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| zhangchi | #startmeeting tricircle | 01:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 17 01:00:48 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is zhangchi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 01:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 01:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tricircle' | 01:00 |
| zhangchi | Morning all. | 01:01 |
| zhangchi | Welcome back to tricircle meeting | 01:01 |
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| zhangchi | Hello XSM_HUST. Glad to see you on line | 01:04 |
| XSM_HUST | hello | 01:05 |
| zhangchi | How about your container test going one | 01:05 |
| zhangchi | s/one/on | 01:05 |
| XSM_HUST | Sorry, I am busy with the opening report of master's degree recently. | 01:06 |
| XSM_HUST | So, the container testing has not progressed. | 01:07 |
| zhangchi | OK, | 01:08 |
| zhangchi | It doesn't matter | 01:09 |
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| zhangchi | Get ready for your matter at hand | 01:11 |
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| XSM_HUST | tks | 01:11 |
| zhangchi | Last week zhangxiaohan has submmit a bp aims at tricircle tempest rate over 80% | 01:12 |
| zhangchi | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/654291/ | 01:14 |
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| zhangchi | The options of Series goals and Milestone target in tricircle bp page stays still and need to update | 01:21 |
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| zhangchi | any other topics | 01:41 |
| zhangchi | Welcome XSM_Hust | 01:42 |
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| zhangchi | Next session is July 31th | 01:42 |
| zhangchi | Wecome all | 01:42 |
| XSM_HUST | bye | 01:43 |
| zhangchi | if no other topics we will end meeting noew | 01:43 |
| zhangchi | bye | 01:43 |
| zhangchi | #endmeeting | 01:43 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 17 01:43:28 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 01:43 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2019/tricircle.2019-07-17-01.00.html | 01:43 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2019/tricircle.2019-07-17-01.00.txt | 01:43 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2019/tricircle.2019-07-17-01.00.log.html | 01:43 |
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| martial_ | Hello | 11:01 |
| martial_ | #startmeeting scientific-sig | 11:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 17 11:01:52 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is martial_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 11:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 11:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'scientific_sig' | 11:01 |
| dh3 | hi o/ | 11:02 |
| martial_ | so this week, we have a couple items to go through followed by AOB | 11:02 |
| martial_ | #topic Complete the OpenStack user survey and register scientific OpenStack deployments | 11:03 |
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| janders | hi Martial | 11:03 |
| martial_ | if you have a running OpenStack at your site, we request that you fill the survey | 11:03 |
| dh3 | we inadvertently did the survey twice (left hand meet right hand) and wondered if/how the results are deduped | 11:03 |
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| martial_ | #link https://www.openstack.org/user-survey/survey-2019/landing | 11:03 |
| b1airo | evening | 11:03 |
| martial_ | janders: hi :) | 11:04 |
| martial_ | #chair b1airo | 11:04 |
| openstack | Current chairs: b1airo martial_ | 11:04 |
| martial_ | dh3: I do not remember if the survey is related to our OpenStack ID | 11:04 |
| martial_ | b1airo: hi | 11:04 |
| b1airo | i think it is OpenStack ID related, or at least was... | 11:05 |
| martial_ | just checked and it shows my name at the top, so yes it is | 11:05 |
| martial_ | OpenStack User Survey 2019 "Step 1 of 5 for Martial Michel" | 11:05 |
| martial_ | Therefore it updates your content | 11:06 |
| martial_ | (ot at least there is a way to do de-duplication) | 11:06 |
| martial_ | but survey away please :) | 11:07 |
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| martial_ | #topic CFP for OpenInfra days Rome | 11:07 |
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| martial_ | Perfect time zone for this one :) | 11:07 |
| martial_ | #link https://openinfraday.it/call-for-paper/ | 11:08 |
| martial_ | "OpenInfra Day Italy 2019 will provide a 360-degrees view of Open Infrastructure – from computing, networking, and storage, through hands-on workshops and sessions focussing on real-world stories, more and more focusing on container orchestration and microservices architecture." | 11:08 |
| martial_ | two times, two locations: Milan october, 2nd 2019 – Rome october, 3rd 2019 | 11:09 |
| martial_ | #topic Shangai Summit and PTG | 11:10 |
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| martial_ | Adding this one to the list | 11:10 |
| martial_ | The Shanghai summit CFP is over, it was extended | 11:10 |
| martial_ | I hope everybody had a chance to submit their proposals | 11:11 |
| belmoreira | o/ | 11:11 |
| dh3 | good luck, sadly I spent my "foreign conference" budget already this year | 11:12 |
| martial_ | the Scientific SIG will be present with our usual two back to back sessions | 11:12 |
| martial_ | b1airo: coming to the summit? | 11:12 |
| martial_ | belmoreira: hopefully other opportunities will arise | 11:13 |
| martial_ | The Scientific SIG has also requested a presence at the PTG | 11:13 |
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| martial_ | From 1/2 day to 1 day (filled the survey last night) | 11:14 |
| janders | it was a great session in Denver. I'm not sure if I'll be in Shanghai at this stage, but would be very happy to do that again | 11:14 |
| martial_ | janders: if you are able to join us, please do so; because our role is much more outreach we tend to go to follow up sessions to understand how to best use novel technologies for our scientific workloads | 11:15 |
| b1airo | don't think i'll make it i'm afraid, already two trips to the States on the horizon before December | 11:15 |
| martial_ | #topic SC19 | 11:16 |
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| martial_ | following up on our conferences, we need to submit the BoF shortly | 11:16 |
| martial_ | Kubecon is at the same time as SC19 | 11:17 |
| b1airo | which will you choose martial_ ? | 11:17 |
| martial_ | I will be at SC19 | 11:17 |
| b1airo | :-) | 11:17 |
| martial_ | My colleague Rion (who has been on a few of our panels) will be at Kubecon | 11:17 |
| b1airo | Kubecon not Docker-y enough for you ;-) | 11:17 |
| martial_ | We are going to propose a BoF on cloud federation | 11:18 |
| martial_ | (also) | 11:18 |
| martial_ | as such my colleague Chris is the person that will be with us (if welcome) | 11:19 |
| martial_ | we started this conversation on the Scientific SIG Slack | 11:19 |
| martial_ | #topic Cloud Federation | 11:19 |
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| b1airo | ok, interesting, do you have a list of people interested in the federation bof yet? | 11:19 |
| martial_ | am going to make this a regular topic for the next couple months :) | 11:20 |
| martial_ | The work I have been participating on “Cloud Federation” is officially in public comment phase for publication as a NIST SP500 | 11:21 |
| martial_ | #link https://www.nist.gov/programs-projects/nist-cloud-computing-program-nccp | 11:21 |
| martial_ | it is open until September | 11:22 |
| martial_ | (open for review that is) | 11:22 |
| b1airo | does that provide a window for Summit feedback session on it? | 11:22 |
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| martial_ | unfortunately no, which is why I want to talk about it at our meetings | 11:23 |
| martial_ | we will be talking about it at PEARC19 | 11:23 |
| martial_ | (in a couple weeks) | 11:23 |
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| b1airo | ah yeah, i would have liked to head to PEARC, maybe next year | 11:24 |
| martial_ | so for people interested, this is the change to get your comments in on the efforts of federation | 11:24 |
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| martial_ | note that this is a foundation document (reference architecture) | 11:25 |
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| b1airo | perhaps you can give us an overview of NIST SP500 in a future session here martial_ ? | 11:25 |
| martial_ | and that there is still a lot of work to be done :) | 11:25 |
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| martial_ | I can, but I will invite my co-authors to join | 11:26 |
| b1airo | sounds good | 11:26 |
| martial_ | so likely the session that works better in the pm :) | 11:26 |
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| martial_ | (pm for me that is :) ) | 11:26 |
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| b1airo | better for me - almost midnight here now | 11:26 |
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| martial_ | #topic AOB | 11:27 |
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| martial_ | ad lib time :) | 11:27 |
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| b1airo | i'm working on a little containerisation problem at the moment and wondering if people can help... | 11:28 |
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| dh3 | if anyone has experience of instances spontaneously/persistently ending up kvm-paused I'd love to hear from you (pm/email) - not made much progress with Google or RH support | 11:28 |
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| janders | is temporary disk space depletion a possibility? | 11:29 |
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| dh3 | I wondered that but the hypervisor has >200GB free so I don't *think* so | 11:29 |
| b1airo | have a use-case for a client-server workflow that builds map cache layers hanging around a Postgres DB plus frontend webserver API, want to be able to fire the whole stack up on-demand within the HPC environment... | 11:30 |
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| b1airo | we've got a Docker container that has all the dependencies, and were thinking we could go from there to Singularity image | 11:32 |
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| martial_ | have you looked at Sarus? | 11:32 |
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| martial_ | looked like a very promising OCI compliant runtime | 11:34 |
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| b1airo | creating the image is easy enough, but naturally things like postgres and apache that have been installed into the image via apt would (IIUC) normally be started in Docker via `service start apache`, but those init.d service scripts try to do that via sudo... | 11:34 |
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| b1airo | yeah heard about Sarus at CUG, don't think it really adds much that would help in this use-case though | 11:35 |
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| dh3 | running more than one process inside a container always seems to end up being fragile, would multiple-containers be acceptable? | 11:36 |
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| b1airo | dh3: yep, i suspect the "proper" way to do this might be multiple Singularity service "instances" of the same container | 11:37 |
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| b1airo | not sure how they work from inside a Slurm job yet though... | 11:38 |
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| dh3 | my knee-jerk reaction is "wrapper script" but it's not terribly elegant | 11:38 |
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| b1airo | my main question is whether there are some standard practices for building containers that allow launching services without root escalation requirements | 11:39 |
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| b1airo | dh3: i think i've seen that pause issue at some point in the past, wondering if sw3 is around and has better memory than me | 11:41 |
| dh3 | do you mean, not-have-root when building the container? We haven't found a way round that (and suggest users do it in OpenStack where they do have root) | 11:41 |
| martial_ | you can create a local account on the container that matches the local user; only problem is that this needs to be done per user | 11:41 |
| martial_ | so a `docker build` per user | 11:41 |
| martial_ | so create the user last to be able to rely on the previous union layers | 11:42 |
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| b1airo | building isn't a problem, can do that on a local dev machine or via remote build service (and with Singularity 3.3 there's new fakeroot functionality that enables rootless builds, albeit with a couple of caveats) | 11:43 |
| dh3 | fakeroot> good to know, ta | 11:44 |
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| b1airo | how does such a matching container-internal user help martial_ ? | 11:46 |
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| martial_ | you were talking about root-less containers, I have a couple ubuntu based where you can sudo without a password but the container is run with a local user that matches the directory it is in | 11:50 |
| martial_ | not sure if it is the use case that you are envisioning | 11:51 |
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| b1airo | sounds like a potential avenue worth looking at | 11:52 |
| b1airo | any Dockerfiles you can point me to? | 11:52 |
| martial_ | not public but the core component you are looking for is | 11:53 |
| martial_ | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/uLdfgCPN/ | 11:54 |
| janders | I gotta run, I'll see you guys later. Till next time! | 11:54 |
| martial_ | that users get access to the webcam too | 11:54 |
| b1airo | do i smell a deep learning inference application? :-) | 11:55 |
| martial_ | you can specifiy the uid and gid as needed by adapting it | 11:55 |
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| martial_ | and using `ARG` | 11:56 |
| martial_ | OpenCV / Tensorflow application | 11:56 |
| b1airo | great, thanks martial_ , will see how we go | 11:57 |
| martial_ | #link https://github.com/datamachines/cuda_tensorflow_opencv | 11:57 |
| martial_ | built `FROM` that | 11:57 |
| b1airo | ok, time to wrap up and sleep | 11:58 |
| b1airo | till next time! | 11:58 |
| dh3 | thanks, bye! | 11:59 |
| martial_ | #endmeeting | 11:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 17 11:59:22 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 11:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2019/scientific_sig.2019-07-17-11.01.html | 11:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2019/scientific_sig.2019-07-17-11.01.txt | 11:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2019/scientific_sig.2019-07-17-11.01.log.html | 11:59 |
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| liuyulong | 1 | 13:29 |
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| liuyulong | #startmeeting neutron_l3 | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 17 14:00:14 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is liuyulong. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_l3' | 14:00 |
| njohnston_ | o/ | 14:00 |
| haleyb | hi | 14:00 |
| liuyulong | hi | 14:00 |
| liuyulong | #chair haleyb | 14:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: haleyb liuyulong | 14:00 |
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| liuyulong | #topic Announcements | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 14:01 | |
| ralonsoh | hi | 14:01 |
| liuyulong | I have a question | 14:01 |
| liuyulong | Where we can apply the early-bird discount for Shanghai summit and PTG? | 14:01 |
| liuyulong | I have not received any discount CODE recently. If you have any information, please let us know. | 14:01 |
| slaweq | hi | 14:02 |
| liuyulong | And we have this PTG plan etherpad now: | 14:02 |
| liuyulong | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Shanghai-Neutron-Planning | 14:03 |
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| liuyulong | And one more important thing is, seems we all still do not know the final official 'U' release name. | 14:03 |
| liuyulong | It is interesting now. | 14:03 |
| haleyb | there will be a vote eventually... | 14:04 |
| liuyulong | Chinese Pinyin does not have 'U' starts pronunciation. But I have sent a suggestion to the mail list, like a stone dropped into the ocean, without any response. | 14:04 |
| liuyulong | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-February/002706.html | 14:04 |
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| liuyulong | Allow me to quote the contents from that mail: | 14:06 |
| liuyulong | """ | 14:06 |
| liuyulong | And my name is Yulong, then 'Uylong' can be a good example to explain my suggestion, : ) | 14:06 |
| slaweq | so maybe we should propose 'Uylong' as a name of the most famous chineese neutron core ;) | 14:07 |
| haleyb | +2 :) | 14:08 |
| liuyulong | haleyb, What vote time is it usually? | 14:08 |
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| liuyulong | For OpenStack tradition, it should be a place name. Haha | 14:09 |
| haleyb | liuyulong: i don't remember when exactly, but yes, a place or street or ??? | 14:09 |
| liuyulong | Yes, mountains and rivers | 14:10 |
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| haleyb | Ussuri | 14:10 |
| haleyb | the TC will eventually send an email with a place to add suggestions | 14:11 |
| slaweq | yes, usually it was some wiki page or something like that where people were adding proposals for voting IIRC | 14:11 |
| liuyulong | Ussuri is more like a Russia word. For Chinese Pinyin, it is "Wusuli". | 14:12 |
| haleyb | we had the same problem in Hong Kong and chose Icehouse (street) | 14:12 |
| haleyb | not sure we will solve this in the L3 meeting though :) | 14:13 |
| liuyulong | Haha | 14:13 |
| liuyulong | OK, Any other announcements? | 14:13 |
| liuyulong | Sure, let's move on. | 14:13 |
| liuyulong | #topic Bugs | 14:13 |
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| liuyulong | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-July/007763.html | 14:14 |
| liuyulong | Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) was our bug deputy last week, thank you for the collection. | 14:14 |
| liuyulong | I will skip all the bugs which were fixed or the related patches are getting merged now. | 14:14 |
| liuyulong | First one | 14:14 |
| liuyulong | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1836642 | 14:14 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1836642 in neutron "Metadata responses are very slow sometimes" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 14:14 |
| liuyulong | Looks like nova metadata API was do nothing during that 16s+. | 14:15 |
| liuyulong | Here is an example: | 14:15 |
| liuyulong | #link http://logs.openstack.org/09/666409/7/check/tempest-full/08f4c53/controller/logs/screen-n-api-meta.txt.gz#_Jul_11_23_43_01_357100 | 14:15 |
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| liuyulong | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1821912 | 14:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1821912 in neutron "intermittent ssh failures in various scenario tests" [High,In progress] - Assigned to LIU Yulong (dragon889) | 14:15 |
| liuyulong | slaweq sent some similar logs here before. | 14:15 |
| slaweq | sean-k-mooney was looking into it yesterday with me, and he found that in case which we were analysing there was most of the time wasted on http://logs.openstack.org/09/666409/7/check/tempest-full/08f4c53/controller/logs/screen-q-svc.txt.gz#_Jul_11_23_43_04_584216 | 14:16 |
| slaweq | because when nova is preparing metadata for instance it is asking neutron server for security groups for instance :O | 14:16 |
| slaweq | and it looks that in this case that call to neutron took most of the time and caused problem | 14:16 |
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| slaweq | becuase of that I sent today DNM patch to check time-cost of those resync quota methods | 14:17 |
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| slaweq | njohnston_: ^^ that's explanation for Your question in review there :) | 14:17 |
| slaweq | but I'm also looking at other examples | 14:17 |
| haleyb | why does nova need that? is it something given in metadata? | 14:17 |
| liuyulong | We can not blame nova now, haha | 14:17 |
| slaweq | haleyb: I have no idea | 14:17 |
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| njohnsto_ | yes security groups are part of metadata | 14:18 |
| liuyulong | haleyb, I know some clue | 14:18 |
| slaweq | so, I was looking also at other examples and I found that it's not always this quota resync which takes long time | 14:18 |
| liuyulong | haleyb, when nova try to sync network info it will try to get the port and its secruity group informations. | 14:18 |
| slaweq | BUT, in every case in almost the same time as timeouted request to metadata is send, there is some API call in neutron which takes more than 10 seconds | 14:19 |
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| slaweq | so currently it looks for me like some slow down in neutron or maybe in db? I don't know | 14:19 |
| haleyb | just a thought, but we should look at the code making the call, and make sure it's not asking for everything, but supplying a good filter | 14:20 |
| liuyulong | DB slow query, maybe something like the bug we talked about last week. | 14:20 |
| slaweq | haleyb: sure, but it is working fine in most cases | 14:20 |
| njohnsto_ | in the long term it would be good to | 14:20 |
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| slaweq | in tempest job there is plenty of vms spawned, each of them is asking for public-keys to metadata | 14:21 |
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| slaweq | and sometimes, one of such queries is long (more than 10 seconds) | 14:21 |
| slaweq | and it's not last/middle/first test AFAICT - there is no any other pattern IMO | 14:21 |
| liuyulong | Some related neutron API call is here: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/network/neutronv2/api.py | 14:21 |
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| slaweq | the only common thing is that VM is doing request GET /2009-04-04/public-keys/ and it takes more than 10 seconds | 14:22 |
| slaweq | 10 seconds is set as timeout in cirros script | 14:22 |
| slaweq | so this fails | 14:22 |
| slaweq | even if later nova send proper 200 response | 14:22 |
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| slaweq | I will try to read one more time all analysis from sean and go through all those calls there | 14:23 |
| slaweq | maybe I will find something more | 14:23 |
| liuyulong | slaweq, OK, thank you for working on this. Where is your DNM patch? | 14:25 |
| haleyb | slaweq: i wonder how many SGs nova is asking for after noticing this... | 14:25 |
| haleyb | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/network/neutronv2/api.py#L760 | 14:25 |
| slaweq | liuyulong: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/671300/ | 14:25 |
| haleyb | it is at least passing the tenant_id though | 14:26 |
| liuyulong | slaweq, this should be the metadata API call neutron security group list: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/metadata/base.py#L145 | 14:26 |
| njohnston_ | a related bug filed under the tripleo project for similar failures in queens: https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1836046 | 14:26 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1836046 in tripleo "tempest.scenario.test_network_basic_ops.TestNetworkBasicOps Failing on queens" [Critical,Triaged] | 14:26 |
| slaweq | haleyb: but as I said, in other cases it wasn't exactly the same, and there was other call which took long time | 14:26 |
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| slaweq | njohnston_: yep | 14:26 |
| slaweq | and we have also d/s bug in bugzilla for the same | 14:27 |
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| liuyulong | One more thing is, we have added some time-consuming tracking log. It will help us to find some potential causes of CI failure. | 14:27 |
| liuyulong | L3 RPC time-costs: | 14:27 |
| liuyulong | #link http://logstash.openstack.org/#dashboard/file/logstash.json?query=message%3A%5C%22Time-cost%3A%5C%22%20and%20NOT%20message%3A%20%5C%22start%5C%22 | 14:27 |
| liuyulong | L3 router processing time: | 14:27 |
| liuyulong | #link http://logstash.openstack.org/#dashboard/file/logstash.json?query=message%3A%5C%22Finished%20a%20router%20update%5C%22 | 14:27 |
| njohnston_ | this is great stuff | 14:28 |
| liuyulong | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1836253 | 14:28 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1836253 in neutron "Sometimes InstanceMetada API returns 404 due to invalid InstaceID returned by _get_instance_and_tenant_id()" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Bence Romsics (bence-romsics) | 14:28 |
| liuyulong | And this one looks like also related to the former bugs. | 14:29 |
| slaweq | I though that it may be related | 14:29 |
| slaweq | but it seems that we don't have this cache configured in neutron-metadata agent in any job | 14:29 |
| slaweq | so it's not the case in gate | 14:29 |
| liuyulong | More like a race condition. | 14:30 |
| liuyulong | Next one | 14:31 |
| liuyulong | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1806032 | 14:31 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1806032 in neutron "neutron doesn't prevent the network update from external to internal when floatingIPs present" [Low,New] | 14:31 |
| liuyulong | This will be proceed again from my understanding. | 14:32 |
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| liuyulong | I don't know why a cloud wants to change the external network type, but it is indeed a neutron bug. | 14:32 |
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| liuyulong | Next | 14:33 |
| liuyulong | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1835914 | 14:33 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1835914 in neutron "Test test_show_network_segment_range failing" [Medium,Confirmed] | 14:33 |
| liuyulong | Let's try to contact Kailun Qin, he is the original author. | 14:33 |
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| liuyulong | And for this new feature, our test team have report many bugs. I will file them to the launchpad recently. | 14:35 |
| liuyulong | Next two has been talked last week: | 14:36 |
| liuyulong | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1834308 | 14:36 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1834308 in neutron "[DVR][DB] too many slow query during agent restart" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to LIU Yulong (dragon889) | 14:36 |
| liuyulong | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1835663 | 14:37 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1835663 in neutron "Some L3 RPCs are time-consuming especially get_routers" [Medium,Confirmed] | 14:37 |
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| liuyulong | Yes, I will upload some fix for the DB slow query. | 14:37 |
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| liuyulong | No more bug from me today. | 14:39 |
| slaweq | \o/ no more bugs \o/ :D | 14:39 |
| haleyb | there was one i had | 14:39 |
| haleyb | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1835731 | 14:39 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1835731 in neutron "Neutron server error: failed to update port DOWN" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Oleg Bondarev (obondarev) | 14:39 |
| slaweq | haleyb: :( | 14:39 |
| haleyb | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/669640/ | 14:39 |
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| haleyb | liuyulong had a -1 on the change, didn't know if we needed to discuss | 14:40 |
| liuyulong | We have remove that config for master branch | 14:40 |
| liuyulong | And that removal fixes the bug, IMO | 14:40 |
| liuyulong | But for the stable branches, it may need another approach. | 14:41 |
| ralonsoh | IMO, we can use this patch with a note and then cherry-pick to stable branches | 14:41 |
| ralonsoh | the logic seems to be correct in master and stable | 14:42 |
| slaweq | ralonsoh++ | 14:42 |
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| slaweq | and later merge liuyulong's patch which removes this option in master | 14:43 |
| ralonsoh | correct | 14:43 |
| haleyb | ok, seems we have a way forward, just didn't want it to fall through the cracks | 14:43 |
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| haleyb | that's all from me | 14:46 |
| ralonsoh | just a last note: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/521035/ | 14:46 |
| ralonsoh | reviews are welcome | 14:46 |
| liuyulong | OK, Let's move on. | 14:47 |
| liuyulong | #topic Routed Networks | 14:47 |
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| liuyulong | I have get no reponse for the concern of "externel network with multiple segments". | 14:48 |
| liuyulong | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/q/topic:bug/1764738 | 14:48 |
| liuyulong | no reponse and not too much activities from these patches. | 14:48 |
| ralonsoh | maybe mlavalle can ping David | 14:49 |
| wwriverrat | yes. sorry. I fear I'm a little over my head on how far reaching allowing multiple segments per host touches | 14:49 |
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| wwriverrat | Would love to have a 1-1 review with someone who has pulled ^ code and knows the intent of where it was going | 14:51 |
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| liuyulong | We are now facing such issue, external network has a large sets IPs, broadcast domain is too large. | 14:52 |
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| wwriverrat | Our original thought: why not allow multiple segments per network *everywhere* (thinking that for most implementations only one would be returned in a list) | 14:53 |
| wwriverrat | but this crosses api, rpc and agent boundries | 14:53 |
| wwriverrat | so... I know mlavalle and I were trying to find time to have a review session. Will keep trying | 14:54 |
| liuyulong | both mlavalle and tidwellr may help | 14:55 |
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| liuyulong | #topic On demand agenda | 14:56 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "On demand agenda (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 14:56 | |
| liuyulong | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/openflow-based-dvr | 14:56 |
| liuyulong | I've added a small NOTE here: we have abandoned it. | 14:56 |
| liuyulong | And these patches should be abandoned. I have no right to do that. | 14:56 |
| liuyulong | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/q/topic:openflow-based-dvr+status:open | 14:56 |
| liuyulong | We are running out of time. | 14:58 |
| liuyulong | Let | 14:58 |
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| liuyulong | us stop here | 14:58 |
| liuyulong | #endmeeting | 14:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 14:58 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 17 14:58:21 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2019/neutron_l3.2019-07-17-14.00.html | 14:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2019/neutron_l3.2019-07-17-14.00.txt | 14:58 |
| ralonsoh | bye | 14:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2019/neutron_l3.2019-07-17-14.00.log.html | 14:58 |
| liuyulong | bye | 14:58 |
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| jungleboyj | #startmeeting Cinder | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 17 16:00:35 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jungleboyj. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' | 16:00 |
| jungleboyj | Today's agenda: | 16:01 |
| jungleboyj | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-train-meetings | 16:01 |
| geguileo | hi! o/ | 16:01 |
| eharney | heyo | 16:01 |
| jungleboyj | Courtesy ping: jungleboyj whoami-rajat rajinir lseki carloss pots woojay erlon geguileo eharney rosmaita enriquetaso e0ne smcginnis davidsha walshh_ xyang hemna _hemna | 16:01 |
| davidsha | Hey | 16:01 |
| pots | morning! | 16:01 |
| Luzi | o/ | 16:01 |
| jungleboyj | @! | 16:01 |
| _pewp_ | jungleboyj ( ´ ▽ ` )ﾉ | 16:01 |
| enriquetaso | o/ | 16:01 |
| rosmaita | o/ | 16:02 |
| whoami-rajat | Hi | 16:02 |
| jungleboyj | Hey everyone. Wait one more minute to see if we get anyone else. | 16:03 |
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| jungleboyj | Ok. Guessing this is it for today. | 16:04 |
| jungleboyj | I know Sean is at a conference and didn't think he could make it. | 16:04 |
| jungleboyj | #topic Announcements | 16:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:04 | |
| jungleboyj | The usual reminder that we are almost to Milestone 2. | 16:04 |
| jungleboyj | #link https://releases.openstack.org/train/schedule.html | 16:05 |
| jungleboyj | So, we have Spec freeze next week and driver merge deadline. | 16:05 |
| jungleboyj | I have more discussion on specifics there later. | 16:05 |
| jungleboyj | Also a reminder that we have the deadline to show drivers trying to run with Py3.7y | 16:06 |
| jungleboyj | *Py3.7 | 16:06 |
| jungleboyj | I know people have been working on this as I have heard frustration in the channel. | 16:06 |
| jungleboyj | Is there anyone that has their CI working with Py3.7 that is here? | 16:06 |
| pots | I've got it working but not posting comments just yet. | 16:07 |
| jungleboyj | pots: Awesome. | 16:07 |
| jungleboyj | Would encourage those of you that have it working to keep an eye on the Cinder channel/mailing lists so you guys might be able to help each other. | 16:07 |
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| pots | A word of caution to others, I tried moving up to bionic to get Python 3.7 support but found that the kernel crashed when starting nested VMs, so I reverted to Xenial and just used the deadsnakes ppa for Python 3.7. | 16:08 |
| jungleboyj | I will be going through the CI results in the next couple of weeks to see who all is running with Py3.7. I have seen at least one py3.5. I am not going to mark a driver unsupported for that, but by the end of Train it will need to be py3.7 or it will get marked. | 16:09 |
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| jungleboyj | Thanks for the info pots | 16:10 |
| jungleboyj | Lets me to the main agenda | 16:10 |
| jungleboyj | #topic stable releases update (and controversy) | 16:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "stable releases update (and controversy) (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:11 | |
| jungleboyj | rosmaita: | 16:11 |
| rosmaita | the update is we've cut a bunch of releases from the stable branches, see the etherpad for details | 16:11 |
| rosmaita | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-releases-tracking | 16:11 |
| rosmaita | now the controversy | 16:11 |
| rosmaita | cinder stable/rocky and stable/queens are being held up over a question about a backport to stable/rocky | 16:11 |
| rosmaita | backport in question is "Declare multiattach support for HPE MSA" | 16:12 |
| rosmaita | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/639867/ | 16:12 |
| rosmaita | backport was allowed by cinder team because there wasn't a code change, just a change to a flag to indicate multiattach support | 16:12 |
| rosmaita | the objection is: has the already existing code been tested with stable/rocky? | 16:12 |
| rosmaita | the change in https://review.opendev.org/#/c/639867/ is to the dothill driver, which isn't a currently supported driver | 16:12 |
| rosmaita | but it *is* the base class for supported drivers that run 3rd party CI: Lenovo FC/ISCSI and HPMSA FC/ISCSI | 16:12 |
| rosmaita | but, unless i'm reading the logs incorrectly, those CIs are not currently testing multiattach on master (so I doubt they are testing it in the stable branches) | 16:12 |
| rosmaita | recent test logs so you can check my work: | 16:13 |
| jungleboyj | pots ^^^ | 16:13 |
| rosmaita | #link http://os-logs.tristero.net/hpmsa-ci/93/668793/13/HPMSA-FC/console.log.out | 16:13 |
| rosmaita | #link http://os-logs.tristero.net/hpmsa-ci/93/668793/13/HPMSA-iSCSI/console.log.out | 16:13 |
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| rosmaita | #link http://os-logs.tristero.net/lenovo-ci/93/668793/13/Lenovo-iSCSI/console.log.out | 16:13 |
| rosmaita | #link http://os-logs.tristero.net/lenovo-ci/93/668793/13/Lenovo-FC/console.log.out | 16:13 |
| rosmaita | i thik we have two options here: | 16:13 |
| rosmaita | (option-1) revert the change from stable/rocky | 16:13 |
| rosmaita | mriedem has already put up a patch for that | 16:14 |
| rosmaita | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/670086/ | 16:14 |
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| rosmaita | (option-2) the proposed release is 13.0.6; change it to 13.1.0 to indicate a new feature | 16:14 |
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| rosmaita | that's a lot to digest, so i'll wait a few minutes to hear what people think | 16:14 |
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| jungleboyj | rosmaita: Thanks. So I would like to hear from pots what level of testing they did since he is the one who worked on that. | 16:15 |
| eharney | the version bump option is kind of appealing to dodge the issue of landing a change in stable and then undoing it -- but as part of this... how much do we know about how well this works? has it been thoroughly tested? | 16:16 |
| rosmaita | i'm worried about the test coverage, tbh | 16:16 |
| jungleboyj | eharney: I am ok with the version bump. I am curious if this was backported based on customer request. | 16:17 |
| rosmaita | we may need to update the driver doc that sean just added to include you must run the multiattach tests in gate to be allowed to turn the flag on in a driver | 16:17 |
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| pots | The CI isn't testing it explicitly no. And yes, it was a customer request to backport it. | 16:18 |
| jungleboyj | rosmaita: That is a good thought. | 16:18 |
| eharney | we've found that just passing multiattach tempest tests is not sufficient to know that the feature even works at a basic level | 16:18 |
| jungleboyj | pots: Did you test it manually? | 16:18 |
| eharney | so it would be good to hear about hands-on testing with it | 16:18 |
| rosmaita | agree | 16:19 |
| jungleboyj | rosmaita: The 3rd Party CI requirement sounds like a good midcycle topic. | 16:19 |
| rosmaita | ok, i will add it to the etherpad | 16:20 |
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| pots | i did some manual testing but frankly I don't remember enough that i think it should count. i would welcome some guidance into what would be considered adequate testing. | 16:20 |
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| eharney | the scenario that broke on a handful of drivers was, attach to two instances, detach from one, and then make sure I/O continues to work as expected on the other instance | 16:20 |
| jungleboyj | eharney: ++ | 16:21 |
| jungleboyj | rosmaita: Added. | 16:21 |
| eharney | at least three drivers failed to do that without falling apart, which is a pretty minimal requirement for this to be a working feature | 16:21 |
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| jungleboyj | Agreed. | 16:22 |
| LiangFang | o/ | 16:22 |
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| pots | i'll check that out today. | 16:22 |
| jungleboyj | pots: Ok. Thank you. | 16:23 |
| rosmaita | we can hold up the release another week | 16:23 |
| jungleboyj | rosmaita: eharney If pots manually verifies the environment then are we ok with going for the 13.1.0 bump? | 16:23 |
| rosmaita | i think that would be a good compromise | 16:24 |
| jungleboyj | We probably shouldn't have backported it, but it was kind of a bug that they didn't have the flag for what was supported. | 16:24 |
| * jungleboyj sighs | 16:24 | |
| eharney | is the idea there that's also a promise of "we won't backport this kind of change in the future"? | 16:24 |
| rosmaita | i think we should discuss that | 16:24 |
| jungleboyj | eharney: Yeah, I think we should probably say that. | 16:24 |
| rosmaita | i think with the drivers we have a different situation that with the "regular" code | 16:25 |
| rosmaita | *than | 16:25 |
| jungleboyj | Yeah. That is a longer future discussion. | 16:25 |
| rosmaita | what i mean is that it may be ok to backport some feature-esque changes, nothing major | 16:25 |
| eharney | it was quite nice when we were a little more liberal with backports to driverfixes branches... not having that as an option leaves kind of a gap for what to do now | 16:25 |
| jungleboyj | eharney: Yeah, I was just thinking that. | 16:26 |
| jungleboyj | The longer lived branches are a blessing and a curese. | 16:26 |
| rosmaita | so the key point is that we're not promising anything by what we do with stable/rocky for this next release | 16:26 |
| jungleboyj | rosmaita: Yes. | 16:26 |
| eharney | right | 16:26 |
| rosmaita | ok, cool, just want to make sure that's in the minutes | 16:27 |
| jungleboyj | #action pots to test the requested multi-attach scenario | 16:27 |
| jungleboyj | #action we will go with 13.1.0 once the results have been reported. | 16:27 |
| rosmaita | The People don't seem to be demanding new stable/rocky and stable/queens releases ATM, so i think it is ok to wait | 16:27 |
| jungleboyj | Everyone ok with that response? | 16:27 |
| jungleboyj | rosmaita: ++ | 16:28 |
| rosmaita | i am good with that response | 16:28 |
| eharney | yeah | 16:28 |
| jungleboyj | Ok. Cool. Yay for resolving controversy. | 16:28 |
| rosmaita | that's all from me, then | 16:28 |
| jungleboyj | rosmaita: Thank you for keeping up with those releases. | 16:29 |
| rosmaita | np, glad to stir things up | 16:29 |
| jungleboyj | #topic Spec: Leverage compression hardware accelerator | 16:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Spec: Leverage compression hardware accelerator (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:29 | |
| jungleboyj | LiangFang: | 16:29 |
| LiangFang | hi | 16:29 |
| jungleboyj | Hello | 16:29 |
| LiangFang | I have reworked with the spec | 16:29 |
| jungleboyj | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/652275/ | 16:30 |
| LiangFang | it seems the spec will be refused to check-in on 7-22? | 16:30 |
| LiangFang | July 22 is the latest day for train release, right/ | 16:30 |
| jungleboyj | LiangFang: I wouldn't say that. It depends on if eharney and rosmaita are ok with the updates you have made. | 16:31 |
| rosmaita | i will read through this afternoon | 16:31 |
| LiangFang | thanks | 16:31 |
| LiangFang | eharney: I and Mazheng did test for NFS and ceph as backend | 16:31 |
| jungleboyj | I will do the same. I know we talked about this at the PTG and I thought had worked through the majority of the issues. Hope we can get it merged. | 16:32 |
| LiangFang | it should work | 16:32 |
| eharney | it works because those drivers just don't end up using the hardware compressor path at all? | 16:32 |
| LiangFang | the volume will be mapped to a path | 16:33 |
| rosmaita | LiangFang: i do have a question about nova -- i guess we need to be sure that nova can handle a compressed container_format gracefully -- i'm not sure what it does now if you have a container_format it doesn't understand | 16:33 |
| LiangFang | and this path is a normal file path | 16:33 |
| eharney | i don't think that's accurate for nfs with snapshots, but i might be missing something | 16:34 |
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| LiangFang | rosmaita: nova with new container_format, we will do test today, thanks | 16:35 |
| LiangFang | and let you know | 16:35 |
| rosmaita | LiangFang: thanks! | 16:36 |
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| LiangFang | eharney: to just use nfs as backend storage, no snapshots yet | 16:36 |
| LiangFang | we only tested nfs without snapshots | 16:37 |
| LiangFang | eharney: do you mean a volume is created from NFS, and then we create snapshot on this volume, and then upload this volume as image? | 16:38 |
| jungleboyj | Ok. So, I think there some updates needed to the spec and we will review. | 16:38 |
| jungleboyj | And some testing done. | 16:38 |
| eharney | LiangFang: yes | 16:39 |
| eharney | i'll check out the spec again | 16:39 |
| LiangFang | eharney: ok, we will do this test today | 16:39 |
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| LiangFang | eharney: thanks | 16:39 |
| jungleboyj | Changes need to be merged by 7/25 | 16:39 |
| LiangFang | jungleboyj: OK | 16:40 |
| jungleboyj | So, we will do one last check-in on these things next Wednesday. | 16:40 |
| LiangFang | we will do our best to catch train release | 16:40 |
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| * jungleboyj giggles. Catch the Train | 16:40 | |
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| LiangFang | :) | 16:41 |
| jungleboyj | Ok. So lets move on. | 16:41 |
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| LiangFang | currently we have 2 engineer working on this | 16:41 |
| jungleboyj | #topic Review prep for Milestone 2. | 16:42 |
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| jungleboyj | So, we have a couple of drivers that I have been pinged about: | 16:42 |
| jungleboyj | First, re-adding the Infortrend driver. | 16:42 |
| jungleboyj | Their CI is running and passing again. | 16:42 |
| jungleboyj | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/523659/21 | 16:42 |
| jungleboyj | The vendor indicates that they plan to continue support. | 16:43 |
| jungleboyj | They have updated the driver to support the new exception handling. | 16:43 |
| jungleboyj | In driver instead of in cinder/exception. | 16:43 |
| jungleboyj | I am ok with adding it back in unless others have objections. | 16:43 |
| jungleboyj | Know it is a little late but given that it is a re-add I don't feel a need to nit-pick. | 16:44 |
| jungleboyj | I voted in the driver. Please add your votes. | 16:44 |
| jungleboyj | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/671195/ | 16:44 |
| jungleboyj | Now this one is more fun. :-) | 16:44 |
| jungleboyj | pots: You want to explain? | 16:45 |
| pots | Sure. So I need to add a driver for Seagate storage arrays. | 16:45 |
| pots | Seagate acquired dothill a few years ago and took over maintenance of the dothill driver and the drivers that subclass it. The dothill driver became unsupported at that point, which causes a little confusion because other drivers subclass the dothill driver. | 16:45 |
| pots | Rather than adding a new Seagate driver and subclassing the dothill driver, I submitted a patch (WIP) to re-enable the dothill driver and rename it to "Seagate". | 16:45 |
| pots | The patch is cosmetic changes only, and includes documentation, release note and support matrix updates, and patches to the the HPMSA and Lenovo drivers to use the new class names. | 16:46 |
| pots | So the end result is that the dothill driver is gone, replaced by a "supported" Seagate driver. | 16:46 |
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| pots | This seemed like a better long term solution than just subclassing the dothill driver again. | 16:47 |
| jungleboyj | So, I think that this is actually a good change as it is getting rid of the weird driver that isn't a driver. | 16:47 |
| jungleboyj | The driver has been tested all along as part of the HPE MSA and Lenovo CIs. | 16:48 |
| jungleboyj | pots: Will add a CI job for it. | 16:48 |
| jungleboyj | They have been active and kept their CI running. | 16:48 |
| jungleboyj | So, it is a little late in the game to 'add' the driver but I think it is low risk and there is a good argument for it. | 16:48 |
| eharney | this is ok, but i suspect that in the long run it will be easier to keep all this clean by moving most of the code to a common class that all three can inherit from instead of inheriting drivers from other drivers | 16:49 |
| * jungleboyj shakes my finger at people for coming in at the last minute. ;-) | 16:49 | |
| eharney | i wouldn't hold it up for that now though | 16:49 |
| rosmaita | i agree with eharney | 16:49 |
| eharney | this is bound to cause some confusion and messes later | 16:49 |
| jungleboyj | eharney: Well, that is how it currently is and it has caused confusion because we have one driver that can't actually be run by itself. | 16:49 |
| rosmaita | we can worry about it when seagate decides to stop supporting it :P | 16:49 |
| eharney | it's not | 16:50 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Didn't like what we are currently doing. | 16:50 |
| eharney | because the thing it was inheriting from currently was still a "driver" | 16:50 |
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| jungleboyj | eharney: Ok, I don't understand. | 16:50 |
| eharney | iirc | 16:50 |
| jungleboyj | eharney: No, it was just a dothill library. | 16:50 |
| jungleboyj | Lenovo and HPE MSA used it. | 16:50 |
| eharney | named DotHillISCSIDriver | 16:50 |
| pots | the dothill driver is an actual driver, it just contains extra code now to prevent it from being invoked without subclassing. | 16:51 |
| jungleboyj | pots: Right. | 16:51 |
| jungleboyj | eharney: So what are you proposing for the future? | 16:51 |
| rosmaita | it is definitely a plus that it will be a "real" driver and have CI | 16:52 |
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| eharney | the proposal is to make a library of the common shared code that isn't a driver | 16:53 |
| jungleboyj | rosmaita: Ok. So we are short on time. It sounds like we are in agreement that this is good for now and making a library for the shared code in the future could be good. | 16:53 |
| jungleboyj | eharney: Ok. | 16:53 |
| rosmaita | jungleboyj: that is my position in a nutshell | 16:53 |
| jungleboyj | Something else to discuss for the mid-cycle. How we would like that to happen. | 16:54 |
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| jungleboyj | Ok, specs that are waiting to merge. | 16:54 |
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| jungleboyj | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/651480/ The Untyped vol to default vol type is close. | 16:55 |
| jungleboyj | Would be nice if we could agree and merge that. | 16:55 |
| jungleboyj | I think the volume rekey is good to go: | 16:56 |
| jungleboyj | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/664973/ | 16:56 |
| jungleboyj | There are two small comments that need to be addressed and then we can merge it. | 16:56 |
| eharney | yeah i'll tweak the "work items" list | 16:56 |
| jungleboyj | eharney: Ok. Great and then I will merge it. | 16:56 |
| jungleboyj | Last. The Image Encryption sepc: | 16:57 |
| jungleboyj | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/608663/ | 16:57 |
| jungleboyj | So, I think it is down to whether eharney 's comments are addressed. | 16:57 |
| Luzi | eharney, did you read mhen | 16:58 |
| Luzi | s comment | 16:58 |
| eharney | my only outstanding concern was more about the general question of having multiple ways that images are encrypted, but we've collectively decided that that is ok, so i'm ok with this one | 16:58 |
| eharney | removed my -2, will give it another read-over soon | 16:59 |
| Luzi | eharney, thank you | 16:59 |
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| jungleboyj | eharney: Ok. Cool. So, I will read through it after the meeting. We will try to get this merged for you Luzi | 17:00 |
| eharney | Luzi: thanks for tolerating all of my complaining on this one :) | 17:00 |
| jungleboyj | If you can provide updated patch once we have made comments. | 17:01 |
| jungleboyj | :-) | 17:01 |
| jungleboyj | Ok. Where did the time go. It is 12:01 already. | 17:01 |
| jungleboyj | So, thank you everyone for a productive meeting. | 17:01 |
| Luzi | jungleboyj, i will do so | 17:01 |
| jungleboyj | Lets get specs and drivers merged. | 17:01 |
| jungleboyj | Look forward to talking to you next week. | 17:01 |
| jungleboyj | Reminder to check the etherpad on the mid-cycle for next month. I am booked. | 17:02 |
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| jungleboyj | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-train-mid-cycle-planning | 17:02 |
| jungleboyj | Don't forget to vote for Shanghai presentations! | 17:02 |
| jungleboyj | Talk to you all next week. | 17:02 |
| jungleboyj | #endmeeting | 17:02 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 17 17:02:51 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:02 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2019/cinder.2019-07-17-16.00.html | 17:02 |
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| timburke | #startmeeting swift | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 17 21:00:01 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is timburke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'swift' | 21:00 |
| timburke | who's here for the swift meeting? | 21:00 |
| alecuyer | hello! | 21:00 |
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| mattoliverau | o/ | 21:00 |
| rledisez | hi! | 21:00 |
| kota_ | o/ | 21:00 |
| tdasilva | hi | 21:00 |
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| timburke | clayg? | 21:01 |
| clayg | oh yeah | 21:02 |
| timburke | agenda: | 21:02 |
| timburke | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Swift | 21:02 |
| timburke | #topic shanghai | 21:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "shanghai (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:02 | |
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| timburke | i made an etherpad! | 21:03 |
| timburke | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift-ptg-shanghai | 21:03 |
| kota_ | +1 | 21:03 |
| mattoliverau | \o/ | 21:03 |
| clayg | oh snap is it etherpad time already! 😓 | 21:03 |
| timburke | if you're coming (or even just hopeful that you'll be coming), please add yourself! | 21:03 |
| timburke | clayg, mainly because of logistics -- foundation wants a rough headcount | 21:04 |
| timburke | i also started seeding some potential onboarding topics; please add anything else that might be good "intro" material | 21:04 |
| mattoliverau | I really need to poke Suse to make a decision, ecp because visa's will be involved. | 21:05 |
| mattoliverau | *esp | 21:05 |
| timburke | i feel like this is an awesome opportunity to reach out and meet potential new contributors | 21:05 |
| alecuyer | Same with OVH I think (romain?) | 21:05 |
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| rledisez | alecuyer: you can copy/paste my line ;) | 21:05 |
| alecuyer | right :-) | 21:05 |
| tdasilva | anyone has the link for the visa form? can you add to etherpad? can't seem to find it | 21:06 |
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| rledisez | #link https://openstackfoundation.formstack.com/forms/travelsupportshanghai | 21:06 |
| rledisez | this one? ^ | 21:06 |
| timburke | i'll be sure to bring up shanghai again when i see the discount codes go out | 21:06 |
| rledisez | oups, no :) | 21:06 |
| tdasilva | rledisez: yep, thanks! | 21:07 |
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| tdasilva | just noticed the dealine too, hadn't seen that yet | 21:07 |
| timburke | #link http://www.china-embassy.org/eng/visas/ | 21:07 |
| timburke | #link https://openstackfoundation.formstack.com/forms/visa_form_shanghai_summit | 21:07 |
| timburke | etherpad was the main thing i wanted to bring up regarding the summit; does anyone have other questions about it? | 21:09 |
| clayg | is this one of those places you can't bring a laptop/phone? | 21:09 |
| alecuyer | I was wondering about that | 21:09 |
| timburke | ...maybe. i'll probably have a freshly-formatted computer, fwiw | 21:09 |
| tdasilva | or keep it with you at all times? | 21:10 |
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| rledisez | alecuyer: i'll ask our SOC team what they think about that | 21:10 |
| tdasilva | that's my hope/plan | 21:10 |
| timburke | moving on | 21:11 |
| kota_ | not sure it must be fresh, but fwiw we cannot reach out any cloud service including google thre. | 21:11 |
| timburke | #topic releases | 21:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "releases (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:11 | |
| kota_ | w/o roaming | 21:11 |
| timburke | kota_, good to know | 21:11 |
| timburke | there's a new swiftclient release! | 21:12 |
| timburke | it'd been a while, and there was an interesting/nasty bug related to SLO that bit a customer of ours | 21:12 |
| timburke | hopefully *just* us ;-) | 21:12 |
| clayg | 3.8.0? https://pypi.org/project/python-swiftclient/ | 21:13 |
| clayg | looks like it! https://pypi.org/project/python-swiftclient/#history | 21:13 |
| clayg | WTG! | 21:13 |
| timburke | that's the one! | 21:13 |
| timburke | and i merged the authors/changelog patch for swift 2.22.0 | 21:13 |
| clayg | release machine!!! | 21:14 |
| timburke | and requested a release: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/671350/ | 21:14 |
| patchbot | patch 671350 - releases - swift 2.22.0 release - 1 patch set | 21:14 |
| kota_ | great | 21:14 |
| clayg | 🙌 | 21:14 |
| mattoliverau | ncie | 21:14 |
| mattoliverau | nice even | 21:14 |
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| timburke | a lot of great stuff is going into these releases and i want to thank you all for your hard work | 21:15 |
| timburke | which leads nicely into updates... | 21:15 |
| timburke | #topic py3 | 21:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "py3 (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:16 | |
| timburke | we've got py2 func tests against py3 services in the gate! | 21:16 |
| timburke | i've proposed https://review.opendev.org/#/c/670353/ to get swift on py3 in devstack | 21:17 |
| patchbot | patch 670353 - devstack - Remove Swift from default DISABLED_PYTHON3_PACKAGES - 1 patch set | 21:17 |
| mattoliverau | awesome work | 21:17 |
| timburke | and already fixed up vagrant-swift-all-in-one to let you run services on py3 | 21:17 |
| clayg | so py3 | 21:18 |
| timburke | once i had that, i figured we'd get the most bang-for-the-buck with probe tests | 21:18 |
| timburke | so now we've got https://review.opendev.org/#/c/671333/ | 21:19 |
| patchbot | patch 671333 - swift - py3: (mostly) port probe tests - 2 patch sets | 21:19 |
| timburke | which already found bugs! that kicked out... | 21:19 |
| timburke | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/671167/ | 21:19 |
| patchbot | patch 671167 - swift - py3: fix up listings on sharded containers - 1 patch set | 21:19 |
| timburke | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/670932/ | 21:19 |
| patchbot | patch 670932 - swift - py3: fix up swift-orphans - 1 patch set | 21:19 |
| timburke | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/670933/ | 21:19 |
| patchbot | patch 670933 - swift - py3: fix object-replicator rsync output parsing - 2 patch sets | 21:19 |
| timburke | and https://review.opendev.org/#/c/671168/ | 21:19 |
| patchbot | patch 671168 - swift - Fix up errno checking - 1 patch set | 21:19 |
| timburke | so... release with initial support is great! but there's also more work ahead ;-) | 21:20 |
| kota_ | ic | 21:20 |
| mattoliverau | good to find these now. | 21:20 |
| alecuyer | nice finds:) | 21:20 |
| timburke | func tests still need to get ported, of course. and we've got a lot of progress there, too | 21:21 |
| timburke | next up | 21:21 |
| timburke | #topic lots of small files | 21:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "lots of small files (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:21 | |
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| timburke | we've got a working gate again! and merges from master are happening again (thanks kota_!) | 21:22 |
| timburke | alecuyer, rledisez, kota_ how's it going? | 21:23 |
| alecuyer | thanks kota_ for the merge. | 21:23 |
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| kota_ | yup | 21:23 |
| alecuyer | haven't been able to work on LOSF this week, but I have read the comments you made on the test patch tim, thanks. I will work on that , | 21:24 |
| timburke | i *almost* got tests passing :P | 21:24 |
| alecuyer | and I will get back to the HTTP patch | 21:24 |
| alecuyer | timburke on SAIO you mean? :) | 21:25 |
| timburke | 👍 | 21:25 |
| timburke | on py3. there's just this one tricky guy where OSError and IOError get confused... | 21:25 |
| alecuyer | ouch oh yes , we can discuss that after the meeting or on the review, I have to check on that | 21:26 |
| timburke | k | 21:26 |
| timburke | is there anything else the rest of us could/should be doing? | 21:26 |
| alecuyer | I saw your comments about the headers (volume header, object header) | 21:27 |
| alecuyer | kota_ also had comments about it a while back (I think kota you wished for a fixed size) | 21:27 |
| alecuyer | so if anyone wants to comment on that and make the headers better, please comment (swift/obj/header.py) | 21:28 |
| timburke | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/666378/ | 21:28 |
| patchbot | patch 666378 - swift (feature/losf) - Add tests for vfile.py - 7 patch sets | 21:28 |
| kota_ | hopefully. but it's general comments so if we should make it flexible, it's not strong opinion. I'll check the comment. | 21:28 |
| alecuyer | yes, thanks | 21:28 |
| timburke | all right | 21:29 |
| timburke | #topic auto-sharding | 21:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "auto-sharding (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:29 | |
| timburke | mattoliverau, how's it going? | 21:30 |
| mattoliverau | I haven't had much of a chance to progress this much, been a busy week. But I did see your patches timburke | 21:30 |
| mattoliverau | looked at your ring change which some extra data. Looking good. Haven't tested it much though | 21:31 |
| mattoliverau | the ring service is interesting. | 21:31 |
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| mattoliverau | I really need to write a probe test re:shrinking with the new autosharding to make sure it behaves. | 21:32 |
| mattoliverau | With timburke's rewored ring change, I might remove the patch chain around it | 21:32 |
| mattoliverau | *reworked | 21:32 |
| mattoliverau | wow, I can't type pre breakfast :P | 21:33 |
| timburke | oh, right! i'd already started paging this stuff out. the ring-as-a-service thing was just an idea i had since we always seem hesitant to add rings to a daemon that didn't have them before... | 21:33 |
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| mattoliverau | let's try that again.. with timburke's reworked ring change I might rebase and rework the patch chain around it. To keep patches more generic | 21:34 |
| timburke | sounds good | 21:34 |
| mattoliverau | that's all I got as an update. | 21:35 |
| timburke | #topic symlink-backed versioning | 21:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "symlink-backed versioning (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:35 | |
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| timburke | i mainly added this because clayg said he might have an update for the meeting earlier :-) | 21:35 |
| clayg | oh good! | 21:36 |
| clayg | please feel free to look at hardlinks -> p 633094 | 21:36 |
| patchbot | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/633094/ - swift - Allow "harder" symlinks - 14 patch sets | 21:36 |
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| clayg | hardlinks are really cool - they're symlinks that put a lot of useful info into your container listing for you | 21:36 |
| clayg | versioned writes is very close to moving to using these hardlinks to make things operate a lot smoother on the backend -> p 633857 | 21:37 |
| patchbot | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/633857/ - swift - WIP: symlink-backed versioned_writes - 3 patch sets | 21:37 |
| clayg | instead of COPYs to move things in and out of the stack - we just need to update some links in the version container | 21:38 |
| timburke | clayg, you really ought to add yourself as co-author on those ;-) | 21:38 |
| clayg | ok | 21:38 |
| timburke | i definitely like the reduced data movement aspect; i'm super-excited | 21:39 |
| mattoliverau | +1 | 21:39 |
| clayg | yeah it's super great | 21:40 |
| timburke | anything else we can do for you other than go review it? | 21:40 |
| clayg | right, yeah play with hardlinks - I was toying around with adding something to python-swiftclient `swift link ...` | 21:41 |
| clayg | but i think i set that aside realizing that it was a pretty significant set of work | 21:41 |
| timburke | yeah -- i remember you trying to bend it to creating a symlink before and not having much luck... we surely *should* add a `link` subcommand... | 21:42 |
| timburke | maybe that's a thing i could take on... i realized as part of the probe tests getting ported that i need to do some updates to swiftclient to get around https://bugs.python.org/issue37093... | 21:43 |
| clayg | but aside from that yeah just a review on the hardlinks - it's a foundational piece of the versioned_writes update - which is pretty significant | 21:43 |
| timburke | as long as i'm looking at the client anyway... | 21:43 |
| clayg | but at this point (EoD) it's going to be significantly well tested - so I'm happy with how that's been going | 21:44 |
| clayg | ok, cool! | 21:44 |
| clayg | thanks timburke | 21:44 |
| timburke | np | 21:44 |
| timburke | #topic open discussion | 21:44 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:44 | |
| timburke | anything else we'd like to bring up today? | 21:44 |
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| mattoliverau | nope | 21:46 |
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| timburke | all right | 21:47 |
| timburke | thank you all for coming, and thank you for working on swift! | 21:47 |
| timburke | #endmeeting | 21:47 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 21:47 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 17 21:47:57 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:47 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2019/swift.2019-07-17-21.00.html | 21:48 |
| mattoliverau | thanks timburke | 21:48 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2019/swift.2019-07-17-21.00.txt | 21:48 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2019/swift.2019-07-17-21.00.log.html | 21:48 |
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