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| gagehugo | #startmeeting security | 15:04 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 25 15:04:58 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gagehugo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: security)" | 15:05 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'security' | 15:05 |
| * gagehugo totally didn't lose track of time | 15:05 | |
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| gagehugo | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/security-agenda | 15:05 |
| Luzi | o/ | 15:05 |
| gagehugo | ping eeiden fungi gagehugo lhinds nickthetait browne redrobot | 15:06 |
| gagehugo | Luzi: o/ | 15:06 |
| * fungi is triple-booked between board of directors call, tc office hour and this meeting, just to set expectations ;) | 15:06 | |
| gagehugo | probably will be a pretty quick meeting, there was one issue in glance | 15:09 |
| gagehugo | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1799588 | 15:09 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1799588 in OpenStack Security Advisory "non-admin users can see all tenants' images even when image is private" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 15:09 |
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| gagehugo | could be a policy/configuration issue, but not sure | 15:10 |
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| gagehugo | Luzi: Do you have anything? | 15:10 |
| gagehugo | these meetings are usually pretty informal | 15:10 |
| Luzi | yes | 15:10 |
| gagehugo | cool | 15:10 |
| Luzi | you might have already read it on the ml or in some projects irc meetings | 15:10 |
| Luzi | we want to propose Image encryption to openstack | 15:11 |
| Luzi | this is a cross project proposal and should adress the confidentiality of images | 15:11 |
| gagehugo | This thread: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-October/135387.html | 15:12 |
| gagehugo | ?* | 15:12 |
| Luzi | yes | 15:12 |
| Luzi | we have already written specs for nova, cinder and glance | 15:12 |
| gagehugo | do you have links for those on you? | 15:13 |
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| gagehugo | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-October/135387.html | 15:13 |
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| Luzi | Glance: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/609667/ | 15:13 |
| Luzi | Nova: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/608696/ | 15:13 |
| Luzi | Cinder: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/608663/ | 15:13 |
| gagehugo | awesome | 15:14 |
| Luzi | it would be nice to have also input from the security side :) | 15:14 |
| gagehugo | I'll put them on the agenda so I remember to read them later | 15:14 |
| gagehugo | :) | 15:15 |
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| Luzi | thank you, it would be nice to discuss this further maybe next week or in the scurity channel :) | 15:15 |
| gagehugo | Luzi: Sure, yeah I'll try to read them over before next meeting | 15:16 |
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| Luzi | gagehugo, thanks :) | 15:16 |
| gagehugo | fungi: Not to bug you, did you have anything for this week? | 15:17 |
| fungi | nothing really, no | 15:17 |
| fungi | thanks though! | 15:17 |
| gagehugo | ok | 15:17 |
| fungi | just barely keeping up with all the conversations going on at once, sorry | 15:17 |
| gagehugo | fungi: heh | 15:17 |
| gagehugo | I put the links on the security agenda for Luzi's specs | 15:17 |
| gagehugo | otherwise I think we can end early | 15:17 |
| fungi | appreciated! | 15:18 |
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| gagehugo | Luzi fungi thanks for coming! | 15:19 |
| gagehugo | #endmeeting | 15:19 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 25 15:19:45 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:19 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2018/security.2018-10-25-15.04.html | 15:19 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2018/security.2018-10-25-15.04.txt | 15:19 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2018/security.2018-10-25-15.04.log.html | 15:19 |
| fungi | thanks gagehugo! | 15:20 |
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| melwitt | #startmeeting nova | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 25 21:00:08 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is melwitt. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 21:00 |
| melwitt | hi everyone, welcome | 21:00 |
| takashin | o/ | 21:00 |
| mriedem | o/ | 21:01 |
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| edleafe | \o | 21:01 |
| melwitt | let's make a start | 21:01 |
| melwitt | #topic Release News | 21:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Release News (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:02 | |
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| melwitt | #link Stein release schedule: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Stein_Release_Schedule | 21:02 |
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| efried | o/ | 21:02 |
| melwitt | today is milestone 1, so we'll be releasing the first nova beta | 21:02 |
| melwitt | #info Today is s-1 and we'll be proposing releases for master and stable branches today. os-traits and python-novaclient have already been released this week. os-vif release has been proposed earlier this week. | 21:02 |
| melwitt | stable branches don't have to be today, depending on whether we'll want to land specific things before proposing the release | 21:03 |
| melwitt | #link Stein runway etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-runways-stein | 21:03 |
| melwitt | #link runway #1: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/reshape-provider-tree (bauzas/naichuan) [END: 2018-11-08] https://review.openstack.org/599208 and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/521041 | 21:03 |
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| melwitt | only have one runway occupied at the moment | 21:03 |
| efried | eek, /me should really be paying attention to that. /me curses $work | 21:03 |
| efried | btw | 21:04 |
| efried | that shouldn't be marked against bp reshape-provider-tree | 21:04 |
| melwitt | gibi's nested-resource-allocations recently left a runway but review is still needed, so let's keep paying attention to that. and really we should just put it back in the queue since nothing else is in the queue | 21:04 |
| efried | I expressed why in one of the reviews. | 21:04 |
| melwitt | oh, hm | 21:04 |
| efried | We should totally still review it | 21:05 |
| melwitt | where should it go then? is it part of the catch-all for NRP? | 21:05 |
| efried | It's a vgpu thing. | 21:05 |
| efried | It should be in the same bp as the rest of the xen vgpu stuff. | 21:05 |
| melwitt | ok, I'll take a look | 21:05 |
| mriedem | well, you could argue that for the libvirt change as well then | 21:05 |
| efried | Yes | 21:05 |
| mriedem | (1) reshape to put vgpu inventory on child provider, | 21:05 |
| mriedem | (2) add support for multiple vgpu types | 21:05 |
| mriedem | the former is the reshape bp, the latter is the vgpu-stein bp | 21:06 |
| efried | And every other blueprint ever in the future that makes use of reshape to satisfy some upgrade scenario related to some feature. | 21:06 |
| mriedem | we only need to reshape vgpu right now | 21:06 |
| mriedem | i think that was the target for that bp | 21:06 |
| mriedem | stuff like pcpu/vcpu would be part of a different spec imo | 21:06 |
| efried | we're not going to pick out some patch in the middle of a bp series in the X release and retroactively mark it against the reshape bp. So we shouldn't do that here either. | 21:07 |
| efried | was my reasoning. | 21:07 |
| mriedem | the reshape bp is targeted to stein you know | 21:07 |
| mriedem | do you consider it done? | 21:07 |
| mriedem | if not, what gets to done? | 21:07 |
| efried | FFU script, I think is the only remaining item. | 21:07 |
| efried | which I suppose in the scope of the bp is just framework | 21:08 |
| efried | and then the feature bps add "plugins" or whatever you want to call them | 21:08 |
| mriedem | so FFU before any driver actually does a reshape? | 21:08 |
| efried | no, I'm not saying that. | 21:08 |
| efried | I'm not saying closing the reshaper bp is a prereq to any other bp that's dependent on it. | 21:09 |
| efried | This can't be the first time a bp depends on a subset of another bp | 21:09 |
| efried | but actually | 21:09 |
| efried | yes, come to think of it, we need to have the ffu script before we can declare the deps complete in this case. | 21:10 |
| efried | because otherwise we can't ffu to stein with those features in place. | 21:10 |
| efried | right? | 21:10 |
| mriedem | well, if you ran it before the drivers did their thing, it wouldn't do anything | 21:10 |
| mriedem | i guess in my mind the FFU change would come after b/c that's what happened with the ironic flavors stuff, | 21:11 |
| efried | Yup, the placement API endpoint also doesn't do anything until you use it. | 21:11 |
| mriedem | but that might not be the best example to follow | 21:11 |
| mriedem | anyway, this probably doesn't really matter besides paperwork | 21:11 |
| efried | was gonna say, we don't need to take up everyone's time. | 21:11 |
| melwitt | so, is the current targeted bp fine then? or are we gonna talk about this more later and let someone know to change the target? | 21:12 |
| efried | I will bully mriedem into changing the topic back later. | 21:12 |
| melwitt | ok, cool. | 21:12 |
| efried | All of it is still targeted for stein until/unless something changes. | 21:12 |
| efried | so as matt says, just paperwork | 21:12 |
| melwitt | I just put nested-allocation-candidates back in a runway. last patch from the previous runway is -W so I strikethrough'd it as a note | 21:13 |
| melwitt | ok | 21:13 |
| melwitt | anything else for release news or runways? | 21:13 |
| melwitt | #topic Bugs (stuck/critical) | 21:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (stuck/critical) (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:14 | |
| melwitt | no critical bugs in the link | 21:14 |
| melwitt | #link 51 new untriaged bugs (up 1 since the last meeting): https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New | 21:14 |
| melwitt | #link 9 untagged untriaged bugs (up 1 since the last meeting): https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=-*&field.status%3Alist=NEW | 21:14 |
| melwitt | #link bug triage how-to: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/BugTriage#Tags | 21:14 |
| melwitt | #help need help with bug triage | 21:14 |
| melwitt | Gate status | 21:15 |
| melwitt | #link check queue gate status http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/index.html | 21:15 |
| melwitt | I think there was a zuul restart earlier in the morning, so things might need rechecking from that | 21:15 |
| melwitt | 3rd party CI | 21:15 |
| melwitt | #link 3rd party CI status http://ci-watch.tintri.com/project?project=nova&time=7+days | 21:16 |
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| melwitt | anything else for bugs, gate status, or third party CI? | 21:16 |
| melwitt | #topic Reminders | 21:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Reminders (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:16 | |
| melwitt | #link Stein Subteam Patches n Bugs: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/stein-nova-subteam-tracking | 21:16 |
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| melwitt | I started using the trivial bug section of this etherpad again ^ | 21:17 |
| melwitt | #link Create etherpads for Forum sessions: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Forum/Berlin2018 | 21:18 |
| melwitt | create your etherpads if you haven't already | 21:18 |
| melwitt | anything else for reminders? | 21:18 |
| melwitt | #topic Stable branch status | 21:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stable branch status (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:18 | |
| * efried ist noch nicht approbiert | 21:18 | |
| melwitt | #link stable/rocky: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/rocky,n,z | 21:19 |
| melwitt | mriedem has a note here that we need to do a stable/rocky release | 21:19 |
| melwitt | I agree | 21:20 |
| melwitt | as for whether we should wait for https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bug/1798188 I'm biased but I think we should. it would be nice to get the status check and release note out | 21:20 |
| melwitt | that one is about extra instruction needed to handle nova-consoleauth during a rolling upgrade from queens => rocky | 21:21 |
| mriedem | probably | 21:21 |
| mriedem | need another core | 21:21 |
| mriedem | to sign up | 21:21 |
| melwitt | and a status check to help with communication | 21:21 |
| melwitt | any other opinions? | 21:22 |
| melwitt | I know there's only a few of us here | 21:22 |
| melwitt | I'll try to get another core tomorrow morning when more people are around | 21:22 |
| melwitt | ok, moving on I guess | 21:23 |
| melwitt | #link stable/queens: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/queens,n,z | 21:23 |
| melwitt | lots o backports | 21:23 |
| melwitt | #link stable/pike: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/pike,n,z | 21:23 |
| melwitt | #link stable/ocata: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/ocata,n,z | 21:23 |
| melwitt | oh | 21:24 |
| melwitt | I was about to say, I wasn't sure if I should keep including ocata | 21:24 |
| mriedem | probably don't need to | 21:24 |
| melwitt | ok | 21:24 |
| melwitt | #info let me know if there are any other stable branch backports you want to get in before we cut stable releases for s-1 | 21:25 |
| melwitt | anything else for stable branch status? | 21:25 |
| melwitt | #topic Subteam Highlights | 21:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Subteam Highlights (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:25 | |
| melwitt | efried: scheduler? | 21:26 |
| efried | #link n-sch meeting minutes http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2018/nova_scheduler.2018-10-22-14.00.html | 21:26 |
| efried | I promised a spec extracting the file format from | 21:26 |
| efried | #link kosamara's device-placement-passthrough spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/591037/ | 21:26 |
| efried | while also incorporating some of the tenets of | 21:26 |
| efried | #link jaypipes's Rocky provider-config-file proposal: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/550244/ | 21:26 |
| efried | That has since happened: | 21:26 |
| efried | #link Spec: Provider config YAML file https://review.openstack.org/#/c/612497/ | 21:26 |
| efried | Discussed nrp series which was until recently based at | 21:26 |
| efried | #link previous bottom of nrp-in-nova series https://review.openstack.org/#/c/606050/ | 21:26 |
| efried | mriedem had asked for that to be rebased on | 21:26 |
| efried | #link removal of caching scheduler https://review.openstack.org/#/c/611723/ | 21:26 |
| efried | That has since happened, and both have merged, along with some other cleanup. | 21:26 |
| efried | Extraction-wise, cdent proposed the possibility of merging | 21:26 |
| efried | #link stub table creator https://review.openstack.org/#/c/600161/ | 21:26 |
| efried | temporarily, but we decided to give alembic stuff a chance to mature for a bit. | 21:26 |
| efried | Also extraction-related, we talked about putting some focus on docs in the placement repo. We pressured^wconvinced tetsuro to take on some of the editing work while we figure out what's needed to get the docs actually building. He has since proposed a couple of patches in that vein: | 21:27 |
| efried | #link De-nova-ify doc/README.rst (merged) https://review.openstack.org/612665 | 21:27 |
| efried | #link De-nova-ify doc/source/index.rst https://review.openstack.org/613200 | 21:27 |
| efried | And cdent is getting us moving toward | 21:27 |
| efried | #link Making tox -ereleasenotes work https://review.openstack.org/613118 | 21:27 |
| efried | We agreed to start | 21:27 |
| efried | #link a new placement-extract etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/placement-extract-stein-4 | 21:27 |
| efried | Concern was expressed about backporting | 21:27 |
| efried | #link update less in rt https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1729621 | 21:27 |
| efried | given that the related 0.0 allocation ratio fix came later. | 21:27 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1729621 in OpenStack Compute (nova) pike "Inconsistent value for vcpu_used" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Radoslav Gerganov (rgerganov) | 21:27 |
| efried | END | 21:27 |
| mriedem | i've also sent an email to the tripleo and osa teams today, | 21:28 |
| mriedem | needing someone to start working on the upgrade work in those projects | 21:28 |
| mriedem | the grenade patch is ready to go | 21:28 |
| efried | #link mriedem email soliciting osa/tripleo help for extraction http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-October/136075.html | 21:28 |
| melwitt | thanks, was looking for the link and failing | 21:28 |
| melwitt | on that bug, https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1729621 I don't quite understand the backport question? | 21:29 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1729621 in OpenStack Compute (nova) pike "Inconsistent value for vcpu_used" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Radoslav Gerganov (rgerganov) | 21:29 |
| efried | mriedem: that's you. I have only a vague sense of what's going on here, would need to go refresh my memory on all that mess. | 21:30 |
| mriedem | remember when the xenapi CI started posting 0 allocation_ratios | 21:30 |
| mriedem | ? | 21:30 |
| melwitt | yes | 21:30 |
| mriedem | it's related to that | 21:30 |
| mriedem | we think that regression was somehow caused by the thing that rgerganov is trying to backport | 21:30 |
| melwitt | ok, I see. so for queens and earlier we'd need that fix first | 21:31 |
| efried | for reference, here's what mriedem said at the time, including a link to code: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2018/nova_scheduler.2018-10-22-14.00.log.html#l-125 | 21:31 |
| mriedem | so i said i'm nervous about that, and we should at least make sure those changes go together | 21:31 |
| melwitt | ok, got it | 21:31 |
| melwitt | alright, so we know how to move forward there. cool | 21:32 |
| melwitt | gmann left a note for the api subteam "No API office hour this week, Not much to share." | 21:32 |
| melwitt | #topic Stuck Reviews | 21:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stuck Reviews (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:32 | |
| melwitt | nothing on the agenda. anyone in the room have a stuck review to bring up? | 21:32 |
| melwitt | ok | 21:33 |
| melwitt | #topic Open discussion | 21:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:33 | |
| melwitt | few items on the agenda | 21:33 |
| melwitt | first one | 21:33 |
| melwitt | (mriedem): Do we need a specless blueprint to add a config option to run nova-metadata-api per-cell? There was agreement to add this at the PTG (L412 https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-ptg-stein ) | 21:33 |
| mriedem | i just don't know how anyone wants that tracked, | 21:33 |
| mriedem | i think the change is simply add a config option which if true means the meta-api won't look at the API DB for anything, like instance mappings, and assume everything is local to the cell db | 21:34 |
| mriedem | you can, and cern already does, run meta-api per-cell but configured to the api db | 21:34 |
| mriedem | even though they are just needlessly querying up to the api to find out the instance is in the cell the yare in | 21:34 |
| melwitt | ah, ok | 21:34 |
| melwitt | I think I'd err on the side of specless bp since it's a new config option | 21:35 |
| mriedem | ok | 21:35 |
| melwitt | any other opinions? | 21:35 |
| efried | surely should have a bp; is the question whether to have a spec? | 21:36 |
| mriedem | i don't think it needs a spec | 21:36 |
| mriedem | and no that wasn't the questoin | 21:36 |
| mriedem | question was is a specless bp needed | 21:36 |
| efried | Okay. | 21:36 |
| efried | Yes, IMO. | 21:36 |
| mriedem | wfm | 21:36 |
| efried | For a new config option. | 21:36 |
| mriedem | i just forgot about this for awhile b/c it wasn't being tracked, | 21:37 |
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| mriedem | so i wanted to know how to track it | 21:37 |
| efried | looks like you answered your own question. | 21:37 |
| mriedem | just looking for validation | 21:37 |
| efried | "Gee, this thing isn't tracked, how should we track it? By tracking it? Cool." | 21:37 |
| efried | :P | 21:37 |
| melwitt | fair enough to ask if it needs a spec though. I think since this is very straightforward, specless is good. and better than not tracking it | 21:37 |
| melwitt | this is just saying "don't waste api db calls on something configured to run local that doesn't need api db calls" | 21:38 |
| efried | yuh, was going to say: if we can fit all the words in the bp template, and the spec template sections would be largely "None", no spec. | 21:38 |
| melwitt | right | 21:38 |
| melwitt | ok, next item | 21:38 |
| melwitt | (mriedem): Has anyone made a list of the various cross-project Forum sessions that should include nova participation and determined that we'll have a representative? | 21:38 |
| melwitt | this is a good question. I think the answer is no | 21:39 |
| melwitt | I know that for the change instance ownership session, that's during the nova project update so I can't go to that | 21:39 |
| mriedem | i expect dansmith will be at that | 21:39 |
| mriedem | since he wrote os-chown | 21:39 |
| mriedem | but, | 21:39 |
| melwitt | right | 21:39 |
| mriedem | idk | 21:39 |
| dansmith | I've said I would already yeah | 21:40 |
| mriedem | so it would be good to have an etherpad of the obvious xp sessions and make sure we have reps | 21:40 |
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| melwitt | yeah, so I think last time I made a list of forum sessions of interest to send to the ML. and I should do that again | 21:40 |
| melwitt | and yeah, etherpad, I can do that. can probably use our existing forum etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-forum-stein | 21:40 |
| melwitt | and give a heads up to the ML about it after adding cross-project sessions of interest | 21:41 |
| efried | ++ | 21:41 |
| melwitt | thanks for bringing that up mriedem | 21:41 |
| melwitt | ok, last item is from me, a shout out for sundar | 21:41 |
| melwitt | (melwitt): The cyborg-nova interaction spec has been updated in response to review comments and is ready for review again: https://review.openstack.org/603955 | 21:41 |
| * efried <== still in the middle of it | 21:41 | |
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| melwitt | yeah, I figured. just an fyi that he's eagerly awaiting everyone's review :) | 21:42 |
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| melwitt | ok, that's all in the agenda for open discussion. anyone have anything else they'd like to discuss? | 21:42 |
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| efried | This guy writes good docs. But has a tendency to be... garrulous | 21:43 |
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| * melwitt googles | 21:43 | |
| melwitt | verbose, yes | 21:43 |
| melwitt | :) | 21:43 |
| melwitt | ok, if no one has anything else, we can call it a wrap | 21:43 |
| melwitt | thanks everyone | 21:43 |
| melwitt | #endmeeting | 21:43 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 21:43 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 25 21:43:57 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:43 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2018/nova.2018-10-25-21.00.html | 21:44 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2018/nova.2018-10-25-21.00.txt | 21:44 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2018/nova.2018-10-25-21.00.log.html | 21:44 |
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| mriedem | melwitt: efried: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/run-meta-api-per-cell | 21:44 |
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