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| gongysh | #startmeeting tacker | 05:30 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 5 05:30:40 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gongysh. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 05:30 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 05:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 05:30 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tacker' | 05:30 |
| gongysh | helo, guys | 05:30 |
| tung_doan | hi gongysh | 05:30 |
| tung_doan | hi all | 05:31 |
| YanXing_an | hi, all | 05:31 |
| gongysh | who are you here for tacker meeting? | 05:31 |
| Zhou_Zhihong | hi all | 05:32 |
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| trinaths | hi | 05:32 |
| gongysh | it seems other cores are all absent. | 05:33 |
| gongysh | #topic agenda | 05:34 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 05:34 | |
| gongysh | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Tacker#Meeting_April_5th.2C_2017 | 05:34 |
| gongysh | as usual, we starts with review stats. | 05:34 |
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| gongysh | #link http://stackalytics.com/?metric=marks&module=tacker | 05:35 |
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| KanagarajM | hi | 05:35 |
| gongysh | we are progressing. | 05:35 |
| gongysh | KanagarajM, hi | 05:35 |
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| gongysh | you are the only one core except me here. | 05:35 |
| gongysh | last week is a festival in China. | 05:36 |
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| KanagarajM | gongysh, oh ! should we skip... i saw sridhar msg on #tacker .... | 05:36 |
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| gongysh | KanagarajM, we have skipped one last week. | 05:36 |
| gongysh | dkushwaha, hi | 05:36 |
| dkushwaha | o/ | 05:37 |
| KanagarajM | gongysh, yeah ! let us wait for some more time , then :) | 05:37 |
| dkushwaha | gongysh, Sorry, I am late | 05:37 |
| gongysh | dkushwaha, we are missing you. I strongly believe you will be online. | 05:37 |
| gongysh | dkushwaha, later better than never. | 05:37 |
| dkushwaha | gongysh, :) | 05:37 |
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| gongysh | Lets move to next topic. | 05:38 |
| gongysh | #topic features and BP | 05:38 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "features and BP (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 05:38 | |
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| gongysh | first is the scheduling bp | 05:38 |
| gongysh | I have received reply from mistral team. | 05:38 |
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| gongysh | the mistral PTL sugguest to use a loop like task. | 05:38 |
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| gongysh | he doest not think cron-like trigger is good for us. | 05:39 |
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| gongysh | so I have to study how the mistral to implement it. | 05:39 |
| gongysh | I hope I will come up with a new spec to use mistral. | 05:39 |
| gongysh | next week. | 05:40 |
| gongysh | so this is a bp I am taking. | 05:40 |
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| gongysh | what do you have in your mind for this topic? | 05:40 |
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| tung_doan | gongysh: Do you think cron-trigger is neef for this bp: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tacker/+spec/vnf-policy-monitoring-worker? | 05:40 |
| trinaths | what is the real usecase for using mistral ? | 05:40 |
| tung_doan | gongysh: if so, i will have a look | 05:40 |
| YanXing_an | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/445543 | 05:41 |
| YanXing_an | I have some blocks before starting coding, listed in the draft spec. | 05:41 |
| gongysh | tung_doan, we will not using cron-trigger. | 05:41 |
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| gongysh | tung_doan, do try using a workflow like this: a task -> a task until somethign, then tack b. | 05:42 |
| gongysh | tack b/task b. | 05:42 |
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| gongysh | tung_doan, for the task scheduling BP, I was introduing zookeeper to do it. | 05:43 |
| tung_doan | gongysh: got it. +1 to go with mistral in the future | 05:43 |
| dkushwaha | gongysh, I have a question, Will it be good to use workflow for loop like tasks? | 05:43 |
| gongysh | but sridar thinks the mistral can do the same thing. | 05:43 |
| gongysh | dkushwaha, I don't know, what is your opinion? | 05:43 |
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| gongysh | dkushwaha, to use mistral to implement our policy long live tasks, I cannot think any better. | 05:45 |
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| gongysh | dkushwaha, we have to try. to do the test. | 05:45 |
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| dkushwaha | gongysh, I am not sure, but may be in corner cases, It can be hard to handle | 05:46 |
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| gongysh | tung_doan, can you do a try on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tacker/+spec/vnf-policy-monitoring-worker? | 05:46 |
| gongysh | tung_doan, you can try to use a workflow to do the monitor-worker. | 05:47 |
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| tung_doan | gongysh: that's something in my mind. I need to look deeply into this. | 05:48 |
| gongysh | tung_doan, ok | 05:48 |
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| tung_doan | gongysh: writing a spec will be good | 05:48 |
| gongysh | tung_doan, then we wait for you result. | 05:48 |
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| gongysh | tung_doan, I think at the same time, you can use a try code to help your spec. | 05:49 |
| janki | o/ | 05:49 |
| janki | sorry got late | 05:49 |
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| gongysh | I mean upload a patch as you are writing the spec. | 05:49 |
| tung_doan | gongysh: need to ping you some time for zookkeeper support | 05:49 |
| gongysh | tung_doan, no, you just forget the zookeeper stuff. | 05:49 |
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| gongysh | tung_doan, use mistral feature to do it. | 05:50 |
| gongysh | if mistral can implement, we will not use zookeeper. | 05:50 |
| gongysh | since mistral is already a part of tacker. | 05:50 |
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| tung_doan | gongysh: got it. | 05:51 |
| gongysh | next BP, YanXing_an , | 05:51 |
| YanXing_an | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/445543/ | 05:51 |
| gongysh | YanXing_an, I have a concern to use a reserved barbican tenant to keep all VIM secrets. | 05:52 |
| YanXing_an | Currently no methods were found to support shared vim if we use the operator's context. | 05:53 |
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| gongysh | YanXing_an, you have said the RBAC, right? | 05:53 |
| YanXing_an | gongysh, yes | 05:53 |
| gongysh | YanXing_an, Lets later use the rbac to share the secrets later. | 05:54 |
| gongysh | YanXing_an, so first forget the shared vim. | 05:55 |
| YanXing_an | gongysh, if so, vim need support rbac too, not shared with all users. | 05:55 |
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| gongysh | YanXing_an, yes. we can introduce RBAC in tacker. | 05:56 |
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| YanXing_an | second. Do we need retain fernet key in local file if barbican is not available in the | 05:56 |
| YanXing_an | deployment environment? | 05:56 |
| gongysh | YanXing_an, Let's keep it for a cycle. | 05:57 |
| YanXing_an | yongysh, ok | 05:57 |
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| gongysh | guys, do you have other BPs to talk? | 05:57 |
| trinaths | my BP for OSC plugin is still in progress. | 05:58 |
| gongysh | trinaths, ok | 05:59 |
| gongysh | if no, lets move to next topic | 05:59 |
| gongysh | #topic bugs | 05:59 |
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| Zhou_Zhihong | wait | 05:59 |
| YanXing_an | @Zhou_Zhihong https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453442/ | 05:59 |
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| Zhou_Zhihong | I've submited a spec patch with an example of block storage. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453442/ | 05:59 |
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| Zhou_Zhihong | Please do a review to help me update the spec. | 06:00 |
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| gongysh | Zhou_Zhihong, it is a newly uploaded patch. | 06:01 |
| gongysh | great. | 06:01 |
| gongysh | https://launchpad.net/tacker/+milestone/pike-1 | 06:01 |
| gongysh | the Pike-1 is nearing | 06:01 |
| gongysh | we have some patches in plate. | 06:01 |
| trinaths | Zhou_Zhihong: the BP still needs further more details. | 06:02 |
| Zhou_Zhihong | For tosca translation concerns toscaparser and heat-translator projects. I still need time to look into the code and update the spec. | 06:02 |
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| trinaths | Zhou_Zhihong: ok | 06:02 |
| gongysh | dkushwaha, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448844/ | 06:02 |
| gongysh | dkushwaha, I think I have dealt with your comments. | 06:03 |
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| diga | o/ | 06:03 |
| diga | sorry got late | 06:03 |
| gongysh | diga, welcome | 06:03 |
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| gongysh | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448466/ | 06:04 |
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| gongysh | this is also related to service robustness. | 06:04 |
| gongysh | do you guys have other bugs to talk? | 06:05 |
| trinaths | tackerclient. | 06:06 |
| gongysh | KanagarajM, one bug for your tenant_id and name uniqueness | 06:06 |
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| gongysh | KanagarajM, it seems you just dealt with creation, you missed the update API. | 06:06 |
| dkushwaha | gongysh, I missed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448844/ , will checked it again. But I i was thinking for another patch/way to handle that issue | 06:06 |
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| trinaths | https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-tackerclient/+bug/1674906 | 06:06 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1674906 in python-tackerclient "failed to update is-default attribute of vim" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Trinath Somanchi (trinath-somanchi-m) | 06:06 |
| KanagarajM | gongysh, yeah for update i have asked trinaths to handle | 06:06 |
| trinaths | KanagarajM: I handled it, please visit, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/449956/ | 06:07 |
| gongysh | trinaths, we are waiting for server part to be merged. | 06:07 |
| KanagarajM | trinaths, i will look into it. thanks | 06:07 |
| tung_doan | dkushwaha: sridhar opened this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/tacker/+bug/1678329 | 06:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1678329 in tacker "Explicitly detect if mistral workflow missing" [Low,New] | 06:07 |
| trinaths | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tacker/+bug/1676074 | 06:08 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1676074 in tacker "Tacker server throws exception when member action contains UPDATE string." [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Trinath Somanchi (trinath-somanchi-m) | 06:08 |
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| gongysh | trinaths, it is just dealing with VIM update. | 06:08 |
| trinaths | gongysh: ok | 06:08 |
| tung_doan | dkushwaha: I think it is nice to have | 06:08 |
| gongysh | trinaths, for tenant_id and name uniqueness, we still need to take care of vnfd, nsd update. | 06:08 |
| dkushwaha | tung_doan, I will check it, I assigned it to myself | 06:09 |
| trinaths | gongysh: okay. I'm updating as per review comments related to the BUG. | 06:09 |
| trinaths | gongysh: I will post another commit for vnfd and nsd update for tenant_id and name uniqueness. | 06:10 |
| trinaths | gongysh: will that be okay ? | 06:10 |
| gongysh | trinaths, ok | 06:10 |
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| gongysh | ok, do you have other bugs to talk about? | 06:10 |
| trinaths | gongysh: only 2 as I posted earlier and the new one just got in plate. | 06:11 |
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| gongysh | jeremy_chang, hi | 06:11 |
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| trinaths | gongysh: I'm working on Pagination bug. but it takes time. | 06:12 |
| gongysh | how is the VNFFG functional test? | 06:12 |
| gongysh | trinaths, I know that takes time. | 06:12 |
| trinaths | gongysh: ok | 06:13 |
| gongysh | YanXing_an, do you have any idea about the VNFFG test? | 06:13 |
| YanXing_an | Jimmy_ye is on business, he is working on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/451827/ | 06:13 |
| YanXing_an | this bug blocks vnffg ft | 06:14 |
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| gongysh | YanXing_an, ok | 06:14 |
| gongysh | I will review it. | 06:15 |
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| gongysh | netx topic | 06:15 |
| YanXing_an | yongysh, he will update the patch soon. | 06:15 |
| gongysh | #topic open discussion | 06:15 |
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| gongysh | we still have some time. | 06:15 |
| diga | gongysh: about tacker api framework, I have some patches ready with new setup | 06:15 |
| gongysh | dkushwaha, what is the progress for NS spec? | 06:16 |
| diga | gongysh: I will push those for review today | 06:16 |
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| gongysh | dkushwaha, are you there? | 06:17 |
| gongysh | ok, it seems he is not here. | 06:18 |
| gongysh | Do you guys have some thing to talk? | 06:18 |
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| gongysh | if no, we can wrap up the meeting earlier. | 06:18 |
| YanXing_an | We have less knowledge about tosca, and process in tosca-parser and heat-translator, step slowly to read the codes, do you have some helpful materials or guides? | 06:18 |
| diga | gongysh: I think you haven't seen my status :( | 06:18 |
| gongysh | diga, I know you are pushing some new patches about API. | 06:19 |
| diga | gongysh: :) okay | 06:19 |
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| gongysh | since tung_doan will take the mistral test job, I will have much time to do review and some book keeper stuff. | 06:20 |
| gongysh | just upload your patches ... | 06:20 |
| trinaths | YanXing_an: you can refer to OASIS tosca specs | 06:20 |
| tung_doan | gongysh: i have not looked into mistral before. need time to understand this :) | 06:20 |
| trinaths | YanXing_an: refer to slideshare or Openstack Summit videos for heat related demos or presentations | 06:21 |
| gongysh | tung_doan, never mind. lets do it together. | 06:21 |
| tung_doan | gongysh: thanks | 06:21 |
| YanXing_an | trinaths, thanks, i will look into these. | 06:22 |
| tung_doan | YanXing_an: good tutorials i think: http://docs.oasis-open.org/tosca/tosca-nfv/v1.0/tosca-nfv-v1.0.html | 06:22 |
| trinaths | YanXing_an: happy to help | 06:22 |
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| tung_doan | YanXing_an: tosca-paser and heat-trans mainly focus on it | 06:23 |
| YanXing_an | tung_doan, thanks | 06:23 |
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| trinaths | KanagarajM: Can I take this forward https://review.openstack.org/#/c/450528/ ? | 06:24 |
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| KanagarajM | trinaths, sure. but let me know what changes you want to make ? | 06:25 |
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| trinaths | KanagarajM: as said before, apart from vim-update, other update changes are done in this patch. | 06:26 |
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| trinaths | KanagarajM: as discussed before, do I need to post another commit on all these changes? | 06:26 |
| gongysh | trinaths, YanXing_an , tung_doan , please pay attention to review. | 06:27 |
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| KanagarajM | trinaths, that patch already takes care of the create part and it can be merged now. for update fn test, its your choice :) either add new commit or use existing commit it self. | 06:28 |
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| gongysh | trinaths, you can do the update part in your own new patch. | 06:28 |
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| trinaths | KanagarajM: gongysh: okay | 06:29 |
| gongysh | ok, now, lets end our meeting. thanks everyone. | 06:29 |
| gongysh | #endmeeting | 06:29 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 5 06:29:22 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 06:29 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2017/tacker.2017-04-05-05.30.html | 06:29 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2017/tacker.2017-04-05-05.30.txt | 06:29 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2017/tacker.2017-04-05-05.30.log.html | 06:29 |
| KanagarajM | trinaths, while adding update duplicate check, pls use existing fn, test case itself like we did in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/450528/ instead of adding new function test case | 06:29 |
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| joehuang | hello | 14:01 |
| Yipei | hi | 14:01 |
| dongfeng | hi | 14:01 |
| hejiawei | hi | 14:01 |
| joehuang | #startmeeting tricircle | 14:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 5 14:01:46 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is joehuang. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tricircle)" | 14:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tricircle' | 14:01 |
| RongHui11 | hi | 14:01 |
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| joehuang | #topic feature implementation review | 14:03 |
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| joehuang | let's have a short review on feature implementation | 14:03 |
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| joehuang | please have a brief description of the progress for the feature your are working | 14:04 |
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| RongHui11 | for Qos spec it is close to +2 and metering spec i will submit in this week | 14:05 |
| joehuang | great | 14:05 |
| joehuang | QoS has been reviewed many rounds | 14:05 |
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| Yipei | for lbaas, already solve the missing lb-mgmt-net in central neutron | 14:05 |
| joehuang | how do you solve the issue | 14:06 |
| Yipei | have some problem with plugging vip to amphora | 14:06 |
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| dongfeng | for me, the async job admin api is committed, but it just an initial version. | 14:06 |
| Yipei | delete the lb-mgmt-net in local neutron | 14:06 |
| Yipei | then create one in central neutron | 14:06 |
| joehuang | to Dongfeng, ok, will review that patch | 14:06 |
| joehuang | to Yipei, good | 14:07 |
| Yipei | and configure the new net and a security group id in octavia | 14:07 |
| Yipei | and it works | 14:07 |
| joehuang | what's the issue for plugging vip | 14:07 |
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| joehuang | could you describe in more detail | 14:07 |
| Yipei | still checking logs | 14:07 |
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| Yipei | just find it today | 14:08 |
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| hejiawei | for metering, the first patch about metering spec can be submit this week | 14:08 |
| joehuang | do you mean to assign the allowed address pair to the amphora port? | 14:09 |
| joehuang | to Jiawei, thanks a lot | 14:09 |
| Yipei | plugging the amphora to the newly created port of vip | 14:09 |
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| joehuang | amphora should have it's own port, and the port will have allowed address pair which contains the IP of VIP | 14:11 |
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| joehuang | ok, maybe need more investigation on the issue | 14:13 |
| zhiyuan | hi, sorry i am late | 14:13 |
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| joehuang | welcome | 14:13 |
| Yipei | yes, i think maybe it is caused by allowed address pairs | 14:13 |
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| joehuang | now we are reviewing the feature implementation | 14:13 |
| zhiyuan | currently i am working on the implementation of the multi-gateway feature | 14:14 |
| joehuang | Hi Yipei, whether the amphora VM has been booted successfully? | 14:14 |
| joehuang | to Zhiyuan, very good | 14:15 |
| Yipei | to joe, no | 14:15 |
| joehuang | Is there any challenge | 14:16 |
| joehuang | for multi-gateway feature | 14:16 |
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| Yipei | the name of the port is octavia-lb-vrrp-1dcca3b0-082d-43e3-ae70-8378d3dad028 | 14:16 |
| zhiyuan | no, the new model can fit our original logic well. but we need to modify the logic for network-router location validation | 14:17 |
| joehuang | to zhiyuan, that's perfect | 14:17 |
| zhiyuan | a cross-pod network is not allowed to be attached to a local router before change | 14:17 |
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| joehuang | so one overlay L2 network can be attached to multi-local router after implementation | 14:18 |
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| joehuang | to Yipei, the port you attached is the VIP port, not the amphora port? | 14:19 |
| zhiyuan | I change the validation condition. A network can be attached to a local router if the regions of the network include the region of the router | 14:19 |
| joehuang | overlay L2 network -> cross pod overlay L2 network | 14:19 |
| joehuang | great | 14:19 |
| Yipei | i think it is not the amphora port | 14:20 |
| zhiyuan | If the router is not local type, we follow the original condition | 14:20 |
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| joehuang | I think the networking topology could be simplified in OPNFV PoC if cross pod L2 network can be attached to multi-local router | 14:20 |
| joehuang | it's up to whether application wants to use such a networking topology | 14:21 |
| joehuang | for centralized router it works, but for DVR it may not work currently | 14:21 |
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| joehuang | for east-west between cross pod L2 network | 14:22 |
| zhiyuan | yes, with the new model, we can attach cross-pod l2 network to multiple local routers | 14:22 |
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| joehuang | it's enough there is only one cross pod L2 network for one project in OPNFV summit | 14:23 |
| joehuang | to Yipei, please go on to fix the issue for VIP port, please discuss that in the #openstack-tricircle if needed | 14:25 |
| Yipei | ok, got it | 14:26 |
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| joehuang | #topic Pike-2 planning | 14:26 |
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| joehuang | hello, as we discussed in last weekly meeting | 14:26 |
| joehuang | OpenStack pike-2 milestone will not fit the OPNFV summit very well | 14:27 |
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| joehuang | we may have to introduce one intermediately release to include features which are needed, or move pike-2 ahead of community milestone date | 14:29 |
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| joehuang | what's your thoughts? | 14:29 |
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| joehuang | and what's to include in this intermediately release? | 14:29 |
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| RongHui11 | i think Qos feature can include in this relaese | 14:30 |
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| zhiyuan | set the release date as the end of the May? | 14:31 |
| joehuang | good, Ronghui | 14:31 |
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| Yipei | lbaas in one region can be included | 14:31 |
| zhiyuan | I think multiple-gateway is esstential | 14:31 |
| joehuang | zhiyuan, it's a little too late to integrate if we release at the end of may | 14:31 |
| joehuang | yes, multi-gateway and flat network is essential | 14:32 |
| joehuang | it'll be great to include QoS, LBaaS | 14:32 |
| dongfeng | I think the async job api can be included if there has one month of time. | 14:33 |
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| joehuang | Beijing Summit will be held on Jun.12 | 14:34 |
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| joehuang | from Jun,12 to Jun.15 | 14:34 |
| joehuang | to Dongfeng, +1 | 14:34 |
| zhiyuan | then around May 7th? | 14:36 |
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| joehuang | There are one week for OpenStack summit from May 8~12 | 14:37 |
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| joehuang | We may have to release before labor day | 14:39 |
| joehuang | if we want to make sure applications can have time to do on-board integration | 14:39 |
| zhiyuan | this deadline is fine for the multi-gateway and flat network feature | 14:39 |
| zhiyuan | not sure for other planning features | 14:40 |
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| joehuang | I counted the work days after OpenStack summit, there are 3 weeks | 14:40 |
| joehuang | it's tight application | 14:40 |
| joehuang | sorry, it's tight schedule for application on board | 14:41 |
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| joehuang | first time to work on multi-site scenario | 14:41 |
| joehuang | for other features, we'll try our best | 14:41 |
| joehuang | we can follow openstack schedule to have pike-2' at Jun.9 | 14:42 |
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| joehuang | if features which are not able to catch the May.1, then can be included in Jun.9 | 14:43 |
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| zhiyuan | ok | 14:44 |
| dongfeng | ok | 14:44 |
| joehuang | how about set the pike-2 on May.2, and pike-2' on Jun.9? | 14:44 |
| RongHui11 | ok | 14:44 |
| dongfeng | fine for me | 14:44 |
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| Yipei | it is fine for me | 14:46 |
| electrocucaracha | ok | 14:46 |
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| zhiyuan | fine | 14:46 |
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| joehuang | the name could be more accurate: pike-1.5 on May.2, pike-2 on Jun.9 | 14:47 |
| joehuang | no conflict with community pike-2 | 14:47 |
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| joehuang | #info pike-1.5 on May.2, pike-2 on Jun.9 | 14:48 |
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| joehuang | #info if features which are not able to catch the May.2, then can be included in Jun.9 | 14:49 |
| joehuang | thank you for the planning discussion | 14:49 |
| joehuang | #topic open discussion | 14:49 |
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| joehuang | other topics? | 14:50 |
| RongHui11 | no for me | 14:50 |
| zhiyuan | no from me | 14:50 |
| Yipei | no for me | 14:50 |
| dongfeng | no for me | 14:50 |
| electrocucaracha | well, the UT for all the commands of the client are there | 14:50 |
| electrocucaracha | ready for reviews | 14:50 |
| joehuang | yes, I saw patches, will review tomorrow | 14:51 |
| electrocucaracha | once they're merged, we can proceed with releasing a stable version of and integrate it with devstack | 14:51 |
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| joehuang | everyone is encouraged to do review | 14:51 |
| joehuang | cool, electrocucaracha | 14:51 |
| zhiyuan | ok, and I can use it in my test | 14:52 |
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| zhiyuan | do not want to use curl anymore | 14:52 |
| joehuang | good idea | 14:52 |
| joehuang | the more we use it, the better it'll be | 14:52 |
| electrocucaracha | :) | 14:52 |
| joehuang | and don't hesitate to report bug if you encounter it | 14:53 |
| joehuang | me too | 14:53 |
| joehuang | : ) | 14:53 |
| joehuang | ok, thank you for attending the meeting | 14:53 |
| joehuang | #endmeeting | 14:54 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:54 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 5 14:54:00 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:54 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2017/tricircle.2017-04-05-14.01.html | 14:54 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2017/tricircle.2017-04-05-14.01.txt | 14:54 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2017/tricircle.2017-04-05-14.01.log.html | 14:54 |
| zhiyuan | bye | 14:54 |
| dongfeng | bye | 14:54 |
| electrocucaracha | thanks, bye | 14:54 |
| joehuang | bye | 14:54 |
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| joehuang | the command doesn't work | 14:54 |
| Yipei | bye | 14:54 |
| hejiawei | bye | 14:54 |
| joehuang | #endmeeting | 14:54 |
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| jungleboyj | #startmeeting Cinder | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 5 16:00:09 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jungleboyj. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' | 16:00 |
| xyang | hi | 16:00 |
| Swanson | Hello | 16:00 |
| jungleboyj | Courtesy ping: dulek duncant eharney geguileo winston-d e0ne jungleboyj jgriffith thingee smcginnis hemna xyang1 tbarron scottda erlon rhedlind jbernard _alastor_ bluex karthikp_ patrickeast dongwenjuan JaniceLee cFouts Thelo vivekd adrianofr mtanino yuriy_n17 karlamrhein diablo_rojo jay.xu jgregor baumann rajinir wilson-l reduxio wanghao thrawn01 | 16:00 |
| jungleboyj | chris_morrell watanabe.isao,tommylikehu mdovgal ildikov wxy viks ketonne abishop sivn breitz | 16:00 |
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| mgagne | hi | 16:00 |
| rajinir | o/ | 16:00 |
| geguileo | hi! | 16:00 |
| wxy| | hi | 16:00 |
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| jgriffith | o/ | 16:00 |
| karthikp | hi | 16:00 |
| hemna | Chewbacca | 16:00 |
| patrickeast | Hi | 16:00 |
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| jungleboyj | Will give everyone a minute to join. Sean is is Tokyo so I am manning the ship today. | 16:01 |
| Apoorva | hi | 16:01 |
| hemna | lord help us | 16:01 |
| hemna | :P | 16:01 |
| jungleboyj | hemna: Thanks for the vote of confidence. :-p | 16:01 |
| bluex | hi | 16:01 |
| tbarron | hi | 16:01 |
| jungleboyj | tbarron: Wow! Thanks for joining. | 16:01 |
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| tbarron | jungleboyj: I usually show up; don't feel too special. | 16:02 |
| DuncanT | Hi | 16:02 |
| jungleboyj | tbarron: Awww. Ok. | 16:02 |
| jungleboyj | Ok, we have a good showing. Lets get started. | 16:02 |
| jungleboyj | #topic Announcements: | 16:02 |
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| jungleboyj | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-spec-review-tracking | 16:03 |
| viks | o/ | 16:03 |
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| jungleboyj | Weekly reminder of review tracking priorities for Pike. Please take a look at those and keep up with reviews. | 16:03 |
| jungleboyj | Also, tomorrow is the cut-off for stable/newton patches. | 16:03 |
| jungleboyj | I went through a bunch of things that were out there yesterday. | 16:03 |
| abishop | o/ | 16:03 |
| jungleboyj | I will do another round today. | 16:04 |
| eharney | i just posted https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453697/ for Newton, seems like a good thing to get in | 16:04 |
| jungleboyj | If there is anything I am missing please let me know and I will get to it todya or tomorrow. | 16:04 |
| jungleboyj | eharney: Tab opened. | 16:04 |
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| jungleboyj | Any other ones that need immediate attention? | 16:04 |
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| eharney | i've been eyeballing the list, it's mostly driver fixes | 16:05 |
| jungleboyj | Ok, if others come up ping me in IRC please. | 16:05 |
| xyang | jungleboyj: we have a few newton backports that need a 2nd +2 | 16:05 |
| xyang | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/452234/ | 16:05 |
| jungleboyj | eharney: I have been pretty relaxed about letting those in. Figure if the maintainers want them...Ok. | 16:05 |
| xyang | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453163/ | 16:05 |
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| jungleboyj | eharney: ^^ | 16:06 |
| xyang | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/451813/ | 16:06 |
| xyang | stable cores, please help! | 16:06 |
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| jungleboyj | jgriffith: If you and/or eharney could look at those it would be appreciated. | 16:06 |
| jgriffith | jungleboyj sure | 16:06 |
| jungleboyj | jgriffith: Thank you! | 16:07 |
| xyang | thanks! | 16:07 |
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| eharney | we can figure this out in #openstack-cinder later, but i dunno why "add replication" is a backport... | 16:07 |
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| jungleboyj | eharney: I will fill you in on that one. Look closer. ;-) | 16:07 |
| xyang | eharney: I can explain to you later, just a small portion of that | 16:07 |
| jungleboyj | A bug fix that went in with that change. | 16:07 |
| jungleboyj | I had them same heartburn when I saw it the other day. | 16:07 |
| jungleboyj | Ok ... Anything else on this topic? | 16:08 |
| jungleboyj | Ok, moving on. | 16:08 |
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| jungleboyj | #topic Updates from Oslo Meeting: | 16:08 |
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| jungleboyj | #link https://review.openstack.org/328692 | 16:08 |
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| jungleboyj | The review above may break the gate for Cinder. | 16:09 |
| jungleboyj | The change set the method method set_override's parameter enforce_type=True by default, this enforces developer to write valid test cases about config options. | 16:09 |
| jungleboyj | When I get back next week I want to try to pull the change down and see if it breaks us. | 16:10 |
| jungleboyj | Wanted to make everyone aware of the change if there were any immediate concerns. | 16:10 |
| eharney | it won't be allowed by upper-constraints requirements bounds until it passes w/ our unit tests, right? | 16:10 |
| jungleboyj | eharney: I believe that is true. | 16:10 |
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| jungleboyj | I am not sure how much work will be involved to fix things up if it does break us. I think it is mostly busy work that I can tackle. | 16:11 |
| jungleboyj | None-the-less, wanted to share the fact that that change is coming. | 16:11 |
| jungleboyj | Also anohter note from the Oslo team. | 16:12 |
| jungleboyj | With all the discussion and proposals around messaging ... | 16:12 |
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| jungleboyj | I wanted to make note that Ken Giusti is going to be doing a presentation on the different messaging backends and how to set up systems to run with multiple messaging queues. | 16:13 |
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| jungleboyj | May want to look for that in Boston. Sounds interesting. | 16:13 |
| jungleboyj | So, that was what I had there. | 16:13 |
| jungleboyj | #topic Extend Volume Discussion: | 16:14 |
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| jungleboyj | Now things get interesting. :-) | 16:14 |
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| jungleboyj | tommylikehu_: Has brought this functionality back up. | 16:14 |
| mgagne | =) | 16:14 |
| tommylikehu | :) | 16:14 |
| jungleboyj | I am glad as it kind-of fell off the radar with other things going on in the community. | 16:15 |
| jungleboyj | So, tommylikehu brought it up and mgagne has been helping out. | 16:15 |
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| hemna | mgagne, have you tested out the os-brick extend_volume stuff yet ? | 16:15 |
| jungleboyj | mgagne: Shared with following solution with mriedem : | 16:15 |
| jungleboyj | #link https://gist.github.com/mgagne/9402089c11f8c80f6d6cd49f3db76512 | 16:15 |
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| jungleboyj | mriedem: Was willing to consider the solution. | 16:16 |
| hemna | I'd like to verify that it still works :) | 16:16 |
| mgagne | hemna: please take a look at the proposed implementation and see if it's considered "testing" os-brick. | 16:16 |
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| jgriffith | BTW. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/online-volume-extend-extension | 16:16 |
| jungleboyj | Updated spec for cinder: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453286/ | 16:16 |
| hemna | mgagne, can you just put up a cinder WIP ? | 16:16 |
| jungleboyj | Updated spec for Nova: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453272/ | 16:16 |
| hemna | then I can pull that and play with it | 16:17 |
| jgriffith | Some Trove folks had a patch up for this at one point as well (somewhere) | 16:17 |
| eharney | does the proposal from mgagne mostly line up with our discussions on this, or is it going a different direction? | 16:17 |
| mgagne | hemna: sure, will do that by tomorrow | 16:17 |
| hemna | ok coolio | 16:17 |
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| jungleboyj | I think the people with the strongest feelings here are jgriffith and hemna | 16:17 |
| jungleboyj | mgagne: That would be great. I would like to play with it as well. | 16:18 |
| jgriffith | the problem from my perspective has never been the Cinder side | 16:18 |
| hemna | I had hacked the cinder API to allow this while I worked on the os-brick piece a year or so ago when I wrote the brick code. | 16:18 |
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| jgriffith | Nova has rejected the proposals to do the rescan in the past | 16:18 |
| jungleboyj | jgriffith: Agreed. | 16:19 |
| hemna | as of yesterday, I think mriedem was happy with cinder doing a call into Nova to initiate the workflow on the nova side after cinder had resized the volume. | 16:19 |
| jgriffith | and there was some debate around how it should work in terms of notifications to Nova | 16:19 |
| mgagne | jgriffith: the current proposal suggests reusing existing external-events API endpoint instead of introducing a new API call | 16:19 |
| jungleboyj | mriedem: Seems to be ok with making changes if they are triggered from Cinder. | 16:19 |
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| jgriffith | hemna and that was/is the problem :) | 16:19 |
| hemna | yah, as was mine too. | 16:19 |
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| jgriffith | hemna how do you "call nova" from Cinder? | 16:19 |
| mriedem | cinder already calls nova today | 16:20 |
| mriedem | for migration and retype | 16:20 |
| hemna | Cinder does that now with swap volume | 16:20 |
| eharney | the same way we call it for other things now? | 16:20 |
| jungleboyj | jgriffith: Isn't there a call back service. | 16:20 |
| jungleboyj | There is the guy I was looking for. | 16:20 |
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| mriedem | nova doesn't want more apis like that, we have the external server events api that nova<>neutron use | 16:20 |
| mriedem | if we're doing new things like that between nova<>cinder we use the same api with new event types | 16:20 |
| jgriffith | mriedem +1 | 16:20 |
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| mgagne | ok, will post code to cinder so people can play with it and gather comments/feedback | 16:21 |
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| jgriffith | eharney IIRC the only thing doing any interaction today is the instance-assisted snapshot stuff you worked on no? | 16:21 |
| jgriffith | suppose I could look for myself :) | 16:22 |
| mriedem | jgriffith: and swap volume | 16:22 |
| mriedem | but yes those are the two | 16:22 |
| jungleboyj | #action mgagne To post WIP code for Cinder team to download and try. | 16:22 |
| mriedem | retype/migration and guest-assisted snapshot | 16:22 |
| jgriffith | so maybe step 1: convert those to the new event system | 16:22 |
| jgriffith | step2: propose the extend call? | 16:22 |
| jgriffith | I don't want to have another case of *2 ways to do it in Cinder* that never gets cleaned up | 16:22 |
| mriedem | i wouldn't waste time on converting snapshot/swap volume to the event api | 16:22 |
| mriedem | those were never even tested in the gate until probably ocata | 16:23 |
| mriedem | guest-assisted snapshot still isn't b/c it's fs-style backends only | 16:23 |
| jgriffith | mriedem alrighty then | 16:23 |
| hemna | mgagne, added a comment on your gist....FYI | 16:23 |
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| mgagne | thanks, will take a look | 16:23 |
| eharney | we have an NFS job testing assisted snaps now | 16:23 |
| jungleboyj | mriedem: Yeah, lets work on getting this to go forward first. | 16:23 |
| mriedem | eharney: yeah, but that was ocata | 16:23 |
| jgriffith | mriedem but I am going to voice my concern about adding yet another divergent path in Cinder on how to do things | 16:24 |
| mriedem | but yeah we have that coverage now somewhere at least | 16:24 |
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| jgriffith | mriedem voiced.. and done. Moving on | 16:24 |
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| jungleboyj | jgriffith: Sounds like it would be good to go back and fix that in the future. | 16:24 |
| jungleboyj | Maybe get a bug open for that. | 16:24 |
| jgriffith | jungleboyj if I had a dollar for every time we said that and *didn't* do it :) | 16:25 |
| jungleboyj | Agreed that we don't want to continue to diverge. | 16:25 |
| jungleboyj | #action jungleboyj To open a bug for moving the snapshot/swap API to using events | 16:25 |
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| jungleboyj | jgriffith: :-) | 16:25 |
| jungleboyj | It is an action. Has to happen now. | 16:26 |
| mriedem | note, | 16:26 |
| mriedem | swap is two callback apis :) | 16:26 |
| mriedem | cinder -> nova -> cinder | 16:26 |
| mriedem | it's the best | 16:26 |
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| mriedem | and if your policy doesn't line up, well, sucks to be you | 16:26 |
| jungleboyj | mriedem: Noted. | 16:27 |
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| jungleboyj | So, I think we have visibility to the extend volume issue. We need to get everyone to look at the code that mgagne shares and we need reviews of the specs I linked above. | 16:28 |
| jgriffith | mriedem not sure I follow what you mean? | 16:28 |
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| jgriffith | mriedem are you being sarcastic, or pointing out that without changing it on Nova the we're shit out of luck? | 16:28 |
| jgriffith | mriedem or both? | 16:28 |
| jgriffith | :) | 16:28 |
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| eharney | i think policy.json | 16:29 |
| jungleboyj | #action Try mgagne 's patch, review extend volume specs . | 16:29 |
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| jungleboyj | mriedem: Has disappeared behind the great firewall of China. | 16:30 |
| mriedem | jgriffith: retype | 16:30 |
| mriedem | in cinder, | 16:30 |
| mriedem | calls swap_volume in nova, | 16:30 |
| mriedem | and nova calls back to cinder to tell cinder that the swap is done | 16:30 |
| mriedem | and complete the migration | 16:30 |
| mriedem | i'm being serious | 16:30 |
| mriedem | there was a bug in nova at one point, | 16:30 |
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| jgriffith | mriedem yeah, I know about that sadly :( | 16:31 |
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| mriedem | where the nova and cinder policy files didn't line up such that a non-admin user initiating a swap volume in the comptue api (w/o cinder) would fail b/c of the callback to cinder, which is admin-only by default | 16:31 |
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| mriedem | swap volume used to be admin or owner in nova | 16:31 |
| mriedem | it's admin-only now | 16:31 |
| mriedem | by default | 16:31 |
| mriedem | i had to dig through the history to figure out how swap volume even came about | 16:31 |
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| jgriffith | mriedem I just wasn't sure as you stated you didn't think it was worth changing if that meant you didn't want it changed in Nova so if our *policy* was consistency and didn't align you were saying "suck to be you" | 16:31 |
| jgriffith | mriedem vish and avishay IIRC | 16:32 |
| jungleboyj | mriedem: So that was a bug that has been fixed unless the end user changes the policy? | 16:32 |
| mriedem | the good old days of wild west vendor specific apis | 16:32 |
| mriedem | yeeehaWWW!!! | 16:32 |
| mriedem | jungleboyj: the end user doesn't change the policy | 16:32 |
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| mriedem | the operator does | 16:32 |
| jgriffith | mriedem it was a *thing* with IBM | 16:32 |
| mriedem | vish wasn't ibm | 16:32 |
| mriedem | anyway | 16:32 |
| jungleboyj | mriedem: Sorry, operator. or packager. | 16:33 |
| jgriffith | mriedem no, but avishay who owned/drove it was :) | 16:33 |
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| mriedem | and guest assisted snapshots was gluster | 16:33 |
| mriedem | and red hat | 16:33 |
| jgriffith | mriedem but as you say... "anyway" | 16:33 |
| mriedem | but we digress | 16:33 |
| jgriffith | mriedem that was actually eharney and russellb | 16:33 |
| mriedem | i know | 16:33 |
| mriedem | red hat | 16:33 |
| mriedem | glusterf | 16:33 |
| jungleboyj | So, does anyone have more on this topic or are we good with the action items going forward? | 16:33 |
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| Swanson | Was floating into the light so I think I'm good. | 16:34 |
| jungleboyj | Ok, so we shall continue. | 16:34 |
| jungleboyj | Thank you mgagne for helping with that code and to everyone else who is contributing to that effort. | 16:35 |
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| mgagne | =) | 16:35 |
| jungleboyj | #topic Encrypted volumes and Glance: | 16:35 |
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| jungleboyj | eharney: You are up. | 16:35 |
| jungleboyj | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453342/ | 16:36 |
| eharney | sure, just wanted to see if anyone was interested in this work, i'll give some background... | 16:36 |
| jungleboyj | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453343/ | 16:36 |
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| jungleboyj | Go for it man! | 16:36 |
| eharney | upload-to-image is pretty good, volume encryption is pretty good, the combination of the two is pretty bad | 16:36 |
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| eharney | and fortunately or unfortunately this used to "work", long ago, so people upgrade expecting this to be a functional workflow, and are disappointed | 16:37 |
| jgriffith | eharney oh, that's a bit horrid | 16:37 |
| jungleboyj | eharney: Yuck. | 16:38 |
| eharney | it would have needed rework anyway to work with multiple encryption keys and barbican, as opposed to our conf key manager that has one key | 16:38 |
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| eharney | so these patches attach a key id to images in glance when we upload them, and use that to find the encryption key when we download the image to a volume | 16:38 |
| eharney | there are a handful of other bugs and issues in there (see the dependent patches), but that's the main gist of it | 16:39 |
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| eharney | without this, attempting that flow will get you either a) a doubly-encrypted volume that you can't read, or b) failure to create the volume from image | 16:39 |
| eharney | the patches are at the "works in devstack" phase now, i'll be polishing this up a lot and moving forward, unless anyone has big objections | 16:40 |
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| jungleboyj | eharney: Small patches, that is good. | 16:40 |
| jungleboyj | Sounds like we need to get that fixed in pike though. | 16:40 |
| jgriffith | eharney have to say nice work disecting that | 16:40 |
| jungleboyj | jgriffith: ++ | 16:40 |
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| eharney | i have to test a lot of combinations of things, but the code isn't bad so far | 16:41 |
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| jungleboyj | eharney: Sounds like we should get those patches on the review priorities list? | 16:41 |
| eharney | also, would like to give thanks to LisaLi who started down this road a while ago | 16:41 |
| eharney | jungleboyj: yeah, probably so | 16:41 |
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| eharney | they are loosely attached to the blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/+spec/improve-encrypted-volume | 16:41 |
| jungleboyj | #action Get patches to fix Encrypted volumes and Glance on the review priority list. | 16:41 |
| eharney | this blueprint is basically "fix everything related to encryption" so i'd like to finish it out and not keep adding things to it, but this is there for now | 16:42 |
| eharney | that's about it from me | 16:42 |
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| jungleboyj | eharney: Thank you for the efforts there and for bringing it up. I will get the patches on the review list and make sure we follow up on that. | 16:43 |
| Swanson | nice work | 16:43 |
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| jungleboyj | Wow Swanson is impressed. *gasping* ;-) | 16:44 |
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| eharney | :) | 16:44 |
| Swanson | jungleboyj, it happens! | 16:44 |
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| jungleboyj | :-) | 16:45 |
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| jungleboyj | Ok. So we have the action items there. | 16:45 |
| jungleboyj | #topic Open Discussion | 16:45 |
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| jungleboyj | Anything else we need to discuss today or should we wrap this baby up? | 16:45 |
| karthikp | Guys...I needed some feedback on the generate driver matrix | 16:46 |
| karthikp | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/371169/ | 16:46 |
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| jungleboyj | karthikp: Ok, have a tab open for that and will take a look. | 16:47 |
| karthikp | jungleboyj: Thanks Appreciate that! | 16:47 |
| bluex | It would be nice to see some feedback on blueprint proposing HA races fixes - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/429947/ | 16:48 |
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| _alastor_ | Does anyone know the simplest way to get a project name in a driver if you have the project id? | 16:49 |
| bluex | Also my life would be much easier if we got https://review.openstack.org/#/c/417257/ (quota module split) merged or abandoned | 16:49 |
| jungleboyj | bluex: Ok, Spec cutoff is coming up. I am hoping to get some time to get through Spec reviews. Will coordinate with smcginnis_vacati When he is back. I know he is pretty busy over the next few weeks but I am going to try to meet up with him to work through things. | 16:49 |
| jungleboyj | End of next week. | 16:49 |
| bluex | awesome, thanks | 16:50 |
| jungleboyj | bluex: Welcome. | 16:50 |
| jungleboyj | _alastor_: Not sure. Anyone have feedback there? | 16:50 |
| xyang | jungleboyj: I thought we have until Pike-2 for spec merge? | 16:50 |
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| _alastor_ | jungleboyj: It's not a huge deal if it's not possible. I'd just like to store name on the backend for easy human-readable mapping | 16:51 |
| xyang | jungleboyj: https://releases.openstack.org/pike/schedule.html#cinder-spec-freeze | 16:51 |
| xyang | june 7th | 16:51 |
| jungleboyj | xyang: That will be here before we know it. ;-) | 16:51 |
| xyang | that's true:) | 16:51 |
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| jungleboyj | xyang: With the Forum in there and everything. That was more beating on myself to start reading specs which I haven't been doing so well at lately. ;-) | 16:52 |
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| xyang | jungleboy: I need to review specs too:) | 16:52 |
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| jungleboyj | Also, a reminder that we don't yet have a docs liaison. | 16:54 |
| jungleboyj | I could take that on if no one else is interested ... but, if someone would be interested ... | 16:54 |
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| jungleboyj | Anyone have anything else for today? | 16:55 |
| xyang | Also Pike-1 is around the corner. Please submit a patch to add CG capability to generic volume groups if you have not done so | 16:55 |
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| jungleboyj | xyang: ++ | 16:55 |
| jungleboyj | Do we have to have those merge before Pike-1? | 16:55 |
| xyang | no, just submit a patch by Pike-1 | 16:55 |
| hemna | so what happens if folks don't ? | 16:56 |
| jungleboyj | xyang: Ok, good. Need to work on those reviews too. | 16:56 |
| xyang | should be merged by Pike-3 | 16:56 |
| Swanson | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/443364/ | 16:56 |
| Swanson | Oh, never mind that link, then. | 16:56 |
| xyang | hemna: we'll open a bug | 16:56 |
| hemna | and if drivers don't update their code for the generic groups in PIke ? | 16:56 |
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| jungleboyj | They get a generic warning. ;-) | 16:56 |
| xyang | hemna: At PTG, we decided to submit a bug for that driver | 16:56 |
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| hemna | ok that's it ? | 16:57 |
| hemna | just curious | 16:57 |
| xyang | hemna: yes, that was the decision at PTG | 16:57 |
| hemna | ok coolio. | 16:57 |
| hemna | does the driver stop functioning ? | 16:57 |
| hemna | wrt CG's ? | 16:57 |
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| xyang | hemna: In Queens though, I want to remove the conversion part, so if they didn't convert, they lose the CG function | 16:57 |
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| jungleboyj | xyang: So the deadline is just encouraging everyone to get the work done. | 16:58 |
| xyang | hemna: actually in Pike, it will still work, because there's a conversion from CG to groups | 16:58 |
| hemna | ok, so CG will still work in Pike | 16:58 |
| xyang | jungleboyj, hemna: yes | 16:58 |
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| hemna | do we throw a warning in the logs at startup | 16:58 |
| hemna | or during CG actions ? | 16:58 |
| xyang | hemna: I think we should probably do something like that | 16:58 |
| hemna | 'CG has been deprecated, please migrate to generic groups." or something along those lines | 16:58 |
| hemna | for every CG call | 16:59 |
| xyang | hemna: deprecation of CG API is in Queens | 16:59 |
| hemna | $0.02 | 16:59 |
| hemna | wait | 16:59 |
| hemna | you said you wanted to remove CG in queens | 16:59 |
| hemna | which means we need to deprecate it in Pike no ? | 16:59 |
| xyang | hemna: CG API will still work in Pike. In Queens we deprecate it | 16:59 |
| xyang | hemna: and we remove it when we can | 16:59 |
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| hemna | and remove it later | 16:59 |
| hemna | ok | 17:00 |
| xyang | hemna: in Queens, I want to remove the piece of code in manager that convert a group object to a cg object | 17:00 |
| xyang | once that's removed, driver will lose CG function if they don't add it to groups | 17:00 |
| hemna | which would break CG ? | 17:00 |
| Swanson | xyang, isn't that effectively removing it? | 17:00 |
| hemna | yah, so we need to deprecate it now then | 17:00 |
| xyang | Swanson: no | 17:00 |
| jungleboyj | It is removal of the conversion. | 17:01 |
| Swanson | xyang, That doesn't break CGs? | 17:01 |
| xyang | For drivers already added CG capability in Groups, that will not break CG | 17:01 |
| Swanson | Oh, wait, forgot about the conversion thingy. | 17:01 |
| hemna | but it doesn't create groups | 17:01 |
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| hemna | which then leaves us with what? | 17:01 |
| hemna | I'm confused | 17:01 |
| xyang | only if drivers don't care and don't implement groups, they won't have CG function in groups for free any more | 17:01 |
| jungleboyj | Yikes. We are out of time. | 17:01 |
| hemna | seems like that could lead to upgrade problems | 17:01 |
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| Swanson | Deprecate now. | 17:02 |
| jungleboyj | Lets take this over to openstack-cinder | 17:02 |
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| xyang | hemna: upgrade is taken care of in Pike already | 17:02 |
| hemna | ok | 17:02 |
| hemna | *sigh* | 17:02 |
| Swanson | jungleboyj, Unusually smoothly run meeting this week. Wonder what has changed? | 17:02 |
| xyang | hemna: there will be no entries in CG tables in pike | 17:02 |
| jungleboyj | Thanks everyone for a productive meeting! | 17:02 |
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| xyang | thanks | 17:02 |
| jungleboyj | Swanson: Ouch, I won't tell Sean you said that. | 17:02 |
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| jungleboyj | It was going so well until the end. | 17:02 |
| jungleboyj | Anyway, thanks everyone for your work on Cinder. | 17:03 |
| jungleboyj | See you all next week. | 17:03 |
| jungleboyj | #endmeeting | 17:03 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 5 17:03:18 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:03 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2017/cinder.2017-04-05-16.00.html | 17:03 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2017/cinder.2017-04-05-16.00.txt | 17:03 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2017/cinder.2017-04-05-16.00.log.html | 17:03 |
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| SotK | anyone here for the storyboard meeting? | 19:00 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | I AM | 19:00 |
| SotK | \o/ | 19:00 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | IN ALLCAPS | 19:00 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | NO LESS | 19:00 |
| SotK | #startmeeting storyboard | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 5 19:00:25 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SotK. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: storyboard)" | 19:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'storyboard' | 19:00 |
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| SotK | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/StoryBoard Agenda | 19:00 |
| SotK | #topic Announcements | 19:00 |
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| diablo_rojo_phon | Hello | 19:00 |
| SotK | I think there is nothing here again | 19:01 |
| SotK | hey diablo_rojo_phon | 19:01 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | hi! | 19:01 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | I'll be on a laptop shortly :) | 19:01 |
| SotK | #topic Urgent Items | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Urgent Items (Meeting topic: storyboard)" | 19:01 | |
| SotK | I also think there is nothing here | 19:01 |
| SotK | #topic In Progress Work | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "In Progress Work (Meeting topic: storyboard)" | 19:01 | |
| SotK | I'm afraid I failed to find time to test any new projects this week because I was away for half of it | 19:02 |
| SotK | I did review some things though | 19:02 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | ace | 19:03 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | I've done a little review, and wasn't even away for half of it | 19:03 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | so hey | 19:03 |
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| SotK | :) | 19:04 |
| diablo_rojo | Okay here now :) | 19:04 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | there are a number of patches in review for max and min lengths for project/project group names | 19:05 |
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| diablo_rojo | I've been trying to stay on top of those | 19:05 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | I haven't had time to look at those at all really, but I'm fine with them in theory, since I don't see a reason to limit them so restrictively | 19:06 |
| diablo_rojo | I really really really could use eyes on my patch | 19:06 |
| diablo_rojo | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/437469/ | 19:06 |
| diablo_rojo | We need that merged as soon as we can | 19:06 |
| diablo_rojo | As I say that | 19:06 |
| diablo_rojo | I see there are comments lol | 19:07 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | hahahaha | 19:07 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | I was so confused | 19:07 |
| diablo_rojo | I will look at addressing those today/tomorrow | 19:07 |
| diablo_rojo | Lol | 19:07 |
| diablo_rojo | Sorry | 19:07 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | haha oh well now you know we weren't just ignoring you :) | 19:07 |
| diablo_rojo | Noted :) | 19:08 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | sorry if that was frustrating | 19:08 |
| fungi | the joys of code review ;) | 19:08 |
| diablo_rojo | So thank you for those comments and I will address them in the next 48ish hours. | 19:08 |
| SotK | I shall try to look at the project name patches soonish | 19:08 |
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| * diablo_rojo assumed there was nothing cause she didnt see a -1 | 19:08 | |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | aha, that's useful to know for the future | 19:09 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | will avoid a +0 for your patches, thanks | 19:09 |
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| diablo_rojo | I look at the my changes view and if there is nothing in the CR column I think no one loves me. | 19:10 |
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| * SotK will do likewise | 19:11 | |
| diablo_rojo | Anyone else have things in progress they need reviews on? | 19:11 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | I have a patch in progress but no reviews needed yet | 19:12 |
| SotK | my in progress stuff is still failing tests, so nothing here | 19:12 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | yeah, mine is the remove story_types stuff | 19:12 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | so... still untested, still potentially sets everything on fire | 19:13 |
| SotK | I think that is all | 19:14 |
| diablo_rojo | I can give updates on Cloudkitty and Swift? Open Discussion time? | 19:14 |
| SotK | #topic Open Discussion | 19:14 |
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| SotK | diablo_rojo: what are the updates? | 19:14 |
| diablo_rojo | Okay so basically I talked to the PTLs and Cloudkitty is very interested and will just go over it in their meeting a week from today | 19:15 |
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| diablo_rojo | Swift is also interested but will discuss in their meeting today at 21 UTC if you want to be around to help with questions :) | 19:15 |
| diablo_rojo | Craton as we know is in for the next round. | 19:15 |
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| * SotK should probably get round to testing swift then | 19:16 | |
| diablo_rojo | Yes please :) | 19:16 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | nice | 19:16 |
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| fungi | i'm happy to run imports for either or both of them | 19:17 |
| diablo_rojo | I can reach out to some others too, but I'd rather go to ones we know we could move now. | 19:17 |
| fungi | unless it's next week which will be a little tough for me | 19:17 |
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| diablo_rojo | fungi, It would be late next week/early the week after at the soonest I would think. | 19:17 |
| fungi | okay... i get home friday afternoon so that's probably compatible | 19:18 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | is there anything it's useful for me to be doing? | 19:18 |
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| diablo_rojo | zara_the_lemur__, if you can figure out how to test the migration of them too I can give you more projects to test | 19:18 |
| diablo_rojo | I know part of SotK's directions mentioned something about access that both of you have | 19:19 |
| diablo_rojo | I saved the directions if you want me to send them to you | 19:19 |
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| * zara_the_lemur__ believes she knows how to test, is wondering if there's stuff to test that doesn't overlap with stuff sotk's testing | 19:19 | |
| zara_the_lemur__ | (I might be wrong on whether I know how to test so am hedging) | 19:19 |
| diablo_rojo | zara_the_lemur__, I can give you a separate list of projects to test migrate | 19:20 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | wfm | 19:20 |
| SotK | best parallelisation is probably to test different projects than me | 19:20 |
| SotK | oh I am slow | 19:20 |
| notmyname | FYI I'm talking with the swift team about storyboard in today's team meeting (in 1 hour 4 minutes from now) | 19:20 |
| diablo_rojo | notmyname, what channel? here? | 19:20 |
| notmyname | here | 19:21 |
| diablo_rojo | Coolio :) I'll be around. | 19:21 |
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| diablo_rojo | zara_the_lemur__, I can give you a separate list of a few projects to test after this :) | 19:21 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | great, thanks :) | 19:21 |
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| diablo_rojo | zara_the_lemur__, thank you :) | 19:22 |
| diablo_rojo | zara_the_lemur__, SotK we also need to plan a time to work on our Summit presentation | 19:22 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | (fwiw I don't think we have any special access to anything, we just have test instances spun up and have access to those) | 19:23 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | indeed! | 19:23 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | I'm not sure what will work yet for that | 19:24 |
| * SotK neither | 19:24 | |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | at what point does it go into 'argh we should have something mostly done by now' territory for you? | 19:25 |
| diablo_rojo | Sometime next week maybe? | 19:25 |
| diablo_rojo | Uh two weeks out from the summit | 19:25 |
| diablo_rojo | Next week was a suggestion of when we could find a time | 19:25 |
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| SotK | that can probably work for me | 19:25 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | +1 | 19:26 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | (and yay, 2 weeks out is about the same as me for 'argh') | 19:26 |
| fungi | yeah, import testing shouldn't require special access to anything. just set up a database and then the script pulls public data from launchpad | 19:26 |
| diablo_rojo | okay cool | 19:26 |
| fungi | spinning up a working storyboard server on top of that database is also helpful if you want to browse the end result | 19:27 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | indeed + it should be pretty quick to do these days | 19:27 |
| fungi | yeah, we have puppet for that ;) | 19:28 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | the webclient install used to be painful, but the last time I spun up the webclient, it took literally 5 minutes | 19:28 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | (the very first time I tried, it took a couple of afternoons) | 19:29 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | (so, progress!) | 19:29 |
| SotK | yeah, puppet is super easy if you don't plan on hacking on storyboard itself | 19:29 |
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| * zara_the_lemur__ can't think of anything else she wants to openly discuss | 19:34 | |
| SotK | anyone else got anything? | 19:35 |
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| fungi | nothing from me | 19:35 |
| diablo_rojo | Nothing I can come up with right now- lots of work to do :) | 19:35 |
| SotK | then thanks all for coming :) | 19:35 |
| SotK | #endmeeting | 19:35 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 5 19:35:39 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:35 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2017/storyboard.2017-04-05-19.00.html | 19:35 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2017/storyboard.2017-04-05-19.00.txt | 19:35 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2017/storyboard.2017-04-05-19.00.log.html | 19:35 |
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| notmyname | swift team meeting time | 21:00 |
| notmyname | #startmeeting swift | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 5 21:00:19 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is notmyname. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'swift' | 21:00 |
| notmyname | who's here for the swift team meeting? | 21:00 |
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| patchbot | I'm here for the meeting! | 21:00 |
| dmorita | o/ | 21:00 |
| mattoliverau | o/ | 21:00 |
| mathiasb | o/ | 21:00 |
| tdasilva | hi | 21:00 |
| rledisez | hi o/ | 21:00 |
| kota_ | o/ | 21:01 |
| * SotK lurks | 21:01 | |
| notmyname | I fixed patchbot, so it can join us in meetings again | 21:01 |
| tdasilva | has patchbot grown a sense of humor? | 21:01 |
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| * patchbot is alive! | 21:01 | |
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| mattoliverau | what it attempts to be humour | 21:02 |
| notmyname | clayg: acoles: jrichli: here? | 21:02 |
| acoles | hi | 21:02 |
| notmyname | mattoliverau: no kidding | 21:02 |
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| clayg | no | 21:02 |
| jrichli | yes sir :-) | 21:03 |
| m_kazuhiro | o/ | 21:03 |
| torgomatic | . | 21:03 |
| notmyname | a few things to go over this week | 21:03 |
| notmyname | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Swift | 21:03 |
| notmyname | #topic follow-up from last week | 21:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "follow-up from last week (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:03 | |
| notmyname | mattoliverau: anything new on stable branch test failures? anything else to do there? | 21:03 |
| notmyname | I've landed all the backport patches, including yours | 21:04 |
| mattoliverau | I haven't been as productive as I'd liked there this week. got sidetracked on one tho | 21:04 |
| notmyname | mattoliverau: I think we're good on this, but did you find anythign else? | 21:04 |
| mattoliverau | FAIL: test_GET (test.unit.proxy.test_server.TestAccountController) | 21:04 |
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| notmyname | that's not the same one you had a patch for, right? | 21:05 |
| mattoliverau | fails every 100ish time, but also on master. It seems to be FakeConn or GETorHeadHandler loosing a request when trying to find qouum. | 21:05 |
| mattoliverau | nope. | 21:05 |
| notmyname | ok | 21:05 |
| mattoliverau | but just kept showing up | 21:05 |
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| notmyname | mattoliverau: do you have a bug filed for it in launchpad? | 21:05 |
| mattoliverau | so went ot test master | 21:05 |
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| mattoliverau | no, found it yesterday arvo, so wanted to see if it was a problem elsewhere. | 21:06 |
| notmyname | ok | 21:06 |
| mattoliverau | I'll put one up today.. I'm part way through investigating it tho | 21:06 |
| notmyname | please file that when you get some info on it | 21:06 |
| notmyname | thanks | 21:06 |
| notmyname | next up... | 21:06 |
| notmyname | patch 451524 has landed. approved by the tc yesterday | 21:07 |
| patchbot | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/451524/ - governance - Use case analysis for Golang addition to Openstack (MERGED) | 21:07 |
| notmyname | thank you tdasilva for writing that up | 21:07 |
| mattoliverau | yeah nice work tdasilva | 21:07 |
| jrichli | yay! | 21:07 |
| notmyname | what this means is that the tc has formally approved swift using golang | 21:07 |
| kota_ | nice! | 21:07 |
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| notmyname | there's a lot of work to be done, of course, some of which is figuring out the logistics for -infra | 21:08 |
| clayg | umm.. *is* that what i means? | 21:08 |
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| tdasilva | was asking the same question | 21:08 |
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| notmyname | according to the tc process (https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/new-language-requirements.html) yes | 21:09 |
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| notmyname | step one, approval of the need for a new language, has been done | 21:09 |
| notmyname | After reviewing and agreeing on the need for a new language, the team driving this effort should start working on the second phase. The needs of a new language should not be questioned during the evaluation of the second phase, unless the team working on it decides the language is not needed anymore. | 21:09 |
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| notmyname | as a reminder to everyone, we don't want golang because it will be fun. we need it as part of solving some bigger problems facing every swift cluster | 21:10 |
| notmyname | the high-level outline of that is at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Swift/Fixing-rebalance-and-golang | 21:10 |
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| notmyname | so far, clayg has been digging into that work (the general rebalance problem) | 21:11 |
| notmyname | but there is a *lot* to do | 21:11 |
| notmyname | it is a great area for people to help out in | 21:11 |
| notmyname | and one of the two main priorities for stuff to get done (the other being container sharding) | 21:12 |
| notmyname | I'm happy the first step of the new TC process is over | 21:12 |
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| notmyname | any questions on that before we move on? | 21:12 |
| clayg | notmyname: but now that swift has outlined our use-case - does that mean that openstack-client can start to merge golang patches as soon as common infrastructure and/or shared modules are developed? | 21:12 |
| notmyname | clayg: my understanding is that it's been approved for swift. I don't know if that's a general approval or not | 21:13 |
| tdasilva | clayg: IIUC, yes | 21:14 |
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| notmyname | but note that we are expected to help out with building that common infrastructure as part of getting golang into our codebase | 21:15 |
| notmyname | next follow-up... | 21:16 |
| notmyname | https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/1675500 | 21:16 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1675500 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "Container/account disk drive fault results replication on all rest drives" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Pavel Kvasnička (pavel-kvasnicka) | 21:16 |
| acoles | there's a second resolution needed before projects can release golang https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/new-language-requirements.html#guarantee-compatible-functionality-for-the-base-common-libraries | 21:16 |
| clayg | notmyname: ok awesome! | 21:16 |
| notmyname | mattoliverau: rledisez: acoles: last week the three of you said you'd look into that bug | 21:16 |
| notmyname | any news? | 21:16 |
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| notmyname | kota_: you commented too :-) | 21:17 |
| mattoliverau | Yeah, it's deinfitely a bug, and happens on all modes | 21:17 |
| mattoliverau | no matter the number of replicas I mean | 21:17 |
| kota_ | yup | 21:17 |
| notmyname | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448480/ is proposed, and clayg has -1 for text failure(?) | 21:17 |
| patchbot | patch 448480 - swift - Container drive error results double space usage o... | 21:17 |
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| mattoliverau | I wrote some probe tests and linked them in the patch for those who want to see. | 21:18 |
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| acoles | notmyname: sorry, I didn't yet, got distracted by reconstructor bugs | 21:18 |
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| notmyname | acoles: no worries. looks like kota_ mattoliverau and clayg have looked at it | 21:18 |
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| notmyname | clayg: oh sorry, not a test failure. needs more work to clean up the over-replicated data | 21:19 |
| mattoliverau | Both clayg and I put some sample patches in the bug to stop the bleeding, the patch goes further. and I think that's where its stalled | 21:19 |
| notmyname | good | 21:19 |
| notmyname | what's the next step then? | 21:19 |
| notmyname | what do we need to give to pavel? what do we need to get from him? | 21:19 |
| mattoliverau | what... should the fix be. should we behave like object replication, and things sit on handoffs until its ready. | 21:19 |
| notmyname | onovy: ^ FYI | 21:19 |
| mattoliverau | *fixed | 21:19 |
| mattoliverau | (too early for me to make sentences) | 21:19 |
| mattoliverau | :P | 21:20 |
| notmyname | heh | 21:20 |
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| mattoliverau | should handoffs only push to primaries. | 21:20 |
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| notmyname | mattoliverau: kota_: can you keep working with pavel this week on getting a viable patch? | 21:21 |
| clayg | mattoliverau: are you sure "handoffs only push to primaries" is a thing object replication does? Maybe it is... but even when they see a 507? seems unlikely | 21:21 |
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| mattoliverau | clayg: I'm just going on comments in the patch, because I haven't coffeed :P | 21:22 |
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| kota_ | notmyname: i'm available in this week but idk if pavel is | 21:22 |
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| notmyname | ok | 21:22 |
| notmyname | also, don't be shy to push changes over what's proposed | 21:23 |
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| notmyname | that's ok | 21:23 |
| kota_ | as mattoliverau described, to fix the bug with minimum code, i think clayg's patch can be good | 21:23 |
| mattoliverau | I think claygs question in patch was, there is a high prioriy bug, should we stop the bleeding then fix the rest when we have more time it iterate. | 21:23 |
| kota_ | and i'm waiting pavel's opinion at the patch now. | 21:23 |
| notmyname | ok | 21:23 |
| notmyname | anything more to talk about on that patch? | 21:24 |
| notmyname | ok, moving on | 21:24 |
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| notmyname | to new things | 21:24 |
| notmyname | #topic tc vision document | 21:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "tc vision document (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:24 | |
| notmyname | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453262/ | 21:25 |
| patchbot | patch 453262 - governance - Draft technical committee vision for public feedback | 21:25 |
| notmyname | pay attention to this | 21:25 |
| notmyname | it was just proposed and is an attempt to frame the next few years of openstack | 21:25 |
| notmyname | the tc is looking for comments | 21:25 |
| notmyname | please read over it and leave comments | 21:25 |
| notmyname | #topic migrating to storyboard | 21:26 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "migrating to storyboard (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:26 | |
| notmyname | remember when we talked about storyboard? | 21:26 |
| mattoliverau | yup | 21:26 |
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| mattoliverau | and we were surprised it was still a thing | 21:26 |
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| notmyname | what was that? I know at the PTG. maybe also Austin? Barca? | 21:26 |
| notmyname | it's been talked about a few times | 21:26 |
| notmyname | and it's come up again | 21:26 |
| notmyname | is there someone here from the storyboard team? | 21:27 |
| diablo_rojo | Yep | 21:27 |
| notmyname | diablo_rojo: hi! welcome | 21:27 |
| SotK | o/ | 21:27 |
| diablo_rojo | I think SotK is creeping too | 21:27 |
| notmyname | diablo_rojo: so tell us more. you've talked about swift using storyboard. we've been interested in the past | 21:27 |
| notmyname | but we don't know anything about it or how that works | 21:27 |
| notmyname | welcome SotK | 21:28 |
| diablo_rojo | So basically we have migrated a few projects- Monasca, refstack, and the interop wg- and they joined infra. | 21:28 |
| diablo_rojo | Its a pretty simple process, we have scripts to migrate open items in lp over so you dont need to recreate everything from scratch. | 21:28 |
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| notmyname | it's a complete replacement of launchpad right? | 21:28 |
| diablo_rojo | We were just wondering if you were interested/ if there was anything you may have noticed sb doesn't have that you would need to be able to use it. | 21:28 |
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| diablo_rojo | notmyname, correct | 21:29 |
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| diablo_rojo | I am actually working on making it a Queens release goal to have all projects migrated by the end of the release | 21:29 |
| * diablo_rojo was working on drafting that before this meeting :) | 21:29 | |
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| notmyname | last we talked about it, we're interested, but we don't know much about storyboard. and therefore we also don't really understand what a migration means | 21:29 |
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| clayg | diablo_rojo: are any not projects that don't host code on git.openstack.org *using* storyboard today? | 21:29 |
| notmyname | but it sounds like it will be a thing everyone does, so getting on the storyboard train early is good ;-) | 21:30 |
| clayg | s/are any not projects/are any projects/g - ssory | 21:30 |
| clayg | heh | 21:30 |
| mattoliverau | How can we look at it and have a play with its features, is there a rest env, or should we go raise a bunch of feautures in refstack or something? :P | 21:30 |
| diablo_rojo | clayg, Craton isn't an official project and they want to be part of the next wave of migrations- is that what you are talking about? | 21:30 |
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| SotK | mattoliverau: there is storyboard-dev.openstack.org for playing around with | 21:30 |
| mattoliverau | nice :) | 21:31 |
| diablo_rojo | mattoliverau, I have sent a few things out to the ml with blog posts and a bunch of links, let me get the archive link | 21:31 |
| mattoliverau | diablo_rojo: ta | 21:31 |
| notmyname | what does it do with existing links in existing commit messages? | 21:31 |
| notmyname | do bug numbers stay the same? | 21:31 |
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| * notmyname is sure you've already thought about and handled all this | 21:32 | |
| SotK | yeah, story IDs are the same as the bug number in LP | 21:32 |
| diablo_rojo | mattoliverau, here's the ml thread: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-February/112282.html | 21:32 |
| clayg | diablo_rojo: nope, I'm just curious to what extend OpenStack is building an island - sounds like to begin with it's standard "Open | 21:32 |
| mattoliverau | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-February/112282.html | 21:32 |
| notmyname | ok, so if you ran migration scripts today, what do we do tomorrow? how does it "work" from a day-to-day perspective? we jsut go there instead of LP and that's it? | 21:33 |
| clayg | ... well just that launchpad isn't anyone's favorite - but utlimately it's going to do things other FOSS projects currently get done with launchpad | 21:33 |
| clayg | ... or github issues | 21:33 |
| notmyname | clayg: it == storyboard? | 21:33 |
| clayg | yeah | 21:33 |
| diablo_rojo | notmyname, yep, you just stop using lp and file things in sb instead- also probably want to tell vendors about it too. | 21:33 |
| SotK | I don't know what the plan is for existing commit messages, probably before all projects are merged it'd require manually fixing them to use the Story: #### syntax | 21:33 |
| * notmyname needs to go re read the linked storyboard docs | 21:34 | |
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| notmyname | SotK: has any project that does vuln management migrated to it yet? | 21:35 |
| clayg | mattoliverau: thanks for the link | 21:35 |
| diablo_rojo | clayg, maybe fungi can shed some light on that | 21:35 |
| clayg | notmyname: good question! | 21:35 |
| mattoliverau | lol, it was diablo_rojo's :) | 21:35 |
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| SotK | notmyname: not yet afaik | 21:36 |
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| notmyname | but there's functionality for that already? private bugs with private code reviews? | 21:37 |
| diablo_rojo | notmyname, that is in progress work actually. | 21:37 |
| notmyname | has the vuln management team given feedback? | 21:37 |
| diablo_rojo | SotK, its about half done? | 21:37 |
| notmyname | ah ok | 21:37 |
| acoles | diablo_rojo: is there a mechanism to prevent new items going to launchpad after a migration? a redirect? | 21:37 |
| notmyname | so it might be wise to wait for that? | 21:37 |
| SotK | clayg: I know of other storyboards that are deployed and used to varying extents | 21:37 |
| clayg | SotK: that's *awesome* | 21:38 |
| diablo_rojo | notmyname, yeah if that is something you need, we would wait to move you till after thats done. | 21:38 |
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| notmyname | diablo_rojo: yeah, definitely | 21:38 |
| clayg | notmyname: our needs there aren't complex - the half they've implemented might be fine | 21:38 |
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| mattoliverau | notmyname: what do you mean, we don't have bugs, esp embargo ones :P | 21:38 |
| diablo_rojo | notmyname, we will write you down on the list of projects that need that before they can move. | 21:38 |
| tdasilva | what about using it for other things like trello board? | 21:38 |
| SotK | notmyname: indeed, there are private stories (where the story and all related things like tasks + comments + history) | 21:38 |
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| SotK | the missing functionality is in automatically making vulnerabilities visible to the vmt | 21:39 |
| notmyname | last question (for now, I think), is the migration story written up somewhere? is it in that email? like, we do #1, then you do #2, then next is #3... | 21:39 |
| SotK | there is also the fact that our migration script currently doesn't migrate private bugs | 21:39 |
| notmyname | SotK: hmm.. ok | 21:39 |
| diablo_rojo | notmyname, No, its really just an agreement on a date and then we get an infra friend (usually fungi) to run the scripts and then its done. Not much you need to do but spread the word. | 21:40 |
| notmyname | SotK: one would hope that the number of private bugs would be small enough that they could be moved by hand :-) | 21:40 |
| SotK | notmyname: indeed :) | 21:40 |
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| notmyname | so what acoles asked... do we "turn off" LP after a migration? | 21:41 |
| notmyname | is that possible? | 21:41 |
| acoles | we need it to become readonly right? | 21:41 |
| notmyname | right | 21:41 |
| notmyname | (I think) | 21:41 |
| SotK | correct I believe | 21:41 |
| acoles | or does its entire history get migrated? | 21:41 |
| SotK | (at least, I'm pretty sure that's what infra did to theirs way back when) | 21:41 |
| diablo_rojo | acoles, not the history, just open items | 21:42 |
| notmyname | which one? | 21:42 |
| notmyname | ok | 21:42 |
| notmyname | history stays in LP, LP becomes read-only, open things get migrated, and new stuff goes to storyboard | 21:42 |
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| acoles | so we'd want launchpad to stay there in readonly mode, somehow | 21:42 |
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| notmyname | which also solves the existing links problem | 21:42 |
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| clayg | looks just "gone" to me? https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ci | 21:43 |
| acoles | notmyname: how does it solve links? closes-bug to an open bug in launchpad woul dneed to be changed? | 21:43 |
| notmyname | acoles: meaning that existing links to LP would still work | 21:43 |
| notmyname | ...but I'm not sure about what clayg just said | 21:43 |
| SotK | clayg: I may be misremembering, I'm sure fungi can clarify at some point | 21:44 |
| clayg | notmyname: i mean, it'd be nice to have an exmple of a project that used launchpad and now uses story board | 21:44 |
| clayg | if so such project exists we could just "do it" | 21:44 |
| notmyname | yeah | 21:44 |
| diablo_rojo | clayg, Monasca is one you could talk to :) | 21:44 |
| notmyname | SotK: diablo_rojo: this has been very helpful. thanks. what do we as a team need to consider next or do next? | 21:44 |
| notmyname | talk to Monasca, it sounds like | 21:45 |
| notmyname | what else? | 21:45 |
| diablo_rojo | notmyname, I would say figure out if there is anything else you need as a project besides VMT things or if what is there currently works for you guys. | 21:45 |
| clayg | so monasca still has bugs -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/monasca | 21:45 |
| clayg | i can report a new one -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/monasca/+filebug | 21:45 |
| tdasilva | would it make sense to use for other functionality like "trello board" type of functionality...just to get our feet wet with sb??? | 21:45 |
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| SotK | notmyname: play around with storyboard and see if there is anything that jumps out as being likely to block your use of it | 21:45 |
| tdasilva | before using it for bugs | 21:45 |
| diablo_rojo | We can run a test migration to our sandbox to see if there are any other issues. | 21:46 |
| clayg | new open high prio bugs still seems active on lp -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/monasca/+bug/1636508 | 21:46 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1636508 in Monasca "Smoke test fails and is not under ci or within openstack review process" [High,New] | 21:46 |
| acoles | notmyname: yep, merged commit links ought to still link to something on launchpad, future patches use Story tags, and pending patches....we need to remember to update commit messages...manually? | 21:46 |
| notmyname | last bugs in LP for monasca have been updated in the past few days | 21:46 |
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| diablo_rojo | acoles, yes that's accurate I believe | 21:46 |
| notmyname | acoles: yes? | 21:46 |
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| notmyname | ok, I'd like to move on in this meeting, but thank you for the info | 21:47 |
| acoles | notmyname: I thought I was agreeing with you...at least on a requirement if not a feature :) | 21:48 |
| diablo_rojo | notmyname, thanks for your time :) | 21:48 |
| notmyname | we'll look at it | 21:48 |
| SotK | indeed, thanks :) | 21:48 |
| notmyname | #topic forum topics | 21:48 |
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| clayg | diablo_rojo: SotK: thanks! | 21:48 |
| notmyname | #link http://forumtopics.openstack.org | 21:48 |
| notmyname | those are the proposals for the forum in atlanta | 21:48 |
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| notmyname | this morning I was asked to provide some more commentary on the swift talks | 21:48 |
| kota_ | boston? | 21:48 |
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| notmyname | boston | 21:49 |
| notmyname | thanks kota_ | 21:49 |
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| notmyname | my understanding is that the forum topics are things that couldn't be discussed elsewhere because of who's attending (ie ops) | 21:49 |
| notmyname | and I was asked to provide that justification for the swift sessions | 21:50 |
| notmyname | in that, those who are building the schedule and selecting the talks aren't familiar with swift so need some more context | 21:50 |
| notmyname | please help me out on this | 21:50 |
| notmyname | I think everyone should have the ability to leave comments on the topics | 21:50 |
| notmyname | I'll be going through them as well, but if we all help out, we'll get through the swift ones faster | 21:51 |
| mattoliverau | kk | 21:52 |
| notmyname | the swift ones should all say "swift", but you can also just look for the ones I submitted | 21:52 |
| clayg | tdasilva: I think monasca basically started using storyboard and they curently have some bugs tracked on lp and some tracked on storyboard - it's not an unreasonable "let's try this out pattern" | 21:52 |
| notmyname | we submitted a lot of stuff that would have been sessions if the ptg/forum split would not have happened. and of course we look for a lot of ops feedback for a lot of these | 21:52 |
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| mattoliverau | so need to give them a ops spin ;) | 21:53 |
| notmyname | but adding more context and more justification for being included will help make our boston summit more productive overall | 21:53 |
| notmyname | any questions on that? | 21:54 |
| notmyname | ok. here's a pre- "thank you for your help" :-) | 21:54 |
| mattoliverau | not yet, will take a look at them and see if I have comments :) | 21:54 |
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| notmyname | #topic open discussion | 21:54 |
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| notmyname | next week's meeting | 21:54 |
| notmyname | next week I'll be at the openstack leadership training thing in Ann Arbor | 21:55 |
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| notmyname | (you may have seen it mentioned on the ML) | 21:55 |
| notmyname | so I won't be here to chair | 21:55 |
| notmyname | is there another volunteer or shall we skip next week's meeting? | 21:55 |
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| mattoliverau | lets just assume to skip the next one, if something comes up we need to talk about, someone can volunteer :) | 21:56 |
| notmyname | heh | 21:56 |
| mattoliverau | So everyone check the adjenda to see if its on, but lets assume it's not | 21:56 |
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| patchbot | matt just wants to sleep late! | 21:56 |
| mattoliverau | patchbot: you can read my mind, what kind of updates have they done to you :P | 21:57 |
| acoles | patchbot? | 21:57 |
| kota_ | lol | 21:57 |
| * jrichli thinks patchbot has gained a sense of humor | 21:57 | |
| acoles | or notmyname has gained an alter ego :) | 21:57 |
| mattoliverau | all this time, there was no bot, it's just notmyname | 21:58 |
| clayg | heh | 21:58 |
| jrichli | lol | 21:58 |
| notmyname | anything else to bring up this week? 2 min left | 21:58 |
| acoles | mattoliverau: lol | 21:58 |
| notmyname | ok, /fin | 21:58 |
| notmyname | thank you for coming and for your work on swift, both code and community | 21:59 |
| notmyname | you are what makes swift awesome | 21:59 |
| notmyname | #endmeeting | 21:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 5 21:59:17 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2017/swift.2017-04-05-21.00.html | 21:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2017/swift.2017-04-05-21.00.txt | 21:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2017/swift.2017-04-05-21.00.log.html | 21:59 |
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