Tuesday, 2017-01-24

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rakhmerovkong: yes03:28
rakhmerovkong: ready to release Mistral this week?03:29
rakhmerovnot now, pls wait till Fri03:29
rakhmerovor Thu evening03:29
kongrakhmerov: yep, i'm ready, it's up to the team for when03:29
rakhmerovok03:30
kongand after rc-3 release, we could decide if we should create our ocata stable branch03:30
kongsorry, b303:30
rakhmerovyes03:30
rakhmerovwe'll need it03:30
rakhmerovas usually03:30
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rakhmerovkong: I added more comments in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/414508/03:38
rakhmerovpls take a look03:38
kongrakhmerov: ok, thanks for review. but i'm afraid that feature will be delayed to Pike, given the rc is only for bugs03:39
rakhmerovmost likely, yes03:39
rakhmerovbut at least we need to finalize the spec03:39
rakhmerovI believe we're close already03:40
kongrakhmerov: yep, we could merge it in O, and start coding in P03:40
rakhmerovyes03:40
rakhmerovbtw, we'll probably need to move some specs from approved/ocata to approved/pike03:41
rakhmerovkong: how's life in general?03:41
rakhmerovwork, family?03:41
kongsure, as soon as we release b3, we could do that03:41
kongrakhmerov: not bad, more time with the kid03:42
kongespecially after my parents-in-law went back to China03:42
rakhmerov:)03:42
rakhmerovmaybe not a bad thing, hah?03:43
rakhmerov:)03:43
rakhmerovthat they moved back :)03:43
kongi only have my own time after 10PM sometimes even after 11PM03:43
kongyeah, they will come again after 6 months03:43
kongaccording to the NZ visa regulation03:43
rakhmerovI see03:44
rakhmerovI'm just kidding03:44
konghaha03:44
konghow about you03:44
kongstill work remote?03:44
rakhmerovpretty often people have difficult relationships with parents-in-law03:44
rakhmerovmaybe you're not one of them03:44
kongrakhmerov: not for me03:44
rakhmerovyes, I'm still remote03:44
rakhmerovI'm more or less fine03:44
rakhmerovjust started thinking how to improve Mistral development process03:45
rakhmerovif you have any recommendations I'm all ears03:45
kongi have been thinking how to convince more people to use mistral03:45
rakhmerovkong: I really believe that we're still missing some important features03:46
rakhmerovlike cool actions, visualization tool etc03:46
rakhmerovcomprehensive docs03:46
rakhmerovalthough we made a good progress on docs03:46
rakhmerovin the previous 6-8 months03:47
rakhmerovOpenStack actions need to be fully rewritten and refactored03:47
kongfrom my side(or feedback from my colleagues), supporting scripts is definitely useful03:47
rakhmerovthey are not tested well etc.03:47
rakhmerovkong: yes, I find this feature very very demanded03:47
kongespecially for legacy software03:48
kongfor exsiting a lot of scripts, how to transfer them to mistral smoothly03:48
rakhmerovI actually would like to get back to your patch and continue discussion03:48
rakhmerovhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/373606/03:48
rakhmerovyes, I agree fully03:48
rakhmerovbut maybe we need to be discuss it from a slightly different angle03:49
rakhmerovin a more abstract form03:49
kongyep03:49
rakhmerovI mean the following: you're mostly talking about using a file system03:49
rakhmerovwhich is fine03:49
kongif there is another project could do FaaS thing, life will be much easier for mistral03:49
rakhmerovbut maybe we could make the idea more attractive if we were talking about an abstract external storage03:49
rakhmerovyes03:50
kongno, currenty, i'm thinking how to integerate with 3rd party to acheive the same goal03:50
kongmistral can not do everything03:50
rakhmerovso it shouldn't be only a file system probably, file system can be just a special case of it03:50
kongagree03:50
rakhmerovanyway, I'm going to re-review it from a different perspective03:51
rakhmerovwe may also discuss it on the PTG03:51
rakhmerovlet me actually restore it, let's keep it just as a WIP03:51
rakhmerovfor now03:51
rakhmerovok with that?03:52
kongi think we could abandon that one, and start with a spec after discussion03:52
rakhmerovok03:52
kongrakhmerov: need to pick up my son ;-)03:54
kongwhat time for you now?03:54
rakhmerovabout 11 am03:57
rakhmerovkong: ok, take care03:57
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tuan_Hi guys, if you are online and have time, may i have sometime to discuss with you guys about the mysql problem yesterday07:42
tuan_ping me any time when you are online07:42
rakhmerovtuan_: here07:53
tuan_Hi Renat, sorrry to wake you up07:53
tuan_:D07:53
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rakhmerovyou didn't wake me up08:24
rakhmerovit's 3.24 pm here08:25
rakhmerovtuan: so, as far as that sqlalchemy question08:25
rakhmerovwhy do you think it's an issue in sqlalchemy itself?08:25
d0ugalso late :)08:25
tuan:D08:25
* d0ugal is waking up08:25
tuanhere is just 9h2508:25
tuanhaha08:25
rakhmerovmy point of view: it has nothing to do with sqlalchemy08:25
d0ugaltuan: 8:25here :)08:26
rakhmerovit has something to do with how we organise DB operations08:26
tuan:D08:26
rakhmerovyou're 100% right that we try to do everything in one big transaction08:26
tuanwell, i also do not think it is sqlalchemy08:26
rakhmerovthat's the real issue08:26
rakhmerovnot sqlalchemy I think08:26
rakhmerovok08:26
tuani have not seen this one before08:26
tuaneven i had quite a long time work sql08:26
tuanhowever,08:27
rakhmerovsolutions I see: 1) Delete objects with smaller batches08:27
tuanyeap as you said08:27
rakhmerov2) Make expiration policy do clean up more often08:27
tuani myself vote for 108:27
rakhmerov#1 IMO is better (although doesn't conflict with #2)08:27
rakhmerovyes08:27
tuanyeap08:27
rakhmerovbut it should be implemented by someone08:28
tuando we want it to be configurable08:28
tuan?08:28
rakhmerovit's not a big deal to do, we just need to define what size of batches we'll have and split one big transaction into this kind of batches08:28
rakhmerovthat's it08:28
rakhmerovyes, we can make it configurable08:29
rakhmerovit'd give us additional flexibility08:29
tuanyeap, i agree08:29
tuan:)08:29
tuanso let me check my schedule08:29
tuani will pm you guys about fixing it if i have time08:29
tuani will confirm it in next couple of hours08:30
tuan:)08:30
d0ugaltuan: Have you opened a bug?08:30
tuannot yet08:30
d0ugaltuan: can I see the error?08:30
tuani am going to do it now08:30
rakhmerovtuan: please open the bug for this08:30
tuanyeap08:30
rakhmerovit would be cool if someone from your colleagues volunteered08:30
tuani will do that08:31
tuan:D08:31
tuanbut let me check my schedule first08:31
tuan:)08:31
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tuanhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/mistral/+bug/165894609:40
openstackLaunchpad bug 1658946 in Mistral "DBExceptionError when trying to delete a huge number of executions " [Undecided,New]09:40
tuanHere we go09:41
rakhmerovok09:46
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openstackgerritIstvan Imre proposed openstack/mistral: Invalid jinja pattern regex corrected  https://review.openstack.org/42456610:28
openstackgerritMerged openstack/mistral-dashboard: Task table - type column would refer to workflow executions accordingly  https://review.openstack.org/41563110:48
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/mistral: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/42461712:12
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openstackgerritluong tuan proposed openstack/mistral: Deleting the expired execution in chunk  https://review.openstack.org/42462112:19
openstackgerritMerged openstack/mistral: Invalid jinja pattern regex corrected  https://review.openstack.org/42456612:35
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openstackgerritluong tuan proposed openstack/mistral: Deleting the expired execution in chunk  https://review.openstack.org/42462113:54
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/mistral: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/42461714:01
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