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| kevinbenton | boris-42: yo | 01:15 |
| kevinbenton | boris-42: what's up? | 01:15 |
| boris-42 | kevinbenton: how things are going? | 01:15 |
| boris-42 | kevinbenton: so I have some interesting spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/103825/7 | 01:15 |
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| boris-42 | kevinbenton: could you please review it ;) | 01:15 |
| kevinbenton | boris-42: sure. i'll check it out tonight | 01:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-neutronclient: Do not allow name lookups on RBAC policies https://review.openstack.org/248025 | 04:59 |
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| amotoki | reedip: pong what can i help you? | 05:03 |
| reedip | hi amotoki , just wanted an input | 05:03 |
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| reedip | amotoki: as per the comment which you mentioned in the RBAC patch, the functional tests are not covering a lot of things, which include create*, update*, delete* etc. | 05:04 |
| reedip | amotoki: should such functional tests be included in the neutronclient? ( I mean would it be a helpful feature , given that the amount of work done would be large) | 05:05 |
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| reedip | amotoki: Need your suggestion/advice for this | 05:05 |
| amotoki | reedip: at least what I can say is that we don't have such things. | 05:06 |
| amotoki | reedip: but I am not sure what is the real problem you are talking about. | 05:07 |
| amotoki | reedip: previously allow_name = True is set for RBAC. | 05:07 |
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| reedip | amotoki: ok ^^ | 05:08 |
| amotoki | reedip: are you saying that we should detect it by some test? | 05:08 |
| amotoki | reedip: in this case, if allow_name is set to False, find_resource_by_name is never called. | 05:09 |
| reedip | amotoki: What I wanted to say was that if the allow_names is becoming false now, then there should be some related test for the same. | 05:09 |
| reedip | amotoki: exactly, if the find_resource_by_name is not called, then maybe a test which validates it should be there , thats my point | 05:09 |
| amotoki | reedip: what kind of test? | 05:09 |
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| amotoki | reedip: more concrete example would be helpful. | 05:10 |
| reedip | amotoki: Thats what I was thinking about, maybe like a Unit test or something from the Shell.py level | 05:10 |
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| reedip | amotoki: but I guess you are correct in saying that this can be more properly be taken care on the Functional Tests level | 05:10 |
| amotoki | reedip: unit test does not know what API parameters really exists. In unit tests, all depends on what we write as tests. | 05:12 |
| amotoki | reedip: so it is a chiken/egg problem. | 05:12 |
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| amotoki | reedip: if we write wrong test, wrong code would pass the wrong test. hey OK??? | 05:12 |
| reedip | amotoki: What I feel is that such modifications ( like allow_name = False) or handling of capitalozation, or any operation which is done on the parameters before they are sent to the API call need to have a separate Test scenario. What I mean is that between the Actual API call taken care by the current UT, and the actual CLI call given in shell.py, we need another level which performs such validation. | 05:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Make sure we return unicode strings for process output https://review.openstack.org/244089 | 05:13 |
| reedip | amotoki: That can be taken care by improving the functional tests , though | 05:13 |
| amotoki | reedip: how can we ensure neutron API is correctly mirroed to neutronclient unit tests? | 05:14 |
| amotoki | reedip: neutron API is evolving and I am not sure we can manage two things... | 05:14 |
| amotoki | reedip: it sounds less productive approach, and we should explore more efficient way. | 05:15 |
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| reedip | amotoki: hmm... ok | 05:16 |
| amotoki | reedip: one thing to note. when I wrote my last three comments, I didn't read your comment "That can be taken care by improving the functional tests , though" | 05:19 |
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| reedip | amotoki: oh, so do you think that improving the functional test can be more productive for this case? | 05:19 |
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| reedip | amotoki: or such similar cases? | 05:20 |
| amotoki | reedip: apart from our review bandwidth, it sounds helpful... but I am not sure it deserves an effort. | 05:21 |
| amotoki | reedip: before moving it forward, it seems better to check approaches other clients adopt to prevent this kind of situations. | 05:22 |
| amotoki | reedip: if it is specific to neutronclient, we need to explore our own way | 05:22 |
| amotoki | reedip: but it is a last resort. | 05:22 |
| reedip | amotoki: Ok, let me do a bit of research for this | 05:22 |
| reedip | among other clients | 05:22 |
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| reedip | amotoki: I will get back with the relevant information | 05:24 |
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| reedip | amotoki: thanks for your time | 05:24 |
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| amotoki | reedip: i am afraid i have no enough time to discuss it deeply.... | 05:25 |
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| annp | amotoki: ping | 06:04 |
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| amotoki | annp: pong | 06:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jas Singh proposed openstack/neutron: Some minor misspellings in comment block. https://review.openstack.org/249020 | 06:12 |
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| annp | amotoki: I would like you take a look at Logging API specs: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203509/30/specs/mitaka/logging-API-for-security-group-rules.rst | 06:12 |
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| amotoki | annp: let me put yours in my regular review queue :) | 06:13 |
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| annp | yes, thanks a lot :). | 06:14 |
| annp | amotoki: I'm looking forward your comments. :) | 06:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Trinath Somanchi proposed openstack/neutron: Freescale ML2 driver code complete decomposition. https://review.openstack.org/249037 | 07:01 |
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| dasm | good morning | 07:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Trinath Somanchi proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: Freescale FWaaS Plugin code final decomposition. https://review.openstack.org/249044 | 07:11 |
| trinaths | HenryG: hi | 07:13 |
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| garyk1 | gsagie: yoyo | 07:51 |
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| trinaths | garyk1: hi, can you review this too , https://review.openstack.org/#/c/249044/ | 08:00 |
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| shz | ping garyk1 | 08:00 |
| garyk1 | trinaths: looking | 08:01 |
| garyk1 | trinaths: i have given it my thumbs up (not core in fwaas) | 08:01 |
| garyk1 | shz: whats up? | 08:01 |
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| shz | garyk1, could you help review this patch again https://review.openstack.org/#/c/240652/? | 08:02 |
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| garyk1 | shz: the code looks good. i suggest that we wait for carl to remove his -1. Alternatively you can update the commit message to indicate that there is a slight refactor | 08:04 |
| garyk1 | i like the code change | 08:04 |
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| shz | garyk1, I agree with you, I have reply carl's comments | 08:05 |
| garyk1 | tx | 08:05 |
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| trinaths | garyk1: okay, np :) | 08:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Add hosted agents list to dhcp agent scheduler https://review.openstack.org/246107 | 08:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Bo Chi proposed openstack/neutron: Minor doc fix in doc/source/devref/alembic_migrations.rst https://review.openstack.org/249066 | 08:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Bo Chi proposed openstack/neutron: Minor doc fix in alembic_migrations.rst https://review.openstack.org/249066 | 08:53 |
| yamamoto | trinaths: ping | 08:54 |
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| trinaths | yamamoto: pong | 09:04 |
| yamamoto | trinaths: i have a question about freescale fwaas plugin | 09:05 |
| yamamoto | trinaths: why does it set up rpc? does it have any agents? | 09:05 |
| annp | sc68cal: ping | 09:06 |
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| annp | sc68cal: Let's discuss about your comments on L#310 on Logging API specs at link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203509/30/specs/mitaka/logging-API-for-security-group-rules.rst | 09:08 |
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| trinaths | yamamoto: yes | 09:10 |
| gsagie | garyk: sup | 09:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Trinath Somanchi proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: Freescale FWaaS Plugin code final decomposition. https://review.openstack.org/249044 | 09:12 |
| ajo | garyk1 , shz : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/240652/11/neutron/db/db_base_plugin_v2.py | 09:13 |
| ajo | I added some comments | 09:13 |
| ajo | didn't want to vote to avoid being a PITA :) | 09:13 |
| shz | ajo, ack | 09:13 |
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| annp | sc68cal: I think we can use /etc/policy.json file to control accessible of Logging API. | 09:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Trinath Somanchi proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: Freescale FWaaS Plugin code final decomposition. https://review.openstack.org/249044 | 09:14 |
| annp | sc68cal: how do you think? | 09:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Trinath Somanchi proposed openstack/neutron: Freescale ML2 driver code complete decomposition. https://review.openstack.org/249037 | 09:17 |
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| shz | ajo, I have reply your comments on the patch, please read it, thx :) | 09:21 |
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| ajo | thanks shz, reading :) | 09:21 |
| ajo | shz , it seems that I didn't take enough coffee... you're right I think | 09:22 |
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| shz | np :) | 09:22 |
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| todin | can me someone help with the dynamic-bgp routing project? | 09:26 |
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| trinaths | yamamoto: you may visit ps-3 for you comment. | 09:31 |
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| yamamoto | trinaths: which patch? | 09:32 |
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| trinaths | yamamoto: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/249044/ | 09:38 |
| yamamoto | trinaths: it seems i did | 09:39 |
| trinaths | yamamoto: yes, just now checked. thank you | 09:42 |
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| itzikb | moshele: hi, submitted a new patchset https://review.openstack.org/#/c/217177/ . Please tell me what your CI think | 12:14 |
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| moshele | itzikb: sure :) | 12:14 |
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| ajo | rossella_s , ping | 12:33 |
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| ajo | about your dashboard script, | 12:33 |
| ajo | have you considered outputing the format of: https://github.com/openstack/gerrit-dash-creator/blob/master/dashboards/all-the-specs.dash | 12:33 |
| ajo | too | 12:33 |
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| ajo | so, we could create gerrit dashboard links with the gerrit-dash-creator? | 12:34 |
| ajo | we could even setup some periodic job to run your dashboard script, the dash creator and update a shortened link ;) | 12:34 |
| ajo | that'd be very useful, | 12:34 |
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| rossella_s | ajo I am not getting what you mean exactly regarding the all-the-specs.dash | 12:36 |
| ajo | rossella_s : do you know the gerrit-dash-creator? | 12:36 |
| rossella_s | ajo regarding the periodic job, I agree it would be useful | 12:36 |
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| rossella_s | ajo yes | 12:36 |
| ajo | rossella_s : it takes the .dash, and creates a url | 12:36 |
| rossella_s | yep | 12:36 |
| ajo | I was expecting to get your script output and plug it into it | 12:36 |
| ajo | :D | 12:36 |
| rossella_s | that's what it does | 12:37 |
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| ajo | but I discovered it's for pasting into gerrit itself, if I didn't get it wrong | 12:37 |
| ajo | hmmm | 12:37 |
| ajo | rossella_s , it doesn't work for me... hmm | 12:37 |
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| rossella_s | it creates a .dash file | 12:37 |
| ajo | may be I did something wrong, and also it didn't look like the dash-creator format | 12:37 |
| rossella_s | mitaka-1.dash | 12:37 |
| ajo | crap | 12:37 |
| ajo | XDDD | 12:37 |
| ajo | sorry | 12:37 |
| rossella_s | it works for me, let me know | 12:37 |
| ajo | rossella_s : I was doing this python tools/milestone-review-dash.py | tee milestone-dash.dash | 12:37 |
| ajo | :) | 12:38 |
| rossella_s | :) | 12:38 |
| rossella_s | well I can add a line in the output explaining this | 12:38 |
| rossella_s | the output is if you want to search in gerrit directly | 12:38 |
| rossella_s | the file is for gerrit-dash-creator :) | 12:38 |
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| hichihara | armax: Please review AZ again. | 13:03 |
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| ajo | rossella_s : that sounds like a good idea to avoid other kamikazes like me | 13:07 |
| ajo | ':D | 13:07 |
| ajo | indeed it works when properly used | 13:07 |
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| tess_rick | Hi, I am hitting an issue with Lb/vxlan jumbo MTU. I see MTUs getting properly configured everywhere except on the host bridges and tap interfaces that are outside VM. | 13:17 |
| tess_rick | any idea why is this happening? | 13:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/neutron: API: validate that configured subnet is not a reserved network https://review.openstack.org/249205 | 13:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/neutron: API: validate that configured subnet is not a reserved network https://review.openstack.org/249205 | 13:28 |
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| HenryG | akamyshnikova: ping | 13:29 |
| akamyshnikova | HenryG, hi | 13:29 |
| HenryG | akamyshnikova: did you see https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1519171 ? | 13:29 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1519171 in neutron "model-migration check fails to detect integer-biginteger mismatch" [Medium,New] - Assigned to Bo Chi (bochi-michael) | 13:29 |
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| akamyshnikova | HenryG, no, I missed that | 13:31 |
| ihrachys | HenryG: akamyshnikova: thanks for hopping on it, it disturbed me yesterday. :) | 13:32 |
| ihrachys | HenryG: are you aware of anyone working on API tests reenablement? | 13:32 |
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| ihrachys | garyk: I see you pushed a patch that messes with API code. are you aware API job is currently not running any tests? | 13:32 |
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| HenryG | ihrachys: api tests are disabled? | 13:35 |
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| ihrachys | HenryG: effectively yes http://logs.openstack.org/79/222079/17/check/gate-neutron-dsvm-api/7032aa1/testr_results.html.gz | 13:36 |
| HenryG | akamyshnikova: please help the assignee if needed. I am not sure they know enough to solve the problem. | 13:36 |
| ihrachys | HenryG: there was a bug for that reported by amuller, I need to look | 13:37 |
| ihrachys | HenryG: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1518632 | 13:37 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1518632 in neutron "API tests skipped at the gate" [Critical,Confirmed] | 13:37 |
| HenryG | ihrachys: oh yeah, I did know about that | 13:37 |
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| garyk1 | ihrachys: sorry but i do not follow. this is covered by the unit tests | 13:37 |
| ihrachys | yeah, you even triaged :) | 13:37 |
| HenryG | yes, I was thinking you meant the job is disabled :) | 13:38 |
| ihrachys | garyk1: sure. it just bothers me we don't have plan to re-enable those tests, and I beleive it should be prio | 13:38 |
| HenryG | ihrachys: that's really bad. I'll take it up in the drivers meeting | 13:39 |
| akamyshnikova | HenryG, OK, sure, but I'm not sure this a Neutron bug though. | 13:39 |
| ihrachys | HenryG: yeah, I also go there this time | 13:39 |
| HenryG | akamyshnikova: if you can comment on the bug, that would be great | 13:40 |
| ihrachys | akamyshnikova: probably not. but we have strings to pull to make it happen. | 13:40 |
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| akamyshnikova | HenryG, I will | 13:45 |
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| amuller | ihrachys: We discussed yesterday changing the hardcoded path to whatever the gate expects it from as a permanent stopgap :) | 13:51 |
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| ihrachys | amuller: do we have anything beyond discussion? are you working on it, or it's more wise for me to push the patch and check how gate behaves? | 13:53 |
| amuller | ihrachys: the latter | 13:53 |
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| ihrachys | amuller: aye captain. I should have avoided those redundant question marks. | 13:54 |
| amuller | ihrachys: sorry my day job is extra demanding these days | 13:54 |
| ihrachys | amuller: I tell ya | 13:55 |
| ihrachys | :) | 13:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hong Hui Xiao proposed openstack/neutron: Wait for the watch process in test case https://review.openstack.org/249232 | 14:08 |
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| amuller | jschwarz: are you aware of https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1519160? | 14:18 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1519160 in neutron "unit test intermittent failure" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Hong Hui Xiao (xiaohhui) | 14:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: tox: pass TEMPEST_CONFIG_DIR envvar into api target environment https://review.openstack.org/249234 | 14:19 |
| ihrachys | amuller: HenryG: I hope that's it ^ | 14:19 |
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| amuller | ihrachys: well, it either runs the api tests or it doesn't :) | 14:21 |
| ihrachys | itzikb: I am still working with infra on getting the gate hook | 14:21 |
| ihrachys | amuller: 'xactly | 14:21 |
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| jschwarz | amuller, I am now | 14:28 |
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| akamyshnikova | ihrachys, alembic compares types, not Neutron, why do you think it is Neuton problem? | 14:39 |
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| njohnston | armax: How can I get an RFE bug on the list to review in the neutron-drivers meeting? | 14:49 |
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| ihrachys | akamyshnikova: I don't think it's a neutron issue. but we are interested in catching it, so we probably want to track that limitation with zzzeek | 14:51 |
| ihrachys | akamyshnikova: and after it's implemented in alembic, we may need to fix some models etc., so it would make sense to track it in neutron too | 14:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-neutronclient: Move the old release notes to a separate file https://review.openstack.org/248932 | 14:54 |
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| mhickey | Sam-I-Am: Howdy | 14:59 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mhickey: moo | 15:01 |
| mhickey | Sam-I-Am: Have you made it home for Thanksgiving? | 15:02 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yes | 15:02 |
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| mhickey | Sam-I-Am: Excellent. I must get to the states sometime for the celebration. I have cousins I could visit!:) | 15:03 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i'll be working on your patch in a bit | 15:03 |
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| mhickey | Sam-I-Am: sure, np. I think I have it at a good base when I delivered last night. I just have to look at the reno part now. | 15:07 |
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| amuller | jschwarz: I don't understand your last comment here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/234941/ | 15:18 |
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| amuller | jschwarz: how does it know =p | 15:18 |
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| jschwarz | amuller, ovs holds a directory with all the unix sockets | 15:18 |
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| amuller | jschwarz: for example if two different ovs fixtures create a bridge with the same name 'tmp', and you do ovs-ofctl dump-flows 'tmp' | 15:19 |
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| jschwarz | it's like a mapping of <bridge_name> -> controlling socket | 15:19 |
| amuller | but bridge_name is only unique within an ovs db | 15:19 |
| amuller | not across dbs | 15:19 |
| jschwarz | amuller, ah. I assume we're not using the same bridge name since all names are randomly generated | 15:19 |
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| jschwarz | ie. text-%s where %s is some 8/9-chars hex number | 15:19 |
| amuller | jschwarz: this is suspicious... you wanna check it manually via cli? | 15:19 |
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| jschwarz | amuller, which part? | 15:20 |
| jschwarz | amuller, the folder? I ran 'sudo strace ovs-ofctl ...' a while back and this is the result | 15:20 |
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| amuller | jschwarz: your explanation doesn't make sense to me, because bridge names are not unique across different ovs dbs | 15:20 |
| carl_baldwin | anilvenkata: pong | 15:20 |
| jschwarz | amuller, run 'ls /var/run/openvswitch/' on your devstack machine | 15:21 |
| jschwarz | amuller, I think the ovs dev guys didn't consider the use-case of more than one ovs pairs on the same machine... | 15:21 |
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| amuller | jschwarz: I can imagine some meeting of a room of fellas saying 'meh, that'll never happen' | 15:22 |
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| jschwarz | amuller, it's like saying "openstack? it will never run on windows!", but we still have 'neutron/agent/linux | 15:22 |
| jschwarz | XD | 15:22 |
| amuller | jschwarz: So I see there's a dir with sockets | 15:23 |
| amuller | jschwarz: Where did you get the mapping idea | 15:23 |
| jschwarz | amuller, either way my setup is missing that /var/run/openvswitch folder for some reason so I'm depressed | 15:23 |
| amuller | lol | 15:23 |
| jschwarz | amuller, creating a new bridge adds a new file to that folder | 15:23 |
| amuller | ah ha | 15:23 |
| amuller | so it's per bridge not per ovs-db | 15:23 |
| amuller | ok | 15:23 |
| amuller | oookkkk | 15:23 |
| jschwarz | amuller, strace ovs-ofctl dump-flows <br> shows that it's looking directly at that folder for the unix socket | 15:23 |
| jschwarz | ok ^_^ | 15:23 |
| itzikb | ihrachys: Saw that , thanks a lot | 15:24 |
| amuller | jschwarz: still lots of work ahead if we go with the namespaces solution | 15:24 |
| jschwarz | yeah | 15:24 |
| jschwarz | also it seems that on my new fedora22 that folder is not created | 15:24 |
| jschwarz | debugging shortly | 15:24 |
| amuller | I wonder if we could segment namespaces somehow also :) | 15:24 |
| amuller | not use /var/run/netns for all of the namespaces or something | 15:25 |
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| jschwarz | amuller, nevermind, creating the folder filled the directory with unix socket files | 15:25 |
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| jschwarz | amuller, meh :p | 15:25 |
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| amuller | I really want nested namespaces | 15:25 |
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| amuller | I thought containers would push that | 15:26 |
| amuller | maybe they did and I'm out of date | 15:26 |
| jschwarz | amuller, http://i.imgur.com/c4jt321.png?fb | 15:26 |
| * amuller goes googling | 15:26 | |
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| amuller | jschwarz: hah | 15:26 |
| amuller | jschwarz: that's Neutron in the Havana days | 15:26 |
| jschwarz | amuller, credits to abregman | 15:26 |
| amuller | or Quantum :) | 15:26 |
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| jschwarz | amuller, so going ahead the main issue is that IPDevice() is most of the time called without namespace, so most 'ip link' commands would fail on the ovs agent | 15:27 |
| abregman | jschwarz: why did you cut it?: http://i.imgur.com/kJscbmh.png | 15:27 |
| jschwarz | and that is something that's done a lot IMO | 15:28 |
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| amuller | jschwarz: yeah, we really don't want the namespaces solution | 15:29 |
| jschwarz | amuller, there's no other solution | 15:29 |
| jschwarz | IMO | 15:30 |
| amuller | jschwarz: I wouldn't say that | 15:30 |
| jschwarz | I can explain why in a minute | 15:30 |
| amuller | jschwarz: did you talk to an ovs dev about one ovs instance deleting bridges of another instance? | 15:30 |
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| jschwarz | amuller, yeps | 15:32 |
| jschwarz | amuller, he said that's probably because we are using more than one dpif driver (ie. ovsdb-server if I understood him correctly) | 15:33 |
| jschwarz | amuller, he advised me to use namespaces.. I can mail you the log | 15:33 |
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| amuller | jschwarz: please do | 15:34 |
| jschwarz | amuller, doing | 15:34 |
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| jschwarz | amuller, done | 15:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sridhar Gaddam proposed openstack/neutron: Support for IPv6 RDNSS Option in Router Advts https://review.openstack.org/236805 | 15:38 |
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| regXboi | armax, salv-orlando: ping - is there a "how-to" on putting together a new agent? | 15:49 |
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| yalie | ping kevinbenton | 16:00 |
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| kevinbenton | yalie: pong | 16:01 |
| hanzhang | ping carl_baldwin | 16:02 |
| carl_baldwin | hanzhang: pong | 16:02 |
| hanzhang | carl_baldwin, could you help to review this patch again https://review.openstack.org/#/c/240652/? | 16:02 |
| vthapar | tmorin: hi | 16:03 |
| vthapar | tmorin: going through meeting logs. | 16:03 |
| ihrachys | amuller: HenryG: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/249234/ does the thing | 16:04 |
| ihrachys | mestery: ^ | 16:04 |
| ihrachys | mestery: the thing that blocks L release | 16:04 |
| mestery | ihrachys: Thanks! | 16:04 |
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| carl_baldwin | hanzhang: Yes, I will take another look. | 16:04 |
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| hanzhang | carl_baldwin, thx :) | 16:05 |
| yalie | hello kevinbenton I am implenting the limited-portsec, and got some problem | 16:05 |
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| HenryG | thanks ihrachys! | 16:06 |
| yalie | kevinbenton: that is limited-portsec is another port extension but related to the port-sec | 16:06 |
| vthapar | tmorin: I'll send out a mail later with status? | 16:06 |
| tmorin | vthapar: that would work | 16:07 |
| tmorin | vthapar: can also comment in one of the two gerrit changes if you want | 16:07 |
| yalie | if I implentment it in an individual extension, there will be limitation that the order of the extesnion looped. | 16:07 |
| vthapar | tmorin: alright, cya then. | 16:07 |
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| yalie | kevinbenton: that's where to put the verification code, portsec or limit-portsec | 16:08 |
| yalie | or both | 16:08 |
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| yalie | or create a general extension to handle it. | 16:08 |
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| kevinbenton | yalie: which verification? | 16:08 |
| tmorin | vthapar: see you ! | 16:09 |
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| yalie | kevinbenton: something like, when portsec=True, limited-portsec would not be "mac-spoofing" | 16:09 |
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| yalie | I think only when portsec= False, the limited-portsec will be meaningful | 16:10 |
| yalie | so there is a relationship between them | 16:10 |
| kevinbenton | yalie: other way around i think. portsec=False is the way to disable everything | 16:10 |
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| kevinbenton | yalie: porsec=True means ther is some port security | 16:10 |
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| kevinbenton | yalie: and the other limited-portsec would define what that is | 16:11 |
| kevinbenton | yalie: because portsec=False is a way for clients to be certain that there is no filtering | 16:11 |
| kevinbenton | yalie: so you can't have some filtering with that == False | 16:11 |
| yalie | thanks kevinbenton, yes, and it's the same that limited-portsec should work only when portsec- True | 16:12 |
| kevinbenton | yalie: so you just need a check in the limited-portsec extension that checks if portsec=False and then gives an error if it is | 16:12 |
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| kevinbenton | yalie: the regular port sec extension shouldn't need any changes | 16:12 |
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| kevinbenton | yalie: in the limited-portsec you should be able to subscript to port updates and clear the limited-portsec if portsec is ever set to False | 16:13 |
| kevinbenton | subscribe* | 16:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Sreekumar S proposed openstack/neutron: Disabling/Re-enabling ML2 type driver create orphan n/w segments https://review.openstack.org/245137 | 16:14 |
| Sam-I-Am | kevinbenton: ping | 16:15 |
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| manjeets | is their a way to enable disable port-security while neutron service is running ? | 16:15 |
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| yalie | kevinbenton: emm... suppose that --portsec=False but --limit-ps='mac-spoofing', there will be a exception from limit-ps ? | 16:16 |
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| yalie | manjeets: I think no, the extension is write in config file | 16:18 |
| kevinbenton | yalie: manjeets. yes! | 16:18 |
| kevinbenton | that's the whole point of the extension | 16:18 |
| kevinbenton | it can be selectively enabled and disabled for ports and networks | 16:18 |
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| kevinbenton | yalie: in your example the limit-portsec should raise an exception | 16:19 |
| yalie | oh, I though you want to disable the extension | 16:19 |
| yalie | kevinbenton: thanks! | 16:19 |
| kevinbenton | manjeets, yalie: oh right. do you mean enable the extension or enable port security on a port? | 16:20 |
| manjeets | i want to test something for a same network with port-security enabled or disabled | 16:20 |
| manjeets | i mean extension | 16:20 |
| yalie | kevinbenton: could I update the current networkingportsebing db schema ? | 16:20 |
| manjeets | i see in ml2.conf in extension=port-security | 16:20 |
| kevinbenton | manjeets: right, disabling the entire extension is via config | 16:21 |
| yalie | manjeets: I think we can't dynamicly disable/enable it | 16:21 |
| kevinbenton | yalie: yes, you can update the existing schema | 16:21 |
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| yalie | kevinbenton: thank you, kevin! | 16:21 |
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| manjeets | kevinbenton: ill try that | 16:22 |
| manjeets | thanks | 16:22 |
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| amuller | ihrachys: btw it's amazing the api tests still pass after being turned off for a week | 16:23 |
| amuller | I was sure some test(s) would fail | 16:24 |
| ihrachys | amuller: I need to backport it to stable branches too and validate there | 16:24 |
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| ihrachys | though I believe it should be safe if it's not broken in master | 16:24 |
| amuller | ihrachys: most likely | 16:24 |
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| ihrachys | armax: have some time? | 16:25 |
| davidsha | Anyone available for a quick developer question? | 16:25 |
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| dasm | davidsha: don't ask to ask, just ask ;) | 16:28 |
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| davidsha | dasm: Fair enough, I'm trying to add a new flow with run_ofctl and it keeps getting deleted, I was told neutron can periodically delete flows it doesn't recognize. Is there any way to stop it? | 16:29 |
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| dasm | davidsha: first thing i'd check: disable neutron and wait few secs/minutes -- depends how long does it take to "delete" flow. | 16:30 |
| dasm | if it stays, probably neutron messes. | 16:30 |
| dasm | next step: check why it's deleted, by looking through the code | 16:31 |
| dasm | unfortunately, i do not have an experience with run_ofctl | 16:31 |
| davidsha | dasm: It's immediate, I'm reading the logs and a few commands later it calls "del-flows -" | 16:31 |
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| dasm | davidsha: if you have some logs, you can try to look where it's called. and later, analyze code, why it's deleted. | 16:33 |
| davidsha | dasm: Ok, thanks I tried going code diving but it appears it should only do it when br-int is restarted. But it seems a bit frequent to be that... | 16:33 |
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| dasm | davidsha: mhm.. | 16:33 |
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| davidsha | dasm: There are other guys working on something similar to this, I'll check with them if they've encountered this and if they got around it. Thanks for the help! | 16:35 |
| dasm | davidsha: no problem. | 16:35 |
| dasm | davidsha: good luck | 16:36 |
| davidsha | dasm: Thanks :) | 16:36 |
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| Sam-I-Am | kevinbenton: can i ask you a q about metadata? | 16:44 |
| kevinbenton | Sam-I-Am: sure | 16:45 |
| Sam-I-Am | with enable_isolated_metadata on, it would seem that 169.254.169.254 resides in the dhcp namespace | 16:45 |
| Sam-I-Am | at least for networks without routers | 16:45 |
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| Sam-I-Am | for networks with routers, it would use iptables magic in the router namespace to get to 169.254.169.254 | 16:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | at least thats how the config file docs seem to read | 16:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | http://docs.openstack.org/liberty/config-reference/content/section_neutron-dhcp_agent.ini.html | 16:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | beginning on line 46 in there | 16:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron-fwaas: Freescale FWaaS Plugin code final decomposition. https://review.openstack.org/249044 | 16:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | however, i'm noticing that with enable_isolated_metadata, the 169 IP always resides in the dhcp namespace and dhcp always injects the route regardless of a router presence | 16:48 |
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| jschwarz | Sam-I-Am, is this re: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1450548 ? | 16:50 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1450548 in neutron "Some VMs get a bad metadata route " [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Cedric Brandily (cbrandily) | 16:50 |
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| jschwarz | Sam-I-Am, anyway the idea is that DHCP doesn't *always* inject the static routes - only when it notices that the subnet it's serving doesn't have a neutron router attached to it | 16:51 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah, that bug is about right, but i hadnt looked at it until now | 16:52 |
| jschwarz | Sam-I-Am, (if a subnet has no neutron router it is considered 'isolated') | 16:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | this was my own observation for another issue | 16:52 |
| jschwarz | what issue, if I may ask? | 16:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | well, noticing that the dhcp agent injects the static route even if the network has a router (is not isolated) | 16:52 |
| kevinbenton | Sam-I-Am: sorry about the delay | 16:53 |
| jschwarz | Sam-I-Am, :O | 16:53 |
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| Sam-I-Am | this came up from trying to monitor metadata agent bits | 16:53 |
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| Sam-I-Am | and trying to determine the possible combinations to expect | 16:53 |
| kevinbenton | Sam-I-Am: right, there is another option to force it to always be via the DHCP agent IIRC to work with other l3 plugins | 16:53 |
| kevinbenton | Sam-I-Am: that don't have support for metadata (e.g. real physical routers) | 16:53 |
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| Sam-I-Am | kevinbenton: is that the default when you set enable_isolated_metadata? | 16:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | dhcp always injects the route? | 16:54 |
| kevinbenton | Sam-I-Am: no, i think that should only be forced when this is set https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/etc/dhcp_agent.ini#L38 | 16:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | jschwarz: it seems that bug talks about changing how it works when you add a router to an existing network | 16:54 |
| kevinbenton | Sam-I-Am: there may be some race condition with enable_isolated_metadata | 16:54 |
| jschwarz | Sam-I-Am, aye. | 16:55 |
| kevinbenton | Sam-I-Am: if you create the network and the subnet, the dhcp agent sets everything up right away | 16:55 |
| Sam-I-Am | kevinbenton: ahh interesting | 16:55 |
| kevinbenton | Sam-I-Am: so isolated metadata would take effect | 16:55 |
| Sam-I-Am | before it knows there is a router | 16:55 |
| kevinbenton | Sam-I-Am: and then you attach the router | 16:55 |
| kevinbenton | right | 16:55 |
| Sam-I-Am | ahh now it makes sense | 16:55 |
| kevinbenton | Sam-I-Am: so i think that bug is the same thing | 16:55 |
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| Sam-I-Am | so the text around the option is theoretically correct, but it just doesnt work that way | 16:56 |
| Sam-I-Am | right. | 16:56 |
| jschwarz | kevinbenton, but attaching a router results in a port_added event, which is supposed to update the dnsmasq options to remove the static routes | 16:56 |
| kevinbenton | jschwarz: which is what that bug is going to fix, right? | 16:56 |
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| Sam-I-Am | jschwarz: i would assume the client would only learn about those routing updates when it talks to dhcp again? | 16:56 |
| Sam-I-Am | since dhcp doesnt push | 16:56 |
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| jschwarz | kevinbenton, yep | 16:56 |
| kevinbenton | Sam-I-Am: yes | 16:56 |
| Sam-I-Am | i wonder how various clients will handle that | 16:57 |
| kevinbenton | Sam-I-Am: you would have to wait for a dhcp refresh if a client was booted before the router was attached | 16:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | ok. i'd hope that most people would have their networks complete before booting an instance, but you never know. | 16:57 |
| jschwarz | Sam-I-Am, as kevinbenton said - that's what that bug is about | 16:57 |
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| kevinbenton | Sam-I-Am: yeah. perhaps we need to make sure the DHCP agent still responds to metadata even though it's not pushing the routes | 16:58 |
| jschwarz | enable_isolated_metadata should really start being aware of L3 :< | 16:58 |
| kevinbenton | Sam-I-Am: that way clients with stale routes don't get thrown under the bus | 16:58 |
| kevinbenton | jschwarz: well in this case there isn't a way for it to know if the tenant is planning on creating a router | 16:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | kevinbenton: i think it would respond now, just stuff wouldnt know how to get to it | 16:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | it has the ip address | 16:58 |
| kevinbenton | Sam-I-Am: but is the process running? i know under some conditions it isn't | 16:59 |
| jschwarz | kevinbenton, but once the router is added it should keep supplying metadata for existing instances (as you said | 16:59 |
| jschwarz | ) | 16:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | kevinbenton: the md process? | 16:59 |
| kevinbenton | jschwarz: +1 | 16:59 |
| kevinbenton | Sam-I-Am: yeah | 16:59 |
| jschwarz | ZZelle, ^ | 16:59 |
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| jschwarz | ZZelle, re: the enable_isolated_metadata bug | 17:00 |
| kevinbenton | Sam-I-Am: i remember when i was looking at this a cycle ago or so there was some logic that didn't setup the unix socket or something | 17:00 |
| kevinbenton | Sam-I-Am: but i don't remember the details | 17:00 |
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| Sam-I-Am | kevinbenton: so, a case where the dhcp agent has the 169 IP, but theres no md agent listening in the ns? | 17:00 |
| kevinbenton | Sam-I-Am: yeah | 17:00 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i havent seen that case before | 17:00 |
| kevinbenton | Sam-I-Am: ok. maybe it's not an issue | 17:01 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i wonder if when you add a router, it also adds the iptables magic for md | 17:01 |
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| * Sam-I-Am looks | 17:02 | |
| ihrachys | mhickey: I am sorry I was overburdened today to check your patch. | 17:02 |
| ihrachys | mhickey: hopefully tomorrow | 17:02 |
| Sam-I-Am | ihrachys: sounds like every day | 17:03 |
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| ihrachys | Sam-I-Am: not really. sometimes it's only <10 tasks to do, and then I am free for the dance | 17:03 |
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| Sam-I-Am | kevinbenton: looks like the router does have a nat rule for md | 17:04 |
| mhickey | ihrachys: Not a bother; you have been giving me great help. :) | 17:04 |
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| mhickey | ihrachys: I think patch is getting there. Sam-I-Am is going to do some description updates and I am starting to look at reno. | 17:05 |
| kevinbenton | Sam-I-Am: right | 17:05 |
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| Sam-I-Am | just the dhcp stuff overrides that magic | 17:05 |
| jschwarz | Sam-I-Am, yeps | 17:06 |
| kevinbenton | Sam-I-Am: yeah, if dhcp agent distributes a route, the VM will prefer that one | 17:06 |
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| ihrachys | mhickey: cool. I hope I will not be late to the approval party :D | 17:07 |
| Sam-I-Am | ihrachys: it might be a bit to get those descriptions right | 17:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | i wish non-cores could set WIP | 17:08 |
| mhickey | ihrachys: not a bother; i will keep the bar open! :) | 17:09 |
| mhickey | Sam-I-Am: hope I have done it right? | 17:09 |
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| ihrachys | Sam-I-Am: I think they can? | 17:09 |
| ihrachys | Sam-I-Am: for their own patches | 17:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | mhickey: do you see the ability to set workflow to -1? | 17:10 |
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| mhickey | Sam-I-Am: yes; i have been using it | 17:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | mhickey: i see it as code-review -1 | 17:10 |
| mhickey | i did forget it last night at midnight though! | 17:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | which is different | 17:11 |
| mhickey | ok, my bad | 17:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | so you see the normal wip? | 17:11 |
| mhickey | Sam-I-Am: where should I see workflow -1? | 17:12 |
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| dasm | Sam-I-Am: mhickey: | 17:12 |
| dasm | Workflow: | 17:12 |
| Sam-I-Am | when you hit 'reply' | 17:12 |
| dasm | 0 Ready for reviews | 17:12 |
| dasm | -1 Work in progress | 17:12 |
| Sam-I-Am | theres some options | 17:12 |
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| dasm | mhickey: "Add comment" | 17:12 |
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| mhickey | dasm, Sam-I-Am: I only see "Code-Review" options. Maybe it is because I am not original owner? | 17:13 |
| dasm | mhickey: yes, you need to be owner to set -1 for workflow | 17:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | kevinbenton jschwarz so in the case of the docs in the config file, should we say what enable_isolated_metadata actually does or what it does in theory? | 17:14 |
| Sam-I-Am | ahh maybe thats it | 17:14 |
| kevinbenton | Sam-I-Am: what do the docs say it does? | 17:14 |
| jschwarz | Sam-I-Am, the docs are correct for the 'static' case where no router is added/removed | 17:14 |
| jschwarz | the in-between is the problem ;-) | 17:15 |
| Sam-I-Am | kevinbenton: they imply that it only enables dhcp route injection when the network has no router | 17:15 |
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| Sam-I-Am | which it does... only it doesnt know when a router is added. | 17:15 |
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| mhickey | dasm: thanks | 17:15 |
| dasm | mhickey: np | 17:16 |
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| mhickey | Sam-I-Am: Sorry but misinterpreted I was doing WIP correctly. What do you want to do with the patch for WIP? | 17:17 |
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| Sam-I-Am | oh, its just the regular way people would mark a patch as 'still working on this' vs. using self-inflicted -1 code review | 17:19 |
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| Sam-I-Am | jschwarz: got time for another question? | 17:19 |
| jschwarz | Sam-I-Am, sure do | 17:19 |
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| Sam-I-Am | turns out horizon doesn't work without at least one entry in 'service_plugins' in neutron.conf ... typically 'router' | 17:20 |
| Sam-I-Am | for true provider-only networking, we set service_plugins to an empty set which breaks horizon | 17:20 |
| jschwarz | Sam-I-Am, you mean that horizon depends on L3 Routing in neutron? | 17:20 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah | 17:20 |
| jschwarz | lol. | 17:20 |
| Sam-I-Am | otherwise it dies horribly | 17:20 |
| jschwarz | Sam-I-Am, I'm actually laughing. | 17:21 |
| Sam-I-Am | i'm crying | 17:21 |
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| jschwarz | Sam-I-Am, so what's the question? | 17:21 |
| Sam-I-Am | question is should the networking and install guide just use 'service_plugins = router' for provider networking or hope horizon fixes the problem and continue fending off the docs bugs that get filed | 17:22 |
| Sam-I-Am | or put a note in there that points to the horizon bug | 17:22 |
| Sam-I-Am | which then means i need to track more bugs... | 17:22 |
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| jschwarz | Sam-I-Am, I don't think the docs should point to bug reports... that's just not user-friendly which we claim to be | 17:23 |
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| jschwarz | Sam-I-Am, Also I think it's something Horizon needs to answer. I'd go with opening a bug in Horizon's launchpad and let them decide if the docs should be changed or the bug should be fixed | 17:23 |
| jschwarz | I think it should be the latter, anyway. | 17:23 |
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| Sam-I-Am | there is a horizon bug | 17:24 |
| jschwarz | Sam-I-Am, link? | 17:25 |
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| Sam-I-Am | looking for it | 17:26 |
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| jschwarz | Sam-I-Am, https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1457598 ? | 17:26 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1457598 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "Horizon unable to change quotas if routers extension is disabled in neutron" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Liyingjun (liyingjun) | 17:26 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yeah, thats about as close as it gets | 17:27 |
| Sam-I-Am | i dont see one for the bigger issue | 17:27 |
| jschwarz | Sam-I-Am, also the patch was not updated since June | 17:28 |
| jschwarz | that's 5 months? | 17:28 |
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| jschwarz | oh, the joy! | 17:28 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yep | 17:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jakub Libosvar proposed openstack/neutron: Add firewall blink + remote SG functional tests https://review.openstack.org/197468 | 17:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Jakub Libosvar proposed openstack/neutron: Add test cases to testing firewall drivers https://review.openstack.org/191148 | 17:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Jakub Libosvar proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] openvswitch-firewall driver https://review.openstack.org/249337 | 17:29 |
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| Sam-I-Am | jschwarz: so... does horizon need a new, more generic bug? | 17:30 |
| jschwarz | Sam-I-Am, I think we're better off escalating that bug report to a more significant importance and seek out some Horizon cores to alert them of the situation | 17:31 |
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| Sam-I-Am | the horizon bug or the docs bug? | 17:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1515572 | 17:33 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1515572 in openstack-manuals "Networking Option 1: Provider networks in Installation Guide, floating IPs list throw 404 error" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 17:33 |
| jschwarz | horizon bug | 17:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | thats the one that pinged me | 17:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | which i can go test in my lab... | 17:33 |
| jschwarz | it's not a doc problem since the code *should* work | 17:34 |
| Sam-I-Am | true, just wondering which bug we should escalate to horizon. i can tag that project in the docs bug | 17:34 |
| jschwarz | hence it's a horizon issue and it should be brought up to their cores so they can re-assign as needed and get this fixed :) | 17:34 |
| jschwarz | Sam-I-Am, sounds like a plan | 17:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sam Betts proposed openstack/neutron: Enhanced Network/Subnet DHCP Options https://review.openstack.org/248931 | 17:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Sam Betts proposed openstack/neutron: Allow unknown hosts to be served by neutron dhcp https://review.openstack.org/249339 | 17:36 |
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| Sam-I-Am | jschwarz: just did some testing here and horizon breaks in interesting ways | 17:42 |
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| jschwarz | Sam-I-Am, define interesting ;-) | 17:42 |
| garyk | kevinbenton: can you please add an example to https://review.openstack.org/222079 if possible | 17:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | it'll show you existing networks, but wont let you create any. topology throws an interesting internal error, and routers just says 'cant get list of routers' | 17:43 |
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| jschwarz | Sam-I-Am, "interesting internal error" is probably because horizon's debugging is enabled | 17:44 |
| Sam-I-Am | i dont have debugging specifically enabled | 17:44 |
| jschwarz | still, bugs :) | 17:44 |
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| Sam-I-Am | it just says "oops, something went wrong" | 17:44 |
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| jschwarz | ah | 17:44 |
| Sam-I-Am | here's one... | 17:45 |
| Sam-I-Am | (another issue) | 17:46 |
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| Sam-I-Am | lets say you add an extension to ml2 such as port_security after you've created your networks... and now you get an error that says 'port does not have port-security binding' | 17:46 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i added the port_security extension in the liberty install guide because it seems to implement arp spoof protection a bit better than without it (plus some other features) ... and people are having trouble when they try to use that config for an upgrade from a prior release | 17:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | i'm guessing you'd have to manually update each port? | 17:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: tox: pass TEMPEST_CONFIG_DIR envvar into api target environment https://review.openstack.org/249234 | 17:49 |
| jschwarz | Sam-I-Am, I'm afraid I can't help you there - i don't know port-security :) | 17:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | kevinbenton: ^ | 17:50 |
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| kevinbenton | Sam-I-Am: ugh, so it's just exploding if they enable it? | 17:51 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yeah, they get 'port does not have port-security binding' | 17:51 |
| Sam-I-Am | and it dies | 17:51 |
| kevinbenton | Sam-I-Am: that is craptastic | 17:52 |
| kevinbenton | Sam-I-Am: we need to fix that | 17:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | i dont write the install guide to support upgrades, but this points to a more general scenario of some shiny new extension coming out and someone wanting to add it to an existing installation | 17:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | unfortunately not something easy to test with grenade because so many combinations | 17:53 |
| kevinbenton | Sam-I-Am: a port with no port security extension is the same as one with port security enabled | 17:53 |
| kevinbenton | Sam-I-Am: so there is a direct mapping we should be able to do | 17:53 |
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| kevinbenton | Sam-I-Am: can you file a bug for it? | 17:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/neutron: Remove oslo.messaging.notify.drivers backward compat https://review.openstack.org/247906 | 17:53 |
| Sam-I-Am | sure | 17:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Carl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: Add address scope to ports in RPC response to L3 agent https://review.openstack.org/189948 | 17:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Carl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: Add address scope to floating IPs in RPC response to L3 agent https://review.openstack.org/189500 | 17:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Carl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: Create a routing table manager https://review.openstack.org/192032 | 18:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Carl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: Miscelaneous changes to enable address scopes in L3 agent https://review.openstack.org/212669 | 18:01 |
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| Sam-I-Am | kevinbenton: this seems semi-related | 18:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1461519 | 18:08 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1461519 in neutron "Enabling ml2 port security extension driver causes net-list to fail on existing deployment" [High,Fix released] - Assigned to Kahou Lei (kahou82) | 18:08 |
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| kevinbenton | Sam-I-Am: ah, yes. i remember that one, but i take it that didn't fix the port issue? | 18:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Check gateway ip when update subnet https://review.openstack.org/240652 | 18:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | i'm guessing not, but i havent tested this myself yet | 18:09 |
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| Sam-I-Am | just what i heard from a problem i'm troubleshooting in #openstack | 18:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | i have seen weird issues with enabling port_security after the fact, but prior to liberty when we were testing the arp spoofing stuff | 18:10 |
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| Sam-I-Am | kevinbenton: going to try reproducing locally so i dont file bunk bug :) | 18:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ramu Ramamurthy proposed openstack/neutron: Remove stale ofport drop-rule upon port-delete https://review.openstack.org/248908 | 18:24 |
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| Sam-I-Am | acccck, kevin is not here | 18:29 |
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| Sam-I-Am | found another interesting issue | 18:29 |
| Sam-I-Am | one thing leads to another... | 18:30 |
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| Sam-I-Am | jschwarz: you around? | 18:36 |
| jschwarz | Sam-I-Am, for a little longer. sup? | 18:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | oh, just came across another odd thing while testing another odd thing | 18:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | i'm on a roll today | 18:36 |
| jschwarz | Sam-I-Am, yey odd things!! | 18:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | lets say you try to create a subnet, but theres no L2 agents running | 18:37 |
| jschwarz | Sam-I-Am, that will end badly | 18:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | you would think that if you start an L2 agent, it would check in with the server and Do Things to create the bridges | 18:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | instead it just barfs with 'tapXXX not on plugin' | 18:38 |
| Sam-I-Am | (which is a terrible error message i need to fix) | 18:38 |
| jschwarz | Sam-I-Am, sounds like a bug that needs to be filed :) | 18:38 |
| Sam-I-Am | does what i think it should do make sense? | 18:38 |
| jschwarz | Sam-I-Am, on some level, yes | 18:38 |
| jschwarz | neutron should have a better error-recovering mechanism | 18:39 |
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| Sam-I-Am | seems to me that network creation is a control plane thing | 18:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | the data plane business should happen as agents become available | 18:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | i wonder if this just pertains to the L2 agent or also other agents | 18:40 |
| jschwarz | Sam-I-Am, yes, but the communication between the control plane and agent plane is a-synchronous | 18:40 |
| jschwarz | Sam-I-Am, it probably pertains to other agents | 18:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | i thought the agents sync themselves on startup | 18:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | this allows you to add more agents to an existing environment | 18:41 |
| jschwarz | yeps, but on some parts of the code that's not the case | 18:41 |
| jschwarz | OVS for example searches for the ports on startup to make sure it has everything, but the existing code might be missing some code that, for examples, creates a tap device when it's created | 18:42 |
| jschwarz | Sam-I-Am, either way it's a bug that should be fixed :) | 18:42 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ok. i'm going to sidetrack my sidetrack of a sidetrack a little more and see if it impacts other agents | 18:43 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i like filing informed bugs | 18:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | and then try to remember why i did all of this in the first place | 18:43 |
| jschwarz | Sam-I-Am, ^_^ | 18:43 |
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| amuller | ihrachys: I think that adding that topic to the Neutron meeting agenda could work | 18:46 |
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| ihrachys | amuller: maybe you are right. let's add one. | 18:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Doug Wiegley proposed openstack/neutron-lib: Initial shared exceptions https://review.openstack.org/247856 | 18:48 |
| sc68cal | HenryG: sorry about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/236805/6 - can you re +2 ? | 18:48 |
| amuller | ihrachys: adding it | 18:49 |
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| ihrachys | amuller: already done | 18:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | sc68cal: moo | 18:50 |
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| amuller | ihrachys: almost had it :) | 18:50 |
| ihrachys | amuller: meh | 18:50 |
| amuller | ihrachys: thank you | 18:50 |
| ihrachys | amuller: sorry | 18:50 |
| ihrachys | amuller: I think my browser just crashed | 18:50 |
| amuller | ihrachys: I see it updated | 18:50 |
| * ihrachys checks whether it saved | 18:51 | |
| ihrachys | ok cool | 18:51 |
| ihrachys | bad day for me: first networking, then safari. | 18:51 |
| amuller | ihrachys: going for lunch, ttyl | 18:51 |
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| ihrachys | cu | 18:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Rossella Sblendido proposed openstack/neutron: Revert "Revert "OVS agent reacts to events instead of polling"" https://review.openstack.org/245105 | 18:52 |
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| HenryG | sc68cal: done. Thanks for keeping us on the straight and narrow. :) | 18:54 |
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| Sam-I-Am | sc68cal: sup home slice | 18:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP]: 'baremetal' support for OVS agent https://review.openstack.org/249265 | 18:59 |
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| ihrachys | mestery: garyk: armax: https://review.openstack.org/249382 and https://review.openstack.org/249383 to reenable API tests for stable branches | 19:09 |
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| mestery | ihrachys: +2 on both, nice work :) | 19:10 |
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| Sam-I-Am | kevinbenton: ping | 19:15 |
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| Sam-I-Am | or sc68cal | 19:15 |
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| kevinbenton | Sam-I-Am: i'm back | 19:21 |
| kevinbenton | sorry flaky connection | 19:21 |
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| Sam-I-Am | heh | 19:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | kevinbenton: i have a bug for you to look at in a few mins | 19:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | which is sort of a sidetrack of an earlier issue | 19:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | because... sidetracks | 19:25 |
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| kevinbenton | Sam-I-Am: ack | 19:26 |
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| Sam-I-Am | kevinbenton: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1519458 | 19:28 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1519458 in neutron "L2 agent fails to create bridges if not running prior to creation of subnet (with DHCP) or router interface" [Undecided,New] | 19:28 |
| Sam-I-Am | not sure how i ran into this one, but sometimes i stop asking questions | 19:29 |
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| Sam-I-Am | and now back to my original quest... what happens if i enable port_security later | 19:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Timothy Swanson proposed openstack/neutron: Fix floating IP status for HA router https://review.openstack.org/249389 | 19:34 |
| kevinbenton | Sam-I-Am: i see. can you see any errors in the l3 agent or dhcp agent during that time? | 19:34 |
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| Sam-I-Am | nope, they start fine | 19:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | namespaces are created | 19:36 |
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| Sam-I-Am | aight, bbiab - seeking edible objects | 19:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Brent Eagles proposed openstack/neutron: Adding a VNIC type for physical functions https://review.openstack.org/246923 | 19:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Brent Eagles proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Add support for 'direct-physical' VNIC type https://review.openstack.org/246586 | 19:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Make Neutron resources reference standard attr table https://review.openstack.org/222079 | 20:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Martin Hickey proposed openstack/neutron: Automatically generate neutron core configuration files https://review.openstack.org/204206 | 20:03 |
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| mhickey | Sam-I-Am: Howdy | 20:05 |
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| jamespd | armax: I'm happy to have a try to implement the change for bug 1483480. ([RFE] Allow annotations on Neutron resources) | 20:19 |
| openstack | bug 1483480 in neutron "[RFE] Allow annotations on Neutron resources" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1483480 | 20:19 |
| jamespd | armax: by 'Kevin's work', are you talking about using the new standardattributes table? | 20:21 |
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| armax | jamespd: yes | 20:37 |
| armax | jamespd: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1483480/comments/6 | 20:38 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1483480 in neutron "[RFE] Allow annotations on Neutron resources" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 20:38 |
| jamespd | armax: thanks, just wanted to confirm that. | 20:38 |
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| Redcavalier | Hi, sorry to bother, I've hit what may very well be a bug in the way neutron handles port security, so I thought I'd come directly here. | 20:46 |
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| Redcavalier | Basically, despite prevent_arp_spoofing=True and extension_drivers = port_security, my network admin is able to steal the gateway ip with a arp broadcast. | 20:47 |
| Redcavalier | Either there's something wrong with how we configured this, or this is a pretty major bug. | 20:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron-lib: Cleanup .gitignore https://review.openstack.org/248729 | 21:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Doug Wiegley proposed openstack/neutron-lib: Remove pypy as tox env https://review.openstack.org/249423 | 21:05 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mhickey: moo | 21:11 |
| mhickey | Sam-I-Am: how are things? | 21:12 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mhickey: pretty good. got nice and sidetracked today. | 21:13 |
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| mhickey | Sam-I-Am: such is life! :) BTW, chat earlier on setting to WIP. Should I change owner and go to workflow-1 or leave as is? | 21:15 |
| Sam-I-Am | if you're the primary author on it now, i'd change owner and co-author | 21:15 |
| mhickey | Sam-I-Am: and co-author the original author? | 21:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | did the current author do any of the work? | 21:18 |
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| Sam-I-Am | or was it more or less abandone | 21:18 |
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| Sam-I-Am | d | 21:18 |
| mhickey | ir provided small base of file which I have changed considerably and added lots of additional file changes. | 21:21 |
| mhickey | *base of files* | 21:21 |
| Sam-I-Am | i'd just swap it | 21:22 |
| mhickey | I can add the current author as a co-author. Sound ok? | 21:23 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yes | 21:26 |
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| Sam-I-Am | kevinbenton: ping | 21:46 |
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| beagles | moshele, are you actually around? | 21:47 |
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| Swami | carl_baldwin: ping | 22:02 |
| carl_baldwin | Swami: pong | 22:02 |
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| Swami | carl_baldwin: I am seeing some errors when I try to run a dump of the namespace with the agent with one of my patches. | 22:02 |
| Swami | carl_baldwin: The error states "NoFilterMatched". | 22:02 |
| Swami | carl_baldwin: #link http://paste.openstack.org/show/479923/ | 22:03 |
| Swami | carl_baldwin: I have captured the error in the paste bin. I am not sure what is causing that error to occur. | 22:03 |
| Swami | carl_baldwin: do you have any idea | 22:03 |
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| Sam-I-Am | kevinbenton: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1519509 | 22:04 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1519509 in neutron "Creating instances fails after enabling port_security extension on existing deployment" [Undecided,New] | 22:04 |
| carl_baldwin | Swami: Looks like the command you're running isn't allowed by rootwrap | 22:05 |
| Swami | carl_baldwin: I even tried the ping command and it is not working through rootwrap. | 22:06 |
| Swami | carl_baldwin: how do we handle this | 22:06 |
| Swami | carl_baldwin: #link http://paste.openstack.org/show/479925/ | 22:06 |
| Swami | carl_baldwin: here is code snippet that calls utils.execute to run as root. | 22:07 |
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| carl_baldwin | Swami, the patch needs to include adjustments to the rootwrap filters to allow the commands. (or new filters) | 22:10 |
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| carl_baldwin | Swami: Here is an example: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/192032/24/etc/neutron/rootwrap.d/l3.filters | 22:10 |
| Swami | carl_baldwin: ok I will take a look at it. Thanks | 22:10 |
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| carl_baldwin | Swami: You're welcome | 22:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | sup guys | 22:11 |
| Swami | carl_baldwin: if you have some time can you take a look at the scale patches. | 22:11 |
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| carl_baldwin | Swami: Thanks for the reminder. I keep getting distracted from them. | 22:12 |
| Swami | carl_baldwin: thanks | 22:12 |
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| amuller | zzzeek: ping about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/230481/10/neutron/db/l3_hamode_db.py | 22:29 |
| amuller | zzzeek: or https://review.openstack.org/#/c/230481/10/doc/source/devref/effective_neutron.rst more precisely | 22:29 |
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| manjeets | amuller: ping | 22:31 |
| amuller | manjeets: heya | 22:32 |
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| manjeets | amuller: I am trying ha_routers was able to setup two l3agents on two public nodes and created a private cloud on top of those two | 22:32 |
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| manjeets | but I am not able access instance whose network intefaces is added to that router | 22:33 |
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| amuller | manjeets: are you able to create a legacy router, net, subnet, attach everything, vm + floating ip then ping that floating IP? | 22:34 |
| amuller | in the same environment | 22:34 |
| manjeets | yes i am | 22:34 |
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| manjeets | i tried that simple router worked for me | 22:34 |
| amuller | manjeets: then you just added the l3 agent on another machine and created a router with --ha=True, everything else the same? | 22:35 |
| manjeets | i ran a two node devstack setup one has everything as usal second node has q-agt, q-l3 q-meta | 22:36 |
| moshele | beagles: yes | 22:36 |
| beagles | moshele, I answered my own question actually | 22:37 |
| amuller | manjeets: ok, neutron agent-list shows the 2nd set of q-agt, q-l3, q-meta up and happy? | 22:37 |
| beagles | moshele, with respect to the physical function passthrough: I will deal with the agent in a follow-up dependent patch, okay? | 22:37 |
| manjeets | yes it shows and along with right hostanem and happy status | 22:37 |
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| beagles | moshele, I wasn't up to date on all of the sriov driver and agent changes in liberty so I need to rethink a couple of things | 22:38 |
| manjeets | amuller i just did check http://paste.openstack.org/show/479929/ | 22:38 |
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| amuller | manjeets: ok, what does neutron l3-agent-list-hosting-router <ha_router> show? | 22:38 |
| moshele | beagles: ok what about the | 22:39 |
| moshele | supported_pci_vendor_info validation ? | 22:39 |
| beagles | moshele, oh yeah.. I was going to reply in the review, but basically what would it break to use the same configuration? | 22:39 |
| beagles | moshele, on the face of it , it is a little ugly to add separate configuration | 22:40 |
| beagles | moshele, it has its advantages in some respects, but.. do we need it? | 22:41 |
| moshele | beagles: it just extra validation on the neutron side | 22:41 |
| manjeets | amuller : you mean neutron router-show ha_router ? | 22:42 |
| amuller | manjeets: no, I mean what I wrote :) | 22:42 |
| beagles | moshele, if the rationale is to selectively support physical functions then I can see that | 22:42 |
| moshele | beagles: so PF as different pci_vendor_info then VF so it need to be match to the vnic_type | 22:42 |
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| moshele | beagles: and you point as well | 22:43 |
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| beagles | moshele. I wish we had used a different name for the VF config then ;) | 22:43 |
| moshele | beagles: yeap I didn't chose the name :) | 22:44 |
| manjeets | amuller it shows two ids saying one standby one active | 22:45 |
| manjeets | with happy signs | 22:45 |
| amuller | manjeets: good | 22:45 |
| amuller | manjeets: so what's not working, ping to the floating IP of the VM? | 22:45 |
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| manjeets | neither ping nor ssh | 22:46 |
| manjeets | ping says host unreachable | 22:46 |
| amuller | manjeets: ok, go to where the active replica of the router is, enter that router's namespace, and ping both the router's gateway, as well as the internal address of the VM | 22:46 |
| amuller | also use VNC to access the VM and make sure it got an IP | 22:46 |
| moshele | beagles: anyway if you need help with patches and testing let me know | 22:47 |
| beagles | moshele, I will likely break that into a separate piece too I think | 22:47 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: if you have time I wanted to talk to you about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/230481/10/doc/source/devref/effective_neutron.rst | 22:47 |
| beagles | moshele, will do | 22:47 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: I'm looking for a way to standardize a DB usage pattern | 22:47 |
| beagles | moshele, thanks for the feedback btw! | 22:47 |
| moshele | beagles: so you want me to remove -1 ? | 22:47 |
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| beagles | moshele, let me get some follow up patches in there first - just for propriety if for no other reason ;) | 22:49 |
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| manjeets | internap ip ping from router namespace just worked | 22:49 |
| manjeets | amuller: | 22:49 |
| beagles | moshele, and then I'll harass you about that | 22:49 |
| manjeets | intenal ip* | 22:49 |
| amuller | manjeets: good, how about pinging the router's gateway? | 22:50 |
| manjeets | its also working | 22:50 |
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| manjeets | i pinged external gateway ip from interfaces on that router | 22:51 |
| amuller | manjeets: ok | 22:51 |
| moshele | beagles: also I think our CI can test you all your changes when you are ready because in tempest you can select the vnic_type | 22:51 |
| amuller | manjeets: security groups allowing incoming ICMP/SSH? | 22:51 |
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| moshele | beagles: we can add a job for it in nova and neutron | 22:51 |
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| beagles | moshele, that would be excellent! | 22:51 |
| manjeets | that was first thing i did before creating instances | 22:51 |
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| amuller | manjeets: Then my guess that the issue is not with Neutron | 22:52 |
| amuller | manjeets: can you try traceroute to the floating IP? | 22:52 |
| amuller | manjeets: also can you ping the router's IP from outside? | 22:52 |
| manjeets | traceroute from inside or outside the namespace | 22:52 |
| manjeets | ? | 22:52 |
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| moshele | beagles: so just let me know when your ready and I will talk to my CI guy to prepare them | 22:53 |
| amuller | manjeets: from where you're pinging the floating IP | 22:53 |
| beagles | moshele, thanks! | 22:53 |
| moshele | beagles: np | 22:53 |
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| moshele | beagles: are you planning to work on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198736/ in this cycle ? | 22:54 |
| manjeets | ok | 22:54 |
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| beagles | moshele, yup. | 22:58 |
| manjeets | i am not able to ping router ip from host | 22:58 |
| moshele | beagles: ok I can help you with that | 22:58 |
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| beagles | moshele, I did some research on the intel side and there is something about VLAN filtering on the physical function when VFs are configured. | 22:59 |
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| beagles | moshele, I've seen something that seems like that in a test environment.. so that kind of sucks | 23:00 |
| amuller | manjeets: anything interesting in 'grep /var/log/neutron "ERROR|TRACE" on either 2 machines? | 23:01 |
| moshele | beagles: I think you can disable VLAN filtering it with ethtool | 23:01 |
| aduyck | beagles, moshele: Yeah, the Intel guys didn't have VLAN trunking enabled when you enabled promiscous mode. I have patches with them to fix that but it won't be resolved for a while. | 23:01 |
| beagles | moshele, I don't think it worked .. at least on the nic I tried. It's been awhile so I'm not 100% on that | 23:02 |
| moshele | aduyck: we had same issue with new Mellanox NIC as well :) | 23:02 |
| beagles | aduyck, ah cool | 23:02 |
| armax | amotoki: ping | 23:02 |
| manjeets | i think my debug is not set to true i'll try that will tell you now or later if i see anything in logs | 23:02 |
| manjeets | amuller: thanks | 23:03 |
| manjeets | I appreciate | 23:03 |
| manjeets | it | 23:03 |
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| moshele | beagles: you can always use Mellanox NIC :) | 23:04 |
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| beagles | moshele, sure.. .just have to get somebody to give me one :) | 23:04 |
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| beagles | I suppose it doesn't *really* solve the Intel issue though | 23:05 |
| moshele | beagles: :) | 23:05 |
| aduyck | beagles: If you want I can give you a link to the patches, but you would need to use net-next git tree for them to apply cleanly. | 23:05 |
| beagles | aduyck, I wouldn't mind having the link for reference if nothing else. I don't have a machine I can patch at the moment | 23:07 |
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| beagles | aduyck, I might get a chance to try it later in December | 23:08 |
| aduyck | beagles: The thread with the patche is at http://lists.osuosl.org/pipermail/intel-wired-lan/Week-of-Mon-20151102/002756.html | 23:09 |
| beagles | aduyck, awesome.. thanks! | 23:09 |
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| aduyck | beagles: You can also pick the individual patches from http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/project/intel-wired-lan/list/?submitter=67293 | 23:10 |
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| Sukhdev | russellb : Ping | 23:11 |
| Sukhdev | russellb : if you are around - I have a quick question for you regarding ovs lib in relation to L2GW | 23:12 |
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| beagles | aduyck, cool | 23:14 |
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| zzzeek | amuller: replied | 23:17 |
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| amuller | zzzeek: did you see that in line 141 Ann uses nested=True? | 23:18 |
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| manjeets | amuller: i did trace route as well i think its not able to figure out where to go from br-ex | 23:20 |
| amuller | manjeets: ok, that's not specific to HA or legacy routers | 23:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/247158 | 23:31 |
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| spandhe | kevinbenton: Hi Kevin.. it was great talking to you today. | 23:32 |
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| kevinbenton | spandhe: thanks for having me over! | 23:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Armando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Add Incomplete state to list of acceptable states for RFE bugs https://review.openstack.org/249483 | 23:49 |
| zzzeek | amuller: I only commented on the .rst file | 23:50 |
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| zzzeek | amuller: this whole concept that we do a thing in a transaction, and if the transaction fails, we have to go "delete something" seems very wrong. the thing that wish to delete should have been *created* in this transaction. that's the whole point of atomicity | 23:53 |
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| amuller | zzzeek: yeah, I'm saying the .rst file example usage uses a nested transaction in the inner operation as you can see on line 141 of the .rst file | 23:53 |
| amuller | zzzeek: I agree. What we're doing in the .delete call in this example is not a pure DB operation, it's also firing off REST or RPC events | 23:54 |
| amuller | zzzeek: for example if the .create call talked to another server to create a remote resource, we need to fire off the same event but for delete when we clean up | 23:54 |
| amuller | zzzeek: What we should probably do in the long term (Which knowing OpenStack development might never happen) is decouple ML2 plugin calls from its RPC and HTTP calls | 23:55 |
| amuller | zzzeek: and have another layer manage both ml2 plugin calls and RPC and HTTP calls, then we could control when we notify via HTTP/RPC more precisely | 23:55 |
| amuller | in the mean time... | 23:56 |
| amuller | we do that create + try/except/delete business | 23:56 |
| zzzeek | amuller: usually with the "we need to do a non-DB thing from a DB transaction", usually its like "send an email", but here its like, "set up a router" or whatever, you do those things *after* the DB transaction is complete. Or you really go nuts and use two phase commit | 23:56 |
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| amuller | zzzeek: in the router code we actually did send the RPC notification after the commit | 23:56 |
| amuller | zzzeek: the issue is that the router code needs to create a port sometimes, and it does that via ml2.create_port, and that in itself can send HTTP/RPC calls | 23:57 |
| zzzeek | amuller: if your Q for me here is "how sohuld neutron do this", that's hard, every time i look at these neutron cases, there is way too much giong on in many places for me to have a useful opinion | 23:57 |
| amuller | zzzeek: What I'm asking is more specific (I hope) | 23:57 |
| zzzeek | amuller: OK what is the question | 23:58 |
| * zzzeek looks for "phrases, and then a ? " | 23:58 | |
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| zzzeek | What....is ye name? | 23:58 |
| zzzeek | What.... is ye quest? | 23:58 |
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| amuller | zzzeek: looking at the .rst from lines 131 to 141, can you think of a way to abstract that usage away to a helper method (For example) so that we can reuse it throughout the Neutron codebase without being aware of the nuance/details of nested transactions and rollbacks | 23:59 |
| zzzeek | amuller: yes | 23:59 |
| amuller | zzzeek: for example the issue highlighted (to me) in that .rst is that implementation of '_do_other_thing' *has* to use nested=True | 23:59 |
| amuller | which... sucks | 23:59 |
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