Friday, 2018-12-14

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ekcs#startmeeting congressteammeeting04:00
openstackMeeting started Fri Dec 14 04:00:44 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ekcs. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.04:00
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ekcsHello all. happy friday!04:00
ekcstopics here as usual: #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/congress-meeting-topics04:01
ekcsfeel free to add your topics!04:01
akhil_jainekcs: hi04:01
ekcshello akhil_jain ! how’s it been?04:01
akhil_jainEvery good. Just joined japan nec office this week.04:02
akhil_jainIts chilling out here04:02
ekcsooh! permanently or temporarily?04:02
ekcshaha I see it’s colder out there huh.04:02
akhil_jainIt will be around 3 months for now04:02
ekcscool! hope you enjoy the time there!04:03
ekcstokyo?04:03
akhil_jainThanks. Yes tokyo04:03
ekcshope you get to do some fun stuff both for work and outside =)04:04
akhil_jainHaha. Right :)04:04
akhil_jainWhat about you? Hows everything04:04
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ekcsthings are good! quite tired today cuz I haven’t gotten enough sleep. but things are well. happy to be doing fun work.04:05
akhil_jainYa seen your long comments with healthy info04:06
ekcshaha right.04:06
ekcswell I guess we can dive in then.04:06
akhil_jainRight.04:06
ekcs#topic json data spec04:07
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ekcsramineni not here right now. but do you have any comments on the json spec now?04:07
ekcshttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/616077/04:07
akhil_jainNone from my side. I think we should give it a go04:08
akhil_jainPlease let me know if i can help in any way04:09
ekcsgot it. well maybe we’ll circle back to it if ramineni joins.04:09
ekcswill do.04:09
akhil_jainHm04:09
ekcslet me know any time if you have questions.04:09
akhil_jainOk sure.04:10
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ekcsok moving on then.04:11
ekcs#topic patches04:11
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ekcsI listed on the etherpad some patches we may want to discuss.04:11
ekcsbut I’m not sure they really make sense without ramineni.04:11
akhil_jainHm. I just have to update nova test. According to comments. Rest are fine from my end.04:12
ekcsok then!04:12
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ekcswell it looks like a short meeting then.04:13
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ramineniekcs: akhil_jain: hi04:13
ekcshi ramineni !04:13
ekcshappy friday!04:14
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ekcswe’re just looking at the patches listed in the etherpad to see if there’s anything to discuss here.04:14
ekcshttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/congress-meeting-topics04:14
ramineniok04:14
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ekcsthe monasca webhook tests have been switched to a feature flag to make the test work for both rocky and stein as ramineni suggested.04:18
akhil_jainAlso, i added that monasca are fine from my end. Only changes in nova test left.04:19
ramineniekcs: ya , just saw that. thanks for doing ,04:19
ekcsyup!04:19
ramineniekcs: ill review the patches today04:19
ekcsthanks for the suggestion.04:19
ekcsgreat take your time.04:20
ekcsthe two z3 patches have been there for quite some time. I think they are ready but I’m not sure whether ramineni wants to review them or it’s ok to merge.04:21
ekcslet me know whether we should hold it or not =)04:21
ramineniekcs: I don't have much context with z3 , that's the reason left those, ill try to review those today , else feel free to merge the same by Monday04:22
ekcsyea that makes sense. not a probem if you don’t get to it. just didn’t want to merge yet in case you wanted to review.04:23
ekcsok well. anything else to say on patches?04:24
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ekcsok let’s move on then.04:27
ekcs#topic json data spec04:28
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ekcscircling back for a moment to the spec.04:28
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ekcsas i mentioned, i’ve updated the spec to propose the new code as an experimental component rather a separate repo.04:28
ramineni+104:30
ramineniwill have a look04:30
ekcsdiscussing with pierre cregut and thinking through the various options helped me get deeper clarity on how the postgres portion could work as a data extraction layer for agnostic. but that’s left to a future spec if we decide to do it.04:30
ekcsgreat! most of it is unchanged.04:30
ekcs#topic open discussion04:31
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ekcsok anything else we want to talk about here?04:31
akhil_jainNot from my side04:34
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ekcsok then! let’s wrap up the meeting then.04:36
ekcsthanks for the sync’up.04:37
ekcshave a great weekend!04:37
akhil_jainThanks, happy weekend. Bye.04:38
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ekcsbye!04:41
ekcs#endmeeting04:42
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mlavalle#startmeeting neutron_drivers14:00
openstackMeeting started Fri Dec 14 14:00:54 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
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haleybhi14:01
slaweqhi o/14:01
mlavalleo/14:01
haleybmlavalle: i have a hard stop today in :30 or so14:01
mlavallelet's give a couple of minutes to others to join in14:01
mlavallehaleyb: ack14:01
slaweqamotoki and yamamoto wrote today that they will be not available on meeting14:02
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mlavalleoh yeah, I just saw the email chain in my inbox14:03
mlavalleso let's get going14:03
mlavalle#topic RFEs14:03
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mlavalleFirst up for today is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/179692514:05
openstackLaunchpad bug 1796925 in neutron "[RFE] port forwarding floating IP QoS" [Wishlist,New] - Assigned to LIU Yulong (dragon889)14:05
mlavalleWe has previously discussed this one14:05
mlavalleand we requested clarifications14:05
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slaweqfor me this rfe sounds reasonable14:08
mlavalleI am also +114:09
slaweqwe should add some API extension to make it discoverable and document it carefully to explain how it works14:09
slaweqbut it's fine for me14:09
haleyb+114:09
mlavallemhhhh, let me clarify slaweq's comment14:10
* mlavalle is always in principle against adding to our extensions sprawl14:10
mlavalledo we really need an extension? should it have been this way since the beginning with port forwardings?14:11
mlavalleI agree on the extensive documentation, including a release note14:11
slaweqIMO it's new feature for port forwarding, no?14:11
slaweqok14:12
mlavallethe way I see it, QoS for floating ips is already in place14:12
slaweqif qos policy will be added to floating ip and not to: https://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/network/v2/?expanded=create-port-forwarding-detail#create-port-forwarding14:13
mlavallewe just forgot to enforce it when the FIP is used for port forwarding, right?14:14
slaweq*not to body of this request, than it may be without api extension - but I'm not sure how it works now if I will try to associate qos policy to such FIP - will it raise error? or will it be accepted?14:14
mlavallehere's what I propose.... I will respond to the RFE indicting that we approve it as long as it only involves associating QoS policies to FIPs being used for port forwarding14:16
slaweq+114:16
mlavalleany other change will require more discussion14:16
mlavalleand I will also indicate the need for good documentation14:17
slaweqI agree14:17
mlavalleyou were right in pointing out the difference slaweq :-)14:17
mlavalleit was clarifying14:18
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mlavalledoes this work for you haleyb ?14:18
slaweqthx :)14:18
haleybyes, works for me14:18
mlavalleok, for the sake of time, I'll leave those notes later14:18
mlavalleNext up is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/180463414:19
openstackLaunchpad bug 1804634 in neutron "[RFE] l3_agent should separate router_info creation logic" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Yang Youseok (ileixe)14:19
mlavallefor this one, there are already patches, and haleyb indicated in them that RFE has to be approved first14:20
haleybyes, there are patches for both neutron and neutron-lib14:20
slaweqI think that this should have specs which will be later also kind of documentation14:21
mlavallethis sounds like a step forward from what Carl Baldwin and I did about 3 years ago14:22
slaweqas IIUC some 3rd party projects may be impacted with those changes too14:22
mlavallebut the submitter is taking more of an external view14:22
mlavalleI think Carl and I were biased with our reference point of view14:23
mlavalleso I think it is an interesting proposal, as long as we have a spec, as slaweq indicates14:24
haleybyes, i agree it is useful, but needs more documentation since it seems the intent is for out of tree users to extend things14:25
mlavalleok, let's move ahead with it, asking for a spec, does this works for everybody?14:26
haleybmlavalle: it will impact the intel router_info work of course...14:26
mlavallehaleyb: yeap14:26
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mlavalleso let's give the wider community a chance to weigh in through the spec14:26
mlavalleagree?14:27
slaweq+114:27
haleyb+114:27
mlavalleok, before we go14:27
mlavallebefore haleyb goes....14:27
mlavalle1) are you guys going to be around next Friday for this meeting? It will be the 21st?14:28
slaweqI will be here14:28
slaweqit will be my last day at work before Christmass14:28
mlavalleso I will assume our Japanese friends will also be around, so we are having meeting then14:29
mlavalle2) https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/179521214:29
openstackLaunchpad bug 1795212 in neutron "[RFE] Prevent DHCP agent from processing stale RPC messages when restarting up" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Kailun Qin (kailun.qin)14:29
mlavallewe requested clarification in this RFE^^^^ and the submitter has responded14:30
mlavalleso please take a look at his responses14:30
mlavalleleave comments if necessary14:30
mlavalleand we can pick it up as the first item in the agenda next week14:30
mlavalledoes that work?14:30
slaweqok, I will read it14:31
mlavalleand with that, haleyb is free to go14:31
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mlavalleI think he left already14:32
mlavallehave a great weekend!14:32
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slaweqhave a good weekend then :)14:33
mlavalle#endmeeting14:33
slaweqmine is almost there :D14:33
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haleybyes, i will be here next friday, and have a good weekend.  dog was barking...14:33
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smcginnis#startmeeting releaseteam15:00
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ttxo/15:00
smcginnisping - ttx dhellmann evrardjp diablo_rojo_phon15:00
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smcginnis#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/stein-relmgt-tracking Agenda15:01
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dhellmanno/15:01
smcginnisAround line 20215:01
evrardjpo/15:02
smcginnis#topic Outstanding Semver patches15:02
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armstrongo/15:02
smcginnis#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+branch:master+topic:sem-ver15:02
dhellmannI added this one15:02
smcginnisdhellmann: Wanted to take it away?15:02
dhellmannmostly I was thinking we should include a reminder in the next weekly update15:02
dhellmannI guess I could have just added that reminder right to the etherpad...15:02
dhellmannI'll do that15:02
smcginnisWorks for me.15:03
dhellmannoh, well, there's no content at all in the r15 etherpad15:03
dhellmannor r16 for that matter15:03
smcginnisI skipped this weeks countdown since there wasn't much and it was a busy week.15:03
smcginnisYeah, I need to get the template in the rest of them I think.15:03
smcginnisIf you want to throw the note in there for now, I can get it formatted and updated with other things.15:04
dhellmannok, I'll work on that15:04
smcginnisSome of those semver patches have had several rechecks and they keep failing from other issues.15:04
smcginnisLiterally no code changes in them, so it should be OK.15:04
evrardjpit should be easy to review, wonder why people are not doing them?15:05
smcginnisdhellmann: Have you heard anything internally at Red Hat about anyone missing those bumps?15:05
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dhellmannI haven't, but can ask15:06
dhellmannI'm not sure where we are in our testing phase right now15:06
smcginnisThat's OK, I just think it's interesting that it hasn't been an issue so far.15:06
evrardjpshould we rebase them so that it shows up on top of the people's list, or ping on the ML?15:06
dhellmannyeah, it's possible the QE team is still dealing with wrapping up rocky, so hasn't done much with the upgrade tests for stein yet15:07
ttxpining would be less of a resource hog15:07
smcginnis++15:07
ttxpinging*15:07
* dhellmann pines for them, too15:07
evrardjplol15:07
smcginnis:)15:07
evrardjpok I will ping a few ppl15:07
fungipining for the fjords?15:08
dhellmannfor the semver patches15:08
smcginnisSo plan is: ping some folks, add mention to next countdown email.15:09
smcginnisI will recheck some of those failing ones too.15:09
dhellmannnotes added to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/stein-email-r1515:10
smcginnisMaybe getting some more +1's on some of them might raise it up in some lists.15:10
smcginnisdhellmann: Thanks!15:10
dhellmannif it's too long, feel free to cut it back15:10
evrardjpI am just commenting who I pinged, it should help on seeing it 'changed' :)15:10
evrardjpwe'll see15:10
fungiin the future, putting the sem-ver footer at the end of the commit message with the other footers is probably safer15:11
smcginnisfungi: Safer?15:11
fungiwell, they're called "footers" because they're all expected to be in the final "paragraph" of the commit message, one-per-line15:11
smcginnisAh, yeah. We did some tests though and verified this works.15:12
smcginnisBut probably good in the future to try to keep it last.15:12
fungimixing them into the middle of the commit message isn't technically correct, though pbr seems to honor it anyway15:12
dhellmanndid we ever update the release machinery to add those automatically when we create the branches?15:12
smcginnisYes, I believe so.15:13
dhellmannok15:13
smcginnisCan't find it right now, but will double check that after the meeting.15:13
smcginnis#topic Release governance tracking15:14
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smcginnisttx: Want to take this one?15:14
ttxyes15:14
ttxI wanted to give a quick update15:14
ttxBeen contacting all teams with corner-cases and processed most of them15:14
ttxWe'll be left with a lost of deliverables that shall be considered "new" and reviewed around milestone-215:15
ttxa list*15:15
smcginnis#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/UChiqxElUV15:15
dhellmannsmcginnis : http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/roles/copy-release-tools-scripts/files/release-tools/add_release_note_page.sh#n48 is the change15:15
ttxjust waiting for answers from Heat, Horizon and Kolla15:16
smcginnisdhellmann: Thanks!15:16
ttxOnce done I'll run the script again and triplecheck15:16
smcginnisLast line too.15:16
ttxWill clean it up and post it too15:16
dhellmannthat's a lot of repos15:17
ttxyeah15:17
ttxWill create a storyboard story to track this work15:18
smcginnisMaybe e0ne is around to take a look at the horizon ones.15:18
e0nettx, I'm sorry for the delay. I'll send you response tonight15:19
smcginnisSo next steps are finalize with those few teams, recheck the data, then post it to the ML?15:20
ttxe0ne: it's fine, not really time-sesntive :)15:20
ttxsmcginnis: https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/200461615:20
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e0nesmcginnis, ttx: we didn't release tempest plugin for rocky because there we no changes15:21
ttxadding tasks right now15:21
smcginnise0ne: I think those shoud still probably be tagged even if it is the same sha as the last one. Just for tracking.15:22
ttxthat is all I needed15:23
smcginnis#topic Moving meeting time15:23
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ttxdiablo_rojo is trying to get involved but current meeting time does not help15:24
ttxI'm free over the next hour15:24
smcginnisSo etherpad says moving one hour later, but I think Tony had posed the question of moving it completely to another day so it isn't Friday night for some.15:24
ttxat least in winter time15:24
fungi7am in her vicinity15:24
e0nesmcginnis: ok, will do it15:24
ttxah, hm, ok. Maybe move to one hour later for now and then discuss moving to another day ?15:25
dhellmannI can move later in the day. I have meetings in that time slot over the next couple of weeks, but I can catch up after until those meetings are done.15:25
smcginnisThanks e0ne!15:25
dhellmannwe talked about tuesday, iirc15:25
smcginnisI think I would rather find a good time slot for all/most rather than moving it around multiple times.15:25
smcginnisThursday would work well as far as finalizing any countdown email content.15:26
ttxhmm Thursday 1600utc is free here15:26
smcginnisBut Tuesday would work too.15:26
ttxTuesday is busier15:26
evrardjpI have conflict in this hour, so I am fine with moving later15:26
smcginnisThat Thursday timeslot would be perfect for me15:26
dhellmannthursday 1600 wfm15:26
* dhellmann wonders if it works for diablo_rojo_phon and tonyb 15:26
smcginnisNot sure if that helps Tony, but it's at least a little later for diablo_rojo_phon15:27
ttxWe likely won't get an answer. Can't be worse at least15:27
dhellmannyeah15:27
smcginnisI can propose a patch to switch it if folks so far think that would be a better time.15:27
ttxack15:28
smcginnisThen we can use the review as a way to see if it works for most.15:28
evrardjpWe can discuss in the patch anyway15:28
dhellmann++15:28
dhellmannwhile we're talking about meeting times...15:28
smcginnis#action smcginnis to propose meeting time change to Thursday 160015:28
dhellmannevrardjp : diablo_rojo_phon and I are meeting this Monday at 1900 UTC to do some onboarding training. You're welcome to join if you like, although I know that's late.15:28
smcginnisOh, great!15:28
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smcginnisJust in the -release channel?15:29
dhellmannwe haven't worked out any details other than the time, so we'll probably start there15:29
ttxhmm, I could try to be around. laptop couch tv setup probably15:29
ttxbut that works15:29
dhellmannI was going to walk through some open reviews with her, like I did with anne15:29
smcginnisI still hope to record some videos to post to Youtube walking through doing some reviews.15:30
smcginnisWould be nice if we had a set of onboarding material to point people to.15:30
armstrong@dhellmann: am also interested for the on-boarding training15:31
evrardjpdhellmann: thanks for the invite :) Will add to agenda15:31
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dhellmanngreat, the more the merrier15:31
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smcginnis#topic Ansible role releases15:31
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smcginnisWho's was this?15:32
dhellmannI just added that one15:32
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dhellmannwe've had a few issues with ansible role releases in the last week because of confusion about which jobs count and where they should be set15:32
evrardjpshould I be scared?15:32
dhellmannsee https://review.openstack.org/616632 for example15:32
dhellmannI just wanted to make sure everyone was aware, since there was travel this week15:33
smcginnisWas this that the release jobs were defined in repo instead of in project-config?15:33
smcginnisSaw some notes, but haven't been tracking.15:33
dhellmannI'm not doing much to drive the fixes, other than trying to correct whatever bad advice they were given15:33
dhellmannso this was more of an informational note for the team than anything15:34
smcginnisDo they have the correct advice now? Or does something need to be figured out here yet?15:35
dhellmannit's not clear that they're accepting my advice15:35
dhellmannmost of that conversation happened on the review15:35
smcginnisMaybe evrardjp can help?15:35
dhellmannthere are 1-2 steps to fixing this15:36
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dhellmann1. move the release job settings back into project-config15:36
dhellmann2. (possibly) update the release validation logic to look for the new release job for that new type of deliverable15:36
dhellmannI don't know what jobs run when an ansible role is released so I don't know what's involved in 215:36
smcginnisAnd "look for the new release job" would be looking in the repo's .zuul.conf?15:36
dhellmannno15:37
dhellmannwe don't want to encourage that by having the release validation look there15:37
smcginnisI didn't think so.15:37
dhellmannit may have a name different from the publish-to-pypi job we use for python packages15:37
dhellmannso it's more like what we have for xstatic or puppet modules, where there's actually a different type of thing that looks for a different project template15:37
dhellmannwe would need to update this data structure: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/releases/tree/openstack_releases/project_config.py#n13815:38
dhellmannand possibly the schema, I don't remember if we validate those values with the schema or in code15:38
evrardjpI am curious of what they actively need -- I will ping on tripleO channel with the content of this conversation15:38
dhellmannthanks, evrardjp15:39
dhellmannit looks like we already support release types that don't have jobs, so if that's the case we just need to add the type15:39
dhellmannthat's all I had on that one15:40
smcginnis#topic Open discussion15:41
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smcginnisAnything else to go over today?15:41
ttxnope15:41
dhellmannnot from me15:41
smcginnisOK, nothing more from me either.15:42
smcginnisThanks everyone for being here.15:42
dhellmanno/15:42
smcginnis#endmeeting15:42
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armstrongThanks15:42
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armstrong@dhellmann: looking forward for the training on Monday15:43
ttxthanks smcginnis !15:43
dhellmannarmstrong : I'll see you there!15:43
fungithanks smcginnis!15:46
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