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| sc68cal | armax: killing me with these "just before the end of work PST" e-mails about serious things | 02:26 |
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| Sam-I-Am | sc68cal: you must be new here | 02:27 |
| Sam-I-Am | the solution is just working 24/7 | 02:27 |
| Sam-I-Am | then time zones dont matter | 02:27 |
| Sam-I-Am | i have an irc implant in my brain | 02:27 |
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| sc68cal | Sam-I-Am: I have it on my wrist. https://twitter.com/sc68cal/status/620736988438757376 | 02:29 |
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| Sam-I-Am | sc68cal: wow, you're worse than i am | 02:30 |
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| sc68cal | Sam-I-Am: it has a quiet period - 9PM EST to 9AM EST | 02:30 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i think i'm in competition with armax or ihar for non-sleeping | 02:31 |
| sc68cal | yeah ihar was up way late today - I saw him pushing patches at like 2pm EST | 02:31 |
| sc68cal | which is probably like 4am his time | 02:31 |
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| Sam-I-Am | why sleep when you can patch | 02:31 |
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| sc68cal | yeah he pushed a patch at [17:45] | 02:32 |
| sc68cal | EST | 02:32 |
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| Sam-I-Am | bleh | 02:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | i'm still working on things | 02:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | always something in the queue | 02:35 |
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| Sam-I-Am | sc68cal: looks like you saw russellb's update to the ovn doc spec? | 02:36 |
| sc68cal | Sam-I-Am: yeah | 02:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | theres a networking guide meeting tomorrow. probably needs to be brought up. | 02:36 |
| sc68cal | Sam-I-Am: but for some reason it ate my comment .. | 02:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | sc68cal: did you comment on an old patchset? | 02:36 |
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| sc68cal | Sam-I-Am: nope - maybe I wrote a big screed then forgot to hit save | 02:40 |
| sc68cal | Sam-I-Am: then closed the browser. Oh well. Less crap people have to read ;) | 02:40 |
| sc68cal | Sam-I-Am: I put a shorter one in this time :) | 02:40 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i see it | 02:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | i'm trying to install openstack on debian | 02:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | because i have no life | 02:41 |
| sc68cal | lol | 02:41 |
| sc68cal | on WEEZY? | 02:41 |
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| Sam-I-Am | jessie | 02:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | testing out the updates to the install guide | 02:41 |
| sc68cal | been seeing bug reports in devstack about how we broke weezy because we use the --may-exist flag of ovs-vsctl | 02:41 |
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| sc68cal | https://bugs.launchpad.net/devstack/+bug/1520338 | 02:41 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1520338 in devstack "ovs-vsctl commands use --may-exist which is not support by version 1.4.2" [Undecided,New] | 02:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | lolololol 1.4.2 | 02:42 |
| sc68cal | i know! | 02:42 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i lol anything much older than 2.4 | 02:42 |
| sc68cal | ovs 2.4? | 02:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah | 02:42 |
| sc68cal | damn 2.4 must be new as hell | 02:42 |
| sc68cal | I remember 2.0 being a BFD | 02:42 |
| sc68cal | since it wouldn't segfault anymore :) | 02:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | 2.4 is in the cloud archive repo for ubuntu 14.04 | 02:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | centos 7 has 2.4 too | 02:44 |
| sc68cal | yeah but doesn't cloud archive make an attempt to backport reasonably new packages backward | 02:44 |
| sc68cal | ? | 02:44 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yeah, as does the rdo repo | 02:44 |
| sc68cal | I figure RHEL will have 2.4 when I retire | 02:44 |
| Sam-I-Am | they didnt used to do ovs, but started in the last 2 releases or so because the old versions were causing too many problems | 02:44 |
| Sam-I-Am | another topic for the net guide meeting - versioning the guide | 02:44 |
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| Sam-I-Am | CD has become sort of a problem | 02:46 |
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| X123 | heh | 02:55 |
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| Sam-I-Am | X123: hey you should join the contributors for the net guide | 02:55 |
| X123 | ya? | 02:55 |
| X123 | how :D | 02:55 |
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| Sam-I-Am | clone the openstack-manuals repo, go into network guide source dir, see whats missing, add content. | 02:57 |
| X123 | hmmm | 02:58 |
| X123 | i shall take a look... | 02:58 |
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| Sam-I-Am | X123: its not that scary | 03:00 |
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| Sam-I-Am | X123: we really need people to contribute virtual networking basics | 03:00 |
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| openstack | bug 1518921 in neutron "Functional tests failing inside _test_restart_service_on_sighup with "Timed out waiting for file /tmp/XXX/YYY/test_server.tmp to be created and its size become equal to ZZZ"" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1518921 - Assigned to Hong Hui Xiao (xiaohhui) | 03:42 |
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| vikram_ | I am getting an error while running pep8 | 07:37 |
| vikram_ | Problem importing module classes.py: cannot import name InferenceContext | 07:37 |
| vikram_ | can someone help? | 07:37 |
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| iwamoto | vikram_: is that related to recent pep8/pylint changes? | 07:40 |
| vikram_ | iwamoto: i believe so | 07:41 |
| vikram_ | pip list | grep 'pylint\|astroid' | 07:41 |
| vikram_ | astroid (1.3.8) | 07:41 |
| vikram_ | pylint (1.4.4) | 07:41 |
| vikram_ | https://bitbucket.org/logilab/pylint/issues/660/python35-problem-importing-module | 07:41 |
| vikram_ | say's astroid version should be 1.4.0.. trying that now | 07:41 |
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| reedip | yamamoto: ping | 07:56 |
| yamamoto | reedip: pong | 07:57 |
| reedip | yamamoto: Hi | 07:57 |
| yamamoto | reedip: hi | 07:57 |
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| reedip | yamamoto: with py34, I am facing an issue with ostestr | 07:57 |
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| reedip | yamamoto: when executed as ostestr --regex , it is stating incovation error | 07:57 |
| reedip | yamamoto: In TaaS | 07:58 |
| reedip | yamamoto : This is true only for py34 not for py27 | 07:58 |
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| reedip | yamamoto: wanted to know if you are also facing such an issue when 'tox'ing TaaS? | 07:58 |
| yamamoto | isn't it what jenkins does? | 07:58 |
| yamamoto | tox -e py34 ? | 07:59 |
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| reedip | yamamoto: Yes, but in TaaS, the tox.ini has the following command | 07:59 |
| reedip | commands = ostestr --regex '{posargs}' | 08:00 |
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| reedip | And thats where it fails, atleast in the Local tests. | 08:00 |
| reedip | So wanted to know if you are also facing a similar issue? | 08:01 |
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| yamamoto | let me try | 08:02 |
| reedip | ok | 08:02 |
| yamamoto | "tox -e py34" worked for me | 08:03 |
| yamamoto | what error did you see? | 08:03 |
| reedip | Invocation error | 08:03 |
| yamamoto | nothing shown before that? | 08:03 |
| reedip | /opt/stack/taas/.tox/py34/bin/ostestr --regex | 08:04 |
| reedip | nope | 08:04 |
| reedip | Anyways, thanks.. Seems to be a local environment issue :) | 08:04 |
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| reedip | atleast all other code is approved by Jenkins :) | 08:04 |
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| vikram_ | iwamoto: no luck ;( | 08:41 |
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| ihrachys | ajo: what was the nick name for David who is working on DSCP? | 08:55 |
| vikram_ | yamamoto: ping | 08:55 |
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| yamamoto | vikram_: pong | 08:56 |
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| vikram_ | yamamoto: i am facing some issues with pep8 | 08:56 |
| vikram_ | yamamoto: on the latest master | 08:56 |
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| vikram_ | Problem importing module classes.py: cannot import name InferenceContext | 08:56 |
| openstackgerrit | ZhaoBo proposed openstack/neutron: Add timestamp for neutron core resources https://review.openstack.org/213586 | 08:56 |
| vikram_ | did you face such issue? | 08:56 |
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| yamamoto | i haven't seen it | 08:57 |
| amotoki | garyk: ping | 08:57 |
| vikram_ | yamamoto: ohhh | 08:57 |
| vikram_ | yamamoto: let me check my env | 08:57 |
| yamamoto | vikram_: does it happen with "tox -e pep8" ? | 08:58 |
| vikram_ | yamamoto: yes | 08:58 |
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| vikram_ | yamamoto: Am I doing something wrong? | 08:59 |
| yamamoto | vikram_: let me try | 08:59 |
| vikram_ | yamamoto: Thanks | 09:00 |
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| amotoki | yamamoto: question on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/251268/ does midonet actually support sg rule update? | 09:00 |
| yamamoto | amotoki: no | 09:00 |
| amotoki | yamamoto: I wonder we need a releasenote per gary's comment. | 09:00 |
| amotoki | yamamoto: we actually don't support sg rule update because we don't have update_sg_rule method, so I think it is just a bug in the attr map definition. | 09:01 |
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| yamamoto | amotoki: for possible out-of-tree plugin which implements update of "direction"? | 09:01 |
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| amotoki | yamamoto: yes, it's possible. | 09:02 |
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| yamamoto | amotoki: i don't think this can be the biggest plugin incompatiblity we will have for the next release. :-) | 09:03 |
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| yamamoto | i'll comment on the review | 09:04 |
| amotoki | yamamoto: yeah. in addition, there is no PUT for sg rule in http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref-networking-v2-ext.html | 09:04 |
| amotoki | yamamoto: no DocImpact :-) | 09:04 |
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| diltram | Hi all | 09:11 |
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| yamamoto | vikram_: i got the same message. followed by a ton of "Undefined variable" messages. | 09:11 |
| vikram_ | yamamoto: Thank God I am not alone ;) | 09:12 |
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| garyk1 | amotoki: hi, whats up | 09:13 |
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| amotoki | garyk1: I would like to discuss about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/251268/ as yamamoto and I discussed above. | 09:14 |
| amotoki | garyk1: honestly speaking, the impact would be small because this is the only field we allow the update | 09:14 |
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| garyk1 | amotoki: ok, make sense. | 09:15 |
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| garyk1 | i'll approve. thanks! | 09:15 |
| amotoki | garyk1: thanks. | 09:15 |
| yamamoto | garyk1: thanks | 09:16 |
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| vikram_ | yamamoto: Any luck, getting that running? | 09:25 |
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| vikram_ | amotoki: ping | 09:41 |
| amotoki | vikram_: pong | 09:41 |
| vikram_ | amotoki: can you help me with tox error | 09:41 |
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| vikram_ | amotoki: tox -e pep8 | 09:42 |
| vikram_ | amotoki: latest master code is giving tons of error for that | 09:42 |
| amotoki | vikram_: let me try | 09:42 |
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| ihrachys | vikram_: you should use pep8-constraints :) | 09:43 |
| yamamoto | vikram_: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/252011/ | 09:43 |
| vikram_ | ihrachys: ooppss | 09:43 |
| amotoki | in pep8-constraints we have more strict versions :) | 09:44 |
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| amotoki | vikram_: the reason of failures is astroid >= 1.4 and pylint combination. | 09:45 |
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| vikram_ | yamamoto, amotoki, ihrachys: thanks. Let me tyr | 09:46 |
| ajo | jlibosva , so I guess the ARP_SPOOF_TABLE in our ovs agent | 09:46 |
| ajo | is to do what the ebtables filter introduced, but without ebtables | 09:46 |
| ajo | I guess :) | 09:46 |
| jlibosva | got it | 09:47 |
| ajo | I need to check | 09:47 |
| ihrachys | ajo: they also do ebtables thing in addition to flows. currently. | 09:47 |
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| ajo | ihrachys , we do? | 09:47 |
| * ajo is outdated :( | 09:47 | |
| ihrachys | see install_arp_spoofing_protection we call | 09:47 |
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| jlibosva | ihrachys: isn't that dependent on the bridge you use? | 09:48 |
| jlibosva | ihrachys: or you mean we use ebtables for LB-agent? | 09:48 |
| ihrachys | jlibosva: no I mean we call to ebtables from OVS agent | 09:48 |
| ihrachys | in addition to flows for ARP table | 09:49 |
| ihrachys | oh man, sorry | 09:50 |
| * jlibosva not see | 09:50 | |
| ihrachys | my ctags-fu killed me | 09:50 |
| ihrachys | :) | 09:50 |
| ihrachys | looked at wrong file | 09:50 |
| ihrachys | that makes more sense | 09:50 |
| jlibosva | so it's of for ovs and ebtables for lb, right? | 09:51 |
| vikram_ | yamamoto, amotoki, ihrachys: thanks. It worked! | 09:51 |
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| ihrachys | jlibosva: yes | 09:54 |
| ajo | oh, so we use ebtables too | 09:54 |
| ajo | what a nice salad | 09:54 |
| ajo | kevinbenton , do you know why do we use ebtables for the arp spoof filter instead of flows? | 09:55 |
| ajo | yamamoto ^ | 09:55 |
| jlibosva | ajo: read the above again :) | 09:55 |
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| ihrachys | jlibosva: I believe your problem with arp spoofing does not affect qos case because we don't set those matching rules for ARP. | 09:55 |
| ajo | ahh | 09:56 |
| ihrachys | ajo: no, we don't use ebtables in ovs | 09:56 |
| ajo | ctags cheated me too ? | 09:56 |
| ajo | it seems ctags also cheated me | 09:56 |
| ihrachys | ajo: I was crazy when I said so | 09:56 |
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| ihrachys | ajo: yeah, you should always use g before Ctrl+] to explicitly select the file | 09:56 |
| * jlibosva whispers ropevim | 09:57 | |
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| ihrachys | jlibosva: haven't seen you using it? | 09:57 |
| ajo | ropevim? :) | 09:57 |
| ajo | hmm, I think I tried once without success | 09:58 |
| ajo | may be you could teach us jlibosva :) | 09:58 |
| jlibosva | ihrachys: how come? you were here couple of minutes ago | 09:58 |
| jlibosva | 1) install ropevim | 09:58 |
| jlibosva | 2) | 09:58 |
| jlibosva | 3) PROFIT | 09:58 |
| ajo | LOL | 09:58 |
| ihrachys | jlibosva: meh. then your rope-fu did not impress me at all | 09:59 |
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| jlibosva | ihrachys: likely, yes. When you were here it didn't find definition so I had to use grep D: | 09:59 |
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| jlibosva | but sometimes, when you're lucky, it works | 09:59 |
| ihrachys | I see :) I will need to see the magic happening first before I opt-in :D | 10:00 |
| bzhao | kevinbenton:ping | 10:00 |
| * ajo starts to consider pycharm sometimes... | 10:00 | |
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| ajo | if it only worked in a remote ssh... XD | 10:00 |
| ihrachys | lucky... doesn't sound like a good definition for yours truly | 10:00 |
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| ajo | ctags also works when you're lucky | 10:00 |
| jlibosva | that's why I'm forced to use grep so much | 10:00 |
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| ihrachys | ajo: never failed me. | 10:00 |
| ajo | C+] | 10:00 |
| ajo | ihrachys : it failed me today | 10:01 |
| ajo | :D | 10:01 |
| ihrachys | you're lucky. | 10:01 |
| ajo | sent me to linuxbridge instead of ovs | 10:01 |
| ihrachys | see the difference? with rope, you are lucky when it works; with ctags, vice versa | 10:01 |
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| jlibosva | see? ropevim sent me nowhere. better to have no data then fake data | 10:01 |
| ihrachys | ajo: that's your fault! not ctags | 10:01 |
| ajo | ihrachys : is there any way to get a list of candidates instead of jumping straight into one? | 10:01 |
| ajo | ihrachys : likely, yes, how do I do it right then? | 10:01 |
| ajo | :) | 10:01 |
| ihrachys | ajo: I already said to you: you first press g before Ctrl+] | 10:01 |
| jlibosva | ajo: don't fall to the pycharm side | 10:02 |
| ajo | you did? :) | 10:02 |
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| ihrachys | ajo: "[10:56:53] <ihrachys>ajo: yeah, you should always use g before Ctrl+] to explicitly select the file" | 10:02 |
| ajo | I don't like the shortcuts for moving across tabs and files in pycharm | 10:02 |
| ihrachys | this chat is so boring. | 10:03 |
| ajo | and I don't have vim-ariline | 10:03 |
| ihrachys | we need someone from emacs side | 10:03 |
| ajo | airline | 10:03 |
| ajo | :) | 10:03 |
| ajo | yeah | 10:03 |
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| ajo | ihrachys : marun was on the emacs side | 10:03 |
| ajo | :) | 10:03 |
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| ihrachys | here you go: first step to leave | 10:04 |
| ihrachys | I will adopt emacs when it comes my time | 10:04 |
| ajo | I'm sure it was emacs fault :) | 10:04 |
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| ajo | evil software | 10:05 |
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| ajo | full of parenthesis inside (((((stuff (stuff (oh more stuff) yikes))) | 10:05 |
| bzhao | kevinbenton:ping , hi kevin, are you there? ;-) | 10:05 |
| ajo | you see ^? | 10:05 |
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| ajo | jlibosva | 10:06 |
| ajo | talking of the ovs-firewall | 10:06 |
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| ajo | shall we introduce/use abstactions like in: neutron/plugins/ml2/drivers/openvswitch/agent/openflow/{native/ovs_ofctl} ? | 10:06 |
| ihrachys | ajo: elisp: failure: missing parenthesis | 10:06 |
| ajo | ihrachys :'( | 10:06 |
| ajo | rm -rf `which elisp` | 10:07 |
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| ihrachys | ajo: I was also talking crazy today to jlibosva about sec groups to become l2 extensions | 10:07 |
| jlibosva | ajo: pardon me? | 10:07 |
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| jlibosva | ajo: I don't get the parenthesis and ovs relation | 10:08 |
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| ihrachys | jlibosva: because there is no relation | 10:09 |
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| ogzy | mohankumar, ping | 10:18 |
| ogzy | mohankumar, i had tried sfc installation it failed again :) | 10:18 |
| ogzy | mohankumar, i mailed the logs to you | 10:19 |
| vikram_ | ogzy: let's discuss about your issue over the IRC today | 10:21 |
| vikram_ | ogzy: I feel most of the people are facing issues | 10:21 |
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| ajo | ihrachys : about secgroups, I agree, eventually that should happen :) | 10:23 |
| ihrachys | ajo: eventually, we will drop those agents and will embrace OVN ;) | 10:23 |
| ihrachys | and finally neutron core will become pure API thing :D | 10:24 |
| ajo | ihrachys : eventually :) | 10:24 |
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| vikasc | tfukushima, Hi | 10:29 |
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| SurajD | In devstack how can I use LinuxBridge instead of OVS in an all-in-one single machine setup? What changes do I have to make in local.conf file? | 10:44 |
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| ihrachys | SurajD: that's best we have so far https://github.com/openstack-infra/project-config/blob/master/jenkins/jobs/neutron.yaml#L340 | 10:49 |
| ihrachys | though may not work, since the job is not voting in gate :) | 10:49 |
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| SurajD | ihrachys, okay let me try | 10:50 |
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| SurajD | ihrachys, thanks for taking time | 10:50 |
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| amotoki | I wonder what status should be used when a fix was made in other projects (like g-r). Fix Released? Won't Fix? Invalid? | 11:53 |
| amotoki | I am looking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-neutronclient/+bug/1482758 | 11:53 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1482758 in python-neutronclient "grenade: swift-proxy-server fails to start in juno due to python-neutronclient 2.3.12 caps" [Critical,Confirmed] | 11:53 |
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| ihrachys | amotoki: I presume fix released. | 12:06 |
| ihrachys | some bugs never touch neutron repos, but still we track them in project context. | 12:06 |
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| amotoki | ihrachys: thanks. it makes sense to me too. | 12:08 |
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| amotoki | i am now cleaning up client bugs. | 12:09 |
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| mohankumar | ogzy , ping | 12:21 |
| ogzy | mohankumar, pong | 12:22 |
| ogzy | mohankumar, did you see my mail? | 12:22 |
| mohankumar | yeah , i saw it late | 12:22 |
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| pcarver | ihrachys: can you help me understand Neutron dependency described in http://docs.openstack.org/developer/neutron/devref/sub_project_guidelines.html ? I want to make sure networking-sfc is setup correctly. | 12:33 |
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| anilvenkata | pavel_bondar: can u please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/241227 ? | 12:34 |
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| ihrachys | pcarver: yeah. what's about it? basically -e git:/// does not belong to requirements.txt file | 12:40 |
| ihrachys | pcarver: you can have it in test-requirements.txt (I guess) or in tox.ini (that's for sure) | 12:40 |
| pcarver | ihrachys: About the tox.ini part, do I need to add a line for Neutron after line 11: https://github.com/openstack/networking-sfc/blob/master/tox.ini#L11 | 12:41 |
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| ihrachys | ajo: that flow reset opens a lot of question on how we order flows for misc features. | 12:41 |
| ihrachys | pcarver: you can. but I see you use tox_install.sh script, I suspect it's already there? | 12:41 |
| ihrachys | pcarver: right https://github.com/openstack/networking-sfc/blob/master/tools/tox_install.sh#L37 | 12:42 |
| ihrachys | pcarver: so you are done for now :) | 12:42 |
| pcarver | ok, good thanks | 12:42 |
| ihrachys | pcarver: there may be some infra changes that subprojects will need to embrace later in how we install neutron in gate and locally, but for now you are good. | 12:42 |
| ihrachys | we'll notify projects for suggested changes if we get there for core repos. which may never occur :) | 12:43 |
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| pcarver | ihrachys: regarding the sentence in the doc about indicating the dependency to packagers, is that a comment in requirements.txt? Because Neutron is mentioned in a comment https://github.com/openstack/networking-sfc/blob/master/requirements.txt#L52 | 12:44 |
| pcarver | or should I just get rid of the comments at the end of requirements.txt | 12:44 |
| ihrachys | pcarver: you can actually have smth like neutron>=7.0.0 in your requirements.txt, not commented out | 12:45 |
| ihrachys | pcarver: it won't be able to fetch it from pypi, but since we do it with tox_install.sh, it should just take and use it | 12:46 |
| ihrachys | pcarver: but really, everyone knows that your project depends on neutron, so I would not care too much | 12:46 |
| pcarver | ihrachys: oh, I see, so in a non -e line if necessary. And the commented out lines that are currently there are completely extraneous. | 12:46 |
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| ihrachys | pcarver: yeah. they may be cleaned up, no big reason to keep it. but they are also ok to keep. not a priority for you I guess. | 12:47 |
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| pcarver | ihrachys: ok, thanks. Just wanted to make sure we were following the guidelines correctly. | 12:48 |
| ihrachys | pcarver: that's nice of you to check it | 12:48 |
| ihrachys | we need more projects that would play by rules | 12:48 |
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| ihrachys | pcarver: I see you depend on oslo.versionedobjects. are you really using the library for SFC? | 12:49 |
| ihrachys | if so, cool. but if not, you don't need to have the dep in your requirements.txt (and other deps that are not used in the tree) | 12:49 |
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| pcarver | ihrachys: I'm not sure, but it was added recently. I haven't written any of the code, I'm trying to review it, but the approach that was taken is a bit unweildy. It wasn't really developed incrementally. | 12:50 |
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| pc_m | ihrachys: hi | 12:52 |
| pcarver | ihrachys: There are a bunch of unmerged patches and the amount of code is somewhere north of 6000 lines. It would have been better if it had been developed incrementally with Gerrit reviews along the way. | 12:52 |
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| ihrachys | pcarver: agreed. that opens a question of how we embrace such projects as part of neutron while little OpenStack practices are applied. | 12:52 |
| ihrachys | pcarver: but that's the stadium discussion that is ongoing on the mailing list that should clarify it | 12:53 |
| pcarver | ihrachys: but what's done is done, I think what we need to do now is get a working based merged and then determine if there's a need to refactor | 12:53 |
| ihrachys | pc_m: hi | 12:53 |
| pc_m | ihrachys: I looked at latest pep8-constraints patch for VPN and it seems correct now. | 12:53 |
| pc_m | ihrachys: What was the td;lr ? | 12:53 |
| ihrachys | pc_m: yeah, I need to do infra work though. | 12:53 |
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| ihrachys | pc_m: vpnaas one should be ok, but we need jobs set before we merge it so that we validate it works. | 12:53 |
| pcarver | ihrachys: I think the issue was that folks at Huawei were well along the way to having a working implementation internally before the stadium stuff really took shape. | 12:53 |
| ihrachys | pc_m: I will get back to it in a week or so after I get back from PTO | 12:54 |
| pc_m | ihrachys: So job needs to set UPPER_CONSTRAINTS_FILE? | 12:54 |
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| ihrachys | pcarver: I mean, neutron gives a 'go' for projects without proved standards followed or even code available, just because we have this stadium thing. previously, projects were growing inside stackforge namespace and then could TRY to get thru the embracement process and get under the official roof. | 12:55 |
| ihrachys | pc_m: yes, actually all jobs already do it | 12:56 |
| openstackgerrit | abregman proposed openstack/neutron: Skip keepalived_respawns test https://review.openstack.org/251693 | 12:56 |
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| pc_m | ihrachys: What was fixed to resolve the issue with package versions? | 12:57 |
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| pcarver | ihrachys: I don't know for certain, but I think the Huawei folks had code they were looking to open source and the stadium gave them a means to do it, but we just have a startup issue of how to get an bunch of existing code into the OpenStack model without wasting a lot of time throwing it out and starting over from scratch. | 12:58 |
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| pcarver | ihrachys: but the intent is to follow the OpenStack model | 12:58 |
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| ihrachys | pc_m: it seemed that it was transient, we could not reproduce it later. | 13:00 |
| openstackgerrit | abregman proposed openstack/neutron: Skip keepalived_respawns test https://review.openstack.org/251693 | 13:00 |
| pc_m | ihrachys: odd. | 13:01 |
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| pc_m | ihrachys: What's needed in infra? Do you want me to try to work on it while you are on PTO? | 13:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Hirofumi Ichihara proposed openstack/neutron: Add availability_zone support for router https://review.openstack.org/224418 | 13:02 |
| ihrachys | pc_m: we need patches to add non-voting constraints jobs into *aas master gates, and make my constraint patches to Depends-On corresponding infra patches. we also need to update fwaas and lbaas constraints patches to do the same thing as I have for vpnaas. | 13:03 |
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| ihrachys | pc_m: if you can do some of it, I would be very glad. | 13:03 |
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| pc_m | ihrachys: I'll see what I can do. When are you going on PTO and when back? | 13:04 |
| ihrachys | pc_m: once we have all 6 patches (3 infra and 3 aas), we merge them, check they work; switch voting for constraints, disable non-constrained; | 13:04 |
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| ihrachys | pc_m: once we are there, we may want to backport the *aas patches to liberty; and enable the jobs for the branch | 13:05 |
| ihrachys | pc_m: starting tomorrow, till +week | 13:05 |
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| pc_m | ihrachys: OK. I think I have some time this week to work on it, so I'll see how far I get. | 13:06 |
| ihrachys | pc_m: thanks | 13:06 |
| ihrachys | I bless you to tinker with it! :D | 13:06 |
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| pc_m | ihrachys: np. I've been through that already with adding VPN jobs. | 13:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | abregman proposed openstack/neutron: Skip keepalived_respawns test https://review.openstack.org/251693 | 13:22 |
| ihrachys | pc_m: yeah, you hit all the walls with it, should know a lot about how to make it smooth | 13:22 |
| ihrachys | abregman|confere: you don't cover all comments in ^ | 13:23 |
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| abregman|confere | ihrachys: oops, missed the upper one. thanks! | 13:25 |
| openstackgerrit | abregman proposed openstack/neutron: Skip keepalived_respawns test https://review.openstack.org/251693 | 13:26 |
| abregman|confere | connectivity here is so slow | 13:26 |
| ihrachys | abregman|confere: more comments in prev PS | 13:27 |
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| abregman|confere | ihrachys: the error happens only for 1.12.1? | 13:30 |
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| moshele | itzikb: hi | 13:34 |
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| itzikb | beagles: hi, regarding SR-IOV macvtap https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/plugins/ml2/drivers/mech_sriov/agent/eswitch_manager.py#L85-L86 | 13:45 |
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| beagles | itzikb, hi | 13:46 |
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| itzikb | beagles: hi please see https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/plugins/ml2/drivers/mech_sriov/agent/eswitch_manager.py#L85-L86 | 13:46 |
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| beagles | itzikb, okay looking | 13:47 |
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| moshele | beagles: macvtap is broken only on rhel | 13:48 |
| regXboi | amuller: ping - looking at the pipelines, it looks like somebody found the problem? | 13:48 |
| amuller | regXboi: Not that I know | 13:49 |
| regXboi | amuller: hmm | 13:49 |
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| regXboi | amuller: let me look at logstash and see what I see | 13:49 |
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| moshele | beagles: the problem is that the sriov-agnet check if vf assigned by upper_macvtap symbolic link which exist on Ubuntu but not on rhel | 13:50 |
| beagles | moshele, itzikb, oic | 13:50 |
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| moshele | beagles: do you know standard way to check if vf is assigned for macvtap? | 13:51 |
| beagles | moshele, itzikb do we know what aspect of ubuntu is creating the symbolic link | 13:51 |
| beagles | moshele, not yet I don't ... but we're going to find out :) | 13:51 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mornings | 13:52 |
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| itzikb | beagles: moshele: Don't remember about this upper_macvtap | 13:53 |
| moshele | beagles: I was think the kernel, because Ubuntu 14.04 has 3.13 and rhel 7 is 3.10 but I am not sure | 13:53 |
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| regXboi | amuller, haleyb: did the infra change that wiped out metering get fully reverted? | 13:54 |
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| regXboi | I ask, because that is what appears to be a caused of the dvr and LB check jobs going off to insanity | 13:56 |
| regXboi | er a *cause* | 13:57 |
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| moshele | beagles: I ask the question in the virt channel maybe someone familiar with that | 13:59 |
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| beagles | moshele, k. | 14:00 |
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| moshele | beagles: anyway if you let me know so I can apply a fix for that | 14:00 |
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| matrohon | honghuixiao, hi | 14:00 |
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| moshele | beagles: know the answer... :) | 14:01 |
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| irenab | moshele: you can check what was applied in eswitchd version | 14:02 |
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| moshele | irenab: true I will | 14:03 |
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| beagles | moshele, yup, I'll let you know what I find out | 14:03 |
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| ihrachys | ajo: am I right that dscp marks should apply to encapsulation frames to make a difference for tunnelled data plane? | 14:06 |
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| ihrachys | njohnston: ^ ? | 14:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/neutron: Hyper-V: remove driver from the neutron tree https://review.openstack.org/250363 | 14:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/neutron: Do not deprecate config var 'max_fixed_ips_per_port' https://review.openstack.org/252974 | 14:26 |
| garyk1 | kevinbenton: ^ | 14:26 |
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| garyk1 | claudiub|2: please see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/250363/ | 14:27 |
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| njohnston | ihrachys: No, dscp marks should only apply to the encapsulated traffic. That’s at least in our use case, where the real dscp filtering is occurring on traffic after it gains egress from the cloud. There may be a case for it with other implementations, I'll check with my network engineers. | 14:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Oleg Bondarev proposed openstack/neutron: Do not autoreschedule routers if l3 agent is back online https://review.openstack.org/252980 | 14:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Oleg Bondarev proposed openstack/neutron: Do not autoreschedule routers if l3 agent is back online https://review.openstack.org/252980 | 14:43 |
| ihrachys | njohnston: hm, so you have your traffic flowing between compute nodes without marks considered? that seems like we are not delivering the promise of marks, ain't it? | 14:43 |
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| njohnston | Hmm, I see your point. Marks would need to be considered for east-west traffic as well as north-south, yes. | 14:44 |
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| ihrachys | njohnston: ok | 14:44 |
| sc68cal | njohnston: so, marks are no longer being used for filtering, inside the cloud? | 14:44 |
| ihrachys | sc68cal: I guess they did not consider the E-W direction. | 14:45 |
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| sc68cal | ihrachys: no, they did. it's just they were using an extension of the SG api to allow inbound based on a DSCP mark value | 14:46 |
| njohnston | sc68cal: Well, we're still in l2-provider-network hell, so my understanding is that if the E-W traffic is not intra-hypervisor then it is going through the router. I'll need to doublecheck that with aveiga. | 14:46 |
| sc68cal | njohnston: even if it's intra-hypervisor the filtering still occurs | 14:46 |
| pc_m | amotoki: ping | 14:47 |
| haleyb | regXboi: my fix for the metering breakage is still waiting, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/252493/ i need to go ping infra | 14:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Hirofumi Ichihara proposed openstack/neutron: Add availability_zone support for router https://review.openstack.org/224418 | 14:47 |
| mhickey | garyk: Hi. Could you do a +2 on a devstack patch/ | 14:47 |
| mhickey | ? | 14:47 |
| regXboi | haleyb: ok | 14:47 |
| mhickey | garyk1: ^^^ | 14:48 |
| amotoki | pc_m: pong | 14:49 |
| pc_m | amotoki: Did you do the change to VPN to allow horizon to detect if multiple local subnets capability is available? | 14:50 |
| njohnston | sc68cal: The SG filtering does occur, or at least it did before we abandoned that SG extension - only 7% of projects were using it. Now we're now doing DSCP filtering purely for router ACL compression, and we want to implement the FWaaS API 2.0 to handle our other use cases. | 14:51 |
| amotoki | pc_m: not yet. I plan to do this next week. | 14:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jakub Libosvar proposed openstack/neutron: Add test cases to testing firewall drivers https://review.openstack.org/191148 | 14:51 |
| pc_m | amotoki: ok. thanks. We have Horizon person to implement support, and were wondering when they can do it. | 14:51 |
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| amotoki | pc_m: I see. I try to make my patch ready for review early. | 14:52 |
| pc_m | amotoki: ty | 14:52 |
| sc68cal | njohnston: see the issue is you still need to filter on compute nodes | 14:53 |
| sc68cal | njohnston: you can obviously filter more on the ToR, but similar to any FwaaS implementation that uses a ToR or router, firewalls will need to apply at VM ports and at egress/ingress | 14:53 |
| sc68cal | to avoid coverage gaps like E-W | 14:53 |
| sc68cal | just like DVR. | 14:54 |
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| sc68cal | mhickey: which devstack patch are we trying to +2? | 14:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Ryan Moats proposed openstack/neutron: Further optimization of router delete processing https://review.openstack.org/251502 | 14:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jakub Libosvar proposed openstack/neutron: Add test cases to testing firewall drivers https://review.openstack.org/191148 | 14:58 |
| mhickey | <sc68cal>: neutron core part. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204722/ | 14:58 |
| mhickey | sc68cal:^ | 14:58 |
| njohnston | sc68cal: Is that not what is meant by the FWaaS API 2.0 spec saying that FWaaS will apply at the level of neutron ports? That's what we want to do, is to use that to say "this group of CIDR blocks is the office network" and then people can grab that in their fw rules to say "allow <office network> inbound port 22" and have it be applied at the VM level. We won't use DSCP for that kind of filtering anym | 14:58 |
| njohnston | ore. | 14:58 |
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| regXboi | did gerrit get confused? | 14:59 |
| haleyb | i think gerrit was just restarted | 15:00 |
| regXboi | ugh | 15:00 |
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| regXboi | ugh^2 :) | 15:00 |
| haleyb | yup, note in infra room about it | 15:00 |
| regXboi | yeah unfortunately, I have a patchset that got caught | 15:01 |
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| Swami | good to know | 15:01 |
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| garyk1 | mhickey: which patch? | 15:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Ryan Moats proposed openstack/neutron: Further optimization of router delete processing https://review.openstack.org/251502 | 15:02 |
| mhickey | garyk1: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204722/ | 15:03 |
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| garyk1 | lgtm! gracias | 15:03 |
| mhickey | garyk1: Thank you, much appreciated! :) | 15:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/250564 | 15:05 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/251656 | 15:05 |
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| beagles | moshele, itzikb: when I do an 'ip link show' to list all of the links the macvtap interface shows in the form of macvtap0@p4p2_5 (for example) | 15:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | venkata anil proposed openstack/neutron: select router with subnet's gateway_ip for floatingip https://review.openstack.org/220135 | 15:07 |
| beagles | moshele, itzikb I wonder this is consistent across platforms, and if so is manageable as way to find links | 15:07 |
| beagles | not as nice as examining the file system, but... | 15:07 |
| garyk1 | mhickey: this is a great addition! | 15:08 |
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| mhickey | garyk1: thanks; working away with ihrachys and others to get it in. getting there, on *aas projects now. | 15:09 |
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| moshele | beagles: it will be better if we had a file to check | 15:10 |
| * beagles nods | 15:10 | |
| anilvenkata | john-davidge: Hi John | 15:11 |
| john-davidge | anilvenkata: Hello | 15:11 |
| beagles | moshele, I'm kind of juggling a couple of priority tasks at the moment, but I'll keep looking/thinking in the gap-times | 15:11 |
| moshele | beagles: thanks | 15:12 |
| anilvenkata | john-davidge: can u please review my PD patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/241227/ | 15:12 |
| john-davidge | anilvenkata: Sure, I’ll take another look today | 15:12 |
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| anilvenkata | john-davidge: thanks pavel_bondar can u also please review this PD patch? | 15:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hirofumi Ichihara proposed openstack/neutron: Add availability_zone support for router https://review.openstack.org/224418 | 15:21 |
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| pavel_bondar | anilvenkata: thanks for the ping, I'll take a look | 15:33 |
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| regXboi | amuller: weird - PS 251502 (which messes with the dvr functional tests) passed the functional job just fine | 15:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sergey Belous proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] Add check that list of agents is not empty in _get_enabled_agents() https://review.openstack.org/253032 | 15:51 |
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| sc68cal | Do we have a graphite wizard awake? I have an old graphite URL that I found in my browser history that doesn't look right | 15:53 |
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| sc68cal | regXboi: I think it might be from that dashboard patch you were working on? | 15:54 |
| regXboi | sc68cal: what's the URL? | 15:54 |
| regXboi | (and no, I'm not awake :) ) | 15:54 |
| sc68cal | regXboi: http://paste.openstack.org/show/480784/ | 15:54 |
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| regXboi | sc68cal: that's old | 15:55 |
| sc68cal | regXboi: did your patch get merged? I can't find it | 15:55 |
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| sc68cal | where we have the graphite queries in a dashboard | 15:56 |
| regXboi | sc68cal: the dashboard pages in the documentation have correct URLs | 15:56 |
| sc68cal | regXboi: ah found it - perfect | 15:56 |
| regXboi | sc68cal: yw | 15:56 |
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| regXboi | now, the graphs are hideous right now | 15:56 |
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| sc68cal | oh god what is going on with linux bridge right now | 15:57 |
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| sc68cal | someone broke my shit and I'm pissed | 15:59 |
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| regXboi | sc68cal: I can help with htat I think | 16:00 |
| haleyb | sc68cal: was that my disable_ipv6 patch? | 16:00 |
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| regXboi | haleyb: no, iirc that is the metering patch | 16:00 |
| regXboi | as well | 16:00 |
| sc68cal | yeah wtf is this metering thing | 16:00 |
| regXboi | haleyb: the floor is yours :) | 16:00 |
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| itzikb | beagles: sorry for delay I think so but I have just rhel based for the moment | 16:01 |
| haleyb | it has two +2's now, just waiting for mestery - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/252493/ | 16:01 |
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| sc68cal | hang on a second | 16:01 |
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| regXboi | mestery: get that thing approved - it's killing the dvr jobs for sure | 16:01 |
| regXboi | sc68cal: oh?! | 16:02 |
| beagles | itzikb, thanks! | 16:02 |
| sc68cal | is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/252493/ a revert of 535406d41283eb62548e1d242043199029dab34a ? | 16:02 |
| mestery | haleyb regXboi: +1, lets merge it | 16:02 |
| haleyb | mestery: btw, i was going on clarkb's advice with that change, but the previous infra patch was fubar | 16:02 |
| mestery | haleyb: Ack | 16:02 |
| itzikb | beagles: I'll send moshele email and maybe we can work it out together | 16:03 |
| haleyb | sc68cal: no, it removes all the broken code that commit modified | 16:03 |
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| beagles | itzikb, k. I'm swamped probably for the rest of the day, but I'll investigate some more later this evening. | 16:03 |
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| sc68cal | haleyb: right! and the whole OVERRIDE_ENABLED_SERVICES mess was introduced in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/243949/ | 16:04 |
| haleyb | sc68cal: yup | 16:05 |
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| rossella_s | ajo, ihrachys ping regarding ovo | 16:05 |
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| haleyb | sc68cal: i guess i should have referenced that in the commit message, but didn't | 16:06 |
| sc68cal | I'm just frustrated because it was all to fix a comma for some stupid shit that I originally put in, that didn't actually do anything | 16:06 |
| sc68cal | so I'm mad at myself | 16:06 |
| haleyb | so *you* broke it :) | 16:06 |
| sc68cal | no, it was broken, but it didn't do anything - then yamamoto tried to fix it and it broke for real | 16:06 |
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| haleyb | i'm annoyed that an infra change could merge without running any of the jobs it impacts - like neutron gate | 16:07 |
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| sc68cal | haleyb: yeah | 16:10 |
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| ihrachys | rossella_s: please drop email, I will read later a bit | 16:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Fix wrong file name in setup.cfg https://review.openstack.org/250719 | 16:54 |
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| dougwig | lifeless, ihrachys: just a note about the timing of removal of tox_install, the neutron-lib work makes that file disappear as a matter of course, btw. | 16:57 |
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| amuller | pc_m: check out https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1522494, newly reported | 17:04 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1522494 in neutron "tox -e pep8 fails with pylint errors: 'Undefined variable'" [Undecided,New] | 17:04 |
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| lifeless | dougwig: how so ? You'll still want to cross test via depends-on | 17:05 |
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| dougwig | lifeless: tox_install exists for one reason only: those projects depend on neutron, but can't fetch it via requirements.txt. once the dependency moves to a library that lives in pypi, that implicit bullshit dependency disappears, and the standard requirements mechanisms can just be used. then tox_install is deleted. | 17:07 |
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| lifeless | dougwig: that doesn't address patches that depend on a neutron-lib change | 17:08 |
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| lifeless | dougwig: how should they be tested? | 17:08 |
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| dougwig | lifeless: how do all the other lib projects do that today? today, i've just been doing a gross hack in the change along with the depends-on, so it gets master, and then undoing the hack. | 17:09 |
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| dougwig | lifeless: but i'm also not expecting the near simultaneous commits to be the norm. maybe that's naive, but this isn't a neutron issue, it becomes a standard python lib thing. | 17:11 |
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| manjeets | amuller: I think it becasue of some change done in this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/250071/ | 17:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Ryan Moats proposed openstack/neutron: Collector Proof of Concept https://review.openstack.org/213474 | 17:16 |
| openstackgerrit | David Shaughnessy proposed openstack/neutron: WIP: DSCP QoS rule implementation https://review.openstack.org/251738 | 17:16 |
| lifeless | dougwig: right, I don't think its a neutron thing, I think its a standard facility we don't have accessible enough today | 17:17 |
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| regXboi | armax: good morning | 17:18 |
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| regXboi | armax: there is an updated 204282 for you to look at | 17:20 |
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| mhickey | Hey. Anyone know how to deploy vpnaas using devstack? | 17:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Akihiro Motoki proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Add release notes for changes since 3.0.0 release https://review.openstack.org/251012 | 17:23 |
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| pc_m | mhickey: yes, just enable the plugin. | 17:24 |
| pc_m | mhickey: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/VPNaaS/HowToInstall | 17:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | David Shaughnessy proposed openstack/neutron: WIP: DSCP QoS rule implementation https://review.openstack.org/251738 | 17:26 |
| mhickey | pc_m: ok. so just plugin, no service? | 17:26 |
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| pc_m | yup, that enables the service. | 17:27 |
| mhickey | pc_m: deadly! Thanks Paul. :) | 17:27 |
| pc_m | mhickey: Sure. np | 17:27 |
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| haleyb | regXboi, amuller: the metering infra patch merged, but will take a while to percolate through | 17:29 |
| amuller | haleyb++ | 17:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Akihiro Motoki proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Do not include reno releasenotes in normal documentation https://review.openstack.org/253100 | 17:34 |
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| dougwig | do we have a bug open for this functional failure? http://logs.openstack.org/86/252686/1/check/gate-neutron-dsvm-functional/ea80f9f/console.html | 17:39 |
| dougwig | Cannot open network namespace "qrouter-a0a0705c-ce43-4ce4-b303-3da35fff27e6": No such file or directory | 17:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Manjeet Singh Bhatia proposed openstack/neutron: Reuse constants defined in attributes https://review.openstack.org/242230 | 17:40 |
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| dougwig | amuller: functional tests don't have a q-svc log, right? | 17:40 |
| amuller | dougwig: no | 17:41 |
| amuller | dougwig: I'm not convinced that trace is linked to any test failures | 17:41 |
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| dougwig | what in that console log is triggered the job failure? | 17:41 |
| amuller | dunno when that started happening but it looks like the process monitor is failing to respawn some dead process because the namespace is gone | 17:41 |
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| amuller | ajo: ^ | 17:41 |
| amuller | dougwig: tests that failed =p | 17:42 |
| amuller | dougwig: I grep for 'FAILED' | 17:42 |
| dougwig | amuller: oh, it's actually a job timeout. | 17:42 |
| amuller | yes | 17:42 |
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| dougwig | that's been happening to me a lot lately on functional. known issue, or infrastructure related or...? | 17:42 |
| amuller | dougwig: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1521815 | 17:42 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1521815 in neutron "DVR functional tests failing intermittently" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Swaminathan Vasudevan (swaminathan-vasudevan) | 17:42 |
| amuller | dougwig: the issue is known but we don't know why it's happening yet | 17:42 |
| dougwig | amuller: do we have a bug filed? | 17:43 |
| amuller | dougwig: yeah the one I just linked | 17:43 |
| dougwig | ahh, ty | 17:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Akihiro Motoki proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Do not include reno releasenotes in normal documentation https://review.openstack.org/253100 | 17:46 |
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| dougwig | HenryG or amotoki: either of you around? need an API LT triage for https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1513879 , or we punt for pecan. | 17:55 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1513879 in tripleo "NeutronClientException: 404 Not Found" [High,Triaged] | 17:55 |
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| amotoki | dougwig: hi | 17:56 |
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| dougwig | amotoki: morning! | 17:57 |
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| amotoki | dougwig: I added neutron to the bug you mentioned. | 17:58 |
| nerd100 | Hey guys, I've got a Problem with my liberty setup. I'm not able to create a vip for my loadbalancer. I'm getting the error: "Create vip 1ba7babb-32cb-48b9-a43f-328e190bc294 failed on device driver haproxy_ns" followed by a traceback :-( | 17:58 |
| nerd100 | Anybody got an idea how to solve this? | 17:59 |
| dougwig | amotoki: i know, and you are also listed as a neutron API lieutenant, so you get both ends. :) | 17:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | dougwig: do you know who might know more about this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/252100/ | 17:59 |
| dougwig | nerd100: can you pastebin the traceback? and switch to the #openstack-lbaas channel? | 17:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | seems weird that neutron minus l2pop would break now | 17:59 |
| amotoki | dougwig: I haven't investigated wheter it is not easy in the current implementation. i should investigate too. | 17:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | it used to work fine with or without it | 17:59 |
| nerd100 | dougwig: of course :-) | 17:59 |
| dougwig | amotoki: or do we want to punt the bug in favor of pecan, which will return exceptions differently? | 18:00 |
| amotoki | dougwig: i don't want to forget it in neutron side :) | 18:00 |
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| amotoki | dougwig: it is one possible and reasonable option. | 18:00 |
| igordcard | mohankumar, hi | 18:00 |
| Sam-I-Am | dougwig: not sure if its linuxbridge specific or not | 18:00 |
| amotoki | dougwig: I am now preparing a patch in neutronclient side which maps a response code into an exception (notfound, conflict or something) regardless of what message is retuend. | 18:01 |
| amotoki | dougwig: it will reduce pain points nova usually feels. | 18:01 |
| mohankumar | Igordcard , pong | 18:01 |
| amotoki | dougwig: so I don't think we need to rush it and we can tackle it as pecan work in neutron-server side. | 18:02 |
| dougwig | amotoki: sounds good. i assigned you the bug, so i'll defer to how you want to handle it. | 18:02 |
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| amotoki | dougwig: thanks. i will drop a comment to the bug. | 18:03 |
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| dougwig | Sam-I-Am: ty for the heads up. | 18:05 |
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| Sam-I-Am | dougwig: is there any particular person involved with l2pop? | 18:06 |
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| Sam-I-Am | this is one of those sort of obscure issues - is it only in liberty+, is it just a thing with linuxbridge (not ovs), is it related to other things :/ | 18:07 |
| dougwig | Sam-I-Am: i would start with the 'built in control plane' LT: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/neutron/policies/neutron-teams.html#core-review-hierarchy | 18:07 |
| dougwig | Sam-I-Am: aka kevinbenton | 18:07 |
| Sam-I-Am | dougwig: cool, thx. all roads lead to kevinbenton. | 18:08 |
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| Swami | amuller: ping | 18:08 |
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| njohnsto_ | ajo: ping | 18:11 |
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| regXboi | haleyb: ack on metering infra patch | 18:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sreekumar S proposed openstack/neutron: Huge mem usage during tunnel type driver initialization https://review.openstack.org/251940 | 18:20 |
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| dougwig | pc_m: can you comment on https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1498522 ? | 18:23 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1498522 in neutron "Some VPN service is "pending" status after vpn connection status is "active"" [Undecided,New] | 18:23 |
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| pc_m | dougwig: ok, in a bit | 18:23 |
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| pc_m | dougwig: that bug is on juno | 18:27 |
| kevinbenton | Sam-I-Am, dougwig: what did i miss? | 18:27 |
| Swami | regXboi: haleyb: amuller: See this console output from a test run that passed jenkins, but the failures in here are from dsvm-functional-py34, but it seems that might be related to the bug that we are chasing in a non py34 module, it exactly states that some tests are timeing out after 60 seconds. #link http://logs.openstack.org/77/252677/2/check/gate-neutron-dsvm-functional-py34/d47bb78/console.html | 18:28 |
| pc_m | dougwig: Should we ask them to repo with latest, as there have been many improvements over the releases. | 18:28 |
| Sam-I-Am | kevinbenton: this - https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/1521793 | 18:28 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1521793 in openstack-ansible trunk "Master/Liberty w/ L2pop disabled breaks neutron" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Kevin Carter (kevin-carter) | 18:28 |
| * regXboi looks | 18:28 | |
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| regXboi | on a different note - wtf?!?!?!?! | 18:28 |
| Sam-I-Am | because more combinations of things that supposedly dont work is more fun | 18:28 |
| Sam-I-Am | first it was l3ha+l2pop didnt work, then l3ha-l2pop, then conventional linuxbridge minus l2pop | 18:29 |
| regXboi | When did flake8 start complaining about multiple imports per line? | 18:29 |
| kevinbenton | so no l2pop and l3 ha is broken | 18:29 |
| kevinbenton | not just l2pop + linuxbridge by itself | 18:30 |
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| regXboi | who sets the flake8 rules that we follow? | 18:30 |
| regXboi | so I can go ask them a question :) | 18:30 |
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| Sam-I-Am | kevinbenton: wait, what? | 18:31 |
| kevinbenton | Sam-I-Am: if i understood the bug, does it require all 3 to reproduce (l2pop + l3ha + linuxbridge) | 18:32 |
| kevinbenton | Sam-I-Am: or do things break with just linuxbridge and l2pop | 18:32 |
| regXboi | kevinbenton: quick q for you - who sets our flake8 rules? | 18:33 |
| regXboi | or I should say what... | 18:33 |
| * regXboi is annoyed at https://jenkins03.openstack.org/job/gate-neutron-pep8-constraints/410/console | 18:33 | |
| Sam-I-Am | kevinbenton: sounds like linuxbridge minus l2pop breaks now | 18:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | so, no l3ha involvement | 18:34 |
| Sam-I-Am | the bug says it was l3ha, but supposedly the openstack-ansible folks tested this further and it breaks for conventional linuxbridge | 18:34 |
| kevinbenton | Sam-I-Am: oh, so linuxbridge by itself is broken! | 18:34 |
| kevinbenton | Sam-I-Am: i misread and though it was with l2pop | 18:35 |
| pc_m | dougwig: I set to incomplete, and asked submitter for more info. However, this is on an old release (Juno). | 18:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | hence this patch - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/252100/ | 18:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | now, this is in o-a, so this is best tested in a standalone lab - which i'm trying to do now | 18:35 |
| regXboi | dougwig: Ping? | 18:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | among 2987892 other things at once | 18:35 |
| * regXboi marvels at Sam-I-Am having a palindrome of things to do | 18:36 | |
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| dougwig | pc_m: perfect, ty | 18:36 |
| dougwig | regXboi: ack | 18:36 |
| regXboi | dougwig: did infra update flake8 or its rules? | 18:36 |
| regXboi | dougwig: see https://jenkins03.openstack.org/job/gate-neutron-pep8-constraints/410/console | 18:37 |
| regXboi | dougwig: "one import per line" ... ?!?! really ?!?!? | 18:37 |
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| dougwig | regXboi: do you have an edited tox.ini? it has an exception for two modules, one of which recently went in. | 18:37 |
| * regXboi re-checks patch | 18:38 | |
| regXboi | dougwig: no, this patch doesn't touch tox.ini | 18:38 |
| dougwig | https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/tox.ini#L174 | 18:38 |
| dougwig | oh balls, that should have both modules listed. you must have a file that has the old import style in your patch. | 18:39 |
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| regXboi | bingo | 18:39 |
| regXboi | that's it | 18:39 |
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| regXboi | I'll update this patch | 18:39 |
| dougwig | i'll also get the older style in the exception list. | 18:39 |
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| regXboi | dougwig: thx! | 18:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ryan Moats proposed openstack/neutron: Collector Proof of Concept https://review.openstack.org/213474 | 18:41 |
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| zzzeek | kevinbenton: why did we use "BIGINT" for that new standardattributes column ? | 18:51 |
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| singhj | For python-neutronclient, does anyone know why we only print a limited amount of help text for update,delete operations, but print extensive (more helpful) help text during create operations: neutron net-create -h vs neutron net-update -h. The latter doesn't print all potential arguments. | 18:52 |
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| kevinbenton | zzzeek: was worried with auto inc and a lot of object churn we could hit 4 bil | 18:54 |
| kevinbenton | zzzeek: do you think that will be an issue? i can migrate down | 18:54 |
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| zzzeek | kevinbenton: well it just means now you have the bigger indexes again like its a uuid | 18:55 |
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| zzzeek | kevinbenton: also im getting this : http://paste.openstack.org/show/480817/ look familiar ? | 18:55 |
| dougwig | kevinbenton: does it matter if it rolls, if it's unique? | 18:55 |
| regXboi | carl_baldwin, haleyb: 143169 has +2 from both of you - can it get a +A? | 18:56 |
| dougwig | but i think most of the big frameworks use 64 bit ints in their ids as well | 18:56 |
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| regXboi | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/143169/ | 18:56 |
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| regXboi | it's only the server side of HA+DVR :) | 18:57 |
| kevinbenton | zzzeek: ugh, that error doesn't look good | 18:57 |
| carl_baldwin | regXboi: I left it without a +A respecting amuller_afk 's desire to review it before it merges. | 18:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Fix typo in Docstring https://review.openstack.org/252854 | 18:57 |
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| zzzeek | kevinbenton: is it possible that the "ports" table didnt get upgraded? also how am i getting this in master ? | 18:57 |
| kevinbenton | zzzeek: i didn't run into that when i tested | 18:57 |
| Swami | regXboi: it seems amuller was trying to do his last check on this patch before he lets it merge. | 18:57 |
| regXboi | carl_baldwin: ack - I'll go heckle amuller_afk then | 18:58 |
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| zzzeek | kevinbenton: I run a special env here so i often find weird things | 18:58 |
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| Swami | regXboi: thanks | 18:58 |
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| carl_baldwin | I guess my +2 was the first on this patch set but on the previous one, I was the second +2. | 18:59 |
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| regXboi | carl_baldwin: can you review and do the honors on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/251502 ?? | 18:59 |
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| korzen | Hi sc68cal, do you know if grenade multinode job for neutron is running fine each time is executed? | 19:00 |
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| kevinbenton | zzzeek: ah, maybe some dbs don't like setting NOT NULL after the constraint | 19:00 |
| kevinbenton | zzzeek: https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/db/migration/alembic_migrations/versions/mitaka/contract/8a6d8bdae39_migrate_neutron_resources_table.py#L53-L60 | 19:00 |
| zzzeek | kevinbenton: that shouldnt be an issue | 19:01 |
| zzzeek | kevinbenton: id imagine this is datatype mismatch, but i havent narrowed down what "ports" is | 19:01 |
| sc68cal | korzen: no it looks like we're still having the issue with the initial resource creation | 19:01 |
| sc68cal | korzen: i ran a check either yesterday or day before and it had failed | 19:02 |
| sc68cal | korzen: so we need to put our heads together and figure out why it's failing | 19:02 |
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| kevinbenton | zzzeek: ports is just a table | 19:03 |
| kevinbenton | zzzeek: and it would have been the first table it tried | 19:03 |
| zzzeek | kevinbenton: right. OK I get this running a straight upgrade | 19:04 |
| zzzeek | kevinbenton: not just the tests. so this is more of a thing (tm) | 19:04 |
| zzzeek | kevinbenton: http://paste.openstack.org/show/480818/ | 19:04 |
| korzen | sc68cal, I did not have time to look at it this week, is the initial resource failing also in other jobs? | 19:05 |
| kevinbenton | zzzeek: right, what db backend is that? | 19:05 |
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| kevinbenton | zzzeek: maybe one does care about not null changes after in foreign key | 19:06 |
| zzzeek | kevinbenton: mysql, i have it up on console will see | 19:06 |
| kevinbenton | zzzeek: ack | 19:06 |
| zzzeek | kevinbenton: changing the col to not null is *very* standard | 19:06 |
| sc68cal | korzen: not sure what you mean by other jobs | 19:06 |
| sc68cal | korzen: think the multinode grenade job is the only job that exercises grenade like this | 19:06 |
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| zzzeek | kevinbenton: welp. maybe youre right | 19:07 |
| kevinbenton | zzzeek: so if you just flip around the order of those in the migration script does it work ok? | 19:07 |
| korzen | sc68cal, I meant if there is also other gate jobs which are using initial resource creation | 19:07 |
| korzen | sc68cal it should be the normal grenade (single node) | 19:08 |
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| zzzeek | kevinbenton: will check. see http://paste.openstack.org/show/480819/ | 19:08 |
| sc68cal | korzen: good point but is the normal grenade doing it on stable/liberty like the multinode? | 19:08 |
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| sc68cal | korzen: actually as I think - that's the difference - multinode testing | 19:09 |
| zzzeek | kevinbenton: yes | 19:09 |
| kevinbenton | zzzeek: if you did an ALTER TABLE without specifying the type would it have exploded? | 19:09 |
| sc68cal | korzen: we're seeing it fail when it tries to SSH - it might be getting scheduled on the subnode and that's why it's failing, compared to all-in-one | 19:09 |
| zzzeek | kevinbenton: it likes those existing types, mysql, its how it is | 19:10 |
| kevinbenton | zzzeek: yeah, i thought that was the case | 19:10 |
| zzzeek | kevinbenton: yup, wow add another limiation on the barbie....i can *change* the column to be NULL, but then not right back!! | 19:10 |
| kevinbenton | zzzeek: ok. do you want to push a patch up for that? if not, i can throw one together really quick | 19:10 |
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| zzzeek | MariaDB [test]> ALTER TABLE ports MODIFY standard_attr_id BIGINT(20) NOT NULL; | 19:10 |
| zzzeek | Query OK, 0 rows affected (0.01 sec) | 19:10 |
| zzzeek | Records: 0 Duplicates: 0 Warnings: 0 | 19:10 |
| zzzeek | MariaDB [test]> ALTER TABLE ports MODIFY standard_attr_id BIGINT(20) NULL; | 19:10 |
| zzzeek | Query OK, 0 rows affected (0.06 sec) | 19:10 |
| zzzeek | Records: 0 Duplicates: 0 Warnings: 0 | 19:10 |
| zzzeek | MariaDB [test]> ALTER TABLE ports MODIFY standard_attr_id BIGINT(20) NOT NULL; | 19:11 |
| zzzeek | ERROR 1832 (HY000): Cannot change column 'standard_attr_id': used in a foreign key constraint 'ports_ibfk_2' | 19:11 |
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| kevinbenton | zzzeek: :) | 19:11 |
| korzen | sc68cal, yep that's my thinking, do you have any new logs from success and failed runs of grenade multinode? | 19:11 |
| zzzeek | kevinbenton: look at that!! i can ALTER it to NULL but then not back! | 19:11 |
| kevinbenton | zzzeek: apparently it's too lazy to scan the table for null values | 19:11 |
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| zzzeek | kevinbenton: this is like the latest / greatest mariadb, im not really sure why i havent seen this one | 19:11 |
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| zzzeek | kevinbenton: ill do it, itll help me to get my auth code for austin :) | 19:11 |
| kevinbenton | zzzeek: ah, so that explains why it wasn't caught in our grenade job | 19:11 |
| sc68cal | korzen: I think probably just the ones from your runs | 19:12 |
| kevinbenton | zzzeek: sounds good. shoot me the link when it's up for review | 19:12 |
| sc68cal | korzen: I don't think I've gotten lucky yet and gotten a pass | 19:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Carl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: Add address scope to ports in RPC response to L3 agent https://review.openstack.org/189948 | 19:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Carl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: Add address scope to floating IPs in RPC response to L3 agent https://review.openstack.org/189500 | 19:13 |
| kevinbenton | zzzeek: back to the earlier discussion. bigint is 64-bit right? | 19:13 |
| zzzeek | kevinbenton: i dunno id have to look it up | 19:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Carl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: Create a routing table manager https://review.openstack.org/192032 | 19:13 |
| korzen | sc68cal, strange enough that before resource creation, there are tempest smoke tests runs, and there should be ssh also to the instance | 19:14 |
| korzen | sc68cal the ssh is working for the tempest... | 19:14 |
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| kevinbenton | zzzeek, dougwig: perhaps i was too influenced by the social network when i wrote that migration. 4 million records isn't cool, you know what's cool? 4 billion! :) | 19:15 |
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| zzzeek | kevinbenton: id leave it at the bigint, i thought for a second this was the PK in all the other tables but it's not | 19:16 |
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| kevinbenton | zzzeek: it's a good thing you are running latest maria and caught this. thanks | 19:18 |
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| sthillma | hoping I can pick someone’s brain for a bit on L3 HA- specifically I’m trying to understand how active/standby status is communicated (to OVS for example)? I see the ha_conf file, but I wasn’t sure if that was the only mechanism? | 19:19 |
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| Sam-I-Am | sthillma: it uses vrrp on a separate network for each tenant (by default) | 19:20 |
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| sthillma | Sam-I-Am: yeah, I see that as well, but I’m specifically wondering how OVS knows which port to keep up and which to keep as backups | 19:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Michael Bayer proposed openstack/neutron: Run NOT NULL alterations before foreign key adds https://review.openstack.org/253150 | 19:23 |
| Sam-I-Am | sthillma: theres no priorites set, so if the master dies, the backup is chosen at random | 19:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | or using whatever mechanism vrrp uses when priorites match | 19:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Michael Bayer proposed openstack/neutron: Run NOT NULL alterations before foreign key adds https://review.openstack.org/253150 | 19:24 |
| sthillma | Sam-I-Am: yeah so, say the master dies and a backup is chosen, how does OVS come to know that now the backup port needs to become active? | 19:26 |
| sthillma | Sam-I-Am: thats my question, sorry if I’m not asking it very effectively :) | 19:26 |
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| sc68cal | korzen: yeah it's a matter of just me digging in more into it | 19:28 |
| openstackgerrit | ZongKai LI proposed openstack/neutron: fix _validate_shared_update for dvr router ports https://review.openstack.org/253155 | 19:28 |
| kevinbenton | sthillma: what do you mean? OVS shouldn't need to know which is active vs backup | 19:28 |
| kevinbenton | sthillma: the l3 ha code does update the host_id when the active changes | 19:29 |
| kevinbenton | sthillma: but strictly from OVS's perspective, it doesn't notice IIRC | 19:30 |
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| sthillma | kevinbenton: ah ok, so all those ports are kept up at all times then? I was thinking the backups were down unless they were needed. Can you point me to where the host_id is updated? | 19:35 |
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| ihrachys | sc68cal: I updated the agenda page for the upgrades meeting with what I am aware of. | 19:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean M. Collins proposed openstack/neutron: [policy] Clarify bug deputy does not require core bit https://review.openstack.org/253164 | 19:38 |
| markvoelker | hmm, also falls afoul of the "don't flag all tests in a capability" rule (*cough* https://review.openstack.org/#/c/234824/ *cough*). =p | 19:38 |
| markvoelker | oops, wrong channel | 19:38 |
| regXboi | armax: ping | 19:39 |
| armax | regXboi: pong | 19:39 |
| regXboi | armax: you wanted a notice when 204282 was updated | 19:39 |
| kevinbenton | sthillma: this was the patch to add that. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/141114/27 | 19:39 |
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| kevinbenton | sthillma: i gtg for a while | 19:39 |
| armax | regXboi: it’s in my pipeline | 19:40 |
| sthillma | kevinbenton: got it, thanks! | 19:40 |
| armax | regXboi: noticed ack-ed | 19:40 |
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| regXboi | armax: ok... fyi, 213474 - the PoC is open for reviews | 19:40 |
| armax | regXboi: ok | 19:40 |
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| regXboi | armax: I have a todo on 213474 of updating the devref with info from it | 19:40 |
| regXboi | armax: but I'm waiting for 204282 to merge | 19:41 |
| armax | I shan’t be long | 19:41 |
| regXboi | armax: no worries | 19:41 |
| * regXboi is waiting for the -1 storm on 213474 :) | 19:41 | |
| * sc68cal looks | 19:42 | |
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| HenryG | armax: ping | 19:42 |
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| regXboi | HenryG: !!!!!! | 19:43 |
| HenryG | regXboi: what!!!!!!? | 19:43 |
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| armax | HenryG: pong | 19:43 |
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| HenryG | armax: is M-1 tagged/released yet? | 19:43 |
| armax | HenryG: yes, sorta | 19:44 |
| HenryG | armax: because zzzeek & kevinbenton just foudn an issue that should get in M-1 | 19:44 |
| armax | HenryG: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/251959/ | 19:44 |
| armax | HenryG: too late | 19:45 |
| HenryG | armax: https://review.openstack.org/253150 | 19:45 |
| armax | I think | 19:45 |
| armax | not sure what the process is at this point | 19:45 |
| armax | I think it’s ‘tough luck' | 19:45 |
| armax | I wonder if there are milestone-related release notes | 19:46 |
| armax | in which case we could flag the bug | 19:46 |
| armax | dhellmann might know more | 19:46 |
| armax | if that is a possibility | 19:46 |
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| armax | HenryG: I can’t believe there’s always migrations that get in the bloody way | 19:48 |
| HenryG | armax: :( | 19:49 |
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| armax | I honestly think that fixing this mid-flight is fine | 19:50 |
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| armax | ihrachys: what do you reckon? | 19:51 |
| HenryG | armax: I don't know if there really are trunk-chasers out there, and I have always assumed they are quite resilient (have backups, etc.) to such issues. | 19:51 |
| armax | HenryG: I mean fixing it in place, I think that’s our only option if we want to play nice with mariadb | 19:51 |
| HenryG | armax: yes, for that issue I don't see another solution | 19:51 |
| armax | flavor that zzzeek is talking about | 19:52 |
| armax | we gotta figure out a way to prevent these issues from happening | 19:52 |
| ihrachys | HenryG: what's the worse scenario they get? failure to run migration scripts? | 19:53 |
| ihrachys | HenryG: I mean, if they are broken, their db is not upgraded | 19:53 |
| ihrachys | so fine, let them patch and repeat | 19:53 |
| zzzeek | armax: if there were a CI bot with mariadb running, this ouwld have been caught :) | 19:53 |
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| ihrachys | as long as we don't leave db in broken state, that should be ok | 19:54 |
| carl_baldwin | regXboi: ping | 19:54 |
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| ihrachys | HenryG: comments? | 19:54 |
| regXboi | carl_baldwin: pong | 19:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Wiegley proposed openstack/neutron: Allow multiple imports for both ways of doing i18n https://review.openstack.org/253173 | 19:54 |
| carl_baldwin | regXboi: I was just looking at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/240971 | 19:55 |
| * regXboi looks | 19:55 | |
| regXboi | yes? | 19:55 |
| ihrachys | HenryG: a worse situation is when a script IS silently applied, just leaves a schema that is a tiny bit wrong. | 19:55 |
| regXboi | did it leave something dangling? | 19:55 |
| carl_baldwin | regXboi: Is there no need to update fip statuses? | 19:56 |
| ihrachys | HenryG: armax: anyway, I run away and won't be avail for a while, so behave | 19:56 |
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| carl_baldwin | regXboi: I know they've been disassociated. Does that automatically make the status irrelevant? | 19:56 |
| regXboi | carl_baldwin: IIRC, no, because you can't delete a router if there a FIPs scheduled to it | 19:56 |
| regXboi | the disaassociation should update the status | 19:56 |
| regXboi | imho | 19:57 |
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| carl_baldwin | regXboi: Does/should it? Wouldn't the status be lying if we disassociated but the L3 agent hasn't gotten around to actually stopping it from doing its thing? | 19:57 |
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| regXboi | carl_baldwin: thinking | 19:58 |
| carl_baldwin | regXboi: BTW, sorry I didn't get to this review while it was in play. My bad. | 19:59 |
| regXboi | carl_balwin | 19:59 |
| regXboi | oh | 19:59 |
| regXboi | carl_baldwin: when I say "the disassociate should update the fip status" I don't mean the API call, I mean the code path that handles the disassociate in the L3 agent | 19:59 |
| regXboi | changing the status in the API call would be evil | 19:59 |
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| regXboi | because we very well *would* be lying | 20:00 |
| carl_baldwin | regXboi: But that might just be this code path. If both the disassociation and the router delete happen before the L3 agent gets around to either, they'll both be done in the same pass. | 20:00 |
| regXboi | does that make sense or have I fallen off the beam? | 20:00 |
| regXboi | carl_baldwin: I would posit (based on my testing) that would require the L3 agent to be very sick | 20:02 |
| regXboi | i.e. in all the testing that I've done, I've not seen multiple updates get lumped together into a single pass | 20:03 |
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| amuller | sthillma: about your L3 HA question earlier | 20:03 |
| sthillma | amuller: yeah? | 20:03 |
| amuller | sthillma: all router replica ports (both active & standby) are 'active' all of the time from the L2 agent's point of view | 20:03 |
| amuller | sthillma: they're plugged and good to go | 20:04 |
| regXboi | carl_baldwin: and I'm covering both the add and the remove paths in that statement | 20:04 |
| amuller | sthillma: when a standby becomes active keepalived configures IP addresses, and it's good to go... | 20:04 |
| amuller | sthillma: if you're using OVS or LB without l2pop, that's all you need | 20:04 |
| carl_baldwin | regXboi: Or just busy. | 20:04 |
| regXboi | carl_baldwin: all of the router update threads (I think there are 8 of them) would have to be busy | 20:05 |
| amuller | sthillma: l2pop, as well as drivers like BigSwitch need the 'host' parameter of the port to actually point to the active port | 20:05 |
| regXboi | that (imho) qualifies as "sick" | 20:05 |
| amuller | sthillma: so we added a mechanism in the L3 agent that whenever it notices a transition to master it notifies the neutron-server, that in turn updates the 'host' value for the port | 20:05 |
| amuller | sthillma: Does that make sense? | 20:06 |
| amuller | Sam-I-Am: I understand there's some sort of issue with L3 HA you were talking about earlier? | 20:06 |
| Sam-I-Am | amuller: sort of seems that way | 20:06 |
| Sam-I-Am | i'm trying to make sense of all the commentary | 20:06 |
| regXboi | carl_baldwin: if you can think of a way to easily figure out that both updates are being handled in a single pass, I'm all ears. I'm not sure off the top of my head how to do it without bringing back in the nasty scaling | 20:06 |
| amuller | Sam-I-Am: if there's any bugs or specifics I could look at... You know who to ping :) | 20:07 |
| carl_baldwin | regXboi: They can easily all be busy on a full_sync. Also, what if the agent is down momentarily for whatever reason. The agent was written to avoid making a lot of assumptions. It fetches the current router, looks at what the state of the system is and updates it accordingly. | 20:07 |
| regXboi | carl_baldwin: I don't believe that is 100% true | 20:07 |
| Sam-I-Am | amuller: seems like there's some issue with the combination of linuxbridge l3ha and l2pop, but now i'm all confused because arp spoof protection may be in the mix. | 20:07 |
| Sam-I-Am | which is why i'm going to test all these combinations locally | 20:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | once i fix this lab | 20:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | stupid controller node OOM'd | 20:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | because ceilometer | 20:08 |
| regXboi | carl_baldwin: but that's neither here nor there | 20:08 |
| amuller | Sam-I-Am: OK I'm not aware of any severe issues there | 20:08 |
| sthillma | amuller: yeah, makes sense. What I’m trying to do falls into that latter camp, so I need to see how we can leverage that notification | 20:09 |
| carl_baldwin | regXboi: That statement is meaningless unless supported with details. | 20:09 |
| amuller | sthillma: it's an RPC message sent by the l3 agent that is processed by neutron-server | 20:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | amuller: the thing that came up today over in openstack-ansible is this - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/252100/ | 20:09 |
| amuller | sthillma: it should work with any core plugin | 20:09 |
| regXboi | carl_baldwin: I base that statement on the fact that order of router operations matters to agent execution time | 20:09 |
| sthillma | amuller: including ML2 i’m assuming? | 20:10 |
| amuller | sthillma: yes | 20:10 |
| regXboi | if your statement were true, then I'd not see that behavior | 20:10 |
| sthillma | amuller: excellent, thanks for getting back to me, appreciate it! | 20:11 |
| regXboi | for example the total execution time spent by the L3 agent for the add-inteface and set external gateway operations depends on their order | 20:11 |
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| regXboi | because the L3 agent repeats itself | 20:11 |
| amuller | sthillma: sure thing :) | 20:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | regXboi: i know a quick way to fix all of these problems | 20:11 |
| regXboi | Sam-I-Am: don't go there :) | 20:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | regXboi: throw more hardware at it :) | 20:11 |
| regXboi | Sam-I-Am: I told you not to go there :) | 20:12 |
| Sam-I-Am | haha | 20:12 |
| * Sam-I-Am builds a hardware accelerator for rabbitmq | 20:12 | |
| * regXboi marvels at Sam-I-Am's attempt at yet another version of a perpetual motion machine | 20:12 | |
| regXboi | :) | 20:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | someday i'll get it, and make lots of money | 20:13 |
| carl_baldwin | regXboi: I'm confused. Which statement of mine had to do with execution time? | 20:13 |
| regXboi | carl_baldwin: " It fetches the current router, looks at what the state of the system is and updates it accordingly." | 20:13 |
| amuller | Sam-I-Am: ok, added a comment there | 20:14 |
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| carl_baldwin | regXboi: What does that have to do with execution time? I was talking about correct operation. | 20:14 |
| carl_baldwin | I didn't make any claims that it would do this with optimal execution time. | 20:14 |
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| regXboi | carl_baldwin: I read that statement to mean that the agent only applied needed changes to align the current state to the desired state | 20:15 |
| regXboi | and that's just not true | 20:15 |
| Sam-I-Am | amuller: thx | 20:15 |
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| carl_baldwin | regXboi: Good thing that is not what it says. | 20:15 |
| regXboi | carl_baldwin: sorry, but that is what it said to me | 20:15 |
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| carl_baldwin | regXboi: I support efforts to reduce execution time. My question, though, is about the correctness of operation. We can't sacrifice that for execution time. | 20:16 |
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| regXboi | carl_baldwin: I'm not sure I 100% agree with you, but let's put that aside for a moment | 20:17 |
| regXboi | and let me take you side of the arguement for a moment | 20:17 |
| regXboi | and see how we can keep you happy while cutting execution time | 20:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Slawek Kaplonski proposed openstack/neutron: Add extension_manager and support for extensions in linuxbridge agent https://review.openstack.org/250542 | 20:18 |
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| carl_baldwin | regXboi: You could convince that the operation is correct despite my concern. | 20:19 |
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| regXboi | carl_baldwin: I know enough about corner cases to not try that | 20:19 |
| carl_baldwin | regXboi: Do you want to redefine correct in this case? I'm open to that too with a reasonable argument. | 20:20 |
| carl_baldwin | regXboi: I can be flexible. :) I just want to feel good about the end result. | 20:21 |
| regXboi | carl_baldwin: correct would be that the system is left in a self consistent state at the end of the operation without performing operations that aren't needed | 20:21 |
| regXboi | (the last is how I cut execution time) | 20:21 |
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| regXboi | now, that likely means pushing the delete flag down deeper into the code so that operations taking place within the router namespace are skipped | 20:22 |
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| regXboi | but that operations that take place outside of the router namespace (like updating fip statuses on disassociation) still take place | 20:22 |
| regXboi | does that make sense? | 20:23 |
| regXboi | (and if so, amuller is gonna love that :) ) | 20:23 |
| regXboi | actually | 20:23 |
| carl_baldwin | I tend to agree with amuller about the delete flag. But, really we're just talking about fip status sent back to the server, right? | 20:24 |
| amuller | what are we talking about? | 20:24 |
| regXboi | well, not quite - there is also OVS table cleanup | 20:24 |
| amuller | a specific patch? | 20:24 |
| regXboi | amuller: we are talking about 240971 | 20:24 |
| regXboi | which already merged | 20:24 |
| carl_baldwin | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/251502/ | 20:24 |
| carl_baldwin | Oops, did I get that wrong. | 20:25 |
| regXboi | and 251502 (the next stage) | 20:25 |
| regXboi | that's the PS in play | 20:25 |
| carl_baldwin | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/240971 | 20:25 |
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| * carl_baldwin thought he had clicked on the reference to the older patch. | 20:25 | |
| carl_baldwin | regXboi: The OVS table cleanup hadn't entered my mind yet. | 20:26 |
| regXboi | carl_baldwin I think this may be a non issue | 20:26 |
| carl_baldwin | regXboi: Was that brought up by someone else? | 20:26 |
| regXboi | carl_baldwin: it did for me - that's why 251502 has functional test changes | 20:26 |
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| regXboi | because it broke the functional test job because of OVS table cleanup :) | 20:26 |
| amuller | carl_baldwin: you were talking about correctness, did we introduce any bugs in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/240971 or https://review.openstack.org/#/c/251502/? | 20:26 |
| regXboi | amuller: carl_baldwin is asking if we did | 20:27 |
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| carl_baldwin | amuller: I was wondering if 240971 not sending fip statuses for fips on a deleted router is an issue. I realize that they were disassociated already but the agent never sent status back. | 20:28 |
| amuller | carl_baldwin: looking | 20:28 |
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| regXboi | carl_baldwin: I think not | 20:29 |
| regXboi | I don't think the disassociate and the delete can go in the same update | 20:29 |
| regXboi | because the delete operation does not pass a router | 20:29 |
| regXboi | see L3/agent.py L442-L464 | 20:30 |
| regXboi | carl_baldwin: but I'm always willing to be educated | 20:31 |
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| amuller | carl_baldwin: the router will not have floating IPs to report about when the agent receives the delete request | 20:32 |
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| amuller | carl_baldwin: and the last disassociate must occur before the agent starts processing the delete update | 20:32 |
| amuller | because of that fancy per-router queue you added :) | 20:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Aishwarya Thangappa proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Firewall as a Service API 2.0 https://review.openstack.org/243873 | 20:33 |
| regXboi | oh, was that carl_baldwin's code? that is sweet :) | 20:34 |
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| carl_baldwin | I'm not convinced we won't process a delete router event without first processing the fip disassociations. I'm thinking about missed notifications, out of order, L3 agent was restarted, missing the fip notification, etc. | 20:36 |
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| carl_baldwin | regXboi: amuller: ^ | 20:36 |
| regXboi | isn't missed notifications/out of order saying you don't trust the RPC channel? | 20:38 |
| regXboi | not that I'm saying you are wrong, just asking | 20:38 |
| spandhe | carl_baldwin: Hi Carl, I am trying to understand the routed networks spec. I can’t quite follow the need for a tree of IpNetworks. IpNetwork is assumed to be reachable from all compute hosts, which is why I am confused about tree representation | 20:39 |
| haleyb | regXboi: i think it's a fact that RPCs can be dropped | 20:39 |
| carl_baldwin | regXboi: Does it guarantee delivery? In my experience it doesn't. | 20:39 |
| regXboi | carl_baldwin, haleyb: ok, that's fair | 20:39 |
| carl_baldwin | spandhe: I can see that I stated that poorly. | 20:40 |
| carl_baldwin | spandhe: I'll go try to clarify in a comment. | 20:40 |
| regXboi | but that brings me back to being much more intrusive to the code | 20:40 |
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| amuller | carl_baldwin: I see your point. I don't know off the top of my head if the agent deals correctly with missing a notification and applying the next update correctly in all cases | 20:41 |
| regXboi | I was trying to avoid a large code change, but that may not be possible | 20:41 |
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| carl_baldwin | regXboi: Even after all of this discussion, I might be able to accept the current state with your patch merged for now. | 20:42 |
| regXboi | carl_baldwin: with the proviso that if we do find a bug, we go with the deeper change? | 20:43 |
| carl_baldwin | regXboi: I think we should think about what should be happening if a fip is disassociated. Do we even track the status of the fip from that point? | 20:43 |
| regXboi | carl_baldwin: I'd have to look | 20:44 |
| * regXboi admits to not knowing off the top of his head | 20:44 | |
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| carl_baldwin | amuller: It was pretty darn close to doing it correct. It took some duplication of work to do it though. | 20:44 |
| * regXboi goes to try an experiment | 20:44 | |
| carl_baldwin | amuller: In some cases, it would duplicate because it was just as expensive to check the system state as it was to just set it. | 20:45 |
| amuller | yeah | 20:45 |
| amuller | carl_baldwin: I think I'd rather revert TBH | 20:45 |
| amuller | carl_baldwin: I'd rather the L3 agent actually be robust and slow than fast and buggy =p | 20:46 |
| spandhe | carl_baldwin: thanks.. | 20:46 |
| carl_baldwin | amuller: We can post the revert and discuss there. | 20:46 |
| regXboi | well... hold on now | 20:46 |
| amuller | hah | 20:46 |
| regXboi | I don't have core rights to slow this down - but I'd much rather do both | 20:46 |
| regXboi | and go the more intrusive patch | 20:47 |
| amuller | regXboi: how would that patch look like? | 20:47 |
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| carl_baldwin | regXboi: How about just tacking on fip notification to the delete path instead of using the flag? | 20:47 |
| carl_baldwin | *fip status notification | 20:47 |
| regXboi | amuller: pretty darn ugly - the delete knowledge has to percolate down so that operation in the router namespace don't happen, but operations in other places do | 20:47 |
| regXboi | carl_baldwin: how does that help the ovs bridge issue? | 20:48 |
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| carl_baldwin | regXboi: I thought you weren't convinced about the OVS bridge issue. | 20:48 |
| regXboi | carl_baldwin: no, that one I *am* | 20:48 |
| carl_baldwin | regXboi: TBH, I still don't have my head wrapped around that one. | 20:48 |
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| carl_baldwin | regXboi: I still think that we can use a second code path rather than the ugly flag passing. | 20:49 |
| regXboi | carl_baldwin: that makes me rather nervous, because its essentially a parallel code path that has to be kept up to date | 20:50 |
| carl_baldwin | A little refactoring might be in order to share common parts of the code paths but I think it is a lot more understandable than passing flags around. | 20:50 |
| regXboi | if we can share common parts of code path, then I'm ok | 20:50 |
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| regXboi | so carl_baldwin: on the question of the fip association, what exactly are you asking? | 20:51 |
| regXboi | the disassocation ends up with the FIP being marked with a status of DOWN | 20:51 |
| regXboi | is there anything else I should be looking at? | 20:52 |
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| carl_baldwin | regXboi: The disassociation marks status DOWN on the server side without hearing from the agent? | 20:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Brian Haley proposed openstack/neutron: Correct return values for bridge.disable_ipv6() https://review.openstack.org/253067 | 20:52 |
| regXboi | carl_baldwin: let me check the logs, I don't think so | 20:53 |
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| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: you pinged me earlier. sorry, I was away for a bit | 20:53 |
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| regXboi | carl_baldwin: no, logs appear to indicate that the server waits to hear from the agent | 20:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Brian Haley proposed openstack/neutron: Correct return values for bridge.disable_ipv6() https://review.openstack.org/253067 | 20:55 |
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| carl_baldwin | So, if the agent missed that update and went straight to the delete, it wouldn't send those. | 20:55 |
| regXboi | carl_baldwin, amuller: so we are agreed to recast this as two code paths? If so, I can repurpose 251502 for that | 20:55 |
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| regXboi | carl_baldwin: yes | 20:56 |
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| carl_baldwin | regXboi: Sounds good. | 20:57 |
| regXboi | ok, honestly, then if you want to revert 240971, I won't (can't) stop you :) - since it's all going to get changed to the right design anyway :) | 20:58 |
| * regXboi goes back to the drawing board on the new patch | 20:58 | |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Remove pylint from the default list of tox targets https://review.openstack.org/252619 | 20:59 |
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| regXboi | amuller: given this change, I think I'm going to add some additional lifecycle tests to functional to make sure I get all the side cases correct | 21:01 |
| regXboi | amuller: does that make sense to you? | 21:01 |
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| regXboi | carl_baldwin, amuller: hold on a second | 21:07 |
| regXboi | I'm looking at what the router_info delete code does | 21:07 |
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| regXboi | oh, well, n/m | 21:08 |
| regXboi | I'm seeing things now | 21:08 |
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| dasm | regXboi: "I'm seeing things" sounds like "I see dead people" | 21:10 |
| dasm | eh... too much Sixth Sense | 21:10 |
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| regXboi | dasm: I got that reference :) | 21:10 |
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| * regXboi suffers from 70% of his brain capacity being tied up with music references (just ask dougwig) and 70% of what's left being tied up with movie and book quotes. | 21:11 | |
| * regXboi only functions at 9% capacity on a daily basis | 21:11 | |
| dasm | :D | 21:11 |
| dasm | so, 70% is tied to music, another 70% to movies, and rest 9% daily basis | 21:12 |
| dasm | it gives 149% :D | 21:12 |
| regXboi | no I said 70% of what's left | 21:12 |
| regXboi | 70% to music, 30%*70% = 21% to books and movies, 30%*30% = 9% to everything else :) | 21:12 |
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| dasm | gotcha | 21:13 |
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| dasm | just tried to be funny ;) | 21:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Remove Neutron core static example configuration files https://review.openstack.org/251348 | 21:13 |
| regXboi | dasm: sure | 21:13 |
| dasm | but it's too late here, so probably need to go sleep | 21:13 |
| * regXboi is funny all the time - fortunately there is medicine for that | 21:13 | |
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| amuller | regXboi: yeah if we're missing coverage in the l3 functional tests I'm all for adding more :) | 21:24 |
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| amuller | moar testing! | 21:24 |
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| regXboi | ack | 21:24 |
| krotscheck | Any core around to refresh the +A on the requirement bot patch? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/250564/ | 21:24 |
| krotscheck | It's finally passing again | 21:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Michali proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: Added constraints tox targets https://review.openstack.org/250390 | 21:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Michali proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Added constraints tox targets https://review.openstack.org/250406 | 21:26 |
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| krotscheck | dougwig: Thanks! | 21:32 |
| dougwig | krotscheck: yw | 21:32 |
| regXboi | carl_baldwin, amuller: this dual code path will go all the way to the device driver | 21:32 |
| regXboi | :( | 21:33 |
| salv-orlando | carl_baldwin: I've got some questions on address scopes, are you around? | 21:33 |
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| carl_baldwin | salv-orlando: I'm around. | 21:34 |
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| salv-orlando | carl_baldwin: you always are! | 21:35 |
| carl_baldwin | salv-orlando: smoke and mirrors | 21:35 |
| salv-orlando | carl_baldwin: the topmost patch in the series... you told me once you were planning to split it (I think). Is that still your intention | 21:35 |
| salv-orlando | carl_baldwin: we're all smoke and mirrors. Some more smole. some more mirrors. | 21:35 |
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| carl_baldwin | salv-orlando: I haven't had a change to decide which lines to split it on. | 21:36 |
| salv-orlando | carl_baldwin: I think it is ok as it honestly. As a reviewer I do not see a strong case for a split. | 21:36 |
| salv-orlando | I think that patch completes the features, is that right? | 21:36 |
| carl_baldwin | salv-orlando: Yes, I think so. | 21:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Ryan Tidwell proposed openstack/neutron: Add explicit address family to AddressScope https://review.openstack.org/233317 | 21:37 |
| regXboi | carl_baldwin: ignore me - I'm seeing ghosts again | 21:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | regXboi: how about pink elephants? | 21:38 |
| regXboi | Sam-I-Am: I don't have enough OH for that | 21:38 |
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| pc_m | sc68cal: hi | 21:38 |
| regXboi | Sam-I-Am: *yet* | 21:38 |
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| sc68cal | pc_m: about to split - what's up | 21:39 |
| pc_m | sc68cal: Can you review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/251521/ ? | 21:39 |
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| pc_m | sc68cal: tomorrow is fine | 21:39 |
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| sc68cal | pc_m: ok thanks | 21:40 |
| salv-orlando | carl_baldwin: one more question, regarding non-reference implementations. | 21:42 |
| salv-orlando | besides the changes in the address management logic address scope introduce, do we need to require other plugins to fulfill some requirement in their control plane | 21:43 |
| salv-orlando | I do not think so, but it's always better to ask | 21:43 |
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| carl_baldwin | salv-orlando: That's a good question. If another plugin implements the L3 extension... | 21:47 |
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| spandhe | carl_baldwin: Hi Carl, I added my comments on the spec | 21:48 |
| carl_baldwin | spandhe: Thanks. I can't seem to get off IRC long enough to look. :) | 21:49 |
| spandhe | carl_baldwin: no worries :) whenever you get time.. just questions, not urgent or anything | 21:50 |
| carl_baldwin | salv-orlando: The plugins will not have to do anything until they add the address scopes extension. | 21:50 |
| carl_baldwin | spandhe: Thanks. | 21:50 |
| salv-orlando | carl_baldwin: indeed my question was under the assumption that a plugin chose to support address scopes | 21:51 |
| carl_baldwin | salv-orlando: right. | 21:52 |
| salv-orlando | shall the plugin explicitly provide support for anything? From what I gather the management logic can be inherithed with the usual mixin approach... | 21:52 |
| carl_baldwin | salv-orlando: connecting routers to address scopes changes what routes where. | 21:52 |
| salv-orlando | carl_baldwin: but that does not change on-link routes, at least | 21:53 |
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| carl_baldwin | salv-orlando: that's right. | 21:53 |
| * salv-orlando reviews the API for understanding exactly how to connect a router to an address space... | 21:54 | |
| salv-orlando | meh scope | 21:54 |
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| salv-orlando | carl_baldwin: the difference is that when a subnet that belongs to an address scope (via the pool) is attached to a router, it is the address scope that determines the routing table for packets coming into that interface | 21:58 |
| salv-orlando | do I understand correctly? | 21:58 |
| carl_baldwin | salv-orlando: right | 21:59 |
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| salv-orlando | carl_baldwin: therefore if iinterface_1 "belong" to address scope A1, and interface_2 "belong" to address scope A2, interface_1 won't have an on-link route to interface_2 and vice versa... | 22:03 |
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| carl_baldwin | salv-orlando: my desktop client stopped updating. On mobile now. | 22:18 |
| carl_baldwin | salv-orlando: I'm not sure what it means for one interface to have an onlink route to another interface. | 22:20 |
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| carl_baldwin | salv-orlando: To me, an onlink route is a route to a subnet that the interface is directly connected to and doesn't need a gateway to send packets. | 22:23 |
| salv-orlando | carl_baldwin: correct. So in terms of control plane changes related to address scope, if you have two interfaces connected to the same router, you can still forward traffic between them even if the relevant subnets are from pools belonging to different address scopes | 22:26 |
| salv-orlando | that's what I am trying to understand now. I just would like to know what are the implications of adopting address scopes for a non-reference impl | 22:26 |
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| carl_baldwin | salv-orlando: There is something I'm not understanding in this scenario. What are these two interfaces? router interfaces? | 22:28 |
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| salv-orlando | carl_baldwin: yes, router interfaces. the ones you create with router-interface-add | 22:30 |
| salv-orlando | don't think about the l3 agent... let's think that we're integrating with some random backend that we don't know how it works | 22:30 |
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| carl_baldwin | salv-orlando: So, if there is no change in a non-ref impl, I'd expect that the router will forward between address scopes. | 22:32 |
| carl_baldwin | salv-orlando: Is that what you're getting at? | 22:33 |
| salv-orlando | carl_baldwin: just to make sure I'm following... we still need to attach the interfaces to a router for the time being, don't we? | 22:34 |
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| carl_baldwin | Yes. | 22:34 |
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| salv-orlando | carl_baldwin: cool, and a router can also handle multiple address scopes at the same time (that's what I gather from your l3 agent patch) | 22:34 |
| carl_baldwin | salv-orlando: yes, with the current limitation that the router can't handle connecting to overlapping IPs. | 22:35 |
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| salv-orlando | carl_baldwin: sure, I remember that. But the address scope is not providing a sort of isolation context within the router. A router is expected to forward traffic among different address scopes. | 22:36 |
| salv-orlando | this is the bit I have not yet fully understood | 22:36 |
| carl_baldwin | salv-orlando: No. Sending traffic to different routing tables is supposed to provide an isolation context. | 22:37 |
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| carl_baldwin | An exception is made for floating IP and SNATed traffic. | 22:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Assaf Muller proposed openstack/neutron: Add explanations and examples to TESTING.rst https://review.openstack.org/245984 | 22:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Assaf Muller proposed openstack/neutron: Moved fullstack test doc content to TESTING.rst https://review.openstack.org/245983 | 22:38 |
| salv-orlando | carl_baldwin: ah ok, so I was right ;) I did not understand what you meant by "forwarding between address scopes"! | 22:38 |
| salv-orlando | carl_baldwin: yes, the execeptions for routes on the gateway interface is undernstable | 22:38 |
| carl_baldwin | salv-orlando: Do I need to fix some wording somewhere that tripped you up? | 22:39 |
| salv-orlando | carl_baldwin: I think at some point we need to add this information to the devref for 3rd parties who want to support address scope, but that's not a priority atm | 22:39 |
| salv-orlando | carl_baldwin: nothing in your patches | 22:39 |
| salv-orlando | I misunderstood what you wrote earlier on here | 22:39 |
| salv-orlando | I thought with "between" you meant "across scopes" not "within a scope" | 22:39 |
| carl_baldwin | Oh, I see. I was saying that if a third party plugin doesn't prevent it then they will forward between address scopes. But, they shouldn't. | 22:40 |
| carl_baldwin | So, I did mean what you thought but in the context of a third party plugin that doesn't change to support address scopes. | 22:41 |
| carl_baldwin | salv-orlando: ^ | 22:41 |
| carl_baldwin | salv-orlando: I can add a change somewhere. This should be communicated to third parties. Where do you suggest? | 22:42 |
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| salv-orlando | I think 3rd party developers are supposed to look at the devref anyway, so that's one place | 22:46 |
| salv-orlando | the other place is the API specification. The expected behaviour should be stated there, as that's relevant to users as well | 22:46 |
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| salv-orlando | but I don't think you've already prepared the API spec for patch for this | 22:47 |
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| salv-orlando | honestly now I do not even where an API spec patch should be pushed to (they're published on the specs site) | 22:47 |
| carl_baldwin | salv-orlando: no, but I will start it. | 22:47 |
| salv-orlando | carl_baldwin: cool. I have no further questions... once those merge conflicts are solved I think all the patches can merge | 22:48 |
| carl_baldwin | salv-orlando: I can find out. We did some for subnet pools. | 22:48 |
| carl_baldwin | salv-orlando: thank you. I owe you something. | 22:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Swaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack/neutron: Tune _get_candidates for faster scheduling in dvr https://review.openstack.org/242286 | 22:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Remove version from setup.cfg https://review.openstack.org/251960 | 23:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Akihiro Motoki proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Setup for translation https://review.openstack.org/253248 | 23:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron-fwaas: Remove version from setup.cfg https://review.openstack.org/251961 | 23:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Doug Wiegley proposed openstack/neutron-lib: Initial list of constants https://review.openstack.org/253254 | 23:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hirofumi Ichihara proposed openstack/neutron: Add availability_zone support for router https://review.openstack.org/224418 | 23:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Doug Wiegley proposed openstack/neutron: Redirect shims for new neutron-lib routines https://review.openstack.org/242219 | 23:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Akihiro Motoki proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Ensure to use exception per status code for all cases https://review.openstack.org/253267 | 23:47 |
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