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| tonyb | #startmeeting stable | 10:04 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Mar 6 10:04:35 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tonyb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 10:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 10:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: stable)" | 10:04 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'stable' | 10:04 |
| tonyb | Anyone around for the stable meeting? | 10:05 |
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| tonyb | Well for the logs Things I/we promised to do at the PTG: | 10:14 |
| tonyb | 1) update releases.o.o with dates that projects switch to $next phase | 10:15 |
| tonyb | 2) create and maintain an openstack/stable-$something repo for tools and documents about stable | 10:15 |
| tonyb | 3) update the project-team-guide with more details about how stable teams are managed and how cores are added to $project-stable-core | 10:15 |
| tonyb | 4) Find trusted stable reviewers to help with reviewing releases from stable/* branches in openstack/releases | 10:15 |
| tonyb | 5) flesh out an alternate model for stable project teams that relies on a stable-CPL to help notice and grow $project stable teams ideally it would be someone other than the PTL | 10:15 |
| tonyb | I think that's it so basically this cycle is about tech-debt and documentation | 10:15 |
| tonyb | Oh and I need to wrap up the liberty and pre-liberty cleanups so I can get started on the mitaka EOL (early April) | 10:16 |
| tonyb | #endmeeting | 10:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 10:17 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Mar 6 10:17:08 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 10:17 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/stable/2017/stable.2017-03-06-10.04.html | 10:17 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/stable/2017/stable.2017-03-06-10.04.txt | 10:17 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/stable/2017/stable.2017-03-06-10.04.log.html | 10:17 |
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| lennyb | #startmeeting third-party | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Mar 6 15:00:31 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is lennyb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'third_party' | 15:00 |
| lennyb | Hello | 15:00 |
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| mmedvede | o/ | 15:02 |
| lennyb | how are you, mmedvede? | 15:04 |
| lennyb | I have a question, we are trying to use zuul as a gate in our internal gerrit, and we are getting #link http://paste.openstack.org/show/601561/ error. any ideas? | 15:05 |
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| mmedvede | I'm well, thx | 15:06 |
| mmedvede | lennyb: looks like gerrit reporter can not open url to report the result | 15:07 |
| lennyb | this is what we thought :( | 15:08 |
| lennyb | any questions/updates from your side? | 15:08 |
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| mmedvede | I have one that could be useful. If you were using a devstack-gate job with custom regex, you might now be running less tests. Some of scenario tests were marked as slow and now run separate | 15:10 |
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| mmedvede | #link run tempest scenarios serially https://review.openstack.org/#/c/439698/ | 15:11 |
| lennyb | mmedvede, thank. we are running our CI using filter to listen on relevant files only | 15:11 |
| mmedvede | lennyb: it is not about triggering on certain file changes. | 15:12 |
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| mmedvede | The action to take here is to make sure you are still running the sceario tests if you are interested in running them | 15:12 |
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| asselin | hi | 15:13 |
| lennyb | Hi asselin. | 15:13 |
| asselin | sorry i'm late...irc connection problems on my normal client | 15:13 |
| lennyb | mmedvede, thanks for mentioning this. | 15:13 |
| lennyb | mmedvede, we are not using regex. | 15:14 |
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| lennyb | anything else to discuss/complain/show off about ? :) | 15:17 |
| mmedvede | nothing from me | 15:18 |
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| asselin | not from me either | 15:18 |
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| lennyb | thanks for coming. have a good rest of the whatever you have :). See you next week. | 15:19 |
| lennyb | #endmeeting | 15:20 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Mar 6 15:20:07 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:20 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2017/third_party.2017-03-06-15.00.html | 15:20 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2017/third_party.2017-03-06-15.00.txt | 15:20 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2017/third_party.2017-03-06-15.00.log.html | 15:20 |
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| rakhmerov | #startmeeting Mistral | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Mar 6 16:00:42 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rakhmerov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'mistral' | 16:00 |
| rakhmerov | hello | 16:01 |
| fultonj | hello | 16:01 |
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| d0ugal | Hey! | 16:01 |
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| rakhmerov | :) | 16:01 |
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| rakhmerov | mgershen: hi, you here? | 16:02 |
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| rakhmerov | d0ugal: 1 min | 16:02 |
| d0ugal | ure | 16:02 |
| d0ugal | sure | 16:02 |
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| rakhmerov | ok, I'm back | 16:03 |
| rakhmerov | is there anybody else on the meeting? Name yourself | 16:03 |
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| fultonj | just us three then? | 16:04 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: I wonder if not sending out reminders was a bad decision :) | 16:05 |
| rakhmerov | fultonj: yes, seems so | 16:05 |
| d0ugal | fultonj: it might be! | 16:05 |
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| rbrady | o/ | 16:05 |
| d0ugal | rakhmerov: hmm, good question. | 16:05 |
| fultonj | yay | 16:05 |
| rakhmerov | ooh, Ryan, hi | 16:05 |
| d0ugal | rakhmerov: I did remind rbrady 40 mins ago, so an email probably wouldn't have helped either :P | 16:05 |
| rakhmerov | fultonj: I'm not sure we know each other | 16:05 |
| rakhmerov | fultonj: what brought you to our meeting? | 16:06 |
| fultonj | hi rakhmerov I'm working on tripleo ceph integration and want to use d0ugal's mistral-ansible-actions | 16:06 |
| rbrady | sorry, I guess I need to set myself a calendar invite | 16:06 |
| d0ugal | rbrady: np | 16:06 |
| rakhmerov | fultonj: ook, I see | 16:06 |
| rakhmerov | good | 16:06 |
| rakhmerov | yeah | 16:06 |
| d0ugal | rakhmerov: and that raises the question of where the ansible actions should live - it seems like mistral-extra would be best | 16:06 |
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| d0ugal | (but we might put them in tripleo-common until the mistral-lib/mistral-extra repos are ready) | 16:07 |
| rakhmerov | you know what, I already have a calendar event, I'm going to send it out to people who need to participate (at least potentially) | 16:07 |
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| d0ugal | Good idea. | 16:07 |
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| rakhmerov | #action rakhmerov: send an invitation to team members to a weekly meeting | 16:08 |
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| rakhmerov | ok, we'll skip the usual topic about previous action items today | 16:08 |
| rakhmerov | no action items | 16:08 |
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| rakhmerov | honestly, I was hoping to sort out all the notes by today's meeting after the PTG (I also took a short vacation last week) but I didn't do that | 16:09 |
| rakhmerov | only started | 16:09 |
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| rakhmerov | so, let's quickly report our statuses as usually and then we can discuss anything | 16:09 |
| rakhmerov | I'll share my impression about the PTG also | 16:09 |
| rakhmerov | #topic Current status (roadblocks, what was done last week, plans) | 16:10 |
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| d0ugal | I have been focusing on reviewing the mistral-lib work and spent quite a bit of time making our tests faster. Then today I spent a long time trying to understand the coverage gate and eventually failing. I plan to just continue with various things and to start to move the openstack actions to mistral-extra | 16:10 |
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| mgershen | Hi all! | 16:11 |
| rbrady | I iterated on the custom actions api patch (it got smaller, yaay) and started working on the keystone_utils port to mistral-extra | 16:11 |
| rakhmerov | my status: got back from the PTG last Thu, mostly was doing reviews (there was a big queue of them), started working on workflow global context BP, started sorting out PTG notes and adjusting LP based on them | 16:11 |
| rakhmerov | mgershen: hi Michal! | 16:11 |
| rakhmerov | glad you joined | 16:11 |
| d0ugal | mgershen: hey | 16:11 |
| toure | mgershen hello | 16:11 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: awesome job on the tests! | 16:12 |
| rakhmerov | toure: hi Toure! | 16:12 |
| mgershen | rakhmerov: was here, but didn't notice the time | 16:12 |
| rakhmerov | yep :) | 16:12 |
| d0ugal | rakhmerov: they are no longer really slow - but I still want to try and make them faster. | 16:12 |
| rakhmerov | so, already have a crowd here :) | 16:12 |
| rakhmerov | it's good | 16:12 |
| toure | rakhmerov hi Renat :) | 16:13 |
| rakhmerov | yep | 16:13 |
| rakhmerov | toure, fultonj: we just started talking about our statuses, that's the usually thing we do on the meetings | 16:13 |
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| mgershen | status: working on adding include_output to python-mistralclient (not to cli). good progress, working on tests. we don't have any for client. | 16:14 |
| rakhmerov | just to tell what we've been working on, what kind of issues we have etc. | 16:14 |
| rakhmerov | fultonj, toure: if you have anything to share pls feel free | 16:14 |
| rakhmerov | mgershen: good | 16:14 |
| fultonj | status: I was at PTG but spent time in tripleo and I regret not stopping by to meet any of you. | 16:15 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: do you have any estimations on how faster they can even be? | 16:15 |
| toure | status: just started working on writing the spec / blueprint for error analysis | 16:15 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: I'm just trying to understand if it's something that we need to keep doing | 16:15 |
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| rakhmerov | fultonj: that's ok, we may have a chance still to meet in person | 16:16 |
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| d0ugal | rakhmerov: we probably don't, I doubt there are any other big wins - but I find it fun :) | 16:16 |
| d0ugal | rakhmerov: but I wont spend much time on it, so don't worry about that. | 16:16 |
| rakhmerov | toure: ooh, cool. So do you think I can assign this BP to you? | 16:16 |
| toure | rakhmerov sure, I would like to work on it | 16:16 |
| d0ugal | is there a blueprint already? | 16:16 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: yeah, I agree, it's fun. So maybe my suggestion then is to keep doing it on the background? | 16:17 |
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| rakhmerov | meaning that if you notice something you can go ahead and fix it | 16:17 |
| rakhmerov | that's what I usually do | 16:17 |
| rakhmerov | refactorings, renamings etc. | 16:17 |
| d0ugal | rakhmerov: yup, that's the plan. | 16:17 |
| rakhmerov | toure: ok | 16:17 |
| toure | rakhmerov is it the seperation of error? | 16:18 |
| rakhmerov | #action rakhmerov: assign "Error analysis BP" to Toure | 16:18 |
| rakhmerov | toure: what do you mean? | 16:18 |
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| toure | rakhmerov I didn't know if you had one in progress | 16:18 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: yeah, there is a BP but it's not detailed enough I think | 16:19 |
| d0ugal | k | 16:19 |
| rakhmerov | nope, no one is working on that now | 16:19 |
| rakhmerov | at least actively | 16:19 |
| rakhmerov | you can take it | 16:19 |
| toure | cool | 16:19 |
| toure | ack | 16:19 |
| rakhmerov | gimme a sec, I'll find it | 16:19 |
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| rakhmerov | ok, here it is: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral/+spec/mistral-debug | 16:20 |
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| rakhmerov | but I think we need to rename it properly | 16:20 |
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| rakhmerov | "Workflow error analysis" probably sounds better | 16:21 |
| toure | :) was just about to write that | 16:21 |
| toure | :) | 16:21 |
| rbrady | rakhmerov: that spec is the endpoint and json result, correct? | 16:21 |
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| rakhmerov | toure: ok, just assigned and renamed | 16:22 |
| rakhmerov | it's yours :) | 16:22 |
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| rakhmerov | rbrady: correct | 16:22 |
| rbrady | rakhmerov: ack. thanks | 16:22 |
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| toure | rakhmerov thanks | 16:22 |
| rakhmerov | toure: I'm gonna put some more details into it tomorrow but you feel free to put yours | 16:23 |
| toure | ack | 16:23 |
| rakhmerov | rbrady: what about your status? | 16:23 |
| rbrady | I iterated on the custom actions api patch (it got smaller, yaay) and started working on the keystone_utils port to mistral-extra | 16:23 |
| rakhmerov | :) I looked at it quickly, looks good so far | 16:24 |
| rakhmerov | awesome | 16:24 |
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| rbrady | rakhmerov: thanks. I'm hoping the custom actions is pretty close to done. the keystone_utils patch may take a little more time as I'm trying to work with / around using oslo_cfg | 16:24 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: I still didn't have a chance to talk to you and rbrady about some suggestions you made regarding this BP | 16:24 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: do you think we can do now? Or it will take too long? | 16:25 |
| rakhmerov | rbrady: yep | 16:25 |
| rakhmerov | I'll open a new topic | 16:25 |
| rakhmerov | #topic Open discussion | 16:25 |
| d0ugal | rakhmerov: it might take a while, can we quickly discuss the ansible actions first? Then I can try and explain it | 16:25 |
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| rakhmerov | d0ugal: np | 16:26 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal, fultonj: go ahead | 16:26 |
| fultonj | #topic mistral-ansible-actions | 16:26 |
| fultonj | this cycle i'm going to be implementing tripleo + ceph-ansible integration https://review.openstack.org/#/c/387631 | 16:26 |
| rakhmerov | #topic mistral-ansible-actions | 16:26 |
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| fultonj | I am planning to use d0ugal's mistral-ansible-actions | 16:26 |
| fultonj | My understanding is that there will be a mistral-extra where this might live in the future | 16:26 |
| d0ugal | https://github.com/d0ugal/mistral-ansible-actions | 16:26 |
| rakhmerov | yes | 16:27 |
| fultonj | My plan in the meantime is to put in in tripleo-common where other custom mistractions actions live | 16:27 |
| fultonj | When mistral-lib is ready perhaps mistral-ansible-actions could be added in the future | 16:27 |
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| d0ugal | I had mentioned this to rakhmerov before briefly I think but wanted to make sure we shared the idea in the meeting | 16:27 |
| rakhmerov | small correction: mistral-extra is probably the right place for them | 16:28 |
| d0ugal | It is the first time Mistral will have actions for integrating to something externally (beyond OpenStack) | 16:28 |
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| rakhmerov | yes, that's true | 16:28 |
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| rakhmerov | so, generally, I think it's OK unless these actions are not generic enough | 16:28 |
| d0ugal | so we may want to this about how we do that generally and what the requirements are for adding more actions | 16:28 |
| rakhmerov | e.g. if they are specific to TripleO or something like that | 16:29 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: yes | 16:29 |
| d0ugal | right, and I think it is important that we have some way to automate testing - we should be able to do some basic testing with ansible (call a playbook that doesn't do anything maybe) | 16:29 |
| fultonj | do you want to require someone adding something to mistral-extra to submit a unit test? | 16:30 |
| rakhmerov | rbrady: Ryan, at the PTG when we were discussion what will go to mistral-extra, we decided that it will be OpenStack related stuff. I'm trying to understand if it should be ONLY OpenStack specific stuff or not | 16:30 |
| mgershen | in PTG it was said mistral-extra is for openstack related things. | 16:30 |
| d0ugal | fultonj: I think we need unit tests as a minimum, but it would be better if we could have some sort of integration test - even if it is very simple. | 16:31 |
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| d0ugal | fultonj: at the moment this is just one action, but it will be hard over time for a mistral team to verify the actions all work otherwise. | 16:31 |
| d0ugal | fultonj: I guess tripleo-ci might test it eventually - but that is a special case :) | 16:31 |
| rakhmerov | mgershen: yes, right. That's what we said. But is it a problem if we put ansible actions in there too? | 16:31 |
| fultonj | d0ugal: sounds good to me. i think it should be tested on mistral's side too | 16:32 |
| fultonj | e.g. i have a test i run to make sure i can run the hello world playbook | 16:32 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal, fultonj: yes, testing action is our pain now, we'd like to address this issue | 16:32 |
| rbrady | rakhmerov: if we are going to constrain all openstack stuff to one repo, it would be better named as something like mistral-openstack. if we're going to put all upstream supported 3rd party integration code there, mistral-extra seems okay | 16:32 |
| mgershen | rakhmerov: maybe there is a better place for a more "standard" actions. | 16:32 |
| rakhmerov | it's an important part of all action development | 16:32 |
| mgershen | rakhmerov: and about ansible - it might be a security issue for us. | 16:33 |
| rbrady | if an action or something to support an action is general in nature, mistral-lib seems like a good place | 16:33 |
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| d0ugal | +1 | 16:33 |
| rakhmerov | rbrady: I'd rather disagree, because it's just a library, not actuall action packs | 16:33 |
| rakhmerov | I mean mistral-lib | 16:34 |
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| rakhmerov | I'd separate actions from the lib that they use | 16:34 |
| rakhmerov | that's why we wanted to have actions in a separate repo (mistral-extra) | 16:34 |
| rbrady | rakhmerov: are you saying that you'd like to create an additonal repo for such things? | 16:34 |
| rakhmerov | so that we can test them separately etc. | 16:34 |
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| rakhmerov | rbrady: for what things? | 16:35 |
| rakhmerov | sorry, maybe I misunderstood you | 16:35 |
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| rakhmerov | I was talking about why we decided to have OpenStack actions in mistral-extra, not in mistral-lib | 16:35 |
| d0ugal | mgershen: in what way would it be a security issue? | 16:35 |
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| d0ugal | Maybe mistral-extra needs a configuration - somebody might want only specific openstack projects, or they might only want ansible (or not) etc. | 16:36 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: 100% agree | 16:36 |
| rakhmerov | it should be an option used at installation time what action packs to use | 16:36 |
| d0ugal | Then mistral-extra can have a wide selection of actions (which IMO will be great for mistral adoption) but not everyone needs them all | 16:36 |
| rakhmerov | to install | 16:36 |
| rakhmerov | yes | 16:37 |
| rbrady | rakhmerov: yes - we decided that openstack integration should be placed in mistral-extra. From your question, I don't think we should constrain to only openstack integration in mistral-extra. | 16:37 |
| rakhmerov | rbrady: yes | 16:37 |
| rbrady | rakhmerov: if we constrain a library to be openstack only, it should have openstack in the name | 16:37 |
| d0ugal | I think you both agree :) | 16:37 |
| rakhmerov | rbrady: no-no, that's fine | 16:37 |
| mgershen | d0ugal: ansible can create files on the VM it is running on. it's look std.ssh that you need the password or key in order to get access to the VM mistral is running on. | 16:37 |
| rakhmerov | I mean, I was just saying that there shouldn't be any actual actions in mistral-lib, that's all I was protecting | 16:38 |
| d0ugal | mgershen: good point - but it can only access what the Mistral user can access. | 16:38 |
| rbrady | rakhmerov: I'm saying that a general use action, e.g. base actions should be in mistral-lib | 16:38 |
| d0ugal | mgershen: would making it optional in mistral-extra via a config be okay with you? | 16:38 |
| rakhmerov | rbrady: yes! | 16:39 |
| rakhmerov | :) | 16:39 |
| rakhmerov | we're on the same page | 16:39 |
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| rbrady | rakhmerov: ack. | 16:39 |
| fultonj | mgershen: i was assuming the user would need to set that those things up, e.g. configure SSH keys etc. | 16:39 |
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| d0ugal | fultonj: but ansible can operate on localhost. so it gives you a way to run a command on the machine running mistral | 16:40 |
| fultonj | the action would need to enable the mistral user beyond the default | 16:40 |
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| mgershen | d0ugal: I think optional is a good approach and we can talk about more details later. | 16:41 |
| d0ugal | ok | 16:41 |
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| rakhmerov | yes, I think it's just a matter of prerequisites for a certain action pack | 16:41 |
| rakhmerov | that needs to be documented etc. | 16:42 |
| mgershen | fultonj: what d0ugal said | 16:42 |
| fultonj | ack | 16:42 |
| rakhmerov | so, then is everyone ok with ansible actions living in mistral-extra? | 16:42 |
| rakhmerov | along with OpenStack actions | 16:42 |
| d0ugal | I guess this should be documented somewhere? In mistral-extra maybe? | 16:43 |
| rakhmerov | and I agree with d0ugal, we'll need to have flexibility on what to install from the whole bunch of actions | 16:43 |
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| mgershen | if we can make them optional, I think it's fine | 16:43 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: documented what? | 16:43 |
| d0ugal | rakhmerov: what mistral-extra is and what it should contain :) | 16:43 |
| rakhmerov | sure | 16:44 |
| rakhmerov | it's a part of this whole work | 16:44 |
| rakhmerov | we're just in the beginning | 16:44 |
| toure | +1 mistral-extra should contain various actions | 16:44 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:44 |
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| * rakhmerov renat needs to learn how to use voting system in IRC ;) | 16:45 | |
| d0ugal | :) | 16:45 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:45 |
| rakhmerov | so, anything else you'd like to bring up? | 16:45 |
| mgershen | coverage efforts? | 16:46 |
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| rakhmerov | FYI: once I'll update LP I want to hold a planning meeting for this milestone which ends on Apr 14th | 16:46 |
| d0ugal | mgershen: hah, and our coverage tracking is broken :) | 16:47 |
| rakhmerov | we can devote the next meeting to that | 16:47 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: yeah, can you tell about it? | 16:47 |
| rakhmerov | sharatass is not here | 16:47 |
| d0ugal | the coverage report changes between test runs | 16:47 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: I saw that you found something today but didn't read into it | 16:47 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: you mean w/o any rebases? | 16:48 |
| d0ugal | rakhmerov: Yeah | 16:48 |
| d0ugal | rakhmerov: if you run "python setup.py testr --coverage" twice (or maybe a few times) you will sometimes get different results | 16:48 |
| d0ugal | I don't fully understand why | 16:48 |
| rakhmerov | wooow | 16:48 |
| rakhmerov | how come? :) | 16:48 |
| d0ugal | I really don't know | 16:49 |
| d0ugal | If I were to guess, I would say that some code only runs under specific race conditions? but that doesn't make sense to me | 16:49 |
| d0ugal | This patch for example, it doesn't change anything | 16:50 |
| d0ugal | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/441902/ | 16:50 |
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| d0ugal | and Jenkins ran against patchset 3 twice (I rechecked it) and got different results | 16:50 |
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| rakhmerov | weird | 16:50 |
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| d0ugal | it might be something to do with eventlet and limitations of coverage? | 16:51 |
| d0ugal | but I am making wild guesses at this point :) | 16:51 |
| rakhmerov | don't know really :) | 16:51 |
| mgershen | there were also weird results here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/438913/ | 16:51 |
| mgershen | we all reviewed it and I complained about unexpected coverage result in the comments. | 16:52 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal, mgershen: do I understand right that it's not only about delta between two revisions? But even for one patchset it may be different? | 16:53 |
| mgershen | to tests d0ugal theory I think we can remove some tests (on devstack only) and see if the unsuitability stops when running coverage locally. | 16:53 |
| d0ugal | rakhmerov: yup, even for one patch set | 16:53 |
| rakhmerov | woow | 16:54 |
| d0ugal | rakhmerov: if you edit the cover.sh file locally and remove the git commands - so it always runs the same code you will find it still changes sometimes | 16:54 |
| rakhmerov | so that makes me think that until we figure out what's wrong with it it doesn't make a lot of sense to rely on this gate | 16:54 |
| d0ugal | Agreed | 16:54 |
| d0ugal | I hear murano is using the same script and it works for them - so it must be something "special" about mistral | 16:55 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:55 |
| d0ugal | mgershen: so keep removing tests to find where the problem is? | 16:56 |
| mgershen | d0ugal: yes. | 16:56 |
| d0ugal | good idea. I wonder if I could script that | 16:56 |
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| mgershen | d0ugal: starting from tests that we thing test the files that keep their coverage keeps changing | 16:57 |
| d0ugal | delete each test file one by one, running the tests 4 times each time until the coverage stops changing | 16:57 |
| rakhmerov | :) | 16:57 |
| mgershen | d0ugal: nice idea | 16:57 |
| rakhmerov | yep | 16:57 |
| d0ugal | mgershen: oh, that is probably a better approach - but I am lazy, so I might try and automate it all :D | 16:57 |
| mgershen | d0ugal: really nice!! | 16:57 |
| rakhmerov | otherwise you'll spend a month to find the reason | 16:57 |
| d0ugal | lol | 16:58 |
| rakhmerov | ok, it's about time to finish | 16:58 |
| d0ugal | Okay, I'll try and do that | 16:58 |
| d0ugal | #action d0ugal to find tests that change coverage randomly | 16:58 |
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| rakhmerov | ok | 16:59 |
| rakhmerov | let's stop here | 16:59 |
| rakhmerov | thanks for joining | 16:59 |
| rakhmerov | bye | 17:00 |
| d0ugal | Thanks! | 17:00 |
| mgershen | bye | 17:00 |
| rakhmerov | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Mar 6 17:00:12 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2017/mistral.2017-03-06-16.00.html | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2017/mistral.2017-03-06-16.00.txt | 17:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2017/mistral.2017-03-06-16.00.log.html | 17:00 |
| toure | Thanks bye | 17:00 |
| fultonj | thanks all! | 17:00 |
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| ihrachys | o/ | 21:00 |
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| haleyb | hi | 21:00 |
| asingh_ | hi | 21:00 |
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| boden | howdy | 21:00 |
| sindhu | hi | 21:00 |
| armax | hello | 21:01 |
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| kevinbenton | hi | 21:01 |
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| sshank | Hello | 21:01 |
| kevinbenton | #startmeeting networking | 21:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Mar 6 21:01:54 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is kevinbenton. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking' | 21:01 |
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| dasanind | hi | 21:02 |
| johnsom | o/ | 21:02 |
| kevinbenton | #topic announcements | 21:03 |
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| kevinbenton | It doesn't look like anything new was added for announcements this week to the wiki | 21:03 |
| dasm | o/ | 21:04 |
| kevinbenton | The API job is currently broken and we are waiting for a fix to merge into devstack-gate | 21:04 |
| kevinbenton | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/442123/ | 21:04 |
| ihrachys | yeah, please refrain from W+1 if possible | 21:04 |
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| kevinbenton | ihrachys: is the concern that the devstack-gate will be ejected because of a failure? | 21:05 |
| ihrachys | yeah, we don't want neutron patches to end up on top of it | 21:05 |
| ihrachys | infra were kind enough to promote the fix | 21:05 |
| ihrachys | so now it's in top of the gate | 21:05 |
| ihrachys | hopefully it won't take too long | 21:06 |
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| kevinbenton | ack | 21:06 |
| kevinbenton | does anyone else have any announcements to make? | 21:06 |
| kevinbenton | armax: when are we merging your big context switch patch? | 21:07 |
| ihrachys | kevinbenton: it's in gate | 21:08 |
| kevinbenton | ihrachys: ah, do you have the link to it handy? | 21:08 |
| boden | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/388157/ | 21:08 |
| boden | ? | 21:08 |
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| ihrachys | sure, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/388157/ | 21:08 |
| armax | kevinbenton: I don’t have an exact ETA | 21:08 |
| armax | it’s been approved a few times, but it keeps getting bumped | 21:09 |
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| kevinbenton | #info neutron context module being removed in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/388157/ so imports will break | 21:09 |
| kevinbenton | hopefully it will make it today | 21:09 |
| ihrachys | I assume stadium fixes are all lined to merge right after | 21:09 |
| armax | kevinbenton: as soon as it lands, I’ll check for breakages across the board and fix what I can | 21:10 |
| ihrachys | I tried to find a definite list of those, but failed. so I pushed what I spotted. | 21:10 |
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| armax | ihrachys: we might have missed one or two, but the fixes should be easy to put together | 21:10 |
| ihrachys | aye | 21:10 |
| kevinbenton | ok | 21:11 |
| kevinbenton | #topic bugs | 21:11 |
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| kevinbenton | nothing really critical bug-wise last week | 21:12 |
| kevinbenton | we have one that sounds problematic for HA+ipv6 here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1669765 | 21:13 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1669765 in neutron "RA is not disabled on backup HA routers" [High,Triaged] | 21:13 |
| ihrachys | does dalvarez work on it? or just reported? | 21:13 |
| kevinbenton | looks like just reported, which is why i brought it up | 21:13 |
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| ihrachys | I remember there was discussion about how to fix it, and I felt like Daniel was going to take it | 21:14 |
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| ihrachys | that's why I am asking, so that others don't repeat the same work | 21:14 |
| haleyb | that's what i thought, i hadn't looked for that reason | 21:14 |
| kevinbenton | ok, i'll assign to him | 21:14 |
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| kevinbenton | most of the rest of the stuff was RFEs or lower priority that we don't need to bring up here | 21:15 |
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| kevinbenton | #topic infra liaison | 21:17 |
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| kevinbenton | Nate had to step down being our liaison | 21:17 |
| kevinbenton | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-March/113416.html | 21:17 |
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| ihrachys | that sucks | 21:18 |
| kevinbenton | so we will need a volunteer to take his place | 21:18 |
| njohnston | with great sadness | 21:18 |
| dasm | What does infra liaison do? | 21:18 |
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| dasm | the same what oslo liaison? | 21:18 |
| ihrachys | I think it's mostly approving any changes relevant to neutron gate in project-config and similar repos (also irc bots, pypi, etc.) | 21:19 |
| armax | dasm: review infra patches, gate triage, be contact for infra related questions | 21:19 |
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| dasm | ihrachys: armax ack | 21:19 |
| armax | it’s the bridge between the project and the infra team | 21:19 |
| ihrachys | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons#Infra | 21:19 |
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| armax | dealing with our CI setup etc | 21:19 |
| dasm | if no one will step up, i could take it over | 21:19 |
| kevinbenton | njohnston: thanks for your time so far. come back soon ;) | 21:19 |
| ihrachys | I can do infra part too | 21:20 |
| ihrachys | I am involved in it lately | 21:20 |
| armax | ihrachys, dasm: appreciated, this is not a single man job | 21:20 |
| armax | I am on the list too, but I can’t pull it off on my own | 21:20 |
| dasanind | i would like to do it | 21:20 |
| dasanind | but I will need some help initially | 21:20 |
| kevinbenton | ok | 21:21 |
| ihrachys | kevinbenton: seems like you should close the gate, or you will be flooded with volunteers | 21:21 |
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| dasm | ihrachys: i think it's better to have more volunteers, than lack of them :) | 21:21 |
| ihrachys | I am happy to give a hand to anyone stepping in instead of taking the role | 21:22 |
| kevinbenton | #info dasm, dasanind, armax and ihrachys to be infra liaisons | 21:22 |
| kevinbenton | can one of you update the wiki? | 21:22 |
| armax | kevinbenton: I am already an infra liasion!? | 21:23 |
| ihrachys | I will do | 21:23 |
| kevinbenton | armax: yes, apparently so :) | 21:23 |
| armax | have I just beem demoted and promoted again? | 21:23 |
| armax | there’s no respect for the elderly | 21:23 |
| kevinbenton | armax: no, it's just a PUT operation | 21:23 |
| kevinbenton | i have to respecify or you would be dropped | 21:23 |
| kevinbenton | :) | 21:24 |
| dasm | armax: "elderly"? really?! | 21:24 |
| armax | btw | 21:24 |
| armax | https://docs.openstack.org/developer/neutron/policies/neutron-teams.html | 21:24 |
| armax | https://docs.openstack.org/developer/neutron/policies/neutron-teams.html#core-review-hierarchy | 21:24 |
| armax | there’s a bit of dup here and there | 21:24 |
| armax | it’s time to nuke dougwig | 21:24 |
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| dasm | poor dougwig :/ | 21:25 |
| kevinbenton | ihrachys: can you catch that as well ^^ | 21:25 |
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| ihrachys | yes my lord | 21:25 |
| kevinbenton | thanks :) | 21:25 |
| kevinbenton | ok, moving on | 21:25 |
| kevinbenton | #topic OSC | 21:26 |
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| kevinbenton | Abhishek reached out to me to let me know he couldn't make it to this meeting | 21:26 |
| kevinbenton | so unless someone has any other updates for OSC we'll skip for this week | 21:27 |
| kevinbenton | ok | 21:27 |
| armax | ankur-gupta-f1: | 21:27 |
| armax | he might have something to add | 21:27 |
| dasm | i don't see ankur-gupta-f1 on his desk. | 21:28 |
| armax | dasm: wow, I wish I had your x-ray vision | 21:28 |
| kevinbenton | :) | 21:28 |
| kevinbenton | ok | 21:28 |
| dasm | armax: he's usually sitting next to me :) but not now | 21:28 |
| armax | dasm: :) | 21:29 |
| kevinbenton | i presume john-davidge is out partying at this hour | 21:29 |
| kevinbenton | so no docs update this week | 21:29 |
| ankur-gupta-f4 | Hi | 21:29 |
| ankur-gupta-f4 | Phone irc | 21:29 |
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| kevinbenton | ankur-gupta-f4: hey, any updates for OSC you want to share? | 21:29 |
| ankur-gupta-f4 | Osc transition is nearing completion. Few core commands left | 21:30 |
| ankur-gupta-f4 | And waiting on the plugin advanced commands | 21:30 |
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| ankur-gupta-f4 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/439148/ | 21:31 |
| ankur-gupta-f4 | Has a complete info | 21:31 |
| ankur-gupta-f4 | Thats it | 21:31 |
| kevinbenton | ankur-gupta-f4: thanks | 21:31 |
| ankur-gupta-f4 | Np | 21:31 |
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| kevinbenton | #topic neutron-lib | 21:32 |
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| kevinbenton | boden: any big changes after armax's context comes in? | 21:32 |
| boden | hi | 21:33 |
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| boden | so we have one bigger one comming up that will replace neutron.callbacks with those in neutron-lib | 21:33 |
| boden | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/439146/ | 21:33 |
| boden | but it’ll have to wait for a new release of lib first | 21:33 |
| armax | woot! | 21:33 |
| ihrachys | +208, -1386? | 21:33 |
| ihrachys | can I +100 it? | 21:33 |
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| ihrachys | boden: have we requested a new release already? | 21:34 |
| dasm | boden: new release? we can think about that :) | 21:34 |
| ihrachys | because I think kevinbenton wanted to speed releases up | 21:34 |
| dasm | ihrachys: i didn't see anything | 21:34 |
| boden | we need to wait for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/439610/ | 21:34 |
| armax | boden: done | 21:35 |
| kevinbenton | armax: HA! | 21:35 |
| boden | once we have a release with ^, then we can proceed to start the fun | 21:35 |
| dasm | boden: when this change will be merged, i'll cut new release | 21:35 |
| kevinbenton | armax: i knew i would get you to review my gross decorator eventuallhttp://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-March/113416.html | 21:35 |
| kevinbenton | how embarrassing | 21:35 |
| kevinbenton | i just emptied my clipboard on accident | 21:35 |
| armax | but with kevinbenton I am not sure if you won’t be in constant catch up mode | 21:35 |
| armax | he likes to churn a lot of code | 21:36 |
| ihrachys | at least it's not a password | 21:36 |
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| ihrachys | armax: just -2 all his patches | 21:36 |
| armax | kevinbenton: damn it, you’re right | 21:36 |
| kevinbenton | ihrachys: that's what you think :) | 21:36 |
| armax | I intentionally left it uncommented | 21:36 |
| armax | there, I left a comment | 21:36 |
| kevinbenton | so after that goes in, a neutron-lib release would be nice | 21:36 |
| boden | sure. it’ll free up the callback work anyway; and that one will be nice to get under our belt early in teh release | 21:37 |
| kevinbenton | boden: so we're not leaving behind shims to keep existing imports working | 21:37 |
| boden | no shims | 21:37 |
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| boden | there are a few others in the queue; I sent notes about them to the dev ML last week.. you can find them in the lib impact query in on the wiki | 21:38 |
| kevinbenton | is there a reason we don't want the shims? | 21:39 |
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| ihrachys | kevinbenton: that's soft power ;) | 21:39 |
| kevinbenton | i'm fine with it in this case since we have several months for people to adapt, just curious if there is a technical reason | 21:39 |
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| armax | kevinbenton: shims slow us down | 21:40 |
| armax | and we ain’t got time for that | 21:40 |
| boden | kevinbenton: we doc’d that appraoch somewhere.. I’m looking for it | 21:41 |
| boden | kevinbenton: do you see some special need for shims? | 21:42 |
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| kevinbenton | boden: no, not in this case since we have such a large transition period | 21:42 |
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| kevinbenton | boden: i just wanted to make sure there wasn't some issue preventing us from using them in general | 21:42 |
| kevinbenton | in case we get rid of something close to the end of this cycle | 21:43 |
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| boden | kevinbenton any more discussion on the callback approach? | 21:44 |
| kevinbenton | #info dasm to make a neutron-lib release after https://review.openstack.org/#/c/439610/ merges | 21:44 |
| kevinbenton | boden: nope | 21:44 |
| boden | ok 1 last thing | 21:44 |
| boden | armax and I were chatting last week… I started a curated list of neutron core “rehoming” patches — this would be a good list of core/driver folks to focus on reviewing if they can | 21:45 |
| boden | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-lib-core-review-queue | 21:45 |
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| boden | just want to make sure we get some experienced neutron core eyes on these patches :) | 21:45 |
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| boden | nothing else from me | 21:46 |
| dasm | boden: ok, i won't look at this. noted | 21:46 |
| boden | lol | 21:46 |
| ihrachys | :) | 21:46 |
| armax | boden: it’s on my bookmarks | 21:46 |
| kevinbenton | ack | 21:47 |
| kevinbenton | #topic open discussion | 21:47 |
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| kevinbenton | anyone else have anything to discuss? | 21:47 |
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| asingh_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bug/1563069 | 21:48 |
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| asingh_ | there are 4 patches for centralizing config options remaining | 21:49 |
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| electrocucaracha | wsgi stuff? | 21:49 |
| kevinbenton | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bug/1563069+is:open | 21:49 |
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| ihrachys | electrocucaracha: do we have devstack patch that makes use of your wsgi script? | 21:50 |
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| electrocucaracha | ihrachys: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/439191/ | 21:50 |
| asingh_ | kevinbenton as discussed on these patches ,merging them would affect stadium projects, what's the fate of these patches ? | 21:50 |
| ihrachys | electrocucaracha: I still see neutron-server logs in logdir | 21:51 |
| electrocucaracha | ihrachys: It's having a weird behavior but at least it deploys it | 21:51 |
| ihrachys | well it's not used in actual tests? | 21:51 |
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| electrocucaracha | ihrachys: yeah, its' necessary to make neutron-api as default option | 21:51 |
| kevinbenton | asingh_: it's fine to merge them now. i think if you send an email to the mailing list that would be good as a heads up | 21:51 |
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| asingh_ | kevinbenton ok, thanks, will do | 21:52 |
| electrocucaracha | ihrachys: I saw that you have been working on that, but not sure if I've to rebase my patch on all of yours | 21:52 |
| ihrachys | kevinbenton: yes, I believe the only thing to be cautious about is to make sure we land them with giving stadium projects a chance to fix without squashing | 21:52 |
| ihrachys | one breaking change in a week or smth | 21:52 |
| kevinbenton | ihrachys: well for config import moving that seems like overkill | 21:52 |
| ihrachys | electrocucaracha: no I abandoned all my patches for wsgi | 21:53 |
| kevinbenton | ihrachys: it's something that makes sense logically to do in one change | 21:53 |
| ihrachys | kevinbenton: well you can land all of them in one go, but do it in one go indeed | 21:53 |
| ihrachys | I mean don't interleave with other breaking changes | 21:53 |
| electrocucaracha | ihrachys: I mean the patches for deprecated neutron legacy in devstack | 21:53 |
| ihrachys | like callback registry and stuff | 21:53 |
| sindhu | kevinbenton: ihrachys : needed some direction for this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/433234/ | 21:53 |
| ihrachys | electrocucaracha: those are not relevant, not directly at least | 21:53 |
| kevinbenton | sindhu: ok. i will add it to my review list | 21:54 |
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| ihrachys | ok if it was mentioned already, a heads-up for the team that I am working on switching whole gate to lib/neutron. Reviews welcome at: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:new-neutron-devstack-in-gate | 21:54 |
| sindhu | kevinbenton: thanks :) | 21:54 |
| kevinbenton | electrocucaracha: this is running the RPC server inside of apache | 21:55 |
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| kevinbenton | electrocucaracha: is that the way we want to proceed? | 21:55 |
| electrocucaracha | kevinbenton: afaik, it's only running api | 21:55 |
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| kevinbenton | electrocucaracha: where is it skipping the RPC listeners stuff? | 21:56 |
| electrocucaracha | kevinbenton: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/409351/4/neutron/server/wsgi.py@29 | 21:56 |
| ihrachys | electrocucaracha: it runs whole core plugin, so it also runs RPC | 21:56 |
| kevinbenton | ihrachys: we do have a separate rpc workers logic, we may want to move all RPC listens to there if they aren't already | 21:57 |
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| kevinbenton | we can continue this discussion offline | 21:57 |
| electrocucaracha | ihrachys: regarding the devref, I'm gonna remove it once that it info is placed somewhere esle | 21:57 |
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| kevinbenton | anyone else have things to announce in the last 2 mins? | 21:58 |
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| kevinbenton | ok | 21:58 |
| kevinbenton | that's all then | 21:58 |
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| kevinbenton | thanks everyone! | 21:58 |
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| dasm | thanks | 21:59 |
| kevinbenton | #endmeeting | 21:59 |
| sindhu | thanks | 21:59 |
| dasm | o/ | 21:59 |
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| electrocucaracha | thank you | 21:59 |
| asingh_ | thanks | 21:59 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Mar 6 21:59:04 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2017/networking.2017-03-06-21.01.html | 21:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2017/networking.2017-03-06-21.01.txt | 21:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2017/networking.2017-03-06-21.01.log.html | 21:59 |
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| dasanind | thanks | 21:59 |
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