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| thinrichs | courtesy ping: ekcs, masahito, ramineni, tsandall, | 00:04 |
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| tsandall | pong | 00:04 |
| ekcs | hello | 00:04 |
| thinrichs | #startmeeting CongressTeamMeeting | 00:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 5 00:04:22 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is thinrichs. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 00:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 00:04 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'congressteammeeting' | 00:04 |
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| thinrichs | Hi all | 00:04 |
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| thinrichs | Are we all still recovering from the summit last week? | 00:05 |
| ekcs | haha. | 00:05 |
| thinrichs | Agenda for today. Any other items? | 00:05 |
| thinrichs | 1. Summit | 00:06 |
| thinrichs | 2. Distributed arch | 00:06 |
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| thinrichs | #topic Summit | 00:06 |
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| thinrichs | I put together some notes on the summit | 00:07 |
| thinrichs | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-May/093826.html | 00:07 |
| thinrichs | If I missed something or got something wrong, please reply to the mailing list | 00:07 |
| thinrichs | Overall, it was great seeing everyone, and there were a number of good talks/sessions. | 00:07 |
| thinrichs | ekcs: thanks for arranging dinner | 00:08 |
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| ekcs | yups | 00:08 |
| thinrichs | All I had for the summit. | 00:08 |
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| thinrichs | #topic Distributed arch | 00:10 |
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| thinrichs | I haven't had time to look at code since I got back. | 00:11 |
| thinrichs | Has anyone else? | 00:11 |
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| thinrichs | i.e. any status updates? | 00:11 |
| ekcs | i’ve been looking at how to test the datasource loading code. not done yet. | 00:11 |
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| thinrichs | That'd be cool to have in place. | 00:12 |
| ekcs | also continuing discussion about whether update sequencing should be in DataService (could be overridden by subclass for custom behavior) or in DseNode (transparent to DataService) | 00:13 |
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| thinrichs | I did a little thinking about HA and put it into the email. | 00:13 |
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| ekcs | great. and yea also been studynig up on HAproxcy which is the standard HA loadbalancer out there. | 00:15 |
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| thinrichs | Over the next few weeks or months we should work thru the HA design as a spec | 00:16 |
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| thinrichs | While in parallel working thru the distributed arch | 00:17 |
| thinrichs | Well that's all I had this week. Does anyone else have anything? We can make it a short post-summit meeting. | 00:17 |
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| ekcs | nothing more from me. | 00:18 |
| ekcs | I could take a stab at the spec. | 00:19 |
| thinrichs | Sure, if you want, and then we can all weigh in. | 00:20 |
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| thinrichs | Don't feel like it needs to be done before you push it for review. Start with rough ideas, and we'll refine from there. | 00:21 |
| ekcs | got it. | 00:21 |
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| thinrichs | Ok, so let's end the meeting then. | 00:23 |
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| thinrichs | Thanks all. Talk to you next week! | 00:23 |
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| thinrichs | #endmeeting | 00:23 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 5 00:23:41 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 00:23 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2016/congressteammeeting.2016-05-05-00.04.html | 00:23 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2016/congressteammeeting.2016-05-05-00.04.txt | 00:23 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2016/congressteammeeting.2016-05-05-00.04.log.html | 00:23 |
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| katomo | #startmeeting OpenStack I18n Meeting | 06:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 5 06:00:22 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is katomo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 06:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 06:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: OpenStack I18n Meeting)" | 06:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_i18n_meeting' | 06:00 |
| katomo | Hi, anyone here for I18n meeting? | 06:00 |
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| katomo | No one seems to be here. | 06:07 |
| katomo | #endmeeting | 06:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 06:07 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 5 06:07:20 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 06:07 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2016/openstack_i18n_meeting.2016-05-05-06.00.html | 06:07 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2016/openstack_i18n_meeting.2016-05-05-06.00.txt | 06:07 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2016/openstack_i18n_meeting.2016-05-05-06.00.log.html | 06:07 |
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| bobh | spzala: ping | 13:29 |
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| spzala | bobh: hi | 13:29 |
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| bobh | spzala: I'm looking at the requirements change - not sure if the upper-constraints change is necessary, I think the file gets updated automatically, but it looks like other manual changes have been done to the file so probably not a big deal | 13:30 |
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| spzala | bobh: that's what my understanding was, so in patch 1 I only had global-req changed but Jenkins was failing with error for upper-constraint that due to upper constraints global-req can not be changed, so in a following patch I changed that as well. | 13:32 |
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| bobh | spzala: ok - makes sense - I don't understand all of the infra tools well enough to know what is the Right Thing To Do | 13:32 |
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| spzala | bobh: I don't see any Jenkins error now, though it's not happy as you can see for no apparent reason | 13:32 |
| spzala | bobh: :-) | 13:33 |
| spzala | bobh: :-) easy to miss certain things as we don't use those tools on regular basis so same here | 13:33 |
| spzala | bobh: this morning I sent you and sridhar email about the latest .. just fyi | 13:34 |
| bobh | spzala: yep - thanks | 13:34 |
| spzala | bobh: sure, yrw | 13:35 |
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| mriedem | #startmeeting nova | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 5 14:00:14 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mriedem. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:00 | |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 14:00 |
| mriedem | adrian_otto akuriata alevine alexpilotti aloga andreykurilin anteaya artom auggy | 14:00 |
| mriedem | bauzas belliott belmoreira bobball cburgess claudiub danpb dguitarbite _diana_ | 14:00 |
| mriedem | diana_clarke dims duncant edleafe efried flip214 funzo garyk gcb gjayavelu | 14:00 |
| mriedem | irina_pov jaypipes jcookekhugen jgrimm jichen jlvillal jroll kashyap klindgren | 14:00 |
| dansmith | o/ | 14:00 |
| BobBall | o/ | 14:00 |
| doffm | o/ | 14:00 |
| takashin | o/ | 14:00 |
| diana_clarke | o/ | 14:00 |
| andrearosa | hi | 14:00 |
| edleafe | \o | 14:00 |
| mriedem | krtaylor lbeliveau lxsli macsz markus_z mdorman med_ mikal mjturek mnestratov | 14:00 |
| mriedem | moshele mrda nagyz ndipanov neiljerram nic Nisha PaulMurray raildo rgeragnov | 14:00 |
| mriedem | sc68cal scottda sdague sileht sorrison swamireddy thomasem thorst tjones tonyb | 14:00 |
| mriedem | tpatil tpatzig xyang rdopiera sarafraj woodster sahid rbradfor junjie gsilvis | 14:00 |
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| jroll | hai | 14:00 |
| johnthetubaguy | o/ | 14:00 |
| rlrossit | o/ | 14:00 |
| sdague | o/ | 14:00 |
| * kashyap waves | 14:00 | |
| alex_xu | o/ | 14:00 |
| rbradfor | o/ | 14:00 |
| alaski | o/ | 14:00 |
| scottda | hi | 14:00 |
| andreykurilin__ | \o | 14:00 |
| thorst | hi | 14:00 |
| raildo | o/ | 14:00 |
| efried | yo | 14:00 |
| dansmith | cripes | 14:00 |
| lbeliveau | hey | 14:00 |
| lxsli | o/ | 14:01 |
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| abhishek | o/ | 14:01 |
| dims | o/ | 14:01 |
| cdent | o/ | 14:01 |
| mriedem | an army | 14:01 |
| gibi | o/ | 14:01 |
| mriedem | #link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 14:01 |
| efried | post-summit spike? | 14:01 |
| mriedem | of course | 14:01 |
| dims | reporting for duty sir! :) | 14:01 |
| mriedem | #topic release news | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "release news (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:01 | |
| mriedem | #link Rough outline of Newton release milestones is up: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Newton_Release_Schedule | 14:01 |
| mriedem | ^ is based on the priorities session we had last week | 14:01 |
| mriedem | i have a patch to get it into the releases repo also https://review.openstack.org/#/c/312245/ | 14:02 |
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| mriedem | just need dims to approve that | 14:02 |
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| dims | yep, done | 14:02 |
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| dims | was just reviewing that :) | 14:03 |
| mriedem | the next milestone is n-1 which is also non-priority spec approval freeze, on june 2nd | 14:03 |
| mriedem | so we have ~4 weeks to review specs | 14:03 |
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| mriedem | *non-priority specs | 14:03 |
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| mriedem | what are the priorities? you ask | 14:03 |
| mriedem | well, bam! https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/priorities/newton-priorities.html | 14:03 |
| mriedem | also from the session last week | 14:04 |
| mriedem | we have oodles of specs coming in from after the summit, several are just TODOs from discussions | 14:04 |
| mriedem | a lot around cells v2 and API | 14:04 |
| * johnthetubaguy nods with approval in mriedem general direction | 14:04 | |
| mriedem | any questions on the release schedule? | 14:05 |
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| mriedem | #topic bugs | 14:05 |
| jlvillal | o/ | 14:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:05 | |
| mriedem | #link check queue gate status http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/index.html | 14:05 |
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| mriedem | the only news i have here is devstack switched to using fernet tokens by default on 4/29 | 14:05 |
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| mriedem | and now we have race failures in the identity testes | 14:06 |
| mriedem | *tests | 14:06 |
| dansmith | and some neutron tests in our unit tests right? | 14:06 |
| mriedem | a fix merged yesterday but i'm still seeing failures in logstash | 14:06 |
| mriedem | dansmith: which looks like mox? | 14:06 |
| mriedem | i've seen something like that | 14:06 |
| dansmith | some port create failure or someting | 14:06 |
| mriedem | yeah | 14:06 |
| mriedem | i don't have a bug or query for that one | 14:06 |
| efried | Need to port away from mox? | 14:07 |
| mriedem | usually those were in py34 jobs, but that one wasn't | 14:07 |
| mriedem | efried: well, | 14:07 |
| dansmith | I saw these in py27 | 14:07 |
| mriedem | have you seen that class? | 14:07 |
| mriedem | mega mox setup in the base class | 14:07 |
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| mriedem | so porting that one is going to be a massive undertaking | 14:07 |
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| dansmith | in fact, | 14:07 |
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| efried | mriedem, I can't remember why we hate mox. | 14:07 |
| dansmith | it's going to nearly require a parallel effort to make sure we get coverage before we remove the mox ones, | 14:07 |
| mriedem | efried: it doesn't support py3 for one | 14:07 |
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| dansmith | because those tests are soooo tightly coupled to the code | 14:08 |
| mriedem | dansmith: yeah | 14:08 |
| mriedem | efried: there is a doc about it somewhere with more details | 14:08 |
| mriedem | we could at least start by converting the test that's failing to mock, and then drop the old one | 14:08 |
| mriedem | i'm sure it's some variant of allocate_for_instance | 14:08 |
| efried | mriedem, +1 | 14:08 |
| mriedem | efried: it's in http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/developers.html#peer-review | 14:09 |
| mriedem | i'm not seeing our faithful bugs subteam people | 14:09 |
| mriedem | the bugs meeting this week was pretty short, people are still recovering from the summit | 14:09 |
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| mriedem | our new bugs are rising though https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.searchtext=&field.status%3Alist=NEW&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.structural_subscriber=&field.tag=&field.tags_combinator=ANY&field.has_cve.used=&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.affects_me.used=&field.has_patch.used=&field.has_branches.used=&field.has_no_branches.used=&field | 14:10 |
| mriedem | so if you get a spare 10 min, triage a bug, won't you? | 14:10 |
| mriedem | #topic reminders | 14:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "reminders (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:10 | |
| mriedem | #info Newton mid-cycle RSVP closes on Tuesday 5/10: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-May/093815.html | 14:11 |
| mriedem | if you are planning, or thinking of asking, to go to the midcycle, please rsvp ^ by next tuesday | 14:11 |
| mriedem | #info api-ref docs cleanup review sprints on Monday 5/9 and Wednesday 5/11: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-May/093844.html | 14:11 |
| edleafe | The Watcher midcycle is also at Hillsboro on the same dates, FYI | 14:11 |
| mriedem | ok | 14:12 |
| mriedem | we're going to do a review sprint next monday and wednesday for the api-ref docs cleanup | 14:12 |
| mriedem | there are already a bunch of changes up for that | 14:12 |
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| mriedem | well. there were yesterday, looks like there were some busy beavers over night | 14:13 |
| mriedem | #link Newton review focus list: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-nova-priorities-tracking | 14:13 |
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| mriedem | just remember to refresh ^ | 14:13 |
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| mriedem | sdague also has dashboards for the virt driver subteams now i think? | 14:13 |
| sdague | mriedem: I had a proposed set, was looking for feedback on it | 14:14 |
| sdague | it's posted to the list | 14:14 |
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| mriedem | #link driver review dashboards ML thread http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-May/093753.html | 14:14 |
| mriedem | yeah, i haven't read it all yet | 14:14 |
| mriedem | thanks for posting that though | 14:14 |
| BobBall | Just checking that you saw my feedback sdague :) | 14:14 |
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| sdague | BobBall: yep | 14:15 |
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| BobBall | Coolio | 14:15 |
| mriedem | claudiub and garyk aren't here | 14:15 |
| mriedem | so i guess... | 14:15 |
| mriedem | We have 50 approved blueprints: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/newton - 5 are completed, 5 have not started, 3 are blocked | 14:15 |
| mriedem | ^ as of yesterday | 14:16 |
| mriedem | #help https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/BugTriage#Weekly_bug_skimming_duty Volunteers for 1 week of bug skimming duty? | 14:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: hmm, that looks really quite good, with just looking for a +1, nice | 14:16 |
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| mriedem | looks like the table in https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/BugTriage#Weekly_bug_skimming_duty needs to be updated | 14:16 |
| mriedem | #action mriedem to update the table in https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/BugTriage#Weekly_bug_skimming_duty | 14:16 |
| jroll | sdague: what's the best way to add ironic there? | 14:17 |
| jroll | is it in the dashboard repo or? | 14:17 |
| mriedem | jroll: he's proposing it for that i think | 14:17 |
| sdague | jroll: yes, it's in the dashboard repo already in that form | 14:17 |
| mriedem | see what's in the ML thread and copy/change for ironic | 14:17 |
| jroll | sdague: okay, I'll propose a change there | 14:17 |
| sdague | jroll: great | 14:18 |
| jroll | thanks | 14:18 |
| mriedem | anything else on bugs? | 14:18 |
| mriedem | #topic stable branches | 14:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "stable branches (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:18 | |
| mriedem | #link Stable branch status: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/stable-tracker | 14:18 |
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| mriedem | there is nothing really new for issues affecting nova as far as i know | 14:18 |
| mriedem | stable team is on summit hangover also | 14:18 |
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| mriedem | we have quite a few mitaka and liberty backports open for review | 14:19 |
| mriedem | and kilo is in eol freeze | 14:19 |
| mriedem | Daviey has been going through all stable/kilo changes and -2ing them to prep for the final release before EOLing the branch | 14:19 |
| mriedem | so if you have something in https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/kilo,n,z that you think needs to get in, you need to propose a freeze exception to the dev list | 14:20 |
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| mriedem | #topic Subteam Highlights | 14:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Subteam Highlights (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:20 | |
| mriedem | i hope people are here :) | 14:20 |
| mriedem | alaski: cells v2 meeting recap? | 14:21 |
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| alaski | lots of jetlag | 14:21 |
| mriedem | was mostly do reviews | 14:21 |
| mriedem | bunch of specs up for review | 14:21 |
| mriedem | dansmith is working on migrating keypairs to the api db | 14:21 |
| alaski | yes, a lot of db migrations under discussion | 14:21 |
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| alaski | melwitt is working on mq switching | 14:21 |
| alaski | ccarmack on testing still | 14:21 |
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| alaski | and everyone else on db migrations | 14:22 |
| mriedem | ok, and the add-buildrequest-obj series | 14:22 |
| alaski | yep | 14:22 |
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| mriedem | which looks like partially merged last week or so | 14:22 |
| alaski | I'm sidetracked on policy briefly and then I'll be back to that | 14:22 |
| mriedem | yup | 14:22 |
| mriedem | ok, thanks | 14:22 |
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| mriedem | we don't have jaypipes, anyone else for the scheduler meeting highlights? | 14:23 |
| mriedem | cdent: ? | 14:23 |
| cdent | hola | 14:23 |
| * cdent thinks | 14:23 | |
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| mriedem | the spec for generic-resource-pools is top priority this week i think | 14:23 |
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| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/300176/ | 14:24 |
| jroll | not from the meeting, but we had a long talk with jay about scrapping the currently proposed ironic multiple compute host thing in favor of leveraging generic-resource-pools | 14:24 |
| cdent | Yeah, nothing huge to report from the meeting, but yes, the specs rolling in on the resource-provider stack are active | 14:24 |
| mriedem | and then resource-providers-allocations | 14:24 |
| cdent | yeah, dynamic resource classes was posted by jay recently | 14:24 |
| mriedem | jroll: cool | 14:24 |
| mriedem | jroll: when i went back and read the re-approved compute hosts spec for ironic i was thinking it sounded a lot of like generic-resource-pools | 14:24 |
| jroll | mriedem: might end up with a spec coming your way on that | 14:24 |
| cdent | there's some heated debate going on related to how to do logging of hosts not matching during scheduling | 14:24 |
| jroll | yeah | 14:24 |
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| jroll | there's some ops-ability things to work out but I think it's solvable | 14:25 |
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| mriedem | cdent: cfriesen's spec? | 14:25 |
| cdent | and some quibbling over whether or not to use the db to resolve scheduling | 14:25 |
| cdent | mriedem: yes | 14:25 |
| cdent | loggin: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/306647/ | 14:25 |
| cdent | dynamic resoource classes: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/312696/ | 14:25 |
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| mriedem | ok, i do see some ops people +1ing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/306647/ | 14:25 |
| edleafe | seems like we had that filter action logging discussion years ago | 14:25 |
| mriedem | i brought that up in the ops meeting yesterday | 14:25 |
| mriedem | glad they chimed in | 14:26 |
| cdent | scheduling in db: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/300178/ | 14:26 |
| cdent | yeah, quite a lot of input on the logging for "new" people, which is very useful | 14:26 |
| edleafe | cdent: +1 | 14:26 |
| mriedem | ok, and there is the thread about placement CLI/API in the dev list, but let's not get into that here | 14:26 |
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| cdent | I'm, personally, still vaguely confused on the need for the logs (see my comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/300178/ for doing resource management via filters being bad) | 14:27 |
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| mriedem | #link dev list thread on placement API/CLI http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-May/093955.html | 14:27 |
| mriedem | moving on | 14:27 |
| mriedem | PaulMurray isn't around | 14:28 |
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| mriedem | anyone can speak for the live migration meeting? | 14:28 |
| mriedem | mdbooth: ? | 14:28 |
| mdbooth | I hadn't prepared anything | 14:28 |
| lxsli | mriedem: give him one sec | 14:28 |
| lxsli | yelling at him | 14:28 |
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| mdbooth | PaulMurray would be best :) | 14:28 |
| PaulMurray | hi - | 14:28 |
| PaulMurray | just joined - whatsup | 14:29 |
| mriedem | PaulMurray: hi! any highlights from the live migration meeting this week? | 14:29 |
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| PaulMurray | we did a recap of the summit | 14:29 |
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| mriedem | ok | 14:30 |
| PaulMurray | pretty much the same as the email I put on ML | 14:30 |
| mriedem | moving on? | 14:30 |
| mriedem | at some point i plan on adding a patch for an lvm gate job | 14:30 |
| mriedem | for mdbooth's refactor series | 14:30 |
| mdbooth | mriedem: +1 | 14:30 |
| mriedem | sdague: want to highlight the api subteam meeting? | 14:30 |
| sdague | sure | 14:31 |
| mdbooth | mriedem: Not sure this is the right time, but I'm also not convinced we have CI coverage of both Qcow2 and 'Raw' backends | 14:31 |
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| mdbooth | Suspect we only cover 1, but may be wrong | 14:31 |
| sdague | a lot of it was on the deletion of the legacy v2 code in tree, which we agreed at summit | 14:31 |
| sdague | the paste.ini entries are fully removed now, as well as the functional tests for the legacy code | 14:32 |
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| sdague | so there will be a series of test tear downs, then the final code remove over the next couple of weeks | 14:32 |
| sdague | we're doing the api-ref sprint next week, I'm trying to work out something for a progress, burn down chart | 14:33 |
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| sdague | and lastly people are focussed on the policy in code specs to get those reviewed to completion | 14:33 |
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| sdague | that's the big focus for this week | 14:33 |
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| mriedem | ok, thanks, already making good progress on the summit items | 14:34 |
| mriedem | i don't see moshele around | 14:34 |
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| sdague | yeh, there are a few specs on delete / deprecation which are being posted as well, based on summit items | 14:34 |
| mriedem | but he did post some notes from the sriov/pci meeting this week to the dev list | 14:34 |
| mriedem | lbeliveau and sfinucane are working on filling gaps in the NFV docs | 14:34 |
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| mriedem | and it sounds like mellanox ci is working on moving to containers for their ci like how the intel nfv ci does it | 14:35 |
| lbeliveau | mriedem: a couple of ones are already merged | 14:35 |
| mriedem | lbeliveau: ah, cool | 14:35 |
| mriedem | thanks for working on that | 14:35 |
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| mriedem | gibi: did you want to share anything about the notifications meeting? | 14:36 |
| gibi | sure | 14:36 |
| gibi | the etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-versioned-notifications is up to date after the summit | 14:36 |
| gibi | we are working on to get the transformation spec merged | 14:36 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286675/ | 14:37 |
| gibi | johnthetubaguy gave feedback so couple of things needs to be updated | 14:37 |
| mriedem | i see john has the -1 of death on there | 14:37 |
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| johnthetubaguy | its not too serious, its mostly little things | 14:37 |
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| mriedem | of death | 14:37 |
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| gibi | :) | 14:37 |
| johnthetubaguy | we have an odd dependency on stuff that modifies notifications | 14:37 |
| mriedem | it sounds like the searchlight team is also interested in helping with this, which is great | 14:37 |
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| johnthetubaguy | but an idea came up where we just add TODOs for new notifications, while gibi gets that sorted | 14:38 |
| gibi | besides that we have quite much of new notification specs are up on review from different parties | 14:38 |
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| johnthetubaguy | because of that "no more old style notifications" code review rule we decided on | 14:38 |
| gibi | yes, I will try to be put of PoC code soon for instance.delete | 14:39 |
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| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: is someone going to put that in the nova devref review guide page? | 14:39 |
| gibi | that will help others | 14:39 |
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| gibi | mriedem: I think it is already there... | 14:39 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, its in there already | 14:39 |
| johnthetubaguy | down the bottom | 14:39 |
| mriedem | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/code-review.html#notifications | 14:39 |
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| mriedem | hells bells | 14:39 |
| gibi | bottom of the page | 14:39 |
| johnthetubaguy | thats the one | 14:39 |
| mriedem | alright, sounds good, thanks | 14:40 |
| mriedem | moving on | 14:40 |
| mriedem | #topic stuck reviews | 14:40 |
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| mriedem | there is nothing in the agenda | 14:40 |
| mriedem | #topic open discussion | 14:40 |
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| mriedem | abhishek: are you around? | 14:40 |
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| abhishek | hi | 14:41 |
| mriedem | review request for: Set migration status to 'error' on live-migration failure - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/215483/ | 14:41 |
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| abhishek | I have already requested alaski for his review | 14:41 |
| alaski | I've mostly lost the context on it since it's from a while ago | 14:41 |
| alaski | but there's a short term workaround that can be applied if we modify task states a bit on failure | 14:42 |
| mriedem | abhishek: have you talked to tdurakov about this? | 14:42 |
| alaski | and then an idea to proactively clean stuff up and not rely on periodic tasks doing error cleanups | 14:42 |
| johnthetubaguy | this is error vs failed in the migration object right? | 14:42 |
| mriedem | seems like something related to a thing he was working on | 14:42 |
| alaski | johnthetubaguy: yes | 14:42 |
| abhishek | johnthetubaguy: right | 14:42 |
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| abhishek | mriedem: no I will catch him | 14:42 |
| PaulMurray | alaski, there were two queries on this | 14:42 |
| PaulMurray | one was failed vs error as an api visible change | 14:43 |
| PaulMurray | the other was about continuing with the hacky cleanup - which is | 14:43 |
| PaulMurray | what your referring to I think | 14:43 |
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| PaulMurray | do we care about the failed vs error question ? | 14:43 |
| johnthetubaguy | I am more worried about the clean up working, honestly | 14:44 |
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| alaski | personally I would rather this be done correctly, i.e. without relying on a periodic | 14:44 |
| abhishek | IMO right now there is now way we can cleanup this other than periodic task | 14:44 |
| mriedem | might be worth asking on the ops channel | 14:44 |
| alaski | but I don't understand the complexities of changing the failure state | 14:44 |
| PaulMurray | alaski, its just that its seen in the api | 14:45 |
| mriedem | or ops list | 14:45 |
| mriedem | yeah, so it would be a behavior change in the API | 14:45 |
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| PaulMurray | not sure about meaning of error vs failed in this case too | 14:45 |
| PaulMurray | I think one is meant to be recoverable and the other not ? | 14:46 |
| alaski | yeah, I guess I don't understand why those are two different states | 14:46 |
| mriedem | "The 'error' means something unexpected happened, and nova can't cleanup it automatically. The 'failed' means something wrong happened, and nova can handle it clearly." | 14:46 |
| mriedem | from alex_xu in the patch | 14:46 |
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| mriedem | there might be more info about this in ndipanov's migratoin state machine spec? | 14:47 |
| alaski | this gets into a whole area of api versioning that I don't think is well covered yet | 14:47 |
| PaulMurray | so it looks like we are using error to trigger an auto cleanup ? | 14:47 |
| alaski | if we change the state machine in Nova do we have to advertise that? | 14:47 |
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| dansmith | we don't publish the actual state machine (because there isn't really one) so I don't think it matters | 14:48 |
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| alaski | I mean, shouldn't there be an expectation that either error or failure could happen | 14:48 |
| dansmith | plus it differs between hypervisors for things like boot | 14:48 |
| mriedem | if you're writing client side code that's checking for error or failed on the migration object, i doubt you're doing anything differently for either state | 14:48 |
| johnthetubaguy | alaski: we have been hiding the state changes with alias and unknown status, AFAIK | 14:48 |
| mriedem | to a client they are both failures | 14:48 |
| alaski | mriedem: yeah | 14:49 |
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| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: hmm, true, the state changes and progress increments in slightly different ways I guess | 14:49 |
| dansmith | yeah | 14:49 |
| alaski | so to me it seems that changing from error to failure, or the other way, should be fine | 14:50 |
| alaski | if what's being used now is wrong | 14:50 |
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| mriedem | the change is using 'error' instead of 'failed' for live migration | 14:50 |
| mriedem | to work like cold migrate/resize | 14:50 |
| mriedem | so that periodic cleanup task finds it | 14:50 |
| abhishek | right | 14:50 |
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| mriedem | because that checks for 'error' migrations | 14:50 |
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| mriedem | anyway, sounds like we're meh on the state change | 14:51 |
| mriedem | there were comments in the patch about not wanting to rely on the periodic task | 14:51 |
| alaski | I am. seems fine to me, with the acknowledgement that this is all still hacky | 14:52 |
| mriedem | i don't know what the solutions are for that, | 14:52 |
| mriedem | but we don't need to get into those details in this meeting either probably | 14:52 |
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| PaulMurray | I think this should be a short term work around for now | 14:52 |
| mriedem | i added tdurakov to the review to see if he has input | 14:52 |
| mriedem | PaulMurray: i think that's reasonable | 14:52 |
| PaulMurray | we should redo the migration process anyway | 14:52 |
| mriedem | since there is talk of refactoring a lot of this | 14:52 |
| PaulMurray | we were going that way in the friday session | 14:52 |
| alaski | yeah, that's what tdurakov is working on | 14:53 |
| abhishek | ok, thank you mriedem and all | 14:53 |
| mriedem | abhishek: ok, so i guess for now just rebase the patch | 14:53 |
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| mriedem | and talk to tdurakov | 14:53 |
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| abhishek | I will also catch tdurakov | 14:53 |
| abhishek | thank you for your time | 14:53 |
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| mriedem | it also wouldn't hurt to give a heads up on the ops list | 14:53 |
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| mriedem | ok, anyone else have anything for open discussion? | 14:54 |
| mdbooth | Request to merge storage pools 'pre-patches': http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-May/094059.html | 14:54 |
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| mdbooth | Just to highlight that, no need to discuss now | 14:54 |
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| mriedem | ok, i guess we need to get https://review.openstack.org/#/c/302117/ in first | 14:54 |
| mriedem | mdbooth: can you check on that qcow2 vs raw in the gate question? | 14:55 |
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| mdbooth | These are independent of that | 14:55 |
| mdbooth | mriedem: Yes, will do | 14:55 |
| dansmith | mriedem: I was +2 on that minus a couple nits | 14:55 |
| mriedem | mdbooth: they are linked to the bp | 14:55 |
| mriedem | which is linked to the spec | 14:55 |
| dansmith | mriedem: which I think have been fixed now | 14:55 |
| mdbooth | mriedem: Yeah, so the patch series depends on them, but they're not really part of the patch series | 14:55 |
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| mdbooth | If you see what I mean | 14:55 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: they're bugish things | 14:55 |
| mriedem | sure, | 14:55 |
| mriedem | then remove the bp link in those semi unrelated cleanup patches :) | 14:55 |
| dansmith | we should just merge the spec anyway | 14:55 |
| mriedem | if you don't want my -2 hammer of procedure on them | 14:56 |
| mriedem | or we just merge the spec yeah :) | 14:56 |
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| * mdbooth is cool either way | 14:56 | |
| mriedem | #action dansmith to do that thing he does | 14:56 |
| dansmith | I will look at the spec right after this and poke mriedem if it's good | 14:56 |
| mriedem | cool | 14:56 |
| PaulMurray | can you look at the storage pools specs too | 14:56 |
| mdbooth | dansmith: I think we still had some upgrade details to thrash out. | 14:56 |
| PaulMurray | (as well as mdbooth one) | 14:56 |
| mriedem | danpb is specs core too you know... | 14:56 |
| mriedem | and this is all libvirty things | 14:56 |
| PaulMurray | will bug him too | 14:57 |
| mriedem | excellent | 14:57 |
| mriedem | alright, 3 minutes to spare | 14:57 |
| dansmith | can we be done now? | 14:57 |
| mriedem | .... | 14:57 |
| mriedem | yes | 14:57 |
| mriedem | #endmeeting | 14:57 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 5 14:57:35 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2016/nova.2016-05-05-14.00.html | 14:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2016/nova.2016-05-05-14.00.txt | 14:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2016/nova.2016-05-05-14.00.log.html | 14:57 |
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