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| eumel8 | hello | 12:59 |
| eumel8 | anyone there for I18n team meeting? | 13:00 |
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| jpich | hello | 13:07 |
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| ianychoi_phone | Hello! | 13:09 |
| jftalta | Hi ! | 13:09 |
| ianychoi_phone | Hi jftalta jpich ! | 13:09 |
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| eumel8 | mmpf, so many people there... | 13:12 |
| jftalta | Hi eumel8 ! | 13:12 |
| eumel8 | I've just closing the office ;) | 13:12 |
| eumel8 | Hi | 13:12 |
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| ianychoi_phone | Hi eumel8 :) | 13:13 |
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| eumel8 | We'll get a bad weather front and I want to switch at home. | 13:13 |
| jpich | Stay safe | 13:14 |
| ianychoi_phone | How does it take from your office to your home? | 13:14 |
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| eumel8 | Can we make the team meeting at 14:00 UTC in i18n room? If you have time | 13:15 |
| jftalta | ok for me | 13:15 |
| jpich | Sure! | 13:15 |
| eumel8 | ianychoi: 45~60 min | 13:15 |
| ianychoi_phone | Okay also for me | 13:15 |
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| eumel8 | thx, see you soon ;) | 13:16 |
| jpich | :) | 13:16 |
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| jftalta | see you in i18n room around 2 utc | 13:16 |
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| ianychoi_phone | :) see all soon! | 13:16 |
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| andreaf | #startmeeting qa | 17:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 18 17:01:15 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is andreaf. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: qa)" | 17:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'qa' | 17:01 |
| andreaf | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/QATeamMeeting#Agenda_for_Jan_118h_2018_.281700_UTC.29 Today's agenda | 17:01 |
| andreaf | o/ who's around for the meeting today? | 17:01 |
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| andreaf | not so many it seems | 17:03 |
| andreaf | let's see if someone shows up otherwise I'll cancel for today | 17:03 |
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| wznoinsk | hi, is qa meeting on? | 17:05 |
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| andreaf | hi | 17:06 |
| andreaf | I was waiting for someone to join :) | 17:06 |
| andreaf | welcome | 17:06 |
| wznoinsk | hi there | 17:07 |
| andreaf | wznoinsk: since no-one else joined I'll skip the formal agenda | 17:07 |
| andreaf | do you have anything you wanted to discussed | 17:07 |
| andreaf | discuss? | 17:07 |
| wznoinsk | I have one item from some time ago (never had a chance to bring it up): what's the prereq to have https://review.openstack.org/#/c/508554/ and similar changes for RH guest OSes accepted in Tempest? | 17:07 |
| patchbot | patch 508554 - tempest - fix v6 tests on NetworkManager-based operating sys... | 17:07 |
| wznoinsk | I'm about to double check and reply to Atilla's feedback, but most likely the code that's there is the correct one (we need both nm and ip commands) | 17:09 |
| andreaf | uhm in general we try to avoid as much as possible OS specific things - but it's not possible to completely avoid it | 17:09 |
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| wznoinsk | yep, it doesn't break compatibvility with non network manager OSes (i.e.: cirros) tho, such change would cover three distros too | 17:10 |
| andreaf | we had a plan in the past to make such guest OS specific things external to tempest.conf, like metadata in a guest os file that can be loaded or so | 17:10 |
| andreaf | but it never came to live | 17:10 |
| wznoinsk | andreaf, could we use this metadata to override internal functions of a test tho? | 17:11 |
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| andreaf | wznoinsk: yeah it should be possible but we never implemented that | 17:12 |
| wznoinsk | andreaf, I'd imagine it could be even more challenging now when tests are in project's repos or project's tempest plugin repos | 17:13 |
| andreaf | wznoinsk: the thing is that we don't want to be in the business on tempest side to maintain guest os specific things - but neither we want to prevent people from being able to use different guest OS | 17:14 |
| wznoinsk | andreaf, so is it fair to say that because of lack of a proper soltuion as you said ^ we have to pack these things raw inside and do them right when any solution exists? | 17:14 |
| andreaf | is there a specific reason for testing with a network manager based OS? | 17:14 |
| wznoinsk | andreaf, yep, we test with rhel on the host and rhel in guest... gues which company I work for now ;-) | 17:15 |
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| wznoinsk | andreaf, definitively I'll follow whatever is the right path to do these things, I'm not kin on kicking off the project you've suggested tho - I'm not sure how many RH specifics will pop out like this more... for the moment only this and we run most of the tempest and neutron tests in my team | 17:17 |
| wznoinsk | s/kin/keen | 17:17 |
| andreaf | yeah sure - I'm still not sure using rhel as a guest really helps you validating rhel openstack | 17:18 |
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| andreaf | for guest specific testing it probably make sense to stick to scenario test (like the one in your patch) | 17:19 |
| wznoinsk | I'd say the more variants of testing the better - more edge cases caught (even on the infrastructure side) | 17:19 |
| andreaf | so as long as we don't get a stream of patches everywhere for rhel specific things I don't mind the one patch | 17:20 |
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| andreaf | an alternative for you could be to have a downstream plugin with rhel guest specific tests | 17:20 |
| andreaf | so for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/508554/ as long as it's well documented and it does not break compatibility with cirros I don't mind | 17:21 |
| patchbot | patch 508554 - tempest - fix v6 tests on NetworkManager-based operating sys... | 17:21 |
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| andreaf | but since we'll have to maintain that code it would be nice to have a nice long comment on top of the command explaining what it is about :) | 17:21 |
| wznoinsk | let me do two things first, I'll double check atilla's comment + I'll review how the other tests that potentially do something with NIC's up/down or around behave and whether they could be impacted (I don't have any failing like this at the moment so I'll double check why) | 17:22 |
| wznoinsk | ack on comment | 17:22 |
| andreaf | ok sounds like a plan :) | 17:23 |
| wznoinsk | ok, talk to you once it happens ;) thanks | 17:23 |
| andreaf | sure np | 17:23 |
| andreaf | anything else? | 17:23 |
| andreaf | otherwise I'll close the meeting for today | 17:24 |
| wznoinsk | I'm good | 17:24 |
| andreaf | ok | 17:24 |
| andreaf | ttyl | 17:24 |
| andreaf | #endmeeting qa | 17:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 17:24 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 18 17:24:33 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:24 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2018/qa.2018-01-18-17.01.html | 17:24 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2018/qa.2018-01-18-17.01.txt | 17:24 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2018/qa.2018-01-18-17.01.log.html | 17:24 |
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| efried | #startmeeting nova | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 18 21:00:16 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is efried. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 21:00 |
| edleafe | \o | 21:00 |
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| takashin | o/ | 21:00 |
| tssurya_ | o/ | 21:00 |
| efried | The agenda hasn't been updated in a couple of weeks, so I'm not going to bother going through it line by line. | 21:00 |
| efried | #topic Release News | 21:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Release News (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:01 | |
| edmondsw | o/ | 21:01 |
| efried | #info Jan 18 (TODAY): non-client library (oslo, os-vif, os-brick, os-win, os-traits, etc) release freeze | 21:01 |
| efried | #info Jan 25 (NEXT TH): q-3 milestone, Feature Freeze, final python-novaclient release, requirements freeze, Soft String Freeze | 21:01 |
| efried | questions about the release schedule? | 21:01 |
| efried | (Not that I could answer them) | 21:01 |
| efried | #topic Bugs | 21:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:02 | |
| efried | Any bugs that are more important than feature work right now? | 21:02 |
| Rambo | Hello,everyone, Can you help me to review the spec about rebuild a instance booted from volume? | 21:02 |
| Rambo | The link is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/532407/ | 21:02 |
| patchbot | patch 532407 - nova-specs - Support volume-backed server rebuild | 21:02 |
| Rambo | Thank you very much. | 21:03 |
| Rambo | Any suggestion is welcome. | 21:03 |
| efried | Rambo Is that a Rocky blueprint (I hope)? | 21:03 |
| Rambo | yes | 21:03 |
| efried | Okay. JFYI, I suspect things will be quiet on the Rocky blueprint review front for the next couple of weeks. | 21:03 |
| efried | I'm going to skip Reminders and Stable Branch Status unless anyone has something to bring up there? | 21:04 |
| efried | #topic Subteam Highlights | 21:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Subteam Highlights (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:04 | |
| efried | dansmith ? | 21:04 |
| Rambo | thanks | 21:04 |
| tssurya_ | there wasn't any cells meeting this week | 21:04 |
| efried | Okay, thanks tssurya_ | 21:04 |
| efried | Scheduler. | 21:05 |
| efried | Scheduler meeting summary (with relevant bits updated as of a few minutes ago): | 21:05 |
| efried | update_provider_tree series now starts with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/533244/ -- bottom several patches getting close to ready. | 21:05 |
| efried | Nested affordance in alloc cands - series has started to merge; bottom is now https://review.openstack.org/#/c/531899/ | 21:05 |
| efried | Granular resource requests (efried): https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/granular-resource-requests is still waiting for ^^ | 21:05 |
| patchbot | patch 533244 - nova - ProviderTree.data => ProviderData | 21:05 |
| patchbot | patch 531899 - nova - tests for alloc candidates with nested and traits | 21:05 |
| efried | Alt hosts down to one patch (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/526436/). This now has jaypipes +2. | 21:05 |
| patchbot | patch 526436 - nova - Change compute RPC to use alternates for resize | 21:05 |
| efried | Placement bugs (https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=placement) - expect a scrub after feature freeze. | 21:05 |
| efried | ProviderTree accessors were discussed, ultimately resulting in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/533244/ | 21:05 |
| patchbot | patch 533244 - nova - ProviderTree.data => ProviderData | 21:05 |
| efried | <EOM> | 21:05 |
| efried | Questions, comments, rotten vegetables? | 21:05 |
| * edleafe throws a wormy tomato | 21:05 | |
| efried | API: Assume alex_xu is sleeping as he should be. Anyone else care to report? | 21:06 |
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| efried | Notifications: Assume gibi is sleeping as he should be. Anyone else care to report? | 21:07 |
| efried | #link Last notification email update: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-January/126217.html | 21:07 |
| efried | Cinder. mriedem is out. ildikov, care to comment? | 21:08 |
| jaypipes | efried: dansmith is out for a week | 21:08 |
| efried | ack | 21:08 |
| ildikov | efried: o/ | 21:08 |
| ildikov | efried: briefly the multi-attach changes are here: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/multi-attach-volume+(status:open+OR+status:merged) | 21:09 |
| ildikov | efried: still have a couple open reviews, there are two patches in Nova to enable multi-attach, both have a +2 already | 21:09 |
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| ildikov | Sylvain is started to review the series and approved the bottom two, those got landed an hour ago | 21:10 |
| efried | Nice! | 21:10 |
| ildikov | thanks to everyone already! | 21:10 |
| ildikov | I will detail it once we're over the final headless-chicken-run part :) | 21:11 |
| efried | Sounds good. Thanks for the update ildikov. | 21:11 |
| ildikov | happy for any review that we can get | 21:11 |
| ildikov | but I believe we are in a good shape | 21:11 |
| ildikov | tempest tests and gate job patches are all up for review as well | 21:12 |
| ildikov | efried: that would be it | 21:12 |
| efried | Thanks ildikov | 21:12 |
| efried | #topic Stuck Reviews | 21:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stuck Reviews (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:12 | |
| efried | I think the one listed on the agenda we talked about two weeks ago | 21:12 |
| efried | Anyone have any stuck reviews to bring up? | 21:12 |
| efried | #topic Open Discussion | 21:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:13 | |
| efried | I believe the topic listed on the agenda was also discussed two weeks ago. | 21:13 |
| efried | Anyone have anything they want to talk about? | 21:13 |
| efried | Preferably related to nova in some way. | 21:13 |
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| * efried pre-empts a smartass comment from edleafe or jaypipes | 21:14 | |
| jaypipes | efried: just that I have to explain to operators that they've been doing the wrong thing w.r.t. configuration management for the past two years. | 21:14 |
| jaypipes | fun. | 21:14 |
| * edleafe prefers dumbass comments | 21:14 | |
| edmondsw | he did say preferably... | 21:14 |
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| efried | jaypipes You referring to http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-January/126307.html ? | 21:15 |
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| jaypipes | efried: yessir. | 21:15 |
| Rambo | What do you think of this bp? the link is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/510106/ | 21:16 |
| patchbot | patch 510106 - nova-specs - Virtual instance rescue with stable disk devices | 21:16 |
| Rambo | is about rescue the server | 21:16 |
| jaypipes | Rambo: as I've mentioned on the review, I'm not supportive of the idea. but I won't block others. | 21:16 |
| Rambo | the bp is the previous,not mine | 21:17 |
| Rambo | I think this bp is executable | 21:18 |
| efried | Rambo Looks like it has some support, but didn't get approved for Queens. | 21:18 |
| Rambo | yes | 21:19 |
| efried | Rambo Just make sure it gets brought up again during spec review season for Rocky. | 21:19 |
| edmondsw | Rambo probably a good conversation for the PTG, and repropose for Rocky | 21:19 |
| efried | Rambo As I mentioned earlier, there's not likely to be much focus on Rocky blueprints for at least the next week or two. | 21:19 |
| Rambo | so I want to listen to the views | 21:19 |
| Rambo | I can change it to Queens,thank you | 21:20 |
| efried | s/Queens/Rocky/ | 21:20 |
| efried | Sounds good Rambo | 21:20 |
| efried | Anything else anyone? | 21:20 |
| Rambo | I am really interested in this,Can you give me some advice?Thank you very much. | 21:20 |
| edmondsw | Rambo I suggest you try to catch mdbooth on IRC and sync with him on that as the author | 21:21 |
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| efried | Okay folks, thanks for bearing with me here. Is mriedem back next week? | 21:22 |
| Rambo | yes,I will,this is about rescue,can you give me some suggestion about rebuild? | 21:23 |
| efried | Rambo Not now. Ask again in two or three weeks. | 21:23 |
| edleafe | efried: yes, he'll be back. | 21:23 |
| efried | edleafe Good deal. Then presumably he'll have an updated agenda and run the real version of this meeting. | 21:24 |
| efried | Thanks all, gonna call it there. | 21:24 |
| efried | #endmeeting | 21:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 21:24 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 18 21:24:28 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:24 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2018/nova.2018-01-18-21.00.html | 21:24 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2018/nova.2018-01-18-21.00.txt | 21:24 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2018/nova.2018-01-18-21.00.log.html | 21:24 |
| Rambo | Ok,thank you | 21:24 |
| edleafe | You faked it pretty well. | 21:24 |
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