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anteaya | #startmeeting third-party | 15:00 |
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openstack | Meeting started Mon Oct 17 15:00:01 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is anteaya. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: third-party)" | 15:00 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'third_party' | 15:00 |
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anteaya | hello | 15:00 |
anteaya | to start I have an announcement | 15:00 |
anteaya | #info the meeting next week will be skipped due to summit: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/irc-meetings/tree/meetings/third-party-meeting.yaml | 15:00 |
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anteaya | does anyone have anything they would like to discuss today? | 15:01 |
wznoinsk | hi | 15:01 |
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anteaya | hello wznoinsk | 15:02 |
anteaya | quiet today | 15:02 |
wznoinsk | if nobody has anything else I could share my workaround for getting nodepool working with ironic and baremetal nodes | 15:02 |
anteaya | anything you want to talk about? | 15:02 |
anteaya | sure that would be great | 15:02 |
anteaya | I'll give you a topic | 15:03 |
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anteaya | #topic nodepool with ironic | 15:03 |
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anteaya | wznoinsk: all yours | 15:03 |
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wznoinsk | the issue was nodepool was connecting (ssh) to the newly provisioned node to early (while sshd was giving message the 'system is booting up'), nodepool/paramiko didn't have proper handling of that hence provisioning of the new node was failing | 15:04 |
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wznoinsk | a solution or a workaround was simple, it was to configure ssh to start later (putting After multi-user.target in its systemd unit file) | 15:04 |
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anteaya | so you have nodepool working with bare metal nodes now? | 15:06 |
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wznoinsk | correct, on the way to having sriov/pci passthru CI in our lab | 15:06 |
anteaya | wonderful | 15:06 |
asselin__ | o/ | 15:07 |
wznoinsk | the plan is to have SRIOV/PCI in VMs but that's a long shot | 15:07 |
anteaya | would you be willing to show an example of the configuration modification in a paste? | 15:07 |
anteaya | hello asselin__ | 15:07 |
wznoinsk | http://paste.openstack.org/show/585970/ | 15:08 |
anteaya | thank you | 15:08 |
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anteaya | #link sample config change http://paste.openstack.org/show/585970/ | 15:09 |
anteaya | any more you'd like to share on this wznoinsk? | 15:09 |
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wznoinsk | nope, will keep you posted on sriov/pci ci | 15:10 |
anteaya | wonderful thank you | 15:10 |
anteaya | anyone else with any more discussion on this topic? | 15:10 |
anteaya | thanks so much for sharing | 15:10 |
anteaya | #topic open discussion | 15:11 |
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anteaya | does anyone have anything else they would like to discuss today? | 15:11 |
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anteaya | does anyone have any objection to me closing the meeting? | 15:12 |
anteaya | thanks so much for attending | 15:12 |
asselin__ | thanks anteaya | 15:12 |
anteaya | enjoy summit if you are going, I am not going to be in attendance | 15:12 |
anteaya | see you week after next | 15:12 |
anteaya | thanks asselin__ | 15:12 |
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anteaya | #endmeeting | 15:13 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Mon Oct 17 15:13:00 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:13 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2016/third_party.2016-10-17-15.00.html | 15:13 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2016/third_party.2016-10-17-15.00.txt | 15:13 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2016/third_party.2016-10-17-15.00.log.html | 15:13 |
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armax | ahoy | 20:59 |
hichihara | hi | 20:59 |
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pc_m | o/ | 21:00 |
alraddarla | hi | 21:00 |
yamahata | hello | 21:00 |
kevinbenton | hi | 21:00 |
dasm | o/ | 21:00 |
mlavalle | o/ | 21:00 |
armax | #startmeeting networking | 21:00 |
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* haleyb wonders if this is a 3-hour tour on the good ship neutron | 21:00 | |
openstack | Meeting started Mon Oct 17 21:00:51 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is armax. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking' | 21:00 |
njohnston | o/ | 21:00 |
dasanind_ | o/ | 21:01 |
amotoki | hi | 21:01 |
HenryG | o/ | 21:01 |
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armax | welcome everyone | 21:01 |
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johnsom | o/ | 21:02 |
armax | thanks for joining this neutron meeting! | 21:02 |
armax | the agenda for today | 21:02 |
armax | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings | 21:02 |
armax | #topic Announcements | 21:02 |
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armax | the design summit is one week away if you have not noticed | 21:03 |
dougwig | o/ | 21:03 |
armax | the summit schedule is up | 21:03 |
armax | https://www.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/summit-schedule/global-search?t=Neutron%3A | 21:03 |
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armax | this is the last summit in the well known format and as such it’s gonna be the last one where we’re gonna have a contributors meetup | 21:04 |
armax | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/summit-schedule/events/17227 | 21:04 |
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armax | if any of you is staying the Friday, I’d strongly invite you to sign up on the related etherpad | 21:04 |
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armax | because of the summit it’s safer to cancel the next couple of meetings | 21:07 |
manjeets | o/ | 21:07 |
armax | so the next Neutron team meeting is going to be on | 21:07 |
armax | Tue 8th | 21:08 |
armax | November | 21:08 |
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njohnston | I'll be serving as an official in the US election, so I will miss it. | 21:09 |
kevinbenton | njohnston: you running for president? | 21:09 |
njohnston | Yes, haven't you seen the TV ads for the FWaaS party? | 21:10 |
manjeets | :) | 21:10 |
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armax | any other announcement? | 21:10 |
armax | it’ll be difficult to top njohnston’ one | 21:10 |
hichihara | Social event in Summit? | 21:11 |
armax | mlavalle organizing one | 21:11 |
mlavalle | yeah | 21:11 |
dasm | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-October/105757.html | 21:11 |
armax | I’ll defer to him for any further details | 21:11 |
mlavalle | here's the message I sent to the ML | 21:11 |
mlavalle | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-October/105757.html | 21:11 |
armax | mlavalle: if you struggle with finding a good venue, we can always meet on the beach | 21:11 |
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mlavalle | we have a good venue | 21:12 |
hichihara | mlavalle: +1 :) | 21:12 |
mlavalle | so far 30 people have confirmed | 21:12 |
dougwig | usually about 50-100 show up, iirc. | 21:12 |
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armax | mlavalle: let’s hope they don’t cancel on us as it happened in Austin? | 21:12 |
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mlavalle | armax: I'll keep reminding people | 21:13 |
armax | mlavalle: ack | 21:13 |
armax | ok next topic | 21:13 |
armax | #topic blueprints | 21:14 |
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armax | I still see people registering neutron blueprints in launchpad being completing oblivious to the RFE process | 21:14 |
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armax | I’d like to remind here that blueprints are created at the very end of the RFE process and if and only if the drivers team gives a green light | 21:16 |
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blogan | is there any way to add a warning when creatin ga blueprint in LP? | 21:16 |
armax | unfortunately I can’t see a good one | 21:16 |
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armax | but the landing page, if someone cared to read it, does provide instructions | 21:17 |
armax | anyhoo | 21:17 |
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armax | we have not scrubbed the dashboard for the first Ocata milestone | 21:19 |
armax | #link https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/ocata-1 | 21:19 |
armax | but we’ll do it soon | 21:19 |
armax | if you are involved with any of the activities being tracked on that dashboard | 21:20 |
armax | please consider providing an update on the blueprint whiteboard | 21:20 |
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armax | #topic Bugs and Gate failures | 21:21 |
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armax | Last week’s deputy was john-davige, nothing scary to report | 21:22 |
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armax | even our Grafana dashboards | 21:22 |
armax | #link http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate | 21:22 |
armax | don’t seem to reflect anything alarming | 21:22 |
kevinbenton | yay | 21:22 |
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armax | kevinbenton: you must have been on vacation? | 21:22 |
HenryG | ouch | 21:22 |
kevinbenton | yeah, i didn't get anything merged :) | 21:23 |
armax | kevinbenton: that explains it | 21:23 |
armax | :) | 21:23 |
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armax | I am still licking the wounds post dhcp-turmoil | 21:23 |
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armax | as far as bugs being reported since the start of Ocata I can already count 150 in the span of a month | 21:24 |
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armax | we only fixed a third, if any of you has any idea on how to improve that ratio, I’d love to hear it | 21:25 |
armax | because even though we managed to keep the size of our backlog relative steady | 21:25 |
armax | we can’t seem the squash it | 21:25 |
armax | and we hover over the 800 bug count mark | 21:26 |
armax | which is pretty annoying | 21:26 |
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armax | other than revoking kevinbenton | 21:27 |
armax | gerrit rights | 21:27 |
armax | I can’t think of anything else | 21:27 |
armax | and I must add | 21:27 |
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dougwig | i think kevin is a net win, so that might hurt. | 21:27 |
armax | revoking my +2/+A rights too | 21:27 |
trevormc | One way to keep down the bug count would encourage developers to submit only fixes instead of a bug a nd a fix. Right? or do we prefer how it is now? | 21:28 |
armax | dougwig: ok, I would agree with that statement, actually | 21:28 |
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armax | trevormc: you mean cheating? :) | 21:28 |
armax | trevormc: or lying? | 21:28 |
dasm | the other thing would be to delete a code. | 21:28 |
dasm | then we wouldn't have a bugs. am i rite? | 21:28 |
armax | because that doesn’t change the fact that hte codebse is buggy :) | 21:28 |
manjeets | dasm then there will be failures | 21:29 |
armax | I think dasm is onto something! | 21:29 |
armax | this probably deserves more discussion, but I think one of the issues I see is that developers hog the bug report for too long | 21:30 |
kevinbenton | +1 | 21:30 |
armax | and the bug stays in progress for ever | 21:30 |
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kevinbenton | I've encountered several times where it's already assigned so i won't dig into it | 21:30 |
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armax | because from the number I can see that the number of new/unassigned bugs is relatively low | 21:31 |
kevinbenton | is there a way we can auto unassign after a week of no activity? | 21:31 |
dougwig | an auto-unassign after N days of idle is intriguing. | 21:31 |
armax | kevinbenton: I do that, even though not that frequently | 21:31 |
armax | and the reason I do that less frequently is that you can’t just rely on a script to auto unassign | 21:31 |
armax | you need some time in figuring out whether the bug report next status | 21:32 |
dasm | armax: in that case, maybe would be good to add one more thing for bug deputy? to verify that? | 21:32 |
amotoki | it might be useful to listi such bugs though. | 21:32 |
trevormc | What about those patch sets where it has jenkins +1 just no one has reviewed it? Is it the owner's responsibility to bring it up in meetings or the IRC chat? | 21:32 |
dasm | trevormc: ++ | 21:32 |
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armax | dasm: right, but ihar and I were contemplating making the deputy duties doing some proactive backporting | 21:33 |
manjeets | trevormc, +++ | 21:33 |
alraddarla | trevormc: agere | 21:33 |
alraddarla | agree* i'm glad i can type | 21:33 |
armax | we don’t want to swamp the deputy too much | 21:33 |
dasm | armax: true | 21:33 |
armax | ok, let me mull over on this a bit more | 21:33 |
armax | we can certainly monitor this area during the team meeting | 21:34 |
dougwig | armax: bug deputy and stable team are two different roles. instead of merging them, perhaps we have a stable nominee for each week as well? | 21:34 |
armax | that’s what this topic is for after all | 21:34 |
armax | dougwig: you mean estabilish a stable backport deputy? | 21:34 |
dougwig | armax: yes. | 21:34 |
dasm | dougwig: intriguing idea | 21:34 |
armax | dougwig: we can talk about this next week and see where we go with it | 21:35 |
dasm | armax: "Nov 8th" week | 21:35 |
armax | I think it was always ihar’s intention of making this a rotating effort | 21:35 |
armax | dasm: we are going to meet secretly at the summit | 21:35 |
armax | dasm: hence next week | 21:35 |
dasm | NOOO!!!1111onoenoe :'( | 21:35 |
armax | dasm: and tell no-one about the outcome | 21:36 |
armax | and ignore any suggestion | 21:36 |
electrocucaracha | armax: how other projects keeps their numbers low? | 21:36 |
armax | comment or feedback | 21:36 |
dougwig | that's where we adopt a complete NFV focus, right? | 21:36 |
armax | electrocucaracha: numbers are pretty high overall | 21:37 |
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trevormc | electrocucaracha: In another project I work in, I observe developers uploading patch sets without a bug. They reserve bug reporting for users and operators. | 21:37 |
armax | electrocucaracha: but I must admit I have not talked to the respective PTL’s | 21:37 |
armax | so it’s something I can work on | 21:37 |
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electrocucaracha | yeah, maybe it's a common know issue, but it's better to keep a short active list instead of a longer wishlist | 21:38 |
armax | again, I am less concerned to have a 1000 bugs in the backlog at any given time | 21:39 |
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armax | assumed we can close bugs as fast as they are openee | 21:39 |
armax | opened | 21:39 |
armax | or faster | 21:39 |
armax | but first and foremost | 21:40 |
manjeets | for some bugs discussion goes too long on just choosing a solution | 21:40 |
armax | not give reporters the chance to file them in the first place would be the way to go | 21:40 |
armax | but one can only hope for so muh | 21:40 |
armax | much | 21:40 |
armax | ok let’s move on for now | 21:41 |
armax | but before we do | 21:41 |
armax | dasm: was wondering about a deputy post-summit | 21:41 |
armax | if anyone is interested, please raise your virtual hand | 21:41 |
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armax | if not, it’ll fall back to me | 21:41 |
armax | but please, don’t be shy/lazy and raise your virtual hand | 21:42 |
trevormc | I would be interested in shadowing, just so I know what to do when I volunteer for it sometime. | 21:42 |
armax | trevormc: there’s a very detailed how to guide | 21:42 |
* manjeets wanted to do that but it would be his first time | 21:42 | |
armax | #link http://docs.openstack.org/developer/neutron/policies/bugs.html#neutron-bug-deputy | 21:42 |
electrocucaracha | armax, post-summit means... the first week of november right? | 21:42 |
dougwig | the week after the summit? i can do it. | 21:43 |
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armax | electrocucaracha: correct | 21:43 |
dasm | electrocucaracha: yes, until next meeting when someone will be picked | 21:43 |
armax | ok between manjeets, trevormc and dougwig who wins? | 21:44 |
dasm | dougwig: ++ thanks | 21:44 |
armax | ok | 21:45 |
manjeets | I vote for dougwig and trevormc before me would be right choice | 21:45 |
armax | #action dougwig deputy for the week of Oct 31st | 21:45 |
dougwig | i win. i win all the things. i will be the best bug deputy you have ever seen, you don't even know what you're missing yet . make launchpad great again! | 21:45 |
armax | dougwig: you’ll get some tricks and treats in the post | 21:45 |
kevinbenton | we will have the smallest bug counts | 21:45 |
* electrocucaracha lol | 21:45 | |
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armax | ok next one up | 21:46 |
armax | #topic Docs | 21:46 |
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armax | I am not sure we have an official Doc dude or gal | 21:46 |
armax | all I know is that our docs still shows emagana | 21:46 |
armax | and we should change that | 21:47 |
armax | sam-I-Am doesn’t seem to be online either | 21:47 |
HenryG | He is flying today | 21:47 |
armax | we have 33 docs bug open | 21:48 |
armax | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.tag=doc | 21:48 |
armax | we suck | 21:48 |
armax | we should have 0 | 21:48 |
armax | or close to zero | 21:48 |
armax | HenryG: where to? | 21:49 |
dasm | isn't this that, person who implemented the change, should also update the docs? | 21:49 |
armax | dasm: ideally yes, and that’s the operating assumption I am under | 21:49 |
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trevormc | I like to tag the person as a reviewer at least. | 21:49 |
HenryG | armax: around in circles, probably | 21:49 |
alraddarla | Just my two cents: but being able to fix doc bugs is helpful as a newbie because it requires me to read up on Neutron while still being able to look into some of the code | 21:50 |
armax | I’ll attempt to clean up the list between now and the time after the summit | 21:50 |
armax | we need a new official doc liasion regardless | 21:50 |
armax | this table | 21:51 |
armax | #link http://docs.openstack.org/developer/neutron/policies/neutron-teams.html#core-review-hierarchy | 21:51 |
armax | is a little outdated | 21:51 |
armax | #action armax to refresh page http://docs.openstack.org/developer/neutron/policies/neutron-teams.html | 21:52 |
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armax | next topic | 21:53 |
armax | #topic OSC | 21:53 |
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armax | amotoki anything newsworthy you’d like to share? | 21:53 |
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amotoki | I'd like to have a review for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348097/ | 21:53 |
amotoki | neutron OSC plugins can use this as a utility. | 21:53 |
armax | amotoki: consider it done | 21:54 |
armax | amotoki: anything else? | 21:54 |
amotoki | For the summit, I am preparing a list of a gap and/or missing points. i'll share next week or some. that's all | 21:54 |
armax | amotoki: cool, thanks | 21:55 |
armax | #topic Neutron-lib | 21:55 |
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armax | HenryG/dougwig | 21:55 |
HenryG | Nothing of great interest is happening | 21:55 |
armax | HenryG: nothing? | 21:55 |
HenryG | Just mundane things | 21:55 |
armax | didn’t you see my amazing patches? | 21:55 |
HenryG | That's api-ref | 21:56 |
armax | no | 21:56 |
armax | that one | 21:56 |
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armax | the one that introduced the plugin registry, I’ll be working on bringing the context and policy engine to neutron lib later today | 21:56 |
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armax | or directory as I have actually called it | 21:57 |
HenryG | OK I didn't see you took it out of WIP | 21:57 |
armax | but I am open to suggestion | 21:57 |
armax | s | 21:57 |
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kevinbenton | what is the reason for brining the policy engine into neutron-lib | 21:57 |
armax | kevinbenton: because the context depends on it | 21:57 |
armax | but maybe I can get away with it | 21:58 |
armax | I haven’t actually finished everything up | 21:58 |
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kevinbenton | ack | 21:58 |
armax | ok | 21:58 |
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dougwig | kevinbenton: neutron-policy-oslo-thing-wrapper-lib, of course. | 21:58 |
armax | 2 minutes left, I am no longer running these meeting as effeciently as I used to | 21:58 |
armax | I am getting sloppy | 21:58 |
boden | there are a few other interesting patches for review in lib.. such as the callback api updates and hacking checks rollout using incubation | 21:59 |
boden | if you get time | 21:59 |
armax | boden: aye, I’ll try to be more involved in neutron-lib this cycle | 21:59 |
boden | or at least I want you to think they’re interesting | 21:59 |
HenryG | And this one is lib-related: https://review.openstack.org/337731 | 21:59 |
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armax | HenryG: ack | 21:59 |
armax | ok | 21:59 |
armax | we’re almost at time | 22:00 |
mlavalle | boden: are you the author? | 22:00 |
armax | thanks everyone for joining | 22:00 |
hichihara | bye | 22:00 |
hoangcx | bye | 22:00 |
armax | and safe travels if you’re going to the summity | 22:00 |
armax | #endmeeting | 22:00 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Mon Oct 17 22:00:24 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:00 |
mlavalle | see you guys in Barcelona? | 22:00 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2016/networking.2016-10-17-21.00.html | 22:00 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2016/networking.2016-10-17-21.00.txt | 22:00 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2016/networking.2016-10-17-21.00.log.html | 22:00 |
dasm | cu, have a nice time at Summit | 22:00 |
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alraddarla | bye | 22:00 |
dasanind_ | thanks | 22:00 |
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