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| ekcs | time for congress meeting thinrichs aimeeu ramineni masahito | 00:01 |
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| ekcs | #startmeeting congressteammeeting | 00:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Apr 27 00:01:56 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ekcs. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 00:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 00:01 |
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| aimeeu | Hi ekcs - on mobile heading out on vacation | 00:02 |
| ekcs | hi all. as usual, topics are kept here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/congress-meeting-topics | 00:02 |
| thinrichs | Hi all | 00:02 |
| ekcs | not a lot there right now. feel free to take a moment and add your topics =) | 00:02 |
| ekcs | hi aimeeu ! that's great enjoy your vacation! | 00:03 |
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| masahito | sorry, late. | 00:06 |
| ekcs | np! topics kept here as usual. https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/congress-meeting-topics | 00:06 |
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| ekcs | ok let's get started then. | 00:07 |
| ekcs | #topic policy library | 00:07 |
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| ekcs | We had a lively discussion last week, with many different visions of policy library. I've incorporated some of that into the spec, especially the discussion of alternatives. | 00:08 |
| ekcs | is there anything to talk about here? | 00:08 |
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| ekcs | One thing of potential interest: | 00:10 |
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| ekcs | when creating a policy including rules | 00:11 |
| ekcs | The policy engine rule insert code would require some careful | 00:11 |
| ekcs | reworking to ensure policy creation with rules is transactional. That is, | 00:11 |
| ekcs | if insertion fails at the third rule (say because of cross-policy | 00:11 |
| ekcs | recursion), the first and second rule insertions are undone without having | 00:11 |
| ekcs | caused any effect (triggered actions or altered query answers). | 00:11 |
| ekcs | some care will be needed to make sure the different locks we have going on don't interfere. | 00:12 |
| ekcs | anyway. let's move on if there isn't much to talk about now. | 00:12 |
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| thinrichs | ekcs: one question | 00:13 |
| ekcs | yup. | 00:13 |
| thinrichs | Is the implementation wrapping a transactional boundary for insertion into the DB? | 00:14 |
| thinrichs | Or is the transaction done at a higher level? | 00:14 |
| thinrichs | I guess we can't really do it at a higher-level than the DB. | 00:14 |
| ekcs | there are two parts. | 00:14 |
| ekcs | 1 is the transactional boundary in DB, that makes sure other instances of the policy engine don't load a partially inserted policy (rules) | 00:15 |
| ekcs | 2 has nothing to do with DB. it's within the policy engine itself. | 00:15 |
| ekcs | the current flow for inserting rule is insert into engine first. if succeed, then write to DB. | 00:15 |
| thinrichs | Sorry—reading through your 2 main things section in the spec now | 00:16 |
| ekcs | because some of the checks for rule insertion must be done in engine. | 00:16 |
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| thinrichs | Could there be a race if 2 policies are recursive? | 00:18 |
| thinrichs | PE1 loads policy1 into engine; PE2 loads policy2 into engine and into DB; PE1 (having found no recursion) writes policy1 to DB. | 00:18 |
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| ekcs | btw triggers are complicated because I think the triggers are handled on rule insertion. | 00:18 |
| thinrichs | Right | 00:19 |
| thinrichs | Is recursion the thing that's complicating everything? | 00:19 |
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| ekcs | The race issue I think is handled by DB locking already in place. | 00:20 |
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| ekcs | at the very beginning of inserting a new rule, policy engine aquires a DB lock to prevent any other changes in the mean time. then syncs to make sure in-mem state is the same as DB state before continuing. | 00:21 |
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| thinrichs | So it locks the duration of the insert. Not sure how expensive that'll be. Maybe large policy inserts are infrequent. | 00:22 |
| ekcs | recursion is one thing. but I'm not totally clear right now on all the things that may cause a rule insert to fail at the policy engine level. | 00:22 |
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| ekcs | right. basically we're saying rule inserts can have high latency. expect that. | 00:24 |
| ekcs | won't affect query performance. | 00:24 |
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| ekcs | thinking about triggers again, I don't think we can somehow lock out the trigger activation. I think we need to write some new code that does all the policy-engine level checks for a set of rules, before inserting any of them. | 00:25 |
| ekcs | I'll need to dig into the code some more to say for sure. | 00:26 |
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| thinrichs | I remember that trigger code was tricky to get right | 00:27 |
| thinrichs | Happy to jump on a call if that helps | 00:28 |
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| ekcs | thanks. yea unfortunately the engine was never designed to handle transaction insert of a set of rules. so it may take some serious reworking to get right. | 00:29 |
| ekcs | in fact, I realized that we have a problem even today. | 00:30 |
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| ekcs | when we delete a policy, the rules are deleted one at a time. | 00:30 |
| ekcs | so say I have a policy with two rules: | 00:31 |
| ekcs | good(x) :- .... | 00:31 |
| ekcs | execute[...] :- thing(x), not good(x) | 00:31 |
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| ekcs | when the first rule is deleted but before the second rule is deleted, I think an 'false' execution can trigger. | 00:32 |
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| ekcs | will need to study the trigger code to be sure. | 00:32 |
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| ekcs | anyway should we move on? | 00:34 |
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| thinrichs | Yep | 00:35 |
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| ekcs | ok then. | 00:36 |
| ekcs | #topic PTG | 00:36 |
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| ekcs | ok not much to say here. but as mention before it's scheduled for sep 11-15 in denver. | 00:36 |
| ekcs | we need to decide in may whether we want to hold sessions there. | 00:36 |
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| ekcs | ok then. | 00:38 |
| ekcs | #topic open discussions | 00:38 |
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| ekcs | anything else we want to talk about? | 00:38 |
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| ekcs | hi ramineni_ | 00:39 |
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| ramineni_ | hi ekcs.. sorry im late .. | 00:40 |
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| ekcs | np =) | 00:40 |
| ramineni_ | ekcs: so any discussion on gate issues? | 00:41 |
| ekcs | oh right almost forgot. | 00:41 |
| ekcs | #topic gate failure | 00:41 |
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| ekcs | so many of our tempest tests have been failing. | 00:42 |
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| ekcs | I haven't looked very deeply, but it seems like transport related issue maybe. | 00:42 |
| ramineni_ | ekcs: none of the datasource service is starting actually | 00:42 |
| ekcs | oh I see. | 00:42 |
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| ekcs | any idea why? | 00:43 |
| ramineni_ | ekcs: http://logs.openstack.org/38/458038/1/check/gate-congress-dsvm-api-mysql-ubuntu-xenial/2507afe/logs/screen-congress-datasources.txt.gz | 00:44 |
| ramineni_ | ekcs: i noticed while devstack patch is failing , first thought its related to my patch, then i noticed its failing on every patch | 00:44 |
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| ramineni_ | ekcs: not usre, if any change in keystone or somthing | 00:45 |
| ramineni_ | ekcs: ill look into it more deeply today, if anyone havent looked into it yet | 00:46 |
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| ekcs | I'm a little confused. | 00:46 |
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| ekcs | oh nvm I get it. | 00:47 |
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| ekcs | ok so yea guess we'll have to figure out what changed. | 00:47 |
| ramineni_ | ekcs: yes | 00:47 |
| ekcs | let's share things we find (ML maybe?) as we go. so it may help others make progress. | 00:48 |
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| ramineni_ | ekcs: sure | 00:48 |
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| ekcs | anyway keystone seems like the prime suspect. Cuz they all fail with failing to connect to keystone. | 00:50 |
| ekcs | ConnectFailure: Unable to establish connection to http://104.239.192.246:5000/v3/auth/tokens | 00:50 |
| ramineni_ | ekcs: ya, not sure why, all services seem to be up | 00:51 |
| ekcs | ramineni_, right. | 00:52 |
| ekcs | ok anything else on gate failure or other topics? | 00:52 |
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| ekcs | ok let's wrap up a few minutes early then if there isn't more to discuss. | 00:54 |
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| ekcs | have a great week/weekend everyone! | 00:55 |
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| masahito | thanks! | 00:55 |
| thinrichs | thanks all! | 00:55 |
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| ekcs | #endmeeting | 00:55 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Apr 27 00:55:58 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 00:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2017/congressteammeeting.2017-04-27-00.01.html | 00:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2017/congressteammeeting.2017-04-27-00.01.txt | 00:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2017/congressteammeeting.2017-04-27-00.01.log.html | 00:56 |
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| zhenguo | #startmeeting mogan | 02:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Apr 27 02:00:49 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is zhenguo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 02:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 02:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: mogan)" | 02:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'mogan' | 02:00 |
| zhenguo | o/ | 02:01 |
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| liusheng | o/ | 02:01 |
| zhangyang | o/ | 02:01 |
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| zhenguo | as always, the agenda: | 02:02 |
| zhenguo | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Mogan#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 02:02 |
| zhenguo | let's jump in | 02:02 |
| zhenguo | #topic announcements and reminders | 02:03 |
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| zhenguo | The coming bug smash: | 02:03 |
| zhenguo | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/OpenStack-Bug-Smash-Pike-Suzhou | 02:03 |
| zhenguo | Really happy to see we got 6 mogan guys there :D | 02:03 |
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| zhenguo | maybe 7, luyao, I remember shaohe_feng said JF will send you there | 02:04 |
| liusheng | :D | 02:04 |
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| liusheng | may need to ping them all ? | 02:05 |
| zhenguo | ok, seems luyao is not around, will confirm with her later | 02:05 |
| zhenguo | First Mogan UI panel: | 02:05 |
| zhenguo | #link http://pasteboard.co/99yjyKAoD.png | 02:05 |
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| luyao | zhenguo, hah,i'm here,it seems uncertainty | 02:05 |
| zhenguo | luyao: hah, hope you can go | 02:06 |
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| liusheng | zhenguo: looks a great startup :P | 02:06 |
| luyao | zhenguo, I hope so. :D | 02:06 |
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| zhenguo | hah, ok, let's see have a look at the mogan ui | 02:07 |
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| zhenguo | You can enable mogan-ui plugin when setup devstack env to see, but it not really work now, just added servers Panel and Bare Metal Compute Panelgroup :D | 02:07 |
| zhenguo | Within the Bare Metal Compute, we will add servers, keypairs, and overview like Nova | 02:08 |
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| liusheng | zhenguo: only need to enalbe mogan-ui and horizon in local.conf ? | 02:10 |
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| zhenguo | liusheng: enable mogan-ui plugin like how to enable mogan :D | 02:10 |
| zhenguo | liusheng: yes, and enable horizon | 02:10 |
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| liusheng | zhenguo: ok, thanks, it is better to add a simple description about how to enable it | 02:11 |
| zhenguo | liusheng: sure | 02:11 |
| zhenguo | I will try to make it work before the bug smash, | 02:11 |
| zhenguo | then we can show maybe with a physical env we are working on :D | 02:12 |
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| zhenguo | ok, not much of announcements, anyone else have a thing here? | 02:13 |
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| zhenguo | if not, let's move on | 02:13 |
| zhenguo | #topic task tracking | 02:13 |
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| liusheng | that will be cool | 02:13 |
| zhenguo | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mogan-task | 02:14 |
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| zhenguo | liusheng: hah | 02:14 |
| wanghao_ | hi guys | 02:14 |
| wanghao_ | I'm here now | 02:14 |
| zhenguo | wanghao_: o/ | 02:14 |
| zhenguo | hah, so, let's talk about the releasenotes stuff :D | 02:15 |
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| wanghao_ | sure | 02:16 |
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| zhenguo | when do you think we should add releasenotes for Mogan | 02:17 |
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| zhenguo | as we don't have any release yet | 02:17 |
| wanghao_ | well, I think Pike is good point. | 02:17 |
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| wanghao_ | do we plan to release in Pike? | 02:18 |
| zhenguo | yes, it's really helpful to track what we have done during Pike | 02:18 |
| wanghao_ | yes | 02:18 |
| zhenguo | yes, we should do release | 02:18 |
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| zhenguo | so we should add important releasenotes in | 02:18 |
| zhenguo | only for Pike? | 02:19 |
| liusheng | don't we have a releasenot job ? | 02:19 |
| zhenguo | or what we have done since the project creation | 02:19 |
| zhenguo | liusheng: no | 02:19 |
| wanghao_ | I think some feature before Pike could be there | 02:19 |
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| wanghao_ | since this our first release from Pike, should let's user know what we have done from beginning. | 02:20 |
| liusheng | yes, agreed, and it's better to add a releasenote job also | 02:20 |
| zhenguo | +1 | 02:20 |
| zhenguo | but seems only offical projects can add releasenotes job | 02:20 |
| zhenguo | as it will publish releasenotes to docs.openstack.org | 02:20 |
| zhenguo | like what api-ref job does | 02:21 |
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| wanghao_ | so that ask us to check it manually when reviewing patch. | 02:22 |
| zhenguo | yes, like api-ref | 02:22 |
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| wanghao_ | well, fine with me :) | 02:22 |
| zhenguo | ok, thanks | 02:23 |
| zhenguo | so we will add all releasenotes | 02:23 |
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| zhenguo | not only for Pike | 02:23 |
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| zhenguo | ok, let's see our task list | 02:24 |
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| zhenguo | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mogan-task | 02:25 |
| * zhenguo gives folks a few minutes to review | 02:25 | |
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| zhenguo | I added some new tasks | 02:26 |
| wanghao_ | the red task? | 02:27 |
| zhenguo | wanghao_: yes | 02:28 |
| wanghao_ | ok | 02:28 |
| zhenguo | I have added keypairs support with configdrive | 02:29 |
| liusheng | I can pick one :D | 02:29 |
| zhenguo | liusheng: thanks | 02:29 |
| wanghao_ | Specify neutron port when creating instances, do you mean user have created port in neutron, and then use it in Mogan? | 02:30 |
| zhenguo | wanghao_: yes | 02:30 |
| wanghao_ | So mogan don't need to create it in Neutron. | 02:30 |
| wanghao_ | okay, sounds cool, I can try it. | 02:30 |
| liusheng | wanghao_: I just picked that, but you are welcome to pick it. lol | 02:31 |
| zhenguo | lol | 02:31 |
| wanghao_ | yeah, I see it... :_ | 02:31 |
| liusheng | zhenguo: I will pick another one | 02:31 |
| liusheng | hah | 02:31 |
| wanghao_ | liusheng: haha, thanks God sheng. | 02:31 |
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| liusheng | wanghao_: np architect hao | 02:32 |
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| wanghao_ | change to my name ASAP, lol | 02:32 |
| wanghao_ | ... | 02:32 |
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| wanghao_ | it seems simple that no spec needed. | 02:33 |
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| zhenguo | yes, not need to add spec for such bps | 02:33 |
| zhenguo | wrt specifying neutron port, we should take care of the MAC address | 02:34 |
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| zhenguo | it must be same with ironic node's port mac | 02:34 |
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| wanghao_ | yes, some validate need. | 02:35 |
| zhenguo | yes | 02:35 |
| zhenguo | and for port without MAC, we can update it with ironic port mac | 02:35 |
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| wanghao_ | and port_type should be same too I think. | 02:36 |
| wanghao_ | okay | 02:36 |
| zhenguo | sure, | 02:36 |
| shaohe_feng | zhenguo: Hi, I'm coming. | 02:36 |
| zhenguo | shaohe_feng: o/ | 02:36 |
| liusheng | zhenguo: if specify port when booting a server, does that mean booting server with node specified ? | 02:36 |
| shaohe_feng | sorry for late | 02:36 |
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| liusheng | shaohe_feng: o/ | 02:37 |
| zhenguo | shaohe_feng: np | 02:37 |
| zhenguo | liusheng: if the specified port with MAC address, that means so | 02:37 |
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| zhenguo | liusheng: but if it just a neutron port without MAC address specified, it's not | 02:37 |
| liusheng | zhenguo: port without node MAC specified can use by mogan server ? | 02:38 |
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| zhenguo | liusheng: I mean neutron port instead of ironic port here | 02:39 |
| luyao | a question,what's differences between neutron port and ironic port | 02:39 |
| zhenguo | luyao: aha, ironic port is physical nic | 02:39 |
| zhenguo | luyao: neutron port is logical port, or maybe switch port | 02:40 |
| luyao | zhenguo, attach interface means attach neutron port, right? | 02:40 |
| zhenguo | luyao: maybe this is easy for understanding, ironic port is server nic, neutron port is switch port | 02:40 |
| liusheng | zhenguo: I also mean that, Mogan can only use neutron port with node mac address specified, so if we specifying neutron when booting mogan server, it potentially means creating server with node specified, right ? | 02:40 |
| zhenguo | luyao: yes | 02:41 |
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| luyao | Xinran and I are working on attach/detach interface.I focus on attach .I have a question and need your comment, in nova , if user give net-id and not usable ports, nova will create a port for user, should we copy this pattern? | 02:41 |
| zhenguo | liusheng: maybe we can support neutron port without mac specified, then update the selected node's mac to it | 02:42 |
| wanghao_ | liusheng: that will be same with specified port with node's mac. | 02:42 |
| liusheng | zhenguo: got it, but not sure if neutron has that plan :D | 02:42 |
| zhenguo | luyao: yes, you should create a port, which means you get a port from virtual switch | 02:42 |
| wanghao_ | liusheng: I'll ask hanzhan later :) | 02:43 |
| zhenguo | liusheng, wanghao_: hah, yes, we should ask some network guys | 02:43 |
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| zhenguo | ok, let's move on | 02:44 |
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| zhenguo | besides the new tasks, seems things are moving along nicely | 02:44 |
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| zhenguo | I just moved configdrive and keypairs tasks to Done | 02:45 |
| zhenguo | and prioritized new flavor tasks :D | 02:46 |
| zhenguo | luyao: instance faults is ready now, right? | 02:47 |
| zhenguo | luyao: sorry, I don't get time to review it | 02:47 |
| luyao | zhenguo, yes | 02:47 |
| zhenguo | luyao: so, if the instance is not in error status, we return a None fault_info field? | 02:48 |
| zhenguo | luyao: or just get rid of the field | 02:48 |
| luyao | zhenguo, get rid of the field | 02:48 |
| zhenguo | luyao: cool | 02:48 |
| zhenguo | luayo: I see you update to add api-ref samples | 02:49 |
| zhenguo | luyao: but seems it's better to also add this filed description in the Response section | 02:49 |
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| luyao | zhenguo, ok, i will update it soon | 02:50 |
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| zhenguo | luyao: thanks | 02:50 |
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| zhenguo | ok, other task owners, do you have things to update? | 02:51 |
| wanghao_ | zhenguo: do you plan to merge flavor spec? Or waiting more comments. | 02:51 |
| zhenguo | wanghao_: I can add a POC patch first | 02:51 |
| zhenguo | wanghao_: before land it | 02:51 |
| wanghao_ | zhenguo: Sure | 02:51 |
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| zhenguo | aha, another thing | 02:52 |
| zhenguo | I plan to get rid of instances and instance_types releated stuff in Mogan | 02:52 |
| zhenguo | we will only have concepts of servers and flavors | 02:52 |
| liusheng | zhenguo: yes, I will do that task | 02:52 |
| zhenguo | liusheng: thanks | 02:52 |
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| liusheng | zhenguo: and it is better to merge other changes firstly, since, this may cause many conflicts | 02:53 |
| wanghao_ | cool | 02:53 |
| zhenguo | liusheng: yes | 02:53 |
| wanghao_ | I saw we have flavors already. | 02:53 |
| zhenguo | I will try to clean up all instance types by this week | 02:53 |
| zhenguo | wanghao_: hah | 02:53 |
| wanghao_ | zhenguo: okay, I see, clean up the left. | 02:54 |
| zhenguo | yes | 02:54 |
| Xinran | zhenguo, for the detach interface part, it just need to detach from a specific port, no need to pass the network info right ? | 02:54 |
| zhenguo | Xinran: seems yes | 02:55 |
| zhenguo | Xinran: a port is enough :D | 02:55 |
| zhenguo | ok, anything else here? | 02:56 |
| wanghao_ | Just FYI，spec for managing bms has ready, welcome to review. | 02:56 |
| Xinran | zhenguo, ok thx | 02:57 |
| zhenguo | Xinran: np | 02:57 |
| zhenguo | wanghao_: thanks very much | 02:57 |
| wanghao_ | zhenguo: np | 02:57 |
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| zhenguo | a, liusheng's patch to add a tool for migrate instances from nova to mogan has been there for a long time | 02:58 |
| zhenguo | hope you guys can help to review | 02:58 |
| liusheng | yes, thanks | 02:58 |
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| zhenguo | I don't have a env for that recently, lol | 02:58 |
| zhenguo | oh, it's almost time | 02:58 |
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| wanghao_ | sure | 02:59 |
| zhenguo | we still have another topic | 02:59 |
| zhenguo | #topic open discussion | 02:59 |
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| zhenguo | who's got a thing here... | 02:59 |
| wanghao_ | time's up | 03:00 |
| zhenguo | hah yes | 03:00 |
| zhenguo | thanks y'all | 03:00 |
| zhenguo | #endmeeting | 03:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 03:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Apr 27 03:00:32 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 03:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mogan/2017/mogan.2017-04-27-02.00.html | 03:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mogan/2017/mogan.2017-04-27-02.00.txt | 03:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mogan/2017/mogan.2017-04-27-02.00.log.html | 03:00 |
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| oomichi | #startmeeting qa | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Apr 27 16:00:29 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is oomichi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: qa)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'qa' | 16:00 |
| oomichi | hi, who are joining to the meeting today? | 16:00 |
| clarkb | I am sort of around | 16:01 |
| oomichi | andreaf: is on the air now today | 16:01 |
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| oomichi | clarkb: o/ | 16:01 |
| oomichi | mtreinish: sdague: afazekas: ping | 16:02 |
| mtreinish | o/ | 16:02 |
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| afazekas | o/ | 16:02 |
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| oomichi | ok, let's start a meeting | 16:02 |
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| oomichi | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/w/index.php?title=Meetings/QATeamMeeting#Agenda_for_April_27th_2017_.281700_UTC.29 | 16:03 |
| oomichi | ^^^ today agenda | 16:03 |
| oomichi | from the previous meeting | 16:03 |
| oomichi | "ACTION: andreaf to setup etherpad for Forum session" | 16:03 |
| oomichi | andreaf: is preparing the above and we will be able to see it soon | 16:04 |
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| oomichi | "ACTION: gmann to add periodic job status tracking on bug triage etherpad" | 16:04 |
| oomichi | I tried to reach gmann about this but could not get status about that | 16:04 |
| oomichi | #topic The Forum, Boston | 16:05 |
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| oomichi | We have onboarding forum May 8(Mon), 16:40 | 16:05 |
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| oomichi | I guess that could be like upstream training for new contributors | 16:05 |
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| oomichi | but I am not getting how to make process for this meetup yet, do someone have idea for that? | 16:06 |
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| mtreinish | oomichi: it is, the idea is to get people started contributing to qa projects | 16:06 |
| mtreinish | give them a detailed introduction to the project, etc | 16:06 |
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| oomichi | mtreinish: yeah, we had this kind of meetup in HPE office before | 16:07 |
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| oomichi | maybe we will separate groups into some interested topics | 16:07 |
| mtreinish | oomichi: we did? | 16:08 |
| * mtreinish doesn't rememeber | 16:08 | |
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| oomichi | mtreinish: you made the mid-cycle meetup at HP office when you were PTL | 16:08 |
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| oomichi | mtreinish: I cannot remember the place nam.. | 16:09 |
| oomichi | name | 16:09 |
| mtreinish | I did that a few times (it was easy to organize that way) But I don't remember having one to onboard new people | 16:09 |
| mtreinish | the only time we did that which I remember was in Darmstadt with a combine infra/qa midcycle | 16:09 |
| mtreinish | but anyway this is separate, and not important :) | 16:09 |
| oomichi | hehe, ok anyways it would be nice to have some etherpads how to make it | 16:10 |
| oomichi | another forum is May 11(Thurs), 9:00 | 16:10 |
| oomichi | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/summit-schedule/events/18777/users-operators-adoption-of-qa-tools-plugins | 16:11 |
| oomichi | andreaf: is preparing for it | 16:11 |
| oomichi | do we have items need to discuss Forum at this time? | 16:11 |
| oomichi | #topic Outreachy intern | 16:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Outreachy intern (Meeting topic: qa)" | 16:11 | |
| oomichi | I guess rodrigods's turn for this | 16:12 |
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| oomichi | rodrigods: ping | 16:12 |
| rodrigods | sorry | 16:13 |
| rodrigods | so... | 16:13 |
| rodrigods | this is more a fyi | 16:13 |
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| rodrigods | we are going to have an Outreachy intern that will work to add jobs where keystone will run against LDAP as identity backend | 16:13 |
| rodrigods | once the proper announces are made, i'll introduce the intern to you, probably in this meeting :) | 16:14 |
| mtreinish | rodrigods: ok, cool | 16:14 |
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| mtreinish | rodrigods: that does sound like a good job to add to the gate too | 16:14 |
| rodrigods | mtreinish, exactly :) | 16:14 |
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| rodrigods | so i guess she will be more present in the -qa site than in -keystone :) | 16:15 |
| rodrigods | side* | 16:15 |
| oomichi | rodrigods: good, does he have some patches already ? | 16:15 |
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| rodrigods | let me take a look | 16:15 |
| rodrigods | only general patches, not related to the project yet | 16:15 |
| oomichi | rodrigods: ok, thanks for the info. That is good for us :) | 16:16 |
| rodrigods | oomichi, ++ | 16:16 |
| oomichi | #topic Gate Stability - status update | 16:16 |
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| oomichi | #link https://goo.gl/ptPgEw | 16:16 |
| oomichi | #link http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/gate.html | 16:16 |
| oomichi | the above pages show it seems good status | 16:17 |
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| oomichi | do we have some topics about gate status? | 16:17 |
| mtreinish | oomichi: you should also probably link to: http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/data/integrated_gate.html | 16:17 |
| mtreinish | which shows the failures we're not tracking yet | 16:18 |
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| oomichi | #link http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/data/integrated_gate.html | 16:18 |
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| oomichi | mtreinish: yeah, that seems useful | 16:19 |
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| clarkb | so this was one the things I wanted to bring up. Generally we are stable. There are a lot of failures due to timeouts though. Might be good to have people try to classify them so we can determine if they are slow nodes, slow code, slow tests, bugs, whatever | 16:20 |
| oomichi | clarkb: mtreinish: the page shows only general jobs or including periodic jobs and non-voting jobs? | 16:21 |
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| mtreinish | clarkb: it's kinda hard to do that though | 16:22 |
| clarkb | my understanding is that integrated_gate is just gate jobs for the "integrated" pipeline | 16:22 |
| mtreinish | like how can we tell if the code is slow vs the guest is running on the same node as someone running mprime | 16:22 |
| mtreinish | oomichi: yeah what clarkb said | 16:22 |
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| oomichi | clarkb: cool, that is helpful | 16:23 |
| clarkb | mtreinish: one example would be if devstack takes an hour thats likely a slow node | 16:23 |
| clarkb | whereas random dsvm job with default timeout of 40 minutes is just slow code against to short a timeout | 16:23 |
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| clarkb | (I don't actually know if thats how it will shake out) | 16:24 |
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| oomichi | ok, it would be nice to check this status also every week for selecting which issue should be concentrated anyways | 16:26 |
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| oomichi | #topic Spec reviews | 16:26 |
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| mtreinish | clarkb: maybe, or maybe someone introduced a bad db migration and caused devstack to time out | 16:26 |
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| mtreinish | clarkb: but I agree categorizing them is at least something to start with | 16:27 |
| mtreinish | and we can analyze from there | 16:27 |
| oomichi | +1 | 16:27 |
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| oomichi | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/qa-specs,n,z | 16:28 |
| oomichi | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/443504/ is only active spec for HA testing | 16:28 |
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| oomichi | I put some comments before and it is good to get more feedback | 16:29 |
| oomichi | we can move if not having more items on spec | 16:29 |
| Ak13 | is someone still working on this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/255023/ | 16:29 |
| oomichi | #topic Tempest | 16:29 |
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| oomichi | Ak13: I guess nowbody | 16:30 |
| oomichi | nobody | 16:30 |
| oomichi | Ak13: are you interested in? | 16:30 |
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| Ak13 | oomichi: yes I would be | 16:31 |
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| oomichi | mtreinish: you did put -2 about that long-time ago | 16:32 |
| mtreinish | oomichi: yeah, because tempest isn't in place where it can do what was described in the spec | 16:33 |
| mtreinish | oomichi: and it still isn't | 16:33 |
| mtreinish | I outlined the reasons why pretty clearly in the review comment | 16:33 |
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| mtreinish | and the resources.yaml work never went anywhere | 16:33 |
| oomichi | mtreinish: yeah, I see the point | 16:34 |
| oomichi | Ak13: did you see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/173334/ instead? | 16:34 |
| oomichi | that could be replacement | 16:34 |
| oomichi | I just need to make it move forward | 16:35 |
| * mtreinish is still waiting for oomichi on that one | 16:35 | |
| Ak13 | looking at it now | 16:35 |
| oomichi | #action oomichi update https://review.openstack.org/#/c/173334/ | 16:35 |
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| oomichi | Ak13: that is a little long spec, it would be nice to discuss later after reading | 16:36 |
| oomichi | #topic Tempest | 16:36 |
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| Ak13 | oomichi: Agreed, I will need time to digest it | 16:36 |
| oomichi | Ak13: thanks | 16:37 |
| oomichi | I did bug triage at this turn | 16:37 |
| oomichi | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tempest-weekly-bug-report | 16:37 |
| Ak13 | oomichi: Is it ok if I get in touch with you later with any questions about that one | 16:37 |
| oomichi | Ak13: yeah | 16:38 |
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| oomichi | I just bring #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/455319 for closing a bug more | 16:38 |
| oomichi | the bug status itself seems good, New bugs are only 4 | 16:38 |
| oomichi | In-progress bugs are 50, not so bad | 16:39 |
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| oomichi | do someone have items necessary to discuss Tempest? | 16:40 |
| mtreinish | oomichi: what happened to the bug graphs? :) | 16:40 |
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| oomichi | mtreinish: oh, keen point.. I didn't want to talk about that TBH :-( | 16:40 |
| oomichi | mtreinish: the periodic job was dead in my vacation, and I could not get the data before this meeting | 16:41 |
| oomichi | mtreinish: I will be able to report it next meeting | 16:41 |
| mtreinish | oomichi: heh, no worries | 16:41 |
| oomichi | ok, lets move on | 16:42 |
| oomichi | #topic Patrole | 16:42 |
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| oomichi | do we have discussion items about patrole today? | 16:42 |
| oomichi | ok, lets move on | 16:44 |
| oomichi | #topic DevStack | 16:44 |
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| oomichi | do we have discussion items about devstack today? | 16:44 |
| oomichi | #topic Upgrade Testing | 16:45 |
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| oomichi | do we have discussion items about upgrade testing today? | 16:45 |
| oomichi | I could not know "Rolling upgrade" before the meeting TBH | 16:46 |
| mtreinish | oomichi: oh, I had a devstack thing, but it can wait till critical reviews | 16:46 |
| mtreinish | because it's just a review | 16:46 |
| oomichi | mtreinish: ok :) | 16:47 |
| mtreinish | rolling upgrades was the thing castulo and luzC were working on | 16:47 |
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| oomichi | that soulds cool, thanks castulo and luzC | 16:47 |
| oomichi | wasn't it affected with OSIC thing? | 16:48 |
| mtreinish | yes, it was | 16:48 |
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| oomichi | mtreinish: oh, ok. maybe we need to find more members if we need to keep it, right? | 16:48 |
| mtreinish | yep, but given the lack of general contribution in this space it's probably unlikely at this point | 16:49 |
| oomichi | yeah, I agree. that could be discussed at the next summit, that is soon | 16:50 |
| oomichi | ok, lets move on | 16:50 |
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| oomichi | #topic OpenStack-Health, Stackviz | 16:50 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack-Health, Stackviz (Meeting topic: qa)" | 16:50 | |
| oomichi | someone has items for OpenStack-Health, Stackviz ? | 16:50 |
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| oomichi | #topic Critical Reviews | 16:51 |
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| mtreinish | nothing from me | 16:52 |
| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/435106 | 16:52 |
| oomichi | mtreinish: you can bring yours now | 16:52 |
| mtreinish | that fix is neeed to avoid the gate breakage oomichi introduced last night by approving a newton backport in devstack | 16:52 |
| mtreinish | the sooner we land that patch the better, because we need to sort all the image handling well ahead of the release (otherwise it'll break grenade) | 16:53 |
| oomichi | mtreinish: hehe, yeah I know I did some wrong thing | 16:53 |
| oomichi | ok, let me have it as priority one | 16:53 |
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| oomichi | are there more patches to be reviewed? | 16:55 |
| oomichi | #topic Documentation | 16:55 |
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| mtreinish | oomichi: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/owner:treinish+status:open | 16:56 |
| mtreinish | :) | 16:56 |
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| oomichi | mtreinish: hehe, you need to select important ones :) | 16:56 |
| oomichi | I know everyone wants to say "my all patches are important" | 16:56 |
| mtreinish | I definitely don't say that | 16:57 |
| mtreinish | some of those patches are garbage | 16:57 |
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| oomichi | mtreinish: haha, yeah it is nice to do cleanup at some points | 16:57 |
| oomichi | re: Documentation | 16:58 |
| oomichi | I am not sure this topic TBH | 16:58 |
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| oomichi | do we have some topics about doc thing? | 16:58 |
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| oomichi | #Open Discussion | 16:59 |
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| oomichi | do someone has topics need to be discussed | 16:59 |
| oomichi | ? | 16:59 |
| clarkb | I'm going to try and pick up tls enabled by default in devstack after the summit | 16:59 |
| clarkb | is that something that should have a spec? | 16:59 |
| oomichi | clarkb: I don't think we need a spec | 17:00 |
| mtreinish | clarkb: just flip the switch | 17:00 |
| oomichi | oh, sorry tome is comming | 17:00 |
| oomichi | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
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| clarkb | ok thanks | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Apr 27 17:00:28 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2017/qa.2017-04-27-16.00.html | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2017/qa.2017-04-27-16.00.txt | 17:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2017/qa.2017-04-27-16.00.log.html | 17:00 |
| oomichi | lets discuss more on -qa | 17:00 |
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| dtroyer | Anyone here to talk OSC? | 19:00 |
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| * mordred hands dtroyer a pie | 19:03 | |
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| mordred | wanna hear a funny? | 19:04 |
| mordred | dtroyer: yesterday's occ release actually broke nodepool's gate jobs - but it wasn't that we let an occ bug slip through | 19:04 |
| mordred | dtroyer: the removal of the keystoneclient fallback caused a test in nodepool that should have been failing but was silently failing open to start correctly failing | 19:05 |
| dtroyer | oh? | 19:05 |
| dtroyer | ya, I had a few of those too :) | 19:05 |
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| dtroyer | that's why OSC's -tips job was red for so long | 19:05 |
| mordred | I mean - there was literally no auth information in the test at all - no parameters, no clouds.yaml, no env vars | 19:05 |
| mordred | :) | 19:06 |
| dtroyer | that's exactly one reason I put in the bits to skip validating until much later in the process | 19:06 |
| dtroyer | things you want with no auth aren't done yet | 19:06 |
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| dtroyer | so I just pushed a review to bump occ and osc-lib in g-r to yesterday's releases… go make a note on that if we need to wait a bit: https://review.openstack.org/460711 | 19:08 |
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| dtroyer | anyone else here for OSC? If not we'll skip again | 19:11 |
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| mriedem | #startmeeting nova | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Apr 27 21:00:14 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mriedem. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 21:00 |
| mriedem | howdy pardners | 21:00 |
| efried | o/ | 21:00 |
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| takashin | o/ | 21:00 |
| gibi | o. | 21:00 |
| melwitt | o/ | 21:00 |
| edleafe | \o | 21:00 |
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| hferenc_ | \o/ | 21:01 |
| * bauzas waves | 21:01 | |
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| mriedem | ok we can get started | 21:01 |
| mriedem | #link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 21:01 |
| mriedem | #topic release news | 21:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "release news (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:02 | |
| mriedem | #link Pike release schedule: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Pike_Release_Schedule | 21:02 |
| mriedem | next big thing in the scheduler is the summit in a little more than 1 week | 21:02 |
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| mriedem | *schedule | 21:02 |
| mriedem | :) | 21:02 |
| mriedem | next milestone is p-2 on June 8th | 21:02 |
| mriedem | #info Blueprints: 70 targeted, 65 approved, 8 completed, 11 not started | 21:03 |
| mriedem | #link pike-1 recap and pike-2 focus: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-April/115700.html | 21:03 |
| mriedem | #help There are still some approved blueprints looking for owners: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-April/115899.html | 21:03 |
| mriedem | questions about the release? | 21:03 |
| efried | mriedem I *may* be able to take on that other keystoney one that overlaps with service-catalog stuff. Keep me in mind if no other takers. | 21:04 |
| mriedem | the service token one? | 21:04 |
| efried | yah | 21:04 |
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| mriedem | ok. i think some of that is already done | 21:04 |
| mriedem | but ok | 21:04 |
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| mriedem | #topic bugs | 21:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:04 | |
| mriedem | no critical bugs | 21:04 |
| mriedem | #link check queue gate status http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/index.html | 21:05 |
| mriedem | gate has been ok | 21:05 |
| mriedem | #link 3rd party CI status http://ci-watch.tintri.com/project?project=nova&time=7+days | 21:05 |
| mriedem | i don't have any news about 3rd party ci | 21:05 |
| mriedem | anything for bugs? | 21:05 |
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| mriedem | #topic reminders | 21:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "reminders (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:05 | |
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| mriedem | #link Pike Review Priorities etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/pike-nova-priorities-tracking | 21:06 |
| mriedem | continue updating ^ as your changes progress | 21:06 |
| mriedem | and subteams review things | 21:06 |
| mriedem | #link Forum planning: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Forum/Boston2017 | 21:06 |
| mriedem | #info Start creating etherpads for your sessions. There is an optional template: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-April/115972.html | 21:06 |
| mriedem | the etherpads are linked into that wiki ^ | 21:06 |
| mriedem | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BOS-Nova-brainstorming Forum discussion planning for nova (add your name if you are going) | 21:07 |
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| mriedem | i saw in the ML today that there are going to be some reservable rooms, | 21:07 |
| mriedem | but i don't know if we have space in the schedule for anything that requires that | 21:07 |
| efried | #link https://ethercalc.openstack.org/Boston_Forum_Hacking_Rooms | 21:07 |
| mriedem | or any topics that aren't already covered in forum sessions | 21:08 |
| mriedem | yeah, | 21:08 |
| mriedem | personally i've found i don't have much in the way of free time given the sessions i'm already going to | 21:08 |
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| mriedem | if anyone can think of a major nova issue we need to discuss that isn't already covered in a session let me know | 21:09 |
| mriedem | and we can see if there is a slot we need | 21:09 |
| mriedem | #info Forum sessions: https://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/summit-schedule/global-search?t=forum | 21:09 |
| mriedem | anything about the forum? | 21:09 |
| mriedem | #topic Stable branch status | 21:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stable branch status (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:09 | |
| mriedem | stable/ocata: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/ocata,n,z | 21:09 |
| mriedem | stable/newton: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/newton,n,z | 21:09 |
| mriedem | we're working some fixes through those and then i'll be looking to do a patch release next week | 21:10 |
| mriedem | i also need to check that for novaclient on stable | 21:10 |
| mriedem | i have requested a 1.4.1 os-vif release for ocata this week | 21:10 |
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| mriedem | not merged yet | 21:10 |
| mriedem | #topic subteam highlights | 21:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "subteam highlights (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:10 | |
| mriedem | i'm filling in for cells v2 | 21:10 |
| mriedem | major review focus is on two things | 21:11 |
| mriedem | 1. quotas https://review.openstack.org/#/c/446239/ | 21:11 |
| mriedem | 2. multicell https://review.openstack.org/#/c/458634/ | 21:11 |
| mriedem | a good chunk of the latter has merged | 21:11 |
| mriedem | that's about it | 21:11 |
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| mriedem | edleafe: scheduler? | 21:11 |
| edleafe | Short meeting this week, as nothing contentious was under discussion. | 21:12 |
| edleafe | We got an update on the status of various placement specs and patches, and things seem to be moving along well. | 21:12 |
| edleafe | cdent wished for additional help harassing jaypipes during his upcoming talk in Boston. | 21:12 |
| edleafe | That's it! | 21:12 |
| mriedem | talk(s) | 21:12 |
| mriedem | there are multiple opportunities to ruin his day | 21:12 |
| edleafe | I'm counting you to help with that, mriedem | 21:12 |
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| mriedem | i don't imagine tdurakov is around for live migration updates | 21:12 |
| mriedem | there is a live migratoin related bp that's looking for an owner | 21:13 |
| mriedem | and another that's looking for someone to take over the patches | 21:13 |
| mriedem | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/live-migration-force-after-timeout | 21:13 |
| mriedem | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/live-migration-per-instance-timeout | 21:13 |
| mriedem | api meeting highlights | 21:13 |
| mriedem | i was there but can't really remember | 21:14 |
| mriedem | :/ | 21:14 |
| mriedem | we talked about something for an inordinate amount of time | 21:14 |
| mriedem | on the upside, microversions 2.43, 2.44 and 2.45 are merged now | 21:14 |
| mriedem | gibi: notifications meeting highlights? | 21:15 |
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| gibi | It was a sort meeting this week | 21:15 |
| gibi | Focus is on two things in the subteam | 21:15 |
| gibi | 1) https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+topic:bp/additional-notification-fields-for-searchlight | 21:15 |
| gibi | 2) instance.volume_attach, the patch series starts here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/401992/ | 21:15 |
| gibi | that is all | 21:15 |
| mriedem | gibi: köszönöm | 21:15 |
| mriedem | yeah? | 21:16 |
| gibi | szivesen | 21:16 |
| gibi | :) | 21:16 |
| mriedem | efried: powervm? | 21:16 |
| efried | Great progress since last week. Three ready for final reviews (one waiting for verification to start behaving again): https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/powervm-nova-compute-driver+is:mergeable Once one or two more of those go through, will start in on the others in the series again. | 21:16 |
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| efried | That's it from me, unless any questions/concerns. | 21:16 |
| mriedem | ok | 21:16 |
| mriedem | cool | 21:16 |
| mriedem | for nova/cinder this week, | 21:17 |
| mriedem | Review focus is on the new detach flow: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/456896/ | 21:17 |
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| mriedem | i've got a series up through swap volume, needs some tweaking, | 21:17 |
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| mriedem | others have some patches up for other operations dealing with detach, like instance delete | 21:17 |
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| mriedem | and i think someone (ildikov?) is going to work on resurrecting the attach patch with the new flow that makes everything go | 21:18 |
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| mriedem | #topic stuck reviews | 21:18 |
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| mriedem | there was nothing on the agenda, | 21:18 |
| mriedem | anyone have anything to bring up here? | 21:18 |
| mriedem | #topic open discussion | 21:19 |
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| mriedem | Special scenario/filter tests: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-April/115800.html (hferenc) | 21:19 |
| mriedem | gibi: coworker of yours? | 21:19 |
| mriedem | hferenc_: ^? | 21:19 |
| gibi | mriedem: yes | 21:19 |
| hferenc_ | yes | 21:19 |
| hferenc_ | thx | 21:19 |
| hferenc_ | so in short: I'd like to add some testcases that couldn't be merged to tempest because they require a special environment for testing. | 21:19 |
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| hferenc_ | For me testing the aggregates isolation scheduler filter would be the most important but if it's possible I'd like to add more tests later on. | 21:20 |
| hferenc_ | Sorry if this is not the right time and place to discuss this. I just wanted to shed some light on the topic. I'd appreciate any review. | 21:20 |
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| mriedem | hferenc_: so why can't we test this with in-tree functional tests? | 21:20 |
| mriedem | using fixtures | 21:20 |
| bauzas | wouldn't it be possible to use functional tests in-tree ? | 21:20 |
| bauzas | meh | 21:20 |
| bauzas | jinx | 21:20 |
| Vek | bauzas: great minds think alike, right? :) | 21:20 |
| bauzas | :p | 21:21 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315786/ is something that you need devstack for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315786/ | 21:21 |
| mriedem | oops | 21:21 |
| hferenc_ | It would be ok these with functional tests - i'm also working on that | 21:21 |
| mriedem | i think the scheduler filters could be tested in tree | 21:21 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315786/ couldn't be | 21:21 |
| bauzas | sure thing, we already have some | 21:21 |
| hferenc_ | but functional tests cannot be run against deployments | 21:21 |
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| mriedem | hferenc_: it depends on what you need to test | 21:22 |
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| mriedem | if you're ok using fixtures for running services and a fake virt driver, just to test placement logic with the filters, i think in-tree is fine | 21:22 |
| mriedem | if you're testing actual hypervisor features, then yes you need an openstack deployment | 21:22 |
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| mriedem | we have talked in the past about having a dsvm-integration suite of tests in-tree that relies on a backing devstack installation | 21:22 |
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| mriedem | for testing things like libvirt | 21:23 |
| mriedem | tempest is really about testing the apis | 21:23 |
| mriedem | so https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315786/ doesn't really make sense in a tempest plugin imo | 21:23 |
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| mriedem | i can see a lot of value in a dsvm-integration set of tests in-tree so we could run tests in serial, like then we could test evacuate | 21:23 |
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| mriedem | i guess your watchdog test goes through the api b/c of the flavor setup | 21:24 |
| gibi | so this dsvm-integration suite would spin a devstack but it would run some functional test instead of tempest | 21:25 |
| mriedem | so that could probably actually be a tempest plugin test | 21:25 |
| mriedem | gibi: yes | 21:25 |
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| mriedem | gibi: i think of it like the functional tests in novaclient | 21:26 |
| gibi | is there any example for that in other modules we can copy? | 21:26 |
| mriedem | those rely on a devstack | 21:26 |
| gibi | ohh | 21:26 |
| mriedem | and they run novaclient CLIs against that devstack | 21:26 |
| mriedem | so it's not tempest | 21:26 |
| mriedem | but it's not a fake env either | 21:26 |
| gibi | sounds interesting | 21:26 |
| mriedem | i think we can test scheduler filters using functional tests in tree with fixtures, | 21:26 |
| mriedem | and things like this watchdog action test could be done via a tempest plugin, or in-tree integration tests (like novaclient), | 21:27 |
| gibi | for the placement test, we have some requirement to prove the tenant separation works against a deployment (like user acceptance tests) | 21:27 |
| mriedem | like we'd probably have a dsvm-integration-libvirt, dsvm-integration-ironic, something like that | 21:27 |
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| gibi | so we made those filter tests in tempest to be able to used against a deployment | 21:28 |
| gibi | and we would like to share it :) | 21:28 |
| mriedem | gibi: it's a very narrow and specific deployment is the problem | 21:28 |
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| mriedem | you can get the same thing using the in-tree functional tests | 21:28 |
| mriedem | which run actual services and populate the database | 21:28 |
| mriedem | they just don't use real cinder/neutron/virt driver, but you don't need those for scheduler placement tests | 21:29 |
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| mriedem | for example https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/tests/functional/regressions/test_bug_1671648.py | 21:29 |
| gibi | sure for the functional validation the current functional test env is ok | 21:29 |
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| gibi | but for user acceptance it isn't | 21:30 |
| mriedem | ^ tests that if we fail to build on a compute, we properly retry on another compute | 21:30 |
| gibi | but I feel we wont solve the user acceptance test problem in nova :) | 21:30 |
| mriedem | what i'm hearing is you guys have an internal business process dictating how you do your testing | 21:30 |
| mriedem | which, whatever, that's fine | 21:30 |
| mriedem | i personally feel it's a waste to setup a CI job with a very specific environment and set of filters just to run a single test | 21:31 |
| mriedem | when you can do it in-tree to test the same thing | 21:31 |
| mriedem | if your job could reconfigure itself on the fly so it can test multiple scenarios, that's a different story | 21:32 |
| mriedem | that's what our live migration job does | 21:32 |
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| mriedem | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/tests/live_migration/hooks/run_tests.sh | 21:32 |
| gibi | most probably we want to much as a first step :) | 21:32 |
| gibi | I think we can look into the dsvm-integration thing for the watchdog test | 21:32 |
| mriedem | so maybe we take this to the mailing list, i can dump some comments there | 21:33 |
| gibi | mriedem: sure | 21:33 |
| mriedem | i'm not sure if there is anything you really need from me here, | 21:33 |
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| mriedem | you guys have a requirement and you've delivered on it for your corporate overlords | 21:33 |
| gibi | thanks for the feedback | 21:33 |
| mriedem | in general i'm always happy with more testing, so +++ there | 21:33 |
| mriedem | ok, anything else for open discussion? | 21:33 |
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| hferenc_ | mriedem: thank you | 21:34 |
| mriedem | yw | 21:34 |
| mriedem | alright let's wrap it up, thanks everyone | 21:34 |
| mriedem | #endmeeting | 21:34 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Apr 27 21:34:30 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:34 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2017/nova.2017-04-27-21.00.html | 21:34 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2017/nova.2017-04-27-21.00.txt | 21:34 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2017/nova.2017-04-27-21.00.log.html | 21:34 |
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| yushiro | Hi, good morning(from Tokyo timezone) | 22:01 |
| kevinbenton | hello | 22:01 |
| slaweq | hi | 22:01 |
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| hichihara | hi | 22:01 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 22:01 |
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| ihrachys | o/ | 22:01 |
| kevinbenton | armax, ihrachys: ping | 22:02 |
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| trevormc | o/ | 22:03 |
| kevinbenton | #startmeeting neutron_drivers | 22:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Apr 27 22:03:54 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is kevinbenton. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:03 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_drivers' | 22:03 |
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| kevinbenton | let's go over some stuff that has been approved but is sitting in spec phase | 22:05 |
| kevinbenton | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/neutron-specs+is:open | 22:05 |
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| kevinbenton | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/396297/ | 22:06 |
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| kevinbenton | rfe-approved for this one | 22:06 |
| kevinbenton | but ajo has changed focus IIRC | 22:06 |
| mlavalle | I have been following that one | 22:07 |
| ihrachys | yes | 22:07 |
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| kevinbenton | i think we need a blueprint for this one to track priority | 22:07 |
| mlavalle | In fact, I am listed in that spec to implement part of it | 22:07 |
| slaweq | I think that ralonsoh is now on it (but You should ask him) | 22:07 |
| kevinbenton | mlavalle: can you file a quick blueprint for it that links to the RFE and the spec? | 22:08 |
| mlavalle | kevinbenton: yes I will | 22:08 |
| mlavalle | Just to let you know, I am attending the QoS meeting regularly | 22:08 |
| kevinbenton | ok and i see you're reviewing the spec so it's getting attention | 22:09 |
| kevinbenton | let's move onto the next one | 22:09 |
| mlavalle | trying to fill the void left by ajo and give the a core that follows the regularly | 22:09 |
| mlavalle | them and them ^^^^ | 22:09 |
| kevinbenton | mlavalle: i can help with reviews for the code as well when it comes time for the implementation | 22:09 |
| mlavalle | cool! | 22:09 |
| kevinbenton | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/333993/ | 22:09 |
| ihrachys | I am reviewing that one | 22:10 |
| ihrachys | I think there are several outstanding issues around API uris | 22:10 |
| ihrachys | it made a long way | 22:10 |
| ihrachys | and I think we are close to getting it in | 22:10 |
| kevinbenton | ok, there is one other issue that Igor had reached out to me about | 22:10 |
| ihrachys | at which point kevinbenton will probably work with folks to get them +2s in the repo | 22:10 |
| kevinbenton | the repo | 22:11 |
| kevinbenton | did they get it figured out if the old code was just going to be deleted? | 22:11 |
| ihrachys | deleted | 22:11 |
| ihrachys | minus maybe some scaffolding | 22:11 |
| kevinbenton | ok | 22:11 |
| kevinbenton | ihrachys: can you file a shim blueprint for that one as well? | 22:11 |
| ihrachys | will do | 22:12 |
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| kevinbenton | I'll defer https://review.openstack.org/#/c/456394/ until we are discussing rfes | 22:12 |
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| kevinbenton | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/452677/ | 22:13 |
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| kevinbenton | i need to review that one | 22:13 |
| kevinbenton | nothing the team needs to discuss there | 22:14 |
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| kevinbenton | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203509/ | 22:14 |
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| kevinbenton | i think we're short an approver on this one | 22:15 |
| kevinbenton | it's currently assigned to Rossella | 22:15 |
| yushiro | kevinbenton, yes. | 22:15 |
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| yushiro | kevinbenton, she just asked me 1 question about a result of PTG discussion. | 22:15 |
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| yushiro | I just replied to her earlier this week. | 22:16 |
| kevinbenton | yushiro: ok, have we finally reached a point where we have general agreement on the API? | 22:16 |
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| yushiro | kevinbenton, sure. Regarding an API design, rossella agreed with our one. | 22:17 |
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| ihrachys | I think a more serious issue was re validation in multi driver env, and we stated before that the framework should be laid for that in ml2 (which I don't know whether there were any moves) | 22:17 |
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| yushiro | ihrachys, sure. In my understanding, QoS has implemented a validation logic. | 22:17 |
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| ihrachys | I see yushiro refers to qos patch, but that's not directly applicable to the proposed feature | 22:18 |
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| ihrachys | that would require quite some generalization to make it applicable | 22:18 |
| yushiro | ihrachys, aha. OK. I understand that is not generic approach now. https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/services/qos/qos_plugin.py#L48-L55 | 22:19 |
| ihrachys | so the question here is probably: 1. do we still think that blocking the logging feature for lack of validation is the right thing to do; 2. if so, who works on the validation framework? | 22:19 |
| kevinbenton | ihrachys: i have a qos question | 22:19 |
| ihrachys | I think armax had strong feelings about it in the past. | 22:19 |
| kevinbenton | ihrachys: how do you know which driver will be required to support a policy applied to a network? | 22:19 |
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| slaweq | kevinbenton: in qos validation it checks if each port in network can support rules from such policy | 22:20 |
| ihrachys | I don't remember details. maybe slaweq has an answer? | 22:20 |
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| yushiro | ihrachys, hmm, I'd like to avoid blocking more.. For ex, firstly Logging refers QoS mechanism and fixes logic after same as QoS.. | 22:21 |
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| ihrachys | slaweq, ...unless ports have overridden policies I believe | 22:21 |
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| slaweq | ihrachys: yes | 22:21 |
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| kevinbenton | but what happens if a port is added later? | 22:22 |
| ihrachys | yushiro, if you have a solution for validation for the feature, I don't think we should block on generic mechanism. | 22:22 |
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| kevinbenton | do you cause a binding failure? | 22:22 |
| slaweq | kevinbenton: it also validate on port create event | 22:22 |
| kevinbenton | slaweq: ok | 22:22 |
| slaweq | so it will fail if driver can't support QoS rules | 22:23 |
| kevinbenton | makes sense | 22:23 |
| ihrachys | and when you bind. the idea is not getting into that db state in the first place. | 22:23 |
| kevinbenton | so we will need to do the same here | 22:23 |
| kevinbenton | since port can be associated with sg group before it is associated with a driver | 22:23 |
| ihrachys | right. and I guess there could be some space for code reuse, just not as-is, would need some refactoring. | 22:24 |
| yushiro | ihrachys, currently, I don't have generic solution. Is it necessary during Pike cycle? | 22:24 |
| ihrachys | I think as long as we state that we desire validation as part of the feature, it can proceed, even if it doesn't settle common framework in advance. | 22:24 |
| kevinbenton | i'm okay if we don't have a generic solution and just validate similar to qos | 22:24 |
| ihrachys | + | 22:25 |
| kevinbenton | having two different use cases can make it easier to visualize a generic framework later | 22:25 |
| mlavalle | yep | 22:25 |
| yushiro | kevinbenton, aha, Sure. So, in this cycle, Logging API will refer QoS solution. | 22:25 |
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| kevinbenton | right | 22:25 |
| ihrachys | yushiro, yeah. reuse code where possible. | 22:25 |
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| kevinbenton | yushiro: can you update the spec summarizing our commentary here? | 22:26 |
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| yushiro | kevinbenton, Of course. After that, can we approve one? | 22:26 |
| kevinbenton | yushiro: once rossella is happy with it, I can take over as approver for helping review code and getting other volunteers for components | 22:26 |
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| kevinbenton | reviews are much easier for me once we've all agreed on the API :) | 22:26 |
| yushiro | kevinbenton, I understood. I'll tell her ultra super ASAP. | 22:27 |
| yushiro | :) | 22:27 |
| kevinbenton | yushiro: thanks :) | 22:27 |
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| kevinbenton | ok | 22:27 |
| kevinbenton | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/374506/ | 22:27 |
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| kevinbenton | this looks like rfe isn't approved yet | 22:27 |
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| kevinbenton | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1596611 | 22:28 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1596611 in neutron "[RFE] Create L3 IPs with qos (rate limit)" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to LIU Yulong (dragon889) | 22:28 |
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| kevinbenton | ihrachys: are you familiar with where this one is at? | 22:28 |
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| ihrachys | I haven't reviewed the spec | 22:29 |
| ihrachys | I know what's that about | 22:29 |
| kevinbenton | ok | 22:29 |
| ihrachys | the complexity of this thing would be enormous I suspect | 22:29 |
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| ihrachys | gotta look at proposal | 22:29 |
| kevinbenton | i'll put back into triaged | 22:30 |
| kevinbenton | so we can review with other RFE's | 22:30 |
| ihrachys | I will have a look next week | 22:30 |
| kevinbenton | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/452032/ | 22:30 |
| kevinbenton | this is vpnaas assessment | 22:30 |
| kevinbenton | I'll work with armax on reviewing this one | 22:30 |
| kevinbenton | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/454788/ | 22:30 |
| kevinbenton | this says don't review | 22:30 |
| kevinbenton | so don't look at it | 22:30 |
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| mlavalle | LOL | 22:31 |
| kevinbenton | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/445762/ | 22:31 |
| ihrachys | oh now my eyes, they are burning, why have you sent it my way! | 22:31 |
| kevinbenton | this still needs rfe review #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1505627 | 22:31 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1505627 in neutron "[RFE] QoS Explicit Congestion Notification (ECN) Support" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Reedip (reedip-banerjee) | 22:31 |
| kevinbenton | ah | 22:31 |
| kevinbenton | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/320439/ | 22:31 |
| kevinbenton | I think this needed a new approver as well | 22:32 |
| kevinbenton | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/l2-api-extensions | 22:32 |
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| kevinbenton | ihrachys: i had suggested the author reach out to Jakub, do you know if he is available? | 22:32 |
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| ihrachys | kevinbenton, for doing that work? I really doubt it. | 22:33 |
| kevinbenton | ihrachys: being approver | 22:33 |
| kevinbenton | not implementing | 22:33 |
| ihrachys | yeah, but even then, I know that Kuba will take care about e.g. multiple port bindings, also some ovsfw bits... | 22:33 |
| ihrachys | I don't think he is avail for that | 22:33 |
| kevinbenton | ok | 22:33 |
| ihrachys | you can try to reach out, but I would suggest we don't have resources to make it happen. | 22:34 |
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| kevinbenton | ack | 22:34 |
| kevinbenton | i'll remove ajo from the approver field | 22:34 |
| kevinbenton | so it's clear | 22:34 |
| kevinbenton | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/445771/ | 22:35 |
| kevinbenton | there was an RFE for this i recall | 22:35 |
| kevinbenton | but it's not linked here | 22:35 |
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| kevinbenton | i will -1 and ask to link to rfe | 22:36 |
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| mlavalle | yeah, that's the easiest thing to do | 22:37 |
| kevinbenton | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/236840/ | 22:37 |
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| ihrachys | that smells orchestration | 22:37 |
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| kevinbenton | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1657084 | 22:38 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1657084 in neutron "[RFE]Add time period attribute to firewall_rule" [Wishlist,Incomplete] | 22:38 |
| ihrachys | and it seems like the bug is Incomplete | 22:38 |
| kevinbenton | rfe sounds like similar conclusion | 22:38 |
| ihrachys | which makes sense | 22:38 |
| ihrachys | so be it | 22:38 |
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| ihrachys | let's just -2 | 22:38 |
| kevinbenton | i'll -2 pending RFE | 22:38 |
| ihrachys | + | 22:38 |
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| kevinbenton | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/446111/ | 22:39 |
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| kevinbenton | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1673210 | 22:39 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1673210 in neutron "Enable MySQL Cluster Support" [Wishlist,Confirmed] - Assigned to Octave Orgeron (octave-orgeron) | 22:39 |
| mlavalle | I think he even has a patch with the implementation | 22:40 |
| kevinbenton | yes, i remember reviewing it | 22:40 |
| kevinbenton | I don't think there is too much to discuss as a drivers team for this one | 22:40 |
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| mlavalle | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/446136/ | 22:40 |
| kevinbenton | as RFE indicates it's a few minor fixes | 22:40 |
| ihrachys | I read the spec real quick. does it suggest we reduce the size of .e.g names nad description for all resources?.. | 22:40 |
| kevinbenton | oh | 22:40 |
| ihrachys | line 82+ | 22:41 |
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| kevinbenton | yeah | 22:42 |
| kevinbenton | that will need some explanation | 22:42 |
| mlavalle | it seems like that to me | 22:42 |
| kevinbenton | sounds like we can lose data | 22:42 |
| ihrachys | and break api-ref conformity | 22:42 |
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| kevinbenton | the other problematic thing is in the patch here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/446136/7/neutron/db/api.py@237 | 22:42 |
| kevinbenton | apparently no savepoint support | 22:42 |
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| mlavalle | it would be interesting to see how other projects are reacting to this | 22:43 |
| mlavalle | he has similar patches with Nova, Cinder, etc | 22:44 |
| ihrachys | +, sounds like a cross project thing to handle. there should be some common approach and source of knowledge. ideally, oslo.db folks would come to us and tell what to do. | 22:44 |
| kevinbenton | ok, let's let it sit. i will also continue to ask questions on the patch | 22:44 |
| kevinbenton | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/362008/ | 22:45 |
| kevinbenton | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1561824 | 22:45 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1561824 in neutron "[RFE] Enhance BGP Dynamic Routing driver with Quagga suppport" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Steve Ruan (ruansx) | 22:45 |
| kevinbenton | this is rfe-approved | 22:45 |
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| kevinbenton | but hasn't be reproposed to pike | 22:46 |
| ihrachys | I see lately there is not much work happening on the repo so is it even realistic? | 22:46 |
| kevinbenton | I think i will just abandon and ask to repropose it for pike | 22:46 |
| kevinbenton | it's from IBM | 22:47 |
| mlavalle | he used to attend the L3 meeting, with tidwellr was astill around | 22:47 |
| kevinbenton | so they may have been moved off | 22:47 |
| mlavalle | yeah | 22:47 |
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| kevinbenton | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/388398/ | 22:48 |
| mlavalle | that sounded like being with IBM is a stigma LOL | 22:48 |
| kevinbenton | mlavalle: nah | 22:48 |
| mlavalle | kevinbenton: just teasing | 22:49 |
| kevinbenton | mlavalle: :) | 22:49 |
| kevinbenton | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1633280 | 22:49 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1633280 in neutron "[RFE]need a way to disable anti-spoofing rules and yet keep security groups" [Wishlist,Incomplete] | 22:49 |
| kevinbenton | this is pending feedback on rfe | 22:49 |
| kevinbenton | i'll put -2 for now | 22:49 |
| mlavalle | nothing has really happened since October | 22:49 |
| mlavalle | thats more than 6 months ago | 22:50 |
| kevinbenton | yeah | 22:50 |
| kevinbenton | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391654/ | 22:50 |
| ihrachys | that one also didn't have much traction to say the least. | 22:50 |
| kevinbenton | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1592028 | 22:50 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1592028 in neutron "[RFE] Support security-group-rule creation with address-groups" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Roey Chen (roeyc) | 22:50 |
| kevinbenton | i'll -2 pending RFE approval | 22:50 |
| mlavalle | pretty much the same story, well one month younger | 22:51 |
| kevinbenton | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/392023/ | 22:51 |
| kevinbenton | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1505631 | 22:51 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1505631 in neutron "[RFE] QoS VLAN 802.1p Support" [Wishlist,Confirmed] - Assigned to Reedip (reedip-banerjee) | 22:51 |
| kevinbenton | so this is rfe-postponed | 22:52 |
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| kevinbenton | mlavalle: do you know if anyone is trying to work on this for qos? | 22:52 |
| ihrachys | do we have some seasoned qos contributors like slaweq interested in following it through? | 22:53 |
| mlavalle | kevinbenton: I don't think it has been mentioned lately in the meetings | 22:53 |
| slaweq | no, AFAIR it wasn't discussed on last few QoS meetings | 22:53 |
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| kevinbenton | ok, i'll put a -2 pending rfe revival | 22:54 |
| slaweq | and if I'm right it was not clear what reedip excactly wants there | 22:54 |
| mlavalle | ralonsoh is very thorough following up with the rfe's, bugs and patches | 22:54 |
| ihrachys | there are already dscp marks for prioritization, it doesn't cover all infrastructures, but good enough for some. | 22:54 |
| mlavalle | so if he hasn't mentioned it in the meetings, it's not in any radar screen | 22:54 |
| kevinbenton | ok | 22:54 |
| ihrachys | + for letting it die in LP | 22:54 |
| kevinbenton | that was everything in the open state on neutron-specs | 22:55 |
| kevinbenton | does anyone have anything to bring up in the last 5 mins | 22:55 |
| kevinbenton | #topic open discussion | 22:55 |
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| ihrachys | I think slaweq had something to raise, and I feel like it's worth giving him the chance | 22:55 |
| kevinbenton | slaweq: go ahead | 22:55 |
| slaweq | thx | 22:55 |
| slaweq | I wanted to talk about https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1686035 | 22:55 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1686035 in neutron "[RFE] More detailed reporting of available QoS rules" [Medium,Triaged] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 22:55 |
| slaweq | but I don't know if we will have time now | 22:55 |
| ihrachys | on first sight, it looks like now we are in the business of API discovery | 22:56 |
| slaweq | basically I think that we should change way how available rule types are "calculated" | 22:56 |
| kevinbenton | slaweq: makes sense | 22:56 |
| kevinbenton | slaweq: but is this operator only? | 22:56 |
| ihrachys | slaweq, wouldn't making it just a concatenation of all supported rules be good enough? | 22:57 |
| ihrachys | and then allowing users to hit validation? | 22:57 |
| ihrachys | (more of a strawman) | 22:57 |
| slaweq | ihrachys: exactly that's what I want to do | 22:57 |
| kevinbenton | that sounds good | 22:57 |
| kevinbenton | but if this is user facing | 22:57 |
| kevinbenton | you can't show driver | 22:57 |
| ihrachys | slaweq, but I see supported parameters mentioned in the desc? | 22:57 |
| slaweq | now it get common subset of rules supported by all loaded drivers | 22:57 |
| slaweq | but IMHO it should returns all rule types supported by at least one driver | 22:58 |
| ihrachys | kevinbenton, existing api is definitely user available (assuming ops allowed that in policy, which is not an unreal situation) | 22:58 |
| slaweq | later when rule/policy will be applied to port there will be validation done for this port | 22:58 |
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| ihrachys | slaweq, ok then if that's all you want, maybe remove driver notion from the description? also parameters? | 22:59 |
| slaweq | so that's what I want to change in first point described there and IMO it's quite easy to do | 22:59 |
| kevinbenton | ihrachys: existing api is leaking driver name to users? | 22:59 |
| ihrachys | basically, same API, just different result? | 22:59 |
| slaweq | but there is also second part | 22:59 |
| ihrachys | kevinbenton, I don't think so. it's just a list of rule type names | 22:59 |
| slaweq | and second part is to add new API call to display details of each rule type | 22:59 |
| kevinbenton | slaweq: what is second part? | 22:59 |
| ihrachys | slaweq, maybe split? I am ready to +2 a patch for the first part as a simple bug fix. | 22:59 |
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| kevinbenton | +1 | 23:00 |
| kevinbenton | first part is super easy | 23:00 |
| slaweq | ihrachys: ok so I will propose patch for first part | 23:00 |
| kevinbenton | we're out of time | 23:00 |
| ihrachys | slaweq, so the 2nd part is tricky; it's api discovery, and you suggest to leak cloud infra details (drivers) | 23:00 |
| slaweq | and what about second one? should I write some specs? | 23:00 |
| kevinbenton | slaweq: another RFE | 23:00 |
| kevinbenton | or update this one | 23:00 |
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| kevinbenton | for clear use case and who its visible to, etc | 23:00 |
| kevinbenton | we can discuss next drivers meeting | 23:01 |
| kevinbenton | thanks everyone! | 23:01 |
| slaweq | kevinbenton: ok, I will update this rfe to only second part :) | 23:01 |
| slaweq | thx | 23:01 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 23:01 |
| kevinbenton | #endmeeting | 23:01 |
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| hichihara | Drivers: Please look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1682775 when you have time | 23:01 |
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| slaweq | bye | 23:01 |
| ihrachys | o/ | 23:01 |
| hichihara | bye | 23:01 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Apr 27 23:01:13 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 23:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2017/neutron_drivers.2017-04-27-22.03.html | 23:01 |
| kevinbenton | hichihara: ack | 23:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2017/neutron_drivers.2017-04-27-22.03.txt | 23:01 |
| ihrachys | slaweq, thanks for joining | 23:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2017/neutron_drivers.2017-04-27-22.03.log.html | 23:01 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1682775 in neutron "[RFE] Tag mechanism supports all resouces with standard attribute." [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Hirofumi Ichihara (ichihara-hirofumi) | 23:01 |
| hichihara | kevinbenton: thanks :) | 23:01 |
| daniel_X | wtf is going on here | 23:01 |
| kevinbenton | hichihara: yeah, i'll circle back to RFE's next week | 23:01 |
| mlavalle | slaweq: yeah, it's a little late for you. Thanks | 23:01 |
| yushiro | thanks | 23:02 |
| slaweq | no problem for me :) | 23:02 |
| slaweq | thx a lot | 23:02 |
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