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zhangchi | #startmeeting-tricircle | 01:28 |
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openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 01:28 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to '_tricircle' | 01:28 |
zhangchi | Hello all welcome to join tricirlce bio-weekly meeting | 01:33 |
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zhangchi | sorry. I left for a while. I just had a meeting. | 02:13 |
zhangchi | #endmeeting tricircle | 02:13 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 16 02:13:14 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 02:13 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/_tricircle/2019/_tricircle.2019-10-16-01.28.html | 02:13 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/_tricircle/2019/_tricircle.2019-10-16-01.28.txt | 02:13 |
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liuyulong | hi | 13:57 |
liuyulong_ | hi | 13:57 |
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liuyulong | seems the connection is not so much good... | 13:57 |
liuyulong | #startmeeting neutron_l3 | 13:59 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 16 13:59:03 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is liuyulong. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:59 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:59 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_l3' | 13:59 |
liuyulong | #chair liuyulong_ | 13:59 |
openstack | Current chairs: liuyulong liuyulong_ | 13:59 |
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liuyulong | OK, wait a few minute for more people... | 14:00 |
slaweq | hi | 14:01 |
liuyulong_ | hi | 14:01 |
liuyulong_ | #chair slaweq | 14:02 |
openstack | Current chairs: liuyulong liuyulong_ slaweq | 14:02 |
liuyulong | #chair slaweq | 14:02 |
openstack | Current chairs: liuyulong liuyulong_ slaweq | 14:02 |
ralonsoh | hi | 14:02 |
slaweq | haleyb: njohnston_ ralonsoh bcafarel tidwellr: L3 team meeting, are You joining? | 14:02 |
haleyb | hi | 14:03 |
bcafarel | o/ | 14:03 |
haleyb | i'm half here | 14:03 |
slaweq | ping works ;) | 14:03 |
slaweq | hi :) | 14:03 |
bcafarel | half a haleyb is already good :) | 14:03 |
liuyulong_ | #chair haleyb | 14:03 |
openstack | Current chairs: haleyb liuyulong liuyulong_ slaweq | 14:03 |
liuyulong_ | Add more chairs just in case if I lose the connection... | 14:03 |
slaweq | so "hal" or "eyb" is on the meeting? | 14:03 |
slaweq | ;) | 14:04 |
bcafarel | :) | 14:04 |
liuyulong_ | OK, let's start | 14:04 |
liuyulong_ | #topic Announcements | 14:04 |
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liuyulong_ | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Shanghai-Neutron-Planning | 14:05 |
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liuyulong_ | One more time for collecting topics... | 14:05 |
liuyulong_ | slaweq you will schedule all these topics to one specific PTG time slot right? | 14:06 |
slaweq | liuyulong_: yes, I will work on agenda | 14:06 |
liuyulong_ | slaweq, maybe not 'all', just some of them. | 14:07 |
slaweq | I want to start working on it in the week before summit | 14:07 |
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liuyulong | sorry, I lost the connection, I'm home when we have the L3 meeting, there must be heavy load on internet export of the building or community every night. | 14:12 |
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liuyulong | Am I missed something? | 14:13 |
liuyulong | ping... | 14:13 |
bcafarel | liuyulong: if you got slaweq saying "I'll handle it" regarding planning you're all good :) | 14:14 |
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slaweq | bcafarel: I have to handle that ;) | 14:15 |
slaweq | so I will try to do my best | 14:15 |
bcafarel | knowing you that will be more than enough! | 14:15 |
slaweq | liuyulong: please just add as many topics to the etherpad as You want :) | 14:16 |
slaweq | liuyulong: and don't worry about agenda | 14:16 |
slaweq | bcafarel: thx :) | 14:16 |
liuyulong_ | I'm back... and reading the log... | 14:16 |
liuyulong_ | slaweq, thanks, it will be great, : ) | 14:17 |
liuyulong_ | next thing is the team dinner during every summit, slaweq just mentioned me that on Monday, and I've never joined that ever. | 14:19 |
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slaweq | liuyulong_: I see that people are putting info about possible dates in etherpad | 14:19 |
slaweq | so far it looks for me that Tue or Wed will be the best day | 14:20 |
slaweq | but lets wait few more days until we will start looking for something | 14:20 |
liuyulong_ | OK, I see that | 14:21 |
liuyulong_ | so, where should be the best place for the dinner? near the hotel ? | 14:22 |
liuyulong_ | Four Points by Sheraton Shanghai, Pudong - Address: No 2111 Pudong Nan Road, Shanghai, Shanghai, 200127, China | 14:24 |
liuyulong_ | This is the Travel Support booked hotel for me. | 14:24 |
slaweq | liuyulong_: lets talk about it later and focus here on L3 stuff maybe :) | 14:25 |
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njohnston_ | o/ | 14:25 |
liuyulong_ | slaweq, sure | 14:27 |
liuyulong_ | Move on | 14:28 |
liuyulong_ | #topic Bugs | 14:28 |
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liuyulong_ | No deputy bug report mail received this week, so let's go through the LP bug list. | 14:30 |
liuyulong_ | sorry, it is here | 14:31 |
liuyulong_ | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-October/010107.html | 14:31 |
liuyulong_ | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1847019 | 14:31 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1847019 in neutron "test_update_firewall_calls_get_dvr_hosts_for_router failure on rocky" [Critical,In progress] | 14:31 |
liuyulong_ | The patch is merged | 14:32 |
bcafarel | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/687085/ yes | 14:32 |
liuyulong_ | This LP bug status is not right, I guess. | 14:32 |
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liuyulong_ | Next | 14:35 |
liuyulong_ | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1847203 | 14:35 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1847203 in neutron "l3-agent stops processing router updates" [Undecided,New] | 14:35 |
slaweq | right, LP bug status is not changed when "only" patch for stable branch is merged | 14:35 |
slaweq | I will update it manually now | 14:35 |
liuyulong_ | Some possible reasons could be the centralized lock or the wrapper deamon. | 14:38 |
liuyulong_ | We have done some optimizing work in master branch, but some of them are never backported to stable branches. | 14:39 |
liuyulong_ | If there are large sets of routers for the L3 agent, the router sometimes can indeed blocked a really long time before staring processing. | 14:39 |
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liuyulong_ | We met such similar issue. | 14:41 |
slaweq | but in this case, according to what reported said, it's not like it takes long time to process router | 14:41 |
slaweq | but there is nothing in logs simply, like agent would hangs | 14:42 |
liuyulong_ | Here are some optimization measures: 1. set use_helper_for_ns_read = False and root_helper_daemon= for l3-agent in l3_agent.ini | 14:42 |
liuyulong_ | 2. upgrade to stable/stein cloud catch most of those patch sets, or backport the related patches... | 14:43 |
liuyulong_ | That's all L3 related bugs from the deputy. | 14:45 |
liuyulong_ | Sorry, I can not see any response from the freenode server... | 14:46 |
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haleyb | periodic_sync_routers_task() doesn't have to do anything, it can just return, it's running via the oslo_service library | 14:47 |
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liuyulong_ | haleyb, slaweq, please take over the meeting, I may not be able to handle it now... | 14:49 |
liuyulong | haleyb, slaweq, please take over the meeting, I may not be able to handle it now... | 14:49 |
haleyb | liuyulong: ack | 14:49 |
haleyb | slaweq: i'll add a comment to the bug about putting a LOG.debug when it returns because there's nothing to do, and ask about oslo-service version | 14:50 |
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slaweq | haleyb: I think I already asked for some additional debug log from them, You can explain in more detailed way where to put such additional logging | 14:51 |
haleyb | slaweq: ack | 14:52 |
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haleyb | i have another meeting.... | 14:55 |
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ralonsoh | time is over | 14:59 |
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haleyb | #endmeeting | 14:59 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 16 14:59:15 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:59 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2019/neutron_l3.2019-10-16-13.59.html | 14:59 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2019/neutron_l3.2019-10-16-13.59.txt | 14:59 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2019/neutron_l3.2019-10-16-13.59.log.html | 14:59 |
slaweq | o/ | 15:01 |
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jungleboyj | #startmeeting Cinder | 16:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 16 16:01:35 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jungleboyj. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
smcginnis | o/ | 16:01 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' | 16:01 |
davidsha | o/ | 16:01 |
geguileo | hi! o/ | 16:01 |
jungleboyj | @! | 16:01 |
_pewp_ | jungleboyj (✧∇✧)╯ | 16:01 |
eharney | hi | 16:01 |
e0ne | hi | 16:02 |
tosky | o/ | 16:02 |
carloss | hi | 16:02 |
lseki | hi | 16:02 |
davee__ | o/ | 16:02 |
jungleboyj | Howdy everyone. | 16:02 |
davee__ | greetings all | 16:03 |
jungleboyj | Give everyone another minute to join. | 16:03 |
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walshh_ | hi all | 16:04 |
jungleboyj | Ok. Lets get started. | 16:05 |
jungleboyj | Our last Train meeting. | 16:05 |
jungleboyj | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-train-meetings | 16:05 |
jungleboyj | And, therefore I guess the last meeting that I will be running. :-) | 16:06 |
jungleboyj | #topic announcements | 16:06 |
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jungleboyj | So, next week we will switch to the Usurri meeting etherpad. | 16:06 |
jungleboyj | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-ussuri-meetings | 16:06 |
jungleboyj | If you have topics for next week please put them in there. | 16:07 |
jungleboyj | BTW, Brian isn't feeling well today so I am going to run things. | 16:08 |
jungleboyj | For this meeting. | 16:08 |
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jungleboyj | Anyway, want to get feedback on how to handle the ping list. | 16:08 |
jungleboyj | Brian has copied it over right now. Do we want to keep the current list or remove it and start fresh? | 16:09 |
* jungleboyj hears crickets | 16:09 | |
e0ne | AFAIR, we usually start with an empty list each release | 16:09 |
smcginnis | I think start fresh. | 16:09 |
davee__ | start fresh to trim dead weight | 16:09 |
smcginnis | Kind of the reason to have a new etherpad anyway... | 16:10 |
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jungleboyj | Ok, so, I will add a new ping list out there and give it a couple of meetings then we will remove the old list. | 16:10 |
jungleboyj | Thanks for the feedback. | 16:11 |
jungleboyj | Reminder to please add to the PTG planning list: | 16:11 |
jungleboyj | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-ussuri-ptg-planning | 16:11 |
jungleboyj | Not a lot of content right now. Don't want to go all the way to Shanghai for nothing. ;-) | 16:11 |
davee__ | frequent flier miles for that trip is not exactly nothing ;) | 16:12 |
smcginnis | Maybe a good task for Brian to post the ML to try to get some topic on there from the Chinese community. | 16:12 |
jungleboyj | davee__: True. And I am already Comfort + there and back. | 16:13 |
whoami-rajat | Hi | 16:13 |
jungleboyj | Ok. So, Forum Sessions. We have these two accepted: | 16:14 |
jungleboyj | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/shanghai-2019/summit-schedule/events/24404/how-are-you-using-cinders-volume-types | 16:14 |
jungleboyj | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/shanghai-2019/summit-schedule/events/24403/are-you-using-upgrade-checks | 16:14 |
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jungleboyj | If you have notes, discussion points, etc. on these please add them here: | 16:14 |
jungleboyj | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-shanghai-forum-proposals | 16:14 |
jungleboyj | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-shanghai-forum-proposals | 16:15 |
jungleboyj | We will get them into etherpads for discussion at the summit. | 16:15 |
jungleboyj | Ok. That was what I had for announcements. | 16:15 |
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jungleboyj | #topic follow-up discussion on Removing Legacy Attach Code in Nova | 16:15 |
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jungleboyj | So, we said we would continue this discussion this week. | 16:15 |
jungleboyj | geguileo: mriedem Updates here? | 16:16 |
geguileo | jungleboyj: I had a look at the mail thread, replied, and then got dragged into fixing FC in OS-Brick, so I'm not up to date with the conversation | 16:16 |
jungleboyj | geguileo: Ok. I don't think there was a lot more discussion after your last note. | 16:17 |
geguileo | jungleboyj: I think there was a reply | 16:17 |
geguileo | jungleboyj: but in summary I don't think Nova should try to find a flow with what we have that works for all cases | 16:18 |
jungleboyj | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-October/010066.html | 16:18 |
geguileo | I think we should add new functionality to Cinder | 16:18 |
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jungleboyj | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-October/010069.html | 16:18 |
smcginnis | That sounded like the best path forward. | 16:18 |
geguileo | one that allows them to add the connection_info | 16:18 |
jungleboyj | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-October/010071.html | 16:18 |
geguileo | on the Cinder attachment object | 16:18 |
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jungleboyj | geguileo: Ok, and I think that was the general agreement for last week's meeting as well. | 16:19 |
smcginnis | I get a vague feeling that was discussed with John as these APIs were being designed and shot down, but I have no idea why at this point. | 16:19 |
smcginnis | Maybe it was a slightly different idea though. | 16:19 |
geguileo | I don't know | 16:19 |
jungleboyj | smcginnis: That does feel slightly familiar. | 16:19 |
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geguileo | but I think that that's the option that reduces the chances of finding weird bugs | 16:20 |
smcginnis | Well, unless someone steps forward with an argument of why it shouldn't be done, I think it makes sense given the current use case. | 16:20 |
geguileo | that will be blamed on Cinder even if it's not our "fault" | 16:20 |
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geguileo | smcginnis: +1 | 16:20 |
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smcginnis | Tangential, but Matt had a good idea for a tempest plugin test to enforce the initialize_connection issue. | 16:21 |
smcginnis | But then, that's only really useful if the CIs actually run with the tempest plugin, which I think right now they do not. | 16:21 |
smcginnis | At least the majority of them. | 16:21 |
davee__ | user:: I didn't say it was your fault, I said I blamed you | 16:21 |
geguileo | smcginnis: what was that meant to test? | 16:22 |
mriedem | that creating more than 1 attachment with the same host connector doesn't result in multiple backend connections | 16:22 |
mriedem | i.e. that the driver code was idempotent i think | 16:22 |
smcginnis | The after the fact assumption enforced by nova that calling initialize_connection multiple times would be idempotent. | 16:22 |
geguileo | mriedem: but that's not a requirement in Cinder | 16:22 |
smcginnis | davee__: ++ :D | 16:22 |
geguileo | mriedem: it's something that we should have been explicit about, but we weren't | 16:23 |
geguileo | because we don't have the driver interface properly documented | 16:23 |
mriedem | given the api isn't even documented i'm not sure how anyone outside of digging into the cinder code would know the intentions of the api | 16:23 |
tosky | smcginnis: let's start from the basics: how do we force he CIs to run the tests from cinder_tempest_plugin? | 16:23 |
smcginnis | tosky: Best we've been able to come up with is a periodic review of what they are actually running. | 16:24 |
jungleboyj | tosky: Oh, that is a whole other discussion. | 16:24 |
jungleboyj | smcginnis: ++ | 16:24 |
smcginnis | Since everyone reports a slightly different format, hard to automate the checking. | 16:24 |
tosky | it may be useful for other tests too | 16:24 |
mriedem | before going off and adding a spec and new API for updating the connection_info on an attachment, geguileo should probably read my response | 16:24 |
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mriedem | because i also feel like jgriffith would be rolling in his grave talking about adding that :) | 16:24 |
smcginnis | :D | 16:24 |
jungleboyj | Ha! | 16:25 |
geguileo | mriedem: I will read the reply, but I don't think my recommendation will change... | 16:25 |
smcginnis | If we say his name three times, maybe he'll show up and review it. ;) | 16:25 |
jungleboyj | https://gph.is/1u23SD7 | 16:26 |
jungleboyj | smcginnis: You mean jgriffith | 16:26 |
geguileo | the 2 APIs were not meant to be mixed | 16:26 |
davee__ | smcginnis: or stab you in the ear with a Q-tip | 16:26 |
mriedem | what is wrong with this again: | 16:26 |
mriedem | 1. create new attachment, | 16:26 |
mriedem | 2. complete that attachment, | 16:26 |
mriedem | 3. call os-terminate_connection for the old attachment with the old host connector? | 16:26 |
mriedem | well, the order there is wrong | 16:27 |
geguileo | #2 may create a different mapping on the backend or may not | 16:27 |
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mriedem | how is that different from migrating a server? | 16:28 |
jungleboyj | I was going to say that this would be good for a cross project discussion (yelling across the room we will be in) but mriedem is lucky enough to avoid the trip across the pond. | 16:29 |
mriedem | i.e. create a new attachment on dest host, terminate the connection for the source host, complete the dest host attachment to put the volume back into in-use status | 16:29 |
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geguileo | mriedem: because migrating uses 2 different hosts | 16:29 |
geguileo | mriedem: and the bug in Nova where it was calling Cinder initialization a second time was fixed | 16:30 |
mriedem | i'd have to confirm but i wouldn't be surprised if we do ^ for same-host resize as well | 16:30 |
mriedem | geguileo: you're talking about live migratoin right | 16:30 |
mriedem | ? | 16:30 |
geguileo | mriedem: yup | 16:30 |
mriedem | i mean even just simple same-host resize | 16:30 |
geguileo | mriedem: then you may get a similar bug | 16:31 |
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geguileo | I don't know the Nova code | 16:31 |
mriedem | which would have been around since....forever | 16:31 |
mriedem | i would need to confirm we do that for same host resize but i don't have anything coming to mind that we treat same-host resize different wrt volumes | 16:31 |
mriedem | anyway we can move to the ML thread again | 16:32 |
mriedem | and yeah i won't be in shanghai | 16:32 |
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jungleboyj | Ok. Lets move this to the ML if you can keep working this geguileo ? | 16:34 |
geguileo | mriedem: the paths of old terminate and removing an attachment are completely different | 16:34 |
mriedem | not from a nova pov | 16:35 |
geguileo | rofl rofl rofl | 16:35 |
geguileo | good for you | 16:35 |
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mriedem | my point is if this is a problem where the host doesn't change for some drivers, it's been a problem forever | 16:35 |
geguileo | you say it as if that would surprise you... | 16:36 |
mriedem | no it wouldn't | 16:37 |
mriedem | nothing surprises me in openstack anymore | 16:37 |
mriedem | i'm surprised when shit *works* | 16:37 |
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jungleboyj | Ok. Lets move on to the other topics and we can keep working this one in the channel or through the ML. | 16:38 |
jungleboyj | Any disagreement? | 16:38 |
mriedem | nope | 16:39 |
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jungleboyj | Okie dokie. | 16:41 |
jungleboyj | #topic Team Dinner at Shanghai PTG. | 16:41 |
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jungleboyj | Anyone interested in doing this? | 16:41 |
e0ne | +1 | 16:41 |
jungleboyj | There is 1 yes. | 16:41 |
jungleboyj | e0ne: You will be there? | 16:42 |
geguileo | jungleboyj: +1 | 16:42 |
e0ne | jungleboyj: yes, just booked a hotel and flights | 16:42 |
smcginnis | I like food. | 16:42 |
jungleboyj | Oh yeah, there have been some updates in the etherpad. | 16:42 |
jungleboyj | Actually have a good list of people there. | 16:43 |
jungleboyj | smcginnis: So do I. Too much. | 16:43 |
jungleboyj | Ok, so, it sounds like there is interest. I will work with Brian to plan something. | 16:44 |
lseki | +1 | 16:44 |
geguileo | jungleboyj: thanks! | 16:44 |
jungleboyj | #action jungleboyj to work with rosmaita to plan a dinner. Can talk about nights, etc in next week's meeting. | 16:44 |
jungleboyj | #topic recording of PTG meetings | 16:45 |
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jungleboyj | So, Given the great firewall, I am trying to decide what we want to do here. | 16:45 |
jungleboyj | I am going to sign up for a VPN that is supposed to work, but who knows. | 16:46 |
jungleboyj | I am also only taking my work laptop. Not personal one. | 16:47 |
e0ne | as a backup plan, we can record it and publish videos after the PTG | 16:47 |
jungleboyj | I see that we have a few people listed as remote attendees. | 16:47 |
jungleboyj | e0ne: True. Also concerned by the fact that we are all going to be in one big room. | 16:48 |
smcginnis | I like that plan e0ne. | 16:48 |
geguileo | jungleboyj: true, everyone in one room should not be great for remotees | 16:48 |
smcginnis | Even if we can't do real time, we can at least record things for others to watch later. | 16:48 |
smcginnis | You know, if they have trouble sleeping or something. | 16:48 |
jungleboyj | smcginnis: So we will have at least content like I the other events. | 16:48 |
geguileo | yeah, that would be nice | 16:49 |
whoami-rajat | Glad I'm not remote this time :) | 16:49 |
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davee__ | can anyone point out where to find more info on doing that remote since I cannot attend this one? | 16:49 |
jungleboyj | Ok. So I will still bring my big Mic and camera. | 16:49 |
jungleboyj | davee__: Well, we will put info in the etherpad and IRC as it happens if we are able to do so. | 16:50 |
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jungleboyj | I will need someone to take over recording on the second day as I will be in TC meetings. | 16:50 |
jungleboyj | Ok. That answers my question there. | 16:51 |
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jungleboyj | #topic Update of legacy jobs for moving to py3 only. | 16:51 |
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jungleboyj | Who added this topic? | 16:52 |
smcginnis | Ah, that'd be me. | 16:52 |
jungleboyj | :-) | 16:52 |
smcginnis | Just a heads up to start thinking or researching. | 16:52 |
jungleboyj | smcginnis: Take it away. | 16:52 |
smcginnis | I know we have a PTG topic to talk about moving to py3 only. | 16:53 |
smcginnis | One thing that I saw somewhere was a mention that some of the legacy jobs may not be set up right to run on a py3-only node. | 16:53 |
smcginnis | I'm not sure if we are impacted or not. | 16:53 |
smcginnis | We have the LIO-barbican job. | 16:53 |
smcginnis | And I think we run a few others that are not in-tree. | 16:53 |
tosky | if a certain zuul patch lands, we may quickly kill a few of the legacy jobs | 16:53 |
smcginnis | OK, great. Thanks tosky. | 16:54 |
smcginnis | I don't really have the bandwidth to investigate, so I wanted to at least make sure others were aware of it. | 16:54 |
tosky | (see my pending patches; of course you all can start checking if they do what they are supposed to do in the meantime :) | 16:54 |
smcginnis | tosky: Do you have a link to that patch? | 16:54 |
smcginnis | Would be great if folks could review those and get them through. | 16:54 |
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smcginnis | That would be one less concern for the migration. | 16:54 |
smcginnis | Nothings finalized with the overall plan, but the hope is to be able to drop py2 support by milestone 1. | 16:55 |
smcginnis | So really just a couple months to identify any blockers to doing that. | 16:55 |
smcginnis | And personally, I really wish I had more time to rip out all that compat code. :) | 16:55 |
tosky | uhm, https://review.opendev.org/#/q/status:open+owner:%22Luigi+Toscano+%253Cltoscano%2540redhat.com%253E%22++topic:zuulv3 | 16:55 |
smcginnis | Awesome, thanks tosky | 16:56 |
jungleboyj | https://gph.is/2F9U7tV | 16:56 |
tosky | and also this zuul patch: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/674334/ (but you can see that from the dependency) | 16:56 |
smcginnis | Cool, I will try to review those later. | 16:57 |
jungleboyj | Cool. | 16:57 |
smcginnis | I guess that's all from me. Running out of time anyway. | 16:57 |
jungleboyj | Anything else there smcginnis | 16:57 |
smcginnis | Nope | 16:57 |
jungleboyj | Ok. | 16:57 |
jungleboyj | #topic open discussion | 16:57 |
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jungleboyj | Any topics for the last 3 minutes/ | 16:57 |
anastzhyr | In the end, I wanted to say hello to everyone, I am a newbie in Cinder | 16:57 |
jungleboyj | anastzhyr: Welcome! | 16:57 |
anastzhyr | And I wanted to contribute to Cinder+Tempest | 16:58 |
tosky | as a follow-up to my previous question (how do we force 3rd party CIs to run the cinder_tempest_plugin?) | 16:58 |
jungleboyj | anastzhyr: Let us know if you have questions. | 16:58 |
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tosky | welcome anastzhyr | 16:58 |
anastzhyr | And I would be happy for any help and support in my first steps in open source | 16:58 |
jungleboyj | tosky: Need to go through the logs and see who is running them and not. | 16:58 |
anastzhyr | Thanks a lot | 16:58 |
smcginnis | Welcome anastzhyr! | 16:59 |
tosky | jungleboyj: I guess we don't have a unified log place; but do all of them at least publish the subunit file? | 16:59 |
tosky | we can probably discuss it after the meeting, or next week | 16:59 |
whoami-rajat | tosky: I think improving the test coverage in cinder-tempest-plugin is also a related topic | 16:59 |
jungleboyj | whoami-rajat: ++ | 16:59 |
smcginnis | tosky: They should be. But then, they also should be running the plugin tests. | 16:59 |
smcginnis | And should be running py3, and should be ..... | 16:59 |
anastzhyr | Right now I start with unit tests for creating and deleting volumes | 17:00 |
jungleboyj | There isn't a unified log location. | 17:00 |
tosky | the two issues can be solved in parallel (making sure that the CIs run the plugin, and that the test coverage is increased) | 17:00 |
smcginnis | Times up | 17:00 |
jungleboyj | I usually start with http://cinderstats.ivehearditbothways.com/cireport.txt and go look at what they push up. | 17:00 |
tosky | ack, thanks! | 17:00 |
jungleboyj | Ok. We need to stop for today. We can take this discussion to the cinder channel. | 17:00 |
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jungleboyj | anastzhyr: Join us in #openstack-cinder if you have more question. | 17:00 |
jungleboyj | Thanks everyone! | 17:00 |
whoami-rajat | Thanks! | 17:00 |
jungleboyj | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 16 17:00:59 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:01 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2019/cinder.2019-10-16-16.01.html | 17:01 |
davidsha | Thanks! | 17:01 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2019/cinder.2019-10-16-16.01.txt | 17:01 |
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timburke | #startmeeting swift | 21:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 16 21:00:25 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is timburke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'swift' | 21:00 |
timburke | who's here for the swift meeting? | 21:00 |
kota_ | hello | 21:01 |
rledisez | o/ | 21:01 |
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tdasilva | o/ | 21:02 |
timburke | agenda's at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Swift | 21:02 |
alecuyer | o/ | 21:02 |
timburke | i saw a few interesting things this week, so let's jump right in | 21:02 |
timburke | #topic shanghai | 21:02 |
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timburke | it's coming up so quickly! less than three weeks away! | 21:03 |
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timburke | etherpad's at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift-ptg-shanghai | 21:03 |
timburke | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift-ptg-shanghai | 21:03 |
timburke | and i need to start putting slides together :-) | 21:03 |
timburke | mainly just wanted to do a quick reminder about the etherpad again | 21:04 |
timburke | #topic train release | 21:04 |
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timburke | the openstack train release is officially out! | 21:04 |
timburke | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-October/010156.html | 21:05 |
kota_ | good | 21:05 |
timburke | a few last-minute py3 bugs were identified in swift, but zaitcev, tdasilva, and clayg were really fast to review them | 21:06 |
timburke | and backports are already landed on stable/train | 21:06 |
timburke | i've got a changelog update at https://review.opendev.org/#/c/688848/ | 21:06 |
patchbot | patch 688848 - swift (stable/train) - CHANGELOG for 2.23.1 - 1 patch set | 21:06 |
timburke | and i'll aim to have a 2.23.1 release later this week | 21:06 |
timburke | bug fixes were p 688767, p 688766, p 688769, p 688768, and p 688808 | 21:07 |
patchbot | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/688767/ - swift (stable/train) - Fix kms_keymaster under Python 3 (MERGED) - 1 patch set | 21:07 |
patchbot | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/688766/ - swift (stable/train) - py3: Fix swift-drive-audit (MERGED) - 1 patch set | 21:07 |
patchbot | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/688769/ - swift (stable/train) - py3: Fix swift-recon (MERGED) - 1 patch set | 21:08 |
patchbot | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/688768/ - swift (stable/train) - py3: fix swift-dispersion-populate (MERGED) - 1 patch set | 21:08 |
patchbot | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/688808/ - swift (stable/train) - py3: fix swift-account-audit (MERGED) - 1 patch set | 21:08 |
tdasilva | interesting that p 688848 builds a docker image, if it gets promoted in docker hub, i might be table to tag with a release 2.23.1 | 21:08 |
patchbot | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/688848/ - swift (stable/train) - CHANGELOG for 2.23.1 - 1 patch set | 21:08 |
timburke | speaking of releases and images... | 21:09 |
timburke | #topic centos8 images are available | 21:09 |
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timburke | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-October/010146.html | 21:09 |
tdasilva | timburke: can we also backport the build py3 docker images patch? | 21:09 |
timburke | tdasilva, i think that seems reasonable | 21:10 |
timburke | centos8 is mostly just an fyi. i know we use centos7 for our probe tests, maybe i'll finally sort out how to make probe tests run in the gate on py3 | 21:10 |
timburke | more release news... | 21:10 |
timburke | #topic py38 | 21:11 |
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timburke | if you missed it, python 3.8 is out! | 21:11 |
timburke | #link https://docs.python.org/3/whatsnew/3.8.html | 21:11 |
timburke | i've already started trying it out (since i've still got py3 freshly loaded into my head) | 21:11 |
timburke | a few bugs shook out, like the arg to pickle.load() needing to implement readinto() and the cgi module losing some functions | 21:13 |
timburke | but on the whole, seems pretty tame! not sure when it'll be available for gate jobs, though | 21:13 |
timburke | and on the topic of cpython... | 21:14 |
timburke | #topic dropping support for py2 within openstack | 21:14 |
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timburke | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-October/010142.html | 21:14 |
alecuyer | Oh I saw that.. but some of your py3 patches are still pending right? | 21:15 |
timburke | discussions have started regarding when and how and with what sort of communication projects can start dropping py2 support | 21:15 |
timburke | alecuyer, on 3.8? yeah, https://review.opendev.org/#/c/688591/ landed | 21:16 |
patchbot | patch 688591 - swift - py38: Provide readinto() interface for RingReader (MERGED) - 1 patch set | 21:16 |
timburke | but https://review.opendev.org/#/c/688594/ is still outstanding | 21:16 |
patchbot | patch 688594 - swift - py38: cgi lost some names - 1 patch set | 21:16 |
timburke | i'm kinda tempted to wait a little and see what six does with https://github.com/benjaminp/six/pull/290 / https://github.com/benjaminp/six/issues/159 | 21:16 |
timburke | on the py2 front, of course, we already talked about wanting to continue support for a while, in part to continue supporting anyone with xenial's distro python packages | 21:18 |
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timburke | i'll continue to push for keeping py2 testing viable, but it's something to be aware of as the ussuri cycle unfolds | 21:20 |
timburke | those are all the general announcements i had | 21:20 |
timburke | does anyone have any questions or comments on them? | 21:20 |
tdasilva | timburke: thanks for keeping us updated | 21:21 |
timburke | 👍 | 21:22 |
timburke | i know i got a lot of value out of having notmyname curate and highlight the bits of the mailing list that were actually relevant when i got burned out on trying to keep up a couple years back :-) | 21:23 |
timburke | on to updates! | 21:23 |
timburke | #topic versioning | 21:24 |
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timburke | tdasilva, how are you feeling about https://review.opendev.org/#/c/682382/ ? | 21:24 |
patchbot | patch 682382 - swift - WIP: New Object Versioning mode - 13 patch sets | 21:24 |
tdasilva | making progress... | 21:25 |
tdasilva | I need to start adding a whole ton of tests around listings | 21:25 |
tdasilva | and of course rebase the patch on top of the null-character patch | 21:25 |
timburke | nice! i'm working on getting https://review.opendev.org/#/c/673682/ rebased on the new swift versioning -- got like 5 of the 8 tests clayg wrote in test/functional/s3api/test_versioning.py passing at the moment | 21:27 |
patchbot | patch 673682 - swift - s3api: Implement versioning status API - 3 patch sets | 21:27 |
tdasilva | timburke: cool, please feel free to push any new patchsets to p 682382 | 21:28 |
patchbot | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/682382/ - swift - WIP: New Object Versioning mode - 13 patch sets | 21:28 |
timburke | will do. i was thinking about adding an is_latest key when doing ?versions listings... | 21:28 |
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timburke | tdasilva, anything else people should be aware of, thinking about, or looking at? | 21:29 |
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tdasilva | no, but i'm sure there will be churn during code review, so the sooner that starts the better :) | 21:30 |
timburke | #topic lots of small files | 21:31 |
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tdasilva | and of course I've been putting off documentation so far, maybe I should start working on that on a separate patch | 21:31 |
timburke | alecuyer, thanks for fixing up the requirements so https://review.opendev.org/#/c/686846/ could land! | 21:31 |
patchbot | patch 686846 - swift (feature/losf) - EC frags are the ones with the # (MERGED) - 2 patch sets | 21:31 |
alecuyer | np, thanks for your help with it and others | 21:31 |
alecuyer | I have pushed this small one here https://review.opendev.org/#/c/659254/ | 21:31 |
patchbot | patch 659254 - swift (feature/losf) - In _get_vfile(), handle the case when a referenced... - 2 patch sets | 21:31 |
alecuyer | and I need to work on properly detecting and exposing the case where the leveldb database is corrupted | 21:32 |
alecuyer | (as I mentionned, we currently check this from logs, outside of swift itself) | 21:32 |
alecuyer | and then we should see if that would have to be monitored by the operator or self-heal | 21:33 |
timburke | right... fwiw, needing to fix up swift-drive-audit made me realize we already have some stand-alone tools for parsing kernel logs and such... | 21:34 |
timburke | self-heal would be nice, but i think operator-driven would probably be a good initial release | 21:35 |
alecuyer | If you think there's a good example there to look at , let me know :) | 21:35 |
alecuyer | ok | 21:35 |
timburke | idk -- the fact that we didn't notice that it wasn't py3-ready tells me we don't really use it much, at least in our dev workflows... so might not be the best example ;-) | 21:36 |
alecuyer | right well I'll do something and we can discuss it | 21:37 |
timburke | 👍 | 21:37 |
timburke | all right... with mattoliverau not here, i'm thinking we could probably skip talking about sharding... | 21:38 |
timburke | unless someone wants to pick up looking at https://review.opendev.org/#/c/675014/ | 21:38 |
patchbot | patch 675014 - swift - Latch shard-stat reporting - 4 patch sets | 21:38 |
timburke | there's at least one significant issue i need to address, but i think the core of the thing is in pretty good shape | 21:39 |
timburke | #topic open discussion | 21:40 |
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timburke | anything else anyone would like to bring up? | 21:40 |
timburke | kota_, how was the typhoon? did you and your family have to evacuate? | 21:43 |
kota_ | it was safe on my home including itself. | 21:44 |
timburke | good to hear | 21:44 |
kota_ | some part of tokyo affected but here not. | 21:44 |
kota_ | thx | 21:44 |
timburke | all right, i suppose we ought to let you go get breakfast :-) | 21:45 |
timburke | thank you all for coming, and thank you for working on swift! | 21:45 |
timburke | #endmeeting | 21:45 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 16 21:45:35 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:45 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2019/swift.2019-10-16-21.00.html | 21:45 |
alecuyer | thanks tim, good day/night all | 21:45 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2019/swift.2019-10-16-21.00.txt | 21:45 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2019/swift.2019-10-16-21.00.log.html | 21:45 |
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