| thinrichs | Hi all! | 00:01 |
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| thinrichs | Time for Congress | 00:01 |
| thinrichs | courtesy ping: ekcs, masahito, ramineni, aimeeu | 00:02 |
| ekcs | hi | 00:02 |
| thinrichs | #startmeeting CongressTeamMeeting | 00:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 29 00:02:23 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is thinrichs. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 00:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 00:02 |
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| masahito | hi | 00:02 |
| thinrichs | Agenda for this week.. | 00:03 |
| thinrichs | 1. Newton release | 00:03 |
| thinrichs | 2. Barcelona | 00:03 |
| thinrichs | Anything else? | 00:03 |
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| thinrichs | #topic Newton | 00:05 |
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| thinrichs | ekcs: you've been quite busy getting Newton ready. Want to give a report? | 00:05 |
| ekcs | sure. | 00:05 |
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| ekcs | we’ve had quite a few late breaking bugs exposed by replicated PE testing | 00:06 |
| ekcs | thinrichs and I have gotten fixes merged or in review. | 00:06 |
| ekcs | all other newton target bugs fixes are in place as far as I can tell. | 00:07 |
| thinrichs | ekcs: For sure it was great that you put that replicated PE test framework together! | 00:07 |
| thinrichs | ekcs: never would have found those bugs otherwise | 00:07 |
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| ekcs | one exception is that ceilometer driver breaks on updating alarms. | 00:08 |
| ekcs | but I haven’t heard back from anyone on ceilometer and I tihnk we just have to release that with documented known issue. | 00:08 |
| thinrichs | ekcs: how comprehensive are those replicated PE tests at this point? Are they covering the full API: policies/rules, datasources, drivers | 00:08 |
| thinrichs | ekcs: agreed on ceilometer | 00:09 |
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| ekcs | here’s the ceilometer issue. #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-ceilometerclient/+bug/1626404 | 00:09 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1626404 in python-ceilometerclient "client.alarms.list() errors" [Undecided,New] | 00:09 |
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| thinrichs | I wonder if the ceilometer folks monitor the client bugs. You sent an email too, right? | 00:10 |
| ekcs | yea thanks thinrichs. Lesson learned for me is just because I’m confident with unit testing that the newly added code is good, and that the old code has been working well, doesn’t mean I should be confident that the combined result is good. new paths exercised. | 00:10 |
| ekcs | yea I sent email too. | 00:11 |
| thinrichs | ekcs: I'd say that's all we can really do given the late-bugs we found. | 00:11 |
| thinrichs | for ceilometer | 00:11 |
| thinrichs | ekcs: what's the coverage like for those replicated tests? Not lines of code but rather the parts of the API. | 00:12 |
| ekcs | tox replicated PE tests don’t test datasources yet. others seem covered. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/358927/ But datasources are exercised in tempest test. need to look again at how well covered. | 00:12 |
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| thinrichs | That's true—the datasources aren't as risky since they're not replicated. | 00:12 |
| thinrichs | Same for the drivers | 00:13 |
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| thinrichs | masahito: anything you're working on for Newton? | 00:13 |
| thinrichs | aimeeu: anything for Newton? | 00:13 |
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| masahito | I'm checking something related to dse2 control_bus. | 00:14 |
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| masahito | I noticed current heatbeat packet is little wrong. | 00:15 |
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| masahito | but the wrong part is not affected current behaviors. | 00:16 |
| masahito | https://bugs.launchpad.net/congress/+bug/1628440 | 00:16 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1628440 in congress "HeartBeat packet has some invalid information." [Medium,New] - Assigned to Masahito Muroi (muroi-masahito) | 00:16 |
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| ekcs | masahito: oh yea. I’ve been aware of that issue. probably should’ve documented it. | 00:17 |
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| thinrichs | masahito: great. If there's no user-visible problems we can demonstrate, I'd say we put that into Ocata | 00:17 |
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| ekcs | masahito: when I added new information to heartbeat, I didn’t realize that pballand already had some skeleton code in place for them. So I didn’t use the existing structures. | 00:18 |
| ekcs | like masahito said. doesn’t affect behavior. | 00:18 |
| masahito | yeah. It've be targeted to Ocata. | 00:18 |
| masahito | ekcs: and I think we can refactor it. | 00:19 |
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| thinrichs | Okay, so I'm thinking that the code we have in review right now is all we need to worry about. | 00:20 |
| thinrichs | So let's all go thru and review what we can and get those merged ASAP. | 00:20 |
| ekcs | thinrichs: agreed. | 00:20 |
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| masahito | agreed. | 00:20 |
| thinrichs | Then we can all do 1 more round of sanity checking that nothing is clearly broken. | 00:20 |
| thinrichs | And we'll cut the final release after that. | 00:20 |
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| thinrichs | Hopefully Tue/Wed next week | 00:21 |
| ekcs | thinrichs: do we need to release another RC this week? | 00:22 |
| thinrichs | Any questions/comments about Newton? | 00:22 |
| thinrichs | ekcs: I'll look, but I don't think it's a requirement. | 00:22 |
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| ekcs | also, I’m thinking about calling replicated PE a beta feature for newton. not sure that implications that has. not sure if it’s worth discussing. but just thorwing it out. | 00:23 |
| thinrichs | Maybe we should cut rc2 once we get all this code merged | 00:23 |
| thinrichs | Meaning put it into the docs as 'Beta'? | 00:23 |
| ekcs | yea and release notes. | 00:23 |
| ekcs | the idea being we have it working, but not well tested compared to the other features. | 00:24 |
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| thinrichs | Certainly I think a warning that it's the first release makes sense. I don't have a strong opinion about whether we label it 'beta' | 00:25 |
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| ekcs | ok. | 00:25 |
| masahito | Agreed | 00:25 |
| thinrichs | ekcs: if you're willing to write the release note and update the docs, I'd say you can decide whether to call it beta or not | 00:26 |
| ekcs | ok. | 00:26 |
| thinrichs | Anything else? | 00:27 |
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| ekcs | none from me. | 00:27 |
| thinrichs | On Newton? | 00:27 |
| thinrichs | #topic Barcelona | 00:28 |
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| thinrichs | I created an etherpad for the topics for our 3 working rooms and 1 fishbowl room | 00:28 |
| thinrichs | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/congress-ocata-design-summit | 00:28 |
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| thinrichs | The topics are what we came up with at the last IRC | 00:29 |
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| thinrichs | masahito: one of the topics is having you give us an overview of how Congress is being used in the Doctor project | 00:29 |
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| thinrichs | masahito: you were sort of volunteered to do that. Would that actually be okay with you? | 00:29 |
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| masahito | sure. | 00:30 |
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| masahito | I read last meeting logs. | 00:30 |
| thinrichs | masahito: Great! | 00:30 |
| masahito | And I'm asking now *real* policy Doctor project want to use in production. | 00:31 |
| masahito | I could share what they want us at the room. | 00:31 |
| thinrichs | That would be great! | 00:31 |
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| thinrichs | I'm already excited: prod policies! | 00:33 |
| thinrichs | Ramineni_: you here? | 00:33 |
| Ramineni_ | Yes | 00:33 |
| Ramineni_ | Sorry ..I'm late | 00:33 |
| thinrichs | No worries | 00:33 |
| thinrichs | I was worried you had been here all along but with a capital R and so I had left you out of stuff. | 00:34 |
| thinrichs | Ramineni_: do you have any code you're working on for Newton? | 00:34 |
| Ramineni_ | No | 00:34 |
| thinrichs | Ramineni_: any progress on picking out dinner options for Barcelona? | 00:34 |
| Ramineni_ | Yes ..I'll send out mail today on the options .. can book that based on everyone opinion | 00:35 |
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| thinrichs | Ramineni_: Great! We'll all get back to you as soon as we can. Thanks for doing that! | 00:37 |
| thinrichs | One other thing for Barcelona… | 00:37 |
| thinrichs | Has anyone heard from external teams with feature-requests or use-cases for us? | 00:38 |
| thinrichs | Or ideas about teams that we want to interact with during our fishbowl session? | 00:38 |
| thinrichs | I've reached out to a couple of people but it'd be great if we had a few more ideas | 00:38 |
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| ekcs | i haven’t made progress on that. | 00:39 |
| thinrichs | Here's one: | 00:39 |
| thinrichs | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/congress/+spec/congress-fwaas | 00:39 |
| masahito | I didn't hear any idea. | 00:39 |
| thinrichs | If anyone comes to mind, let ekcs or myself know, or reach out to them yourselves | 00:40 |
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| thinrichs | Last thing on the agenda for today is status updates / open discussion | 00:41 |
| thinrichs | #topic status and open discussion | 00:41 |
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| thinrichs | Anyone have status reports to give that they haven't already? Or anything else to discuss? | 00:41 |
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| thinrichs | If not, we can finish now and use this time to review code. :) | 00:43 |
| ekcs | =) | 00:43 |
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| thinrichs | Okay, let's end early then. Everyone go review some code so we can get Newton finished! | 00:44 |
| thinrichs | See you all next week | 00:44 |
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| ekcs | laters! | 00:44 |
| thinrichs | #endmeeting | 00:44 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 29 00:44:56 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 00:44 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2016/congressteammeeting.2016-09-29-00.02.html | 00:44 |
| masahito | see you. | 00:44 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2016/congressteammeeting.2016-09-29-00.02.txt | 00:45 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2016/congressteammeeting.2016-09-29-00.02.log.html | 00:45 |
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| mfedosin | Courtesy meeting reminder ( #openstack-meeting ): ativelkov, mfedosin, docaedo, dshakhray, kairat, sskripnick, nikhil, Gb21 | 16:00 |
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| mfedosin | #startmeeting glare | 16:10 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 29 16:10:27 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mfedosin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:10 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:10 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glare' | 16:10 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | o/ | 16:10 |
| mfedosin | sskripnick: kzaitsev_mb dshakhray hey! | 16:11 |
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| dshakhray | o/ | 16:11 |
| mfedosin | #topic agenda | 16:11 |
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| mfedosin | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glare-meeting-agenda | 16:11 |
| mfedosin | #topic Updates | 16:11 |
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| mfedosin | so, we have a lot of stuff done: | 16:11 |
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| mfedosin | first of all, we're able to deploy glare on devstack with the plugin | 16:12 |
| mfedosin | then we did a great work on the client | 16:13 |
| mfedosin | thanks dshakhray :) | 16:13 |
| dshakhray | :-) | 16:13 |
| mfedosin | and now glare has functional client and cli | 16:13 |
| mfedosin | then it was first release of glare service | 16:14 |
| mfedosin | #link https://pypi.python.org/pypi/glare | 16:14 |
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| mfedosin | and finally sskripnick did a working app catalog based on glare v1 | 16:15 |
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| mfedosin | #topic next steps | 16:16 |
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| mfedosin | our current plans are related to implementation of hard dependencies for artifacts | 16:17 |
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| mfedosin | then we think of acls for glare artifacts | 16:17 |
| mfedosin | and next big thing - searchlight plugin | 16:18 |
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| mfedosin | Gb21 started working on it | 16:18 |
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| mfedosin | also we're thinking about microversions for artifact types | 16:19 |
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| mfedosin | i.e. make all artifact type compatible | 16:19 |
| mfedosin | also, if everything is fine, we will release glareclient and apply under big tent next week | 16:20 |
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| mfedosin | It seems that it will take some time to consider the application | 16:21 |
| mfedosin | but I hope we'll become a part of Big Tent before the summit | 16:21 |
| mfedosin | These are our plans :) | 16:22 |
| mfedosin | okay, if there are no more questions we can finish the meeting for today | 16:22 |
| mfedosin | #endmeeting | 16:24 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 29 16:24:57 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:24 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glare/2016/glare.2016-09-29-16.10.html | 16:25 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glare/2016/glare.2016-09-29-16.10.txt | 16:25 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glare/2016/glare.2016-09-29-16.10.log.html | 16:25 |
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| oomichi | #startmeeting qa | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 29 17:00:55 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is oomichi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'qa' | 17:00 |
| oomichi | hi, who are joining today? | 17:01 |
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| dustins | \o | 17:01 |
| scottda | Hi | 17:01 |
| mtreinish | o/ | 17:01 |
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| oomichi | ok, lets start | 17:02 |
| oomichi | #topic Next Summit | 17:02 |
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| oomichi | we have 7 slots for qa project design sessions. | 17:02 |
| oomichi | and we are gathering some ideas for these slots on #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-qa-summit-topics | 17:02 |
| oomichi | oops, I needed to pick up today agenda before that: #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/QATeamMeeting#Agenda_for_September_29th_2016_.281700_UTC.29 | 17:03 |
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| oomichi | (going back to the summit) | 17:03 |
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| oomichi | now there is not good enough ideas and it is great to put the ideas on that more :) | 17:04 |
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| oomichi | rough ideas also are enough at this time | 17:04 |
| oomichi | somebody has some ideas at this time? | 17:05 |
| oomichi | ok, lets move to the next topic. | 17:06 |
| oomichi | #topic Specs Reviews | 17:06 |
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| oomichi | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/qa-specs,n,z | 17:06 |
| oomichi | there are not any changes since the previous meeting | 17:07 |
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| oomichi | on the spec. so I feel it is fine to skip this today if no topic on us | 17:07 |
| oomichi | #topic Tempest | 17:08 |
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| oomichi | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/tempest+status:open | 17:08 |
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| oomichi | Now I am trying to define some guideline about negative tests on #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/379013/ | 17:09 |
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| oomichi | some good feedback is gotten already, so I will update it after this meeting | 17:09 |
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| oomichi | are there other items about Tempest today? | 17:10 |
| DavidPurcell | I have something, if that's okay | 17:10 |
| oomichi | DavidPurcell: Please go ahead :) | 17:11 |
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| DavidPurcell | Thanks | 17:11 |
| DavidPurcell | The company I work for has written a framework and suite of tests for testing RBAC policy enforcement within Tempest. | 17:11 |
| DavidPurcell | If there is interest, we were hoping to begin work on pushing it out to the community. | 17:11 |
| mtreinish | DavidPurcell: that sounds similar to: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/314704/ | 17:12 |
| mtreinish | DavidPurcell: do you have a link to the tool? | 17:12 |
| oomichi | DavidPurcell: that is interesting. Now which projects(nova, cinder, etct) are supported? | 17:12 |
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| DavidPurcell | Currently I think we have tests for: Nova, Glance, Cinder, Murano, Neutron, Heat | 17:13 |
| DavidPurcell | I have seen the Cinnamon-Role project (the one in the review), but it seemed to be abandoned in May. | 17:13 |
| oomichi | DavidPurcell: cool, yeah I also want to see the implementation way with some link if possible | 17:13 |
| mtreinish | DavidPurcell: yeah I don't think rlossit has had time to touch it a while | 17:14 |
| DavidPurcell | I didn't prepare something for this meeting, but I can have something to show soon | 17:14 |
| oomichi | DavidPurcell: thanks :) | 17:15 |
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| DavidPurcell | mtreinish: Right, that is one of the reasons I was asking, I wanted to know if that project had been dropped, and if an alternative solution was open to consideration. | 17:15 |
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| oomichi | DavidPurcell: one question about this kind of tests: We can change policy on productions as they want, so how to verify these policies work fine on the tests? | 17:16 |
| oomichi | The policy configuration files should be input on the tests? | 17:16 |
| mtreinish | DavidPurcell: I think there would be, there has been desire for an rbac tool like this in qa. It's mostly been a matter of someone writing one | 17:17 |
| mtreinish | the blocker on cinnamon-role was it's use of unstable tempest interfaces. We were planning to add it to qa when that was fixed (by stabilizing the interfaces into tempest/lib) | 17:17 |
| DavidPurcell | Our current solution involves reading the apis from a yaml file we created based on the policies, and then using that to determine if the api being tested should be accessible by that role | 17:17 |
| mtreinish | DavidPurcell: but if your implementation works, I definitely think it's worthwhile to look at it as an alternative | 17:18 |
| mtreinish | it's hard to say anything concrete without having a repo to look at though | 17:19 |
| oomichi | humm, interesting. yeah I am looking forward to seeing it | 17:19 |
| DavidPurcell | Agreed, I wish I could just share it now, but internal restrictions :( | 17:19 |
| DavidPurcell | Would the openstack-qa chat be the best place to discuss it once I have approval to share code? | 17:20 |
| oomichi | DavidPurcell: no problem, that is common thing in companies | 17:20 |
| oomichi | DavidPurcell: yeah, that is a right channel | 17:20 |
| DavidPurcell | okay, thanks a lot! | 17:20 |
| oomichi | DavidPurcell: thanks for picking this up. are there another topic about Tempest today? | 17:21 |
| oomichi | all: are there another topic about Tempest today? | 17:21 |
| mtreinish | I wanted to talk about this patch: | 17:21 |
| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/373428/ | 17:21 |
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| oomichi | mtreinish: ok, please go ahead :) | 17:22 |
| mtreinish | it's still a wip, but I wanted to know if people had feelings on using ostestr as the underpinnings of tempest run instead of testr directly? | 17:22 |
| mtreinish | because that's what the patch is proposing | 17:22 |
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| mtreinish | slowrie, dpaterson: ^^^ | 17:23 |
| oomichi | mtreinish: maybe do you have some concern about this? | 17:23 |
| mtreinish | oomichi: well we made a decision to use testr directly when we did the initial implementation (I don't remember the reason why though) | 17:23 |
| oomichi | mtreinish: the patch itself seems reducing the code from Tempest by using it | 17:23 |
| mtreinish | it does but it leverages ostestr to do a lot of work under the covers | 17:24 |
| mtreinish | and ostestr itself runs testr by subprocessing out | 17:24 |
| mtreinish | which I think is my bigger concern, is that we're adding another fairly complex layer in the middle | 17:24 |
| lhx_ | oomichi, mtreinish, could you spare some minutes for review? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/378483/ | 17:24 |
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| mtreinish | so the call path becomes tempest run -> ostestr -> testr -> CONC x subunit.run -> testtools.run -> unittest.run | 17:25 |
| oomichi | mtreinish: oops, that seems very complex.. | 17:26 |
| mtreinish | oomichi: well even if you remove ostestr it's still complex :) | 17:26 |
| mtreinish | I'm not opposed to doing this, but I wanted other people's thoughts on it | 17:26 |
| oomichi | mtreinish: yeah, TBH I was surprised calls of testr at this time :) | 17:27 |
| oomichi | mtreinish: ok, could you put some comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/373428 ? | 17:27 |
| oomichi | mtreinish: the above explanation is good for reviewing | 17:27 |
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| oomichi | lhx_: sorry for late response, please go ahead | 17:28 |
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| oomichi | lhx_: ah, that is simple patch. I will review it after this meeting. | 17:28 |
| lhx_ | oomichi, sorry for interrupt you. thx for review | 17:29 |
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| oomichi | lhx_: no problem, and thanks for doing that | 17:29 |
| lhx_ | oomichi, haha, it's my job. | 17:30 |
| oomichi | ok, are there any topic about tempest today? | 17:30 |
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| oomichi | lhx_: :) | 17:30 |
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| oomichi | ah, I need to bring one thing before moving | 17:30 |
| oomichi | #link https://github.com/oomichi/bug-counter#current-graph | 17:31 |
| oomichi | the bug number of Tempest is still decreasing by triage. Thanks for helping many people | 17:31 |
| mtreinish | oomichi: hmm, we need to make the lines bigger in the legend. It's hard to see the colors | 17:31 |
| mtreinish | oomichi: how many NEW bugs does tempest have? It's good to have that in single digits | 17:33 |
| oomichi | mtreinish: hehe, yeah, it is great to do that. but that is not my work :) | 17:33 |
| mtreinish | it looks like 30-40 by the graph | 17:33 |
| oomichi | mtreinish: yeah, maybe around 30 on NEW | 17:33 |
| oomichi | mtreinish: and the number seems increasing in this week | 17:34 |
| oomichi | so we need to do some triage about that | 17:34 |
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| oomichi | mtreinish: do you have some idea for puting a digits on the graph? | 17:34 |
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| oomichi | and alternative way is #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/372581/ | 17:35 |
| mtreinish | oomichi: that get's tricky to add, and makes it difficult to read. (that's why interactive graphs are nice) I can add more Y axis tick points to try and make it clearer | 17:35 |
| oomichi | the patch adds long-term bug progress on bugstate | 17:36 |
| oomichi | mtreinish: can we add Y axis on right side? | 17:36 |
| mtreinish | oomichi: lets pick this up after the meeting | 17:37 |
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| oomichi | mtreinish: yeah, I agree | 17:37 |
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| oomichi | ok, let's move on | 17:37 |
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| oomichi | #topic DevStack + Grenade | 17:38 |
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| oomichi | Do we have some items necessary to discuss them today? | 17:38 |
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| mtreinish | the big thing for devstack and grenade this week is that we've branched them for newton | 17:39 |
| oomichi | cool, we are moving to Ocata now | 17:39 |
| mtreinish | looking at the newton branch though we still have some post branch stuff to do | 17:39 |
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| mtreinish | mostly just updating lib/tempest with the max microversions and the hard coded extension list | 17:40 |
| mtreinish | we also need to do the extension list for liberty, and mitaka (that came up on the ML) | 17:40 |
| mtreinish | oomichi: do you think you could push patches up for all that? | 17:40 |
| oomichi | mtreinish: ah, I missed the mail of this topic maybe, is that for Nova extension or the other projects? | 17:41 |
| mtreinish | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-September/104754.html | 17:41 |
| mtreinish | it was about adding a neutron test for an extension added in mitaka | 17:42 |
| mtreinish | we never hard coded the extension list on liberty or mitaka, so tests for new features fail on stable | 17:42 |
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| oomichi | mtreinish: humm, is it ok to just put some extensions list on stable devstacks? | 17:44 |
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| oomichi | I will follow that after meeting anyways. | 17:45 |
| oomichi | #action oomichi follows http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-September/104754.html | 17:45 |
| mtreinish | it's a documented part of each release... | 17:45 |
| mtreinish | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/QA/releases#Devstack | 17:45 |
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| mtreinish | it's part of branchless tempest's implementation | 17:45 |
| mtreinish | but sure, we can follow up after the meeting | 17:46 |
| oomichi | mtreinish: thanks. yeah it is nice to do that after meeting | 17:46 |
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| oomichi | do we have more topics about devstack + grenade today? | 17:46 |
| oomichi | ok, lets move on | 17:47 |
| oomichi | #topic openstack-health | 17:47 |
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| oomichi | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/openstack-health+status:open | 17:47 |
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| oomichi | do we have discussion items about o-h ? | 17:48 |
| mtreinish | nothing from me this week | 17:48 |
| oomichi | there are some patches on the list, and it is nice to just review | 17:48 |
| oomichi | mtreinish: thanks, ok lets move on | 17:49 |
| oomichi | #topic Critical Reviews | 17:49 |
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| oomichi | I'd like to pick #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/379013/ up as a critical review. I hope a concenses is great from many reviewers | 17:50 |
| oomichi | do we have more patches as critical or important? | 17:50 |
| mtreinish | nothing from me this week | 17:51 |
| oomichi | ok, let's move on | 17:52 |
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| oomichi | #topic Open Discussion | 17:52 |
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| oomichi | somebody have some discussion items today? | 17:53 |
| oomichi | ok, lets end this meeting | 17:54 |
| oomichi | thanks all | 17:54 |
| oomichi | #endmeeting | 17:54 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 29 17:54:36 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:54 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2016/qa.2016-09-29-17.00.html | 17:54 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2016/qa.2016-09-29-17.00.txt | 17:54 |
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| rtheis | hi | 18:00 |
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| rtheis | time for networking-ovn meeting | 18:00 |
| rtheis | #startmeeting networking_ovn | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 29 18:00:37 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rtheis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_ovn' | 18:00 |
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| russellb | hi | 18:00 |
| rtheis | #topic: Announcements | 18:00 |
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| rtheis | hi russellb | 18:01 |
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| rtheis | Open vSwitch 2.6.0 released | 18:01 |
| rtheis | #link http://openvswitch.org/pipermail/discuss/2016-September/022786.html | 18:01 |
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| rtheis | networking-ovn Newton RC2 released | 18:01 |
| rtheis | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-September/104673.html and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/374820/ | 18:01 |
| russellb | \o/ | 18:01 |
| rtheis | I think we are in good shape for newton | 18:02 |
| russellb | yep, thanks for staying on top of things rtheis | 18:02 |
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| rtheis | yw | 18:02 |
| rtheis | I don't have any other announcements | 18:02 |
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| rtheis | #topic: Bugs | 18:03 |
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| rtheis | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-ovn/+bug/1627810 | 18:03 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1627810 in networking-ovn "gate-grenade-dsvm-networking-ovn-nv [Fail] Couldn't ping server " [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Richard Theis (rtheis) | 18:03 |
| rtheis | grenade is broken | 18:03 |
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| rtheis | Babu and I have been looking at it but nothing solid to go on for a fix yet | 18:03 |
| russellb | i suggested to him that if after some time (a day or whatever) it still wasn't too clear how to fix it, we might just want to forget about it and wait until we can drop the l3 agent in that job | 18:04 |
| russellb | and then worry about getting it working again | 18:04 |
| rtheis | sounds good | 18:04 |
| rtheis | I'll take another look if I have time ... one more idea to try out | 18:05 |
| rtheis | then maybe defer it | 18:05 |
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| rtheis | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-ovn/+bug/1621627 | 18:06 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1621627 in networking-ovn "Create multi-node CI job for networking-ovn" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Richard Theis (rtheis) | 18:06 |
| russellb | ok | 18:06 |
| rtheis | there is also the multi-node CI job | 18:06 |
| russellb | how's that going? | 18:06 |
| russellb | very exciting | 18:06 |
| rtheis | it works | 18:06 |
| rtheis | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/376968/ | 18:06 |
| rtheis | but we aren't doing the heavy lifting yet with floating IPs until l3 support merges | 18:07 |
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| rtheis | but we can handle that as a change later | 18:07 |
| rtheis | once https://review.openstack.org/#/c/376968/ goes in, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/378032/ will move the job to non-voting | 18:08 |
| rtheis | And final bug that I have ... | 18:09 |
| rtheis | no launchpad bug yet ... | 18:09 |
| rtheis | the functional test is broken with ovs 2.6.0 | 18:09 |
| rtheis | and thus our gate isn't happy | 18:09 |
| rtheis | I've triaged it down to ovs transaction mutate support | 18:09 |
| rtheis | I think this may be a bug in ovs | 18:10 |
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| rtheis | running 2 commands that both mutate a column works, but ... | 18:11 |
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| rtheis | using the idl to get the column data in first command return full set | 18:11 |
| azbiswas | rtheis: Do you have no details on this? | 18:11 |
| azbiswas | more details | 18:11 |
| rtheis | using the idl to get the column data in second commend returns an empty list | 18:11 |
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| rtheis | end result is that if n-ovn does any comparisons with the column data, it may be inaccurate since the mutate blasted it for subequent commands under the same transaction | 18:12 |
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| rtheis | unfortunately, there are a couple hits in n-ovn | 18:13 |
| azbiswas | We can try running it with the master branch of OVS and see if that fails as well | 18:13 |
| rtheis | I have an idea how to fix on n-ovn side and will open a bug | 18:13 |
| russellb | hm, i wonder if we want to make the CI jobs for stable/newton use branch-2.6 of ovs vs master ... | 18:14 |
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| rtheis | azbiswas: has there been a lot of changes between master and ovs 2.6.0 just released on pypi | 18:14 |
| azbiswas | That sounds like a bug in idl. | 18:14 |
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| azbiswas | Not in the idl part | 18:14 |
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| rtheis | russellb: that's a good idea | 18:15 |
| rtheis | that's all I have on this bug for now | 18:16 |
| rtheis | I'll finish my investigation and open a bug report with the details | 18:16 |
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| rtheis | any other bugs? | 18:17 |
| rtheis | #topic Reviews | 18:17 |
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| rtheis | how about reviews? | 18:18 |
| russellb | yes! | 18:18 |
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| rtheis | we still have similar list of new features and unit test coverage improvements in the queue | 18:18 |
| rtheis | I'll try doing more reviews once the gate is fixed | 18:19 |
| rtheis | was hoping to have more time now that newton rc2 is out | 18:19 |
| russellb | is there a gate fix in the queue? | 18:19 |
| rtheis | no | 18:19 |
| russellb | i'm also interested in the status of the SNAT / Floating IP patch | 18:19 |
| russellb | looks like it got rebased yesterday | 18:19 |
| rtheis | chandrav ^^^^ | 18:20 |
| russellb | i was proposing that we should try to merge it soon since tests are passing | 18:20 |
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| russellb | and address any cleanup or bugs we come across as follow-ups | 18:20 |
| rtheis | sounds good to me | 18:20 |
| russellb | chandrav: thanks for sticking through with this one! | 18:21 |
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| azbiswas | The only part remaining from implementation is the sync part | 18:21 |
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| chandrav | russellb: Also, there is 1 tempest test failing "tempest.scenario.test_network_v6" | 18:21 |
| russellb | you have it disabled though right? | 18:22 |
| chandrav | I'll raise 2 bugs for sync code and the tempest failure | 18:22 |
| russellb | filing a bug / following up on that is OK with me | 18:22 |
| chandrav | yes, i disabled it | 18:22 |
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| rtheis | chandrav: once the bugs are opened, please reference them in the code todos | 18:23 |
| rtheis | thanks | 18:23 |
| chandrav | will do | 18:23 |
| rtheis | anything else on reviews ? | 18:23 |
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| rtheis | #topic Conferences | 18:24 |
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| rtheis | We have a room scheduled for OpenStack summit | 18:24 |
| rtheis | Workroom setup scheduled on Wednesday from 3:05 to 3:45 | 18:24 |
| rtheis | #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TQ-RSlbiBBEclkonIbfUP7R1ExZSJylF1uiEKV2G_Cw/pubhtml?gid=1107826458&single=true | 18:24 |
| rtheis | add topics to etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/networking-ovn-ocata-summit | 18:25 |
| rtheis | Also there is a roundtable setup open all day Friday if needed | 18:25 |
| rtheis | anything else on conferences? | 18:26 |
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| rtheis | #topic Open Discussion | 18:26 |
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| rtheis | I don't have any specific topics | 18:27 |
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| rtheis | If nothing, we can end early | 18:27 |
| rtheis | okay, back to the gate fix and reviews ... | 18:28 |
| rtheis | thanks everyone | 18:29 |
| rtheis | #endmeeting | 18:29 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 29 18:29:02 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:29 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ovn/2016/networking_ovn.2016-09-29-18.00.html | 18:29 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ovn/2016/networking_ovn.2016-09-29-18.00.txt | 18:29 |
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| russellb | thanks rtheis | 18:31 |
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| stevemar | o/ | 19:00 |
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| dtroyer_zz | #startmeeting openstackclient | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 29 19:01:56 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dtroyer_zz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
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| aohuanxuan | o/ | 19:01 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstackclient' | 19:02 |
| stevemar | oh hai | 19:02 |
| aohuanxuan | hi | 19:02 |
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| stevemar | aohuanxuan: good evening/morning! :) | 19:02 |
| aohuanxuan | good morning :) | 19:02 |
| dasanind_ | hi | 19:03 |
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| dtroyer_zz | ok, let's get going... | 19:03 |
| dtroyer_zz | #topic release status | 19:04 |
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| dtroyer_zz | still holding 3.3.0, I guess it's going to go all the way until next week | 19:04 |
| dtroyer_zz | we should consider if there is anything merged in the last week that might not want to be put into a release immediately | 19:04 |
| dtroyer_zz | I don't think there is anything…. anyone? | 19:05 |
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| stevemar | hey hey | 19:05 |
| stevemar | the release ban should be lifted next week :) | 19:05 |
| aohuanxuan | ok | 19:06 |
| dtroyer_zz | I think my hesitation is due to know knowing off the top of my head about all of the command formats that have been merged | 19:06 |
| stevemar | dtroyer_zz: nothing super critical to be honest | 19:06 |
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| stevemar | (that comment is about anything else that needs to be included) | 19:06 |
| dtroyer_zz | ok, cool. I'll re-visit updating the release commit early next week | 19:07 |
| dtroyer_zz | well, Monday actually. I am travelling Tues-Thurs so time is sporatic | 19:07 |
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| dtroyer_zz | #topic reviews | 19:08 |
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| dtroyer_zz | Anyone have any specific review to discuss? | 19:08 |
| stevemar | there are a bunch of volume related ones | 19:08 |
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| aohuanxuan | yes... | 19:09 |
| aohuanxuan | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/363574/ seems like the cinder team don't like it | 19:10 |
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| stevemar | aohuanxuan: yeah, theres that one :( | 19:10 |
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| dtroyer_zz | they tend to not like any changes to the db model they created, even if it is an artificial distinction | 19:11 |
| stevemar | i like the current proposal, aohuanxuan had a good idea for re-using the key-value arg we created | 19:11 |
| stevemar | instead of doing --remote-identifier and --remote-type or whatever nonsense was there first | 19:12 |
| stevemar | its just 2 extra options when there are always a bunch, i don't think it'll confuse admins vs non-admins | 19:12 |
| dtroyer_zz | that is a decent compromise. frankly, the admin/not-admin distinction is low on my concern list mostly because it hasn't been a problem for us so far | 19:13 |
| stevemar | also, with keystone, there is no admin vs non-admin, it's just a role ... if they *really* want admins to only use it, then make it part of cinder-manage | 19:13 |
| dtroyer_zz | exactly | 19:13 |
| aohuanxuan | yes, I think it is ok add it as a admin-only option | 19:13 |
| stevemar | We can add (Admin required) to the help if that eases their concern | 19:14 |
| dtroyer_zz | we still want to keep using specific options when needed, I'd rather not get into passing through arbitrary blobs too much | 19:14 |
| dtroyer_zz | we should have that in the help | 19:14 |
| aohuanxuan | ok | 19:14 |
| dtroyer_zz | others? | 19:15 |
| aohuanxuan | so what about the idea of using the "key=value" format there? | 19:15 |
| stevemar | aohuanxuan: i like it | 19:16 |
| dtroyer_zz | that is the part that I think is a good compromise | 19:16 |
| stevemar | dtroyer_zz: theres the rename backup | 19:16 |
| dtroyer_zz | it should not be our first choice for things like this though | 19:16 |
| stevemar | dtroyer_zz: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/353931/ | 19:16 |
| aohuanxuan | ok | 19:17 |
| aohuanxuan | yeah, backup restore | 19:17 |
| stevemar | dtroyer_zz: we spoke about it on sept 15, you made call, but i posted some comments :) | 19:17 |
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| dtroyer_zz | stevemar: right. (reads last comment) I'd like to understand why v1 and v2 have to behave differently | 19:18 |
| aohuanxuan | yes it is different | 19:18 |
| aohuanxuan | it is my question | 19:19 |
| aohuanxuan | looks like they are inverse | 19:19 |
| dtroyer_zz | can we make them act the same? how much work to make v1 work like v2? | 19:20 |
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| aohuanxuan | we can also add --force option for v1 | 19:20 |
| aohuanxuan | not much | 19:20 |
| aohuanxuan | but if we do that | 19:20 |
| aohuanxuan | then the --force should specified everytime when we specify --volume | 19:21 |
| aohuanxuan | because we have a way to create a new volume for the restoring with v1 API | 19:22 |
| dtroyer_zz | we could do a set of options for 'reuse-existing' and 'only-create-new' or something like that | 19:22 |
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| aohuanxuan | yeah, I think reuse-existing in similar to force, right? | 19:23 |
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| dtroyer_zz | yes it is | 19:24 |
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| aohuanxuan | I mean in the v1 API, we can only use existing volume for restoring if we specify --volume | 19:25 |
| dtroyer_zz | in your comment, though, that is the same for v1 and v2 | 19:26 |
| dtroyer_zz | it is the two cases with —volume specified that are different, that I would like to be not different | 19:26 |
| aohuanxuan | but the v1 API dosen't support create a new volume for restoring | 19:27 |
| dtroyer_zz | then we create it manually then use it for the restore call | 19:28 |
| dtroyer_zz | we are not limited to only the APIs that directly support the command :) | 19:28 |
| aohuanxuan | oh! good idea!! | 19:28 |
| aohuanxuan | I get it | 19:29 |
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| dtroyer_zz | \o/ OSc is in the business of hiding bits like that from the user | 19:29 |
| aohuanxuan | Yes | 19:29 |
| aohuanxuan | it looks cool | 19:30 |
| aohuanxuan | then we can make v1 and v2 the same | 19:30 |
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| stevemar | next up for reviews is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/365910/ | 19:30 |
| stevemar | which is another problematic command :) | 19:31 |
| dtroyer_zz | I never wanted to implement anything containing the word 'member', especially since that concept is going away | 19:31 |
| dtroyer_zz | had this all worked out with markwash a long time ago, and never got it done | 19:32 |
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| dtroyer_zz | should that be image add project? | 19:33 |
| stevemar | thats what it is today | 19:33 |
| dtroyer_zz | so why change? | 19:33 |
| dtroyer_zz | I saw no motivation for that | 19:34 |
| stevemar | ugh: Image members are not necessarily projects. Glance has an option, owner_is_tenant, that controls whether images in a particular installation are owned by the project or the user. (It's not a per-image setting, it's for the entire site.) In such a cloud, you can't share an image with a project, you can only share with another user. | 19:35 |
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| stevemar | that stinks | 19:36 |
| dtroyer_zz | does the user know the difference? cna we discover which to use in those cases? | 19:36 |
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| stevemar | no idea | 19:36 |
| dtroyer_zz | because I would much rather have 'image add project' and 'image add user' as two commands than 'image add <somthing-new-not-used-anywhere-else>' | 19:37 |
| dtroyer_zz | call it what it is | 19:37 |
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| dtroyer_zz | ok, any other reviews? | 19:40 |
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| aohuanxuan | no, I haven't | 19:41 |
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| dtroyer_zz | #topic bugs | 19:43 |
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| dtroyer_zz | any specific bugs to talk about? | 19:44 |
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| stevemar | there have been a few RFE lately | 19:45 |
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| stevemar | on the topic bugs, i also cleaned up some BPs that were implemented or duplicates | 19:45 |
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| dtroyer_zz | I saw that, thanks! | 19:45 |
| stevemar | this was a weird RFE: https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstackclient/+bug/1628412 | 19:45 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1628412 in python-openstackclient "Logging within the interactive shell of the openstack command" [Undecided,New] | 19:45 |
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| dtroyer_zz | heh, sounds like a controlled environment | 19:46 |
| * dtroyer_zz has worked in those | 19:46 | |
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| stevemar | not sure if we can do anything specific in osc for that, might be a cliff enhancement | 19:47 |
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| dtroyer_zz | it would be in cmd2 most likely | 19:48 |
| dhellmann | it used to do that by default, actually | 19:48 |
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| dhellmann | cliff, that is | 19:48 |
| dhellmann | way way back at the beginning | 19:48 |
| stevemar | oye... cmd2, that's another thing on the list | 19:48 |
| dhellmann | it just used the logging module to do it, and it logged everything regardless of whether you were using interactive mode or not | 19:48 |
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| dhellmann | at least I think that was cliff, maybe I'm thinking of another project | 19:49 |
| dtroyer_zz | I don't recall that, but I've forgotten a lot over the years | 19:49 |
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| dhellmann | yeah, maybe that was something else, but we could use the same approach -- if the needed env var is set, configure logging to write to a file | 19:49 |
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| dtroyer_zz | it does sound reasonable and should be doable | 19:50 |
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| dhellmann | as well as stderr | 19:50 |
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| stevemar | dhellmann: should i retarget the bug to cliff? | 19:50 |
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| dtroyer_zz | add cliff for now maybe? | 19:50 |
| dhellmann | stevemar : I'm not sure. maybe? we'd probably want to use an openstack-specific variable name like OPENSTACKCLIENT_LOG_FILE or something | 19:51 |
| dhellmann | yeah | 19:51 |
| stevemar | k | 19:51 |
| dtroyer_zz | OSc still might be involved in the plumbing | 19:51 |
| stevemar | yeah | 19:51 |
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| stevemar | dtroyer_zz: i want to close this as WONTFIX: https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstackclient/+bug/1623860 | 19:52 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1623860 in python-openstackclient "'Openstack complete' command output is not clear" [Undecided,New] | 19:52 |
| stevemar | i think the originator didn't know what the complete command was intended for | 19:52 |
| dhellmann | yeah | 19:53 |
| stevemar | i doubt we want to remove it from the help | 19:53 |
| dtroyer_zz | I think it is totally usable for end-users, if you know what it does | 19:53 |
| dtroyer_zz | maybe just a clearer explanation | 19:53 |
| dhellmann | that couldn't hurt | 19:54 |
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| stevemar | okay, maybe some additional text here: https://github.com/openstack/cliff/blob/21f133f17ba2ec7a4b370a74bd08b536abddf1de/cliff/complete.py#L154 | 19:54 |
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| stevemar | don't really know what to add ... maybe just add more logging before and after? | 19:55 |
| stevemar | this is also a very frustrating bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstackclient/+bug/1621126 | 19:56 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1621126 in python-openstackclient "cinder hardcodes the service type to "volumev2"" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 19:56 |
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| dhellmann | where do we document how you use complete to set up bash completion? | 19:56 |
| dtroyer_zz | that plus an actual explanation in our doc, err, adding a doc for that | 19:56 |
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| stevemar | dhellmann: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/cliff/complete.html | 19:56 |
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| dhellmann | stevemar : I mean where is the user documentation for how to insert that stuff into their shell? | 19:57 |
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| stevemar | dhellmann: DNE :P | 19:57 |
| stevemar | i guess we could add that to OSC docs | 19:57 |
| dhellmann | so that could either go in the command help, or a reference to it could go there | 19:57 |
| dhellmann | yeah | 19:57 |
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| stevemar | just gotta add "openstack complete | sudo tee /etc/bash_completion.d/osc.bash_completion > /dev/null" to the osc docs somewhere | 19:58 |
| stevemar | i'll tackle that one | 19:58 |
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| dtroyer_zz | maybe an actual doc for the 'complete' command? | 19:59 |
| stevemar | dtroyer_zz: oh true | 19:59 |
| stevemar | currently there isn't one | 20:00 |
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| stevemar | endmeeting time :( | 20:00 |
| dtroyer_zz | nope. we should have one for help too, especially once that gets more complicated and so on | 20:00 |
| dtroyer_zz | #endmeeting | 20:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 29 20:00:40 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstackclient/2016/openstackclient.2016-09-29-19.01.html | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstackclient/2016/openstackclient.2016-09-29-19.01.txt | 20:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstackclient/2016/openstackclient.2016-09-29-19.01.log.html | 20:00 |
| dtroyer_zz | thanks everyone! | 20:00 |
| aohuanxuan | thanks ^^ | 20:00 |
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| stevemar | thanks | 20:01 |
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| greghaynes | ianw: cinerama O/ | 20:02 |
| cinerama | hi! | 20:02 |
| greghaynes | or anyone else here for dib | 20:02 |
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| greghaynes | #startmeeting | 20:02 |
| openstack | greghaynes: Error: A meeting name is required, e.g., '#startmeeting Marketing Committee' | 20:02 |
| greghaynes | #startmeeting diskimage-builder | 20:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 29 20:02:51 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is greghaynes. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'diskimage_builder' | 20:02 |
| greghaynes | tada | 20:02 |
| cinerama | thanks for starting the meeting | 20:03 |
| greghaynes | I dont really have much of anything, havent been able to work on dib much the past couple weeks | 20:03 |
| greghaynes | mostly trying to figure out the state of the v2 branch | 20:03 |
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| greghaynes | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/diskimage-builder+branch:feature/v2 | 20:03 |
| greghaynes | looks like ianw has a couple large ones which are merge conflicted and andreas has a couple of the block device patches | 20:04 |
| cinerama | yeah i noticed the merge conflicts as well | 20:05 |
| pabelanger | o/ | 20:05 |
| cinerama | looks like many other things are all set to go | 20:05 |
| greghaynes | so yea, I think the big action item for next two weeks is get those merged | 20:05 |
| greghaynes | #action try to prioritize reviewing patches to the v2 branch | 20:06 |
| greghaynes | The other big thing I noticed when reviewing the block device patches is it would be really nice to add some functional testing for them | 20:06 |
| cinerama | i can rebase some stuff if folks are busy | 20:06 |
| greghaynes | so I think I am going to take that as part of my action item | 20:06 |
| cinerama | i think that's a great idea | 20:06 |
| greghaynes | cinerama: that'd be awesome | 20:06 |
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| greghaynes | #action greghaynes to add some functional testing for the new block device interface | 20:07 |
| greghaynes | #action cinerama to rebase the merge conflicted v2 patches which need it | 20:07 |
| greghaynes | coolio | 20:07 |
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| greghaynes | The only other thing I can think of is the bug tracker - I failed at finding some time to close more bugs, I know cinerama did a ton | 20:08 |
| cinerama | rebase party! | 20:08 |
| greghaynes | so hopefully folks can cull some more of the oudated launchpad bugs | 20:08 |
| cinerama | yeah i did some around our last meeting, but i haven't revisited since then | 20:08 |
| greghaynes | awesome | 20:08 |
| greghaynes | in theory ill have time the next two weeks so I'll try and prioritize that | 20:09 |
| greghaynes | #action Try to continue culling old/stale launchpad bugs until we get them all cleaned up | 20:09 |
| greghaynes | so, any other topics / things from previous meetings you think we should hit on? | 20:10 |
| greghaynes | We missed a couple meetings so I suspect we dont have much of a following here ATM :/ | 20:10 |
| cinerama | looks like the v2 stuff is progressing, though i know ianw is on top of that more | 20:11 |
| cinerama | we're biweekly right? | 20:11 |
| greghaynes | Yes to both | 20:11 |
| cinerama | i ran the previous meeting | 20:11 |
| cinerama | what else | 20:11 |
| cinerama | review activity has been a bit slow | 20:11 |
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| greghaynes | yea :( I had been pulled in to some internal stuff so my time was basically 0 for the past couple weeks, in theory thats over now though | 20:12 |
| greghaynes | I think the big thing is just to make sure we keep momentum on v2 at this point - otherwise well end up with a pile of unmerged code that is forever diverging from master | 20:12 |
| cinerama | right | 20:13 |
| greghaynes | and the sooner we can merge it in the better | 20:13 |
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| cinerama | agreed | 20:13 |
| greghaynes | ok, well, last call if anyone wants to beg for review / help with something :) | 20:14 |
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| pabelanger | yes | 20:14 |
| greghaynes | otherwise 15min meeting (which is awesome) | 20:14 |
| greghaynes | pabelanger: ohai | 20:14 |
| pabelanger | So, could use some eyes on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/378985/ and hopefully a 1.20.1 release. Found some issues with the new runtime-ssh-host-key elements | 20:14 |
| greghaynes | aha | 20:14 |
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| pabelanger | basically, stop using ssh-keygen -A and adds a script to do each key | 20:14 |
| greghaynes | pabelanger: ok, I'll have a look. Is that release needed ASAP to fix things or? | 20:16 |
| pabelanger | 2nd, is more a design question for DIBs. I want to see how I can add the ability to have disk-image-create launch ansible-playbook before the chroot is converted to an image (ansible would use the connection=chroot). The reason for this, is we'd like to break stop using puppet inside of DIB and move to ansible external of DIB, so we don't need to create virtualenvs in the image | 20:16 |
| pabelanger | greghaynes: doesn't have to be ASAP, but soonish would be nice | 20:16 |
| greghaynes | pabelanger: hrm. I dont know a lot about connectoin=chroot - does that just need a path and sufficient binaries in the path and itll handle all the chrooting aspects? | 20:18 |
| greghaynes | trying to figure out what kind of environment dib would need to set up for ansible to make use of | 20:18 |
| pabelanger | greghaynes: Right, I haven't tested yet but it would be: https://coderwall.com/p/_lpf1g/run-a-playbook-chrooted-in-a-local-dir | 20:19 |
| pabelanger | setup the path to chroot in your inventory file, and ansible_connection=chroot | 20:19 |
| cinerama | yeah i haven't looked at the chroot stuff in ansible yet myself | 20:19 |
| greghaynes | gotcha | 20:19 |
| pabelanger | so, in this case, ansible is running outside of DIB, which is something we'd like for openstack-infra | 20:19 |
| pabelanger | to help remove our configuration bits from test images | 20:20 |
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| greghaynes | So one idea is we should make an api infront of where we call our phases (right now we just have a bash function called run_d) that allows people to plug out the dib 'runner' | 20:20 |
| pabelanger | I haven't started down the path of hacking yet, but wanted to bring up the topic since we talked about it recently at our infra mid-cycle | 20:20 |
| greghaynes | I'm basically thinking theres a larger thing here of 'users want to be able to have a custom runner' | 20:21 |
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| greghaynes | yea, its a neat idea - I think itd also help out a lot with the puppet use case as well if we made the interface more clear | 20:22 |
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| * greghaynes will think on it | 20:22 | |
| pabelanger | cool | 20:22 |
| cinerama | nice | 20:22 |
| greghaynes | ok, well I think thats it | 20:23 |
| greghaynes | #endmeeting | 20:23 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 29 20:23:27 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:23 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/diskimage_builder/2016/diskimage_builder.2016-09-29-20.02.html | 20:23 |
| greghaynes | thanks! | 20:23 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/diskimage_builder/2016/diskimage_builder.2016-09-29-20.02.txt | 20:23 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/diskimage_builder/2016/diskimage_builder.2016-09-29-20.02.log.html | 20:23 |
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| mriedem | #startmeeting nova | 21:00 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 21:00 |
| tonyb | \o | 21:00 |
| takashin | o/ | 21:00 |
| diana_ | o/ | 21:00 |
| dansmith | o/ | 21:00 |
| alaski | o/ | 21:00 |
| edleafe | \o | 21:00 |
| raj_singh | o/ | 21:00 |
| mikal | Hi | 21:00 |
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| mriedem | #link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 21:00 |
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| mriedem | #topic Release News | 21:01 |
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| lbeliveau | o/ | 21:01 |
| mriedem | #link Newton release schedule: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Newton_Release_Schedule | 21:01 |
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| mriedem | #info newton rc2 tag patch: https://review.openstack.org/379806 | 21:01 |
| * Vek waves | 21:01 | |
| mriedem | so rc2 should be out just in time | 21:01 |
| mriedem | #link Draft Ocata release schedule: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Ocata_Release_Schedule | 21:01 |
| * edleafe waves back to Vek | 21:02 | |
| mriedem | #info Specs are open for Ocata so get things re-proposed if they didn't land in Newton. | 21:02 |
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| mriedem | questions about the release? | 21:02 |
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| mriedem | #topic bugs | 21:02 |
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| mriedem | #link check queue gate status http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/index.html | 21:02 |
| mriedem | there are 2 bugs that have been bugging us in the gate, one merged earlier today | 21:03 |
| mriedem | the other is a ceph one | 21:03 |
| mriedem | http://status.openstack.org//elastic-recheck/index.html#1627220 | 21:03 |
| mriedem | although now it looks like that's dropping off for some reason | 21:03 |
| mriedem | anyway | 21:04 |
| mriedem | #link 3rd party CI status http://ci-watch.tintri.com/project?project=nova&time=7+days | 21:04 |
| mriedem | intel nfv ci had some issues earlier in the week with a pypi mirror, but i think that's been sorted out | 21:04 |
| mriedem | or at least not -1ing things | 21:04 |
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| mriedem | vmware has continued to have issues | 21:05 |
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| mriedem | and i posted a request in the mailing list to get the recheck instructions in the vmware nsx ci comment back on the patch when it fails | 21:05 |
| mriedem | i think that is the 3rd or 4th time i've asked for that | 21:05 |
| bauzas | nova nova nova hop ? | 21:05 |
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| bauzas | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9wWBjnaEck | 21:05 |
| * bauzas feels alone in the dark :) | 21:05 | |
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| tonyb | mriedem: Are we getting close to asking infra to suspend the account? | 21:05 |
| mriedem | umm, ok? | 21:05 |
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| mriedem | tonyb: not yet | 21:06 |
| mriedem | tonyb: it's not voting | 21:06 |
| tonyb | mriedem: is more patient than I am ;P | 21:06 |
| mriedem | tonyb: it's just annoying that it's not working when i want to +2 a vmware patch | 21:06 |
| tonyb | mriedem: Yeah, I have a few in that boat aswell | 21:06 |
| mriedem | we don't have any critical bugs | 21:07 |
| mriedem | i just did a pass through triage, there are some NFV looking bugs in there | 21:07 |
| mriedem | which are over my head to triage | 21:07 |
| mriedem | so looking for help from lbeliveau, sfinucan and moshele | 21:07 |
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| mriedem | questions about bugs? | 21:07 |
| bauzas | mmm, I'm 7 min ahead... weirdo | 21:07 |
| mriedem | #topic Summit planning | 21:08 |
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| mriedem | #link Etherpad for Ocata summit topics: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-nova-summit-ideas | 21:08 |
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| mriedem | i've started to try and filter through that list | 21:08 |
| mriedem | and spec out a rough schedule | 21:08 |
| mriedem | we have more slots than we need really i think | 21:08 |
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| mriedem | will try to finalize the proposed schedule before next week's meeting for feedback | 21:08 |
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| mriedem | #info Cross project summit session ideas are due by 10/1: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-September/103657.html | 21:09 |
| bauzas | anyway, \o | 21:09 |
| mriedem | ^ There are proposals for (1) nova/cinder API workflow redo, (2) discoverable API capabilities, (3) cross-service communications re: tokens, (4) scaling review teams (among others). | 21:09 |
| mriedem | so one of the reason nova will probably have more slots than we need is because we might have some things covered in the wednesday xp sessions | 21:09 |
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| mriedem | with overlap / follow up in the nova track | 21:09 |
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| mriedem | same with neutron, i think they are going to have us over for a chat on wednesday | 21:09 |
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| mriedem | ^ is my impersonation of someone british | 21:10 |
| tonyb | mriedem: :) | 21:10 |
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| Vek | heh. | 21:10 |
| mikal | Chats don't normally involve physical harm | 21:10 |
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| mriedem | questions on summit planning? | 21:10 |
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| cdent | mikal: when was the last time your were in the uk? | 21:11 |
| cdent | it's all about physical harm these days | 21:11 |
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| tonyb | mriedem: chats about football most certainly do | 21:11 |
| bauzas2 | \o (waves super late because of lagging) | 21:12 |
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| mriedem | mikal: we're actually quite chummy with neutron these days | 21:12 |
| mriedem | it's those cinder bastards i can't stand! :P | 21:12 |
| mriedem | #topic Reminders | 21:12 |
| mriedem | #help https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/BugTriage#Weekly_bug_skimming_duty Volunteers for 1 week of bug skimming duty? | 21:12 |
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| mriedem | looks like ^ isn't really getting anyone signed up | 21:12 |
| mriedem | bauzas: bauzas2: yes we know you're here | 21:12 |
| mriedem | put the drink down | 21:13 |
| mriedem | #topic Stable branch status: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/stable-tracker | 21:13 |
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| mriedem | #info We need to do a review push on stable/liberty and stable/mitaka and do a release of those. There is a security bug fix in stable/liberty and several unreleased commits in mitaka. | 21:13 |
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| * jroll steals bauzas2's drink | 21:13 | |
| mriedem | i've already got a patch up for a liberty 12.0.5 release | 21:13 |
| mriedem | that's probably going to be the last one for liberty before EOL | 21:13 |
| bauzas2 | mriedem: heh, I wish I would, but that's probably my IRC bouncer which drunk | 21:14 |
| mriedem | we need to make a review pass through stable/mitaka https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/mitaka,n,z | 21:14 |
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| mriedem | and then a release next week | 21:14 |
| dansmith | mriedem: I shall do some of that when we're done here | 21:14 |
| mriedem | tonyb scolded me for having too many unreleased commits | 21:14 |
| mriedem | dansmith: thanks | 21:14 |
| tonyb | lol | 21:14 |
| tonyb | "scolded" | 21:14 |
| mriedem | he was really terrible | 21:15 |
| mriedem | i didn't get a single piece of cake | 21:15 |
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| mriedem | #topic subteam highlights | 21:15 |
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| mriedem | alaski: cells! | 21:15 |
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| alaski | there was a bug found around reschedules which was fixed yesterday | 21:15 |
| alaski | and fixed in stable/newton today | 21:15 |
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| alaski | the meeting this week was mostly about getting organized for specs and summit | 21:16 |
| alaski | I'm going to put together an etherpad with what's left to get to multiple cells | 21:16 |
| alaski | I think that's it | 21:16 |
| mriedem | ok | 21:16 |
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| mriedem | edleafe: jaypipes: scheduler meeting? | 21:16 |
| mriedem | cdent: ^ | 21:16 |
| edleafe | Just discussed some of the work for Ocata that was just starting up | 21:16 |
| edleafe | Also, how we might divide it up better | 21:17 |
| edleafe | We also threw around ideas for topics to discuss at the summit | 21:17 |
| edleafe | I added them to the etherpad | 21:17 |
| edleafe | that's it | 21:17 |
| mriedem | ok | 21:17 |
| mriedem | we have 2 slots penciled in for scheduler/placement | 21:17 |
| mriedem | and 2 slots for cellsv2 things | 21:18 |
| mriedem | tbd | 21:18 |
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| mriedem | anyone around from the live migration meeting? | 21:18 |
| mriedem | tdurakov: ^? | 21:18 |
| mriedem | i know we talked about testing out pkoniszewski's patch to run a live-migration + grenade multinode job | 21:18 |
| mriedem | i've got a todo to write a d-g wip patch for that | 21:18 |
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| mriedem | and there was talk about some specs, like live migrate rescued instances, and that lead to a ML thread from mdbooth about canonical libvirt domain xml | 21:19 |
| raj_singh | mriedem: I have one for grenade LM job https://review.openstack.org/#/c/378015/ | 21:19 |
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| mriedem | #link patch to test live migration + grenade https://review.openstack.org/#/c/378015/ | 21:20 |
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| mriedem | thanks | 21:20 |
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| mriedem | ok, API meeting | 21:20 |
| mriedem | alex_xu: ? | 21:20 |
| mriedem | i was at that one, we talked about some specs | 21:20 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy is working on redoing security groups in the server create API | 21:21 |
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| mriedem | sdague has a spec up to start talking about discoverable capabilities from the API | 21:21 |
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| mriedem | we talked a bit about the standardized diagnostics API spec and how to represent BDMs | 21:21 |
| mriedem | that was mostly it | 21:21 |
| mriedem | oh and alex_xu has a spec up for no longer proxying image metadata, i'm +2 on that if someone wants to hit it after the meeting | 21:21 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/377528/ | 21:22 |
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| mriedem | lbeliveau: the sriov/pci meeting was cancelled this week right? | 21:22 |
| mriedem | gibi_: was there a notifications meeting this week? | 21:22 |
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| mriedem | ok moving on | 21:23 |
| mriedem | #topic Stuck Reviews | 21:23 |
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| mriedem | there was nothing on the agenda | 21:23 |
| lbeliveau | yeap, got canceled | 21:23 |
| mriedem | ok | 21:23 |
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| mriedem | #topic Open discussion | 21:23 |
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| mriedem | there are 2 agenda iteams | 21:23 |
| mriedem | *items | 21:23 |
| mriedem | (dave-johnston): Blueprint for new filter. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/multi-tenant-exclusion-filter . Can this be implemented without a spec? | 21:23 |
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| bauzas2 | there was an old proposal about the above | 21:24 |
| bauzas2 | from belmoreira IIRC | 21:24 |
| edleafe | yeah, sounds familiar | 21:24 |
| mriedem | jaypipes: want to take a look at ^ too ? | 21:25 |
| bauzas2 | so, process-wise, I dunno, I know we agreed with having specless BPs for that but sometimes it's nice to discuss about the filter behaviour | 21:25 |
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| mriedem | yeah this doesn't sound obviously trivial from just reading it | 21:26 |
| mriedem | i think a spec would be good | 21:26 |
| bauzas2 | also, a new filter would require a relnote I guess | 21:26 |
| mriedem | well, you can release note w/o a spec | 21:26 |
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| bauzas2 | sure, but I think we need to clear the behaviour | 21:26 |
| bauzas2 | ie. why we should rather do this or that | 21:27 |
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| bauzas2 | so, I'm +1 on having a spec for that one | 21:27 |
| bauzas2 | because it's not trivial and has a long history | 21:27 |
| mriedem | edleafe: feel the same? | 21:27 |
| edleafe | yeah, I think that's best | 21:28 |
| mriedem | ok, i'll reply in the bp to write a spec and probably try to attend the scheduler meeting to talk about it | 21:28 |
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| bauzas2 | ack, wfm | 21:28 |
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| mriedem | last item | 21:28 |
| mriedem | Do we need a spec for the optional placement DB blueprint? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/optional-placement-database | 21:28 |
| dansmith | so, given how confused it was in the begining, | 21:28 |
| dansmith | I think we probably do | 21:29 |
| bauzas2 | +1 | 21:29 |
| mriedem | ok, that's why i had this on here | 21:29 |
| alaski | +1 | 21:29 |
| mriedem | because we talked about this at the meetup but then it went all crazy i guess while i was on vacation | 21:29 |
| bauzas2 | that's having a very important operator's impact | 21:29 |
| mriedem | and i didn't know the details | 21:29 |
| jaypipes | mriedem: I can try | 21:29 |
| mriedem | jaypipes: let cdent write it | 21:29 |
| mriedem | or roman? | 21:29 |
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| mriedem | ok, well someone will do it, but i'd suggest those working on the code | 21:30 |
| cdent | I'm happy to write it, if someone tells me why we need it? | 21:30 |
| mriedem | anyone else have open discussion items? | 21:30 |
| edleafe | cdent doesn't have much to do | 21:30 |
| cdent | oh cheers edleafe :) | 21:30 |
| bauzas | ooooh I'm not lagging anymore here \o/ | 21:31 |
| mriedem | because long term we want to move placement things into the placement db i thought | 21:31 |
| cdent | no, why we need a spec | 21:31 |
| mriedem | because of the confusion with adding that in newton | 21:31 |
| mriedem | i wasn't around that week though, so need someone else to fill in | 21:31 |
| cdent | the confusion was over the implementation, not the need | 21:31 |
| dansmith | and because it's a giant backend thing | 21:31 |
| cdent | but yeah, sure, I can make a spec | 21:31 |
| bauzas | what dansmith said | 21:32 |
| * edleafe snickers "giant backend thing" | 21:32 | |
| cdent | placement's got back | 21:32 |
| dansmith | heh | 21:32 |
| mriedem | ok anything else? | 21:32 |
| dansmith | edleafe: the relation of placement to "ass" is not lost on me | 21:32 |
| dansmith | mriedem: please no | 21:32 |
| edleafe | dansmith: obviously | 21:33 |
| mriedem | btw, newton is basically released now https://review.openstack.org/#/c/379806/ | 21:33 |
| mriedem | so \o/ | 21:33 |
| edleafe | \o/ | 21:33 |
| mriedem | ok, that's it, thanks all | 21:33 |
| mriedem | #endmeeting | 21:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 21:33 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 29 21:33:29 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:33 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2016/nova.2016-09-29-21.00.html | 21:33 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2016/nova.2016-09-29-21.00.txt | 21:33 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2016/nova.2016-09-29-21.00.log.html | 21:33 |
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| bauzas | sweet | 21:33 |
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