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| hongbin | #startmeeting zun | 03:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue May 23 03:00:04 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is hongbin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 03:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 03:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: zun)" | 03:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'zun' | 03:00 |
| hongbin | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Zun#Agenda_for_2017-05-23_0300_UTC Today's agenda | 03:00 |
| hongbin | #topic Roll Call | 03:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: zun)" | 03:00 | |
| pksingh | Hello | 03:00 |
| Shunli | :) | 03:00 |
| Namrata | Namrata | 03:00 |
| shubhams | Shubham | 03:00 |
| mkrai | Madhuri Kumari | 03:00 |
| lakerzhou | lakerzhou | 03:00 |
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| hongbin | thanks for joining pksingh Shunli Namrata shubhams mkrai lakerzhou | 03:01 |
| hongbin | btw, kevin told me that he cannot join today due to a team lunch | 03:01 |
| hongbin | ok, let's get started | 03:01 |
| hongbin | #topic Cinder integration | 03:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Cinder integration (Meeting topic: zun)" | 03:01 | |
| hongbin | i am splitting this bp into two | 03:02 |
| hongbin | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/zun/+spec/direct-cinder-integration Direct Cinder integration | 03:02 |
| hongbin | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/zun/+spec/cinder-zun-integration Cinder integration via Fuxi | 03:02 |
| diga | Digambar Patil | 03:02 |
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| hongbin | my thinking is to have two options when integrating with cinder | 03:02 |
| hongbin | hi diga | 03:02 |
| diga | hongbin: hello | 03:02 |
| hongbin | 1. direct integrate with cinder | 03:02 |
| hongbin | 2. integrate with cinder via fuxi | 03:03 |
| diga | +1 | 03:03 |
| hongbin | both options have advantage and disadvantage i think, so i propose to support both | 03:03 |
| hongbin | for implementaiton, there will be two volume driver in parallel | 03:03 |
| hongbin | i will update the spec to reflect this change | 03:04 |
| Shunli | @hongbin, could you explain direct integration with cinder. | 03:04 |
| hongbin | Shunli: basically, it means integrate with cinder without fuxi | 03:04 |
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| hongbin | Shunli: for implementation, i will try to por the nova code to zun as a driver | 03:04 |
| diga | hongbin: direct integration with cinder, you mean, what fuxi does, we should implement in Zun | 03:04 |
| Shunli | direct integration is for container in vm? | 03:05 |
| hongbin | diga: direct integration means a light-weight alternative to fuxi | 03:05 |
| diga | hongbin: okay | 03:05 |
| hongbin | Shunli: for container in vm/baremetal | 03:05 |
| Shunli | ok | 03:06 |
| hongbin | i propose this mainly for decoupling the hard dependency on fuxi | 03:06 |
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| hongbin | these two efforts could be implemented in parallel | 03:06 |
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| hongbin | i will drive the cinder one, i assume diga will still drive the fuxi one? | 03:07 |
| pksingh | hongbin: what do you mean by light weight alternative in detail? | 03:07 |
| hongbin | pksingh: basically, i mean operations can install zun without installing fuxi | 03:07 |
| pksingh | hongbin: so replicating fuxi code in zun? | 03:08 |
| hongbin | pksingh: however, could leverage the built-in cinder driver to get data volume from cinder | 03:08 |
| hongbin | pksingh: there will be some amount of dupication, yes | 03:08 |
| pksingh | hongbin: you are going to run that driver as daemon? | 03:08 |
| hongbin | pksingh: i will make the dupication as minimual as possible | 03:08 |
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| Shunli | I guess mainly duplicate on the docker volume driver part | 03:09 |
| diga_ | sorry got disconnected | 03:09 |
| hongbin | yes, fuxi has a lot of code, the duplication is the cinder/os-bridge part | 03:09 |
| hongbin | os-brick | 03:09 |
| hongbin | pksingh: don't get your last question | 03:10 |
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| pksingh | hongbin: how will docker communicate to this driver? | 03:10 |
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| hongbin | pksingh: i didn't think of it in details, but i think docker won't talk to anything in that option | 03:11 |
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| pksingh | hongbin: ok | 03:12 |
| hongbin | pksingh: not sure if it is possible, but what i think of is directly using os-brick library to mount volume to host, and point docker to use that volume | 03:12 |
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| pksingh | hongbin: ok | 03:12 |
| hongbin | pksingh: do you think it is a good idea? or a bad idea? | 03:13 |
| pksingh | hongbin: i need to look into this | 03:13 |
| diga_ | but hongbin if there is os-brick integration with fuxi, then we can have those calls implemented in fuxi implementation | 03:13 |
| hongbin | ok, i will update hte existing spec for that | 03:14 |
| hongbin | diga_: it is already implemented in fuxi | 03:14 |
| hongbin | diga_: the goal is provide an alternative to fuxi | 03:14 |
| diga_ | hongbin: then in that case, its just enablement of it | 03:14 |
| lakerzhou | Hongbin, I want to confirm a high-level volume use case for container. Volume attached to container should be ephemeral, right? | 03:15 |
| diga_ | hongbin: yeah, I understand, but then in cinder also, we are going to implement os-brick ? | 03:15 |
| hongbin | lakerzhou: i guess it is | 03:15 |
| lakerzhou | hongbin, thanks for clarify. | 03:17 |
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| hongbin | ok, folks, i will leave further discussion to reviews of the spec that i am going to submit | 03:17 |
| diga_ | hongbin: I hv some thoughts on "directly integrating with cinder", will talk to you separately after this call | 03:18 |
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| hongbin | diga_: ack | 03:18 |
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| hongbin | #topic Introduce container composition | 03:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Introduce container composition (Meeting topic: zun)" | 03:18 | |
| hongbin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/437759/ The design spec | 03:18 |
| hongbin | kevinz is not here today, i will drive this session | 03:19 |
| hongbin | i saw kevinz pushed a spec for review | 03:19 |
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| hongbin | would love your feedback there :) | 03:19 |
| hongbin | i don't have anything else on this topic | 03:20 |
| hongbin | any comment? | 03:20 |
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| pksingh | i will look into it this week, i think most of the comments has been resolved | 03:20 |
| hongbin | pksingh: ack | 03:20 |
| hongbin | ok, next topic | 03:21 |
| hongbin | #topic Support floating IP association (pksingh) | 03:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Support floating IP association (pksingh) (Meeting topic: zun)" | 03:21 | |
| hongbin | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/zun/+spec/floating-ip-association | 03:21 |
| hongbin | pksingh: ^^ | 03:21 |
| pksingh | hongbin: thanks | 03:21 |
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| pksingh | actually we want to attach the floating IP to our containers | 03:22 |
| pksingh | i was thinking to implement a REST api for this in zun | 03:22 |
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| pksingh | but later came to know nova has deprecated such api in their code | 03:22 |
| pksingh | they are saying to use neutron api for this | 03:22 |
| zsli_ | But seems nova's floating ip bind is implemented in neutron. | 03:23 |
| pksingh | because nova api is just a proxy to neutron api | 03:23 |
| pksingh | so what do you guys think, should we implement in zun or follow same as nova | 03:23 |
| mkrai | Use neutron API | 03:23 |
| pksingh | zsli_: we are using neutron networking in zun | 03:24 |
| lakerzhou | +1 Use neutron API | 03:24 |
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| Shunli | @pksingh, yes. | 03:24 |
| pksingh | Shunli: what do you thunk? | 03:24 |
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| Shunli | Not sure neutron api can satisfy zun floating ip binding requirements | 03:25 |
| pksingh | Shunli: i was thinking to attach floating ip to fixed address port of the container | 03:26 |
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| pksingh | Shunli: i think nova does the same thing | 03:26 |
| Shunli | @pksingh, not go through the related code in detail. Maybe we can discuss it when code review. | 03:27 |
| Shunli | +1 for use neutron api. | 03:27 |
| pksingh | so according to your views, we should not implement it in zun, instead of this client use neutron api to assign floating IPs | 03:28 |
| hongbin | +1 | 03:28 |
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| mkrai | But we should document it in Zun | 03:29 |
| pksingh | ok thanks guys, then we dont need to do anything in this BP | 03:29 |
| Shunli | @pksingh, yes. I guess nova use neutron api has some reason. | 03:29 |
| hongbin | pksingh: i guess the cli still need some work? | 03:29 |
| pksingh | hongbin: so you are saying we need to add cli for this? | 03:30 |
| hongbin | pksingh: in addition, the container has an 'addresses' fields, right now, it only shows the fixed_ip, would be better to show the floating ip as well | 03:30 |
| pksingh | user->cli->neutron-api? | 03:30 |
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| hongbin | pksingh: if nova does it, then yes, but i haven't gave it more thoughts | 03:31 |
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| pksingh | hongbin: yes, that is a valid point to show the floating IP and store in the database, do we need to add periodic task for this | 03:31 |
| pksingh | hongbin: nova i think has deprecated that from client side too, | 03:32 |
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| hongbin | pksingh: i see | 03:32 |
| pksingh | hongbin: ok , i will give it more thoughts, how we can make it better | 03:33 |
| hongbin | pksingh: sorry, i need to leave for about 5 minutes | 03:33 |
| hongbin | pksingh: could you chair this meeting for me? | 03:33 |
| pksingh | never done this, i think mkrai can do this | 03:34 |
| hongbin | folks, sorry about that | 03:34 |
| pksingh | mkrai: please go ahead | 03:34 |
| mkrai | sure | 03:35 |
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| mkrai | pksingh: Do you have anything more to discuss on this? | 03:35 |
| pksingh | mkrai: no | 03:36 |
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| mkrai | ok I will move to next topic | 03:36 |
| mkrai | #topic Add Zun Resources to Heat (Namrata) | 03:36 |
| mkrai | Namrata: ^ | 03:36 |
| Namrata | Hi | 03:36 |
| Namrata | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/437810/ | 03:37 |
| Namrata | I have updated the patch and its up for review | 03:37 |
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| mkrai | Are there any remaining patch for this work? | 03:37 |
| Namrata | after completion of Add container to zun resources heat BP will be completed | 03:38 |
| Shunli | one comments inline. I guess we should wait when containing is running, then the stack create complete. | 03:38 |
| mkrai | Great. Thanks Namrata for working on this. | 03:39 |
| hongbin | back | 03:39 |
| Namrata | Thanks Shunli I will see the inlined comments | 03:39 |
| mkrai | Shunli: I think the patch has a check for waiting for container status | 03:39 |
| mkrai | to be in one of the completion state i.e Running, failed etc | 03:39 |
| mkrai | But I need to check more in detail. | 03:39 |
| Shunli | @mkrai, yes. But when container is in creating state | 03:39 |
| mkrai | hongbin: Ok chair is your's now :) | 03:40 |
| Shunli | check_complete returned True. | 03:40 |
| hongbin | mkrai: ack | 03:40 |
| mkrai | Shunli: I see that is an issue | 03:40 |
| mkrai | I will review the patch today | 03:40 |
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| hongbin | Shunli: sorry , i am catching up your comment | 03:41 |
| mkrai | Shunli: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/437810/7/heat/engine/resources/openstack/zun/container.py L143 | 03:41 |
| mkrai | It seems it is returning False in Creating state | 03:41 |
| mkrai | So it is correct | 03:41 |
| Shunli | @mkrai, sorry. I mean in created state, we still should not return true | 03:42 |
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| hongbin | Shunli: i see | 03:42 |
| Shunli | @mkrai, only when container is running state, we can return true. | 03:42 |
| hongbin | Shunli: i think there are some cases that the container might exist right away after | 03:43 |
| hongbin | Shunli: for example, if hte command is "echo hello" or something, the contianer will exit right after | 03:43 |
| hongbin | Shunli: ok, never mind, in that case, the container will be on stopped state | 03:44 |
| Shunli | @hongin, ah ,you are right. It's a bit complicate. | 03:44 |
| hongbin | Shunli: then, i agree with you, it should return false on 'created' | 03:45 |
| Shunli | @hongbin, yeah. | 03:45 |
| mkrai | hongbin: Namrata How do you think about adding a doc in Zun about our Heat resource? | 03:45 |
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| hongbin | it looks Namrata is away | 03:47 |
| Namrata | I will add the doc for the same | 03:47 |
| hongbin | :) | 03:47 |
| mkrai | We can use the example for Zun demo in Boston summit :) | 03:48 |
| hongbin | Namrata: do you see the comment from Shunli about the return value on 'Created' ? | 03:48 |
| Namrata | sounds good | 03:48 |
| Namrata | hongbin Yes I have seen that | 03:48 |
| hongbin | Namrata: ok | 03:49 |
| Namrata | It should not be true | 03:49 |
| hongbin | ok | 03:50 |
| Namrata | ok | 03:50 |
| hongbin | thanks Namrata | 03:50 |
| hongbin | next topic | 03:50 |
| Namrata | thanks mkrai hongbin | 03:50 |
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| hongbin | #topic Others | 03:50 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Others (Meeting topic: zun)" | 03:50 | |
| Namrata | thanks shunli | 03:50 |
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| hongbin | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/zun-nfv-use-cases NFV use cases | 03:50 |
| hongbin | i will pause for a few seconds for everyone to review hte etherpad | 03:51 |
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| hongbin | this etherpad is based on an initial discussion between me and lakerzhou | 03:51 |
| hongbin | please feel free to write your inputs to there if any | 03:52 |
| pksingh | 'it should return false on 'created'', why it should return False, | 03:52 |
| hongbin | pksingh: because the heat template is actually "run" the container | 03:54 |
| hongbin | pksingh: if the command is run, it will either become "Running" or "Stopped" | 03:54 |
| hongbin | pksingh: if it is "Created", it will be considered as unstable state | 03:55 |
| pksingh | hongbin: its not for create? | 03:55 |
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| hongbin | pksingh: if it is created, it will turn to "Running" or "Stopped" later | 03:55 |
| mkrai | For create also, the final completion state is Stopped or Running | 03:55 |
| pksingh | hongbin: means it is for 'zun run ' but not for 'zun create' | 03:56 |
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| pksingh | mkrai: i think we modified it, 'zun create' moves to 'Created' state, i think? | 03:56 |
| hongbin | pksingh: the heat template will call 'zun run' | 03:56 |
| pksingh | hongbin: ok then no issues | 03:56 |
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| hongbin | pksingh: ack | 03:57 |
| hongbin | ok, we are almost running out of time | 03:57 |
| hongbin | #topic Open Discussion | 03:57 |
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| hongbin | any last minute question/comment? | 03:58 |
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| hongbin | lakerzhou: i have a question for you (written in the etherpad) | 03:58 |
| lakerzhou | ok | 03:59 |
| lakerzhou | I will take a look later | 03:59 |
| hongbin | lakerzhou: thx | 03:59 |
| lakerzhou | np | 03:59 |
| hongbin | ok, all, thanks for joining the meeting | 03:59 |
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| hongbin | let's continue the discussion at hte openstack-zun channel | 03:59 |
| hongbin | #endmeeting | 03:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 03:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 23 03:59:46 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 03:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zun/2017/zun.2017-05-23-03.00.html | 03:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zun/2017/zun.2017-05-23-03.00.txt | 03:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zun/2017/zun.2017-05-23-03.00.log.html | 03:59 |
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| samP | Thanks Zun team.....:) | 03:59 |
| samP | Hi all for Masakari..o/ | 04:00 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | HI | 04:00 |
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| samP | #startmeeting masakari | 04:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue May 23 04:00:34 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is samP. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 04:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 04:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: masakari)" | 04:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'masakari' | 04:00 |
| samP | Hi all..o/ | 04:00 |
| rkmrHonjo | hi | 04:00 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | Hi all | 04:00 |
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| samP | Dinesh_Bhor: hi | 04:00 |
| samP | rkmrHonjo: hi | 04:00 |
| abhishek_k | o/ | 04:01 |
| samP | abhishek_k: hi | 04:01 |
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| abhishek_k | samP: hi | 04:01 |
| samP | Lets start with bugs.. | 04:01 |
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| samP | #topic Critical Bugs | 04:01 |
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| sagara | Hi | 04:01 |
| abhishek_k | just to inform all Tushar san will not be able to join today's meeting | 04:01 |
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| samP | abhishek_k: thanks... | 04:02 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/masakari/+bug/1690768 | 04:02 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1690768 in masakari "Notification status will be "error" if recovered instance was "resized"." [High,New] - Assigned to Dinesh Bhor (dinesh-bhor) | 04:02 |
| samP | Dinesh_Bhor: yes.. | 04:02 |
| samP | that is one of the bugs.. | 04:02 |
| samP | we have several reports with same topic | 04:03 |
| samP | Which is, how to rescue VM with state= {'shelved', 'paused' , 'rescued', etc...} | 04:04 |
| abhishek_k | samP: we can reset them to error state and then they will be evacuated | 04:04 |
| abhishek_k | samP: but the problem is do we need to maintain it's state when it will be evacuated because it will be overhead | 04:05 |
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| samP | abhishek_k: sure, in order to evacuate we have to set the state=error | 04:05 |
| samP | abhishek_k: That is my point, do we hvae to put it back to same state as before...? | 04:06 |
| abhishek_k | samP: for example if instance is shelved then after evacuating it will be active on target host, then if we need to maintain previous state then we need to make additional call to shelve it again | 04:06 |
| samP | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/masakari/+bug/1690768/comments/5 | 04:06 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1690768 in masakari "Notification status will be "error" if recovered instance was "resized"." [High,New] - Assigned to Dinesh Bhor (dinesh-bhor) | 04:06 |
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| abhishek_k | samP: right | 04:07 |
| samP | abhishek_k: in that case, what we want is not to start it after evacaute. | 04:08 |
| abhishek_k | samP: IMO then for all such cases we can make additional call to stop that instance, is it sounds good? | 04:08 |
| samP | However, with current evacuate, error instancess will be active after evacuate. | 04:08 |
| abhishek_k | samP: right | 04:09 |
| samP | abhishek_k: In that case, instance will be at active state till we make it stop via API, right? | 04:09 |
| abhishek_k | samP: yesz | 04:10 |
| abhishek_k | s/yesz/yes | 04:10 |
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| samP | for some apps, that may acceptable. But not all of the | 04:10 |
| samP | s/the/them | 04:11 |
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| abhishek_k | samP: imo if we can set those instances to error state then stop them before evacuating | 04:12 |
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| samP | abhishek_k: can we use reset state API to stop them? | 04:12 |
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| abhishek_k | samP: with reset we can only set to error or active | 04:13 |
| samP | abhishek_k: yes, same understanding here | 04:13 |
| samP | so, how can we set it to stop before evacuate?.. | 04:14 |
| abhishek_k | samP: after reseting the instance to error state we can call stop api (need to check though) | 04:14 |
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| samP | I dont think simply sotp API is gonna work, because nova-compute is not there,...( agree: need to check) | 04:15 |
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| abhishek_k | samP: you are right | 04:16 |
| samP | rkmrHonjo: You said you have some doc for Masakri recovery patterns? | 04:16 |
| samP | abhishek_k: lets check it and comment to https://bugs.launchpad.net/masakari/+bug/1690768 | 04:16 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1690768 in masakari "Notification status will be "error" if recovered instance was "resized"." [High,New] - Assigned to Dinesh Bhor (dinesh-bhor) | 04:16 |
| abhishek_k | samP: may be before disabling the compute node we can do this stuff (it requires rearranging current tasks) | 04:17 |
| abhishek_k | samP: ok | 04:17 |
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| samP | abhishek_k: the probelm is compute-node is not there, disabling is db thing anb stop is need to done in virt | 04:17 |
| samP | abhishek_k: anyway let check that... | 04:18 |
| abhishek_k | samP: correct | 04:18 |
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| abhishek_k | samP: instance remains in powering-off state if compute node is not there | 04:19 |
| samP | if Im remember correctly, rkmrHonjo told me that he have some doc about how masakari react to each state of VMs. | 04:20 |
| samP | If rkmrHonjo can contrubute that do to comunity, that would be really nice.. | 04:20 |
| samP | abhishek_k: great.. | 04:20 |
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| rkmrHonjo | samP: OK, I'll contribute it. | 04:20 |
| samP | rkmrHonjo: thank you. | 04:20 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | rkmrHonjo: thanks | 04:21 |
| rkmrHonjo | samP: Can I put it in document directory of masakari repository? | 04:21 |
| samP | abhishek_k: BTW, powering-off is the power state, right? | 04:21 |
| abhishek_k | samP: yes | 04:21 |
| abhishek_k | samP: vm state remains as it is | 04:22 |
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| Dinesh_Bhor | vm_state is previous state, task_state is powering-off, power_state is 1 | 04:23 |
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| samP | rkmrHonjo: sure, you may put them under, doc/masakari_features/ or some suitable name | 04:25 |
| samP | sorry for delay.. cut off from the net...;) | 04:25 |
| rkmrHonjo | samP: thanks. I get it. | 04:25 |
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| samP | Dinesh_Bhor: abhishek_k , thanks... possiable states are state=error and tast_state=pwertin-off, power_state=1 ? | 04:27 |
| abhishek_k | samP:need to check what is power_state = 1 means | 04:28 |
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| samP | I think we still have to check whether we can set the ^^above VMs state can set to STOP. | 04:28 |
| samP | abhishek_k: sure, lets check them. | 04:28 |
| abhishek_k | samP: yes | 04:28 |
| samP | could some one take a quick check and update the https://bugs.launchpad.net/masakari/+bug/1690768? | 04:29 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1690768 in masakari "Notification status will be "error" if recovered instance was "resized"." [High,New] - Assigned to Dinesh Bhor (dinesh-bhor) | 04:29 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | I am working on this | 04:30 |
| samP | Dinesh_Bhor: thank you... | 04:31 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | will push patch soon | 04:31 |
| rkmrHonjo | Dinesh_Bhor: Thanks. | 04:31 |
| samP | Dinesh_Bhor: thanks... | 04:31 |
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| samP | OK then, are there other Bugs to discuss? | 04:31 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | One more question: is the billing happens for 'shelved' instance? | 04:32 |
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| Dinesh_Bhor | I mean instance releases resources when in 'shelved' state so will user get charged for those resources? | 04:32 |
| samP | Dinesh_Bhor: if( shelved_offload_time != 0) causes? | 04:33 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | when shelved_offload_time = -1 | 04:33 |
| samP | Dinesh_Bhor: it depends, but normally user will not get charged for shelved VMs. | 04:34 |
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| abhishek_k | samP: hmm, then after evacaution if instance goes to active state then user will be charged in this case | 04:34 |
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| samP | abhishek_k: yes.. | 04:35 |
| samP | thasz why I prefer to error or (stop?) state after rescue | 04:35 |
| abhishek_k | samP: even instance is stopped, resources will be consumed right? | 04:36 |
| samP | abhishek_k: right | 04:36 |
| samP | abhishek_k: but that depends on how you charge.. | 04:37 |
| abhishek_k | samP: ok | 04:37 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | samP: ok, thanks | 04:37 |
| abhishek_k | samP: let me see how we can tackle this | 04:37 |
| samP | abhishek_k: sure, let's discuss further on https://bugs.launchpad.net/masakari/+bug/1690768 | 04:38 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1690768 in masakari "Notification status will be "error" if recovered instance was "resized"." [High,New] - Assigned to Dinesh Bhor (dinesh-bhor) | 04:38 |
| samP | Any other Bugs? | 04:38 |
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| abhishek_k | samP: no | 04:39 |
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| samP | abhishek_k: thanks | 04:39 |
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| abhishek_k | samP: I have added on point but we can discuss that after PIKE work items discussion | 04:40 |
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| samP | abhishek_k: sure.. we will | 04:40 |
| samP | #topic Discussion points | 04:40 |
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| samP | I have added some comments for recovery method customization | 04:41 |
| samP | abhishek_k: please check them | 04:41 |
| abhishek_k | samP: I have checked them, will push new specs soon | 04:41 |
| abhishek_k | samP: I have added some points in the etherpad which will point out problems in adding mistral driver in masakari | 04:41 |
| samP | abhishek_k: thanks | 04:41 |
| abhishek_k | samP: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/masakari-recovery-method-customization | 04:41 |
| abhishek_k | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/masakari-recovery-method-customization | 04:41 |
| samP | abhishek_k: thanks...I will take a look and if it is possible lets put them in the spec. | 04:43 |
| abhishek_k | if anyone has any suggestion for those or identifies anyother problem then please update it in the etherpad | 04:43 |
| abhishek_k | samP: sure, I will | 04:43 |
| samP | #action ALL review and put your comments for https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/masakari-recovery-method-customization | 04:44 |
| samP | abhishek_k: thank you. | 04:44 |
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| samP | Update for Pike work Items: | 04:44 |
| samP | we gonnd skip "Improve the masakari-hostmonitor's implementation about detecting split-brain", because no better idea than current one | 04:45 |
| rkmrHonjo | samP: yes, I'd like to skip it. sorry. | 04:46 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | ok, | 04:46 |
| samP | rkmrHonjo: NP, lets skip it in pike | 04:46 |
| rkmrHonjo | thanks. | 04:47 |
| samP | Other than that, on much update on pike work items. | 04:47 |
| samP | s/on much/no much/ | 04:47 |
| samP | Lets move to abhishek_k's item. | 04:48 |
| abhishek_k | yes | 04:48 |
| samP | #topic Host recovery flow, after evacuation instance is deleted then notification will be marked as failure | 04:48 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Host recovery flow, after evacuation instance is deleted then notification will be marked as failure (Meeting topic: masakari)" | 04:48 | |
| samP | abhishek_k: could you please explain this a bit? | 04:48 |
| abhishek_k | suppose we are having 1000 instances on host A which is failed | 04:49 |
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| abhishek_k | and we are evacuating those instances to host B | 04:49 |
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| abhishek_k | as per current implementation, evacuation task will evacuate all 1000 instances and then pass control to confirm evacuation task | 04:49 |
| abhishek_k | so before confirming the evacuation is done if user deletes or performs any other opertation such as stop, shelved etc then it will fail to confirm that evacuation is done for that instance and it will mark that notification as error | 04:51 |
| samP | abhishek_k: sould we confirm them in more atomic level? or lock the instaces? | 04:52 |
| abhishek_k | samP: if we lock that instance then till evacuation confirmation user will not be able to perform any action | 04:53 |
| samP | abhishek_k: correct | 04:53 |
| abhishek_k | samP: in production there might be mre than 10000 of instances so locking will not be efficient | 04:53 |
| abhishek_k | s/mre/more | 04:54 |
| samP | abhishek_k: agree | 04:54 |
| rkmrHonjo | or, should we change notification status to ignore if instance is changed to the status other than expected? | 04:54 |
| rkmrHonjo | I afraid the race condition between masakari's operation and user's operation. | 04:55 |
| abhishek_k | rkmrHonjo: there might be the case that while evacuating the instance goes to error state and if we set the notification to ignore then periodic task will not pick that notification for processing | 04:56 |
| samP | abhishek_k: we can break down the confirm evacuateion to per VM and lock it till Masakari confirm ti. | 04:56 |
| abhishek_k | one suggestion is can we cobmine evacuate and confirm evacuate task | 04:56 |
| abhishek_k | samP: yes, I was saying same thing | 04:57 |
| samP | abhishek_k: yep.. | 04:57 |
| abhishek_k | samP: we will identify pros and cons for this and let you know | 04:57 |
| samP | abhishek_k: sure, please consider the race condition between masakari's operation and user's operation too | 04:58 |
| samP | we are running out of time... | 04:58 |
| abhishek_k | samP: yes | 04:58 |
| rkmrHonjo | abhishek_k: thanks. | 04:58 |
| samP | No update from other topicd | 04:58 |
| samP | s/topicd/topics | 04:59 |
| samP | #topic AOB | 04:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "AOB (Meeting topic: masakari)" | 04:59 | |
| abhishek_k | rkmrHonjo: no problem | 04:59 |
| samP | Please bring other topics to #openstack-masakari or openstack-dev ML with [masakari] | 04:59 |
| abhishek_k | yes | 04:59 |
| samP | lets end the meeting... | 05:00 |
| abhishek_k | thank you | 05:00 |
| samP | thank you all ... | 05:00 |
| samP | #endmeeting | 05:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 05:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 23 05:00:16 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 05:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2017/masakari.2017-05-23-04.00.html | 05:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2017/masakari.2017-05-23-04.00.txt | 05:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2017/masakari.2017-05-23-04.00.log.html | 05:00 |
| sagara | thank you | 05:00 |
| rkmrHonjo | thank you all, bye. | 05:01 |
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| yuval | #startmeeting karbor | 09:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue May 23 09:00:13 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is yuval. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: karbor)" | 09:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'karbor' | 09:00 |
| yuval | Hello, and welcome to Karbor's weekly meeting! | 09:00 |
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| chenying | hi | 09:01 |
| yuval | hey chenying | 09:01 |
| chenying | yedongcan has a topic about cross sites backup and restores. | 09:02 |
| zhonghua | hi | 09:02 |
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| jiaopengju | hi | 09:02 |
| yedongcan | hi | 09:02 |
| zengchen | hello | 09:02 |
| yuval | #info chenying zhonghua jiaopengju yedongcan zengchen in meeting | 09:02 |
| yuval | #topic Data backup and restore between two region sites | 09:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Data backup and restore between two region sites (Meeting topic: karbor)" | 09:02 | |
| yuval | yedongcan: ? | 09:04 |
| chenying | yedongcan Can you give more detail about this usecase. We discuss it yestoday. | 09:04 |
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| yedongcan | ok | 09:04 |
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| yedongcan | we have a customer, will build two datacenters. Need to implement RD in those datacenters. | 09:05 |
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| zhonghua | DR? | 09:06 |
| yedongcan | sorry, DR. | 09:06 |
| zhonghua | :) | 09:06 |
| chenying | disaster recovery | 09:06 |
| yedongcan | we may use keystone federation | 09:07 |
| chenying | There are two openstack cloud in these two datacenters? | 09:07 |
| yedongcan | chenying: yes | 09:07 |
| yuval | yedongcan: as we spoke in karbor channel, if karbor's bank is shared between the providers in the two datacenters, this is possible | 09:07 |
| yedongcan | yuval: ok, just some question, which data will be backup? | 09:08 |
| yuval | yedongcan: karbor protect->restore flow: you create a plan, consisting of a pre-configured provider and the list of resources you would like to protect. Then you call protect on the plan, and a checkpoint is created. Then you restore the checkpoint in the second site | 09:09 |
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| yuval | yedongcan: so you can select any resource out of: server, network, volume, image, etc | 09:10 |
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| chenying | yuval The bank is a concept of karbor. I care about that using the same bank backend (swift or ceph), Can the user access the data in two regions? The ceph or the ceph deployed in two regions(datacenters) | 09:11 |
| yedongcan | yuval: ok, how does the network build in another site? | 09:12 |
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| yuval | yedongcan: networks, subnets, ports are recreated on the target. Restore is parameterized, so addresses can be changed | 09:13 |
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| yedongcan | yuval, you mean just rebuild data in db? | 09:15 |
| yuval | yedongcan: which db? | 09:15 |
| yedongcan | yuval: neutron db | 09:15 |
| yuval | yedongcan: new network, subnets, and ports are created, so eventually new records enter the neutron db | 09:16 |
| yedongcan | yuval: and then neutron agent will sync data from neutron db, then build the virtual network device, flows and so on? | 09:16 |
| chenying | yedongcan rebuild new neutron resources in neutron, not only the data in db. | 09:16 |
| yuval | yedongcan: karbor doesn't care about neutron internal implementation, it uses the neutron api to recreate the resources | 09:17 |
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| yedongcan | yuval: ok, If a user have a public ip for business, so the public ip will also changed? | 09:19 |
| yuval | yedongcan: that's where parameterized restore fits in - you state that information when restoring | 09:20 |
| chenying | yedongcan It depend on the the parameter of restore, user can use the some public ip in the backup data, or using a new ip in the new sites. | 09:23 |
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| yedongcan | yuval, chenying: I'm not sure about it , we map public ip and fixed ip in neutron, fixed ip had changed, so the mapping will invalid. | 09:24 |
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| chenying | It means that we new build a new mapping about public ip and fixed ip in new site's neutron | 09:28 |
| chenying | s/new/need | 09:28 |
| yedongcan | chenying: yes | 09:29 |
| chenying | I thenk that this need be considered in restoration of the new site. | 09:30 |
| yuval | chenying: I agree | 09:31 |
| chenying | as i talke before, The bank is a concept of karbor. I care about that using the same bank backend (swift or ceph), Can the user access the data in two regions? The ceph or the ceph deployed in two regions(datacenters) | 09:31 |
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| yedongcan | chenying: I'll have a quick confirm | 09:35 |
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| yuval | yedongcan: anything else on this topic? | 09:37 |
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| chenying | ping jiaopengju | 09:37 |
| yedongcan | yuval: nothing, thanks. | 09:38 |
| jiaopengju | hi | 09:38 |
| yuval | #topic Open Discussion | 09:38 |
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| yuval | hey jiaopengju | 09:38 |
| chenying | yuval Last time, we discuss the solution about file backup in karbor without agent. | 09:38 |
| chenying | we are thinking about using rclone in vm to backup the file. | 09:39 |
| chenying | jiaopengju did a test about rclone. | 09:40 |
| yuval | chenying: and? | 09:41 |
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| chenying | So Yuval, Do you think that introduce a new tool like rclone in vm to backup file is a good choice in this use case? | 09:41 |
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| yuval | chenying: I think that file backup is probably not the solution for applications on the cloud | 09:43 |
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| yuval | chenying: specifically rclone - where will rclone copy the data to? | 09:44 |
| chenying | It mean that the plugin need a ssh connection to access the vm. | 09:44 |
| chenying | yuval: reclone the swift or ceph the bank of karbor. | 09:44 |
| yuval | chenying: what if the vm doesn't have an ssh service running? | 09:45 |
| yuval | chenying: but the bank is an abstraction, if you rclone to the bank, you broke the abstraction | 09:45 |
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| chenying | The original requirement is proposed by jiaopengju. So what's your oppion about this solution using ssh not agent. | 09:46 |
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| yuval | chenying: It is ok, for some use cases | 09:46 |
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| chenying | yuval: the bank has create a correct section for the file backup, using rclone backup the file section of bank. | 09:48 |
| jiaopengju | I think we should consider many more scenes, such as users have changed their ssh port, or the vm have no ssh service, etc | 09:49 |
| yuval | chenying: the bank is an abstraction, it can be swift, ceph, s3, file system, database, or a proprietary data store | 09:49 |
| yuval | chenying: also, exposing details of the bank to the protection plugin is a leaky abstraction | 09:49 |
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| chenying | yuval So the file backup plugin only need call the cmd in vm, don't need use the bank API? just pass the backend config of bank to vm using ssh | 09:51 |
| yuval | chenying: it doesn't have to be a backend config of the bank, but yes | 09:52 |
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| chenying | jiaopengju care about that we may not thinking carefully about this file backup solution. | 09:54 |
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| yuval | Until now, nobody raised that | 09:55 |
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| yuval | jiaopengju: are you here? | 09:55 |
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| jiaopengju | yes | 09:56 |
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| chenying | jiaopengju Do you want to write this bp about this file backup solution? So we can discuss more detail or scenes in the bp's patch. | 09:56 |
| yuval | chenying: good idea | 09:56 |
| jiaopengju | I would like do | 09:56 |
| chenying | jiaopengju you can propose the scenes you care about. | 09:57 |
| yuval | great | 09:57 |
| jiaopengju | ok | 09:57 |
| yuval | with that, I'll end the meeting as we are out of time | 09:57 |
| chenying | OK | 09:57 |
| yuval | thanks for attending | 09:57 |
| yuval | #endmeeting | 09:57 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 09:57 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 23 09:57:55 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/karbor/2017/karbor.2017-05-23-09.00.html | 09:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/karbor/2017/karbor.2017-05-23-09.00.txt | 09:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/karbor/2017/karbor.2017-05-23-09.00.log.html | 09:58 |
| jiaopengju | the network between karbor node and vm node | 09:58 |
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| ralonsoh | Hello | 15:00 |
| ralonsoh | let's start | 15:00 |
| davidsha | Hi | 15:00 |
| ralonsoh | #startmeeting neutron_qos | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue May 23 15:01:09 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ralonsoh. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_qos)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_qos' | 15:01 |
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| ralonsoh | #topic RFEs | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "RFEs (Meeting topic: neutron_qos)" | 15:01 | |
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| ralonsoh | Today the agenda is pretty full | 15:01 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1560961 | 15:01 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1560961 in neutron "[RFE] Allow instance-ingress bandwidth limiting" [Wishlist,Fix released] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 15:02 |
| ralonsoh | The API code is merged | 15:02 |
| ralonsoh | Congrats slaweq ! | 15:02 |
| davidsha | Congrats! | 15:02 |
| ralonsoh | OVS implementation: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/457816/ | 15:02 |
| slaweq | hello | 15:02 |
| slaweq | and thx | 15:02 |
| slaweq | :) | 15:02 |
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| ralonsoh | this patch is going well | 15:02 |
| ralonsoh | but | 15:02 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/466899/ | 15:02 |
| slaweq | yes, but first I need to do one more small patch | 15:03 |
| ralonsoh | This second patch to change the delete handler is kind of rejected | 15:03 |
| slaweq | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/466899/ | 15:03 |
| ralonsoh | Ok, I don't see Ihar here.... | 15:03 |
| slaweq | I talked with ihrahys yesterday night | 15:03 |
| ralonsoh | and? | 15:03 |
| slaweq | I know what to do there | 15:03 |
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| ralonsoh | to add several entry points? | 15:04 |
| slaweq | I will add there also calls to "delete_ingress_bandwidth_limit_rule" | 15:04 |
| slaweq | and other such rules | 15:04 |
| ralonsoh | pffff I don't like it | 15:04 |
| slaweq | so basically I will do what mlavalle proposed in comment | 15:04 |
| ralonsoh | I know | 15:04 |
| ralonsoh | but I prefer to have a unique entry point | 15:04 |
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| ralonsoh | and the backend will accept or not the parameter | 15:05 |
| ralonsoh | but it's not big deal | 15:05 |
| slaweq | I'm also not big fan of this but what I can do :) | 15:05 |
| ralonsoh | ok, I'll review your following patches | 15:05 |
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| ralonsoh | no problem, do this way | 15:05 |
| slaweq | thx | 15:05 |
| ralonsoh | next one | 15:05 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1578989 | 15:05 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1578989 in neutron "[RFE] Strict minimum bandwidth support (egress)" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Rodolfo Alonso (rodolfo-alonso-hernandez) | 15:05 |
| ralonsoh | I need to talk to Miguel Lavalle | 15:06 |
| ralonsoh | I can't see him now | 15:06 |
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| ralonsoh | so i'll postpone this conversation and I'll submit the conversation results | 15:06 |
| ralonsoh | next one | 15:06 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1596611 | 15:06 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1596611 in neutron "[RFE] Create L3 IPs with qos (rate limit)" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to LIU Yulong (dragon889) | 15:06 |
| ralonsoh | First, the spec | 15:07 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/374506/ | 15:07 |
| ralonsoh | It's almost approved, although there are some gaps in the implementation details | 15:07 |
| ralonsoh | but if cores accept it, that's ok | 15:07 |
| ralonsoh | please, take a final look at the spec | 15:08 |
| slaweq | I will try to look on it today | 15:08 |
| ralonsoh | second, the TC changes | 15:08 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453458/ | 15:08 |
| ralonsoh | I don't agree with having two TC wrappers | 15:08 |
| ralonsoh | I'm against it | 15:08 |
| ralonsoh | and I was assertive on this idea | 15:09 |
| slaweq | what's the point to have two classes for same puprose? | 15:09 |
| ralonsoh | one sec | 15:09 |
| ralonsoh | "l3 tc lib has much differences from original tc_lib. The file is stored separately is more clearly." | 15:09 |
| ralonsoh | the answer from the reviews | 15:09 |
| slaweq | what are those differences? | 15:10 |
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| ralonsoh | the way the qdiscs and the filters are created and filtered | 15:10 |
| slaweq | I will check it today also but I'm not sure if it's good idea | 15:10 |
| slaweq | yes, but can't it be added in separate methods in existing class? | 15:10 |
| ralonsoh | I appreciate your reviews | 15:10 |
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| ralonsoh | IMO, it's just a matter of merging both wrappers | 15:11 |
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| ralonsoh | and taking care of the functionalities added by both classes, the current one and the new one | 15:11 |
| slaweq | I agree with You but I will take a look on it tonight | 15:12 |
| ralonsoh | perfect | 15:12 |
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| ralonsoh | and 3rd, the API | 15:12 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/424466/ | 15:12 |
| ralonsoh | IMO, that needs a big refactor | 15:12 |
| ralonsoh | this API is breaking the current QOS API | 15:12 |
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| ralonsoh | my comments are in the review | 15:13 |
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| ralonsoh | btw | 15:13 |
| ralonsoh | it's anyone, apart from slaweq and me here?? | 15:13 |
| ralonsoh | davidsha | 15:13 |
| davidsha | Sorry was looking at the patches! | 15:13 |
| ralonsoh | no problem | 15:13 |
| ralonsoh | so, just to recap this RFE: there is a lot of work to be done in the API coding | 15:14 |
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| ralonsoh | next one | 15:14 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1560961 | 15:14 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1560961 in neutron "[RFE] Allow instance-ingress bandwidth limiting" [Wishlist,Fix released] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 15:14 |
| ralonsoh | code merged! congrats | 15:14 |
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| ralonsoh | I'll remove this one from the list | 15:15 |
| slaweq | but it's only API patch merged :) | 15:15 |
| ralonsoh | I know | 15:15 |
| slaweq | :) | 15:15 |
| * mlavalle got confused with the meeting start time :-( | 15:15 | |
| ralonsoh | Which backend are you going to do first | 15:15 |
| ralonsoh | ? | 15:15 |
| slaweq | but as I said before it's moving forward :) | 15:15 |
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| slaweq | ovs is first one | 15:15 |
| davidsha | Hey mlavalle | 15:15 |
| ralonsoh | perfect | 15:15 |
| ralonsoh | hi mlavalle, no problem | 15:15 |
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| slaweq | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/457816/ | 15:16 |
| slaweq | this is patch for ovs ingress bw limit | 15:16 |
| slaweq | for lb I have something done partially in my local devstack | 15:16 |
| ralonsoh | oh, yes! I missed that in the meeting etherpad. One sec.... | 15:16 |
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| ralonsoh | ok, I had this spec twice! | 15:17 |
| ralonsoh | hehehee | 15:17 |
| ralonsoh | perfect, next one | 15:17 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1639220 | 15:17 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1639220 in neutron "[RFE] Introduce Network QoS policy "is_default" behaviour" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Rodolfo Alonso (rodolfo-alonso-hernandez) | 15:17 |
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| mlavalle | slaweq: should I expect a revision to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/457816/ before reviewing again? | 15:17 |
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| ralonsoh | yes, there should be a new one | 15:18 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: yes | 15:18 |
| mlavalle | ++ | 15:18 |
| ralonsoh | first to remove the delete handling code and more stuff | 15:18 |
| slaweq | I will need to rebase it when https://review.openstack.org/#/c/466899/ will be finished | 15:18 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: I talked with ihrahys yesterday and we deviced to make it as You proposed :) | 15:19 |
| mlavalle | ahh, that's the new one, ok, will also take a look | 15:19 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: but this new one is not finished yet | 15:19 |
| mlavalle | slaweq: yeah,m I followed the conversation in channel yesterday | 15:19 |
| ralonsoh | ok, going to the "is_default" one | 15:20 |
| slaweq | ok | 15:20 |
| ralonsoh | the code is waiting.... | 15:20 |
| mlavalle | reviews, maybe? | 15:20 |
| ralonsoh | it has one +2 and one +1 | 15:20 |
| ralonsoh | yes, final ones | 15:20 |
| ralonsoh | that's all | 15:20 |
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| ralonsoh | ok, let's move to the next one | 15:21 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1505627 | 15:21 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1505627 in neutron "[RFE] QoS Explicit Congestion Notification (ECN) Support" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Reedip (reedip-banerjee) | 15:21 |
| mlavalle | ok, will take a look | 15:21 |
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| ralonsoh | reedip? | 15:21 |
| ralonsoh | I'll try to ping reedip latter today. The spec is stopped since march | 15:22 |
| mlavalle | The comment I have from the drivers meeting is that they want an opinion from the QoS gang as to whether this is something you are going to pursue | 15:22 |
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| ralonsoh | well, at least should be interesting to have a detailed spec to propose | 15:23 |
| mlavalle | that would be a good next step | 15:23 |
| slaweq | ++ | 15:23 |
| ralonsoh | I'll join next drivers meeting to ask this | 15:23 |
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| ralonsoh | This is mainly reedip's work | 15:24 |
| mlavalle | it is very late for you: 2300UTC | 15:24 |
| ralonsoh | no, problem | 15:24 |
| mlavalle | ok | 15:24 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: I think it's 2200 UTC | 15:24 |
| ralonsoh | and the last one | 15:24 |
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| mlavalle | yes, slaweq is right | 15:24 |
| ralonsoh | yes, it's 2200UTC | 15:24 |
| ralonsoh | next one | 15:25 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1686035 | 15:25 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1686035 in neutron "[RFE] More detailed reporting of available QoS rules" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 15:25 |
| ralonsoh | I have one concern: ihar's comment | 15:25 |
| slaweq | I wrote some specs for this once https://review.openstack.org/#/c/466500/ | 15:25 |
| mlavalle | yeah, same concern here | 15:25 |
| ralonsoh | about doing this feature more generic: (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/386555/7/guidelines/capabilities.rst) | 15:25 |
| slaweq | I don't know how to do it more generic in fact | 15:26 |
| ralonsoh | Yes, but this spec is focused only in QoS | 15:26 |
| slaweq | but I wanted to be on next drivers meeting to talk about it also | 15:26 |
| ralonsoh | I know, it's very difficult to make a generic API for all extensions | 15:26 |
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| ralonsoh | slaweq: that will be great | 15:26 |
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| ralonsoh | I have some concerns about the differentiation between the admin user and regular user | 15:27 |
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| slaweq | I even don't know exactly what other resources should be available in same way (backend support details) | 15:27 |
| ralonsoh | the differences in the information sent | 15:27 |
| ralonsoh | if you join next day the drivers meeting, can you ask this too? | 15:28 |
| ralonsoh | having more feedback will be very helpful | 15:28 |
| slaweq | yes, I will ask them | 15:28 |
| slaweq | I wanted to write some first draft of specs to discuss it on drivers meeting | 15:29 |
| ralonsoh | yes, I understand, and that's ok. You have smething to present | 15:29 |
| slaweq | exactly :) | 15:29 |
| ralonsoh | one more thing before jumping to the other section | 15:30 |
| mlavalle | slaweq: I will try to provide feedback before the drivers meeting | 15:30 |
| slaweq | thx mlavalle | 15:30 |
| ralonsoh | mlavalle: after this meeting, do you have time to talk about https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1578989? | 15:30 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1578989 in neutron "[RFE] Strict minimum bandwidth support (egress)" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Rodolfo Alonso (rodolfo-alonso-hernandez) | 15:30 |
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| mlavalle | sure | 15:31 |
| ralonsoh | perfect | 15:31 |
| ralonsoh | ok, let's go to bugs | 15:31 |
| ralonsoh | #topic Bugs | 15:31 |
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| ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1676877 | 15:31 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1676877 in neutron "Increase "TestQosPlugin.test_update_policy_rule" coverage" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Reedip (reedip-banerjee) | 15:31 |
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| ralonsoh | reedip has this one on-hold | 15:32 |
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| ralonsoh | as I said, I'll try to ping reedip a bit latter | 15:32 |
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| ralonsoh | next one | 15:32 |
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| ralonsoh | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1657381 | 15:32 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1657381 in neutron "QoS drivers need to implement a precommit for the actions" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Rodolfo Alonso (rodolfo-alonso-hernandez) | 15:32 |
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| ralonsoh | The code is delivered and just to be reviewed | 15:33 |
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| ralonsoh | Please, this patch is almost finished | 15:34 |
| slaweq | ok, I will check it | 15:34 |
| ralonsoh | and the last one | 15:34 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1649517 | 15:34 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1649517 in neutron "qos policy attached to network, qos_policy_id is reflecting on neutron net-show , but not on the port with neutron port-show" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Reedip (reedip-banerjee) | 15:34 |
| ralonsoh | I belongs to reedip | 15:35 |
| ralonsoh | I'll ping him | 15:35 |
| slaweq | reedip took this one from me but he didn't do anything there yet | 15:35 |
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| ralonsoh | I'll try to ping him to know which patches is going to continue | 15:35 |
| ralonsoh | if he is overloaded, I'll ask him to transfer some of them | 15:36 |
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| ralonsoh | I'll try to have the answer this week | 15:36 |
| slaweq | ok | 15:36 |
| ralonsoh | and that's all! | 15:37 |
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| ralonsoh | there are no more topics | 15:37 |
| ralonsoh | #topic Open Discussion | 15:37 |
| davidsha | ack, If he needs to offload that work I can take that bug. | 15:37 |
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| ralonsoh | davidsha: that's perfect | 15:37 |
| ralonsoh | as I said, I'll try to ping him this week | 15:38 |
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| ralonsoh | does anyone any other topic to talk about? | 15:38 |
| ralonsoh | or any question? | 15:38 |
| davidsha | I'm good. | 15:39 |
| mlavalle | me too | 15:39 |
| slaweq | me too | 15:39 |
| mlavalle | davidsha: where are you located? | 15:39 |
| ralonsoh | perfect | 15:39 |
| davidsha | mlavalle: Ireland | 15:39 |
| mlavalle | yeah, with that last name, that's what I thought ;-) | 15:39 |
| davidsha | :P | 15:39 |
| ralonsoh | so please, take a look at "L3 IP limit" and "ingress limiting BW" | 15:40 |
| ralonsoh | both RFEs are important | 15:40 |
| davidsha | To be fair there is more Irish outside of Ireland than in it! | 15:40 |
| slaweq | ralonsoh: yes sir! :P | 15:40 |
| ralonsoh | hehehe | 15:40 |
| davidsha | ralonsoh: Will do! | 15:40 |
| mlavalle | davidsha: yeah, I know, That' why I asked | 15:40 |
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| slaweq | davidsha: in Ireland there is more poles probably :D | 15:40 |
| mlavalle | LOL | 15:41 |
| ralonsoh | hehehehe | 15:41 |
| ralonsoh | ok, I'm going to end the meeting. See you next week and in IRC | 15:41 |
| ralonsoh | #endmeeting | 15:42 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:42 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 23 15:42:10 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:42 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2017/neutron_qos.2017-05-23-15.01.html | 15:42 |
| ralonsoh | bye! | 15:42 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2017/neutron_qos.2017-05-23-15.01.txt | 15:42 |
| slaweq | thanks | 15:42 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2017/neutron_qos.2017-05-23-15.01.log.html | 15:42 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 15:42 |
| slaweq | bye | 15:42 |
| davidsha | Cya! | 15:42 |
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| lbragstad | #startmeeting keystone | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue May 23 18:00:03 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is lbragstad. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'keystone' | 18:00 |
| lbragstad | ping ayoung, breton, cmurphy, dstanek, edmondsw, gagehugo, henrynash, hrybacki, knikolla, lamt, lbragstad, notmorgan, rderose, rodrigods, samueldmq, spilla, aselius | 18:00 |
| edmondsw | o/ | 18:00 |
| rodrigods | hey | 18:00 |
| spilla | o/ | 18:00 |
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| lbragstad | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-weekly-meeting | 18:00 |
| hrybacki | o/ | 18:00 |
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| lbragstad | o/ | 18:00 |
| gagehugo | o/ | 18:01 |
| lamt | o/ | 18:01 |
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| lbragstad | #topic Updating keystone's documentation theme | 18:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Updating keystone's documentation theme (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:01 | |
| lbragstad | ping Samriddhi ? | 18:02 |
| lbragstad | asettle: ^ | 18:02 |
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| gagehugo | I put it on there just in case there is no reason to do this | 18:02 |
| gagehugo | Samriddhi is making the changes | 18:02 |
| lbragstad | gagehugo: ah | 18:02 |
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| lbragstad | gagehugo: i haven't seen these changes yet - is this the new theme for all projects to move to? | 18:03 |
| gagehugo | I think so | 18:03 |
| rodrigods | can I add a doc convo after the theme discussion? | 18:03 |
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| lbragstad | rodrigods: sure | 18:03 |
| rodrigods | cool | 18:04 |
| lbragstad | rodrigods: we should be able to get through all the topics today | 18:04 |
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| lbragstad | gagehugo: has the general direction of moving to this new theme be documented somewhere? | 18:04 |
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| gagehugo | lbragstad no idea :( | 18:04 |
| knikolla | o/ i'm late | 18:04 |
| lbragstad | gagehugo: ah - no worries | 18:04 |
| gagehugo | idea was more to just bring this to our attention | 18:04 |
| lbragstad | gagehugo: if it is - it would be nice to track that down so that we can include it in the commit | 18:05 |
| lbragstad | gagehugo: i can leave a comment | 18:05 |
| gagehugo | lbragstad sounds good | 18:05 |
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| gagehugo | there is a comment saying that the plan is to get all project using this theme on that change | 18:05 |
| samueldmq | hi, sorry I am late | 18:05 |
| gagehugo | but idk where there is documentation for it | 18:06 |
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| rodrigods | the new theme is much nicer, btw | 18:06 |
| gagehugo | rodrigods ++ | 18:06 |
| rodrigods | material design? :) heh | 18:06 |
| lbragstad | sweet - i let a comment | 18:06 |
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| lbragstad | we can iterate on it in review - thanks gagehugo for bringing it up | 18:06 |
| gagehugo | sounds good! | 18:06 |
| samueldmq | #thanks https://review.openstack.org/#/c/466066/ | 18:06 |
| samueldmq | oops | 18:06 |
| samueldmq | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/466066/ | 18:06 |
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| lbragstad | rodrigods: do you want to do your topic now? | 18:07 |
| samueldmq | lbragstad ^ I think I added you to the review, but I should have pinged you on IRC | 18:07 |
| rodrigods | lbragstad, sure! | 18:07 |
| rodrigods | speaking of docs... | 18:07 |
| lbragstad | rodrigods: sure - go for it | 18:07 |
| rodrigods | please take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/keystone+branch:master+topic:tests_development_docs | 18:07 |
| rodrigods | no reviews for a while | 18:07 |
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| lbragstad | #topic review requests for functional testing documentation | 18:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "review requests for functional testing documentation (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:08 | |
| lbragstad | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/keystone+branch:master+topic:tests_development_docs | 18:08 |
| lbragstad | rodrigods: ++ | 18:08 |
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| rodrigods | thanks lbragstad | 18:08 |
| lbragstad | rodrigods: thank you for the reminder | 18:08 |
| lbragstad | rodrigods: is there anything else you need on that front besides reviews? | 18:08 |
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| rodrigods | lbragstad, i think reviews are enough | 18:09 |
| rodrigods | specially for those who haven't touched the functional tests | 18:09 |
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| lbragstad | rodrigods: cool - thanks | 18:09 |
| lbragstad | #topic Microversion header bug | 18:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Microversion header bug (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:09 | |
| lbragstad | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1689644 | 18:09 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1689644 in OpenStack Identity (keystone) "Keystone does not report microversion headers" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Jaewoo Park (aselius) | 18:09 |
| lbragstad | nhelgeson: o/ | 18:09 |
| aselius | o/ | 18:10 |
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| nhelgeson | o/ | 18:10 |
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| nhelgeson | uh | 18:10 |
| nhelgeson | So I have been working on finding a way to implement versioning in the header | 18:11 |
| ayoung | I reported that based on the convo at the summit | 18:11 |
| ayoung | I really don't care about it, but wanted to make sure we didn't lose the concept | 18:11 |
| nhelgeson | and I was wondering about where the code should be added | 18:11 |
| nhelgeson | I found a way to add some version info in the header | 18:11 |
| lbragstad | nhelgeson: ayoung ah - this must have been in the microversion session? | 18:11 |
| nhelgeson | so I can leave it at that for now | 18:11 |
| ayoung | nhelgeson, yep | 18:11 |
| lbragstad | nhelgeson: do you have a patch up for review? | 18:11 |
| nhelgeson | not yet | 18:12 |
| edmondsw | I don't know that I really care, but at the PTG all the keystone cores seemed pretty anti-microversions | 18:12 |
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| ayoung | we should probably put it in common/WSGI.py somewhere, right? | 18:12 |
| nhelgeson | thats where I am looking at the moment | 18:12 |
| gagehugo | edmondsw I think it was more we don't really "need" them atm | 18:12 |
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| lbragstad | ayoung: most likely, or the common controller layer at the very least | 18:12 |
| ayoung | edmondsw, I think the reason they wanted it was so that a common client code could be written for the others and for Keystone | 18:12 |
| knikolla | i sent a link on irc the last time this was asked, let me look it up | 18:13 |
| ayoung | probably the right thing to do, not a burning issue | 18:13 |
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| edmondsw | there are pretty good arguments that microversions are a mistake and make things more difficult for users rather than less... | 18:13 |
| lbragstad | robcresswell: has a bunch of opinions on them | 18:13 |
| nhelgeson | right now im looking at adding a few lines to the render_response on line 746 | 18:14 |
| lbragstad | which he represented at both the PTG and forum | 18:14 |
| knikolla | #link https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/1c44a3a1af5a9e3e48f6799b3006f02dada3341f/keystone/common/wsgi.py#L710 | 18:14 |
| nhelgeson | just figuring out how to include the request version in the header | 18:14 |
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| ayoung | edmondsw, I'm kindof of the mindset that at least we should be consistent, that there is very little completely right about our APIs anyway | 18:15 |
| lbragstad | nhelgeson: feel free to propose something for review | 18:15 |
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| nhelgeson | ill post a fix by the end of the week | 18:15 |
| lbragstad | but this doesn't require us to *implement* microversions does it? | 18:15 |
| robcresswell | I *think* dtroyer was working on making some of the code more common. | 18:16 |
| ayoung | lbragstad, just "report" I think | 18:16 |
| robcresswell | Which alleviates one of my issues with the implementation, at least. | 18:16 |
| lbragstad | ayoung: ok - good | 18:16 |
| nhelgeson | at this point is is just going to report the current version and let you know if its current or now | 18:16 |
| knikolla | no, this is just for returning the version of our api | 18:16 |
| nhelgeson | not* | 18:16 |
| ayoung | we can probably manually set a number, and just keep bumping it for now, kindof like what we do elsewhere | 18:16 |
| lbragstad | yeah | 18:16 |
| knikolla | ayoung: thats the feel i got too | 18:17 |
| lbragstad | at least until we figure out what our strategy is long term | 18:17 |
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| nhelgeson | I was planning on going a step further and getting the version request from the url and checking to see if its v1 v2 or v3 | 18:17 |
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| nhelgeson | and then reporting which one is being used and specifying it as current vs depricated | 18:18 |
| ayoung | nhelgeson, take it as far as you can. We'll review. | 18:18 |
| nhelgeson | ok | 18:18 |
| lbragstad | nhelgeson: we can address those bit in gerrit, too | 18:18 |
| ayoung | all good? | 18:19 |
| lbragstad | nhelgeson: is there anything else outside of that? | 18:19 |
| knikolla | nhelgeson: that might be unnecessary given that controllers for v3 subclass v3controller | 18:19 |
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| knikolla | so they have a common base class | 18:19 |
| samueldmq | Yeah, just returning the version and making cp happy wouldn't hurt | 18:19 |
| nhelgeson | nope | 18:19 |
| lbragstad | cool | 18:19 |
| nhelgeson | ill post something in gerrit | 18:19 |
| samueldmq | nhelgeson: ++ | 18:19 |
| lbragstad | #topic Project Tag Spec | 18:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Project Tag Spec (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:19 | |
| nhelgeson | and we can go from there | 18:19 |
| lbragstad | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/431785/ | 18:20 |
| lbragstad | gagehugo: o/ | 18:20 |
| ayoung | So, tags are very like labels in Kubernetes | 18:20 |
| lbragstad | last i checked cmurphy had a couple comments on that spec | 18:20 |
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| lbragstad | so did samueldmq | 18:20 |
| samueldmq | who's looking for that? | 18:21 |
| samueldmq | I guess it's been a while, but if it's something people want and it's the best way I wouldn't be against it | 18:21 |
| lbragstad | samueldmq: who wants tags? | 18:21 |
| ayoung | I think I am for it | 18:21 |
| gagehugo | lbragstad yeah we made some updates, hadn't touched it since before the summit | 18:21 |
| ayoung | it provides users a non-hierarchical way to organize projects, and people have asked for that for a while. | 18:21 |
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| ayoung | I did have a suggestion that we call them labels to be consistant with Kubernetes, but since we really are not anywhere else, its a small thing | 18:22 |
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| lbragstad | gagehugo: i'll review it again | 18:22 |
| edmondsw | I think other places in OpenStack, e.g. nova, use the "tags" term | 18:22 |
| samueldmq | lbragstad: yes, who wants it | 18:22 |
| lbragstad | samueldmq: gagehugo has proposed it for a couple releases now | 18:23 |
| gagehugo | edmondsw yeah, this spec closely follows the API-WG one for having resource tags | 18:23 |
| lbragstad | edmondsw: yeah - so does neutron i think | 18:23 |
| samueldmq | for easing management when you k's of projects correct? | 18:23 |
| ayoung | yep | 18:23 |
| gagehugo | samueldmq yes | 18:24 |
| samueldmq | nice, so perhaps nobody is against it, pretty much a "hey, review it" | 18:24 |
| ayoung | any lessons learned we sould apply here? | 18:24 |
| lbragstad | samueldmq: yeah - like i could take projects hosting my production app with a 'prod' tag for example | 18:24 |
| samueldmq | lbragstad: that way you could easily create groups of projects | 18:24 |
| ayoung | Ah...I remember the trick | 18:24 |
| lbragstad | i found the API-WG guidelines to be really helpful when reviewing gagehugo proposal | 18:24 |
| ayoung | "who owns the label" | 18:24 |
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| samueldmq | ayoung: the project | 18:25 |
| samueldmq | ? | 18:25 |
| knikolla | project owns the label, applied by admins | 18:25 |
| knikolla | i think | 18:25 |
| samueldmq | knikolla: that's how I see it too | 18:25 |
| lbragstad | ayoung: last i remember, we wanted that to be owned by the person who has the ability to create and modify projects | 18:25 |
| ayoung | let me try that again. | 18:25 |
| ayoung | lets say I have a label called "production" | 18:25 |
| lbragstad | knikolla: only by default | 18:25 |
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| ayoung | can anyone add that label to their project? | 18:25 |
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| lbragstad | knikolla: if someone wants to change it they can | 18:25 |
| lbragstad | but by default, regular users shouldn't have the ability to list tags on a project | 18:26 |
| lbragstad | ayoung: no | 18:26 |
| samueldmq | and it only make sense to add tags | 18:26 |
| samueldmq | if you have the rights to list projects | 18:26 |
| ayoung | ok, then who? | 18:26 |
| knikolla | lbragstad: yes, updating policy they can restrict or open it up as much as they want | 18:26 |
| samueldmq | because that's where filtering projects by tags will be useful | 18:26 |
| gagehugo | samueldmq ++ | 18:27 |
| samueldmq | ayoung: I'd say domain and cloud admins | 18:27 |
| lbragstad | sure - i agree that would be useful | 18:27 |
| lbragstad | but we don't have that worked into our default policy yet | 18:27 |
| knikolla | we recently found a project from a class project of a year ago just sitting there. tags would have been useful | 18:27 |
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| lbragstad | i was thinking that the required role to add and remove tags would be equivalent to the default we use for projects | 18:28 |
| ayoung | I suspect ability to create tags, to add a tag to a project, and to remove tags will all come up in RBAC discussions in the future | 18:28 |
| edmondsw | lbragstad i.e. admin, not looking at scope? | 18:28 |
| gagehugo | ayoung probably | 18:28 |
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| edmondsw | ayoung ++ | 18:28 |
| lbragstad | edmondsw: what do you mean? | 18:29 |
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| ayoung | lbragstad, global admin | 18:29 |
| edmondsw | lbragstad today's policy allows any admin to create/edit/delete projects | 18:29 |
| ayoung | admin + is_admin_project in newspeak | 18:29 |
| knikolla | ++ | 18:29 |
| ayoung | should tags be considered domain-specific? | 18:30 |
| lbragstad | sure - https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/keystone/common/policies/project.py#L20 | 18:30 |
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| edmondsw | I don't recall whether there is a scope check in the code yet | 18:30 |
| ayoung | i.e there may be a prod tag on projects in two different domains, but they don't mean anything? | 18:30 |
| edmondsw | there should be... but probably isn't | 18:30 |
| ayoung | er | 18:30 |
| ayoung | they are not related to each other? | 18:30 |
| edmondsw | then there's the question of whether an admin of a project should be able to change the tag for their project... or only admins of the parent of that project | 18:31 |
| samueldmq | well just as assignments we may allow project tags to cross domains boundaries? | 18:31 |
| edmondsw | I'd probably lean toward the latter | 18:31 |
| knikolla | edmondsw: only admins of the parent i would say | 18:31 |
| lbragstad | initially | 18:31 |
| edmondsw | just like I'd say that when we get into adding scope checks, you should only be able to create projects under a project/domain that you admin | 18:31 |
| lbragstad | eventually it would be nice if that changed as policy evolves | 18:31 |
| samueldmq | are we talking about rbac for the future? or for now | 18:31 |
| edmondsw | none of that's there today, though | 18:32 |
| gagehugo | edmondsw yes | 18:32 |
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| ayoung | are tags inherited when you make a child project? | 18:32 |
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| edmondsw | ayoung good question... probably not? | 18:32 |
| lbragstad | i would rather restrict the feature (by default) to global admin usage than open up security issues by allowing it to be used by project level assignment | 18:32 |
| knikolla | ayoung: i would lean towards no. | 18:32 |
| ayoung | Will tags be used for quotas? | 18:32 |
| lbragstad | ayoung: i wouldn't think so | 18:32 |
| samueldmq | lbragstad: I'd start it simple now and say it's like a project update call/same protection? | 18:32 |
| lbragstad | ayoung: no | 18:32 |
| samueldmq | and then we evolve it later as policy keeps improving | 18:33 |
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| ayoung | all those responses are lies. | 18:33 |
| ayoung | of course they will be used for quotas | 18:33 |
| ayoung | we are going to be burnt by this. | 18:33 |
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| ayoung | Lets do it! | 18:33 |
| edmondsw | ayoung how would they be used for quotas? | 18:33 |
| lbragstad | edmondsw: tagging the project with the quota as the tag | 18:33 |
| ayoung | edmondsw, why wouldn't they be used for quotas? Because we tell people not to? They will ignore us. | 18:34 |
| samueldmq | per-tag-quota-driver | 18:34 |
| edmondsw | I'm not following... what would enforce a tag value as a quota? | 18:34 |
| knikolla | oh god please no. let's just do unified limits already | 18:34 |
| lbragstad | knikolla: right | 18:34 |
| lbragstad | edmondsw: as an admin i could manage tags on a project for `vcpu_limit:50` | 18:35 |
| samueldmq | let me step a bit back, why is project tags better than organizing projects in a tree? | 18:35 |
| ayoung | Heh. | 18:35 |
| ayoung | samueldmq, it is in addition to a tree | 18:35 |
| lbragstad | the dangerous part is if projects build on it to enforce quota in other services | 18:35 |
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| ayoung | samueldmq, sometimes you have two different org schemes to follow, and a tree can only follow one of them | 18:35 |
| samueldmq | ayoung: that's the answer I think | 18:36 |
| edmondsw | samueldmq e.g. you could have multiple "production" projects under wildly different places in the tree | 18:36 |
| ayoung | organize by company structure versus organize dev-staging-prod | 18:36 |
| samueldmq | we don't enforce same quota to 2 different orgs | 18:36 |
| samueldmq | that wouldn't make sense to me | 18:36 |
| samueldmq | so quotas on project tags doesn't make sense | 18:36 |
| ayoung | samueldmq, its not us | 18:36 |
| edmondsw | I'm still missing how this has anything to do with quotas | 18:36 |
| knikolla | hence we really need to push for unified limits, so the only way they can do limits is the one we validate | 18:36 |
| ayoung | samueldmq, we can never predict how the things we make will be used | 18:36 |
| ayoung | unified limits are a pipe dream | 18:37 |
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| lbragstad | edmondsw: the thing is that it *could be used* to implement quotas based on limits | 18:37 |
| samueldmq | ayoung: they'd need to write their per-tag-quota-driver then | 18:37 |
| ayoung | pretty sure they are impossible with the way they've been speced | 18:37 |
| samueldmq | ayoung: and we can tell them its not what they're up to, if they do not agree they can do whatever they think is better | 18:37 |
| ayoung | so long as tagging and untagging a project is a separate api call from creating a project, we can RBAC manage them separately | 18:37 |
| edmondsw | lbragstad oh, you mean nova/etc. could use it for something we don't intend... not that an operator could? | 18:37 |
| knikolla | edmondsw: yes | 18:38 |
| lbragstad | edmondsw: correct | 18:38 |
| ayoung | start off with the call very restricted, and then think about if we need an call to create a tag separate from tagging a project | 18:38 |
| edmondsw | finally makes sense | 18:38 |
| samueldmq | I don't think they will implement anything without really understanding what the thing is for | 18:38 |
| ayoung | samueldmq, they never have before | 18:38 |
| ayoung | which leads to the next topic on the agenda... | 18:38 |
| lbragstad | but... the thing is that we're not going to be validating tags with the tree hierarchy that project limits require (as detailed in the unified limits spec) | 18:39 |
| edmondsw | but I don't think that's likely, unless the quota work that's already in process falls apart... they won't want to switch to something totally different and start over their design work | 18:39 |
| edmondsw | and what lbragstad just said | 18:39 |
| samueldmq | edmondsw: ++ | 18:39 |
| samueldmq | lets make it happen | 18:39 |
| samueldmq | and document it really well | 18:39 |
| lbragstad | while it's entirely possible - i'm not sure it would be a good design decision | 18:39 |
| lbragstad | but that's totally up to the people consuming this and if that's what they want to do - we can't really stop them | 18:40 |
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| lbragstad | we *can* move forward with unified limits and promote that as the supported way of solving the problem | 18:40 |
| samueldmq | lbragstad: exactly | 18:40 |
| samueldmq | and not hesitate on implementing something we need because people may use it on things we haven't planned it for | 18:41 |
| samueldmq | it's useful for managing projects, lets go for it | 18:41 |
| samueldmq | :-) | 18:41 |
| knikolla | i think we need this more than it can hurt us. | 18:42 |
| lbragstad | anyone else have anything on project tags? | 18:42 |
| ayoung | +2 from me | 18:42 |
| lbragstad | #topic super-infamous-bug-that-must-not-be-named-or-cited-by-number | 18:42 |
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| lbragstad | #link http://adam.younglogic.com/2017/05/fixing-bug-96869/ | 18:43 |
| lbragstad | ayoung: i assume you added this one? | 18:43 |
| samueldmq | would that be 968696? | 18:43 |
| ayoung | yep | 18:43 |
| ayoung | so...I wrote that up to try and explain to the other projects (namely nova) why they should review our fixes | 18:43 |
| ayoung | I had sdague say that he did not understand the approach | 18:43 |
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| lbragstad | ayoung: looks like it's hot off the press | 18:43 |
| gagehugo | ayoung interesting | 18:44 |
| ayoung | read it, critique, it might be incoherent | 18:44 |
| ayoung | tried to make it as clear and simple as possible | 18:44 |
| lbragstad | ayoung: cool | 18:44 |
| lbragstad | ayoung: are you planning on presenting this to anyone/ | 18:44 |
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| edmondsw | I'll try to read before our policy mtg tomorrow | 18:44 |
| ayoung | lbragstad, nope | 18:44 |
| edmondsw | did you ping johnthetubaguy to point it out? | 18:44 |
| lbragstad | edmondsw: ++ | 18:44 |
| ayoung | lbragstad, just pointing people at it when I ask them to review | 18:44 |
| lbragstad | ayoung: or sdague? | 18:44 |
| ayoung | just finished it last night. Did send a link to sdague yes | 18:45 |
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| lbragstad | ayoung: ok | 18:45 |
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| lbragstad | I will parse it today | 18:45 |
| ayoung | thanks. And critique. It looked right to me, but It was late, and I've been looking at this way too long | 18:45 |
| lbragstad | ayoung: i'm not sure it's possible to leave comments | 18:46 |
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| gagehugo | ayoung I'll read it over today as well | 18:46 |
| lbragstad | ayoung: how do you want us to critique it? | 18:46 |
| ayoung | email or pings in IRC will all work, comments on the blog. Carrier Pidgeon | 18:46 |
| lbragstad | ok | 18:46 |
| lbragstad | Alaskan sled dog is becoming my new favorite way to deliver super important messages | 18:47 |
| ayoung | I'd like to put this to rest. The bug is tagged high or critical everywhere, except nova, that has tagged it as a wishlist item | 18:47 |
| ayoung | I would like to point out that this is their bug. THis bug is older than Keystone | 18:47 |
| ayoung | it goes back to when identity was in Nova | 18:47 |
| ayoung | lbragstad, Malamutes or Huskies are both acceptable. Dog friendly household here. | 18:48 |
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| lbragstad | fwiw - i started working on OpenStack two months before that bug was opened... not sure how that makes me feel ;) | 18:48 |
| lbragstad | #topic open discussion | 18:49 |
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| ayoung | lbragstad, I'm pretty sure I know. Its been assigned to me that whole time, except where people grab it for short spurts | 18:49 |
| lbragstad | the floor is open if anyone has something | 18:49 |
| knikolla | anybody knows if they're making the ptg yet? | 18:49 |
| knikolla | making it to* | 18:49 |
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| gagehugo | knikolla no idea | 18:50 |
| lbragstad | knikolla: not sure yet - planning on it but I hope to know more this week | 18:50 |
| samueldmq | knikolla: I don't, too early yet | 18:50 |
| edmondsw | knikolla I expect to be there but not sure yet | 18:50 |
| samueldmq | but I am working on getting approval already | 18:50 |
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| knikolla | hopefully a lot of us make it | 18:51 |
| knikolla | i got approval for it | 18:51 |
| lbragstad | knikolla: sweet | 18:51 |
| lbragstad | fwiw - it's sept 11 - 15 | 18:51 |
| lbragstad | anyone have anything else? | 18:52 |
| lbragstad | cool - well thanks for coming! | 18:53 |
| lbragstad | #endmeeting | 18:53 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 18:53 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 23 18:53:11 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:53 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2017/keystone.2017-05-23-18.00.html | 18:53 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2017/keystone.2017-05-23-18.00.txt | 18:53 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2017/keystone.2017-05-23-18.00.log.html | 18:53 |
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| fungi | infra team, rise up! | 19:00 |
| fungi | this week we have action items assigned to and topics proposed by pabelanger, clarkb and jeblair | 19:00 |
| jeblair | o/ | 19:00 |
| fungi | also i have one i'll probably squeeze in | 19:00 |
| ianw | morning! | 19:00 |
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| clarkb | hello | 19:00 |
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| pabelanger | o/ | 19:01 |
| bkero | o/ | 19:01 |
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| fungi | okay, added mine to the agenda officially | 19:02 |
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| fungi | #startmeeting infra | 19:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue May 23 19:02:50 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is fungi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'infra' | 19:02 |
| fungi | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 19:03 |
| fungi | #topic Announcements | 19:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:03 | |
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| fungi | #info Many thanks to AJaeger (Andreas Jaeger) for agreeing to take on core reviewer duties for the infra-manual repo! | 19:03 |
| fungi | #info Many thanks to SpamapS (Clint Byrum) for agreeing to take on core reviewer duties for the nodepool and zuul repos! | 19:03 |
| fungi | as always, feel free to hit me up with announcements you want included in future meetings | 19:03 |
| fungi | #topic Actions from last meeting | 19:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Actions from last meeting (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:03 | |
| fungi | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2017/infra.2017-05-02-19.05.html Minutes from last meeting | 19:04 |
| fungi | pabelanger Open an Ubuntu SRU for bug 1251495 | 19:04 |
| openstack | bug 1251495 in mailman (Ubuntu Trusty) "Lists with topics enabled can throw unexpected keyword argument 'Delete' exception." [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1251495 | 19:04 |
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| fungi | guessing this one's still pending, not seeing one there yet | 19:04 |
| pabelanger | fungi: yes, at this point if you want to take it off action list, I am trying to work ubuntu community to get it done | 19:04 |
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| pabelanger | but, since layoffs it has been difficult finding people | 19:04 |
| pabelanger | was going to reach out to a few openstack ubuntu members and see how to best move forward | 19:05 |
| fungi | okay, no sweat. we had a fallback plan for now anyway, i think? | 19:05 |
| pabelanger | I just don't want to update up a SRU bug and leave it to bitrot | 19:05 |
| pabelanger | ya, we are running a manual patch to lists.o.o today | 19:05 |
| pabelanger | fallback, we could do our own PPA if needed | 19:05 |
| pabelanger | or move to xenial | 19:06 |
| jeblair | and i think it's fixed in xenial | 19:06 |
| pabelanger | yes, xenial is okay | 19:06 |
| fungi | does that get reverted if unattended-upgrades updates the mailman package on us (for a security fix or the like)? | 19:06 |
| pabelanger | fungi: I believe so | 19:06 |
| jeblair | yes | 19:06 |
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| fungi | okay, so this steps up the priority to update the listserv from trusty to xenial i guess | 19:06 |
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| jeblair | fungi: ++ | 19:06 |
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| jeblair | i'm on board to reprise my role from last time | 19:07 |
| clarkb | I guess security fixes bypass the sru process ya? | 19:07 |
| fungi | jeblair: want someone else to draft the server upgrade plan this time? | 19:07 |
| pabelanger | cool, upgrade to xenial is likely our best option I think | 19:07 |
| clarkb | (eg it is possible for a patch like that to come in that doesn't include pabelanger's patch to fix the bug) | 19:08 |
| pabelanger | clarkb: yes, it looks that way | 19:08 |
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| jeblair | fungi: either way; given my etherpad from last time, it's probably not too hard for someone else to do it. if no one else wants to, i can. | 19:08 |
| fungi | i'm resisting the temptation to volunteer myself for yet one more thing... any takers? | 19:09 |
| bkero | I can give the upgrade a shot, although will likely have many questions. | 19:10 |
| bkero | Unless this would be something better for an infra-core to handle. | 19:10 |
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| fungi | bkero: want to start by adapting jeblair's previous etherpad contents? | 19:10 |
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| fungi | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/lists.o.o-trusty-upgrade | 19:11 |
| bkero | fungi: Sure | 19:11 |
| clarkb | ya some things like ext4 upgrade won't be necessary | 19:11 |
| fungi | #action bkero draft an upgrade plan for lists.o.o to xenial | 19:11 |
| jeblair | do we want to give bkero a snapshot of lists.o.o to work from? | 19:11 |
| fungi | i would have no problem snapshotting the current server and adding an account/sshkey for him on that | 19:12 |
| clarkb | wfm | 19:12 |
| clarkb | I can help get a snapshot done since I did that last time | 19:12 |
| fungi | we'll obviously want to follow our earlier disable/enable steps for stuff around teh snapshot creation so the snapshot isn't booted spewing duplicate e-mails | 19:13 |
| clarkb | jeblair: we want ot doctor the base image before doing that right? | 19:13 |
| clarkb | to disable services? | 19:13 |
| clarkb | ya that | 19:13 |
| jeblair | ++ | 19:13 |
| clarkb | though likely not today as I am going to try and get shade out the door and nodepool upgraded so that citycloud can run multinode jobs | 19:13 |
| clarkb | but tomorrow I can likely do this | 19:13 |
| bkero | Sounds good. I'll have time to tackle this tomorrow and Thursday evening. | 19:14 |
| mordred | yes. we're going to get that out the door if it kills me | 19:14 |
| mordred | (we got a bug report this morning that I'm squeezing the fix for in because I'm a bad person) | 19:14 |
| rockyg | Bad mordred! Bad dog! | 19:15 |
| * mordred hides | 19:15 | |
| jeblair | mordred: always trying to get the fix in | 19:15 |
| Shrews | mordred: and just approved the last of those | 19:16 |
| mordred | Shrews: thank you | 19:16 |
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| fungi | clarkb to add citycloud to nodepool | 19:17 |
| fungi | #link http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/nodepool-city-cloud City Cloud nodepool utilization graphs | 19:17 |
| fungi | (and there was much rejoicing) | 19:17 |
| pabelanger | Yay | 19:17 |
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| clarkb | there are/were two hiccups with this | 19:17 |
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| fungi | one minor but annoying issue still outstanding in one of their regions which looks like a bug/misconfiguration at this point i guess | 19:18 |
| clarkb | first one was missing flavor in the La1 region which I sent email about and they corrected | 19:18 |
| clarkb | the second is we sometimes get multiple private IP addrs assigned to isntances which breaks in two different ways. The first is if nodepool writes the non working private ip to the private ip list on the instance then multinode breaks. The shade stuff I mention above should address this by using the private ip address associated with the floating IP address | 19:19 |
| clarkb | the second way this breaks is if the floating IP address is attached to the non working private IP then nodepool fails to ssh in and deletes the node and tries again | 19:19 |
| fungi | which is probably accounting for most of the hits on that error node launch attempts graph too, i would assume | 19:19 |
| clarkb | I've sent email to citycloud with example instances and info on this in hopes they can track down why this is happening | 19:19 |
| clarkb | pabelanger helped track down the second way this breaks so thanks | 19:19 |
| clarkb | fungi: ya | 19:20 |
| jeblair | 2.1 and 2.2 both seem like either one or two openstack bugs, yes? i guess we're expecting them to confirm that? | 19:20 |
| pabelanger | Ya, nodepool debug script wins again | 19:20 |
| clarkb | jeblair: I think its the same underlying bug in openstack or their deployment yes. Hoping they can fix/confirm | 19:20 |
| pabelanger | does shade pick the private IP to attach the FIP too? | 19:21 |
| pabelanger | or is that openstack | 19:21 |
| mordred | pabelanger: yes | 19:21 |
| mordred | pabelanger: (it depends) | 19:21 |
| clarkb | being a private IP though shade has no way of knowing which one is "correct" | 19:21 |
| pabelanger | right | 19:21 |
| clarkb | so there isn't much it can do there other than assume the floating IP one will work | 19:22 |
| mordred | pabelanger: if there is only one fixed ip on a server, openstack picks. if there is more than one, the user (or shade) has to tell openstack which to use | 19:22 |
| mordred | there are _some_ ways to infer the correct one, which shade does | 19:22 |
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| mordred | but if those don't work there is an occ config option the user can set | 19:22 |
| mordred | or be explicit in the create_server call | 19:22 |
| clarkb | in this case they are both on the same network though | 19:22 |
| pabelanger | I wonder if it is always the 2nd private IP that ends up working | 19:22 |
| clarkb | so the only thing differentiating is the ip address and thats a toss up without actually see which got dhcped on the VM | 19:23 |
| clarkb | pabelanger: it could be though I don't know how the are ordered if at all | 19:23 |
| mordred | clarkb: but so far the one with the same mac as the fip seems to be correct, right? | 19:23 |
| clarkb | mordred: for the multinode job case yes, because in order to get that far the fip had to work | 19:23 |
| mordred | the fact that the first one has a different mac from the mac on the server is the thing that makes me think something is extra broke | 19:23 |
| clarkb | mordred: but we have ssh failures in nodepool that pabelanger has tracked back to the fip being attached to the wrong private ip | 19:24 |
| mordred | clarkb: oh - ah - right | 19:24 |
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| pabelanger | clarkb: ya, it seems when FIP attaches to 2nd private IP, it works | 19:24 |
| clarkb | also we don't get 2 private IPs on every server | 19:24 |
| mordred | soyah - nothing we can do about that shade-side | 19:24 |
| pabelanger | all the working servers now, are on private IP2 | 19:24 |
| clarkb | its all very weird, hoping the cloud can clarify | 19:24 |
| clarkb | pabelanger: interesting | 19:25 |
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| fungi | and it looked like they were always adjacent addresses (at least in the examples i saw) | 19:25 |
| clarkb | anyways we don't have to spend much more time on this. Cloud is in use, once servers boot and nodepool sshes we should be fine (especially after shade is released) | 19:25 |
| mordred | ++ | 19:25 |
| jeblair | clarkb: thanks, and thanks for the update | 19:25 |
| fungi | thanks clarkb, pabelanger! | 19:25 |
| jeblair | pabelanger: ^ | 19:25 |
| fungi | #topic Specs approval: PROPOSED Add nodepool drivers spec (jeblair) | 19:26 |
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| fungi | #link https://review.openstack.org/461509 "Nodepool Drivers" spec proposal | 19:26 |
| jeblair | i proposed a thing | 19:26 |
| jeblair | this is pretty high level | 19:27 |
| fungi | looks like it's gone through some review/iteration at this point | 19:27 |
| jeblair | basically, some folks showed up and wanted to start working on the static node support in nodepool | 19:27 |
| jeblair | this spec lays out an approach for doing that as well as laying the groundwork for future expansion for other non-openstack providers | 19:27 |
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| jeblair | i think we've circulated it around the folks interested in that area, so i think it's ready for a vote | 19:28 |
| fungi | awesome | 19:29 |
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| fungi | #info The "Nodepool Drivers" spec is open for Infra Council voting until 19:00 UTC Thursday, May 25 | 19:30 |
| fungi | that cool? | 19:30 |
| clarkb | it being that late in the year is not cool | 19:30 |
| jeblair | cool. cool. | 19:30 |
| clarkb | where did the last 5 months go | 19:30 |
| fungi | clarkb: yeah, i don't know where the first half of the year went | 19:31 |
| fungi | thanks jeblair! this will be awesome to have working | 19:31 |
| fungi | #topic Priority Efforts | 19:31 |
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| fungi | nothing called out specifically here, though the spec above is related to the zuulv3 work | 19:32 |
| fungi | #topic Old general ML archive import (fungi) | 19:32 |
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| fungi | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/lists.o.o-openstack-archive-import Mainte | 19:32 |
| fungi | #undo | 19:32 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/lists.o.o-openstack-archive-import | 19:32 |
| fungi | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/lists.o.o-openstack-archive-import Maintenance plan for old general ML archive import | 19:32 |
| fungi | (not sure where that stray newline came from) | 19:32 |
| fungi | anyway, repeat from about a month ago when i said i'd punt this maintenance until after the summit | 19:33 |
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| fungi | we're in the middle of a few dead weeks in the release schedule | 19:34 |
| jeblair | lgtm. i think this is fine to do either before or after the xenial upgrade. just not during. :) | 19:34 |
| fungi | #link https://releases.openstack.org/pike/schedule.html Pike Release Schedule | 19:34 |
| fungi | so, yeah, this seems like a good time to go ahead with it | 19:34 |
| fungi | just means some (brief) downtime for the listserv | 19:34 |
| jeblair | count me in as standby help. | 19:35 |
| fungi | and to have some volunteers on hand to visually inspect the archive before we start allowing new messages into the list | 19:35 |
| fungi | thanks jeblair! | 19:35 |
| fungi | i'm probably fine doing it late utc on friday (20:00 utc or later) | 19:36 |
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| fungi | have an appointment on the mainland earlier in the day so won't be around until then | 19:36 |
| pabelanger | should be able to help also | 19:36 |
| clarkb | ok, I'll be around on friday as well | 19:36 |
| jeblair | 2000 fri wfm | 19:36 |
| fungi | awesome, i'll send an announcement after the tc meeting | 19:37 |
| fungi | #info The mailman services on lists.openstack.org will be offline for about an hour on Friday, May 26 starting at 20:00 UTC | 19:37 |
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| fungi | refreshing the agenda and seeing no other last-minute additions... | 19:38 |
| fungi | #topic Open discussion | 19:38 |
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| fungi | don't all talk at once now ;) | 19:39 |
| pabelanger | nb03.o.o is online (and xenial). However, we are at volume quota for vexxhost, waiting for feedback on how to proceed from vexxhost | 19:39 |
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| clarkb | osic is running at max servers of zero right now | 19:39 |
| clarkb | we are told that we should get access to the cloud once dns and ssl are sorted | 19:39 |
| jeblair | folks should expect to see another zuulv3 email update soon | 19:39 |
| jeblair | pabelanger: how is volume quota related? | 19:40 |
| jeblair | pabelanger: (did you mean image quota?) | 19:40 |
| fungi | we have a 1tb cinder volume attached to nb01 and nb02 | 19:40 |
| pabelanger | we only have 200GB HDD for server, we usually mount a 1TB for diskimage builder | 19:41 |
| fungi | at /opt | 19:41 |
| jeblair | ooooh got it | 19:41 |
| clarkb | since we have multiple copies of images and multiple images and multiple formats that all adds up | 19:41 |
| clarkb | also the scratch space and cache for dib | 19:41 |
| fungi | we could _probably_ get by with 0.5tb in there... nb01 is using 261gb and nb02 185gb | 19:41 |
| pabelanger | ya, since feature/zuulv3 branch, the storage has been much lower | 19:42 |
| pabelanger | mostly because we are not leaking things :) | 19:42 |
| clarkb | and we've split the image storage across multiple nodes | 19:42 |
| pabelanger | that too | 19:42 |
| clarkb | also we stopped rawing | 19:43 |
| clarkb | so lots of good improvements | 19:43 |
| fungi | so maybe 0.5tb is plenty, but regardless we have little/no volume quota in that tenant currently? | 19:43 |
| pabelanger | ya, we are over quota atm | 19:44 |
| fungi | what else do we have in there besides planet01? | 19:44 |
| pabelanger | old mirror | 19:45 |
| pabelanger | for nodepool | 19:45 |
| fungi | (which isn't using cinder afaict) | 19:45 |
| clarkb | it may actually be using it | 19:45 |
| clarkb | its possible you could remove the mirror and its volume to reclaim that quota | 19:45 |
| fungi | i meant planet01 isn't | 19:45 |
| fungi | but yeah, we can delete that mirror server | 19:45 |
| fungi | since we stopped trying to use vexxhost for nodepool nodes | 19:46 |
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| pabelanger | k | 19:46 |
| pabelanger | I was using it to debug some apache proxy caching stuff | 19:46 |
| fungi | and hopefully that frees you up to push forward on the nb03 build | 19:46 |
| fungi | oh, well you could also just unmount and detach the cinder volume in that case | 19:46 |
| clarkb | pabelanger: we can always redeploy one without a volume for that sort of testing | 19:46 |
| clarkb | or that | 19:46 |
| pabelanger | the issue is plant is using 200GB volume | 19:46 |
| fungi | and then just delete the volume not the server | 19:46 |
| pabelanger | and our quota is 100GB | 19:47 |
| pabelanger | sorry, have to run openstack commands again to confirm | 19:47 |
| pabelanger | VolumeSizeExceedsAvailableQuota: Requested volume or snapshot exceeds allowed gigabytes quota. Requested 1024G, quota is 1000G and 200G has been consumed. (HTTP 413) (Request-ID: req-2ea6e088-f9cd-4e71-b635-901ee212f7f8) | 19:47 |
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| fungi | yeah, that's a 200gb volume on the mirror server | 19:47 |
| pabelanger | sorry, I am not sure what our quota is | 19:49 |
| pabelanger | /faceplam | 19:49 |
| pabelanger | 100GB :) | 19:49 |
| pabelanger | so, we could do 500GB volume | 19:49 |
| pabelanger | 1000* | 19:49 |
| pabelanger | I am going to stop typing now | 19:49 |
| fungi | yeah, that ought to be plenty for now | 19:49 |
| clarkb | yup 500GB seems fine. | 19:50 |
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| pabelanger | k, I'll do 500GB | 19:51 |
| fungi | and as for the other 200gb, confirmed as suspected: | 19:51 |
| fungi | | 17eeb39d-c6de-4e32-8c08-26cf3592a22c | mirror.ca-ymq-1.vexxhost.openstack.org/main02 | in-use | 200 | Attached to mirror.ca-ymq-1.vexxhost.openstack.org on /dev/vdc | | 19:51 |
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| fungi | okay, well if there's nothing else, that concludes this week's installment! | 19:55 |
| fungi | thanks everyone | 19:55 |
| fungi | #endmeeting | 19:55 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 23 19:55:46 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:55 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2017/infra.2017-05-23-19.02.html | 19:55 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2017/infra.2017-05-23-19.02.txt | 19:55 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2017/infra.2017-05-23-19.02.log.html | 19:55 |
| jeblair | 5 minutes to spend deciding what to do in the next 5 minutes! | 19:56 |
| clarkb | I need to make a sandwich | 19:56 |
| fungi | next up, technical committee... a five-part indulgence in song and dance | 19:56 |
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