| *** e0ne has joined #openstack-meeting | 00:05 | |
| *** brault has quit IRC | 00:16 | |
| *** jamesmcarthur has quit IRC | 00:16 | |
| *** e0ne has quit IRC | 00:18 | |
| *** brault has joined #openstack-meeting | 00:18 | |
| *** jamesmcarthur has joined #openstack-meeting | 00:21 | |
| *** armax has quit IRC | 00:26 | |
| *** ociuhandu has joined #openstack-meeting | 00:31 | |
| *** e0ne has joined #openstack-meeting | 00:31 | |
| *** ociuhandu has quit IRC | 00:35 | |
| *** njohnston has quit IRC | 00:35 | |
| *** njohnston has joined #openstack-meeting | 00:36 | |
| *** e0ne has quit IRC | 00:40 | |
| *** e0ne has joined #openstack-meeting | 00:43 | |
| *** e0ne has quit IRC | 00:47 | |
| *** e0ne has joined #openstack-meeting | 00:54 | |
| *** e0ne has quit IRC | 00:58 | |
| *** jamesmcarthur has quit IRC | 00:58 | |
| *** jamesmcarthur has joined #openstack-meeting | 01:03 | |
| *** e0ne has joined #openstack-meeting | 01:05 | |
| *** bnemec has joined #openstack-meeting | 01:12 | |
| *** e0ne has quit IRC | 01:12 | |
| *** e0ne has joined #openstack-meeting | 01:18 | |
| *** e0ne has quit IRC | 01:22 | |
| *** bnemec has quit IRC | 01:25 | |
| *** e0ne has joined #openstack-meeting | 01:28 | |
| *** brinzhang_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 01:30 | |
| *** lseki has quit IRC | 01:30 | |
| *** brinzhang has quit IRC | 01:33 | |
| *** jamesmcarthur has quit IRC | 01:34 | |
| *** e0ne has quit IRC | 01:36 | |
| *** jamesmcarthur has joined #openstack-meeting | 01:41 | |
| *** e0ne has joined #openstack-meeting | 01:42 | |
| *** bnemec has joined #openstack-meeting | 01:42 | |
| *** brinzhang has joined #openstack-meeting | 01:46 | |
| *** e0ne has quit IRC | 01:46 | |
| *** brinzhang_ has quit IRC | 01:49 | |
| *** brinzhang_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 01:51 | |
| *** e0ne has joined #openstack-meeting | 01:51 | |
| *** mhen has quit IRC | 01:54 | |
| *** brinzhang has quit IRC | 01:54 | |
| *** Garyx has quit IRC | 01:55 | |
| *** Garyx has joined #openstack-meeting | 01:56 | |
| *** e0ne has quit IRC | 02:00 | |
| *** jamesmcarthur has quit IRC | 02:02 | |
| *** Garyx has quit IRC | 02:05 | |
| *** jamesmcarthur has joined #openstack-meeting | 02:05 | |
| *** e0ne has joined #openstack-meeting | 02:06 | |
| *** Garyx has joined #openstack-meeting | 02:07 | |
| *** apetrich has quit IRC | 02:09 | |
| *** dtrainor has quit IRC | 02:12 | |
| *** e0ne has quit IRC | 02:14 | |
| *** dtrainor has joined #openstack-meeting | 02:15 | |
| *** e0ne has joined #openstack-meeting | 02:17 | |
| *** ianychoi has quit IRC | 02:19 | |
| *** ianychoi has joined #openstack-meeting | 02:21 | |
| *** e0ne has quit IRC | 02:22 | |
| *** e0ne has joined #openstack-meeting | 02:23 | |
| *** e0ne has quit IRC | 02:27 | |
| *** brinzhang has joined #openstack-meeting | 02:28 | |
| *** e0ne has joined #openstack-meeting | 02:30 | |
| *** brinzhang_ has quit IRC | 02:31 | |
| *** markvoelker has joined #openstack-meeting | 02:32 | |
| *** brinzhang has quit IRC | 02:37 | |
| *** brinzhang has joined #openstack-meeting | 02:38 | |
| *** ricolin has joined #openstack-meeting | 02:40 | |
| *** e0ne has quit IRC | 02:41 | |
| *** e0ne has joined #openstack-meeting | 02:44 | |
| *** e0ne has quit IRC | 02:49 | |
| *** markvoelker has quit IRC | 02:52 | |
| *** radeks has joined #openstack-meeting | 02:52 | |
| *** e0ne has joined #openstack-meeting | 02:55 | |
| *** radeks has quit IRC | 02:58 | |
| *** e0ne has quit IRC | 03:00 | |
| *** rbudden has quit IRC | 03:25 | |
| *** jamesmcarthur has quit IRC | 03:26 | |
| *** dviroel_ has quit IRC | 03:31 | |
| *** slaweq has joined #openstack-meeting | 03:31 | |
| *** hongbin has joined #openstack-meeting | 03:35 | |
| *** slaweq has quit IRC | 03:35 | |
| *** radeks has joined #openstack-meeting | 03:36 | |
| *** psachin has joined #openstack-meeting | 03:37 | |
| *** brinzhang_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 03:53 | |
| *** brinzhang has quit IRC | 03:56 | |
| *** tashiromt has joined #openstack-meeting | 04:01 | |
| *** brault has quit IRC | 04:19 | |
| *** hongbin has quit IRC | 04:22 | |
| *** nitinuikey has joined #openstack-meeting | 04:29 | |
| *** larainema has joined #openstack-meeting | 04:30 | |
| *** brinzhang has joined #openstack-meeting | 04:31 | |
| *** brinzhang_ has quit IRC | 04:34 | |
| *** radeks has quit IRC | 04:48 | |
| *** diablo_rojo has quit IRC | 04:48 | |
| *** brinzhang_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 04:50 | |
| *** brinzhang has quit IRC | 04:53 | |
| *** radeks has joined #openstack-meeting | 04:57 | |
| *** brinzhang has joined #openstack-meeting | 04:59 | |
| *** keiko-k has joined #openstack-meeting | 05:00 | |
| *** brinzhang_ has quit IRC | 05:03 | |
| *** Luzi has joined #openstack-meeting | 05:16 | |
| *** hyunsikyang__ has joined #openstack-meeting | 05:17 | |
| *** hyunsikyang has quit IRC | 05:20 | |
| *** hyunsikyang has joined #openstack-meeting | 05:21 | |
| *** hyunsikyang__ has quit IRC | 05:22 | |
| *** brinzhang_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 05:28 | |
| *** e0ne has joined #openstack-meeting | 05:30 | |
| *** brinzhang has quit IRC | 05:31 | |
| *** markvoelker has joined #openstack-meeting | 05:47 | |
| *** takamatsu has quit IRC | 05:54 | |
| *** e0ne has quit IRC | 05:58 | |
| *** links has joined #openstack-meeting | 06:04 | |
| *** brinzhang has joined #openstack-meeting | 06:07 | |
| *** slaweq has joined #openstack-meeting | 06:09 | |
| *** igordc has quit IRC | 06:10 | |
| *** brinzhang_ has quit IRC | 06:10 | |
| *** nitinuikey has quit IRC | 06:17 | |
| *** brinzhang_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 06:17 | |
| *** brinzhang has quit IRC | 06:20 | |
| *** pcaruana has joined #openstack-meeting | 06:30 | |
| *** vesper11- has quit IRC | 06:33 | |
| *** vesper11 has joined #openstack-meeting | 06:36 | |
| *** brinzhang has joined #openstack-meeting | 06:40 | |
| *** brinzhang has quit IRC | 06:40 | |
| *** brinzhang_ has quit IRC | 06:44 | |
| *** trident has quit IRC | 06:52 | |
| *** trident has joined #openstack-meeting | 06:56 | |
| *** Luzi_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 07:04 | |
| *** Luzi has quit IRC | 07:08 | |
| *** jawad_axd has joined #openstack-meeting | 07:12 | |
| *** tesseract has joined #openstack-meeting | 07:12 | |
| *** rcernin has quit IRC | 07:16 | |
| *** e0ne has joined #openstack-meeting | 07:25 | |
| *** apetrich has joined #openstack-meeting | 07:26 | |
| *** ttsiouts has joined #openstack-meeting | 07:26 | |
| *** ralonsoh has joined #openstack-meeting | 07:28 | |
| *** ociuhandu has joined #openstack-meeting | 07:30 | |
| *** ociuhandu has quit IRC | 07:35 | |
| *** ociuhandu has joined #openstack-meeting | 07:35 | |
| *** kopecmartin|off is now known as kopecmartin | 07:38 | |
| *** ociuhandu has quit IRC | 07:42 | |
| *** priteau has joined #openstack-meeting | 07:53 | |
| *** e0ne has quit IRC | 07:55 | |
| *** tashiromt has quit IRC | 08:00 | |
| *** nitinuikey has joined #openstack-meeting | 08:04 | |
| *** tpatil has joined #openstack-meeting | 08:04 | |
| *** rpittau|afk is now known as rpittau | 08:07 | |
| *** ttsiouts has quit IRC | 08:12 | |
| *** ttsiouts has joined #openstack-meeting | 08:12 | |
| *** ociuhandu has joined #openstack-meeting | 08:13 | |
| *** ttsiouts has quit IRC | 08:17 | |
| *** e0ne has joined #openstack-meeting | 08:17 | |
| *** ttsiouts has joined #openstack-meeting | 08:17 | |
| *** radeks has quit IRC | 08:19 | |
| *** ociuhandu has quit IRC | 08:20 | |
| *** takahashi-tsc has joined #openstack-meeting | 08:22 | |
| *** nitinuikey has quit IRC | 08:25 | |
| *** ociuhandu has joined #openstack-meeting | 08:25 | |
| *** e0ne_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 08:25 | |
| *** takamatsu has joined #openstack-meeting | 08:26 | |
| *** e0ne has quit IRC | 08:26 | |
| *** takamatsu has quit IRC | 08:29 | |
| *** jamesmcarthur has joined #openstack-meeting | 08:30 | |
| *** ociuhandu has quit IRC | 08:31 | |
| *** ociuhandu has joined #openstack-meeting | 08:31 | |
| *** jamesmcarthur has quit IRC | 08:34 | |
| *** ociuhandu has quit IRC | 08:35 | |
| *** ociuhandu has joined #openstack-meeting | 08:35 | |
| *** takamatsu has joined #openstack-meeting | 08:36 | |
| *** ttsiouts has quit IRC | 08:37 | |
| *** ttsiouts has joined #openstack-meeting | 08:37 | |
| *** tpatil has quit IRC | 08:40 | |
| *** takamatsu has quit IRC | 08:41 | |
| *** ttsiouts has quit IRC | 08:42 | |
| *** ociuhandu has quit IRC | 08:42 | |
| *** tssurya has joined #openstack-meeting | 08:45 | |
| *** takamatsu has joined #openstack-meeting | 08:48 | |
| *** ttsiouts has joined #openstack-meeting | 08:49 | |
| *** bnemec has quit IRC | 08:53 | |
| *** e0ne_ has quit IRC | 09:09 | |
| *** brinzhang has joined #openstack-meeting | 09:23 | |
| *** ttsiouts has quit IRC | 09:24 | |
| *** ttsiouts has joined #openstack-meeting | 09:24 | |
| *** ttsiouts has quit IRC | 09:29 | |
| *** ociuhandu has joined #openstack-meeting | 09:47 | |
| *** ociuhandu has quit IRC | 09:53 | |
| *** brinzhang_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 10:04 | |
| *** brinzhang has quit IRC | 10:08 | |
| *** Luzi has joined #openstack-meeting | 10:08 | |
| *** Luzi_ has quit IRC | 10:10 | |
| *** ttsiouts has joined #openstack-meeting | 10:11 | |
| *** njohnston_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 10:17 | |
| *** e0ne has joined #openstack-meeting | 10:20 | |
| *** ttsiouts has quit IRC | 10:27 | |
| *** ttsiouts has joined #openstack-meeting | 10:28 | |
| *** ociuhandu has joined #openstack-meeting | 10:31 | |
| *** brinzhang has joined #openstack-meeting | 10:33 | |
| *** ttsiouts has quit IRC | 10:33 | |
| *** markvoelker has quit IRC | 10:33 | |
| *** brinzhang_ has quit IRC | 10:36 | |
| *** ociuhandu has quit IRC | 10:36 | |
| *** njohnston_ has quit IRC | 10:38 | |
| *** bbowen has quit IRC | 10:47 | |
| *** hyunsikyang__ has joined #openstack-meeting | 10:53 | |
| *** hyunsikyang has quit IRC | 10:56 | |
| *** takamatsu has quit IRC | 10:56 | |
| *** njohnston_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 10:57 | |
| *** keiko-k has quit IRC | 11:00 | |
| *** hyunsikyang has joined #openstack-meeting | 11:01 | |
| *** njohnston_ has quit IRC | 11:02 | |
| *** hyunsikyang__ has quit IRC | 11:06 | |
| *** brinzhang_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 11:07 | |
| *** brinzhang has quit IRC | 11:09 | |
| *** takahashi-tsc has quit IRC | 11:14 | |
| *** ttsiouts has joined #openstack-meeting | 11:18 | |
| *** markvoelker has joined #openstack-meeting | 11:19 | |
| *** takamatsu has joined #openstack-meeting | 11:34 | |
| *** brinzhang has joined #openstack-meeting | 11:38 | |
| *** ttsiouts has quit IRC | 11:38 | |
| *** ttsiouts has joined #openstack-meeting | 11:39 | |
| *** markvoelker has quit IRC | 11:39 | |
| *** brinzhang_ has quit IRC | 11:41 | |
| *** ttsiouts has quit IRC | 11:43 | |
| *** ttsiouts has joined #openstack-meeting | 11:44 | |
| *** takamatsu has quit IRC | 11:51 | |
| *** raildo has joined #openstack-meeting | 12:02 | |
| *** bbowen has joined #openstack-meeting | 12:04 | |
| *** brinzhang_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 12:04 | |
| *** brinzhang has quit IRC | 12:07 | |
| *** brinzhang_ has quit IRC | 12:14 | |
| *** takamatsu has joined #openstack-meeting | 12:14 | |
| *** brinzhang_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 12:14 | |
| *** takamatsu has quit IRC | 12:16 | |
| *** larainema has quit IRC | 12:18 | |
| *** takamatsu has joined #openstack-meeting | 12:21 | |
| *** belmoreira has joined #openstack-meeting | 12:24 | |
| *** takamatsu has quit IRC | 12:29 | |
| *** yaawang has quit IRC | 12:29 | |
| *** yaawang_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 12:29 | |
| *** takamatsu has joined #openstack-meeting | 12:32 | |
| *** markvoelker has joined #openstack-meeting | 12:38 | |
| *** nanzha has joined #openstack-meeting | 12:41 | |
| *** brinzhang has joined #openstack-meeting | 12:49 | |
| *** brinzhang_ has quit IRC | 12:53 | |
| *** markvoelker has quit IRC | 12:57 | |
| *** lseki has joined #openstack-meeting | 12:59 | |
| *** panda|off is now known as panda | 13:01 | |
| *** mriedem has joined #openstack-meeting | 13:01 | |
| *** takamatsu has quit IRC | 13:06 | |
| *** takamatsu has joined #openstack-meeting | 13:10 | |
| *** nanzha has quit IRC | 13:15 | |
| *** nanzha has joined #openstack-meeting | 13:16 | |
| *** liuyulong has joined #openstack-meeting | 13:16 | |
| *** brinzhang_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 13:16 | |
| *** enriquetaso has joined #openstack-meeting | 13:19 | |
| *** brinzhang has quit IRC | 13:19 | |
| *** Luzi has quit IRC | 13:19 | |
| *** lpetrut has joined #openstack-meeting | 13:21 | |
| *** brinzhang has joined #openstack-meeting | 13:31 | |
| *** pcaruana has quit IRC | 13:32 | |
| *** brinzhang_ has quit IRC | 13:34 | |
| *** takamatsu has quit IRC | 13:36 | |
| *** bnemec has joined #openstack-meeting | 13:43 | |
| *** jawad_axd has quit IRC | 13:52 | |
| *** jawad_axd has joined #openstack-meeting | 13:53 | |
| *** jamesmcarthur has joined #openstack-meeting | 13:55 | |
| *** jawad_ax_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 13:57 | |
| *** ociuhandu has joined #openstack-meeting | 13:58 | |
| *** jawad_axd has quit IRC | 13:58 | |
| haleyb | hi | 14:01 |
|---|---|---|
| *** brinzhang_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:01 | |
| *** jawad_ax_ has quit IRC | 14:01 | |
| haleyb | #startmeeting networking-ovn | 14:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 15 14:03:03 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is haleyb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking-ovn)" | 14:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_ovn' | 14:03 |
| * haleyb will wait for quorum | 14:03 | |
| *** pcaruana has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:04 | |
| *** brinzhang has quit IRC | 14:04 | |
| njohnston | o/ | 14:06 |
| njohnston | sorry I am late | 14:06 |
| haleyb | njohnston: hi | 14:06 |
| njohnston | still not used to this meeting slot :-) | 14:06 |
| haleyb | you're the second person here, so not late | 14:06 |
| liuyulong | not the team meeting this week? | 14:07 |
| njohnston | no, that was yesterday | 14:07 |
| njohnston | 17 hours ago I guess | 14:08 |
| haleyb | tidwellr: ping | 14:08 |
| liuyulong | OK, for me, it is today, : ) | 14:08 |
| njohnston | liuyulong: ah! :-) | 14:09 |
| *** jamesmcarthur has quit IRC | 14:09 | |
| haleyb | njohnston: this is not shaping up to be a very exciting meeting with just the two of us | 14:11 |
| njohnston | haleyb: https://media.giphy.com/media/KFiQXtO3rWxlzpjnrV/giphy.gif | 14:12 |
| haleyb | hah | 14:13 |
| haleyb | #topic Announcements | 14:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: networking-ovn)" | 14:13 | |
| haleyb | 1st announcement this will be a really short meeting | 14:13 |
| haleyb | #topic ML2-OVS-DVR/OVN convergence | 14:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "ML2-OVS-DVR/OVN convergence (Meeting topic: networking-ovn)" | 14:14 | |
| haleyb | There has been some progress on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ML2-OVS-OVN-Convergence | 14:14 |
| * haleyb realized these notes are just for posterity | 14:14 | |
| haleyb | part of the outcome of going through the work items is a thought on keeping the networking-ovn code in it's own repo | 14:15 |
| haleyb | i am looking into that and will talk to others offline for their thoughts | 14:16 |
| liuyulong | I can imagine a bad thing is that if networking-ovn is moving forward too fast to let user overcome the gap, the community and the user group will totally walk on their own separated way. | 14:17 |
| haleyb | liuyulong: yes, one of the short-term goal would have to be to close the gap on a few items | 14:17 |
| njohnston | agreed | 14:18 |
| liuyulong | No more feedbacks from the real user group, because users are still have large sets of cloud to operate. | 14:18 |
| *** dklyle has quit IRC | 14:18 | |
| haleyb | liuyulong: no, the only people involved so far are the distros and neutron team | 14:19 |
| slaweq | hi, sorry for being late | 14:19 |
| slaweq | I again forgot about this meeting | 14:19 |
| liuyulong | no matter linux bridge or ovs-agent OF flows, the ovn logical and flows or data-plane are totally different. | 14:20 |
| liuyulong | migration looks not so much easily | 14:20 |
| haleyb | slaweq: i will have to buy the beer in Shanghai as a meeting reminder | 14:20 |
| slaweq | haleyb++ beer always works for me :) | 14:20 |
| haleyb | liuyulong: thanks for reminding me of migration, that deserves a section in the convergence etherpad. There is a rough outline of it, and it's possible, but depends on the deployment tools | 14:22 |
| tidwellr | haleyb: pong | 14:22 |
| *** markvoelker has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:23 | |
| liuyulong | I don't know if someday the neutron agents would be all abandoned. Maybe after that day, every company will have their own cloud services... | 14:24 |
| haleyb | tidwellr: hey, OVN meeting, i can follow-up with you offline if you're going to be able to continue working on this | 14:24 |
| *** electrofelix has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:25 | |
| liuyulong | But, IMO, everything should be evolving。 | 14:25 |
| haleyb | liuyulong: i can envision a day when the agents are deprecated... | 14:25 |
| liuyulong | OVN is a better choice, for new cloud deployment I may embrace it. : ) | 14:27 |
| *** jamesmcarthur has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:27 | |
| haleyb | liuyulong: what is the biggest issue you see moving to OVN? would your customers be worried? | 14:27 |
| *** brinzhang has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:28 | |
| liuyulong | haleyb, actually, all most everything. The scale, the availibility, developability and maintainability... | 14:29 |
| tidwellr | haleyb: we can follow up offline | 14:29 |
| haleyb | tidwellr: ack | 14:29 |
| tidwellr | haleyb: I live in interesting times ;) | 14:30 |
| *** brinzhang has quit IRC | 14:30 | |
| liuyulong | tool-chain, monitor, CI/CD... | 14:30 |
| haleyb | liuyulong: are there items in the "gap" your customers are using? just trying to get a different perspective than a distro | 14:31 |
| *** brinzhang has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:31 | |
| *** brinzhang_ has quit IRC | 14:31 | |
| *** brinzhang has quit IRC | 14:32 | |
| *** brinzhang has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:32 | |
| liuyulong | haleyb, no, we try to deploy a OVN based environment once, but sadly it is not in-production finally. | 14:33 |
| *** brinzhang has quit IRC | 14:33 | |
| *** ociuhandu has quit IRC | 14:33 | |
| *** brinzhang has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:34 | |
| liuyulong | haleyb, we just tested it few weeks, and almost everything we developed in neutron-agents will be needed to re-implemented one more time... | 14:34 |
| *** brinzhang has quit IRC | 14:35 | |
| *** brinzhang has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:35 | |
| *** brinzhang has quit IRC | 14:35 | |
| liuyulong | haleyb, no times to achieve that while we are facing neutron its own bugs... : ) | 14:35 |
| haleyb | liuyulong: so you have your own fork of the agents? are there things we need to add to the "gaps"? or is it just the bugs :( | 14:36 |
| liuyulong | What's the status IPv6 implementation in OVN? | 14:36 |
| *** brinzhang has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:36 | |
| *** brinzhang has quit IRC | 14:37 | |
| haleyb | liuyulong: one item missing is IPv6 PD, but it is being worked on currently | 14:37 |
| *** brinzhang has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:38 | |
| *** brinzhang has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:38 | |
| liuyulong | resource monitor, IP metering, Ports probe, QoS, pps limitation and some product functions. | 14:40 |
| *** goldenfri has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:40 | |
| liuyulong | And I don't think it will be accepted by our team, : ) | 14:41 |
| liuyulong | shared bandwidth, peer-to-peer connection, l2gw, VPN, firewall... | 14:42 |
| *** dklyle has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:43 | |
| liuyulong | So, if someday the networking-ovn move-in and become the default, maybe we can create a new repo for neutron agents, yes, a move-out. : ) | 14:44 |
| haleyb | liuyulong: that's a long list. so you don't see yourself migrating to OVN in the next few years | 14:44 |
| liuyulong | haleyb, for new small cloud, we can give a try if we find some best practice someday. Maybe there are tons of config options need to optimize, I guess. | 14:46 |
| haleyb | liuyulong: ack, and i can add these items to the etherpad | 14:48 |
| liuyulong | haleyb, I may say every cloud may have their own SLA assurance, migration can inevitablely cause data-plane down, so it has risk. | 14:48 |
| haleyb | liuyulong: right, there are cases where you maybe can't do an in-place update | 14:49 |
| *** eharney has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:49 | |
| *** enriquetaso has quit IRC | 14:51 | |
| *** armax has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:51 | |
| liuyulong | One more thing, baremetal, IMO some ovsdb/openflow apps can be easily developed in python... | 14:54 |
| *** enriquetaso has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:54 | |
| haleyb | ok, thanks for the information | 14:56 |
| liuyulong | np | 14:56 |
| haleyb | any other comments from anyone? have :3 left | 14:57 |
| haleyb | ok, thanks for the discussion | 14:59 |
| *** links has quit IRC | 14:59 | |
| haleyb | #endmeeting | 14:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 14:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 15 14:59:28 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ovn/2019/networking_ovn.2019-10-15-14.03.html | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ovn/2019/networking_ovn.2019-10-15-14.03.txt | 14:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ovn/2019/networking_ovn.2019-10-15-14.03.log.html | 14:59 |
| liuyulong | bye | 14:59 |
| *** ociuhandu has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:07 | |
| *** ociuhandu has quit IRC | 15:10 | |
| *** ociuhandu has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:11 | |
| *** gyee has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:13 | |
| *** mriedem has quit IRC | 15:18 | |
| *** mriedem has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:18 | |
| *** ttsiouts has quit IRC | 15:21 | |
| *** ttsiouts has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:22 | |
| *** ttsiouts has quit IRC | 15:27 | |
| *** markvoelker has quit IRC | 15:28 | |
| *** jawad_axd has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:28 | |
| *** diablo_rojo has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:29 | |
| *** jawad_axd has quit IRC | 15:33 | |
| *** igordc has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:37 | |
| *** brinzhang_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:37 | |
| *** mattw4 has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:38 | |
| *** brinzhang has quit IRC | 15:41 | |
| *** jawad_axd has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:49 | |
| *** liuyulong has quit IRC | 15:51 | |
| *** belmoreira has quit IRC | 15:53 | |
| *** jawad_axd has quit IRC | 15:53 | |
| slaweq | #startmeeting neutron_ci | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 15 16:00:29 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is slaweq. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| slaweq | hi | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:00 | |
| ralonsoh | hi | 16:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_ci' | 16:00 |
| * slaweq is on last meeting today \o/ | 16:00 | |
| njohnston | o/ | 16:00 |
| slaweq | ok, I think we can start as bcafarel will not be available today | 16:02 |
| slaweq | Grafana dashboard: http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate | 16:02 |
| slaweq | please open it now | 16:02 |
| slaweq | #topic Actions from previous meetings | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Actions from previous meetings (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:02 | |
| slaweq | njohnston Update the neutron-tempest-plugin dashboard in grafana | 16:02 |
| njohnston | so the change has been submitted | 16:03 |
| njohnston | #link https://review.opendev.org/687686 | 16:03 |
| *** rpittau is now known as rpittau|afk | 16:03 | |
| njohnston | waiting for another +2 | 16:04 |
| ralonsoh | (you have my +1) | 16:04 |
| slaweq | thx njohnston | 16:04 |
| njohnston | It is dependent on this change by slaweq https://review.opendev.org/#/c/685214/ | 16:04 |
| slaweq | ahh, yes I wanted to ask today for review of it | 16:05 |
| ralonsoh | ^ this one, IMO, is ready to be merged | 16:05 |
| slaweq | njohnston: can You? | 16:05 |
| slaweq | :) | 16:05 |
| njohnston | slaweq: your wish is my command. +W | 16:05 |
| slaweq | LOL | 16:05 |
| slaweq | thx | 16:05 |
| slaweq | ok, so lets move on than | 16:05 |
| slaweq | ralonsoh to check root cause of ssh issue in https://storage.gra1.cloud.ovh.net/v1/AUTH_dcaab5e32b234d56b626f72581e3644c/zuul_opendev_logs_9c2/664646/6/check/tempest-ipv6-only/9c2f68f/testr_results.html.gz | 16:05 |
| ralonsoh | slaweq, sorry but I didn't find the error | 16:06 |
| ralonsoh | I still don't know why the IP is not given correctly to the VM | 16:06 |
| ralonsoh | and I don't see any DHCP message | 16:06 |
| ralonsoh | is like this VM has no connectivity to the DHCP | 16:07 |
| slaweq | but it's single node job, rigth? | 16:07 |
| ralonsoh | yes | 16:07 |
| slaweq | so both ports (vm and dhcp) should be plugged into br-int | 16:07 |
| ralonsoh | yes | 16:07 |
| ralonsoh | I can give another try | 16:08 |
| slaweq | there can be only to reasons IMO - either port wasn't wired properly either firewall rules were not configured in it properly | 16:08 |
| slaweq | nono ralonsoh | 16:08 |
| ralonsoh | but I spent one whole morning on this | 16:08 |
| slaweq | if there is nothing in logs that You can't do anything :) | 16:08 |
| slaweq | don't waste Your time on it | 16:08 |
| clarkb | well usually that is an indication we need to improve our logging | 16:09 |
| slaweq | clarkb: yes, I just think about the same | 16:10 |
| *** jawad_axd has joined #openstack-meeting | 16:10 | |
| clarkb | but ya update logging to cover likely cases then move on and wait for it to hit again (can also update elastic-recheck to track it for you) | 16:10 |
| ralonsoh | clarkb, and that's usually the next action | 16:10 |
| *** hemna_afk is now known as hemna_ | 16:11 | |
| slaweq | ralonsoh: but do You think we can add some additional debug logs to our code to know something more about it? | 16:11 |
| *** kopecmartin is now known as kopecmartin|off | 16:11 | |
| ralonsoh | slaweq, I'll check it and if possible, I'll submit a patch | 16:11 |
| slaweq | tbh we should be able to see if ports were configured by ovs agent | 16:11 |
| slaweq | and in fact IMO it was configured otherwise neutron would not report to nova that port is UP | 16:12 |
| slaweq | and nova would not unpause vm, right? | 16:12 |
| ralonsoh | slaweq, yes and we see it in the ovs logs | 16:12 |
| slaweq | so IMO more likely this was some issue with openflow rules in br-int | 16:13 |
| ralonsoh | slaweq, this is something we maybe should log better in debug/testing mode | 16:13 |
| slaweq | ralonsoh: is there any way to maybe log all OF rules from bridges (br-int) every e.g. 1 second? | 16:14 |
| ralonsoh | slaweq, uffff be careful | 16:14 |
| slaweq | something similar to e.g. dstat: https://storage.gra1.cloud.ovh.net/v1/AUTH_dcaab5e32b234d56b626f72581e3644c/zuul_opendev_logs_9c2/664646/6/check/tempest-ipv6-only/9c2f68f/controller/logs/screen-dstat.txt.gz | 16:14 |
| slaweq | ralonsoh: LOL, I know but that would help us a lot | 16:14 |
| ralonsoh | this could be too much for the logs | 16:14 |
| *** jawad_axd has quit IRC | 16:14 | |
| ralonsoh | but yes, we can al least track the changes | 16:14 |
| slaweq | ralonsoh: right, timestamp and what flow rule was added/removed | 16:15 |
| ralonsoh | exactly but I need to check if ovs-ofctl allows this kind of monitoring | 16:15 |
| slaweq | do You think that would this be possible? | 16:15 |
| *** raildo_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 16:15 | |
| ralonsoh | I need to check it first | 16:15 |
| ralonsoh | like ovs-vsctl monitor | 16:15 |
| slaweq | ralonsoh: exactly | 16:15 |
| slaweq | will You do this? | 16:16 |
| ralonsoh | (sure | 16:16 |
| slaweq | thx a lot | 16:16 |
| *** e0ne has quit IRC | 16:16 | |
| *** raildo has quit IRC | 16:16 | |
| slaweq | #action ralonsoh to check if there is any possibility to do somethig like ovsdb-monitor for openflows | 16:16 |
| slaweq | thx ralonsoh for taking care of it | 16:17 |
| slaweq | lets move on | 16:17 |
| slaweq | next was | 16:17 |
| slaweq | slaweq to prepare etherpad to track dropping py27 jobs from ci | 16:17 |
| slaweq | Etherpad is there https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron_drop_python_2_status but it's not ready yet | 16:17 |
| slaweq | I will prepare list of jobs to remove in each repo | 16:17 |
| slaweq | I know we already started it for some repos like networking-ovn and neutron | 16:18 |
| slaweq | this should be much faster than switch to python 3 :) | 16:18 |
| njohnston | just one note on this | 16:19 |
| slaweq | njohnston: sure | 16:19 |
| njohnston | there are some projects out there that are being more aggressive in deprecating python 2 | 16:19 |
| njohnston | for example, by starting the process of removing six | 16:19 |
| njohnston | that level of effort should be discussed and planned out especially for projects that get imported by other projects like neutron/neutron-lib | 16:20 |
| njohnston | so while it may seem tempting I just wanted to note for posterity's sake that such moves should be held off, at this time | 16:20 |
| slaweq | njohnston: personally I don't think we should do it now | 16:20 |
| slaweq | 1. because of backports to stable branches which still support py2 | 16:20 |
| njohnston | the particular project I saw with the six removal was a widely used oslo project, and so everything I said obviously goes double for oslo | 16:21 |
| slaweq | is there any "common goal" to remove such pieces of code during ussuri also? | 16:21 |
| bnemec | There's discussion underway: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/drop-python2-support | 16:22 |
| bnemec | Oh, you already saw that. | 16:22 |
| slaweq | or dropping py2 support means just that we will not test it in u/s ci? | 16:22 |
| bnemec | No wait, the etherpad above is neutron-specific. So that tc one is still relevant here. | 16:22 |
| slaweq | bnemec: yes, thx for link | 16:22 |
| slaweq | I will read it later | 16:23 |
| njohnston | thanks bnemec, that link was my next thing to say :-) | 16:23 |
| njohnston | so to sum up: the stadium is complicated, deprecating py2 is complicated, so let's do our usual neutron thing and overcommunicate about it all :-) | 16:24 |
| bnemec | lol | 16:24 |
| slaweq | njohnston: what do You mean by "overcommunicate"? :) | 16:25 |
| slaweq | hmm, I think we lost njohnston now | 16:28 |
| slaweq | maybe we can continue with other topics than | 16:28 |
| slaweq | #topic Stadium projects | 16:28 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stadium projects (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:28 | |
| njohnston | I am here. Sorry, I thought you were saying that tongue-in-cheek | 16:29 |
| slaweq | ahh, no | 16:29 |
| slaweq | sorry I really wanted to know what You mean exactly | 16:29 |
| njohnston | I just meant that we'll talk about it in all our meetings and coordinate about it verbosely | 16:30 |
| slaweq | isn't preparing some etherpad and syncing weekly about it enough? | 16:30 |
| slaweq | ahh, ok | 16:30 |
| slaweq | thx, so that's something which I want to do with this :) | 16:30 |
| *** jawad_axd has joined #openstack-meeting | 16:30 | |
| *** igordc has quit IRC | 16:31 | |
| * njohnston is done | 16:31 | |
| slaweq | regarding stadium projects, I think we can remove python3 migration from this agenda as we did for neutron meeting | 16:31 |
| njohnston | agreed | 16:31 |
| slaweq | so we still have tempest-plugins migration | 16:31 |
| slaweq | and there is no any news about it | 16:32 |
| slaweq | anything else You want to discuss regarding stadium projects' ci? | 16:32 |
| slaweq | ahh, I have one more small thing | 16:33 |
| slaweq | please review https://review.opendev.org/#/c/685213/ - it's needed for Train and for stadium projects | 16:33 |
| slaweq | if there is nothing else related to stadium, lets move on to the next topic | 16:34 |
| slaweq | #topic Grafana | 16:34 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Grafana (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:34 | |
| slaweq | #link http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate | 16:34 |
| *** jawad_axd has quit IRC | 16:34 | |
| slaweq | it's a bit strange that we have so few data for gate queue | 16:35 |
| slaweq | did we merge only few patches last week in neutron really? | 16:35 |
| ralonsoh | not many merged last week | 16:36 |
| ralonsoh | merges | 16:36 |
| slaweq | hmm, it could be like that really | 16:36 |
| slaweq | in check queue still our bigger problem IMO is functional and fullstack job | 16:37 |
| *** nanzha has quit IRC | 16:38 | |
| njohnston | yep | 16:38 |
| slaweq | I have couple of examples of new failures there | 16:38 |
| slaweq | from good things I think that our (voting) scenario jobs works quite good recently | 16:39 |
| njohnston | agreed | 16:39 |
| *** tssurya has quit IRC | 16:40 | |
| slaweq | ok, so lets talk about those functional/fullstack failures | 16:40 |
| slaweq | #topic fullstack/functional | 16:40 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "fullstack/functional (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:40 | |
| slaweq | first fullstack | 16:40 |
| *** ociuhandu_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 16:40 | |
| slaweq | ralonsoh: I saw 2 new failures of our old friend: neutron.tests.fullstack.test_dhcp_agent.TestDhcpAgentHA.test_reschedule_network_on_new_agent | 16:41 |
| slaweq | https://2f600b8d6843c7d64afe-bbbb707b755a08f42bfac9929d4d55b4.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.com/688439/3/check/neutron-fullstack/119e702/testr_results.html.gz | 16:41 |
| slaweq | and | 16:41 |
| slaweq | https://e5965e413edbbc117465-bfd96e490b07511790a1eb1aa4beb29d.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.com/665467/37/check/neutron-fullstack/4437eb3/testr_results.html.gz | 16:41 |
| slaweq | IIRC You added some extra logs some time ago to debug this when it will happen again, right? | 16:41 |
| ralonsoh | slaweq, yes. I'll add this to my pile for tomorrow | 16:42 |
| slaweq | ralonsoh: thx, I can help with this if You want | 16:42 |
| slaweq | #action ralonsoh to investigate failed fullstack tests for dhcp agent rescheduling | 16:43 |
| slaweq | ok, next one | 16:43 |
| slaweq | neutron.tests.fullstack.test_qos.TestDscpMarkingQoSOvs | 16:43 |
| slaweq | https://openstack.fortnebula.com:13808/v1/AUTH_e8fd161dc34c421a979a9e6421f823e9/zuul_opendev_logs_7c2/684457/1/check/neutron-fullstack/7c2c5d8/testr_results.html.gz | 16:43 |
| slaweq | It seems like there was only one icmp packet sent and test failed: https://openstack.fortnebula.com:13808/v1/AUTH_e8fd161dc34c421a979a9e6421f823e9/zuul_opendev_logs_7c2/684457/1/check/neutron-fullstack/7c2c5d8/controller/logs/dsvm-fullstack-logs/TestDscpMarkingQoSOvs.test_dscp_marking_packets.txt.gz | 16:44 |
| slaweq | so as it is "my" test I will debug this | 16:44 |
| slaweq | ok for You? | 16:44 |
| *** ociuhandu has quit IRC | 16:44 | |
| ralonsoh | ok | 16:44 |
| njohnston | +1 | 16:44 |
| slaweq | :) | 16:44 |
| slaweq | #action slaweq to investigate failed neutron.tests.fullstack.test_qos.TestDscpMarkingQoSOvs | 16:44 |
| slaweq | now functional tests | 16:45 |
| slaweq | neutron.tests.functional.agent.l2.extensions.test_ovs_agent_qos_extension.TestOVSAgentQosExtension.test_port_creation_with_dscp_marking(egress) | 16:45 |
| slaweq | https://storage.bhs1.cloud.ovh.net/v1/AUTH_dcaab5e32b234d56b626f72581e3644c/zuul_opendev_logs_692/688439/3/check/neutron-functional/69288a9/testr_results.html.gz | 16:45 |
| slaweq | this one is interesting IMO | 16:45 |
| slaweq | in test logs: https://storage.bhs1.cloud.ovh.net/v1/AUTH_dcaab5e32b234d56b626f72581e3644c/zuul_opendev_logs_692/688439/3/check/neutron-functional/69288a9/controller/logs/dsvm-functional-logs/neutron.tests.functional.agent.l2.extensions.test_ovs_agent_qos_extension.TestOVSAgentQosExtension.test_port_creation_with_dscp_marking_egress_.txt.gz | 16:45 |
| slaweq | there is a lot of "EVENT OVSNeutronAgentOSKenApp->ofctl_service GetDatapathRequest send_event" log lines | 16:45 |
| slaweq | at first glance it looks for me like something was looping there infinitely | 16:45 |
| njohnston | that's quite unusual | 16:46 |
| slaweq | njohnston: yep | 16:46 |
| slaweq | anyone wants to investigate that? | 16:47 |
| ralonsoh | sorry not now | 16:47 |
| slaweq | if not, I can assign it to myself | 16:47 |
| ralonsoh | I have enough backlog | 16:47 |
| slaweq | ralonsoh: sure, I know You are overloaded :) | 16:47 |
| *** ociuhandu_ has quit IRC | 16:47 | |
| slaweq | ok, I will try to check that | 16:47 |
| slaweq | #action slaweq to check strange "EVENT OVSNeutronAgentOSKenApp->ofctl_service GetDatapathRequest send_event" log lines in neutron.tests.functional.agent.l2.extensions.test_ovs_agent_qos_extension.TestOVSAgentQosExtension.test_port_creation_with_dscp_marking | 16:48 |
| slaweq | ok, next one | 16:48 |
| slaweq | this one might be interesting for njohnston :) | 16:48 |
| slaweq | failed db migration tests again | 16:48 |
| slaweq | https://storage.bhs1.cloud.ovh.net/v1/AUTH_dcaab5e32b234d56b626f72581e3644c/zuul_opendev_logs_692/688439/3/check/neutron-functional/69288a9/controller/logs/dsvm-functional-logs/neutron.tests.functional.agent.l2.extensions.test_ovs_agent_qos_extension.TestOVSAgentQosExtension.test_port_creation_with_dscp_marking_egress_.txt.gz | 16:49 |
| *** takamatsu has joined #openstack-meeting | 16:49 | |
| slaweq | but this time it's not due to timeout and slow node | 16:49 |
| slaweq | sorry, wrong link | 16:49 |
| slaweq | argh, I don't have correct link for this one now | 16:50 |
| slaweq | sorry | 16:50 |
| njohnston | slaweq: np | 16:50 |
| slaweq | if I will find it somewhere, I will ping You | 16:50 |
| njohnston | slaweq: sure thing | 16:50 |
| njohnston | slaweq: also as a lead on the ofctl error from the last bug, check out https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1382372 | 16:50 |
| openstack | bugzilla.redhat.com bug 1382372 in openstack-neutron "Selinux is blocking ovs-vswitchd during functional tests" [Urgent,Closed: currentrelease] - Assigned to twilson | 16:50 |
| njohnston | it's been seen before, as an selinux issue | 16:51 |
| slaweq | njohnston: but u/s ci is running on ubuntu and I don't think there is selinux enabled there | 16:51 |
| njohnston | darn bugzilla, bamboozled again | 16:52 |
| slaweq | lol | 16:53 |
| slaweq | ok, lets move on to the last one: | 16:53 |
| slaweq | neutron.tests.functional.agent.test_firewall.FirewallTestCase | 16:54 |
| slaweq | https://08b11cea7395c153ac8e-9514c1b1570a8e9931b2a7d3207ef22f.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.com/684457/1/check/neutron-functional/06e9d0c/testr_results.html.gz | 16:54 |
| *** dviroel_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 16:54 | |
| ralonsoh | the flows were not applied?? maybe | 16:55 |
| ralonsoh | (we need a flow monitor) | 16:55 |
| slaweq | ralonsoh: yes | 16:55 |
| *** diablo_rojo has quit IRC | 16:55 | |
| slaweq | otherwise it may be hard to say what happend there | 16:55 |
| *** diablo_rojo has joined #openstack-meeting | 16:56 | |
| slaweq | but in this case it's not "br-int" only to monitor | 16:56 |
| ralonsoh | I know | 16:56 |
| slaweq | each test has got own bridge | 16:56 |
| ralonsoh | every test case should be able to deploy it's own monitor | 16:56 |
| *** ociuhandu has joined #openstack-meeting | 16:56 | |
| ralonsoh | in any bridge | 16:56 |
| ralonsoh | I'll put extra effort on this | 16:56 |
| slaweq | maybe we can do some simple decorator to run tests and in case of failure dump bridges from bridge used in the test somehow? | 16:57 |
| ralonsoh | this could be useful too | 16:57 |
| njohnston | that would be very useful | 16:57 |
| slaweq | *dump flows | 16:57 |
| slaweq | anyone wants to do it maybe? | 16:57 |
| slaweq | if not, I can | 16:57 |
| slaweq | :) | 16:57 |
| ralonsoh | I can check it | 16:57 |
| slaweq | at least add it to my backlog | 16:57 |
| slaweq | ok, thx ralonsoh | 16:58 |
| ralonsoh | along with the flow monitor | 16:58 |
| slaweq | #action ralonsoh to try to log flows at the end of faliled functional test | 16:58 |
| slaweq | ralonsoh: ^^ it's just as a reminder, it's not urgent for sure :) | 16:58 |
| njohnston | I'll also see if I can clear enough time to take a look | 16:58 |
| slaweq | thx njohnston | 16:58 |
| ralonsoh | thanks! | 16:59 |
| slaweq | ok, I think we have to finish now | 16:59 |
| slaweq | one last thing | 16:59 |
| slaweq | please add https://review.opendev.org/#/c/685705/ to Your review pile | 16:59 |
| slaweq | thx for attending | 16:59 |
| slaweq | and have a great day/evening :) | 16:59 |
| slaweq | bye | 16:59 |
| ralonsoh | bye! | 16:59 |
| slaweq | #endmeeting | 16:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 16:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 15 16:59:57 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2019/neutron_ci.2019-10-15-16.00.html | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2019/neutron_ci.2019-10-15-16.00.txt | 17:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2019/neutron_ci.2019-10-15-16.00.log.html | 17:00 |
| njohnston | you too slaweq o/ | 17:00 |
| *** njohnston is now known as njohnston|lunch | 17:00 | |
| *** ociuhandu has quit IRC | 17:01 | |
| *** lpetrut has quit IRC | 17:01 | |
| *** e0ne has joined #openstack-meeting | 17:02 | |
| *** priteau has quit IRC | 17:03 | |
| *** brinzhang has joined #openstack-meeting | 17:05 | |
| *** e0ne has quit IRC | 17:08 | |
| *** armax has quit IRC | 17:08 | |
| *** brinzhang_ has quit IRC | 17:08 | |
| *** takamatsu has quit IRC | 17:12 | |
| *** ricolin has quit IRC | 17:20 | |
| *** dviroel_ is now known as dviroel | 17:24 | |
| *** ralonsoh has quit IRC | 17:25 | |
| *** ociuhandu has joined #openstack-meeting | 17:31 | |
| *** electrofelix has quit IRC | 17:32 | |
| *** ociuhandu has quit IRC | 17:35 | |
| *** psachin has quit IRC | 17:38 | |
| *** e0ne has joined #openstack-meeting | 17:42 | |
| *** eharney has quit IRC | 17:43 | |
| *** armax has joined #openstack-meeting | 17:44 | |
| *** e0ne has quit IRC | 17:47 | |
| *** ociuhandu has joined #openstack-meeting | 17:48 | |
| *** jawad_axd has joined #openstack-meeting | 17:50 | |
| *** ociuhandu has quit IRC | 17:56 | |
| *** brinzhang_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 18:03 | |
| *** diablo_rojo has quit IRC | 18:06 | |
| *** diablo_rojo has joined #openstack-meeting | 18:06 | |
| *** brinzhang has quit IRC | 18:07 | |
| *** markvoelker has joined #openstack-meeting | 18:07 | |
| *** priteau has joined #openstack-meeting | 18:11 | |
| *** jamesmcarthur has quit IRC | 18:12 | |
| *** markvoelker has quit IRC | 18:12 | |
| *** markvoelker has joined #openstack-meeting | 18:21 | |
| *** ociuhandu has joined #openstack-meeting | 18:26 | |
| *** markvoelker has quit IRC | 18:31 | |
| *** eharney has joined #openstack-meeting | 18:32 | |
| *** igordc has joined #openstack-meeting | 18:36 | |
| *** rubasov has quit IRC | 18:41 | |
| *** ociuhandu has quit IRC | 18:55 | |
| *** e0ne has joined #openstack-meeting | 18:59 | |
| clarkb | the infra meeting will begin shortly | 18:59 |
| *** Shrews has joined #openstack-meeting | 19:00 | |
| ianw | o/ | 19:00 |
| *** jamesmcarthur has joined #openstack-meeting | 19:00 | |
| fungi | howdy | 19:01 |
| corvus | o/ | 19:01 |
| clarkb | #startmeeting infra | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 15 19:01:16 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is clarkb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'infra' | 19:01 |
| clarkb | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2019-October/006493.html Our Agenda | 19:01 |
| clarkb | #topic Announcements | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:01 | |
| *** markvoelker has joined #openstack-meeting | 19:01 | |
| clarkb | The OpenStack release is happening this week (~tomorrow) | 19:01 |
| clarkb | I believe the only potential need for infra help is requeuing any of the openstack release teams' tagging jobs | 19:02 |
| clarkb | if they happen to timeout (there was a change to increase the timeout on them to avoid that in the first place) | 19:02 |
| clarkb | but I guess keep an eye out for any issues they run into that we can help with | 19:02 |
| corvus | tagging job > 30 min? | 19:02 |
| clarkb | corvus: ya it serially ran through every project created a tag for it and pushed it to gerrit | 19:03 |
| clarkb | and apparently when you do that over several hundred projects you take longer than 30 minutes (this happened with stein) | 19:03 |
| corvus | i see | 19:03 |
| clarkb | the job won't retag and repush things so it can be requeued and it basically skips ahead to where it left off safely | 19:03 |
| fungi | i don't know that it happened with stein | 19:04 |
| clarkb | oh it happend at some point | 19:04 |
| fungi | it happened at stein and train rc1 | 19:04 |
| clarkb | ah | 19:04 |
| fungi | because those also involve branch creation on every project | 19:04 |
| fungi | and pushing new changes to each of them | 19:04 |
| mordred | branch creation is slightly more expensive I guess? | 19:04 |
| fungi | with all the associated change proposals it is | 19:05 |
| mordred | ah - yeah - that makes sense | 19:05 |
| fungi | we're just being extra cautious. i plan to be at the computer by 11:30z and the button mashing commences at 12:00z i believe | 19:05 |
| clarkb | I fully endorse everything being done by the time I wake up :) | 19:06 |
| fungi | i expect it will be mostly done, including the follow-on jobs triggered by the tag pushes, by 13:00z | 19:06 |
| *** markvoelker has quit IRC | 19:06 | |
| clarkb | other things to consider: we probably want to avoid zuul restarts tomorrow (at least until fungi gives us the all clear) | 19:06 |
| *** jakecoll has joined #openstack-meeting | 19:06 | |
| fungi | unless something goes sideways, and even then that leaves us hours until the osf has the usual press release planned and the associated press embargoes lift | 19:06 |
| fungi | which i think is usually around 15:00z or thereabouts | 19:07 |
| * diablo_rojo sneaks in late | 19:07 | |
| clarkb | but ya I don't anticipate problems. We've fixed or are fixing a bunch of our known infra issues recently and of those I don't think they would really affect the openstack release | 19:08 |
| fungi | in release-related announcements, i also created the ussuri signing key a few weeks ago: | 19:08 |
| fungi | #link https://sks-keyservers.net/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0xbba3b1e67a7303dd1769d34595bf2e4d09004514&fingerprint=on OpenStack Infra (Ussuri Cycle) artifact signing key | 19:08 |
| clarkb | (things like NM on red hat distros and the debian buster mirror) | 19:08 |
| fungi | #link https://docs.openstack.org/infra/system-config/signing.html#attestation infra signing key attestation procedure | 19:09 |
| fungi | i'll push up changes to switch the train key out for that in a week or so | 19:09 |
| clarkb | Anything else to announce? | 19:10 |
| * fungi knows of nothing else | 19:10 | |
| clarkb | #topic Actions from last meeting | 19:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Actions from last meeting (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:10 | |
| clarkb | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2019/infra.2019-10-08-19.01.txt minutes from last meeting | 19:11 |
| clarkb | I started drafting up a thing for opendev governance | 19:11 |
| clarkb | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/rCF58JvzbF OpenDev governance email draft | 19:11 |
| clarkb | I think it is still a bit rough and I've tried to bring up a few of the things I expect peopel to question/bring up | 19:11 |
| clarkb | in particular how an OpenDev PTL is chosen, whether we need tie breaker rules on the proposed council and whether we want the "else" group to be covered there too | 19:12 |
| clarkb | I think all of that is open for discussion at this point so please feel free to leave comments on the etherpad | 19:12 |
| *** tbarron_ is now known as tbarron | 19:13 | |
| corvus | clarkb: thanks! after collecting etherpad comments, what do you think is next? | 19:13 |
| clarkb | corvus: I think draft a final version that we can all be happy with as a group, then take that to the TC as a "look this is what we'd like to do and we'd like your input and go ahead to do this formally" | 19:14 |
| corvus | kk | 19:14 |
| clarkb | I don't expect that to present any problems but would be good to make it all official like | 19:14 |
| clarkb | we should probably also ask the other groups that will be part of the council for input | 19:16 |
| clarkb | since we will be asking them to participate | 19:16 |
| clarkb | fungi: ^ that may help answer the question re kata | 19:16 |
| clarkb | "does this even interest you?" | 19:17 |
| fungi | makes sense | 19:17 |
| clarkb | Probably best to dive into this on the etherpad once we've collected more thoughts and opinions | 19:18 |
| clarkb | we can come back to this at the ned of the meeting if we have time too | 19:18 |
| clarkb | #topic Priority Efforts | 19:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Priority Efforts (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:18 | |
| clarkb | #topic OpenDev | 19:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenDev (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:18 | |
| clarkb | Any other opendev topics to bring up? | 19:18 |
| clarkb | Sounds like no | 19:19 |
| fungi | what's our current opendev focus? | 19:19 |
| clarkb | for me it has become the governance topic | 19:19 |
| fungi | okay, cool. just making sure i know where we are in the transition | 19:19 |
| clarkb | Based on complaints I think our git hosting is fairly stable at this point other than the performance issue on large repos | 19:20 |
| fungi | and i guess the gerrit upgrade | 19:20 |
| clarkb | which is a known upstream issue with people working on it | 19:20 |
| fungi | and the zuul log storage switch | 19:20 |
| corvus | mordred's is gerrit upgrade | 19:20 |
| fungi | right, i meant more collectively | 19:20 |
| corvus | and ianw is driving static retirement | 19:21 |
| fungi | like what do we want to complete before we start moving more services into opendev | 19:21 |
| fungi | those all sound like good things to get behind us first | 19:21 |
| corvus | more services like? | 19:21 |
| corvus | like adding services, or renaming? | 19:21 |
| fungi | etherpad et cetera | 19:21 |
| fungi | well, it's never been clear to me if something is officially opendev while it's still on an openstack.org domain | 19:21 |
| corvus | i wouldn't put up any blockers to moving anything over at this point | 19:22 |
| ianw | (on static; yes very distracted with glean + centos8 this week, but will get back to updating that spec as discussed last week) | 19:22 |
| mordred | yah- other than available human time | 19:22 |
| clarkb | ya I think we can start shifting services like etherpad as soon as people have time to do them | 19:22 |
| mordred | clarkb: ++ | 19:22 |
| fungi | got it. i know we were pushing back on that when the focus was still on stabilizing the gerrit/gitea migration | 19:22 |
| corvus | i know i said "let's not move etherpad" in the past, because i think we needed all hands on deck for gerrit migration, but i don't feel like any current effort is like that | 19:22 |
| clarkb | it might make moving services slightly easier if we prioritize the dns proposal implementation | 19:22 |
| corvus | clarkb: ++ | 19:22 |
| fungi | awesome. thanks! | 19:22 |
| fungi | and yes, i agree the dns/ssl plan is a high priority for that | 19:23 |
| clarkb | speaking of the dns proposal I did bring it up with osf staff and heard no objections | 19:23 |
| clarkb | jbryce did say it would be this week or next before he could really read and digest it though | 19:23 |
| corvus | groovy | 19:23 |
| fungi | not that there was really anything to object to | 19:23 |
| fungi | and there's some possible interest in moving the openstack.org domain into our dns hosting, just not sure how much and on what timeline yet | 19:24 |
| fungi | but i think the etherpadded plan is a simple interim solution even so | 19:24 |
| corvus | yeah, it won't produce any roadblocks to future work like that | 19:24 |
| *** markvoelker has joined #openstack-meeting | 19:25 | |
| fungi | thanks, that covers my questions. we just hadn't done a "where are we now?" on this in a few months | 19:26 |
| clarkb | To summarize, mordred is working on improvements to gerrit config management using containers to help enable a big gerrit upgrade, ianw is working on static.openstack.org cleanup, clarkb is working on the governance side of things. Others should feel free to pick up other service "moves" which might be made easier if we focus on the dns proposal first | 19:26 |
| clarkb | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-org-dns is the dns proposal | 19:27 |
| clarkb | #topic Update Config Management | 19:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Update Config Management (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:27 | |
| clarkb | mordred: anything new on gerrit container images? | 19:28 |
| mordred | there's some patches up to update to bazel 1.0 | 19:28 |
| mordred | which are required to land the latest changes | 19:28 |
| mordred | that opened up a can of worms with puppet - which I think is finally unwound | 19:28 |
| mordred | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/688523/ and friends | 19:29 |
| *** trident has quit IRC | 19:29 | |
| clarkb | ya that prompted some cleanup of the centos-7 puppet jobs we were running | 19:30 |
| mordred | since I missed the last few meetings - the current status is that review-dev is running on the container image - so we know that bit works - the next bit is finishing the patch to actually be able to do that via config management | 19:30 |
| *** bbowen has quit IRC | 19:31 | |
| mordred | at some point it might be good to rethink our gerrit server-side hook scripts that use jeepyb to be zuul jobs - as they currently require us to add jeepyb into the gerrit image itself - but it's not urgent | 19:32 |
| corvus | ++ | 19:32 |
| mordred | also - we've got some patches up to add master-based images with checks plugin enabled that we can use for zuul testing - and eventually potentially be more ready for rollouts as we go forward | 19:32 |
| *** trident has joined #openstack-meeting | 19:33 | |
| clarkb | That sounds good. Anyone else have updates related to config management? | 19:34 |
| clarkb | Lets move on | 19:36 |
| clarkb | #topic Storyboard | 19:36 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Storyboard (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:36 | |
| clarkb | fungi: diablo_rojo anything new to report here? | 19:36 |
| fungi | we moved the storyboard "weekly" irc meeting to 14:00z thursdays | 19:36 |
| fungi | in hopes we have critical mass for it to be closer to weekly in frequency again | 19:37 |
| fungi | nothing new from me on the team management automation front yet. i've started fleshing out the module last week but haven't gotten to pushing anything into gerrit | 19:38 |
| fungi | focus has mostly been elsewhere | 19:38 |
| fungi | though in the sb meeting last week we got consensus on the direction i'm taking it | 19:38 |
| clarkb | and that direction is using the api to manage group membership in storyboard instead of the database | 19:40 |
| fungi | yep | 19:41 |
| fungi | via ansible | 19:41 |
| clarkb | great. Anything else? | 19:41 |
| fungi | nothing i'm aware of | 19:41 |
| clarkb | #topic General Topics | 19:42 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "General Topics (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:42 | |
| clarkb | fungi: I noticed there were some wiki changes today, I assume we should all go and review those? | 19:42 |
| fungi | i've imported fresh mysqldump and image tree copy from the production wiki onto wiki-dev, and then discovered mediawiki has a number of unpackaged dependencies which need installing via a php tool called "composer" | 19:42 |
| fungi | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/q/project:opendev/puppet-mediawiki+is:open+topic:xenial-upgrades | 19:42 |
| mordred | "neat" | 19:42 |
| fungi | yeah, i see one has a beaker failure, need to dig into it | 19:43 |
| fungi | also i've basically done that stuff manually on wiki-dev just to see what breaks next | 19:43 |
| fungi | it's now giving me no output instead of an error in the browser, so time to go hunting in logs | 19:44 |
| clarkb | progress at least | 19:44 |
| fungi | yep | 19:44 |
| mordred | fungi: your beaker failed is the thig I just fixed for gerrit | 19:44 |
| fungi | oh, neat | 19:44 |
| fungi | thanks mordred! | 19:44 |
| fungi | will look after the meeting | 19:45 |
| clarkb | ianw for static.o.o I think we can go ahead and update the spec with the dns proposal changes involved | 19:45 |
| mordred | so once https://review.opendev.org/#/c/688555/ lands (has +A) - we can recheck that patch and it shoiuld be fine | 19:45 |
| clarkb | ianw: other than waiting for new patchset to review on that is there anything we can do to help re static.o.o? | 19:45 |
| ianw | clarkb: yes, will do for sure | 19:46 |
| ianw | sorry, at this point i think it's stalled on us getting ducks in a row on spec | 19:46 |
| ianw | /s/on/in/ | 19:46 |
| fungi | just needs some duck sauce then | 19:46 |
| clarkb | no worries, just checking | 19:47 |
| clarkb | Next up I wanted to bring up CentOS 8. | 19:47 |
| clarkb | I think ianw managed to track down the network problems we've had on red hat distros (including 8) and those should now be fixed | 19:47 |
| clarkb | please keep an eye out for odd behavior on centos and fedora on limestone and fortnebula in particular but we should be good now | 19:47 |
| clarkb | zbr and ianw have updates to fix mirror management on centos 8 in zuul-jobs | 19:48 |
| ianw | yep, and last night the configure-mirror changes went in, so devstack can start | 19:48 |
| mordred | well done ianw! | 19:48 |
| clarkb | I want to say enough of that has now merged that we should be able to run jobs on centos 8 now and have their actual workloads run | 19:48 |
| ianw | ergo all the setup roles are working | 19:48 |
| fungi | yay! | 19:48 |
| clarkb | excellent thank you for confirming | 19:48 |
| mordred | that was quite the digging for that one | 19:48 |
| ianw | yep, i plan to announce the images to the list, along with some of the caveats about it being python3 only (by default) today | 19:48 |
| *** tesseract has quit IRC | 19:49 | |
| zbr | tomorrow I am going to start enabling new jobs | 19:49 |
| clarkb | ++ thank you for getting that done | 19:49 |
| clarkb | also apparently we've managed to build centos 8 cloud images before upstream so some individuals have come to us looking for them :) | 19:49 |
| fungi | hilarious | 19:50 |
| fungi | but also sad | 19:50 |
| ianw | yes, i need to sync with maybe karinbar there ... there are kickstarts, and their infra is building them but not publishing for some reason | 19:50 |
| zbr | ianw: not sure if advertising is really needed,... i prefer to slowly add jobs, so we have time to fix the broken bits. | 19:50 |
| clarkb | zbr: I think in the past we've not been aggressive enough in advertising updated distros which leads to peopel dragging their feet and we end up not updating as quickly as possible | 19:50 |
| ianw | zbr: i'd like people to go in with a heads up that they're different wrt to pip/virtualenv setup to all our other images | 19:50 |
| clarkb | I think we should let everyone know that they can (and should) update now that we are happy with it and that will help shake out any additional problems | 19:51 |
| clarkb | Last up on the agenda is the PTG | 19:52 |
| clarkb | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/OpenDev-Shanghai-PTG-2019 Add your PTG topic ideas here | 19:52 |
| clarkb | #link https://www.openstack.org/ptg/#tab_schedule PTG schedule | 19:52 |
| clarkb | I'm told I should hear back on my visa tomorrow. I am cautiously optomistic that there will be good news | 19:53 |
| clarkb | #topic Open Discussion | 19:54 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:54 | |
| mordred | clarkb: I hope to see you in Shanghai | 19:54 |
| clarkb | mordred: me too :) | 19:54 |
| clarkb | I'll open it up to further discussion on past topics or new items | 19:54 |
| mordred | fwiw - I'm now in Asia until the Summit (in Japan timezone) | 19:54 |
| *** e0ne has quit IRC | 19:55 | |
| fungi | the debian mirror seems to be updated now, though seeing different build failures around the debian-security mirror now | 19:55 |
| ianw | hangin' in the +9 | 19:55 |
| clarkb | mordred: is there a secret goal of visiting every timezone? | 19:55 |
| fungi | i may need to perform some similar reprepro surgery on it | 19:55 |
| mordred | clarkb: not very secret :) | 19:55 |
| mordred | my intent is to work hours that are non-normal here so I have more overlap with folks - but I'm jetlagged at the moment and have't 100% sorted out what that looks like yet | 19:56 |
| corvus | mordred: cool, thanks for keeping us updated | 19:57 |
| clarkb | Oh we are removing opensuse 42.3 images from nodepool | 19:57 |
| clarkb | thank you to ajaeger and corvus for pushing on that | 19:57 |
| clarkb | there is one devstack change we are waiting on before rechecking the nodeset removal to see if that will go in now | 19:58 |
| ianw | ++ | 19:58 |
| ianw | f28 should probably be next | 19:58 |
| clarkb | and opensuse 150 | 19:58 |
| clarkb | but ya agreed | 19:58 |
| corvus | i'm guessing we should hold off on the git repo cache move until friday? | 19:58 |
| corvus | or at least post-release? | 19:59 |
| clarkb | ++ | 19:59 |
| clarkb | that has the potential to have widespread impact probably best to play it safe | 19:59 |
| corvus | i'm basically waiting for clarkb and fungi to tell me it's okay to break the debian-whatever and old suse images... | 19:59 |
| corvus | the ones that haven't updated in ages | 19:59 |
| *** markvoelker has quit IRC | 20:00 | |
| clarkb | and we are at time | 20:00 |
| corvus | https://review.opendev.org/682935 | 20:00 |
| clarkb | thank you everyone. Feel free to continue discussion in #openstack-infra | 20:00 |
| clarkb | #endmeeting | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 20:00 | |
| *** brinzhang has joined #openstack-meeting | 20:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 15 20:00:26 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2019/infra.2019-10-15-19.01.html | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2019/infra.2019-10-15-19.01.txt | 20:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2019/infra.2019-10-15-19.01.log.html | 20:00 |
| fungi | thanks clarkb! | 20:00 |
| clarkb | corvus: I think we can break both of suse and buster old images as soon as release is done (even if fungi and I don't get those sorted before then) | 20:01 |
| fungi | yep | 20:01 |
| fungi | i concur | 20:01 |
| clarkb | corvus: cleanups/fixes are in progress so should be done soon after if not before | 20:01 |
| corvus | cool, thx. i wipd it for now | 20:01 |
| *** brinzhang_ has quit IRC | 20:03 | |
| *** b1airo has joined #openstack-meeting | 20:04 | |
| b1airo | Anyone about? | 20:04 |
| *** Shrews has left #openstack-meeting | 20:07 | |
| *** jamesmcarthur has quit IRC | 20:09 | |
| *** jamesmcarthur has joined #openstack-meeting | 20:19 | |
| *** jawad_axd has quit IRC | 20:21 | |
| *** pcaruana has quit IRC | 20:25 | |
| *** rbudden has joined #openstack-meeting | 20:32 | |
| *** pcaruana has joined #openstack-meeting | 20:34 | |
| *** macz has joined #openstack-meeting | 20:35 | |
| *** slaweq has quit IRC | 20:38 | |
| *** jamesmcarthur has quit IRC | 20:38 | |
| *** bbowen has joined #openstack-meeting | 20:45 | |
| *** ociuhandu has joined #openstack-meeting | 20:46 | |
| *** jamesmcarthur has joined #openstack-meeting | 20:48 | |
| *** pcaruana has quit IRC | 20:51 | |
| *** slaweq has joined #openstack-meeting | 20:54 | |
| *** oneswig has joined #openstack-meeting | 20:55 | |
| *** slaweq has quit IRC | 20:59 | |
| oneswig | #startmeeting scientific-sig | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 15 21:00:20 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is oneswig. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: scientific-sig)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'scientific_sig' | 21:00 |
| oneswig | ahoy | 21:00 |
| oneswig | b1airo: good morning | 21:00 |
| oneswig | #chair b1airo | 21:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: b1airo oneswig | 21:00 |
| rbudden | hello | 21:00 |
| *** brinzhang_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 21:00 | |
| oneswig | what's new? | 21:00 |
| oneswig | hey rbudden | 21:01 |
| b1airo | Hey hey, good to see you folks | 21:01 |
| oneswig | I updated my desktop to Mac OS Catalina. Now if I open Mail it hangs, saying it's doing a DB upgrade. So OpenStack! | 21:02 |
| b1airo | Thanks to daylight savings I now have a meeting clash here again, so I'll be a little disengaged sorry | 21:02 |
| b1airo | Burn oneswig ! | 21:02 |
| *** martial has joined #openstack-meeting | 21:03 | |
| rbudden | i hear ya, i’m on daycare pickup in a half hour ;) | 21:03 |
| oneswig | Ah, too bad b1airo rbudden | 21:03 |
| b1airo | (should have been an apostrophe in there maybe - don't really want oneswig burnt) | 21:03 |
| oneswig | I've got one in bed and the other brushing her teeth. But she's 12 so she's got the hang of it | 21:03 |
| *** brinzhang has quit IRC | 21:03 | |
| martial | evening Gents | 21:04 |
| oneswig | Hey martial | 21:04 |
| oneswig | #chair martial | 21:04 |
| openstack | Current chairs: b1airo martial oneswig | 21:04 |
| b1airo | Hi martial | 21:04 |
| martial | so Stig, you are going to Shanghai? | 21:04 |
| oneswig | Sure am. At least, I'm going to the Chinese embassy tomorrow to lend them my passport | 21:04 |
| oneswig | If they give it back in time, I'll be going to Shanghai.. | 21:05 |
| b1airo | o_0 | 21:05 |
| martial | enjoy your trip my friend; I know you will join us at SC19 | 21:05 |
| oneswig | Looking forward to it, but keep procrastinating on sorting the travel... | 21:06 |
| oneswig | (for SC) | 21:06 |
| oneswig | Do you have hotels booked? | 21:06 |
| martial | which reminds me, the "Container Advisory Panel" want to promote their "Containers and New Orchestration Paradigms for Isolated Environments in HPC (CANOPIE HPC)" | 21:07 |
| martial | #link https://sc19.supercomputing.org/session/?sess=sess136 | 21:07 |
| jakecoll | Hi everyone. Is there going to be a PTG for the Scientific SIG? | 21:07 |
| martial | I do have my hotel booked, and plane and registration done [today is the last day for early bird for SC19 btw] | 21:07 |
| oneswig | Hi jakecoll, welcome. There's a day for it in Shanghai - Thursday I believe | 21:08 |
| oneswig | You going? | 21:08 |
| martial | and there will be a PTG session as well, I believe | 21:08 |
| *** trandles has joined #openstack-meeting | 21:08 | |
| jakecoll | Yes, I'll be in Shanghai | 21:08 |
| martial | so PSA: if you are coming to SC19 and have not registered yet: <blink>today is the last day for early bird</blink> :) | 21:09 |
| jakecoll | Is there anything on the docket for the PTG as of yet? | 21:09 |
| oneswig | martial: thanks for the heads up! | 21:09 |
| martial | stig: hotels are scarce by now | 21:09 |
| oneswig | jakecoll: Nothing as yet. Usually it's really handy to meet with the Ironic team but this time the session overlaps. | 21:09 |
| oneswig | Perhaps it's time to make an etherpad, if it hasn't been auto-generated this time around | 21:11 |
| oneswig | (should check on that) | 21:11 |
| jakecoll | I'll keep a look out then | 21:11 |
| oneswig | jakecoll: are there items you'd like to see covered? | 21:12 |
| jakecoll | Well, my PI was mostly wondering if the Scientific SIG had lightning talks on the docket or something of the like this year | 21:13 |
| jakecoll | We were wondering if anyone was interested in discussion of traces | 21:14 |
| martial | we have two sessions this year as well? | 21:14 |
| martial | where is the next one btw? | 21:14 |
| oneswig | Not announced yet I believe, but I think they are dropping to 1 summit per year | 21:16 |
| martial | interesting | 21:17 |
| oneswig | I don't believe we have the SIG session with lightning talks in the schedule this year, but we have a whole day at the PTG to fill, which more than replaces it. | 21:18 |
| martial | this is good yet a little sad; this is the primary way we bring in new people to the conversation | 21:18 |
| martial | few come to the PTG | 21:18 |
| oneswig | jakecoll: are you thinking of control plane profiling traces, or application traces? | 21:18 |
| oneswig | martial: think you're right. | 21:18 |
| rbudden | oh wow, dropping to a single summit, that’s a bummer | 21:19 |
| oneswig | don't remember where I heard that, mind... | 21:19 |
| jakecoll | I honestly don't know the difference between the two. I work on Chameleon Cloud. It would be our cloud traces. | 21:20 |
| martial | PTG vs Summit? | 21:21 |
| martial | PTG is an event after the Summit and you need another ticket to get to it | 21:21 |
| martial | Summit is the main event with presentations and such | 21:22 |
| oneswig | jakecoll: Is that data about representative cloud usage? I think I remember hearing about that. | 21:22 |
| martial | Often people go to the Summit, but few stay for the PTG | 21:22 |
| jakecoll | yes | 21:22 |
| martial | [I feel like I misunderstood the question :) ] | 21:22 |
| *** diablo_rojo has quit IRC | 21:24 | |
| oneswig | martial: dumb question, for the BoF participation, do I need to register for the SC Technical program? | 21:24 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | martial: it's all one registration | 21:25 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | You don't need separate tickets this time. | 21:25 |
| martial | oh coo, thanks Kendall [how are you?] | 21:25 |
| martial | stig: I think so | 21:25 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | No problem :) Good! | 21:25 |
| trandles | oneswig: I missed the BoF last year because I was only on an exhibitor pass :( | 21:26 |
| trandles | Hi all btw, mostly lurking today | 21:26 |
| martial | stig: let me check the "logo" on it | 21:26 |
| b1airo | Thanks for the heads up on early bird for SC, martial | 21:26 |
| oneswig | hi trandles, excellent lurking so far | 21:26 |
| oneswig | b1airo: I think he's saved us both many dollars... | 21:27 |
| martial | #link https://sc19.supercomputing.org/session/?sess=sess332 | 21:27 |
| martial | if you are an IEEE or ACM SIG HPC member you also get a discount (deal alert) | 21:27 |
| martial | so the SC19 says "EX" and "EXH" | 21:27 |
| b1airo | I too have been procrastinating on organising the travel | 21:27 |
| b1airo | Yeah HPC SIG pays for itself | 21:28 |
| trandles | jakecoll: I'm interested in Chameleon cloud traces if you're thinking of publishing. We have another project (not directly cloud-related) that's gathering trace data for cloud and HPC workloads | 21:28 |
| verdurin | Is it worth registering for the tutorials at SC? Oh, and hello. | 21:29 |
| martial | I think the EX and EXH mean that you do not need a "TP" (Technical Program) badge to attend but | 21:29 |
| martial | verdurin: if you want to see the HPC Container crowd, they have their own Wosrkshop on Monday called CANOPIE | 21:29 |
| oneswig | Hi verdurin... | 21:29 |
| oneswig | workshops are different from TP or so I have just read | 21:29 |
| martial | and on Sunday, there is a side event (not part of SC19) from The Next Platform | 21:30 |
| trandles | we have a poster and paper accepted for CANOPIE so will be there | 21:30 |
| martial | #link https://www.nextplatform.com/hpc-day-with-the-next-platform/ | 21:30 |
| b1airo | Yeah, I'll most likely be at CANOPIE, was thinking about a submission, but time.. | 21:30 |
| martial | (extra cost for The Next Platform event ($40) but pretty cool) | 21:30 |
| martial | trandles: cool! | 21:30 |
| trandles | I think it conflicts with the supercluster workshop though, so meh :( | 21:31 |
| martial | b1airo: if you reach out to CJ or Shane Canon or even our now AWS friend Christian, they might help you | 21:32 |
| martial | trandles: enjoy still | 21:33 |
| b1airo | Oh, Docker-Christian had jumped ship? | 21:33 |
| b1airo | *has | 21:34 |
| trandles | Docker & Christian came to an "amicable split" | 21:34 |
| martial | b1airo: have been on the calls (I have a task to do I see on that post it :( ) and they are open to allow extra CFP | 21:34 |
| martial | b1airo: yes Sir, he is at AWS, and confirmed he was going to be at SC19 | 21:35 |
| trandles | I saw Christian at a CompBioMed meeting in Amsterdam in March...he was winding down then and looking for something else | 21:35 |
| b1airo | Thanks martial , I wouldn't have time to do anything suitably thorough I think | 21:36 |
| b1airo | Is this indicative that Docker Inc is not pursuing further HPC support currently..? | 21:36 |
| martial | *cough*it is*cough* | 21:37 |
| trandles | b1airo: +1 I believe that to be true... | 21:37 |
| martial | (at least not in the CE world) | 21:37 |
| trandles | If you believe the news, Docker is looking to simply survive at this point | 21:37 |
| b1airo | Yeah, I've read the analyses suggesting they are struggling to convert market share into $$ | 21:38 |
| martial | the other day I was doing an apt-get update and my distro was complaining that the docker release file was now saying it was EE only | 21:38 |
| martial | got me a little annoyed obviously | 21:39 |
| oneswig | I believe it's no longer distributed with CentOS 8 either. | 21:39 |
| martial | yesterday did the same update and it reverted to CE | 21:39 |
| *** ociuhandu has quit IRC | 21:40 | |
| oneswig | There was a tentative agenda item but it does seem to have been nipped in the bud in Slack | 21:41 |
| oneswig | I had mistakenly thought b1airo had had his hands on the AMD GPU that supports SR-IOV, but alas it appears not | 21:41 |
| *** raildo_ has quit IRC | 21:42 | |
| martial | or maybe he is not telling :) | 21:42 |
| oneswig | Can anyone else share experiences...? | 21:43 |
| b1airo | I'm struggling to recall, but I thought it looked like AMD were going to a MR-IOV implementation | 21:43 |
| *** jamesmcarthur has quit IRC | 21:45 | |
| b1airo | Though looks like they only talk about sriov now | 21:45 |
| oneswig | Multi-root PCI - is that for active failover? | 21:46 |
| oneswig | SC Registration complete... | 21:50 |
| oneswig | OK - any other business? | 21:50 |
| martial | nothing from this end | 21:51 |
| trandles | SC will be here before we know it...looking forward to seeing everyone | 21:52 |
| martial | +1 | 21:52 |
| oneswig | martial: is DataMachines a member of the Ceph Foundation? I know you guys do a lot with Ceph | 21:52 |
| b1airo | Wondering if anyone has touched any of the swathe of data management products that are popping up in vendor catalogues ... | 21:53 |
| oneswig | b1airo: such as? | 21:54 |
| b1airo | DellEMC has a thing, HPE does too, IBM, then there's others like starfish, irods.. | 21:55 |
| b1airo | HPE's is DMF (v7) | 21:55 |
| b1airo | IBM has Spectrum Discover | 21:56 |
| oneswig | Not me. It's a big open question. | 21:56 |
| *** armax has quit IRC | 21:57 | |
| oneswig | Close to time now, any final comments? | 21:58 |
| b1airo | DellEMC has InsightIQ, which is more an admin tool, but I've heard they are combining it with something else to make it more of a full featured data management thing | 21:58 |
| oneswig | jakecoll: be good to hear more about Chameleon traces - in Shanghai | 21:58 |
| b1airo | That's it from me | 21:58 |
| oneswig | OK thanks y'all | 21:59 |
| oneswig | #endmeeting | 21:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 21:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 15 21:59:41 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2019/scientific_sig.2019-10-15-21.00.html | 21:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2019/scientific_sig.2019-10-15-21.00.txt | 21:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2019/scientific_sig.2019-10-15-21.00.log.html | 21:59 |
| *** jakecoll has quit IRC | 21:59 | |
| *** markvoelker has joined #openstack-meeting | 22:00 | |
| *** enriquetaso has quit IRC | 22:01 | |
| *** trandles has quit IRC | 22:01 | |
| *** bcm has joined #openstack-meeting | 22:01 | |
| *** oneswig has quit IRC | 22:03 | |
| *** markvoelker has quit IRC | 22:04 | |
| *** jamesmcarthur has joined #openstack-meeting | 22:13 | |
| *** njohnston|lunch is now known as njohnston | 22:24 | |
| *** rcernin has joined #openstack-meeting | 22:30 | |
| *** jamesmcarthur has quit IRC | 22:31 | |
| *** bnemec has quit IRC | 22:38 | |
| *** mattw4 has quit IRC | 22:45 | |
| *** rbudden has quit IRC | 22:45 | |
| *** armax has joined #openstack-meeting | 23:02 | |
| *** verdurin has quit IRC | 23:11 | |
| *** bswartz has joined #openstack-meeting | 23:16 | |
| *** verdurin has joined #openstack-meeting | 23:19 | |
| *** enriquetaso has joined #openstack-meeting | 23:20 | |
| *** macz has quit IRC | 23:22 | |
| *** mriedem has quit IRC | 23:27 | |
| *** jamesmcarthur has joined #openstack-meeting | 23:35 | |
| *** eharney has quit IRC | 23:41 | |
| *** markvoelker has joined #openstack-meeting | 23:45 | |
| *** brinzhang_ has quit IRC | 23:47 | |
| *** brinzhang has joined #openstack-meeting | 23:48 | |
| *** brinzhang_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 23:51 | |
| *** brinzhang has quit IRC | 23:54 | |
| *** markvoelker has quit IRC | 23:55 | |
| *** jamesmcarthur has quit IRC | 23:59 | |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.15.3 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!
