail-filter" :) | 14:49 |
| bauzas | simonklb: oh I see your point | 14:50 |
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| dansmith | simonklb: sounds like maybe you need forced anti-affinity too | 14:50 |
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| bauzas | simonklb: you mean that as an operator, you want to provide a feedback loop to the user explaining what is not possible with your specific deployment ? | 14:51 |
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| bauzas | since the user doesn't know which filters are alive | 14:51 |
| simonklb | dansmith: yea, that is taken care of since my scheduler schedules pairs of hosts, rather than single hosts | 14:51 |
| bauzas | so he doesn't know if a specific hint would work or not | 14:51 |
| dansmith | okay | 14:52 |
| simonklb | bauzas: yea, I guess the only problem with it would that it would say like "no hosts available" as the reason right? | 14:53 |
| dansmith | right | 14:53 |
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| dansmith | well, no | 14:53 |
| dansmith | if you just disable it | 14:53 |
| dansmith | then it will schedule normally and just not honor the hint | 14:53 |
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| dansmith | leaving it enabled and then requiring a pair would probably end up with the no-hosts all the time | 14:54 |
| dansmith | because they're requesting a set of hosts with nothing in the intersection | 14:54 |
| simonklb | yea, but I don't think just skipping the hint is the best way either since then the user might assume that it's working as intended | 14:54 |
| dansmith | right | 14:54 |
| dansmith | I mean, | 14:54 |
| bauzas | simonklb: the main problem is that if you hard-check the hints, you will just return False | 14:55 |
| dansmith | they're supposed to be hints such that they're not really things you can rely on I think, so that expectation of the user would be wrong | 14:55 |
| bauzas | simonklb: so the user will only get "Sorry, no valid host !" without explicitely knowing the reason | 14:55 |
| dansmith | but if you're worried about *your* users then you could optimize | 14:55 |
| simonklb | really? I thought it was a little bit more ensuring than that | 14:56 |
| bauzas | simonklb: I just think it's worse to fail a boot request for an unknown reason than accept to boot without exactly knowing why it succeeded IMHO | 14:56 |
| simonklb | It would be an unknown reason if I gave it the reason | 14:56 |
| bauzas | simonklb: yup, scheduler doesn't tell back to the conductor *why* it failed | 14:57 |
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| simonklb | yea, so that's really the only problem I have right now | 14:57 |
| simonklb | using a filter to fail the placement when trying to use affinity would be ok, but the only reason given to the conductor would be "no available hosts" | 14:57 |
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| bauzas | simonklb: I would just suggest you to write a specific internal documentation providing which filters are accepted and then only disable the filters you don't want | 14:58 |
| simonklb | and that wouldn't really tell the whole story | 14:58 |
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| simonklb | Yea, I'm just worried people will not follow the documentation... ;) | 14:58 |
| bauzas | simonklb: just expose which filters you're running so your users know about that | 14:58 |
| bauzas | simonklb: eh, that's the same for API extensions right ? | 14:58 |
| simonklb | Configuring everything correctly would solve most of the issues, but users arent reliable.. | 14:58 |
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| bauzas | simonklb: users could want to use a specific endpoint which is not available in your cloud, or whose policy should only accept admin | 14:59 |
| simonklb | Well, the users would have the extension enabled as default if they used the rest of the code | 14:59 |
| bauzas | simonklb: by some extent, you need to tell your users what is accepted within your cloud | 14:59 |
| simonklb | yea the human factor is always a problem, that's why I'd like to eliminate it as much as possible with automatic checks | 15:00 |
| bauzas | simonklb: but as I explained, the current state doesn't allow you to explain why it sucks | 15:01 |
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| bauzas | simonklb: of course, *you* are knowing why it failed (thanks of logs) | 15:01 |
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| simonklb | Yea, I think that filter logs should have to do | 15:02 |
| simonklb | quick last question if I haven't tired you enough already :) is there any quick way of disabling volume booting as well? | 15:03 |
| alaski | there's a policy you can set 'compute:create:attach_volume' or something like that | 15:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Roman Podoliaka proposed openstack/nova: Fix rebuild of an instance with a volume attached https://review.openstack.org/176891 | 15:04 |
| edleafe | bauzas: are we having the scheduler meeting? | 15:05 |
| bauzas | oh man | 15:05 |
| simonklb | alaski: if I'm not mistaken you can both create an instance with an attached volume but you can also boot from a volume, which is different, correct? | 15:05 |
| alaski | simonklb: though that policy is poorly named, I think it prevents bfv | 15:05 |
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| simonklb | alaski: right, thanks! | 15:06 |
| alaski | I'm not sure we distinguish between those two cases in policy | 15:06 |
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| simonklb | oh, so it will disable both normal attaching and booting? | 15:07 |
| bauzas | nova scheduler meeting now in #openstack-meeting | 15:07 |
| alaski | I think it might, but I'm not 100% sure | 15:07 |
| alaski | simonklb: attaching on create, not after it's booted | 15:07 |
| simonklb | yea, I'll continue the digging! thanks a lot for the help everyone | 15:08 |
| dansmith | alaski: is that just because that policy is checked on some lower layer though? | 15:09 |
| dansmith | alaski: like, we're removing those, so is there a chance that will stop being an effective hack/ | 15:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Drop compute RPC 3.x support https://review.openstack.org/179951 | 15:10 |
| alaski | dansmith: I'm not sure there's going to be a behavior change with that move | 15:11 |
| alaski | I mean, I don't think there's a hack here. I think we have a poorly named policy, and not enough granularity | 15:11 |
| dansmith | alaski: there is a move to check policy only at the api layer and not in the lower layers, right? | 15:12 |
| dansmith | presumably that policy change makes it work because the internal BFV code calls the attach logic and trips the policy there right? | 15:12 |
| alaski | dansmith: right. this is in the compute api and would move up one layer | 15:12 |
| alaski | ahh, no. this is caught up front currently | 15:13 |
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| dansmith | alaski: explicitly a the api layer knowing an attach will come later? | 15:13 |
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| alaski | dansmith: right. it says "did you pass in volume info? if yes then let me check policy before even creating an isntance object" | 15:14 |
| dansmith | ah, okay cool | 15:14 |
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| jichen | sdague: hi, got a minute on quick question for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/173985/ ? | 15:16 |
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| sdague | jichen: yep | 15:17 |
| jichen | sdague: I don't think a microversion is needed becaues https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/APIChangeGuidelines says it's ok to do so | 15:19 |
| jichen | sdague: if we are fine to change error code , we can avoid microversion, thoughts? | 15:19 |
| sdague | jichen: I think gilliard_afk or jaypipes need to be looped in on this | 15:19 |
| sdague | microversions are cheap | 15:20 |
| jichen | sdague: um... I agree it's cheap but seems this will request every change to API with a microversion | 15:20 |
| sdague | jichen: that was kind of the point | 15:20 |
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| dansmith | sdague: they're cheap, but they do pollute to code a little, so not doing them when appropriate is a gain | 15:21 |
| jichen | sdague: let me ping gilliard_afk or jaypipes in case they have more thoughts , | 15:21 |
| dansmith | sdague: i.e. if ver < X: do_buggy_thing() | 15:21 |
| dansmith | sdague: not sure what the case is here, I haven't looked | 15:21 |
| dansmith | sounds like returning 4xx instead of 5xx? | 15:21 |
| jichen | dansmith: yes | 15:22 |
| sdague | no, it's adding a new 4xx code | 15:22 |
| sdague | for a call to mean something else | 15:22 |
| sdague | I agree fixing a 500 isn't a microversion | 15:22 |
| dansmith | wasn't it returning 500 on OverQuota before? | 15:23 |
| dansmith | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/173985/3/nova/api/openstack/compute/contrib/volumes.py,cm | 15:23 |
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| sdague | oh, it is | 15:23 |
| sdague | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/173985/3/nova/api/openstack/compute/plugins/v3/volumes.py,cm - L 134 is the reason this seems like a microversion to me | 15:24 |
| sdague | because that was never an expected client side error for this call before | 15:24 |
| dansmith | well, | 15:24 |
| dansmith | it might be expected but never delivered :) | 15:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | so quick question | 15:24 |
| dansmith | personally, I think this is okay to do without | 15:24 |
| sdague | but, anyway, I'll defer to jay on something like this. We do probably need some clearer specs around this stuff | 15:25 |
| dansmith | a microversion | 15:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | so what do we do for old version? | 15:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | old version should probably not return 500 | 15:25 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy: I assumed 400 | 15:25 |
| sdague | it was something in the docs as "can return this" | 15:25 |
| sdague | and in the code if people expected it | 15:25 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: well, that's one reason I don't want to make this a microversion, because as I said above, we'd have to emulate the 5xx for older versions, IMHO | 15:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: yeah, its just if we change all version, then its a very weak reason to bump the version | 15:26 |
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| dansmith | sdague: is that because the presence of that decorator makes docs that list the things that can be returned? | 15:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: right, the bump kinda implies we keep doing 500 for old ones, which is wrong | 15:26 |
| sdague | ok, so I guess the issue is that it's really 2 changes | 15:26 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: right | 15:26 |
| sdague | 1 is "stop failing" | 15:26 |
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| dansmith | sdague: you want 400 if old, 403 if new? | 15:26 |
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| sdague | 2 is "report this new kind of information for specific exceptions" | 15:26 |
| sdague | that seems consistent | 15:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | that could work | 15:27 |
| dansmith | it makes the code a disaster for something that really shouldn't need it, IMHO | 15:27 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: right the cost of keeping that if statement for ever sounds terrible | 15:27 |
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| johnthetubaguy | although, its possible the most correct thing to do | 15:28 |
| dansmith | I think we have to think about what a client would do here | 15:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: it wouldn't care right, in general? | 15:28 |
| dansmith | like, are they going to do anything different if they get a 403 vs a 400? | 15:28 |
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| johnthetubaguy | they could, I guess | 15:28 |
| dansmith | they are expecting 400 is possible, but if they get a 403, what will they do? | 15:28 |
| sdague | if the answer is "no" then we shouldn't use 2 codes | 15:28 |
| dansmith | and will they do anything differently if they get 403 instead of the 500 they get now? | 15:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | so 403 and 500 are both unexpected to old clients, there for the same? | 15:29 |
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| dansmith | sdague: well, if they are depending on the 500 now, then we're using two codes already | 15:29 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: that's what I'm thinking | 15:29 |
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| sdague | 500 isn't a code that is used, it's "everything broke" | 15:30 |
| dansmith | sure, | 15:30 |
| dansmith | which is why I don't think 403 is any different if they get that and aren't expecting it | 15:30 |
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| sdague | so... given the various POV here, maybe this discussion should get into the nova track? | 15:30 |
| dansmith | sdague: I get that you're being pedantic and that's probably safest wrt APIs, but I do think we have to consider some things like this as maybe not worthwhile | 15:31 |
| dansmith | well, we have some api slots, right? | 15:31 |
| dansmith | we could just add this to the list of things to discuss | 15:31 |
| dansmith | maybe with operator feedback about what they care about and not | 15:31 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, I think its part of the "when to bump the API microversion discussion" we have scheduled | 15:31 |
| dansmith | cool | 15:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | there is a dev ref review of this already I think | 15:32 |
| sdague | sure, though it's mostly not operators that care, it's going to be the end users trying to write applications | 15:32 |
| dansmith | sdague: well, they know more about what their users value than sometimes we do I think | 15:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | and devananda forwarded some related work ironic has done on microversions which might help | 15:32 |
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| dansmith | sdague: based on RAX feedback we got about v2, etc | 15:32 |
| dansmith | but yeah | 15:32 |
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| johnthetubaguy | we (rackspace) do have a developer experience group, I should try get them along to these API sessions | 15:33 |
| sdague | because, it's not like we argue about it for rpc versions :) | 15:33 |
| sdague | nah, that's not worth a version bumb in rpc | 15:33 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: I think its the what do we do for older clients that should be agreed here | 15:33 |
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| sdague | johnthetubaguy: sure | 15:34 |
| dansmith | sdague: we're our only client of the rpc interface, so it's easier :) | 15:34 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: we could bump just to tell folks something changed, I guess, but that seems less of a big deal | 15:34 |
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| dansmith | so for the time being do we go 500->400 and avoid the bump and the change | 15:34 |
| dansmith | ? | 15:34 |
| dansmith | for this specific case | 15:34 |
| sdague | I'd be completely happy with that | 15:34 |
| cfriesen | bauzas: for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/169827/8/nova/compute/manager.py I'm not quite sure what you're suggesting in your comment. As far as I can tell adding the call to self.network_api.setup_instance_network_on_host() does fix things for both nova-network and neutron. | 15:35 |
| dansmith | TBH, I'm not sure 403 is really the right response for that case anyway :) | 15:35 |
| sdague | dansmith: sure, then we can discuss the 403 thing later | 15:35 |
| sdague | fixing a stacktrace and fitting the response into an existing expected error code by an end point - it's a bug fix, not a bump for sure | 15:36 |
| dansmith | what I meant was, | 15:36 |
| dansmith | 403 doesn't seem to match with "overquota" to me | 15:36 |
| bauzas | cfriesen: my problem is that we're just adding a new call because the existing method is not doing the same behaviour depending on the backend you have, right ? | 15:36 |
| sdague | dansmith: yeh, 403 does actually seem weird here | 15:36 |
| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/nova: VMware: add in vnic resource limitations https://review.openstack.org/180202 | 15:37 |
| dansmith | maybe 402: Payment required :) | 15:37 |
| cfriesen | bauzas: no, we're adding a new call because the old call isn't good enough for either nova-network *or* neutron | 15:37 |
| dansmith | since it's quota :P | 15:37 |
| sdague | heh | 15:37 |
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| bauzas | cfriesen: then your comment confused me | 15:37 |
| cfriesen | bauzas: for nova-network we need the new call to move floatingIPs over to the new host | 15:37 |
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| cfriesen | bauzas: for neutron we need the new call to update the host in the neutron port binding | 15:37 |
| dansmith | jichen: got that ^ ? | 15:37 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: sdague: does this help if its a quota error: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/api-wg/tree/guidelines/http.rst#n43 | 15:37 |
| dansmith | bah | 15:38 |
| jichen | dansmith: yes, :) | 15:38 |
| dansmith | seems weird to me | 15:38 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: I can live with consistently weird | 15:38 |
| bauzas | cfriesen: I understand there are 2 actions to do, based on their own backedns | 15:38 |
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| sdague | johnthetubaguy: yeh, that seems kind of weird actually, 403 is really supposed to be this user doesn't have access to this endpoint | 15:38 |
| sdague | and shouldn't change based on backend state | 15:38 |
| sdague | that probably needs to be revisited | 15:39 |
| cfriesen | bauzas: the existing call did something on nova-networks but didn't do anything for neutron. but the old call wasn't sufficient for nova-networks | 15:39 |
| sdague | anyway | 15:39 |
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| bauzas | cfriesen: now my question is, why just not considering only one method to call, and make sure that in the network api, it does the glue ? | 15:39 |
| sdague | jichen: how about you make the 500 -> 400 change | 15:39 |
| dansmith | sdague: right, that's my feeling | 15:39 |
| sdague | and we can discuss the quota thing separately | 15:39 |
| jichen | sdague: ok , I can do that | 15:39 |
| bauzas | cfriesen: as I said, I don't like having that kind of "if neutron, call this, if n-net, call that" | 15:39 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: dansmith: thats a good plan, thanks | 15:39 |
| bauzas | cfriesen: that's not technically ifs | 15:40 |
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| cfriesen | bauzas: we're not doing that. nova-network needs both calls. | 15:40 |
| jichen | sdague: but seems we got some code in API, such as server_groups.py | 15:40 |
| cfriesen | bauzas: technically neutron only needs one call, but the other one doesn't hurt since it's just a no-op for neturon | 15:40 |
| bauzas | cfriesen: okay I see | 15:40 |
| jichen | sdague: they treat nova.exception.OverQuota as 403 | 15:40 |
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| bauzas | cfriesen: as I said, I think your comment is confusing me | 15:40 |
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| jichen | sdague: maybe updated as well ? | 15:41 |
| bauzas | cfriesen: tbh, I think the comment is even not necessary | 15:41 |
| cfriesen | bauzas: I was trying to follow mriedem's request to explain why the second API call is needed. | 15:41 |
| bauzas | cfriesen: I see | 15:41 |
| bauzas | cfriesen: bah | 15:42 |
| bauzas | cfriesen: okay, changing my vote | 15:42 |
| sdague | jichen: yeh, so that all actually predates the api-wg, it was never really discussed | 15:42 |
| bauzas | cfriesen: just because I understand now that the problem is that it needs an extra call | 15:42 |
| mriedem | bauzas: do_network_thing_1() do_network_slightly_different_thing_1() w/o a comment is confusing | 15:42 |
| sdague | in looking through the history | 15:42 |
| mriedem | bauzas: for posterity | 15:43 |
| bauzas | mriedem: yup, I was confused, I thought he was proposing do_sth_for_nnet(); do_sth_for_neutron() | 15:43 |
| mriedem | well, that's kind of what's happening | 15:43 |
| cfriesen | bauzas: thanks...I'm not a networking guy but this API does seem like something that could be cleaned up | 15:43 |
| mriedem | b/c the network APIs are implemented differently | 15:43 |
| bauzas | mriedem: my point was that the API should be backend agnostic | 15:43 |
| mriedem | ideally we'd have one network API call here that would fix this for both n-net and neutron | 15:44 |
| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: devref: add information to clarify nova scope https://review.openstack.org/178623 | 15:44 |
| mriedem | bauzas: i totally agree | 15:44 |
| bauzas | mriedem: that's my point | 15:44 |
| bauzas | mriedem: is this something hard to do ? | 15:44 |
| mriedem | bauzas: and i believe cfriesen was working a separate patch for that for the same bug a couple of weeks ago | 15:44 |
| mriedem | bauzas: i think the issue might have been what changing the pass in the neutron api would do to other flows calling it | 15:44 |
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| cfriesen | mriedem: yep...but that was before someone pointed out that nova-network floating IPs were broken on evac too | 15:45 |
| cfriesen | mriedem: so this is the cleanest fix, I think | 15:45 |
| bauzas | mriedem: cfriesen: I thought there was some planned work for the network API right ? | 15:45 |
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| bauzas | mriedem: cfriesen: I heard about beagles working on that right ? | 15:46 |
| cfriesen | bauzas: I have no idea. not really a networking guy. :) | 15:46 |
| bauzas | cfriesen: mriedem: I think the main problem is that this kind of comment, while helping to understand why, is just creating a precedence by explicitely mentioning the backend | 15:47 |
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| mriedem | bauzas: so let's throw a TODO in there to consolidate and fix the network API | 15:47 |
| cfriesen | bauzas: mriedem: okay, should I just change the comment to be more generic and say that at this point in time this second call is actually needed, not a typo | 15:47 |
| mriedem | the simple fix is backportable to stable/kilo | 15:47 |
| bauzas | cfriesen: mriedem: so I would be in favor of a big fat comment explaining why it sucks, why it's not possible to merge both calls, and why nobody should do that again | 15:47 |
| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Skip only one host weight calculation https://review.openstack.org/137275 | 15:47 |
| bauzas | mriedem: a TODO is fine | 15:48 |
| mriedem | cfriesen: i'd add a TODO or FIXME to consolidate | 15:48 |
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| bauzas | mriedem: agreed, I don't want to pushback a change if that's helping | 15:48 |
| cfriesen | mriedem: bauzas: leave what's there as-is and add a TODO? | 15:48 |
| mriedem | bauzas: there are already ugly is_neutron checks in the compute API | 15:48 |
| bauzas | oh man... | 15:48 |
| mriedem | yeah | 15:48 |
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| cfriesen | okay, will respin | 15:49 |
| bauzas | cfriesen: thanks, sorry don't want to nitpick, just mattering on how people are just copy/pasting patterns | 15:49 |
| cfriesen | bauzas: no worries | 15:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Use oslo-config-generator https://review.openstack.org/180013 | 15:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Eric Harney proposed openstack/nova: Fix missing format arg in compute manager https://review.openstack.org/180207 | 15:50 |
| bauzas | mriedem: my is_neutron check killed me | 15:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Fix typo for test cases https://review.openstack.org/179211 | 15:50 |
| bauzas | 10 matches | 15:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Fix typo for test cases https://review.openstack.org/179211 | 15:51 |
| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: devref: add information to clarify nova scope https://review.openstack.org/178623 | 15:51 |
| dansmith | mriedem: who is "bob hansen"? | 15:52 |
| dansmith | mriedem: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/178623/ | 15:52 |
| mriedem | dansmith: never heard of him | 15:53 |
| dansmith | mriedem: he's having trouble merging changes automatically | 15:53 |
| dansmith | mriedem: and my email tells me he's from IBM | 15:53 |
| mriedem | z giu | 15:53 |
| mriedem | *guy | 15:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Friesen proposed openstack/nova: fix network setup on evacuate https://review.openstack.org/169827 | 15:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/nova: VMware: add in vnic resource limitations https://review.openstack.org/180202 | 15:55 |
| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/nova: VMware: create commom object for instance Limits https://review.openstack.org/179059 | 15:55 |
| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/nova: VMware: Resource limits for memory https://review.openstack.org/179060 | 15:55 |
| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/nova: VMware: store extra_specs object https://review.openstack.org/179061 | 15:55 |
| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/nova: VMware: add resource limits for disk https://review.openstack.org/179062 | 15:55 |
| mriedem | dansmith: ooooo | 15:55 |
| mriedem | i bet he's setting up gerrit triggers | 15:55 |
| mriedem | for zvm or something | 15:55 |
| mriedem | bork | 15:55 |
| mriedem | dansmith: i know who to yell at | 15:55 |
| dansmith | sweet | 15:55 |
| bauzas | cfriesen: so you're adding a FIXME, you're planning to unify those 2 calls eh ? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/169827/9/nova/compute/manager.py,cm | 15:55 |
| bauzas | cfriesen: jinxed | 15:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Victor Stinner proposed openstack/nova-specs: Adding Python 3.4 support to Nova https://review.openstack.org/176868 | 15:56 |
| cfriesen | bauzas: I very carefully avoided putting my name on it. | 15:56 |
| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Catch OverQuota in volume create function https://review.openstack.org/173985 | 15:56 |
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| bauzas | cfriesen: http://static1.squarespace.com/static/518f5d62e4b075248d6a3f90/t/529265dee4b03e7a0729af8a/1385326056122/git-blame2.jpg | 15:57 |
| cfriesen | LOL | 15:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Eric Harney proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Proxy RBD library call into a separate thread https://review.openstack.org/180212 | 15:57 |
| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Skip only one host weight calculation https://review.openstack.org/137275 | 15:58 |
| bauzas | cfriesen: is hacking accepting a FIXME without a name ? not sure | 15:58 |
| haypo | johnthetubaguy, ok, i updated my python 3 spec to simply say "nova tests". is it better? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/176868/10/specs/liberty/approved/adding-python34-support-to-nova.rst | 15:59 |
| dansmith | cfriesen: not putting your name on it is kinda uncool, IMHO | 15:59 |
| cfriesen | bauzas: mellanox CI is saying I need to rebase. guess I'll do one more version | 15:59 |
| dansmith | cfriesen: doesn't mean you have to fix it, but at least there's a point of contact | 15:59 |
| dansmith | mellanox is failing on everything today | 15:59 |
| dansmith | including devref changes | 15:59 |
| bauzas | yup | 15:59 |
| dansmith | so I don't think it's legit | 16:00 |
| johnthetubaguy | haypo: I think you should be passing tempest, unit and functional, if that makes sese? | 16:00 |
| johnthetubaguy | sense^ | 16:00 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: not that I much care, but until we're running a tempest job on py3, I think it's hard to say that it's "fully supported" | 16:00 |
| bauzas | dansmith: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ThirdPartySystems Mellanox needs to update it IMHO | 16:00 |
| cfriesen | dansmith: okay, fair enough on the FIXME point of contact. I can do that much. Was just nervous about being expected to actually fix it. | 16:01 |
| haypo | johnthetubaguy, well, the goal is to ensure that *all* tests pass on python 3, so unit+functional+tempest. it doesn't help to specify each kind of test in the spec | 16:01 |
| dansmith | cfriesen: that's not really what it means | 16:01 |
| bauzas | cfriesen: if that, just TODO it | 16:01 |
| dansmith | cfriesen: and people fix my FIXMEs all the time | 16:01 |
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| bauzas | I honestly wonder why all of this FIXME vs. TODO | 16:01 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy: so... originally when we carved off functional, the point was not to run on multiple python interpreters for that test stack | 16:01 |
| haypo | dansmith, i agree that tempest are the best tests | 16:01 |
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| sdague | if we are reversing that, we probably want to rethink how we are doing the tox tags, because we're kind of defeating ourselves in the current structure | 16:02 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sdague: hmm OK | 16:02 |
| haypo | dansmith, it's easy to miss some obvious bugs with unit tests which mock most components :) and i'm not sure that functional tests have a coverage as good as tempest tests | 16:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: I guess the ballooning of the tests would by crazy | 16:02 |
| cfriesen | bauzas: guess I should unify my launchpad ID and my IRC nick too... | 16:03 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sdague: it just feels like py27 and py34 are different enough to be worth it, or does that seem dumb? | 16:03 |
| sdague | personally, I'd say unit first (there is existing infrastructure) then sort out getting tempest up | 16:03 |
| dansmith | cfriesen: mine aren't FWIW | 16:03 |
| dansmith | cfriesen: because: smith | 16:03 |
| bauzas | cfriesen: well, you're speaking at bauzas/sbauza/sylvain-bauza/bauwser | 16:03 |
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| dansmith | sdague: +1 | 16:03 |
| cfriesen | :) | 16:03 |
| bauzas | so/at/to | 16:03 |
| lxsli | sdague: re: 137275, won't PS#11 fail if obj_list is None? | 16:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: I think thats the plan the spec tries to say | 16:03 |
| sdague | lxsli: do we expect it to be None? | 16:03 |
| lxsli | sdague: I don't know but the old code would have handled that | 16:04 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sdague: dansmith: I was more worried that unit is considered enough and then the work stops, and that feels bad | 16:04 |
| dansmith | alaski: so are you going to look at that run_instance test refactor today? If not, or not until later, I'll take a crack at some more of them in the meantime | 16:04 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: yeah, I requested tempest inclusion early on in my review on that | 16:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Friesen proposed openstack/nova: fix network setup on evacuate https://review.openstack.org/169827 | 16:05 |
| alaski | dansmith: I am. I'm looking at it now, just multitasking a bit, and grabbing lunch in a few | 16:05 |
| cfriesen | ^ TODO with my name | 16:05 |
| dansmith | alaski: okay, no problem, just didn't want to duplicate anything | 16:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: yeah, it seems wrong to exclude that IMHO | 16:05 |
| dansmith | alaski: obviously VERY appreciative of you helping :) | 16:05 |
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| bauzas | alaski: removing the last bits of run_instance() ? I give you bonus points too | 16:06 |
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| ekhugen | dansmith, sorry for the random commenting from bob hansen, he's working on setting up CI and accidentally set it to report, he's turned it off now, sorry | 16:06 |
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| dansmith | ekhugen: appreciated, thanks | 16:06 |
| alaski | dansmith: yep, I'll hold the lock for a bit atm | 16:06 |
| dansmith | ekhugen: you guys know that you should be using a specific account when you're ready right? | 16:06 |
| BobH | Hey all, an apology is in order, my jenkins setup should not have voted on the most recent patches | 16:06 |
| dansmith | alaski: ack :) | 16:06 |
| alaski | bauzas: dansmith is doing the bulk of the work, I'm just helping look at a few things | 16:06 |
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| sdague | lxsli: all paths into that code that I can see have exitted early if the host list is not defined | 16:07 |
| bauzas | dansmith: your change is Remove Compute API v3 ? | 16:07 |
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| ekhugen | dansmith yes, we do, we've been working with kurt taylor and the CI guys, bob has just been trying to get things to listen and he didn't think he was reporting | 16:07 |
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| lxsli | sdague: OK, I'll change my vote | 16:07 |
| dansmith | okay | 16:07 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy: yeh, until it runs full stack testing with tempest, I don't consider it done for sure | 16:08 |
| dansmith | sdague: +1 | 16:08 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sdague: +1 on that, that was my main concern here | 16:11 |
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| chhavi | mriedem: I want to discuss on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/179697/1 | 16:13 |
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| lxsli | after a patch has +2, are +1s still useful? ofc -1s and comments can be | 16:14 |
| mriedem | chhavi: ok | 16:14 |
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| chhavi | To give some background, | 16:15 |
| chhavi | RPC API for detach volume passes the volume_id and instance as kwargs:- | 16:15 |
| chhavi | def detach_volume(self, ctxt, instance, volume_id): | 16:15 |
| chhavi | cctxt.cast(ctxt, 'detach_volume', | 16:15 |
| chhavi | instance=instance, volume_id=volume_id) | 16:15 |
| chhavi | With the changes done in _ComputeV4Proxy detach_volume | 16:15 |
| chhavi | def detach_volume(self, ctxt, volume_id, instance): | 16:15 |
| chhavi | # NOTE(danms): Pass instance by kwarg to help the object_compat | 16:15 |
| chhavi | # decorator, as real RPC dispatch does. | 16:15 |
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| dansmith | lxsli: of course they are | 16:15 |
| chhavi | return self.manager.detach_volume(ctxt, volume_id, | 16:15 |
| chhavi | instance=instance) | 16:15 |
| chhavi | We are changing the way volume_id was passed previously from kwargs to passed as an args. | 16:15 |
| mriedem | chhavi: please use paste | 16:15 |
| chhavi | Impact | 16:15 |
| chhavi | It breaks the backward compatibility with the previous releases. | 16:15 |
| dansmith | chhavi: please don't do that | 16:15 |
| chhavi | Consider if there are any decorators implemented on top of detach_volume which expects that | 16:15 |
| chhavi | volume_id is received in kwargs. Since RPC still passes volume_id as kwargs. | 16:15 |
| mriedem | chhavi: http://paste.openstack.org/ | 16:15 |
| chhavi | With the new changes for _ComputeV4Proxy it got broken since now volume_id is passed as an normal | 16:15 |
| chhavi | positional argument. | 16:15 |
| chhavi | I understand that we can still resolve this issue by modifying the decorator. But just wondering | 16:15 |
| chhavi | if there is a specific reason for changing the volume_id argument type behavior. | 16:15 |
| chhavi | ok sorry | 16:15 |
| mriedem | chhavi: do you have a stacktrace to put in the bug report? | 16:15 |
| bauzas | lxsli: any review is valuable IMHO | 16:16 |
| lxsli | dansmith: just checking, thanks, I feel a bit weird saying "me too" sometimes | 16:16 |
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| mriedem | chhavi: your commit message said that the object_compat decorator was an issue, but that doesn't check volume_id | 16:16 |
| chhavi | There are no stacktrace for this issue. | 16:16 |
| mriedem | chhavi: do you have an out of tree decorator that is checking volume_id from kwargs? | 16:17 |
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| bauzas | lxsli: at least you need time for checking if you agree with the nova-core, that's just worth leaving a note | 16:17 |
| chhavi | yes | 16:17 |
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| mriedem | chhavi: then fix your decorator | 16:17 |
| chhavi | Are there any specific reason for changing the volume_id argument type | 16:18 |
| mriedem | chhavi: see the reverts_task_state decorator and how it normalizes the args into a single dict | 16:18 |
| mriedem | so you can get the volume_id from that | 16:18 |
| mriedem | chhavi: you can use safe_utils.getcallargs | 16:18 |
| chhavi | since the same code works with juno release | 16:18 |
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| mriedem | chhavi: it doesn't really matter | 16:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Roman Podoliaka proposed openstack/nova: rebuild: make sure server is shut down before volumes are detached https://review.openstack.org/176892 | 16:19 |
| mriedem | decorators shouldn't rely on strict args/kwargs for positions or placement, IMO, the decorator should noramlize the args into a single dict using safe_utils.getcallargs | 16:19 |
| mriedem | like reverts_task_state | 16:19 |
| mriedem | chhavi: the _ComputeV4Proxy stuff is going away soon in liberty anyway | 16:19 |
| mriedem | once dansmith stops being so lazy :P | 16:19 |
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| chhavi | yes i had fixed by using args instead of kwargs. but just wondering if there are any specific reason. | 16:20 |
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| dansmith | chhavi: these are not stable APIs so you can and should expect them to continue to change for any reason | 16:20 |
| dansmith | including "for fun" | 16:20 |
| chhavi | ok, so we should not be hitting this issue in liberty. | 16:20 |
| mriedem | chhavi: not really, i believe the method calls were just copy/paste from the rpc api when it was created | 16:20 |
| mriedem | chhavi: well, | 16:20 |
| dansmith | lxsli: then don't say that, +1 and describe what you did to validate the change post +2. That looks a lot more legit, helps the next reviewer, and shows you're not just piling on :) | 16:21 |
| mriedem | you can hit any issues wiht out of tree code | 16:21 |
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| mriedem | ekhugen: BobH: thanks | 16:22 |
| lxsli | dansmith: and if I just read the code and don't have comments? All looks good? | 16:22 |
| bauzas | dansmith: lxsli: I think that's all about how you work. I personnally take time to review so sometimes, when I'm ready to vote, it's already +W | 16:22 |
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| dansmith | lxsli: your call, just trying to help suggest how you can avoid always looking like a pile-on :) | 16:23 |
| bauzas | dansmith: lxsli: then I prefer to leave my +1 even if that could be consider as gamification just because I hate spending time on thingsq | 16:23 |
| bauzas | wasting time I mean | 16:23 |
| chhavi | Thanks, I think once _ComputeV4Proxy goes away in liberty we will not hit the issue. So its not required to have this change now. | 16:23 |
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| mriedem | chhavi: well you'll still have this problem in stable/kilo | 16:23 |
| mriedem | chhavi: so you'll need to fix your out of tree decorator | 16:23 |
| bauzas | the vote is just a visible result of the internal process you made for validating the change | 16:23 |
| mriedem | chhavi: but 'this broke my out of tree code' isn't justification for fixing it upstream in nova | 16:23 |
| chhavi | yes we had fixed the issue in the decorator. | 16:24 |
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| lxsli | dansmith: bauzas: ah well as I get better at spotting issues my ratio of reviews with comments should go up | 16:25 |
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| lxsli | thanks for your resposnes | 16:26 |
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| chhavi | mriedem: Idea behind pushing into the upstream nova is to keep the prototype same as before. | 16:31 |
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| mriedem | chhavi: then you should do it for all methods in the compute v4 proxy, to change them all to pass as kwargs | 16:33 |
| bauzas | chhavi: please don't ask us to maintain internal APIs as stable :) | 16:33 |
| mriedem | chhavi: but anyway, you have a fix, this code is going away in liberty, so i think we're good here now | 16:33 |
| chhavi | ok i got it. taking my bug back :) | 16:34 |
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| bauzas | oh man, I had zero time to give http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/devref/policies.html#public-contractual-apis | 16:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed openstack/nova: Mark ironic credential config as secret https://review.openstack.org/179857 | 16:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Eric Brown proposed openstack/nova: Deprecate nova ironic driver's admin_auth_token https://review.openstack.org/179960 | 16:48 |
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| edleafe | lxsli: I hate it when I review the code, add a +1, only to find someone +2'd it in the interim | 17:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Anita Kuno proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Add qualifier "only for Rackspace' to agent help https://review.openstack.org/180234 | 17:00 |
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| edleafe | lxsli: really makes it looks like piling on | 17:00 |
| lxsli | edleafe: or you +/-1, they put up a patchset and it gets +2 before you get back to it | 17:01 |
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| -openstackstatus- NOTICE: zuul has been restarted to troubleshoot an issue, gerrit events between 15:00-17:00 utc were lost and changes updated or approved during that time will need to be rechecked or have their approval votes readded to trigger testing | 17:04 | |
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| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Use oslo-config-generator https://review.openstack.org/180013 | 17:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: Use oslo-config-generator instead of generate_sample.sh https://review.openstack.org/180013 | 18:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed openstack/nova: Mark ironic credential config as secret https://review.openstack.org/179857 | 18:13 |
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| jogo | can we turn off Mellanox CI | 18:14 |
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| jogo | mriedem: you have the power | 18:15 |
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| mriedem | jogo: it's not in here https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/511,members | 18:16 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/511,members is for voting i think | 18:16 |
| jogo | mriedem: ohh its non-voting | 18:16 |
| mriedem | i don't think we can control it from commenting | 18:16 |
| mriedem | we have to tell the maintainers | 18:16 |
| mriedem | who aren't around | 18:16 |
| jogo | fuck | 18:16 |
| mriedem | whoa | 18:16 |
| mriedem | ha | 18:16 |
| mriedem | now you're talking my language | 18:16 |
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| jogo | haha | 18:17 |
| dansmith | they just turned it on a day ago | 18:17 |
| jogo | I don't like seeing all those merge failed messages | 18:17 |
| jogo | argh | 18:17 |
| mriedem | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ThirdPartySystems/Mellanox_CI | 18:17 |
| dansmith | yeah, someone else was going to rebase because of it, for no reason | 18:17 |
| jogo | did it ever work? | 18:17 |
| dansmith | jogo: this is our first interaction with it I think | 18:18 |
| jogo | Ijust did taht | 18:18 |
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| jogo | did anyone email the contact? | 18:18 |
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| mriedem | Lenny Verkhovsky <openstack_ci@mellanox.com> | 18:19 |
| mriedem | not me | 18:19 |
| jogo | ahh anita is working on it in infra | 18:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Vilobh Meshram proposed openstack/nova-specs: Replace service groups with the tooz groups https://review.openstack.org/138607 | 18:22 |
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| cfriesen | I keep seeing this tooz stuff...anyone know what it's using for tracking health? | 18:26 |
| * cfriesen should probably just go read the code | 18:26 | |
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| dansmith | cfriesen: zookeeper | 18:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: Use oslo-config-generator instead of generate_sample.sh https://review.openstack.org/180013 | 18:29 |
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| anteaya | jogo: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/third-party-announce/2015-May/000176.html | 18:36 |
| anteaya | jogo: the person who I talk to the most is lennyb | 18:36 |
| anteaya | jogo: let me know if you need anything from me and what comes from the conversation | 18:36 |
| dansmith | anteaya: yeah was looking for him or moshele here today | 18:36 |
| dansmith | but haven't seem them yet | 18:36 |
| anteaya | dansmith: yes I dont' know moshele as well but I tried to ping before disabling | 18:37 |
| anteaya | so thanks | 18:37 |
| anteaya | someone will probably show up now | 18:37 |
| dansmith | moshele was in here yesterday asking for the goahead I think | 18:37 |
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| dansmith | oh, you disabled? | 18:37 |
| dansmith | cool | 18:37 |
| anteaya | yes, it was yesterday | 18:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Josh Gachnang proposed openstack/nova: Reschedules sometimes do not allocate networks https://review.openstack.org/177470 | 18:37 |
| dansmith | it amazes me that people turn on a system like this and them walk away | 18:38 |
| anteaya | yes | 18:38 |
| dansmith | I'd be watching it like a hawk for a week | 18:38 |
| anteaya | lennyb shows up to meetings with me | 18:38 |
| anteaya | I would have expected the same | 18:38 |
| anteaya | sigh | 18:38 |
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| dims | mriedem: lots of zed on nova jobs in zuul? | 18:54 |
| dims | s/zed/red/ | 18:54 |
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| dansmith | dims: things are clearly unhappy | 18:54 |
| dansmith | 661 in the check queue means sadness :) | 18:54 |
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| dims | yep :( | 18:55 |
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| mriedem | idk | 18:56 |
| mriedem | i'm putting out 10 other fires internally | 18:56 |
| mriedem | pbr is not my friend today | 18:57 |
| dims | y saw the pbr discussion | 18:57 |
| dims | ha | 18:57 |
| mriedem | b/c apparently i'm the closest person in this company that even remotely knows that pbr is even a thing that exists | 18:57 |
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| mriedem | sdague: my gdi meter could be through the roof today | 18:58 |
| dansmith | mriedem: you're a rarity there for a lot of reasons :) | 18:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eric Brown proposed openstack/nova: VMware: Don't raise exception on resize of 0 disk https://review.openstack.org/173170 | 18:58 |
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| _gryf | dansmith, hi, I have a question about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/169836 | 19:00 |
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| cfriesen | so are the zuul CI issues due to pbr? (might have missed an earlier discussion) | 19:01 |
| dansmith | _gryf: okay | 19:01 |
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| _gryf | how exactly should be rest calls presented in BPs? | 19:01 |
| lifeless | cfriesen: no | 19:01 |
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| lifeless | cfriesen: ibm's been running pbr 0.6 for ages, and has some tech debt around version numbers | 19:01 |
| dansmith | _gryf: well, answer my questions in the review and then I can suggest something I think | 19:02 |
| lifeless | cfriesen: which came to a head when 0.11 says 'oh yeah, what was a warning is now a mandate because pip 6 has forced our hand' | 19:02 |
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| dansmith | _gryf: but you can read other specs to see how they've been done in the past. I'm not sure what the convention, is, but also what you have is confusing | 19:02 |
| _gryf | dansmith, since what is there already is how he calls are presented in the documentation | 19:02 |
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| cfriesen | lifeless: so what's going on with zuul? I just got back this for instance: http://logs.openstack.org/27/169827/10/check/gate-nova-pep8/ea03b07/console.html | 19:03 |
| dansmith | _gryf: I've not seen any documentation that presents two blobs of json with no annotation :) | 19:03 |
| mriedem | cfriesen: remember the steps yesterday? | 19:03 |
| lifeless | cfriesen: looking | 19:04 |
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| cfriesen | mriedem: right. :) | 19:04 |
| lifeless | cfriesen: ERROR: InvocationError: '/home/jenkins/workspace/gate-nova-pep8/.tox/pep8/bin/flake8' | 19:04 |
| _gryf | dansmith, ok. I'm going to dig deeper looking for examples in nova-specs :) | 19:04 |
| dansmith | _gryf: okay, but really, if you'll answer my questions I can make actual suggestions | 19:05 |
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| lifeless | cfriesen: the lack of output from flake8 is disturbing ;) | 19:06 |
| _gryf | dansmith, :) | 19:06 |
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| cfriesen | lifeless: no kidding. I see 30 hits over the past week. | 19:07 |
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| mriedem | lifeless: cfriesen: might be easier to see why devstack failed | 19:07 |
| mriedem | http://logs.openstack.org/27/169827/10/check/check-tempest-dsvm-full/506c93a/ | 19:07 |
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| mriedem | http://logs.openstack.org/27/169827/10/check/check-tempest-dsvm-full/506c93a/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2015-05-05_17_19_53_232 | 19:08 |
| _gryf | dansmith, I will, since I'm going to provide the implementation :) | 19:08 |
| mriedem | http://logs.openstack.org/27/169827/10/check/check-tempest-dsvm-full/506c93a/logs/screen-s-object.txt.gz | 19:08 |
| mriedem | bingo | 19:08 |
| lifeless | ERROR: openstack 500 Internal Server Error: Failed to upload image 363bb9a6-090a-4049-bc33-ee97128eb33e (HTTP 500) | 19:09 |
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| mriedem | IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/xattr/__pycache__/_cffi__x282d9483x6ee6f75.c' | 19:09 |
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| lifeless | win | 19:09 |
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| lifeless | Have I mentioned I really am unhappy with the packaging story around cffi today :/ | 19:09 |
| mriedem | dims: cfriesen: is there a bug for this yet | 19:10 |
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| cfriesen | mriedem: don't see mention of cffi in elastic-recheck | 19:10 |
| dims | mriedem: not that i know of | 19:11 |
| cfriesen | mriedem: would that explain the pep8 failure too? | 19:12 |
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| mriedem | cfriesen: maybe | 19:12 |
| mriedem | if there is a bad xattr/cffi in the venv? | 19:12 |
| mriedem | not sure though honestly | 19:12 |
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| mriedem | i don't see any new releases of those packages today | 19:12 |
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| mriedem | logstash isn't finding much... | 19:14 |
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| mriedem | https://github.com/openstack/swift/commit/215cd551df8be066edafd2a1e16d0bd143ec214b | 19:15 |
| mriedem | hmm | 19:15 |
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| lifeless | did that just merge? | 19:16 |
| mriedem | yesterday https://github.com/openstack/swift/commit/51565ab2fd7a5390bf95f389abca70e8ab8b1089 | 19:16 |
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| lifeless | so, theory: xattr was bust this whole time and now we try to use it boom | 19:17 |
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| lifeless | in some context | 19:17 |
| lifeless | (obviously not all nodes, since it merged) | 19:17 |
| bauzas | scrolling back, sounds like our check pipeline is wedged, right ? | 19:17 |
| mriedem | https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/1451992 | 19:18 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1451992 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "swift-object-server fails to start in devstack which kills the gate" [Undecided,New] | 19:18 |
| mriedem | mestery: ^ bring that up later :) | 19:18 |
| mestery | mriedem: :) | 19:18 |
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| bauzas | mriedem: thanks | 19:19 |
| mriedem | here we go http://goo.gl/JT0nm8 | 19:19 |
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| lifeless | oh excellent http://morepypy.blogspot.ch/2015/05/cffi-10-beta-1.html | 19:21 |
| mriedem | revert https://review.openstack.org/#/c/180276/ | 19:21 |
| lifeless | won't helptoday,but soon | 19:21 |
| sdague | mriedem: we're hitting critical gdi levels.... | 19:21 |
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| mriedem | i don't know if she'll hold cap'n | 19:21 |
| andrewbogott | I’m running nova-network with flatdhcp. In another channel someone just suggested that routing from instances to floating IPs was fixed in some recent version with a default off config setting… | 19:22 |
| andrewbogott | Does that ring a bell with anyone? I would love to get that working. | 19:22 |
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| mriedem | e-r patch coming | 19:23 |
| andrewbogott | (Alternatively, telling me where the few remaining openstack-network people hang out would be useful :) ) | 19:23 |
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| jogo | andrewbogott: thanks | 19:27 |
| jogo | anteaya: thanks * | 19:27 |
| anteaya | jogo: welcome | 19:28 |
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| jogo | mriedem sdague: two steps forward, one step backwards | 19:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chhavi Agarwal proposed openstack/nova: Incorrect argument order passed to swap_volume https://review.openstack.org/180279 | 19:31 |
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| chhavi | mriedem:https://review.openstack.org/#/c/180279/1 | 19:36 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: ^ | 19:38 |
| dansmith | chhavi: that one is legit | 19:38 |
| dansmith | mriedem: way ahead of you | 19:38 |
| dansmith | damn | 19:38 |
| mriedem | haha | 19:38 |
| mriedem | yeah right! | 19:38 |
| dansmith | I'll backport | 19:38 |
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| mriedem | just tagged the bug | 19:38 |
| dansmith | thanks | 19:38 |
| dansmith | chhavi: mriedem: https://review.openstack.org/180287 | 19:40 |
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| dansmith | obviously that needs to suck less somehow | 19:40 |
| dansmith | anteaya: mellanox is still commenting, but I guess we're waiting for the token to timeout? | 19:40 |
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| anteaya | yes unfortunately | 19:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Abhishek Kekane proposed openstack/nova-specs: Improve performance of UnShelve API https://review.openstack.org/135387 | 19:41 |
| anteaya | we have a new gerrit feature close connection that will address disabled accounts with open connections in future | 19:41 |
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| dansmith | it's failing impressively fast | 19:41 |
| anteaya | :( | 19:41 |
| dansmith | cool | 19:41 |
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| chhavi | dansmith: its the same change which i did in the change-id i just sent for review 180279 | 19:42 |
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| dansmith | chhavi: that's the backport for stable/kilo | 19:42 |
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| alaski | dansmith: got all the tests passing | 19:44 |
| dansmith | alaski: nfw | 19:44 |
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| dansmith | alaski: I would accuse you of bragging, but you deserve it | 19:45 |
| alaski | I split out one change, and only slightly modified the remaining failing tests | 19:45 |
| dansmith | okay | 19:45 |
| alaski | git review is chugging along atm | 19:45 |
| dansmith | alaski: I owe you the alcoholic beverage of your choice* | 19:45 |
| dansmith | * subject to availability, some restrictions apply, not valid in all states | 19:45 |
| alaski | only available in continental US? | 19:46 |
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| cfriesen | alaski: good luck getting it past the CI today. :) | 19:46 |
| dansmith | alaski: only available in the vicinity of Portland, OR | 19:46 |
| jroll | idk, should be valid in vancouver too | 19:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Refactor tests that use compute's deprecated run_instance() method https://review.openstack.org/179950 | 19:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Switch to _set_instance_obj_error_state in build_and_run_instance https://review.openstack.org/180291 | 19:46 |
| alaski | dansmith: heh. I will get back out that way | 19:47 |
| dansmith | alaski: you're coming through PDX? | 19:47 |
| jroll | dansmith: I'll be in portland after the summit, I'll take alaski's drink on his behalf | 19:47 |
| alaski | dansmith: no, but eventually ... | 19:47 |
| jroll | and pass it along one day soon(tm) | 19:47 |
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| alaski | jroll: awefully kind of you | 19:47 |
| melwitt | I reviewed this patch for the swap_volume thing some days ago, I'm sorry I didn't bring it up in the channel. I put it on the kilo quick bug list but should have mentioned :( https://review.openstack.org/#/c/174307/ | 19:47 |
| dansmith | jroll: for fun? | 19:47 |
| jroll | dansmith: indeed, fri-mon | 19:48 |
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| dansmith | melwitt: bah | 19:48 |
| dansmith | jroll: ah, well, I won't be back until weds of the following week | 19:48 |
| jroll | heh | 19:48 |
| jroll | dang | 19:48 |
| dansmith | too bad, | 19:49 |
| dansmith | alaski can attest, I throw *wild* parties | 19:49 |
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| alaski | dansmith: hah. They at least have amazing views | 19:49 |
| dansmith | and you have to fight your other party-goers for food | 19:50 |
| jroll | you don't have clark b bring copious amounts of meat? | 19:50 |
| dansmith | clarkb has been invited | 19:51 |
| dansmith | but he avoids me whenever possible | 19:51 |
| mriedem | melwitt: we can probably abandon that now | 19:51 |
| mriedem | in favor of the other one which was approved | 19:51 |
| jroll | heh | 19:51 |
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| cfriesen | mriedem: a bit unfortunate for the guy who proposed the fix almost three weeks ago. | 19:52 |
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| mriedem | cfriesen: he should have spoken up i guess | 19:53 |
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| dansmith | yeah | 19:53 |
| dansmith | tagged the bug, etc | 19:53 |
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| melwitt | cfriesen: I feel responsible, I should have raised it on his behalf. lesson learned | 19:56 |
| dansmith | alaski: "tersely named" -- nice | 19:56 |
| dansmith | alaski: I was cursing that name yesterday, making all those edits | 19:56 |
| alaski | dansmith: I hate it, but you can blame me for that one | 19:57 |
| dansmith | alaski: it's fine | 19:57 |
| dansmith | yesterday, it was not fine | 19:57 |
| dansmith | but now it's fine :) | 19:57 |
| dansmith | alaski: py27: commands succeeded | 19:57 |
| dansmith | you rock | 19:57 |
| alaski | awesome | 19:57 |
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| bauzas | fyi, I'm just running over the exisiting new bugs and trying to see if they are low-hanging-fruits | 19:59 |
| bauzas | help welcome :) | 19:59 |
| bauzas | 5 mins per bug, 6 done, 21 left yeah | 20:00 |
| bauzas | all of that is related to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStack_Upstream_Training | 20:00 |
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| dansmith | alaski: you should -2 for that then right? | 20:12 |
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| alaski | dansmith: I need to queue up a string of reviews and submit them all at once :) | 20:13 |
| dansmith | alaski: hehe | 20:13 |
| alaski | dansmith: but I don't think it needs to be sticky, changing it to be xenserver specific would work | 20:13 |
| dansmith | alaski: I don't think we need to tag things as xen-specific | 20:14 |
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| dansmith | we have lots of stuff that's xen or libvirt specific (for better or worse) | 20:14 |
| alaski | true, I would probably -1 that too :) | 20:14 |
| dansmith | I totally didn't put together that this was *that* agent | 20:14 |
| dansmith | I figured this was something auth-related for some reason | 20:14 |
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| bauzas | ah mriedem is not there and I need an answer for https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1442006 :) | 20:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1442006 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "failed to reach SHELVED_OFFLOADED status within the required time" [Undecided,New] | 20:15 |
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| alaski | dansmith: yeah, I think that hook is still around somewhere. And that could certainly be marked as Rackspace specific since we seem to be the only ones using it | 20:16 |
| dansmith | yeah | 20:16 |
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| dansmith | so, unsurprisingly, when I remove object_compat from manager methods, a hundred unit tests break that have been passing dicts | 20:26 |
| dansmith | sigh | 20:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Josh Gachnang proposed openstack/nova: Reschedules sometimes do not allocate networks https://review.openstack.org/177470 | 20:50 |
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| haypo | hi. i sent many patches today and i got many failures. many devstack check jobs failed on "openstack image create" with a swiftclient error | 21:18 |
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| haypo | are these failures known? i'm checking http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/ -- https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1408814 looks unrelated | 21:20 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1408814 in Glance "Image could not be found after upload. The image may have been deleted during the upload." [Medium,Confirmed] | 21:20 |
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| dansmith | haypo: yes | 21:21 |
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| melwitt | haypo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/1451992 | 21:22 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1451992 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "swift-object-server fails to start in devstack which kills the gate" [Undecided,New] | 21:22 |
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| bauzas | mriedem told the e-r change is coming | 21:22 |
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| haypo | oh, i was surprised that screen-s-object.txt.gz only contained a traceback. i didn't understand that swift failed to start | 21:24 |
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| cfriesen | anyone got a better handle on that swift issue yet? someone posted on the bug report that it's probably not the xattr commit. | 21:27 |
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| dansmith | cfriesen: people in -infra and -qa have been going at it all day | 21:29 |
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| cfriesen | dansmith: ah, okay. was just looking at the bug report. | 21:30 |
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| bauzas | since we have *lots* of bugs related to the migrations not calling the scheduler, could some specs cores look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/179224/ ? | 21:46 |
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| bauzas | dansmith: alaski: ^ | 21:47 |
| bauzas | (sorry folks, you were the first in my list) | 21:47 |
| * dansmith is in compute rpc refactor hell | 21:47 | |
| bauzas | dansmith: eh, lemme know if you need help | 21:48 |
| dansmith | bauzas: willing to shoot me in the head? | 21:48 |
| bauzas | dansmith: mmm, we made a revolution war 200yrs ago, we prefer the guillotine | 21:48 |
| dansmith | oh you french and your aversion to guns :) | 21:49 |
| alaski | dansmith: since you refuse to clone there's no HA so that's not an option | 21:49 |
| dansmith | alaski: this is actually quite true, so +1 | 21:49 |
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| dansmith | I actually saw no guillotines when I was in .fr that I recall | 21:53 |
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| bauzas | dansmith: eh :) | 22:00 |
| bauzas | dansmith: guillotines are not so handy to carry in | 22:01 |
| dansmith | haha | 22:01 |
| dansmith | yeah, handheld guillotines.. there's a market opportunity | 22:01 |
| bauzas | for cutting saucisson, yeah | 22:01 |
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| dansmith | heh | 22:03 |
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| flwang1 | mriedem: ping | 22:09 |
| mriedem | flwang: i'm presenting at a meetup in about a half hour | 22:09 |
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| mikal | So, there's a lot of ironic bugs filed in nova | 22:10 |
| mikal | Just sayin' | 22:10 |
| * mikal constructively rants on openstack-dev about it | 22:10 | |
| mriedem | well there is an ironic driver | 22:11 |
| lifeless | mikal: there's a lot of bugs filed in nova ;) | 22:11 |
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| mikal | lifeless: the level of bugs for the ironic driver is disproprotionate with its deployment | 22:11 |
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| lifeless | mikal: ah, that I can't quibble with | 22:12 |
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| cfriesen | bauzas: would you imagine that the novaclient default would be to check if it's available? what about if the "check" flag isn't specified in the REST API? would we check by default? (which would be a behaviour change but useful) | 22:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Drop compute RPC 3.x support https://review.openstack.org/179951 | 22:23 |
| dansmith | alaski: ^ guh | 22:23 |
| dansmith | alaski: passing unit tests locally at least | 22:23 |
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| haypo | dansmith, melwitt : i commented https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/1451992, it looks like the issue is that DevStack builds a local wheel package for xattr, whereas building a wheel package for cffi extensions doesn't work right now | 22:24 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1451992 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "swift-object-server fails to start in devstack which kills the gate" [Undecided,New] | 22:24 |
| dansmith | haypo: yep, that came up like four hours ago in the proper channels I think | 22:25 |
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| dansmith | haypo: if you want to help, it's probably better done in -infra | 22:25 |
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| jroll | mikal: oh, people actually deploy the ironic driver? hm | 22:26 |
| * jroll looks into things | 22:26 | |
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| jroll | of course comstud filed the first one I click on | 22:27 |
| dansmith | who the hell is comstud/ | 22:27 |
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| jroll | mikal: this would knock one out real quicklike https://review.openstack.org/#/c/176395/ | 22:28 |
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| dansmith | gross | 22:28 |
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| jroll | heh | 22:29 |
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| jroll | dansmith: feel free to review that, too | 22:30 |
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| jroll | there's a backport somewhere | 22:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova-specs: Spec for Hyper-V generation 2 VMs https://review.openstack.org/103945 | 22:30 |
| bauzas | cfriesen: since it adds a new RPC call, I thought it was better to only check it if provided | 22:30 |
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| bauzas | cfriesen: but that can be opt-ish | 22:31 |
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| bauzas | cfriesen: in other words, I was preferring to default it to False | 22:32 |
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| flwang | mriedem: ok, thanks | 22:34 |
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| bauzas | mikal: I just made a run for the new bugs and some are also for vmware | 22:36 |
| bauzas | mikal: we now have 65 for vmware | 22:36 |
| bauzas | mikal: which is... erm... huge ? | 22:37 |
| dansmith | wait, are you saying....... the vmware driver is buggy? | 22:37 |
| flwang | dansmith: would you mind reviewing the nova volume backup patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/164494/ ? | 22:37 |
| dansmith | flwang: yes I would | 22:37 |
| bauzas | dansmith: that depends on if I need to formalize | 22:38 |
| dansmith | flwang: not even passing unit tests right? | 22:38 |
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| bauzas | dansmith: ie. do I need to call my lawyer ? | 22:38 |
| flwang | dansmith: i'm asking since i'm running into a weird issue | 22:38 |
| dansmith | bauzas: heh | 22:38 |
| dansmith | flwang: what weird issue? | 22:38 |
| flwang | there is a version related test cased failed | 22:38 |
| flwang | but it can pass if i use tox | 22:38 |
| flwang | but it will fail by run ./run_test.sh script | 22:39 |
| comstud | dansmith: jroll oh hai | 22:39 |
| comstud | who is me | 22:39 |
| dansmith | flwang: that's the pbr thing I think | 22:39 |
| dansmith | jroll: great, you invoked the comstud | 22:39 |
| jroll | comstud: hi! | 22:39 |
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| comstud | :) | 22:39 |
| flwang | i guess so, but i have no idea to fix it, since I think it's unrelated to my change | 22:39 |
| flwang | any idea? | 22:39 |
| jroll | dansmith: I'll keep doing it until you land https://review.openstack.org/#/c/176395/ because that's insane not to land | 22:39 |
| comstud | jroll: what's the bug I filed | 22:40 |
| dansmith | flwang: it's unrelated to your change | 22:40 |
| mikal | bauzas: huh, that's a lot of bugs. Totally worth a mail thread I think. | 22:40 |
| comstud | I want to reminisce | 22:40 |
| jroll | comstud: boot/delete races in clustered compute :) | 22:41 |
| comstud | ahyes | 22:41 |
| jroll | nothing you want to remember | 22:41 |
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| jroll | it's still a thing fwiw :) | 22:41 |
| comstud | well | 22:41 |
| comstud | i remember it | 22:41 |
| * jroll is going to make an etcd lock manager for n-cpu just cause | 22:41 | |
| comstud | because | 22:41 |
| bauzas | mikal: I don't know how much all of that is related, but the common denominator between those drivers is that both are the only ones having distributed computes | 22:41 |
| comstud | come on launchpad... U SLOW | 22:41 |
| bauzas | mikal: ie. multiple nodes per host | 22:42 |
| flwang | dansmith: so what should I do now? | 22:42 |
| comstud | jroll: i think someone landed my fix for it? | 22:42 |
| comstud | was looking at my reviews I still have up :) | 22:42 |
| comstud | I'm down to 2! | 22:42 |
| comstud | both for IPA | 22:42 |
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| flwang | dansmith: but though seems it's not related to my change, but it's only happening in the patch, so seems it's 'related' | 22:43 |
| jroll | comstud: heh, someone abandoned it because the driver landed in nova | 22:43 |
| dansmith | flwang: it's happening everywhere | 22:43 |
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| comstud | jroll: ah | 22:45 |
| jroll | comstud: you're welcome to pick up those IPA imaging patches :P | 22:45 |
| comstud | I wonder what rebasing would be like now :) | 22:45 |
| flwang | dansmith: really? https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova,n,z seems the other patches work fine | 22:45 |
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| comstud | Only been 6 months | 22:45 |
| flwang | am I missing anything? | 22:45 |
| dansmith | flwang: people are rechecking their patches | 22:45 |
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| jroll | heh | 22:46 |
| melwitt | flwang: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1450682 the fix got merged after the unit tests last ran on your patch | 22:47 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1450682 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "nova unit tests failing with pbr 0.11" [Critical,Fix committed] - Assigned to Joe Gordon (jogo) | 22:47 |
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| comstud | jroll: i'll have to re-learn python | 22:47 |
| flwang | melwitt: wow, cool, thanks a lot | 22:47 |
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| flwang | I'm going to recheck it | 22:47 |
| jroll | comstud: perl or go these days? | 22:48 |
| melwitt | flwang: that said, I think the gate is still broken | 22:48 |
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| comstud | jroll: yes | 22:48 |
| comstud | those aren't mutually exclusive | 22:48 |
| flwang | melwitt: still broken? | 22:48 |
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| jroll | comstud: fun | 22:48 |
| comstud | jroll: let's just redo * in Go? | 22:49 |
| jogo | melwitt: very broken | 22:49 |
| jogo | in new and exciting ways too | 22:49 |
| melwitt | flwang: there's https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/1451992 happening, so while you will get a pass on the unit tests part, your patch will fail the other stuff | 22:49 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1451992 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "swift-object-server fails to start in devstack which kills the gate" [Undecided,New] | 22:49 |
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| flwang | melwitt: ah, got it. thanks for the clarification | 22:49 |
| dansmith | flwang: left you lots of comments to keep you busy until the RPC patch merges :) | 22:49 |
| dansmith | comstud: seriously? perl? | 22:50 |
| flwang | dansmith: lol, cheers man | 22:50 |
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| dansmith | flwang: any time! | 22:50 |
| jogo | comstud: o/ | 22:50 |
| jogo | perl haha | 22:50 |
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| comstud | jogo: heya :) | 22:51 |
| comstud | ya :-/ | 22:51 |
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| jogo | comstud: is the packaging system at least more sane then python ? | 22:51 |
| * dansmith tries to think of things he'd like to do less than perl | 22:51 | |
| jroll | comstud: yes please | 22:51 |
| comstud | jogo: f no. let's just say that it's "different" | 22:51 |
| jogo | comstud: lol | 22:51 |
| comstud | i dunno, some others here might argue it's better | 22:52 |
| dansmith | heh | 22:52 |
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| comstud | but tbh... we're rolling code out to production much like we did at rackspace | 22:52 |
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| comstud | and like... cpan vs pypi? meh | 22:52 |
| dansmith | lol cpan | 22:52 |
| comstud | it's just different. | 22:52 |
| jroll | comstud: I'm so sorry | 22:53 |
| comstud | <3 | 22:53 |
| jroll | modern software at least? | 22:53 |
| jroll | :P | 22:53 |
| comstud | we're at least using perl in ways that make it more interesting | 22:53 |
| jroll | I meant I'm sorry about deploy mechanism, to be clear | 22:53 |
| dansmith | flwang: seriously if you rebase on top of that patch everything will be much easier for you, I think | 22:53 |
| comstud | very OO...objects, roles | 22:53 |
| dansmith | flwang: it'll make more sense too | 22:53 |
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| comstud | jroll: yeah | 22:54 |
| jogo | comstud: I hear perl6 is the python3 of perl land | 22:54 |
| dansmith | heh | 22:54 |
| comstud | yeah basically | 22:54 |
| comstud | that's what I hear too | 22:54 |
| comstud | :) | 22:54 |
| dansmith | except fewer people want it? | 22:54 |
| jogo | do you use it? | 22:54 |
| comstud | lol | 22:54 |
| flwang | dansmith: rebase on which patch? | 22:54 |
| comstud | no | 22:54 |
| dansmith | so like, two people | 22:54 |
| comstud | we're on 5 | 22:54 |
| dansmith | flwang: left a link in my comments | 22:54 |
| comstud | an ancient version at that | 22:54 |
| comstud | although not for much longer | 22:54 |
| flwang | dansmith: ok, cool | 22:54 |
| comstud | i don't think | 22:54 |
| flwang | dansmith: you're always the superman like mriedem | 22:55 |
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| dansmith | flwang: I'm just mriedem's sidekick at most | 22:55 |
| comstud | dansmith: so that's what happened after we broke up | 22:56 |
| dansmith | comstud: yeah, it was like a week of ice cream and cartoons in my jammies before I was like "eff it, comstud ain't comin back and I need a new sugar daddy" | 22:56 |
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| comstud | lol | 22:56 |
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| comstud | i need to figure out a patch for L | 22:57 |
| dansmith | to keep your dignity? I mean, "ATC status" of course | 22:57 |
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| comstud | yeah, those are 2 different things | 22:57 |
| dansmith | you could probably swing "permanent ATC emeritus" status | 22:58 |
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| comstud | heheh | 23:00 |
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| comstud | I'm all about permanent nova core | 23:01 |
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| * comstud slips some money to the TC via russellb | 23:03 | |
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| * comstud slips some money to dansmith for the ice cream costs. | 23:04 | |
| dansmith | comstud: startup life must be treating you well if you've got all this money to burn :) | 23:04 |
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| comstud | you know my salary requirements | 23:04 |
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| dansmith | yes, yes, I do :) | 23:05 |
| comstud | i can buy you lots of ice cream | 23:05 |
| dansmith | hehe | 23:05 |
| comstud | 3 scoops | 23:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Refactor tests that use compute's deprecated run_instance() method https://review.openstack.org/179950 | 23:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Drop compute RPC 3.x support https://review.openstack.org/179951 | 23:21 |
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