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| thinrichs | Sorry I'm late | 00:04 |
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| thinrichs | courtesy ping: ekcs, aimeeu, ramineni_, masahito | 00:05 |
| ramineni_ | hi | 00:05 |
| ekcs | hi all | 00:05 |
| thinrichs | #startmeeting CongressTeamMeeting | 00:05 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 1 00:05:20 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is thinrichs. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 00:05 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 00:05 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'congressteammeeting' | 00:05 |
| aimeeu | hello everyone | 00:05 |
| masahito | hi | 00:05 |
| thinrichs | Agenda today… | 00:05 |
| thinrichs | 1. bug in client? | 00:05 |
| thinrichs | 2. newton3 | 00:05 |
| thinrichs | 3. status | 00:05 |
| thinrichs | Anything else? | 00:06 |
| thinrichs | #topic bug in client | 00:07 |
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| * thinrichs trying to find link | 00:07 | |
| aimeeu | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/congress/+bug/1619065 | 00:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1619065 in congress "Failure to push data through CLI" [High,New] | 00:07 |
| aimeeu | thinrichs: still had it open from earlier | 00:08 |
| thinrichs | There it is. thanks aimeeu | 00:08 |
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| thinrichs | I ran across this when getting ready to release the new client. | 00:08 |
| thinrichs | The new feature addition is that we can push data through our CLI to push drivers. | 00:08 |
| thinrichs | But I couldn't seem to get it ot work. | 00:08 |
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| thinrichs | masahito: am I creating the datasource correctly and pushing data correctly? | 00:08 |
| thinrichs | (This is pressing since we're supposed to finalize the client by tomorrow and do a release.) | 00:09 |
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| masahito | I think the data schema of the request is not correct for doctor driver. | 00:10 |
| masahito | #link https://github.com/openstack/congress/blob/master/congress/datasources/doctor_driver.py#L47 | 00:11 |
| masahito | this is the request body doctor's event table expects. | 00:11 |
| thinrichs | Ok. Thanks. I'll fix up the schema, and assuming that works, release the client tomorrow. | 00:12 |
| thinrichs | Glad it's likely to be user error. :) | 00:12 |
| thinrichs | #topic newton3 | 00:12 |
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| thinrichs | I haven't released newton3 yet. I'll do that tomorrow. | 00:12 |
| thinrichs | Ideally we'd have all the new 'features' merged before newton3 | 00:13 |
| thinrichs | and only do bug fixing after newton3 | 00:13 |
| ekcs | great! | 00:14 |
| ekcs | this can be considered either feature or fix: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/356806/ | 00:14 |
| ekcs | This would be great to get in: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/354629/ | 00:15 |
| thinrichs | Agreed that both those would be good to get into Newton. | 00:15 |
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| thinrichs | There seem to be a number of outstanding reviews that are mostly ready… | 00:16 |
| thinrichs | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/congress+status:open | 00:16 |
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| thinrichs | So let's try to get the ones that are ready merged soon so that we can turn our attention to testing, bug fixing, and docs | 00:18 |
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| thinrichs | Let's say end of the week to get non-bugfixes in. | 00:18 |
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| thinrichs | That means we all are actively reviewing each others' code | 00:20 |
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| thinrichs | and thinking critically about whether a comment/improvement should stop the inclusion of the patch in Newton | 00:20 |
| thinrichs | Any questions about newton3? | 00:20 |
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| ekcs | got it. | 00:21 |
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| thinrichs | #topic status | 00:21 |
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| thinrichs | ramineni_: want to start? | 00:21 |
| ramineni_ | sure | 00:21 |
| ramineni_ | I have adressed the comments on all of my open patches, but stuck in scary merge conflict :( will fix them up today | 00:22 |
| ramineni_ | Added a patch, to start mltiple PE and run existing tempest tests , but it seems to fail | 00:23 |
| thinrichs | I'm intrigued: why is the merge conflict scary? | 00:23 |
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| ramineni_ | have to check if its sync timing issue or any other issue | 00:23 |
| ramineni_ | thinrichs: need to again change multiple files to resolve them | 00:24 |
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| thinrichs | ramineni_: let's get that merged soon then. Those merge conflicts eat a bunch of time if your patch is touching many files. Much easier for other N patches to solve 1 merge conflict than for you to deal with N. | 00:25 |
| ramineni_ | thats it from my side | 00:25 |
| ramineni_ | ya, will do it today | 00:25 |
| thinrichs | ramineni_: the tests for multiple PEs is super-crucial for this release | 00:25 |
| ramineni_ | yes, ill have a look today | 00:26 |
| thinrichs | we need to get the HAHT working in at least a couple interesting scenarios | 00:26 |
| thinrichs | We can all help you get that patch merged. Which one is it? | 00:26 |
| ramineni_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/362761/ | 00:27 |
| ramineni_ | by default i made it to true, to check if it works before adding a job in infra | 00:27 |
| ramineni_ | yesterday, couldnt find tim to debug it | 00:28 |
| thinrichs | Sorry—I meant the patch that's got all the merge conflicts. | 00:29 |
| ramineni_ | oh.. | 00:29 |
| ekcs | I’ll take a look at the tempest fails. It’s expected that some will fail from timing issues and stuff. | 00:29 |
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| ekcs | passing 20 out of 23 is actually very encouraging =) | 00:30 |
| ramineni_ | ekcs: right :) | 00:30 |
| ekcs | great work. | 00:30 |
| thinrichs | ramineni_: after a quick look, there might be some weird functionality that murano is expecting—like being able to insert a policy | 00:30 |
| ramineni_ | thinrichs: thats fine.. ill get it done today, they are series of dependent patches on each other , so its better ill do it | 00:30 |
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| thinrichs | ramineni_: okay; leave a comment if you want someone to get it merged sooner rather than later b/c it's causing so many conflicts | 00:31 |
| ramineni_ | sure, thanks | 00:31 |
| thinrichs | ramineni_: ping me (irc and/or email) if you want my help with the murano failure | 00:32 |
| thinrichs | masahito: want to give a status update? | 00:32 |
| masahito | sure | 00:32 |
| ramineni_ | ok, sure | 00:33 |
| masahito | 1. the patch of push driver support in client is merged | 00:33 |
| masahito | 2. I'm working lazy datasource support in all OpenStack driver. | 00:33 |
| masahito | tha't from my side | 00:33 |
| masahito | s/tha't/that's/ | 00:34 |
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| thinrichs | Sounds good. | 00:35 |
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| thinrichs | aimeeu: what's new with you? | 00:36 |
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| aimeeu | Well not much. ;) Thanks everyone for the feed back on the HA Guide - it's been merged | 00:36 |
| aimeeu | I've been reviewing code and trying to get PyCharm & DevStack configured for remote debugging so I can tackle the Congress dashboard bug | 00:37 |
| aimeeu | that's it for me | 00:38 |
| thinrichs | Thanks. Glad you got the HA guide merged. | 00:38 |
| aimeeu | OH I did noticed that the keystone datasource driver is throwing an error | 00:39 |
| thinrichs | I'm interested if you find a good way to debug devstack. I'm usually just using a text editor and the command line. | 00:39 |
| thinrichs | ekcs: want to go next? | 00:39 |
| aimeeu | If I don't figure it out tomorrow morning, I'll reach out to a resource at work (the guy who is doing the hands on in Barcelona) | 00:39 |
| ekcs | I think this is ready to merge: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/356806/ | 00:40 |
| ekcs | Not sufficient for detecting dropped update from an infrequently pushed DSD, but that can be addressed in future change. | 00:40 |
| ekcs | On the integrated HA testing in test_congress, I've been slowed by many little issues expected when using an unorthodox approach, but I think mostly resolved. | 00:40 |
| ekcs | Latest issue I am dealing with is that somehow I can't get congress to take the bind_port option from config file instead of the default port. Still investigating whether it's user error or bug. | 00:40 |
| ekcs | That’s all. | 00:40 |
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| ekcs | I’m guessing testing/user error because ha_test does it fine on tempest. | 00:41 |
| thinrichs | That patch of yours sounds like its ready to go into newton3 | 00:42 |
| thinrichs | One minute and I'll be back | 00:42 |
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| thinrichs | Back | 00:43 |
| ekcs | yup I think so. | 00:43 |
| thinrichs | Seems like we're all on a good trajectory to finish up major items for newton3 | 00:44 |
| thinrichs | So that's great! | 00:44 |
| thinrichs | That's all I have for today, so we'll open it up for discussion. | 00:44 |
| thinrichs | #topic open discussion | 00:44 |
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| ekcs | not a high priority, | 00:45 |
| ekcs | but anyone know why the testr_results.html.gz stopped showing up in tempest tests? | 00:45 |
| ekcs | It was there in this patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/358388/ | 00:46 |
| ekcs | and then in the very next merged patch, it’s gone. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/356157/ | 00:46 |
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| thinrichs | Which gate job? I saw testr_results for py35 (I think) | 00:48 |
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| ekcs | in the tempest tests. like dsvm and murano. | 00:49 |
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| thinrichs | No idea. | 00:50 |
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| thinrichs | Maybe ping #infra | 00:50 |
| thinrichs | We should check it's still not showing up. | 00:51 |
| thinrichs | Maybe there's some setting that changed in how infra runs jobs | 00:51 |
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| ekcs | got it. | 00:51 |
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| ekcs | If there is nothing else: | 00:52 |
| ekcs | does this config file look right? | 00:52 |
| ekcs | [default] | 00:52 |
| ekcs | bind_port = 4000 | 00:52 |
| ekcs | auth_strategy = noauth | 00:52 |
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| thinrichs | Looking at my default /etc/congress/congress.conf | 00:54 |
| thinrichs | I see the auth_strategy = <blah> line | 00:55 |
| thinrichs | I don't see the bind_port line | 00:55 |
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| ekcs | yea… I’m trying to override the default port for a second PE node. | 00:56 |
| ekcs | but somehow congress still using old port. Don’t worry about it I’m pretty sure I’m doing something silly that’s causing it. | 00:56 |
| thinrichs | Okay. | 00:57 |
| thinrichs | Let us know if we can help. | 00:57 |
| thinrichs | Seems that's the end of our time this week. | 00:58 |
| thinrichs | Thanks all! | 00:58 |
| thinrichs | #endmeeting | 00:58 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 1 00:58:45 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 00:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2016/congressteammeeting.2016-09-01-00.05.html | 00:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2016/congressteammeeting.2016-09-01-00.05.txt | 00:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2016/congressteammeeting.2016-09-01-00.05.log.html | 00:58 |
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| oomichi | #startmeeting qa | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 1 17:00:06 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is oomichi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'qa' | 17:00 |
| oomichi | Hello - who's here for today? | 17:00 |
| dpaterson | o/ | 17:00 |
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| oomichi | today's agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/QATeamMeeting#Agenda_for_September_1st_2016_.281700_UTC.29 | 17:00 |
| oomichi | hi | 17:00 |
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| scottda | Hi | 17:01 |
| oomichi | hi | 17:01 |
| hogepodge | o/ | 17:02 |
| oomichi | ok, let's start meeting | 17:02 |
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| oomichi | #topic QA/Infra Code Sprint | 17:02 |
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| mtreinish | o/ | 17:02 |
| oomichi | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sprints/QAInfraNewtonSprint | 17:03 |
| oomichi | We have a meetup in Germany the next next week | 17:03 |
| oomichi | The above link is the info | 17:03 |
| oomichi | The remaining sheets are just 5, so please regisger if interested in joining | 17:04 |
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| oomichi | QA topics of the meetup are collected on #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/qa-infra-newton-midcycle | 17:04 |
| oomichi | If having some ideas or woking items, please write them down on :) | 17:05 |
| oomichi | That is from me about this topic :) | 17:05 |
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| oomichi | do we have some questions about the meetup now(like trip or nice dinner) | 17:06 |
| oomichi | ? | 17:06 |
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| oomichi | ok, let's move on | 17:06 |
| mtreinish | nothing from me | 17:06 |
| oomichi | #topic OpenStack Summit | 17:07 |
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| oomichi | mtreinish: ok, thanks. I got it | 17:07 |
| oomichi | The next OpenStack summit doesn't have many slots design sessions by comparing the previous one | 17:07 |
| oomichi | on the previous summit, we have 8 slots for QA sessions | 17:08 |
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| oomichi | but the next summit will be 7 due to shrinking the desin session time | 17:08 |
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| hogepodge | more projects with less space and less time | 17:08 |
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| oomichi | hogepodge: yeah, that is right | 17:09 |
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| oomichi | 7 slots also is not concrete yet | 17:09 |
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| dpaterson | Is there anything we can do to help make the 7 a sure thing? | 17:10 |
| oomichi | so we need to collect sessions idea after the meetup and need to consider the less slot | 17:10 |
| mtreinish | oomichi: if there is less available slots thats fine, we can make it work | 17:10 |
| mtreinish | oomichi: but the other thing to remember is ocata is a very short cycle | 17:10 |
| oomichi | dpaterson: we just need to wait for the other projects request for slots | 17:10 |
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| mtreinish | so less slots might not be a bad thing | 17:10 |
| mtreinish | we don't want to overcommit to work if there isn't much time | 17:11 |
| oomichi | mtreinish: yeah, a nice point. we need to select workable items for short time | 17:11 |
| oomichi | mtreinish: yeah I agree | 17:11 |
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| oomichi | ok, thanks for feedback, are there more topics for the summit? | 17:12 |
| oomichi | I guess we need to concentrate on the meetup before the summit ;) | 17:12 |
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| oomichi | ok, let's move on | 17:13 |
| oomichi | #topic Specs Reviews | 17:13 |
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| oomichi | Current spec review is #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/qa-specs,n,z | 17:13 |
| oomichi | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/354877/ is really nit patch | 17:13 |
| oomichi | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/349730/ is I'd like to get more feedback | 17:14 |
| mtreinish | oomichi: do we need to update implemented specs like that | 17:14 |
| mtreinish | it feels like a waste of time | 17:14 |
| mtreinish | and also changing history | 17:14 |
| mtreinish | when we implemented that spec it was tempest_lib | 17:14 |
| oomichi | mtreinish: which spec do you mean? | 17:15 |
| mtreinish | 354877 | 17:15 |
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| oomichi | mtreinish: ah, a nice point | 17:16 |
| oomichi | mtreinish: ok, I drop it | 17:16 |
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| oomichi | ok, I dropped | 17:17 |
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| oomichi | do we have more topics about the spec? | 17:17 |
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| oomichi | ok, let's move on | 17:18 |
| oomichi | #topic Tempest | 17:18 |
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| oomichi | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/tempest+status:open | 17:18 |
| oomichi | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/317088/ is up on the agenda | 17:19 |
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| oomichi | maybe castulo did it up, but he is not here | 17:19 |
| oomichi | someone wants to pick it up here? | 17:20 |
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| oomichi | the other topic is I feel it is nice to release a new Tempest after milestone-3(the end of this week) to avoid impact to the gate | 17:21 |
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| oomichi | or someone wants to release it soon? | 17:22 |
| mtreinish | oomichi: no one consumes tempest from release in the gate really | 17:22 |
| mtreinish | it shouldn't have any impact there | 17:22 |
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| mtreinish | but waiting is fine | 17:22 |
| oomichi | mtreinish: ah, I guess puppet jobs are using that | 17:22 |
| mtreinish | on stable branches maybe | 17:23 |
| mtreinish | but it should be capped if so | 17:23 |
| mtreinish | the reason you would do that is to avoid potential issues with master | 17:23 |
| oomichi | mtreinish: yeah, that would be a pain to developers | 17:24 |
| oomichi | just before milestone-3 | 17:24 |
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| oomichi | ok, it is fine to wait for just 3 days :) | 17:25 |
| oomichi | the next one is bug triage | 17:25 |
| oomichi | now the launchpad of tempest has 200+ bug reports | 17:26 |
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| oomichi | that is hard to triage all of them by a single person | 17:26 |
| mtreinish | oomichi: 200+ untriaged bugs? | 17:27 |
| oomichi | to see the progress easily, the graph is #link https://github.com/oomichi/bug-counter#current-graph | 17:27 |
| mtreinish | oomichi: that looks like there are only 10-20 bugs that are untriaged | 17:27 |
| mtreinish | most are in progress | 17:27 |
| oomichi | mtreinish: yeah, but actually, in-progress patches also is not in progress | 17:28 |
| oomichi | over 2 years, many patches are abandoned and no progress. | 17:28 |
| mtreinish | doesn't it mean there is a review up for it? | 17:28 |
| mtreinish | I thought jeepyb changes the status back if the patch is abandonded | 17:28 |
| oomichi | abandoned patches don't affect the status of LP | 17:28 |
| oomichi | oh, I didn't know jeepyb. is that implemented recently? | 17:29 |
| mtreinish | oomichi: no, it's a very old project. That's the tool that does the gerrit lp integration | 17:30 |
| mtreinish | well very old in openstack terms :) | 17:30 |
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| oomichi | mtreinish: heh, it is nice to check current status of that:) | 17:30 |
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| oomichi | #action oomichi checks jeepyb status | 17:30 |
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| mtreinish | oomichi: https://github.com/openstack-infra/jeepyb/blob/master/jeepyb/cmd/update_bug.py | 17:31 |
| oomichi | mtreinish: thanks, oh no activity over 8 months | 17:32 |
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| oomichi | ok, do we have more topics related to Tempest? | 17:32 |
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| oomichi | #topic DevStack + Grenade | 17:33 |
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| oomichi | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack-dev/devstack+status:open | 17:34 |
| oomichi | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack-dev/grenade+status:open | 17:34 |
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| oomichi | do we have more topics related to them this week? | 17:35 |
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| oomichi | ok, let's move on | 17:36 |
| oomichi | #topic openstack-health | 17:36 |
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| oomichi | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/openstack-health+status:open | 17:36 |
| oomichi | do we have more topics related to o-h? | 17:37 |
| mtreinish | well we landed a bunch of improvements to the per test page recently | 17:37 |
| mtreinish | and timothyb89 is working on rewriting our graph generation to improve performance and decrease the memory footprint | 17:38 |
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| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/363934 | 17:38 |
| oomichi | mtreinish: oh, cool | 17:38 |
| timothyb89 | good progress on that so far, hopefully will be ready next week or so | 17:38 |
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| oomichi | timothyb89: does it improve the performance of drawing? | 17:39 |
| timothyb89 | oomichi: yes, especially while scrolling | 17:40 |
| oomichi | timothyb89: oh, really cool. thanks for doing that:) | 17:40 |
| timothyb89 | it should make redraws essentially free, so scrolling lag should be pretty much eliminated :) | 17:40 |
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| oomichi | timothyb89: ++ | 17:40 |
| oomichi | I'd like to pick another one #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/287679/ up here | 17:41 |
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| oomichi | that is a little difficult to understand dual graphs, but I prefer that | 17:42 |
| oomichi | #link http://logs.openstack.org/79/287679/2/check/gate-openstack-health-npm-run-test/a61f766/reports/build/#/ | 17:42 |
| oomichi | are there any idea for improvements to understand easily? | 17:42 |
| oomichi | we can zoom up by selecting the range on bottom graph | 17:43 |
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| oomichi | but at the first looking, it seems just duplicated | 17:43 |
| mtreinish | right, which is the problem that was there in earlier revs | 17:43 |
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| mtreinish | there is no indication what is going on and it's very confusing | 17:43 |
| oomichi | mtreinish: yeah, I also was confused | 17:44 |
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| oomichi | ok, let's wait for more feedback later | 17:45 |
| oomichi | #topic Critical reviews | 17:45 |
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| oomichi | do we have some patches we need to review in this week? | 17:45 |
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| mtreinish | oomichi: it's not critical and not ready to merge yet but: | 17:46 |
| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/364414/ | 17:46 |
| mtreinish | I pushed that out this morning to fix http proxy settings | 17:46 |
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| oomichi | ok, I will check it. but that is still on red | 17:47 |
| mtreinish | I did just say it's not ready to merge :) | 17:47 |
| mtreinish | also is not a qa project but: | 17:47 |
| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/357987/ | 17:48 |
| oomichi | mtreinish: ah, I missed that ;) | 17:48 |
| mtreinish | I pushed that out to address the backwards incompat change that landed a couple weeks ago | 17:48 |
| mtreinish | so we can actually do config opt deprecations and not break everyone | 17:48 |
| oomichi | yeah, I agree to avoid that | 17:49 |
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| oomichi | mtreinish: the patch is to show some warning of deprecation? | 17:50 |
| mtreinish | oomichi: it's so you can use a deprecated option name in code (it will emit a warning if you do that) | 17:50 |
| oomichi | I am checking line 2864 on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/357987/3/oslo_config/cfg.py | 17:50 |
| mtreinish | today if you change a config opt name (even with deprecation) in code only the new name works | 17:50 |
| mtreinish | which a change doing that was approved a couple weeks ago (not the first time) and it broke a ton of plugins | 17:51 |
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| mtreinish | we reverted it (which broke the plugins which updated) because it was too widespread an accidental break | 17:51 |
| oomichi | can I know which option affected the projects? | 17:52 |
| oomichi | mtreinish: ah, I see. I remember | 17:52 |
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| oomichi | I guess puppet jobs also were affected | 17:52 |
| mtreinish | oomichi: it's all options, but in this case it was: | 17:53 |
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| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/357907/ | 17:53 |
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| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/349749/ | 17:53 |
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| mtreinish | right, the puppet jobs caught it | 17:53 |
| oomichi | mtreinish: yeah, yeah | 17:53 |
| oomichi | puppet jobs seems useful to catch this kind of problem now | 17:54 |
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| oomichi | do we have more patches needed to be reviewed? | 17:55 |
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| oomichi | #topic Open Discussion | 17:55 |
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| hogepodge | I have one quick tempest item related to defcore | 17:56 |
| oomichi | hogepodge: thanks, go ahead:) | 17:56 |
| hogepodge | downstream vendor is running into a problem where images come up with non-zero volume attachments | 17:56 |
| hogepodge | causing this test to fail | 17:56 |
| hogepodge | test_attach_volume.AttachVolumeTestJSON.test_list_get_volume_attachments | 17:56 |
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| hogepodge | the test assumes zero at boot, so I will submit a patch to count the number at boot then do a delta after attachment | 17:57 |
| hogepodge | also, this test tempest.api.compute.images.test_images.ImagesTestJSON.test_delete_saving_image | 17:58 |
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| hogepodge | their cloud moves from saving to active really fast, causing the test to fail | 17:58 |
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| hogepodge | anyway, just some notes on things I'll be poking at | 17:58 |
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| oomichi | #link https://github.com/openstack/tempest/blob/master/tempest/api/compute/images/test_images.py#L44 | 17:58 |
| mtreinish | hogepodge: is there a bug filed for that | 17:59 |
| mtreinish | hogepodge: I've always worried about that happening on tests that wait until a transient state like saving or building to try and trigger something | 17:59 |
| hogepodge | no, but we're going to do that | 17:59 |
| mtreinish | because that always was a inherent race condition in the test | 17:59 |
| oomichi | hogepodge: ah, yeah, it is possible to miss SAVING status on the test | 18:00 |
| hogepodge | mtreinish: I was thinking of using more refined logic to allow skipping 'saving' state | 18:00 |
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| oomichi | ok, the time is comming | 18:00 |
| oomichi | #endmeeting | 18:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 1 18:00:59 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2016/qa.2016-09-01-17.00.html | 18:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2016/qa.2016-09-01-17.00.txt | 18:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2016/qa.2016-09-01-17.00.log.html | 18:01 |
| oomichi | let's talk on -qa channel later | 18:01 |
| oomichi | thanks all | 18:01 |
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| mriedem | #startmeeting nova | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 1 21:00:22 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mriedem. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 21:00 |
| alaski | o/ | 21:00 |
| takashin | o/ | 21:00 |
| bauzas | \o | 21:00 |
| raj_singh | o/ | 21:00 |
| melwitt | o/ | 21:00 |
| dansmith | o- | 21:00 |
| Gibi | o/ | 21:00 |
| mriedem | #link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova | 21:00 |
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| auggy | o/ | 21:00 |
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| mriedem | let's make this a fast one since we are watching some changes go through the gate for n-3 | 21:01 |
| mriedem | #topic release status | 21:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "release status (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:01 | |
| mriedem | n-3 and feature freeze is today | 21:01 |
| mriedem | we are watching for 3 things to get in before FF and n-3 | 21:01 |
| mriedem | 1. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/364498/ | 21:01 |
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| mriedem | for placement allocations | 21:01 |
| mriedem | 2. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/356138/ for listing instances with cells v2 | 21:02 |
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| alaski | that merged | 21:02 |
| mriedem | 3. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/326906 for cells mq switching | 21:02 |
| mriedem | sweet | 21:02 |
| * edleafe wanders in | 21:02 | |
| mriedem | once those are merged we'll tag n-3 | 21:02 |
| mriedem | novaclient 6.0.0 was released this week and is in upper-constraints | 21:03 |
| mriedem | #info Sep 12-16: PTL self-nominations open for Ocata | 21:03 |
| mriedem | fyi on that ^ | 21:03 |
| mriedem | #info Sep 15: RC1 | 21:03 |
| mriedem | so we have 2 weeks to rc1 | 21:03 |
| mriedem | be on the lookout for critical bugs | 21:03 |
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| mriedem | questions? | 21:04 |
| mriedem | i'm going to skip bugs and gate status, nothing critical to report there | 21:04 |
| mriedem | #topic summit planning | 21:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "summit planning (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:04 | |
| tonyb | mriedem: can I patch nova to work better with os-brick 1.6.X? | 21:04 |
| tonyb | or is that better for ocata? | 21:04 |
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| mriedem | tonyb: that's a bug fix, so ok | 21:05 |
| tonyb | \o/ | 21:05 |
| mriedem | although i already put up a patch for that today | 21:05 |
| tonyb | mriedem: okay, the problem with having stale context :( | 21:05 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/364454/ | 21:05 |
| mriedem | there might be other issues, but let's just bug fix those afterware | 21:05 |
| mriedem | so back to summit planning | 21:05 |
| mriedem | Etherpad for topics: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-nova-summit-ideas | 21:05 |
| mriedem | We'll have 13 fishbowl sessions (all of Thurs and Fri morning), and the meetup style on Friday afternoon. Compared to Austin where we had 18 FB sessions and a full Friday meetup. | 21:06 |
| mriedem | we probably had a few too many FB sessions in austin so i think this is ok | 21:06 |
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| mriedem | #link Ocata is a shorter cycle with a tentative schedule here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/357214/ | 21:06 |
| mriedem | Because of this we'll probably limit to one unconference session and focus the majority of the release on priority items carried over from Newton, like cells v2, placement API, and libvirt storage pools. | 21:06 |
| mriedem | i'm thinking planning meetings for sessions after rc1 | 21:07 |
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| mriedem | questions about the summit? | 21:07 |
| mriedem | #topic open discussion | 21:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:07 | |
| mriedem | (xavvior) Resume Guests State automatically rebuild on error | 21:08 |
| mriedem | BUG: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1585494 | 21:08 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1585494 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Rebuild instance, if the physical data is missing (at start)" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Alex Szarka (xavvior) | 21:08 |
| xavvior | Hi all, about this patch: | 21:08 |
| xavvior | This patch automatically rebuilds the instance, if we get any error during resume. At rebuild we restore all attributes of instance from database (e.g.: ip addresses, networks). | 21:08 |
| xavvior | As base conception, we automatically rebuild the instance, if the physical files is missing from the disk. For example: compute blade replacement (due to hardware failure) and then nova can't recover, resume the instance. | 21:09 |
| alaski | this is what evacuate is intended for right? | 21:09 |
| xavvior | Also, we kept the original restarting conception and extended it, so we introduce a new config flag, and we can turn on/off the fully automated rebuild. | 21:09 |
| xavvior | If this flag is False (this default value), then behaviour stays the same as before, set instance state to error and we can do nothing with this instance. If the flag is true (the system operator can set this), then all instance with error state is automatically is tried to rebuild. If it also fail, then set the instance state to error. | 21:09 |
| xavvior | On instance we don't store persistent data at normal, therefore I think, this not dangerous, but not restricted, so we set this decision of system administrator. | 21:09 |
| xavvior | The restart already automatized in nova and we'd the rebuild automatize as like restart. Also, automatized restarting can cause damage too (as we try to reboot from a corrupt disk, that can cause more corruption -> data loss) | 21:09 |
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| bauzas | is that a feature rather ? | 21:10 |
| mriedem | xavvior: so i think this is at least a blueprint, probably needs a spec discussion | 21:10 |
| mriedem | i definitely don't think this is a bug fix | 21:10 |
| alaski | yeah, this is more a feature than bug | 21:10 |
| mriedem | a spec would be a good place to explain the use case and why this is different from evacuate | 21:10 |
| mriedem | or evacuate doesn't work for this | 21:10 |
| alaski | and it seems like evacuate covers this, though it's not automated | 21:10 |
| mriedem | xavvior: so i think you should work on a blueprint and start a spec for ocata | 21:10 |
| bauzas | xavvior: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/process.html#how-do-i-get-my-code-merged can help understanding the process | 21:11 |
| gibi | is it still a feature if the resume fails only beacuse the instance is not defined in libvirt but the local disk exists (as it was on shared storage)? | 21:11 |
| mriedem | "If physical data is missing from the disk (e.g.: compute blade replacement due to hardware failure), nova can't recover instances. But we should try to rebuild instances with the original data (which are stored in the database)." | 21:12 |
| mriedem | that reads to me as the scenario for using evacuate | 21:13 |
| mriedem | unplanned outage and you have to resurrect an instance from a failed compute | 21:13 |
| bauzas | gibi: if the operator tramples the disks, then I don't think Nova should help him | 21:13 |
| alaski | if somehow Nova is causing the instance to be incorrectly removed from libvirt that's a bug. anything outside of that needs discussion | 21:13 |
| bauzas | yeah that | 21:13 |
| raj_singh | mriedem: Will you remove your -2's from centralize-config-option patches next week? | 21:14 |
| mriedem | raj_singh: maybe | 21:14 |
| gibi | alaski: in this case the it is not nova that removes the instance from libvirt but the hw replacement removes it | 21:14 |
| mriedem | with 2 weeks to rc1 i don't want a ton of distraction really | 21:14 |
| raj_singh | mriedem: Ok | 21:14 |
| alaski | gibi: I wouldn't consider that a bug. If Nova has to deal with external changes like that it's a feature | 21:15 |
| bauzas | +1 | 21:15 |
| gibi | alaski: OK. Let's spec this up | 21:15 |
| mriedem | but my pet! | 21:15 |
| alaski | gibi: sounds good, thanks! | 21:15 |
| mriedem | xavvior: did you follow that? | 21:15 |
| gibi | mriedem: yeah, this is about pets | 21:15 |
| mriedem | if you have questions just hit us up in #openstack-nova in irc | 21:15 |
| xavvior | yes, i follow the talk | 21:15 |
| mriedem | preferrably after FF | 21:15 |
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| * dansmith is losing focus quick | 21:15 | |
| mriedem | oh shit we're losing him | 21:16 |
| * mriedem grabs paddles | 21:16 | |
| mriedem | anything else? | 21:16 |
| dansmith | hah | 21:16 |
| mriedem | ok then let's wrap up newton | 21:16 |
| mriedem | CLEAR! | 21:16 |
| mriedem | #endmeeting | 21:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 21:16 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 1 21:16:36 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:16 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2016/nova.2016-09-01-21.00.html | 21:16 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2016/nova.2016-09-01-21.00.txt | 21:16 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2016/nova.2016-09-01-21.00.log.html | 21:16 |
| dansmith | nice | 21:16 |
| auggy | i was imagining mriedem talking like the micro machine man | 21:16 |
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| armax | hello folks | 22:00 |
| armax | is anyone around? | 22:00 |
| amuller | o/ | 22:00 |
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| dougwig | O/ | 22:01 |
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| armax | kevinbenton is going to be a few mins late | 22:01 |
| armax | amotoki does not seem to be around | 22:01 |
| HenryG | o/ | 22:01 |
| armax | HenryG: hi | 22:02 |
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| HenryG | hi | 22:02 |
| carl_baldwin | o/ | 22:02 |
| carl_baldwin | I've been here the whole time, just didn't say anything. :) | 22:02 |
| armax | I see | 22:03 |
| armax | #startmeeting neutron_drivers | 22:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 1 22:03:08 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is armax. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:03 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_drivers' | 22:03 |
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| armax | I don’t have a formal agenda | 22:03 |
| armax | this might turn out to be a short meeting | 22:04 |
| amuller | We could go over features targeted for rc1? | 22:04 |
| armax | if nothing else I’d like to draw people’s attention on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/360207/ | 22:04 |
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| armax | amuller: it’s all blueprints :) | 22:04 |
| armax | amuller: we completed 0 in N-3 | 22:04 |
| armax | 2 in N-2 | 22:04 |
| armax | 0 in N-1 | 22:04 |
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| carl_baldwin | When you put it that way... | 22:05 |
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| armax | carl_baldwin: I suppose this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/360207/2/specs/archive/mitaka/unaddressed-port.rst | 22:06 |
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| armax | needs no renaming | 22:06 |
| armax | but rather be targeted for Newton, is that right? | 22:06 |
| amuller | we switched to native interfaces for ovsdb and openflow... I bet we did a lot of other stuff that wasn't tracked via RFE bugs or blueprints | 22:06 |
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| carl_baldwin | armax: right | 22:07 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: ok I’ll fix that | 22:07 |
| armax | HenryG: I still haven’t seen your notes and neither I have seen dougwig's | 22:07 |
| armax | or amuller's | 22:07 |
| armax | can I ask your help in making me draw an accurate picture? | 22:08 |
| HenryG | armax: yeah, I'll get my notes added tomorrow | 22:08 |
| armax | thanks | 22:08 |
| amuller | armax: is the current list including all RFEs and all blueprints already? | 22:08 |
| armax | amuller: yes | 22:08 |
| amuller | ok thanks | 22:09 |
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| armax | amuller: I need to add one that fell through the cracks but the list is current | 22:09 |
| armax | to the best of my knowledge | 22:09 |
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| armax | Ideally I’d like to take the next couple of days to see what blueprints/rfe have enough chance to land complete until Sept 12 | 22:09 |
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| armax | After that we are completely in lock down more as far as Newton goes | 22:10 |
| armax | and we’ll have time until Oct 3rd to address any RC critical issues | 22:11 |
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| kevinbenton | when is newton branch cut? | 22:12 |
| armax | the week of Sep 12, as soon as we have a good RC1 | 22:12 |
| armax | I was talking to Ihar this morning and we were mulling over the idea of using Ocata 1 to focus on only a handful of blueprints | 22:12 |
| armax | that have partially completed in Newton and represent a substantial level of baggage if we don’t clear them fast enough | 22:13 |
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| kevinbenton | e.g ? | 22:13 |
| armax | like OVO, Keystone v3, push notifications | 22:13 |
| carl_baldwin | armax: Examples? | 22:13 |
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| kevinbenton | stupid question, how is OVO relevant to the release if we aren't using it anywhere? | 22:14 |
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| armax | if we make OVO a dependency for a few other efforts, the fact that we’re not 100% complete hinders our ability to proceed as fast as we could | 22:14 |
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| armax | I thought you above all else got stung by it | 22:15 |
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| kevinbenton | yep, but i don't see OVO getting finished in a week | 22:15 |
| armax | I am not suggesting that | 22:15 |
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| armax | and I am not suggesting this in the Newton timeframe | 22:16 |
| armax | did I give this impression? | 22:17 |
| carl_baldwin | I understood you meant from the time Ocata opens to O-1 | 22:17 |
| carl_baldwin | Is that right? | 22:17 |
| armax | yes | 22:17 |
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| armax | we obviously need core reviewer volunteers | 22:18 |
| armax | to help us transition the codebase in such a way that we’re not in some sort of limbo where things are only done half way | 22:19 |
| carl_baldwin | I'd like to be a little more involved with OVO and push notifications. | 22:19 |
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| carl_baldwin | ... otherwise, I won't recognize the code base when y'all are done with it. | 22:19 |
| armax | correct | 22:20 |
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| armax | the point being that as core reviewer team we need to take more responbiility of the codebase | 22:20 |
| carl_baldwin | ++ | 22:20 |
| armax | if one 2 core reviewers are involved in these transformation we’d end up as carl_baldwin said | 22:20 |
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| armax | that we don’t recognize where stuff is or is like | 22:21 |
| dougwig | focus and closing some of these things is better than them staying open forever. i think it's worth a try. | 22:21 |
| armax | and we can’t be core anymore! | 22:21 |
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| armax | :) | 22:21 |
| armax | we’d be out of a job! | 22:21 |
| dougwig | do the new "cross openstack" goals need to also be included in the list? | 22:21 |
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| carl_baldwin | This might sound dumb but what are the "cross openstack" goals? | 22:22 |
| armax | dougwig: until I manage to read that thread, I defer my duty to response to your answer :) | 22:22 |
| dougwig | armax: just keep repeating how much you like python 3.5 and you'll fake it nicely. | 22:23 |
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| armax | I love it! | 22:23 |
| dougwig | armax: or we can take the week to rewrite the packet flow to go through mysql triggers. | 22:23 |
| dougwig | carl_baldwin: sec, let me dig out a link | 22:23 |
| carl_baldwin | dougwig: thanks | 22:24 |
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| armax | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-August/100537.html | 22:24 |
| armax | is that it? | 22:25 |
| armax | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-August/100537.html | 22:25 |
| dougwig | yes, that's it | 22:25 |
| * carl_baldwin embarrassed to say he muted that thread. | 22:26 | |
| HenryG | There was one message in that thread that mentioned future goals ... | 22:27 |
| dougwig | well, it is less high-level technical goals and more of a qa laundry list right now. but i'd hate to see it suddenly mandated and no one ever looked at it. | 22:27 |
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| dougwig | i either net-split or completely segfaulted everyone. | 22:30 |
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| kevinbenton | dougwig: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BgJEXQkjNQ#t=1m10s | 22:30 |
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| carl_baldwin | lol | 22:31 |
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| HenryG | It was in a comment by Doug Hellman on https://review.openstack.org/349068 from July 30 | 22:32 |
| carl_baldwin | kevinbenton: was that today? | 22:32 |
| kevinbenton | yes | 22:32 |
| kevinbenton | rapid unscheduled disassembly | 22:33 |
| kevinbenton | it's a bad omen, we should not mark m-3 today | 22:33 |
| kevinbenton | dougwig: you did break everything | 22:33 |
| kevinbenton | everyone* | 22:33 |
| carl_baldwin | Wow, it isn't quite as funny knowing it was today. It'll be funny though when the shock is over. | 22:34 |
| kevinbenton | nobody got hurt | 22:34 |
| HenryG | kevinbenton: I think armax got hurt | 22:36 |
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| armax | no I am watching you talk | 22:36 |
| kevinbenton | armax: well what happened? did the thread deadlock? | 22:36 |
| kevinbenton | raise RetryRequest() | 22:36 |
| armax | InvalidEror | 22:36 |
| armax | anyhoo | 22:36 |
| dougwig | kevinbenton: jeebus, not that halfway disgusting hack workaround. | 22:36 |
| kevinbenton | dougwig: show me a distributed system that doesn't use retries and i'll show you a broken distributed system :P | 22:37 |
| armax | if I can ask you guys to take the remaining of time we got in this meeting to go over the postmortem and fill the dots it woudl be super | 22:37 |
| armax | dougwig: particularly the lbaas stuff | 22:37 |
| dougwig | armax: do you want FFE requests in that review, or on the ML? | 22:37 |
| armax | as I suspect blogan is out | 22:37 |
| armax | review | 22:37 |
| dougwig | armax: his twins are out, and thus so is he. | 22:38 |
| armax | we can assess the extent of the work left | 22:38 |
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| armax | and judge whether an FFE can be granted | 22:38 |
| dougwig | ok | 22:38 |
| armax | for those of you who have documentation patches to work on | 22:38 |
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| armax | and have patches under review, please tag me | 22:39 |
| armax | anything else? | 22:40 |
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| armax | I gather not | 22:41 |
| HenryG | nope | 22:41 |
| armax | thanks folks | 22:41 |
| armax | #endmeeting | 22:41 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 1 22:41:13 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:41 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2016/neutron_drivers.2016-09-01-22.03.html | 22:41 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2016/neutron_drivers.2016-09-01-22.03.txt | 22:41 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2016/neutron_drivers.2016-09-01-22.03.log.html | 22:41 |
| HenryG | good night | 22:41 |
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| carl_baldwin | bye | 22:42 |
| carl_baldwin | HenryG: good night | 22:42 |
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