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| tpatil | #startmeeting masakari | 04:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 12 04:00:19 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tpatil. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 04:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 04:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: masakari)" | 04:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'masakari' | 04:00 |
| tpatil | Roll call? | 04:01 |
| tpatil | Today Sampath is unavailable so I will chair today's meeting | 04:01 |
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| tpatil | #topic Roll Call | 04:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: masakari)" | 04:02 | |
| shilpasd | tpatil: GM | 04:03 |
| tpatil | shilpasd: Hi | 04:04 |
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| tpatil | #topic Ussuri work items | 04:07 |
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| tpatil | Blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/masakari/+spec/default-value-of-ha-enabled-instance-metadata | 04:07 |
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| tpatil | Here, if HA_Enabled metadata key is not set to the instance, then by default considered as False and if evacuate_all_instances is set to True, all instances from the failed compute host will be evacuated | 04:09 |
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| tpatil | #link : http://paste.openstack.org/show/785957/ | 04:12 |
| tpatil | I have included the information in the paste to describe how it's going to work | 04:13 |
| tpatil | #action: Sampath to confirm if the information included in the paste is correct | 04:13 |
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| shilpasd | tpatil: so priority is given to 'HA_Enabled' flag | 04:15 |
| tpatil | #action: tpatil to add a new specs to implement the above blurprint | 04:15 |
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| tpatil | Yes, if HA_Enabled is True, it will evacuate that instance | 04:16 |
| tpatil | Another work item: Evacuate non-recovery (’HA_enabled = False’) instances in shutoff status at host failure except specified tenants | 04:16 |
| tpatil | #link : https://blueprints.launchpad.net/masakari/+spec/evacuate-non-recovery-instances-in-shutoff-status-at-host-failure-except-specified-tenants | 04:16 |
| tpatil | I have understood about introducing another new config option to tell masakari engine to evacuate the instance to shutoff state if HA_Enabled metadata set to the instance is False. | 04:17 |
| tpatil | Second part of this blueprint is not clear about adding new config option to specify tenants | 04:18 |
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| tpatil | #action: tpatil to check with samP about this particular requirement | 04:19 |
| tpatil | I will write specs for this blueprint as well | 04:19 |
| tpatil | These are the two work items I'm planning to add in Ussuri release | 04:20 |
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| tpatil | Anyone who wants to contribute feature for Ussuri release? | 04:24 |
| tpatil | #topic Current open patches | 04:28 |
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| tpatil | #link: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/675734/ | 04:28 |
| tpatil | I have discussed with samP about the comment posted by me on PS 1 | 04:30 |
| tpatil | and he said that FQDN will be used for adding nodes to pacemaker. I will check with him again and then update my comment on the patch | 04:31 |
| tpatil | #action tpatil to discuss with samP about comment from author on patch 675734 | 04:32 |
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| tpatil | #topic Open discussion | 04:35 |
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| tpatil | If no topics for discussion let's end this meeting | 04:37 |
| tpatil | Thank you all for joining this meeting | 04:39 |
| tpatil | #endmeeting | 04:39 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 12 04:39:33 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 04:39 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2019/masakari.2019-11-12-04.00.html | 04:39 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2019/masakari.2019-11-12-04.00.txt | 04:39 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2019/masakari.2019-11-12-04.00.log.html | 04:39 |
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| slaweq | #startmeeting neutron_ci | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 12 16:00:30 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is slaweq. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_ci' | 16:00 |
| slaweq | ralonsoh: njohnston bcafarel: CI meeting, are You around? | 16:01 |
| njohnston | o/ | 16:01 |
| slaweq | o/ | 16:01 |
| ralonsoh | hi | 16:02 |
| slaweq | welcome back after the ptg :) | 16:02 |
| slaweq | I think I finally recovered from jet lag and (very long) trip | 16:02 |
| slaweq | let's start the meeting than | 16:03 |
| slaweq | Grafana dashboard: http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate | 16:03 |
| slaweq | please open it now and we can move forward | 16:03 |
| slaweq | #topic Actions from previous meetings | 16:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Actions from previous meetings (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:03 | |
| slaweq | slaweq to investigate failed neutron.tests.fullstack.test_qos.TestDscpMarkingQoSOvs | 16:04 |
| slaweq | I tried but there is no logs available anymore. So I though that if this will happen again, I will get back to it. | 16:05 |
| slaweq | and I just found new occurence of this issue today | 16:05 |
| slaweq | https://b56892e10e3e61a452c2-e4b54cf82b19c70bded9dbfe71e9b8f5.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.com/601336/41/check/neutron-fullstack/cfd8a8e/controller/logs/dsvm-fullstack-logs/TestDscpMarkingQoSLinuxbridge.test_dscp_marking_packets.txt.gz so I will investigate it now | 16:05 |
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| slaweq | #action slaweq to investigate failed neutron.tests.fullstack.test_qos.TestDscpMarkingQoSOvs | 16:05 |
| slaweq | next one was | 16:06 |
| slaweq | slaweq to check strange "EVENT OVSNeutronAgentOSKenApp->ofctl_service GetDatapathRequest send_event" log lines in neutron.tests.functional.agent.l2.extensions.test_ovs_agent_qos_extension.TestOVSAgentQosExtension.test_port_creation_with_dscp_marking | 16:06 |
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| slaweq | I checked it a bit but I don't know exactly what happend there. It seems for me that it probably didn't create br-tun properly and was still trying to get dp id for it. If this will happen more often, I will investigate again... | 16:07 |
| slaweq | next one | 16:08 |
| slaweq | ralonsoh to open LP about adding OF monitor to functional tests | 16:08 |
| ralonsoh | the OF monitor review is still pending | 16:09 |
| ralonsoh | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/689150/ | 16:09 |
| slaweq | thx, I will review it this week for sure | 16:10 |
| ralonsoh | slaweq, https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1848500 | 16:10 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1848500 in neutron "Implement an OpenFlow monitor" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Rodolfo Alonso (rodolfo-alonso-hernandez) | 16:10 |
| slaweq | and thx for reporting it on LP too | 16:10 |
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| slaweq | next one | 16:10 |
| slaweq | njohnston prepare etherpad to track stadium progress for zuul v3 job definition and py2 support drop | 16:11 |
| njohnston | I'll be working on that this week | 16:12 |
| slaweq | njohnston: ok, thx | 16:12 |
| slaweq | #action njohnston prepare etherpad to track stadium progress for zuul v3 job definition and py2 support drop | 16:12 |
| slaweq | ok, next one | 16:12 |
| slaweq | slaweq to send patch to remove py27 jobs from grafana | 16:12 |
| slaweq | Patch https://review.opendev.org/#/c/691973/ | 16:13 |
| slaweq | it is already merged | 16:13 |
| slaweq | next one | 16:13 |
| slaweq | slaweq to open LP related to "AttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'content_type'" error | 16:13 |
| slaweq | Bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1850558 | 16:13 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1850558 in neutron ""AttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'content_type' in functional tests" [Medium,Fix released] - Assigned to Rodolfo Alonso (rodolfo-alonso-hernandez) | 16:13 |
| slaweq | it is already fixed by ralonsoh | 16:13 |
| slaweq | thx ralonsoh for taking care of it | 16:14 |
| ralonsoh | np | 16:14 |
| slaweq | and the last one: | 16:14 |
| slaweq | slaweq to report LP about connectivity issues after resize/migration | 16:14 |
| slaweq | Bug reported https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1850557 | 16:14 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1850557 in neutron "DHCP connectivity after migration/resize not working" [Medium,Confirmed] | 16:14 |
| slaweq | this may be similar issue like described in https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1849479 | 16:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1849479 in neutron "neutron l2 to dhcp lost when migrating in stable/stein 14.0.2" [Medium,New] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 16:15 |
| slaweq | but I didn't have any time to work on it | 16:15 |
| slaweq | maybe I will have some time next week | 16:15 |
| slaweq | but if anyone else wants to take a look, feel free to take it :) | 16:15 |
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| slaweq | #action slaweq to take a look at connectivity issues after resize/migration | 16:17 |
| slaweq | ok, that's all from last meeting | 16:17 |
| slaweq | lets move on | 16:17 |
| slaweq | #topic Stadium projects | 16:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stadium projects (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:17 | |
| slaweq | there is no any update on moving tempest plugins to neutron-tempest-plugin | 16:17 |
| slaweq | we still need to delete old tests from neutron-dynamic-routing repo (step 2) and do both steps for vpnaas | 16:18 |
| slaweq | and I think that we can also use this topic to track progress on dropping py2 support and migration to zuulv3 | 16:19 |
| njohnston | I can do the n-d-r deletion | 16:19 |
| slaweq | but this will start next week | 16:19 |
| slaweq | njohnston: thx a lot | 16:19 |
| njohnston | #action njohnston delete old tests from neutron-dynamic-routing repo | 16:19 |
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| slaweq | anything else You want to add regarding stadium projects? | 16:22 |
| njohnston | nope | 16:22 |
| njohnston | we'll see if any of the puppies don't get adopted, that could make stadium maintenance easier | 16:23 |
| slaweq | njohnston: yes | 16:23 |
| slaweq | I will send emails about them later this week | 16:23 |
| slaweq | but we will have to wait until around Ussuri-2 with deprecation of some of them maybe | 16:23 |
| njohnston | probably | 16:24 |
| slaweq | ok, lets move on | 16:24 |
| slaweq | #topic Grafana | 16:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Grafana (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:24 | |
| slaweq | one problem which I see is that neutron-tempest-plugin-dvr-multinode-scenario (non-voting) failing 100% times again | 16:26 |
| njohnston | yes, also the periodic jobs for os-ken seem to be having issues (I forget if we talked about this already) | 16:28 |
| slaweq | yes, but this is os-ken with neutron-dynamic-routing | 16:28 |
| slaweq | and this one is broken since few days | 16:28 |
| slaweq | let me find LP | 16:28 |
| njohnston | not just that, also looks like every other run of neutron-tempest-with-os-ken-master too | 16:29 |
| slaweq | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1850626 | 16:29 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1850626 in neutron "neutron-dynamic-routing: TypeError: bind() takes 4 positional arguments but 5 were given" [Critical,Confirmed] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 16:29 |
| njohnston | 4 fails out of the last 7 tries for neutron-tempest-with-os-ken-master | 16:30 |
| slaweq | njohnston: yes, once it was global timeout | 16:31 |
| slaweq | once some invalid backup error from cinder | 16:31 |
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| slaweq | once some timeout when processing neutron request | 16:32 |
| slaweq | so there are various random issues there | 16:32 |
| slaweq | I think that we should first move this job from legacy to zuulv3 | 16:32 |
| slaweq | and than maybe run only neutron related tests on it | 16:32 |
| njohnston | makes sense | 16:32 |
| slaweq | than it should be hopefully better | 16:32 |
| slaweq | I will take care of this | 16:33 |
| slaweq | #action slaweq to move neutron-tempest-with-os-ken-master to zuulv3 syntax and switch to run neutron related tests only | 16:33 |
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| slaweq | anything else related to grafana do You have maybe? | 16:35 |
| slaweq | if not, I think we can continue with next topics | 16:35 |
| njohnston | go ahead :-) | 16:35 |
| slaweq | thx :) | 16:36 |
| slaweq | #topic fullstack/functional | 16:36 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "fullstack/functional (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:36 | |
| slaweq | I found only one new issue in functional tests | 16:36 |
| slaweq | neutron.tests.functional.agent.test_dhcp_agent.DHCPAgentOVSTestCase.test_good_address_allocation | 16:36 |
| slaweq | https://openstack.fortnebula.com:13808/v1/AUTH_e8fd161dc34c421a979a9e6421f823e9/zuul_opendev_logs_02c/693323/1/check/neutron-functional-with-uwsgi/02c5b9d/testr_results.html.gz | 16:36 |
| slaweq | did You maybe saw something like that before? | 16:36 |
| njohnston | no, never seena. timeout there | 16:38 |
| slaweq | logstash also shows only this one occurence of such issue | 16:39 |
| slaweq | so I don't think it is really need now to report it and spend time on it now | 16:39 |
| slaweq | lets see if that will happen more often | 16:40 |
| slaweq | do You agree? | 16:40 |
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| njohnston | +1 | 16:40 |
| slaweq | ok, lets move on | 16:41 |
| slaweq | #topic Tempest/Scenario | 16:41 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Tempest/Scenario (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:41 | |
| slaweq | I found few issues from last week | 16:41 |
| slaweq | first of all, funny issue with tempest-slow-py3 | 16:41 |
| slaweq | it seems that on compute node it still runs on python 2.7 | 16:41 |
| slaweq | I found it where I checked logs: https://ba2b4fc750309c3f0760-e6e77a9441ae9cccde1b8ed58f97fc24.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.com/690098/6/check/tempest-slow-py3/4a5cd35/compute1/logs/screen-q-agt.txt.gz | 16:42 |
| slaweq | on controller node py36 is used already | 16:42 |
| slaweq | I will propose patch to fix that this week | 16:42 |
| slaweq | #action slaweq to fix python version in tempest-slow-py3 job | 16:44 |
| slaweq | from other issues, I checked why this dvr mutltinode jobs is failing 100% of times | 16:44 |
| slaweq | it seems that it is failing every time on neutron_tempest_plugin.scenario.test_migration.NetworkMigrationFromHA tests | 16:44 |
| slaweq | I think this is related (again) to some wrong rootwrap filters: | 16:45 |
| slaweq | https://12dcf03ddbc1f4ac6c48-3214406b4544fce2f9d807df6ea4fe3f.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.com/677166/13/check/neutron-tempest-plugin-dvr-multinode-scenario/31d556c/compute1/logs/screen-q-l3.txt.gz | 16:45 |
| slaweq | anyone wants to investigate or should I assign it to my self? | 16:45 |
| njohnston | not sure I will have time, so I don't want to commit,. but I will try | 16:45 |
| slaweq | thx njohnston | 16:46 |
| slaweq | I will assign it to You just as a reminder | 16:46 |
| njohnston | sounds good | 16:46 |
| slaweq | #action njohnston to check failing NetworkMigrationFromHA in multinode dvr job | 16:46 |
| slaweq | and that's all from what I have for today | 16:46 |
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| slaweq | according to our discussion during PTG, this and next week I will spend some time on cleaning some of the jobs from our ci | 16:47 |
| slaweq | and on checking multi/single node jobs to check if we can replace some single node jobs with multinode jobs | 16:47 |
| slaweq | if I will have anything like that to review, I will ping You | 16:47 |
| njohnston | +1 | 16:48 |
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| slaweq | and if one of You can +W on https://review.opendev.org/#/c/681202/3 that would be great :) | 16:48 |
| njohnston | +W | 16:49 |
| slaweq | but it's not urgent as I just noticed that depends-on devstack patch needs some additional work | 16:49 |
| slaweq | thx njohnston :) | 16:49 |
| slaweq | do You have anything else to talk about today? | 16:49 |
| njohnston | nope! quiet week with the Forum and PTG. | 16:50 |
| slaweq | great | 16:50 |
| slaweq | so I think we can finish a bit earlier today | 16:50 |
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| slaweq | thx for attending the meeting | 16:50 |
| njohnston | thanks! | 16:50 |
| slaweq | and have a great day | 16:50 |
| ralonsoh | bye | 16:50 |
| slaweq | o/ | 16:51 |
| slaweq | #endmeeting | 16:51 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 16:51 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 12 16:51:03 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:51 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2019/neutron_ci.2019-11-12-16.00.html | 16:51 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2019/neutron_ci.2019-11-12-16.00.txt | 16:51 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2019/neutron_ci.2019-11-12-16.00.log.html | 16:51 |
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| clarkb | anyone else here for the infra meeting? | 18:59 |
| clarkb | We'll get started shortly | 18:59 |
| * fungi raises a hand | 18:59 | |
| ianw | o/ | 19:00 |
| clarkb | #startmeeting infra | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 12 19:01:20 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is clarkb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'infra' | 19:01 |
| clarkb | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2019-November/006509.html Our Agenda | 19:01 |
| clarkb | #topic Announcements | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:01 | |
| clarkb | Last week was the summit. I am feeling extra zombie like after that trip. The jet lag has been harsh. I expect others are in a similar position | 19:02 |
| * fungi mutters, "braiiiiins..." | 19:02 | |
| fungi | some folks are still vacationing/travelling too | 19:03 |
| clarkb | #topic Actions from last meeting | 19:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Actions from last meeting (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:04 | |
| clarkb | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2019/infra.2019-10-29-19.01.txt minutes from last meeting | 19:04 |
| clarkb | The last meeting was a long time ago, no actions recorded | 19:04 |
| clarkb | #topic Priority Efforts | 19:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Priority Efforts (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:05 | |
| clarkb | #topic OpenDev | 19:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenDev (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:05 | |
| clarkb | We need to renew the opendev.org cert | 19:05 |
| clarkb | I think we can manage to do that via LE now | 19:05 |
| clarkb | we'll just need a handler that restarts gitea backends when the cert updates (and maybe we can serialize those?) | 19:05 |
| clarkb | figuring that out is likely to be my tomorrow task | 19:06 |
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| clarkb | and we have plenty of time to sort it out and if we can't for whatever reason can always buy another cert for a yer | 19:06 |
| * AJaeger waves late | 19:06 | |
| fungi | yeah, it's still something like 2.5 weeks out | 19:07 |
| ianw | i guess each gitea host will have it's own cert? | 19:07 |
| clarkb | ianw: yes I think so | 19:07 |
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| fungi | as long as le doesn't scoff at 8 hosts requesting ssl certs for the same name | 19:08 |
| clarkb | that should be well within the rate limits iirc. | 19:09 |
| ianw | fungi: i don't think it will matter; each will get a different txt value to put into _acme-challenge, and it should "just work" | 19:09 |
| ianw | famous last words :) | 19:09 |
| fungi | that'll presumably be easier than refactoring things to have ssl terminated on the lb | 19:10 |
| clarkb | we can also have an altname that matches each backend specifically to help distinguish them? | 19:10 |
| fungi | true | 19:10 |
| clarkb | that may also make LE happier if the records are different each time | 19:10 |
| fungi | if it works the way we've done it for other services, i think that happens by default | 19:11 |
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| clarkb | #topic Update Config Management | 19:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Update Config Management (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:14 | |
| clarkb | I'm not sure this has been called out elsewhere yet but was mentioned at the PTG. Apparently mordred thinks we shouldn't wholesale move to podman yet | 19:14 |
| AJaeger | oh, why? | 19:15 |
| clarkb | we'll be getting dev builds via the ubuntu ppa for podman and some commands don't work as before. Idea is to try it a bit first with review(-dev) | 19:15 |
| AJaeger | so, "compatibility" ? | 19:15 |
| clarkb | I think we are happy with compatibility since rhel8 docker command is podman so it must be fairly compatible. More just that we aren't sure if the dev packaging from the ppa poses any concerns yet and users will need to get back to using docker commands instead of docker-compose commands and so on | 19:16 |
| clarkb | Then when we are happy with the results we can do broader changes | 19:17 |
| AJaeger | I see... | 19:17 |
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| fungi | lack of an interleaved log viewer was noted as an unfortunate loss for switching away from docker-compose | 19:17 |
| clarkb | Anything else on this topic or should we move on? | 19:19 |
| * fungi has nothing | 19:19 | |
| ianw | so for new work, like testing out the nodepool-builder images, should we use docker or podman? | 19:19 |
| ianw | or in that case, does it not matter so much? | 19:19 |
| clarkb | ianw: aiui mordred thinks we should use docker for now and keep podman to review(-dev) | 19:19 |
| clarkb | but I may have misunderstood and maybe he meant just don't go changing existing docker usage yet | 19:20 |
| clarkb | my hunch is that its probably ok for any new use of containers | 19:20 |
| ianw | ok | 19:21 |
| clarkb | #topic Storyboard | 19:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Storyboard (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:22 | |
| clarkb | fungi: ^ anything new from storyboard? I expect not given the summit | 19:23 |
| fungi | there was an sb onboarding session at the ptg, but nobody showed up so diablo_rojo_phon and tonyb turned it into an openstack technical election officials working session | 19:23 |
| fungi | other than that, nothing new i'm aware of | 19:23 |
| clarkb | #topic General topics | 19:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "General topics (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:24 | |
| clarkb | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/OpenDev-Shanghai-PTG-2019 PTG Notes | 19:24 |
| clarkb | I/we tried to take notes at the summit/forum/ptg | 19:24 |
| clarkb | The item on my todo list before opendev.org LE certification is to write up a summary and send it to the infra list | 19:25 |
| clarkb | I did want to point out that the etherpad is there for people to browse too and that if you have questions about specific topics feel free to ping me nowish and I'll add it to the summary or you can followup on that thread when it exists | 19:25 |
| clarkb | Our meeting with the gitea maintainers went well. We were able to show them some of our build and test tooling to test out the elasticsearch indexing | 19:26 |
| clarkb | from that we discovered that the china golang and google golang proxies had different content for the CORS package :/ | 19:27 |
| fungi | that's scary | 19:27 |
| clarkb | they also acknowledged that the performance issues we've hit are a major problem and they have other users struggling with that too. I hope that means we continue to see improvements with performance | 19:27 |
| fungi | though we also upgraded | 19:28 |
| fungi | and the new version should have at least some performance improvement over what we were running before last week | 19:29 |
| clarkb | Also their community is largely on discord and is activ ethere if we want to communicate with them further | 19:30 |
| clarkb | I've got a discord account somewhere, but I should prbably set that up for gitea now | 19:31 |
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| clarkb | and I'll try to write all this up properly between now and tomorrow sometime | 19:32 |
| clarkb | fungi: seems like there were wiki changes prior to leaving for the summit. Were you able to check on those? | 19:32 |
| fungi | nope | 19:32 |
| fungi | i mean yep some changes merged, nope i did not find time yet to follow up further | 19:33 |
| clarkb | For static.openstack.org mnaser volunteered to do the job changes on the openstack side of things | 19:34 |
| clarkb | ianw: AJaeger ^ I think that means our next step is to create afs volumes, then mnaser can upate jobs to publish to afs and static.o.o, we verify content, then flip things over site by site? | 19:35 |
| AJaeger | clarkb: I did the first jobs already, happy to hear that mnaser will do the rest! | 19:35 |
| AJaeger | clarkb: https://review.opendev.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/project-config+branch:master+topic:static-services | 19:35 |
| clarkb | thanks! | 19:35 |
| ianw | ok, i can look at the volumes for ^ | 19:35 |
| AJaeger | getting those jobs done helped to answer a couple of questions and finish the spec ;) | 19:36 |
| clarkb | I think we should be able to have both sites exist in parallel and then flip dns when we are happy with the new side of things | 19:36 |
| AJaeger | please check also whether those jobs are really doing what we wanted | 19:36 |
| clarkb | And finally we get to ask.openstack.org | 19:38 |
| clarkb | #link http://paste.openstack.org/show/785843/ Some logs | 19:38 |
| clarkb | these logs (that frickler collected?) seem to show there are segfaults | 19:38 |
| ianw | "or similar nasty error" | 19:40 |
| ianw | that's oddly unspecific | 19:40 |
| clarkb | one thing we can try if it is the log rotate that causes this is to ensure we are using copy truncate | 19:41 |
| clarkb | and not the rotate in place behavior | 19:41 |
| ianw | systemd-sysv-generator[6394]: Overwriting existing symlink /run/systemd/generator.late/jetty8.service with real service. | 19:42 |
| ianw | what does that mean? | 19:42 |
| ianw | it must be coming from puppet, it's very frequent | 19:42 |
| clarkb | ianw: if jetty is a sysv init script that may be a result of it setting up the compat shims | 19:43 |
| ianw | there's a /etc/init.d/jetty8~ file | 19:45 |
| ianw | i've removed that | 19:45 |
| clarkb | k | 19:45 |
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| ianw | /etc/init.d/jetty is a symlink to /etc/init.d/jetty8 | 19:46 |
| ianw | istr doing that as a total hack on the xenial upgrade | 19:46 |
| ianw | https://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/tree/src/sysv-generator/sysv-generator.c?id=4e5589836c9e143796c3f3d81e67ab7a9209e2b0#n166 suggests it's the backup file though | 19:47 |
| clarkb | I've not yet had time to look myself other than reading that paste of logs quickly | 19:49 |
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| clarkb | I'll add it to the todo list to see if anything obvious jumps out at me though | 19:49 |
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| clarkb | #topic Open Discussion | 19:50 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:50 | |
| clarkb | Anything else? | 19:50 |
| ianw | i'll try and keep an eye too ... but this server really does hang on by a thread :/ | 19:50 |
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| clarkb | y | 19:50 |
| clarkb | er yeah | 19:50 |
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| fungi | i've got nothing else | 19:51 |
| clarkb | As mentioned before the jet lag has been harsh. I'm trying to get back to a normal schedule but haven't quite managed it yet so will be in and out while I nap :) | 19:51 |
| clarkb | #endmeeting | 19:54 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 19:54 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 12 19:54:09 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:54 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2019/infra.2019-11-12-19.01.html | 19:54 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2019/infra.2019-11-12-19.01.txt | 19:54 |
| clarkb | Thank you everyone | 19:54 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2019/infra.2019-11-12-19.01.log.html | 19:54 |
| AJaeger | thanks, clarkb ! | 19:54 |
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| oneswig | ready to rumble? | 21:00 |
| rbudden | oh yeah | 21:00 |
| rbudden | :) | 21:00 |
| oneswig | #startmeeting scientific-sig | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 12 21:00:31 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is oneswig. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'scientific_sig' | 21:00 |
| oneswig | greetings! | 21:00 |
| martial | woohoo! | 21:00 |
| rbudden | hello! | 21:00 |
| martial | (rumble rumble) | 21:00 |
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| oneswig | #link Agenda for today https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Scientific_SIG#IRC_Meeting_November_12th_2019 | 21:01 |
| oneswig | #chair martial | 21:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: martial oneswig | 21:01 |
| oneswig | hey martial | 21:01 |
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| oneswig | How's things y'all? | 21:02 |
| martial | things are good, busy :) | 21:02 |
| martial | and getting ready SC19-rumble too ! | 21:02 |
| oneswig | awesome. What day is the BoF again? | 21:03 |
| rbudden | doing alright. busy. trying to the flu my son has attempted to bring back from daycare a second time ;) SC19 ahead! | 21:03 |
| rbudden | *to avoid* | 21:03 |
| martial | Tuesday? | 21:03 |
| oneswig | *I'm prepared, honestly* | 21:03 |
| rbudden | Wed 5:15pm | 21:03 |
| martial | so, Stig, back from China ... how was it? | 21:04 |
| oneswig | It was an interesting one. Quite a clash of culturs. | 21:04 |
| oneswig | Some oddly officious stuff - to get into the conference each day, passports and bag x-ray, like going through an airport. | 21:04 |
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| oneswig | The dual-language schedule worked sometimes, people made effort to make it work. | 21:05 |
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| martial | dual-language? | 21:06 |
| martial | oh wow did not realize it was going to be that different | 21:07 |
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| rbudden | yeah, i didn’t hear about that | 21:07 |
| rbudden | how’d that work? | 21:07 |
| oneswig | One of the Chinese language keynote speakers appeared to have an interesting take on the benefits of open source to the Chinese nation | 21:07 |
| martial | such as? | 21:07 |
| oneswig | The plenary sessions had translators. Everything else, you made a guess about what language it was going to be in. | 21:07 |
| martial | or should I not ask? | 21:07 |
| oneswig | There was a talk in chinese that I couldn't follow and wish I could have, on Tik-Tok (the video sharing site), and how they are using mlnx offloads. | 21:08 |
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| oneswig | Did you see the graphic Marco Passerini shared on the leading vendors for OpenStack deployments? | 21:09 |
| oneswig | martial: live translation worked well enough. Some amusing mis-translations (eg "bare metal" -> "naked machines") | 21:11 |
| martial | what was the link? | 21:11 |
| martial | funny indeed:) | 21:11 |
| rbudden | lol | 21:11 |
| oneswig | It was on slack earlier, don't have it to hand | 21:11 |
| oneswig | Overall numbers were about the same as Denver I think | 21:12 |
| oneswig | I think there was potential for much higher numbers (OpenStack days in Chinese cities are bigger than that), it'll be an interesting discussion point in the wash-up from this summit | 21:13 |
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| martial | seems a little sad given how many of the usual crowd was unable to attend | 21:14 |
| martial | where is the next one? | 21:14 |
| oneswig | There was a frequent theme in the talks, where one presenter would say "my colleagues couldn't join me because..." | 21:14 |
| oneswig | Next event's Vancouver again, but a tech summit without marketplace. | 21:14 |
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| rbudden | oh wow, Vancouver again | 21:14 |
| martial | Vancouver is a good one | 21:14 |
| oneswig | I think then Europe again around this time next year | 21:14 |
| jmlowe | Wait, did the next summit get announced? | 21:15 |
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| jmlowe | sorry, almost missed the meeting due to daylight savings change | 21:15 |
| oneswig | Kind of. I missed the announcement because the keynotes overran and I wanted to go to some forum sessions. | 21:15 |
| oneswig | Hi jmlowe, no worries. | 21:15 |
| jmlowe | Looking forward to seeing a number of you next week | 21:16 |
| oneswig | I haven't seen the plan for next year online anywhere | 21:16 |
| oneswig | jmlowe: me too. Didn't have a ticket for a bit earlier this week, which was... interesting. I think I never got the mails from spargo with the ticket details. | 21:17 |
| oneswig | I have it now. | 21:17 |
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| oneswig | martial: do you use Grafana? | 21:17 |
| oneswig | Is it part of a Data Machines product? | 21:17 |
| martial | it is part of the tool set we have indeed | 21:18 |
| martial | also prometheus | 21:19 |
| oneswig | There was some concern in the corridors about changes to the t&cs here https://grafana.com/trademark-policy/ which mean products incorporating grafana now require the written permission of grafana labs. | 21:19 |
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| martial | oh weird | 21:19 |
| oneswig | indeed, weird. We don't make a product so the details somewhat passed me by. | 21:20 |
| martial | how do you define "incorporating"? ... started as part of a docker-compose? | 21:20 |
| oneswig | I would have thought more generally than that. If it's installed as part of something you sell. | 21:21 |
| martial | we do not sell products per say so still kind of hard to "grasp" but thanks will pass the info along | 21:21 |
| martial | was Blair there with you? | 21:21 |
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| oneswig | No, not this time. Sam Morrison and Andy Botting were holding the fort for the antipodeans, did a great job. | 21:22 |
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| oneswig | The major disappointment for the SIG was the scheduling of SIG time. It was a table in the PTG, which meant there weren't many operators around. But also, there were almost no locals in the PTG. And there wasn't a cross-project time when (eg) the Ironic cores could come along and join in. | 21:24 |
| oneswig | As a result, there were ~4 of us compared with ~100 on a good summit. | 21:24 |
| jmlowe | It's so much easier for a number of us to go to, well, anywhere but China | 21:26 |
| oneswig | jmlowe: yeah, that was a running theme. | 21:27 |
| rbudden | heh | 21:27 |
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| martial | still a bummer | 21:28 |
| trandles | Hi folks | 21:29 |
| oneswig | I hope the foundation managed to stir up some interest in the open source community among the locals, but it did look like a cultural divide. | 21:29 |
| oneswig | hi trandles, just in time :-) | 21:29 |
| trandles | Sorry, home sick today and lost track of the time | 21:29 |
| oneswig | get well soon, you've got a flight to catch | 21:30 |
| trandles | Lol yeah...started on Friday, yesterday was rough but I'm over the hump I think. Should be in the office tomorrow. | 21:30 |
| trandles | Reading back...I haven't seen any formal announcement on upcoming summits, but Vancouver would be good. | 21:31 |
| trandles | Did anyone (other than Tim Bell) notice that neutron is talking about deprecating linuxbridge support? I know some of this community, including CERN, was using it everywhere. | 21:31 |
| oneswig | yes I saw that and am surprised by it. | 21:32 |
| oneswig | I think it's still the simplest and fastest of the software bridges. | 21:32 |
| trandles | Definitely the simplest. Has OVS performance ever caught up? | 21:32 |
| oneswig | No. | 21:32 |
| oneswig | At least, it hadn't last week when we last tried it. | 21:32 |
| rbudden | This surprises me. It’s definitely the simplest. | 21:33 |
| oneswig | Actually, correction, that was OVS vs Tungsten Fabric | 21:33 |
| trandles | hrm...maybe this SIG needs to speak up then | 21:33 |
| oneswig | jmlowe: you still using it at large scale? | 21:33 |
| rbudden | Though OVS had a decent set of tools for debugging, etc that was nice | 21:33 |
| jmlowe | I also picked up a pre SC cold on Friday | 21:34 |
| trandles | One of the reasons they cite is feature set falling behind other solutions. Conversely, the simplicity is nice when you care about raw performance. | 21:34 |
| jmlowe | I'm not happy about this linuxbridge deprecation | 21:34 |
| oneswig | trandles: +1 for me | 21:34 |
| jmlowe | I'm still using linuxbridge at least through 2020 | 21:35 |
| oneswig | I think the issue is nobody's stepping in to look after it with the Neutron project. | 21:35 |
| oneswig | Those people are I expect all paid to work on shiny stuff. | 21:35 |
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| jmlowe | oneswig : ever test the performance of ovs vs ovn? | 21:37 |
| oneswig | Funny you should ask. | 21:37 |
| oneswig | I benchmarked it for Sydney - 2 years ago - using 100G CX5 NICs | 21:38 |
| oneswig | 1 sec | 21:38 |
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| jmlowe | for bonus points ever try the ovs offload in connect-x cards? | 21:39 |
| oneswig | yes it's brilliant, like flossing with dynamite | 21:40 |
| oneswig | occasionally, it blows up :-) | 21:40 |
| martial | oh well the advantage of having disposable hardware :) | 21:40 |
| oneswig | Just uploading the presentation somewhere. | 21:41 |
| trandles | oneswig, saw the foundation announcement, congrats | 21:41 |
| oneswig | trandles: thanks :-) | 21:42 |
| rbudden | ? | 21:42 |
| rbudden | i think i missed the memo | 21:42 |
| oneswig | Here's the slides http://www.stackhpc.com/resources/5-ways-with-hypervisor-networking.pdf | 21:42 |
| oneswig | rbudden: we got ourselves on the marketplace and joined the foundation, that's all :-) | 21:43 |
| rbudden | oh nice :) | 21:43 |
| jmlowe | on the upside I did see that sriov live migration is a thing in train | 21:43 |
| oneswig | jmlowe: I believe so, with Netronome smart NICs | 21:44 |
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| jmlowe | bah, I didn't see that qualifier | 21:44 |
| oneswig | On that presentation linked above, there's OVN vs OVS vs LinuxBridge vs SR-IOV vs ASAP2 - look for a slide titled "TPC/IP performance - iperf" | 21:44 |
| oneswig | NB We tested OVN again last week and it was better than this but still not the quickest thing out there. | 21:45 |
| oneswig | Actually, I hear the hardware OVS offload is a good deal more mature now and in production at large scale. | 21:49 |
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| jmlowe | looks like ASAP2 might be a real contender | 21:51 |
| oneswig | I think so, potentially. It would be good to see how performance degrades with increasing numbers of flows but at any level it will beat a software switch by a huge margin. | 21:53 |
| oneswig | We should talk SC | 21:53 |
| oneswig | Any good schedule picks? | 21:54 |
| jmlowe | Well there's this workshop Monday morning | 21:54 |
| martial | which one is that? | 21:55 |
| martial | Monday afternoon is CANOPIE | 21:55 |
| martial | on Sunday I will be at "The Next Platform" event | 21:56 |
| martial | ah bummer, Monday is also the "NVIDIA 2019 Special Address" | 21:56 |
| oneswig | I'll be keeping an eye out for AMD GPU performance comparisons. | 21:57 |
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| oneswig | Where's the best barbecue? | 21:58 |
| oneswig | Nearly time to close, alas | 21:59 |
| rbudden | no idea, but we know the Ramen spot if you’re interested ;) | 21:59 |
| oneswig | I'll be at Sams #3, the diner | 22:00 |
| oneswig | OK y'all time to stop. | 22:00 |
| oneswig | #endmeeting | 22:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 12 22:00:49 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:00 |
| oneswig | Thanks all | 22:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2019/scientific_sig.2019-11-12-21.00.html | 22:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2019/scientific_sig.2019-11-12-21.00.txt | 22:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2019/scientific_sig.2019-11-12-21.00.log.html | 22:00 |
| rbudden | cya! | 22:01 |
| martial | Thanks Stig and team; see you next week :) | 22:01 |
| oneswig | already looking forward to it! | 22:01 |
| rbudden | indeed, see everyone next week! | 22:01 |
| trandles | See folks next week. Safe travels | 22:01 |
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