Friday, 2018-01-19

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ekcs#startmeeting congressteammeeting02:32
openstackMeeting started Fri Jan 19 02:32:07 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ekcs. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.02:32
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.02:32
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ekcshi all02:32
masahitohi02:33
ekcshi masahito !02:33
ekcsfor today. the only thing I have planned is to talk about anything that’s needed to wrap up queens-3. cuz release will be done before next meeting.02:34
ekcsanything else people want to talk about please add it to the topics =)02:34
ekcshttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/congress-meeting-topics02:34
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ekcslooks like we don’t have much to talk about among those of us who are here haha. maybe we’ll end meeting and continue in other channels later as needed.02:44
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masahitoekcs: just a question for PTG.02:46
ekcsyup02:46
masahitoIIRC, we'll have virtual meetup for Rocky PTG, won't it?02:46
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ekcsmasahito: yea I think that’s probably best. I’ll still be at the PTG and it’d be great to find some time for unofficial discussions if you’re available.02:51
masahitoGot it.  It's okay for me. I'll be there Monday to Thursday.02:52
ekcseither way I don’t plan to have official sessions in ireland, based on seeing people’s interest and availablility. will send email to update on that.02:52
ekcsgreat!02:52
ekcsok let’s end meeting then if nothing else we need to talk about now.02:53
ekcsgeneric push driver is up for review btw.02:53
ekcshttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/535009/02:53
patchbotpatch 535009 - congress - generic push driver02:53
ekcsok talk to people later over irc/email as needed. have a great weekend all!02:54
ekcsbye masahito02:54
ekcs#endmeeting02:54
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petterpancni got a error:'horizon' is not a registered tag library. Must be one of:08:13
petterpancnanyone encounter its err?08:13
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petterpancni got a error:'horizon' is not a registered tag library. Must be one of:08:17
petterpancnanyone encounter its err?08:17
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mlavalle#startmeeting neutron_drivers14:00
openstackMeeting started Fri Jan 19 14:00:12 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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yamamotohi14:00
mlavallehey yamamoto. how are you?14:00
yamamotoi'm fine14:00
mlavalleare you going to Dublin?14:01
yamamotoyes14:01
mlavalle\o/14:01
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haleybo/14:01
mlavallehey haleyb14:01
haleybhey mlavalle, i'm ready for work :)14:02
mlavallelet's wait 1 minute for amotoki14:02
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ihrachyso/ sorry for being late14:04
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mlavalleihrachys: no problem14:05
mlavallenice to see you14:05
mlavallewe have quorum now14:05
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mlavalleFirst one for today is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/170141314:06
openstackLaunchpad bug 1701413 in neutron "Vpnaas VPN ikepolicy does not support aggressive mode" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to zhichao zhu (rtmdk)14:06
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ihrachysmlavalle, seems straightforward though I admit I don't grasp all intricacies of those modes.14:08
ihrachysas long as it has a flag extension to discover the feature, it should be fine.14:08
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mlavalleyeah, if I understand correctly is an API change, right?14:09
yamamotoit allows a new value for the existing field14:09
yamamotoso API change, yes14:09
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mlavalleso yeah, as long as it is discoverable, I think it is fine14:10
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mlavalleso I am + for it14:10
mlavallehow about the otheres?14:10
mlavalleothers14:11
yamamotoi think it's fine14:11
mlavallecool14:11
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ihrachysI am fine with it14:11
mlavalleI am going to indicate in the RFE the need for this to be discoverable as an API extension14:11
mlavalleDone14:13
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mlavalleNext one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/171538614:13
openstackLaunchpad bug 1715386 in neutron "[RFE]Support routing traffic based on subnet" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to zhaobo (zhaobo6)14:13
mlavalleI have to confess that I didn't have time to read the latest revision of the spec14:14
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ihrachyssame here. maybe we should take it as homework again and discuss the next time.14:15
yamamotoand/or discuss on gerrit14:16
mlavalleihrachys: agree. I'll read it at the end of this meeting and leave my comments14:16
mlavalleNext one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/171756014:17
openstackLaunchpad bug 1717560 in neutron "[RFE] allow to have no default route in DHCP host routes" [Wishlist,Triaged]14:17
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mlavalleProgress was made on this one over the past couple of weeks14:18
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ihrachysseems like we can achieve that without api change14:20
haleyband just fix a but in how we build the opts file14:20
haleybs/but/bug14:20
ihrachysif that's the case, it's great. plugins may need to adopt to whatever test case we come up with for the 'feature' but since api layer already allows empty value, it can be looked at as a bug.14:21
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mlavallewould it need adjustment to the client as well?14:22
mlavalle"we'll have to be careful as whether to do that only when the option is None and not when it is an empty string"14:22
ihrachysI don't think anything is needed. looks like Thomas could easily create the option with existing clients.14:23
ihrachysnot sure how you can pass None via json14:23
haleybdoes None vs '' just need clarification in the api?14:24
ihrachysoh I guess it's null14:24
ihrachysI would expect None to behave the same way as empty in this case14:24
mlavalleIn reading what he wrote, I thought he had edited the dnsmasq opts file manually, but I might be wrong14:24
haleybmlavalle: he had to edit to fix the trailing comma14:25
ihrachysno I mean on api side, he was able to create the option14:25
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mlavalleyeah14:25
ihrachyswhich then triggered the bug in dnsmasq code, that he worked around by editing14:25
mlavalleok14:25
mlavalleso I am going to ask the question in the RFE if fixing that piece of code would be sufficient and based on the answer convert this to a bug14:27
mlavallemakes sense?14:27
yamamotoyes14:27
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ihrachysyes14:28
mlavalleDone14:29
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mlavalleNext one for today is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/172072714:29
openstackLaunchpad bug 1720727 in neutron "[RFE] (Operator-only) Extend logging feature to support for FWaaS v2" [Wishlist,Triaged]14:29
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ihrachysso it's a new resource_type?14:31
yamamotoyes14:32
yamamotoi wonder what's the status of fwaas v214:32
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yamamotoie. if it's ready to add extra features14:32
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ihrachysyeah, at the end of the day we should seek their guidance on this one14:33
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mlavalleDuring the Neutron meeting this week, xgerman said FWaaS V2 is ready for Queens14:33
mlavallebut yeah, we should get their input on this one14:34
mlavalleI can take the action item to talk to Sridark and Xgerman and get them to provide input in the RFE14:34
ihrachysI would imagine fwaasv2 has multiple resources. a bit of clarification on what's the expected expansion of api would help to judge.14:34
ihrachysas it stands, the RFE is not too informative14:34
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mlavalleagree14:35
mlavalleand get input from the FWaaS team14:35
mlavalle#action mlavalle to ask FWaaS team to provide input on this RFE14:35
mlavalleMakes sense?14:36
yamamotothe implementation might be tricky as fwaas is "out of tree" and log plugin is in tree. maybe it needs some kind of registration api like quotas?14:36
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mlavallegood point14:36
ihrachysyamamoto, at the end of the day, it's just a logging resource that you can fetch from db / get via rpc ...14:36
ihrachysas long as resource_type allows the new value, it should work without registration no?14:37
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yamamotoit might be.14:37
mlavalleI think that will be the case as well14:38
ihrachysI think we can handle that either way. let's reach out to fwaas / clarify the proposal first.14:38
yamamotoi suppose sometimes logging resource changes need to propagate to fwaas right?14:38
mlavalleBut this is something we can get clarified with additional detail in the RFE14:38
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yamamotosure14:39
mlavalleI will request further detail in the RFE along these lines14:40
ihrachysyamamoto, we have callbacks to propagate14:40
mlavalleok, let's seek further input as mentioned above14:41
yamamotoihrachys: right. but i suspect it involves something more, given the structure of the current logapi drivers14:42
mlavalleand we reached the end of our list for today14:42
ihrachysmlavalle, nothing to discuss?14:43
mlavalleI don't have anythin else to discuss today14:43
yamamotoa sec14:43
mlavalledo folks have things to bring up to the team?14:44
yamamotowhat to do for this?  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/528189/14:44
patchbotpatch 528189 - neutron - Introduce rfe-confirmed and rfe-triaged tags14:44
mlavalleI am for W+ it14:45
mlavallewhat do you think ihrachys?14:45
ihrachysI haven't read the proposal but yes, gerrit sucks so it makes sense on first sight14:45
ihrachysI will review it after the meeting14:45
ihrachysmaybe I can +w it after I read it through14:46
mlavalleihrachys: if you are ok with it, please just W+ it14:46
ihrachysok14:46
mlavallethanks yamamoto for working on it14:46
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yamamotonp. it was for my own convenience.14:47
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mlavalleit is for the convinience of the entire team :-)14:47
mlavalleOk team, have a very nice weekend!14:47
mlavalle#endmeeting14:48
ihrachysyeah fellas!14:48
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smcginnis#startmeeting releaseteam15:00
openstackMeeting started Fri Jan 19 15:00:06 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is smcginnis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
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smcginnisping dhellmann, dims, fungi, tonyb, lbragstad, ttx15:00
smcginnisarmstrong: Want to add your nick to the ping list here? https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/queens-relmgt-tracking15:00
lbragstado/15:00
smcginnisMorning lbragstad. Warming up there yet?15:01
lbragstadnot too bad15:01
lbragstadnice enough to get out of the house and go do stuff :)15:01
armstrong@smcginnis: Yes I want to15:01
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smcginnislbragstad: Same here. It's no longer painful to step out of the house. :)15:01
fungii can finally see some of my driveway once again15:01
smcginnisfungi: Oh right, you guys got hit, didn't you?15:02
fungisecond time in as many weeks15:02
smcginnisJust going to wait one more minute to see if ttx is around.15:03
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smcginnisOK, we are currentl at R-6 (line 224) in the tracking etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/queens-relmgt-tracking15:04
smcginnis#topic Task report15:04
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smcginnisI think this was added by Thierry.15:04
smcginnisI will follow up and see what's left to do with the ceilometer-powervm note.15:05
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smcginnisI am not aware of any other immediately pressing items, other than normal activities at this point in the cycle.15:05
smcginnisAnyone have any tasks in progress that we should all be aware of?15:06
ttxoops15:06
ttxsorry for lateness15:06
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ttxmanagery-stuff15:06
smcginnisHey ttx.15:06
ttxYes, so task report15:06
smcginnis"managery-stuff" == cake coma wearing off? :)15:06
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ttxJust wanted to flag an oddness15:07
ttxThe script that updates -release-branch group membership expects to be named $projectteamname-release-branch15:07
ttxin the case of ceilometer-powervm that is Telemetry15:07
ttxso it tries to update Telemetry-release-branch group15:08
ttxErr15:08
ttxI mean it tires to add Telemetry-release to Telemetry-release-branch15:08
ttxBut Telemetry-release doesn't exist. Only ceilometer-powervm-release15:09
fungican we just fix their acl and rename the group?15:09
smcginnisSo worth adding special handling to the script, or just expect the failure and manually follow up?15:09
ttxThat are teh 3 options yes15:09
ttx1 Fix ACLs/group names15:09
ttx2 Adding special handling in script15:09
ttx3 Expect failure and manually followup15:10
smcginnisFor consistency, I like 1.15:10
ttxI did (30 this time around15:10
ttx(3)15:10
funginote that a group rename takes a little care, but can be done without gerrit downtime (though it does need a gerrit admin to assist)15:10
smcginnisAny other gotchas to be aware of with renaming?15:10
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ttxI mean, it's not urgent, just wanted to flag it before I forget about it15:10
ttxso that we can add it to some future plan15:11
ttxI think one issue here is that it's really a ceilometer-powervm specific group15:11
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smcginnisttx: Want to add a note to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/rocky-relmgt-plan while it's fresh in your mind?15:11
ttxsmcginnis: sounds good15:11
fungino real gotchas, process is pretty simple but have to take precautions to avoid racing our manage-projects script since it will create any groups referenced in an acl if they don't exist yet15:11
fungiso basically stage the acl patch, pause configuration management, approve the patch and wait for it to merge, run a gerrit api command to rename the group itself, then unpause configuration management15:12
smcginnisAnd the telemetry team would just need to be aware of the new group name for any future modifications, right?15:13
fungiyeah, though honestly they likely won't notice since the group id number and stable url for it remain unchanged15:13
smcginnisDoesn't sound too painful.15:14
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ttxalso they likely don't care/ powervm is the only thing using that group (only thing using milestone-driven in Telemetry)15:15
fungihowever we've also got a project rename we need to schedule soon, so maybe it makes more sense to just roll the group rename into that15:15
smcginnisOK, added those notes to the etherpad so we don't need to try to remember all that.15:15
ttxhmm /me looks up ceilometer15:15
smcginnisfungi: Oh good, that would be a safe opportunity to change it.15:15
ttxyeah, switched to intermediary15:16
fungiit's just eth one group which needs this? ceilometer-powervm-release -> telemetry-release?15:16
fungier, the one group15:16
ttxTelemetry-release yes15:16
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ttxwith a capital T15:17
fungioh, weird. why is that one capitalized?15:17
smcginnisIt's a special snowflake. :)15:17
ttxThe script uses the project team name as in projects.yaml15:18
ttxand yes it's the only capitalized team name using milestone-driven deliverables15:18
fungibut, like, nova-release isn't capitalized even though projects.yaml says their team name is Nova15:18
ttxhmmm15:18
fungior is that not the case?15:18
ttxMAYBE it's case-insensitive search15:18
smcginnisAh, and nova already exists, so it doesn't make a difference?15:19
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ttxLike when you search for Nova-release it returns existing nova-release15:19
ttxwouldn't surprise me at all.15:19
smcginnisttx: Just for reference, which is the script in question?15:20
fungioh, i think i see what you're saying. the top-level keys in reference/projects.yaml being capitalized or not15:20
ttxaclmanager15:20
ttxfungi: yes15:20
smcginnisok15:20
fungiand yeah, "nova" is the key for the nova team's entry in projects.yaml15:20
fungilower-case15:20
fungiokay15:20
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ttxit's basically the only team that is not named after its only deliverable15:21
ttxso it obviously triggers edge cases15:21
fungii find the case mixing in that file strange, but i'll refrain from letting it overwhelm my ocd tendencies15:21
smcginnis:)15:22
smcginnisfungi: Do you know when that rename is scheduled?15:22
fungismcginnis: we haven't set the schedule yet. still trying to work out the new project rename process with zuulv315:22
fungidistributed job configuration means potentially more places to update repository name references15:23
smcginnisfungi: OK. We'll have to keep this in mind when that comes up then.15:23
smcginnisAny more on this topic?15:23
ttxnope15:24
smcginnis#action team to try to coordinate with project name restarts to fix acl and group name for ceilometer-powervm15:24
smcginnis#topic Pike-3/FF tunnel coming up15:24
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smcginnis#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/queens-relmgt-plan Planned tasks15:24
ttxI added that one too -- I think it's a good time to check how much we'll defer to R15:25
smcginnisSo yeah, I thought I had taken care of most of mine, but when I started updating for rocky I realized there were several things in there I overlooked.15:25
smcginnisI think there may be a few things that we've just taken care of without noting there, but I noticed a few things that definitely still require some action.15:25
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* ttx updates a couple things15:27
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ttxSo the only thing I missed was "TODO Support storyboard in openstack/releases (ttx)"15:27
ttxI don't expect to close it in the coming weeks15:27
smcginnisSo I guess action for all of us - please look through the list again and see what can be done with anything with your name on it.15:27
ttxI have a bit of backlog on my coding time15:28
fungii saw some patches go by related to that, i thought15:28
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fungithough i didn't recognize the submitter's name15:28
smcginnisThere's a patch out there now, but it has a -1.15:28
fungiahh15:28
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ttxso yeah, check what you can still complete before we go too deep in release mode15:29
ttxand mark the others as DEFER15:29
smcginnis#action team to review tasks in planning etherpad15:30
fungiplanning to do the rocky cycle release signing key while at the ptg15:30
fungisince it's a good task to involve other infra people on15:30
smcginnisI've copied over everything to the rocky planning etherpad, but will re-sync that with wherever we end up by the end of the cycle.15:30
smcginnisfungi: ++15:30
smcginnis#topic Review FF week actions in PROCESS15:31
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smcginnis#link http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/releases/tree/PROCESS.rst15:31
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ttxSo I won't have a lot of time mnext week, just wanted to check that you guys have the process udner control for next week15:31
ttxdid we finish all the pre-M3 tasks ?15:32
ttxthis week was the lib freeze I see15:33
ttxwas the step on line 150 done ?15:33
smcginnisJust looking at that. No.15:33
smcginnisI will do that after the meeting.15:33
smcginnis#action smcginnis to propose feature list update to devstack-gate15:34
ttxdid we have any "final release15:34
ttx"15:34
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ttxsince we are supposed to ensure they come with a stable branch request15:34
ttxI suspect we did not, since the new branch name would have likely failed tests :)15:35
smcginnisI was looking for that, but will be honest I may have forgotten on a couple.15:35
smcginnisHmm, no. Guess I'll need to revisit that.15:36
ttxIt looks like there is no step to create stable/queens for everyone15:36
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smcginnisIIRC, don't we have a script that will do that too?15:36
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ttxyes I think we do, it just doesn't appear here15:37
ttxprobably something to catch up with dhellmann on Monday15:37
smcginnispropopse_library_branches.py in openstack_releases/cmds it appears.15:37
smcginnisack15:37
ttxas we should probably run that after the patches from line 150 are done15:37
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smcginnisOK, I'll get 150 taken care of today, then Monday will follow up to make sure the branching is done.15:38
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ttxLine 165 will be fun15:38
* smcginnis is afraid to look15:38
ttxotherwise FF week doesn't have that many more tasks than FF-1 week15:39
smcginnisWe should be in good shape.15:40
ttxsmcginnis: ok15:40
smcginnis#topic Rocky PTL15:40
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ttxsmcginnis: you're running again right15:40
smcginnisI feel like I'm just starting to get into things, so I'm fine going another cycle unless someone wants to boot me.15:40
ttxWe do one-year PTLships around here15:40
smcginnis:)15:40
smcginnisWorks for me.15:41
ttxok, next topic :)15:41
fungiin preparation for the year-long release cycle? ;)15:41
smcginnisDarn, I suppose I still need to think of something to write up.15:41
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ttxbeen toying with the idea of 9-month cycles lately15:41
ttx:)15:41
smcginnisThere is something nice about cycles fitting within year blocks, but I don't want to go down that path right now. ;)15:42
smcginnis#topic PTG track assignment15:42
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ttxSo I posted the proposed layout15:42
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ttxRelMgt is one of the "orange" teams15:42
fungiseems dangerous in dublin15:42
ttxmeaning we are encouraged to schedule ourselves when we happen to be available and free15:42
ttxfungi: nice15:43
smcginnis#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-January/126335.html15:43
ttxI think that's a great thing for us, matches how we did it in Denver15:43
ttxand avoids uselessly booking space15:43
smcginnisYeah, that seemed to work well.15:43
smcginnisAnd we all have so many other things going on, it was nice having the flexibility.15:43
ttxNote that we can also schedule MORE than 0.5 days if we need extra time15:43
smcginnisStill way too many times I needed to be in more than one place.15:44
ttxor LESS15:44
fungisure, just grab me if/when you need me though i expect to be split at least 4 ways most of the week15:44
ttxthat is all15:44
smcginnisGood plan. Looking forward to seeing everyone in Dublin again.15:44
ttxsmcginnis: shall we post a PTG prep  etherpad15:44
smcginnisttx: Yeah, that wouldn't hurt. I'll take another action.15:45
smcginnis#action smcginnis to add relmgt PTG etherpad15:45
smcginnisOK, anything else?15:45
smcginnis#topic Open discussion15:45
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smcginnisI started next weeks email draft, but I still need to work on it.15:46
ttxnope15:46
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smcginnisIf there's anything else anyone wants to add there, feel free: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/queens-email-r415:46
smcginnisOK, otherwise, I guess we can wrap for today.15:46
smcginnisThanks everyone.15:46
ttxsmcginnis: thanks !15:46
lbragstado/15:46
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