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| aspiers | hi all | 09:00 |
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| ddeja | hello | 09:00 |
| haoli | :) | 09:00 |
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| aspiers | who else is around today? | 09:00 |
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| aspiers | maybe not too many, it seems | 09:02 |
| ddeja | yup | 09:02 |
| aspiers | let's wait a couple more minutes | 09:02 |
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| ddeja | aspiers: btw, you didn't start meeting, I don't know if it's intentional ;) | 09:03 |
| aspiers | it is :) | 09:03 |
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| aspiers | ok, well it will be a short one :) | 09:04 |
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| aspiers | #startmeeting ha | 09:05 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jan 25 09:05:04 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is aspiers. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:05 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ha)" | 09:05 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ha' | 09:05 |
| aspiers | hi all (although it seems today "all" just refers to one or two people :) | 09:05 |
| ddeja | Hi | 09:05 |
| ddeja | (once again ;) | 09:05 |
| aspiers | :) | 09:05 |
| aspiers | let's do the normal update | 09:06 |
| haoli | hi :) | 09:06 |
| aspiers | #topic Current status (progress, issues, roadblocks, further plans) | 09:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Current status (progress, issues, roadblocks, further plans) (Meeting topic: ha)" | 09:06 | |
| aspiers | not too much from my side | 09:06 |
| aspiers | just a couple of things | 09:06 |
| aspiers | I'm still working on automating setup of compute node HA using Crowbar and Chef | 09:06 |
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| aspiers | and secondly, the private conversation with beekhof continued but I think we pretty much reached alignment by now | 09:07 |
| ddeja | aspiers: coll | 09:07 |
| ddeja | s/coll/cool | 09:07 |
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| aspiers | as a reminder, that was the conversation discussed in last week's meeting about potentially rearchitecting OCF RAs so that they wrap around service(8) and (hence typically systemd) | 09:07 |
| aspiers | I'll give a few more details of that after the status round | 09:08 |
| aspiers | ddeja: any updates from you? | 09:08 |
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| aspiers | #info aspiers still working on automating setup of compute node HA using Crowbar and Chef | 09:08 |
| ddeja | aspiers: yes. I have submitted bug to Mistral that is blocking my workflow https://bugs.launchpad.net/mistral/+bug/1535722 | 09:08 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1535722 in Mistral "Mistral workflow including 'with-items' is not starting on-success task" [Undecided,New] | 09:08 |
| aspiers | cool | 09:09 |
| ddeja | unfortunately, it doesn't got many attention, so I'm working on it by myself. | 09:09 |
| aspiers | ah ;-) | 09:09 |
| ddeja | I have a root cause and a fix, I'm working on unit tests | 09:09 |
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| aspiers | excellent! | 09:09 |
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| aspiers | I'm jealous - wish I had time to work on mistral ;-) | 09:10 |
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| ddeja | that's all from my side | 09:10 |
| beekhof | hi guys, i'm sort of around. just putting kids to bed | 09:10 |
| aspiers | oh hey beekhof :) | 09:10 |
| aspiers | beekhof: you wanna report any status update? | 09:10 |
| ddeja | Hi beekhof | 09:10 |
| aspiers | I guess kids get a higher priority on his scheduler ;-) | 09:11 |
| aspiers | which is very understandable :) | 09:12 |
| ddeja | heh, it looks so | 09:12 |
| aspiers | haoli: are you working on HA, or just lurking? | 09:12 |
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| haoli | im a green hand | 09:13 |
| aspiers | #info ddeja figured out root cause and a fix for the mistral bug discovered, and is working on unit tests | 09:13 |
| haoli | just lurking | 09:13 |
| aspiers | ok, welcome :) | 09:13 |
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| bogdando | hi | 09:14 |
| aspiers | hey bogdando :) any status updates from you? | 09:14 |
| aspiers | IIRC, I saw that the new ha-guide meeting time is now decided? | 09:14 |
| bogdando | nothing special | 09:15 |
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| bogdando | yes | 09:16 |
| bogdando | I wrote an announce to openstack-docs ML | 09:16 |
| beekhof | back modulo tantrums | 09:16 |
| bogdando | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-docs/2016-January/008209.html | 09:17 |
| beekhof | status is that we have the old instance HA stuff working. there is a nice bug in nova that needs to be fixed to make it worthwhile though | 09:17 |
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| beekhof | ack on the meeting. i won't be able to make it unfortunately | 09:18 |
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| beekhof | so how far away from a shootout are we? | 09:19 |
| aspiers | cool | 09:19 |
| aspiers | what kind of shootout? :) | 09:20 |
| aspiers | #info new ha-guide meeting time is now decided | 09:20 |
| beekhof | cage match, 3 implementations enter, 1 implementation leaves | 09:20 |
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| aspiers | hah | 09:20 |
| aspiers | well you could suggest that for the next Ruler Of The Stack competition ;-) | 09:20 |
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| aspiers | beekhof: got a URL for that nova bug? | 09:21 |
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| beekhof | i'll try to dig it up | 09:22 |
| beekhof | its old though | 09:22 |
| aspiers | thanks | 09:22 |
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| aspiers | beekhof: gentle reminder - there are a few open PRs in fence-agents which should be very quick and simple to review | 09:24 |
| beekhof | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1441950 | 09:24 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1441950 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "instance on source host can not be cleaned after evacuating" [Undecided,Confirmed] - Assigned to Zhenyu Zheng (zhengzhenyu) | 09:24 |
| beekhof | i nearly got into them today, much catchup was required | 09:24 |
| aspiers | ok great, thanks! | 09:24 |
| beekhof | oh, fence-agents... not really my area. but i assume these are openstack related? | 09:25 |
| beekhof | i thought you meant the gerrit thingies | 09:25 |
| aspiers | no, I meant https://github.com/ClusterLabs/fence-agents/pulls | 09:26 |
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| aspiers | but you do have one remaining task on gerrit too ;-) | 09:26 |
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| aspiers | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/254515/ | 09:26 |
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| aspiers | OK | 09:27 |
| aspiers | #topic OCF RAs and systemd | 09:27 |
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| aspiers | just a very quick update on what beekhof and I have been chatting about privately | 09:27 |
| aspiers | he made some very good points about challenges with OCF RAs wrapping systemd | 09:27 |
| aspiers | one big one is how systemd handles node shutdown | 09:28 |
| aspiers | it will want to stop services which Pacemaker is controlling | 09:28 |
| aspiers | since Pacemaker started them via systemd, but systemd is too stupid to realise that it doesn't "own" those services | 09:28 |
| aspiers | there may be a good solution but I haven't investigated yet | 09:28 |
| aspiers | but currently this is a potential show stopper | 09:29 |
| aspiers | #info aspiers and beekhof have continued discussing the idea of OCF RAs wrapping systemd | 09:29 |
| aspiers | #info beekhof highlighted some issues which are not yet solved | 09:29 |
| aspiers | another issue is around timeouts for start/stop | 09:29 |
| beekhof | you can create the same override files that pacemaker does | 09:30 |
| beekhof | its not pretty, but it should work | 09:30 |
| aspiers | which files are those? | 09:30 |
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| beekhof | look in systemd_unit_exec_with_unit() | 09:31 |
| bogdando | just a note, we should describe this in the future sepc | 09:31 |
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| bogdando | spec | 09:31 |
| beekhof | everything you want to do can be made to work, i just have doubts that it should :) | 09:31 |
| beekhof | its not something RH is likely to go in for, we get monitoring from elsewhere | 09:32 |
| aspiers | beekhof: RH is likely to stop using these OCF RAs altogether, right? | 09:33 |
| aspiers | I mean the ones for active/active OpenStack services | 09:33 |
| aspiers | excluding NovaCompute | 09:33 |
| aspiers | i.e. the "controller" ones | 09:33 |
| beekhof | yes | 09:33 |
| aspiers | OK, thanks for the info | 09:34 |
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| aspiers | BTW who are the main fence-agents maintainers? | 09:34 |
| beekhof | marek | 09:34 |
| beekhof | i can get in there if its the openstack agent though | 09:34 |
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| aspiers | here is systemd_unit_exec_with_unit(): https://github.com/ClusterLabs/pacemaker/blob/master/lib/services/systemd.c#L516 | 09:35 |
| bogdando | systemd wrapped to ocf may be done as configurable | 09:35 |
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| bogdando | with default off | 09:35 |
| bogdando | so all will be happy | 09:35 |
| aspiers | ahah, I see what beekhof means by overrides now | 09:35 |
| beekhof | bogdando: RH is basically planning to kick all those services out of the cluster | 09:35 |
| beekhof | out of their cluster anyway | 09:36 |
| beekhof | others are welcome to keep them in | 09:36 |
| bogdando | openstack stateless services like nova api? | 09:36 |
| beekhof | we'll just hand them off to systemd | 09:36 |
| aspiers | bogdando: yes | 09:36 |
| bogdando | I see | 09:36 |
| aspiers | I guess RH will offer monitoring via nagios or similar | 09:36 |
| beekhof | usually customers have some sort of monitoring system in place - so i'm told | 09:37 |
| aspiers | there are several nice things about monitoring via Pacemaker | 09:37 |
| aspiers | it will attempt recovery much more intelligently than something like nagios | 09:37 |
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| aspiers | actually a lot of monitoring systems won't attempt recovery at all | 09:37 |
| bogdando | yes, and it does distributed coordination way better for sure | 09:38 |
| aspiers | you also get a unified UI to the services | 09:38 |
| bogdando | but stateful services often just don't need this | 09:38 |
| bogdando | but stateless services not always so stateless in openstack ;) | 09:38 |
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| beekhof | i know, you dont have to sell me of all people on the benefits of pacemaker :) | 09:38 |
| aspiers | hehe :) | 09:38 |
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| beekhof | bogdando: bingo | 09:38 |
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| beekhof | but I keep hearing how we're not needed | 09:39 |
| aspiers | beekhof: come back to SUSE ;-) ;-) | 09:39 |
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| * aspiers didn't just say that | 09:39 | |
| aspiers | moving swiftly on | 09:39 |
| beekhof | :) | 09:40 |
| aspiers | since systemctl start/stop is async non-blocking, any OCF RA which wraps it would need to poll for start/stop completion, with a timeout | 09:40 |
| beekhof | not sure lmb would have me | 09:40 |
| aspiers | and then the Pacemaker timeouts need to be configured to match systemd's Exec{Start,Stop}Timeout parameters | 09:40 |
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| aspiers | well, not necessarily match | 09:41 |
| aspiers | but take into account | 09:41 |
| aspiers | this is slightly ugly but shouldn't be a show stopper | 09:41 |
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| beekhof | "be higher than" | 09:41 |
| aspiers | yeah | 09:41 |
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| aspiers | but the action is still on me to write a proposal spec and a PoC implementation | 09:42 |
| aspiers | unfortunately this won't happen for a few weeks at least | 09:42 |
| aspiers | we are coming up to our next major release | 09:42 |
| aspiers | so I have a lot of other stuff to do | 09:42 |
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| aspiers | and additionally I'm taking 2 weeks holiday from Wed ;-) | 09:42 |
| aspiers | #topic next meetings | 09:43 |
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| beekhof | how selfish | 09:43 |
| aspiers | hehe I know, isn't it great ;-) | 09:43 |
| aspiers | so I'll miss the next two meetinigs | 09:43 |
| beekhof | ack | 09:43 |
| aspiers | any volunteers to chair in my absence? | 09:43 |
| beekhof | i appear to be too unreliable :) | 09:43 |
| aspiers | haha fair enough | 09:43 |
| ddeja | aspiers: I can do it | 09:43 |
| aspiers | ddeja: great thanks! | 09:43 |
| aspiers | #action ddeja will chair the next two meetings | 09:43 |
| aspiers | #info aspiers will be away from Wed 27th for 2 weeks | 09:44 |
| beekhof | about my earlier question... it was mostly serious. how far are we from picking a winner? | 09:44 |
| beekhof | also, will anyone else be in austin? | 09:44 |
| aspiers | #topic relative merits of different compute HA approaches | 09:44 |
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| aspiers | beekhof: I think we're still quite a way away | 09:44 |
| aspiers | I'm personally very interested in the mistral approach | 09:44 |
| aspiers | but I think masakari has some nice stuff too | 09:45 |
| aspiers | so I'm interested to see that working with Pacemaker remote | 09:45 |
| aspiers | ideally for me those two would converge | 09:45 |
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| bogdando | my vote is for mistral approach. This would bring more love and care to the project as well | 09:46 |
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| aspiers | yeah, I think ultiimately mistral+congress makes the most sense | 09:46 |
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| bogdando | and perhaps new bugs will stop looking like poor orphants | 09:46 |
| aspiers | seems clear to me that each cloud will want to handle compute HA using different policies | 09:46 |
| aspiers | and Congress driving Mistral is a really nice way to do that | 09:46 |
| ddeja | so it seems that I need to speed up my work ;) | 09:47 |
| aspiers | hehe | 09:47 |
| aspiers | I would LOVE to help with that work | 09:47 |
| aspiers | hopefully after our next release | 09:48 |
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| aspiers | #topic Austin | 09:49 |
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| aspiers | I am going, who else? | 09:49 |
| beekhof | me | 09:49 |
| aspiers | oh no^H^H^H^Hcool ;-) | 09:49 |
| beekhof | :) | 09:49 |
| ddeja | _gryf will be there, for me it's still a mistery ;) | 09:49 |
| aspiers | haha | 09:49 |
| aspiers | ddeja: I will cross my fingers for you | 09:50 |
| aspiers | well ... I said I am going, but travel budget not approved yet | 09:50 |
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| ddeja | from my side there is same issue - we do not have budget approved for summits | 09:50 |
| aspiers | I was planning to submit a "State of the Nation" talk summarising the various compute node HA approaches in the wild, as captured in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/automatic-evacuation | 09:51 |
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| aspiers | obviously I would include a section on the Mistral approach | 09:51 |
| aspiers | ddeja: perhaps you or _gryf would like to join me to cover that section? | 09:51 |
| bogdando | will we have few minutes for open discussion? | 09:51 |
| aspiers | bogdando: sure | 09:51 |
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| ddeja | aspiers: If I join you, my company will *have* to send me there ;) | 09:52 |
| aspiers | ddeja: exactly ;-) | 09:52 |
| ddeja | so I would like to join you on this | 09:53 |
| aspiers | beekhof: you're the best heckler I know, so you would need to be in the audience asking awkward questions ;-) | 09:53 |
| beekhof | ok | 09:53 |
| aspiers | I also asked Florian if he's interested to co-present this talk | 09:54 |
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| aspiers | it would help keep it vendor-neutral, also he is well known and trusted in the OpenStack HA world | 09:54 |
| aspiers | I'll see what he says | 09:54 |
| aspiers | ok only 5 mins left | 09:54 |
| aspiers | #topic open discussion | 09:54 |
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| bogdando | I'm just wondering if fault resilience of Openstack services is in the scope of the HA project as well? If so, there are som much interesting things to put on the radar... for future R&D perhaps | 09:54 |
| aspiers | bogdando: your turn :) | 09:54 |
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| aspiers | bogdando: sure - we're not really an official project yet anyway | 09:55 |
| aspiers | there is no team defined in the governance repo | 09:55 |
| bogdando | so I'd like we to do some RTFM | 09:55 |
| aspiers | so not Big Tent yet | 09:55 |
| bogdando | http://conferences2.sigcomm.org/co-next/2015/img/papers/conext15-final156.pdf | 09:55 |
| bogdando | https://kabru.eecs.umich.edu/papers/publications/2013/socc2013_ju.pdf | 09:55 |
| aspiers | currently fault tolerance seems more the scope of specialist vendors | 09:55 |
| beekhof | back | 09:55 |
| bogdando | found in the google scholar | 09:55 |
| * beekhof re-reads | 09:55 | |
| aspiers | but I guess it will become commoditized over time | 09:56 |
| beekhof | aspiers: i can probably talk about RH if that helps | 09:56 |
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| bogdando | the latter one describes very interesting approach for tracing flows in OpenStack and injecting failures to test resiliency | 09:56 |
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| bogdando | should be really adopted as a framework in OpenStack community | 09:56 |
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| bogdando | so, that was my 2 cents | 09:57 |
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| aspiers | cool | 09:57 |
| aspiers | if you find anything interesting in your research, please continue to keep us updated :) | 09:58 |
| aspiers | it can certainly be a topic at future meetings | 09:58 |
| beekhof | i'll be around friday morning htis time too | 09:58 |
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| aspiers | #info bogdando interested in fault resilience and has started doing some research | 09:58 |
| aspiers | alright, I guess it's time to end | 09:58 |
| aspiers | thanks a lot all, don't enjoy the next two meetings without me too much, and I'll see you in 3 weeks! | 09:59 |
| ddeja | bye :) | 09:59 |
| aspiers | bye :) | 09:59 |
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| aspiers | #endmeeting | 10:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jan 25 10:00:31 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 10:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ha/2016/ha.2016-01-25-09.05.html | 10:00 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ha/2016/ha.2016-01-25-09.05.txt | 10:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ha/2016/ha.2016-01-25-09.05.log.html | 10:00 |
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| boris-42 | #startmeeting Rally | 14:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jan 25 14:01:09 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is boris-42. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'rally' | 14:01 |
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| andreykurilin | hi hi | 14:01 |
| ikhudoshyn | o/ | 14:01 |
| andreykurilin | \o | 14:01 |
| redixin | sup | 14:01 |
| boris-42 | hi hi | 14:01 |
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| andreykurilin | do we have agenda for meeting today? :) | 14:02 |
| yfried_ | bogdando: hi | 14:02 |
| bogdando | yfried_, hi | 14:02 |
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| boris-42 | bogdando: hi | 14:03 |
| boris-42 | yfried_: hi hi | 14:03 |
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| boris-42 | #topic missing agenda | 14:04 |
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| boris-42 | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Rally | 14:04 |
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| boris-42 | Okay seems like we don't have agenda for today | 14:04 |
| boris-42 | #topic Broken gates and pain * | 14:04 |
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| boris-42 | Okay I just would like to say that whole previous week we were fighting to make everything work back | 14:05 |
| boris-42 | results are next | 14:05 |
| boris-42 | 1) We refactored rally verify command tempest installation part (so we don't use tempests/tools which is going to be removed and actually doens't work well) | 14:06 |
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| boris-42 | 2) We upgrade pip to the version <8 in rally instal script | 14:07 |
| boris-42 | as well amaretsky improved our dsvm-cli job to show how long different tests takes | 14:07 |
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| boris-42 | so overall we didn't do much | 14:07 |
| boris-42 | #topic free discussion | 14:08 |
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| boris-42 | yfried_: bogdando redixin andreykurilin ikhudoshyn andreykurilin does anybody have something to share? | 14:08 |
| redixin | yep | 14:08 |
| redixin | I made a patch WIP | 14:08 |
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| redixin | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/272101/ | 14:08 |
| redixin | Is just a helper class for heat client | 14:09 |
| redixin | boris-42: I have a doubt where this file should be | 14:09 |
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| boris-42 | redixin: please do not add any more wrappers=( | 14:09 |
| boris-42 | redixin: wrappers are really bad approach | 14:10 |
| boris-42 | redixin: each line that we are adding to wrappers/* module should be replaced in future | 14:10 |
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| boris-42 | redixin: we really need to finish spec | 14:10 |
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| boris-42 | redixin: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/172831/ | 14:11 |
| boris-42 | redixin: and at least implement new functionality in new way | 14:12 |
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| redixin | boris-42: so what can I do? | 14:13 |
| boris-42 | redixin: why do you need that helper at all? | 14:13 |
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| boris-42 | redixin: and yes you can review a bit code and specs of others >< | 14:13 |
| boris-42 | redixin: http://stackalytics.com/report/contribution/rally/30 7 review / 30 days is not serious =( | 14:14 |
| redixin | I need this helper to avoid code duplication | 14:14 |
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| boris-42 | redixin: so we need to work together with yfried_ to finish that spec | 14:14 |
| boris-42 | redixin: after that we will implement your code in new style | 14:14 |
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| boris-42 | redixin: this is what we need to do | 14:14 |
| redixin | so I cant continue before this spec is done? | 14:15 |
| redixin | or should I remove that class and just copy-paste code? | 14:15 |
| yfried_ | redixin: boris-42: have you seen shade? | 14:15 |
| yfried_ | redixin: it does a lot of what the wrappers do | 14:16 |
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| redixin | yfried_: hever heard | 14:16 |
| boris-42 | yfried_: repo? | 14:16 |
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| yfried_ | boris-42: http://docs.openstack.org/infra/shade/ | 14:17 |
| boris-42 | yfried_: ah that one | 14:17 |
| boris-42 | yfried_: no we won't use that one | 14:17 |
| boris-42 | yfried_: it's just hardcoded bunch of commonly used methods | 14:17 |
| redixin | boris-42: yfried_: btw it is not actually wrapper. is just helper class which remember the state and allows to update stack in one line of code | 14:17 |
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| boris-42 | yfried_: it won't work for us | 14:17 |
| boris-42 | redixin: we need to finish that spec first | 14:17 |
| boris-42 | redixin: that spec is all about how to deal with the situation that you faced | 14:18 |
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| boris-42 | redixin: so please help with reviews of that proposal | 14:19 |
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| boris-42 | redixin: and let's finish it asap | 14:20 |
| redixin | boris-42: so, in few words, where should be such helper classes? | 14:20 |
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| boris-42 | redixin: did you read spec? | 14:20 |
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| redixin | no | 14:21 |
| redixin | I can see only 300 lines of samples and ascii trees | 14:21 |
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| boris-42 | redixin: there is code as well there and description | 14:23 |
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| boris-42 | redixin: so please take a look at spec and put your commens in all unclear place | 14:25 |
| boris-42 | redixin: I will find some time today to re-review it | 14:25 |
| boris-42 | ikhudoshyn: andreykurilin ^ please take a look as well | 14:25 |
| andreykurilin | sure | 14:25 |
| ikhudoshyn | will do | 14:25 |
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| ikhudoshyn | if we're done with the topic I'd like to discuss some other things | 14:27 |
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| boris-42 | redixin: so do you have something else to discuss? | 14:28 |
| boris-42 | redixin: how work on workload framework is going? | 14:29 |
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| redixin | boris-42: almost done | 14:29 |
| redixin | boris-42: but wait. what do you mean "workload framework"? | 14:30 |
| redixin | boris-42: it is not actually framework, it is just scenario | 14:30 |
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| boris-42 | redixin: ya but it should allow to run different stuff | 14:30 |
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| boris-42 | redixin: so it's some kind of framewrok for doing different kinds of workloads | 14:31 |
| redixin | yes, this scenario can run anything | 14:31 |
| boris-42 | redixin: btw why you don't propose a patch? | 14:31 |
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| redixin | because almost done != done | 14:32 |
| redixin | heat helper class is first part of it | 14:32 |
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| boris-42 | redixin: so then we have a blocker that spec | 14:34 |
| redixin | boris-42: also I cant finish this patch because of spec "Refactoring scenario utils@ is not finished yet | 14:34 |
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| boris-42 | redixin: so where you use that code? and why you can't for now reuse the scenario/heat/utils? | 14:35 |
| redixin | because I need to save the state of stack to update it later | 14:35 |
| redixin | scenario/heat/utils cant help with this | 14:36 |
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| boris-42 | redixin: but as far as I know scenario heat utils will return stack instance | 14:37 |
| boris-42 | redixin: so you can operate with stack instance on upper level | 14:37 |
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| boris-42 | redixin: https://github.com/openstack/rally/blob/master/rally/plugins/openstack/scenarios/heat/utils.py#L155 | 14:38 |
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| boris-42 | redixin: really not sure why you need wrapper | 14:39 |
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| boris-42 | redixin: are you around? | 14:40 |
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| redixin | yes | 14:41 |
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| boris-42 | redixin: so ? | 14:41 |
| boris-42 | redixin: if you need some time to think let's dicuss this after the meeting in rally chat | 14:41 |
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| redixin | I made this helper method to simplify things | 14:42 |
| redixin | thats why people are making helpers | 14:42 |
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| boris-42 | redixin: we will move this to rally chat | 14:44 |
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| boris-42 | ikhudoshyn: okay what you have to discuss | 14:44 |
| ikhudoshyn | at last.. | 14:44 |
| ikhudoshyn | i got some | 14:44 |
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| ikhudoshyn | 1. our rally-ci has issues, it just does not start at least for my patch | 14:44 |
| ikhudoshyn | i'd like to ask redixin to help | 14:45 |
| boris-42 | ikhudoshyn: you mean it doesn't test propsed patches? | 14:45 |
| ikhudoshyn | redixin, could u pls either look yourself or tell me wehrer to look at | 14:45 |
| ikhudoshyn | boris-42, yes | 14:45 |
| boris-42 | ikhudoshyn: is it related to all jobs in rally-ci? or just newly added? | 14:45 |
| ikhudoshyn | i only tried my own patch -- I submitted new patchset and it didn't start | 14:46 |
| ikhudoshyn | i asked 'rally-ci recheck' ant it wont start anyway | 14:46 |
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| ikhudoshyn | redixin ? | 14:47 |
| redixin | ikhudoshyn: it should work now | 14:47 |
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| ikhudoshyn | redixin, tnx | 14:47 |
| ikhudoshyn | so the next one... | 14:48 |
| ikhudoshyn | it's db migration patch | 14:48 |
| boris-42 | ikhudoshyn: ok | 14:48 |
| ikhudoshyn | boris-42, u suggested to add 'rally-manage db list_revisions' | 14:48 |
| boris-42 | ikhudoshyn: yep | 14:48 |
| ikhudoshyn | i think 'rally-manage db history' would be better | 14:48 |
| ikhudoshyn | so we keep single-word commands | 14:49 |
| ikhudoshyn | and it is aligned with alembic | 14:49 |
| ikhudoshyn | And.. I'd like to add it in separate patch | 14:49 |
| ikhudoshyn | So that I could finish README now and submit it | 14:50 |
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| ikhudoshyn | boris-42, ? | 14:50 |
| boris-42 | ikhudoshyn: okay | 14:51 |
| boris-42 | ikhudoshyn: I am ok with history | 14:51 |
| ikhudoshyn | good | 14:51 |
| boris-42 | ikhudoshyn: btw we can add a special variable in migrations | 14:51 |
| boris-42 | ikhudoshyn: tag | 14:51 |
| boris-42 | ikhudoshyn: that will point to current tag | 14:52 |
| ikhudoshyn | boris-42, dont follow u | 14:52 |
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| boris-42 | ikhudoshyn: you should display table | 14:52 |
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| boris-42 | ikhudoshyn: revision_uuid | tag_when_it_was_added | 14:52 |
| ikhudoshyn | u mean git tag? | 14:53 |
| boris-42 | ikhudoshyn: yes current release tag | 14:53 |
| boris-42 | ikhudoshyn: othewise it hisotry of revisions will be useless for end users | 14:54 |
| ikhudoshyn | hm let discuss it separately. Cos currently history is built by alembic from existing migration script files | 14:54 |
| boris-42 | ikhudoshyn: we can just do this later | 14:54 |
| ikhudoshyn | ok | 14:54 |
| boris-42 | ikhudoshyn: not in first patch | 14:54 |
| boris-42 | okay antyhing else to discuss? | 14:54 |
| boris-42 | seems like we are running out of time | 14:55 |
| ikhudoshyn | what about history itself? | 14:55 |
| ikhudoshyn | now or in separate patch? | 14:55 |
| boris-42 | ikhudoshyn: separated patch | 14:55 |
| ikhudoshyn | ok and the last from me | 14:55 |
| ikhudoshyn | this boot_runcommand_delete test | 14:55 |
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| boris-42 | ikhudoshyn: so what is with it? | 14:55 |
| ikhudoshyn | there seems to be a race with LOG | 14:55 |
| boris-42 | ikhudoshyn: could you fix it? | 14:56 |
| ikhudoshyn | I guess I have too | 14:56 |
| ikhudoshyn | cos it really pissed me off | 14:56 |
| ikhudoshyn | it's just.. if anybody have an idea -- ur welcome | 14:56 |
| ikhudoshyn | EOM | 14:56 |
| boris-42 | ikhudoshyn: ok I don't face it | 14:56 |
| boris-42 | okay anybody else? | 14:57 |
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| boris-42 | okay we have to end meeting see you next week | 14:57 |
| boris-42 | #endmeeting | 14:57 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jan 25 14:57:45 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rally/2016/rally.2016-01-25-14.01.html | 14:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rally/2016/rally.2016-01-25-14.01.txt | 14:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rally/2016/rally.2016-01-25-14.01.log.html | 14:57 |
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| mmedvede | #startmeeting third-party | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jan 25 15:00:09 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mmedvede. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: third-party)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'third_party' | 15:00 |
| mmedvede | hi third-party CI folks. Anyone here for the meeting? | 15:00 |
| lennyb | hi | 15:00 |
| cbader | hi | 15:00 |
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| Swanson | Hello | 15:00 |
| asselin__ | good morning | 15:00 |
| mmedvede | I am sitting in today for anteaya | 15:00 |
| mmedvede | hi all, good morning | 15:01 |
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| mmedvede | I have no announcements to make. Anyone has a topic they would like to discuss? | 15:02 |
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| Swanson | Not sure what is normally done at these meetings. | 15:02 |
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| cbader | this is my first meeting so don't know either | 15:03 |
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| mmedvede | Swanson: normally we answer questions that anyone who is running third-party CI has, and helping with problems they have | 15:03 |
| mmedvede | cbader: ^ | 15:03 |
| asselin__ | usually people bring up issues they have or recently solved | 15:03 |
| Swanson | I've been having trouble getting jenkins to log into newly created nodes. I can use the keys and whatnot by hand to log in but jenkins can't seem to do this. | 15:04 |
| Swanson | Anyone seen that? | 15:04 |
| asselin__ | cbader, looks like your issue right? ^^ | 15:04 |
| cbader | You might want to try to add the private key instead of pointing it to the file | 15:04 |
| lennyb | I saw something similar, re adding nodes to Jenkins solved it, I think | 15:04 |
| cbader | yes I have not figured out why it doesn't use the file yet. | 15:05 |
| mmedvede | I also use key directly, not pointing to file | 15:05 |
| lennyb | we are using user/psw in our env | 15:05 |
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| cbader | I am still having a issue with zuul not connecting to gerrit. it is complaining about credentials but I have verified the private/public key and user. | 15:06 |
| Swanson | Do you have that happening automagically on the node creation? Cause once the node is recreated I have to go back in and do it again. | 15:06 |
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| cbader | Are you going to Jenkins>Manage Credentials> Private Key (Enter directly) that was the only thing the worked for me. | 15:07 |
| lennyb | cbader: trivial question: is this gerrit account enabled? | 15:08 |
| mmedvede | cbader: did you try start zuul in debug mode? 'su zuul; zuul-server -d'? | 15:08 |
| asselin__ | all: there's an etherpad now to try to track issues and experiences: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/thirdpartyci | 15:08 |
| asselin__ | #link 3rd party ci - setup etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/thirdpartyci | 15:08 |
| Swanson | cbader, If I did that it worked. When that node is blown up overnight I then have to do it again with the new node. | 15:09 |
| asselin__ | link is also saved here under "reference links" https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ThirdParty#Reference_links | 15:09 |
| asselin__ | thats the 3rd party ci wiki homepage ^^ | 15:09 |
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| asselin__ | Swanson, so you did that and it only works when you manually register a jenkins slave with a jenkins amster? | 15:10 |
| cbader | I will look for my issue there thanks | 15:10 |
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| Swanson | asselin__, Mostly. Sometimes adding a key into jenkins doesn't work either. | 15:11 |
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| Swanson | asselin__, but I haven't looked into what was up with that too closely. | 15:12 |
| asselin__ | Swanson, just note that puppet probably removes the key and restores the link to the private key filename... | 15:13 |
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| asselin__ | Swanson, http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci/tree/templates/be.certipost.hudson.plugin.SCPRepositoryPublisher.xml.erb#n10 | 15:13 |
| asselin__ | actually....that's for scp.... | 15:13 |
| Swanson | asselin__, And certainly when the node is replaced what I did for the previous node is irrelevant | 15:14 |
| Swanson | VPN she be a harsh mistress today. | 15:14 |
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| asselin__ | Swanson, so you have secured jenkins? | 15:15 |
| mmedvede | Swanson: and your nodes, nodepool does update them daily? | 15:15 |
| Swanson | asselin__, I have not secured jenkins. Wide open. Should I? | 15:17 |
| Swanson | mmedvede, nodepool updates them daily. | 15:17 |
| asselin__ | Swanson, no...it should be optional.... | 15:17 |
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| mmedvede | anything else on this topic? | 15:20 |
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| Swanson | I'll add this to the thirdpartyci document once it chooses to load. | 15:21 |
| Swanson | I think it had already been listed. | 15:21 |
| cbader | So looks like pip 8.0.2 is out are people using it did it fix the issues from last week? | 15:21 |
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| mmedvede | cbader: can you refresh us on the issues from last week? | 15:23 |
| mmedvede | We have not seen any troubles in our CI | 15:24 |
| cbader | there were issues with argparse was causing issues with modules not being able to load because it pip couldn't read what the requirements were needed. | 15:24 |
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| cbader | I was creating a new Common-CI and ran into this issues so pinned mine to 7.1.2 to continue. | 15:26 |
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| lennyb | cbader: what version were you using before? | 15:26 |
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| cbader | lennyb, It was a new install so I got what it pulled. Which was 8.0.0 so with what was being talked about I backed up to the last working version 7.1.2 and my issue went away. | 15:28 |
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| Swanson | In this meeting lull I would just like to throw out there my apologies to the world for my rouge ci spamming last week. At least I caught it quickly. | 15:31 |
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| mmedvede | Swanson: I am interested to hear what caused it. That is my biggest fear :) | 15:33 |
| Swanson | I screwed up and swapped out my small list of jenkins jobs for what I assume is the gigantic list of Infras jenkins jobs. | 15:34 |
| Swanson | "I don't remember this file being this big... Sure am getting a lot of email..." | 15:35 |
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| mmedvede | haha, that would do it | 15:36 |
| mmedvede | I guess you caught it fast, because I did not see any email on -dev or -infra lists about it | 15:37 |
| mmedvede | Swanson: thank you for sharing | 15:38 |
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| Swanson | mmedvede, I happy to serve as a warning to others. | 15:38 |
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| asselin__ | Swanson, sorry...I didn't catch what was the root cause | 15:39 |
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| Swanson | asselin__, Updating some of my local project config files I managed to overwrite some files I didn't want to overwrite. (jenkins jobs for one) So be careful and double check your commits before starting up your cI. | 15:40 |
| asselin__ | Swanson, which files exactly? | 15:41 |
| Swanson | asselin__, projects.yaml, I believe. | 15:42 |
| asselin__ | hmmm....I don't know why any change to that would cause out of control comments.... | 15:43 |
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| mmedvede | Swanson: oh, I assumed it was zuul config | 15:43 |
| asselin__ | Swanson, do you have tox in your project-config repo? | 15:43 |
| mmedvede | not sure how changes just to jenkins config would make your CI spam | 15:43 |
| Swanson | asselin__, I overwrote it with infra's. | 15:43 |
| mmedvede | Swanson: do you use zuul, or jenkins gerrit plugin? | 15:44 |
| Swanson | I'm sorry. I also overwrote zuul's layout.yaml | 15:44 |
| Swanson | I did both. I caught jobs and then got nailed by zuul. Same reason for both. | 15:45 |
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| Swanson | Updating elements and scripts and whatnot I ended up updating everything. | 15:46 |
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| asselin__ | ok I see...you were re-syncing your project config nodepool files with upstreams project-config and copied more files than you intended | 15:47 |
| Swanson | asselin__, That would be it exactly and with the clarity I should have provided in the first place. | 15:47 |
| asselin__ | ok :) | 15:48 |
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| asselin__ | so perhaps a warning would be helpful? | 15:48 |
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| Swanson | It wouldn't hurt. The thing is when you're doing things fast and irritated things like this happen. A reminder that you could be yelled at by anteaya (sp?) wouldn't hurt. | 15:50 |
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| mmedvede | fair warning on zuul config might be good | 15:53 |
| mmedvede | anything else? | 15:53 |
| mmedvede | let's get a few minutes back then | 15:55 |
| mmedvede | good discussion today, thank you everyone | 15:55 |
| Swanson | Thanks | 15:55 |
| cbader | thanks | 15:55 |
| mmedvede | #endmeeting | 15:55 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "other things (summary/wrap-up (Meeting topic: swift)" | 15:55 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jan 25 15:55:44 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:55 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2016/third_party.2016-01-25-15.00.html | 15:55 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2016/third_party.2016-01-25-15.00.txt | 15:55 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2016/third_party.2016-01-25-15.00.log.html | 15:55 |
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| mmedvede | that is strange that the topic got set back to the one from the other meeting... | 15:57 |
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| dzimine | Hi all, | 16:00 |
| rakhmerov | #startmeeting Mistral | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jan 25 16:00:21 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rakhmerov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Mistral)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'mistral' | 16:00 |
| rakhmerov | hi Dmitri | 16:00 |
| rakhmerov | how are you? | 16:00 |
| dzimine | Ok now :) hi | 16:00 |
| ddeja | hello | 16:00 |
| dmowrer- | hi | 16:00 |
| dzimine | Half asleep :) | 16:00 |
| akuznetsova | hi there | 16:01 |
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| hparekh_ | hi | 16:01 |
| rakhmerov | hi all | 16:01 |
| rakhmerov | let's start | 16:01 |
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| rakhmerov | #topic Review Action Items | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review Action Items (Meeting topic: Mistral)" | 16:02 | |
| rakhmerov | 1. rakhmerov, hparekh_: discuss https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral/+spec/mistral-items-filtering | 16:02 |
| rakhmerov | done | 16:02 |
| rakhmerov | there's already a patch on review | 16:03 |
| hparekh_ | yeah | 16:03 |
| rakhmerov | :) | 16:03 |
| hparekh_ | please let me know your view | 16:03 |
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| rakhmerov | #action rakhmerov: review patch about items filtering | 16:03 |
| rakhmerov | :) | 16:03 |
| rakhmerov | 2. rakhmerov: participate in [TripleO] Driving workflows with Mistral | 16:03 |
| hparekh_ | thanks | 16:03 |
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| rakhmerov | I was participating in this thread but it is still alive so I need to continue | 16:04 |
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| rakhmerov | #topic Current status (progress, issues, roadblocks, further plans) | 16:04 |
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| rakhmerov | my status: I was actually off work for 1.5 weeks | 16:04 |
| rakhmerov | last week I made several reviews, that's it | 16:05 |
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| akuznetsova | my status: reviewed patches, planning to start thinking about tests for murano-dashboard repo | 16:05 |
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| hparekh_ | my status: I have fixed some gate issue, fixed some tests which were failed periodically. submmited patch for items filtering. | 16:06 |
| rakhmerov | akuznetsova: murano? :) | 16:06 |
| m4dcoder | status: bug fixes, multiple patches stuck in review | 16:06 |
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| akuznetsova | rakhmerov, mistral) | 16:06 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:06 |
| akuznetsova | ohh | 16:06 |
| akuznetsova | sorry | 16:06 |
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| akuznetsova | work on multiple projects has an effect | 16:07 |
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| rakhmerov | m4dcoder: yeah, sorry about that. It's such a period for us. Nikolay is on vacation, I've been on sick leave for a long time | 16:07 |
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| rakhmerov | akuznetsova: understandable | 16:07 |
| rakhmerov | np | 16:07 |
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| ^Gal^ | I uploaded a patchset for Horizon, regarding the tooltip thing we need | 16:08 |
| ^Gal^ | for cell to access another cell | 16:08 |
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| ^Gal^ | and I have some stuff for reivew | 16:09 |
| rakhmerov | ^Gal^: ok | 16:09 |
| m4dcoder | rakhmerov: are you feeling better? when is Nikolay back? i hope things get back to normal. the projects seems to move at a rather slow pace of late. | 16:09 |
| rakhmerov | ^Gal^: I saw messages from lane_kong that some patches to dashboard don't have some necessary info required by release tools | 16:10 |
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| rakhmerov | something like "Merged XXX" where XXX should be a patch id or something | 16:10 |
| rakhmerov | I didn't understand it on 100% | 16:10 |
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| rakhmerov | ^Gal^: are you aware of this? Did you talk to lane_kong? | 16:10 |
| rakhmerov | m4dcoder: yes, thanks! I'm now almost ok, will be working full time since the middle of this week | 16:11 |
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| rakhmerov | m4dcoder: Nikolay will be back in a week | 16:11 |
| m4dcoder | good good :) | 16:11 |
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| rakhmerov | ^Gal^: here? | 16:12 |
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| rakhmerov | ^Gal^: ok, let me know once you're back or we can talk offline | 16:13 |
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| rakhmerov | we were actually supposed to release M-2 last week (on Jan 21st) but I didn't have a chance to talk to Lingxian yet | 16:14 |
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| rakhmerov | who is our release liason now | 16:14 |
| rakhmerov | #action rakhmerov: check how M-2 release go | 16:15 |
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| rakhmerov | we also need to have a planning session for M-3 asap so I'd like to ask you to come up with your preferences | 16:15 |
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| rakhmerov | #topic Mistral Security | 16:16 |
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| rakhmerov | anybody from ALU is here now? | 16:17 |
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| rakhmerov | a little bit of background: we now still have a big issue with using sensitive information in Mistral workflows | 16:17 |
| rakhmerov | the issue is: we can't hardcode any passwords in workflows themselves and we can't pass them as input params | 16:18 |
| rakhmerov | because Mistral stores them unencrypted in DB and puts into logs | 16:18 |
| rakhmerov | so it is not protected | 16:18 |
| rakhmerov | for example, it is related to ssh actions | 16:19 |
| rakhmerov | from user perspective, it's also not feasible to have required ssh keys on executors | 16:19 |
| rakhmerov | they have to be pre-configured | 16:20 |
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| rakhmerov | we had a couple of attempts to address this problem but it's still not solved properly | 16:20 |
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| rakhmerov | Moshe suggests we implement actions for using Barbican | 16:20 |
| rakhmerov | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral/+spec/support-barbican-actions | 16:20 |
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| redrobot | rakhmerov is there a spec I could review for that? | 16:21 |
| akuznetsova | we have only bug for it https://bugs.launchpad.net/mistral/+bug/1337268 | 16:21 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1337268 in Mistral mitaka "Security issue: user secure info is not protected properly (logs, API, DB)" [Critical,New] - Assigned to Lingxian Kong (kong) | 16:22 |
| rakhmerov | yes | 16:22 |
| rakhmerov | redrobot: no spec yet | 16:22 |
| akuznetsova | we need to transform it to bp first | 16:22 |
| rakhmerov | yes | 16:22 |
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| rakhmerov | so we need to create a spec I guess, this is correct | 16:22 |
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| m4dcoder | i'm unsure how this actually works. the action will return the secret and it still needs to be pass to the other action that needs it as input param. | 16:23 |
| akuznetsova | we already have a few suggestion of how it can be implemented (in bug's comments) | 16:23 |
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| akuznetsova | rakhmerov, yes, we need spec, but afaik spec require link to bp | 16:23 |
| rakhmerov | m4dcoder: yes, I don't know either | 16:23 |
| rakhmerov | akuznetsova: true, I agree | 16:24 |
| rakhmerov | #action rakhmerov: convert https://bugs.launchpad.net/mistral/+bug/1337268 into BP | 16:24 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1337268 in Mistral mitaka "Security issue: user secure info is not protected properly (logs, API, DB)" [Critical,New] - Assigned to Lingxian Kong (kong) | 16:24 |
| dzimine | We can consider borrowing the solution from StackStorm | 16:24 |
| dzimine | Where we mark secret parameters and mask them in API and logs. | 16:25 |
| rakhmerov | dzimine: could you describe briefly the essense of it? | 16:25 |
| rakhmerov | dzimine: makes sense | 16:25 |
| rakhmerov | I suggested long time ago that we should use a special data type | 16:25 |
| rakhmerov | and make all our layers explicitly aware of it | 16:26 |
| m4dcoder | this requires mistral to define a type of schema for action inputs. to be consistent and not just for input with secret. | 16:26 |
| dzimine | DB is ok, at most encode the secret but it's admin duty to protect it. | 16:26 |
| rakhmerov | so that if we print into log, for example, we replace it with ***** | 16:26 |
| rakhmerov | when we store it in DB we apply encryption | 16:26 |
| dzimine | I'll fish out a PR with impl and share it in the BP | 16:26 |
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| rakhmerov | dzimine: yes | 16:26 |
| rakhmerov | dzimine: that would be great | 16:27 |
| dzimine | Ok. | 16:27 |
| rakhmerov | as far as the API I thought it could be something like: when we pass input parameters we have a simple mechanism to explicitly mark it somehow | 16:28 |
| rakhmerov | so that from that point on all layers take care of them as of sensitive data | 16:28 |
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| rakhmerov | but ok, I'm eager to see your idea | 16:28 |
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| rakhmerov | #action dzimine: File a BP wit description of how we can approach the issue with security data | 16:30 |
| rakhmerov | so let's continue with this | 16:30 |
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| rakhmerov | ALU folks also want to backport it to Liberty once it's implemented | 16:31 |
| rakhmerov | we need to see if it's possible | 16:31 |
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| rakhmerov | #topic Open Discussion | 16:31 |
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| rakhmerov | so other than that I don't have topics to discuss for now | 16:32 |
| hparekh_ | rakhmerov: hi i have sent you mail regarding Austin summit did you check it ? | 16:32 |
| rakhmerov | dzimine: please let me know if there's anything specific from StackStorm side for M-3 | 16:32 |
| rakhmerov | hparekh_: replied to you today | 16:32 |
| rakhmerov | yes | 16:32 |
| hparekh_ | oh will check | 16:33 |
| rakhmerov | hparekh_: I'd ask you to share your plan, if possible | 16:33 |
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| m4dcoder | for M3, i'm still fighting for time to spec the task priority scheduler | 16:33 |
| rakhmerov | as far as my participation: I would like to be there but it's not confirmed yet | 16:33 |
| rakhmerov | I might not be there | 16:33 |
| hparekh_ | rakhmerov:yeah sure I will share | 16:34 |
| rakhmerov | m4dcoder: did you have a chance to discuss that with ALU? | 16:34 |
| rakhmerov | they had a strong opinion on that topic | 16:34 |
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| m4dcoder | not directly. i just plan to have the spec and then discuss. it won't impact them if they don't want to change. | 16:35 |
| rakhmerov | they were against it | 16:35 |
| rakhmerov | but yes, I guess as long as it's configurable it won't harm them | 16:35 |
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| m4dcoder | my proposal is to have a plugin for how it is scheduled. they can use the plugin that uses the same algorithm. | 16:35 |
| rakhmerov | m4dcoder: yeah, makes sense | 16:36 |
| rakhmerov | m4dcoder: plugin arch is clear to me, I'm rather thinking how this algo would work at all | 16:37 |
| rakhmerov | I don't see a clear picture now | 16:37 |
| m4dcoder | i'll try to paint it clearly in the spec | 16:37 |
| rakhmerov | the issue is that we use MQ and I'm not sure how we can implement this kind of scheduling on top of it | 16:37 |
| rakhmerov | m4dcoder: ok, then I'll be waiting for a spec | 16:37 |
| m4dcoder | cool | 16:38 |
| rakhmerov | when do you think you'd be able to draft it? | 16:38 |
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| m4dcoder | i hope soon. i'm fighting for time to do this. | 16:38 |
| rakhmerov | ok ) | 16:39 |
| rakhmerov | understood | 16:39 |
| rakhmerov | alright | 16:39 |
| rakhmerov | anything else to discuss? | 16:40 |
| rakhmerov | as usually, I'll count to 10 and end the meeting | 16:40 |
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| akuznetsova | bye | 16:40 |
| m4dcoder | bye. thx! | 16:41 |
| rakhmerov | ok, thanks for joining! Bye everyone | 16:41 |
| rakhmerov | #endmeeting | 16:41 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jan 25 16:41:11 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:41 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2016/mistral.2016-01-25-16.00.html | 16:41 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2016/mistral.2016-01-25-16.00.txt | 16:41 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2016/mistral.2016-01-25-16.00.log.html | 16:41 |
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| matjazp | hello | 17:02 |
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| ianychoi | Hello! | 17:02 |
| matjazp | hey ianychoi | 17:02 |
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| ianychoi | Hi, matjazp ! | 17:02 |
| matjazp | #startmeeting training-guides | 17:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jan 25 17:03:20 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is matjazp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: training-guides)" | 17:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'training_guides' | 17:03 |
| matjazp | roll call | 17:03 |
| matjazp | ianychoi you still here? | 17:04 |
| ianychoi | yep i am here | 17:04 |
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| matjazp | anyone else here for the Training guides meeting? | 17:05 |
| matjazp | standard meeting agenda | 17:05 |
| matjazp | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/training-guides-meeting-agenda | 17:05 |
| ianychoi | Not yet.. landing page is on draft/training-guides | 17:05 |
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| matjazp | yes, lets start with upstream | 17:05 |
| matjazp | #topic upstream training | 17:06 |
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| matjazp | #info Preparations for Upstream training in Austin are underway | 17:06 |
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| ianychoi | Yep.. Tim will lead Austin upstream training? | 17:06 |
| matjazp | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/271006/ | 17:06 |
| matjazp | well he didn't reply on my mail, but I guess so? | 17:07 |
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| matjazp | timfreund you around? | 17:07 |
| ianychoi | Hmm.. not here, might be.. | 17:08 |
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| matjazp | well maybe ML will do | 17:08 |
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| timfreund | hi all, sorry I'm late. | 17:09 |
| matjazp | but I'm glad that the work has started | 17:09 |
| matjazp | hey timfreund | 17:09 |
| matjazp | right on time | 17:09 |
| matjazp | we were just discussing austin upstream training | 17:09 |
| ianychoi | Hello, timfreund :) | 17:09 |
| timfreund | I've talked a bit with Mike about it, and I have an email I need to get to. Sounds like it'll still be on, but perhaps shortened to one day. | 17:10 |
| matjazp | timfreund: just technical stull, without lego exercise? | 17:11 |
| matjazp | stull=stuff | 17:11 |
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| timfreund | Not sure yet, although I suspect the Lego will still be put to use. The foundation is interested in making these mentorship opportunities continuous, so it sounds like there may be an interest in using the summit events to "train the trainer" and help this work carry on throughout the year. | 17:12 |
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| matjazp | timfreund: yes, ian is organizing an upstream meeting in Seul in Feb | 17:13 |
| ianychoi | in South Korea :) | 17:13 |
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| matjazp | timfreund: and if I understood correctly, Marton Kiss is planning one in July in Hungary | 17:13 |
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| timfreund | excellent, lots of activity then! | 17:14 |
| matjazp | and of course, we have 3 full tranlsations (en, ko_kr, de) and almost done jp translation | 17:15 |
| matjazp | we should document these (with pics) in the separate page | 17:16 |
| matjazp | Maybe we can expand the landing page to include all planned uspteaam trainings? | 17:16 |
| ianychoi | If upstream training in Austin will be shortened to one day, it would be only Sunday (April 24) I think, and then, someone might need to update on docs.openstack.org/upstream-training, since currently it says two days (both Saturday and Sunday). | 17:16 |
| matjazp | what do you guys think? | 17:16 |
| ianychoi | +1 | 17:16 |
| timfreund | that would be good. | 17:17 |
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| timfreund | I'll get back with Mike to make sure I have the times right and then update the schedule. | 17:17 |
| matjazp | #info upstream training landing page should also include info about other planned trainings | 17:17 |
| matjazp | timfreund: can you also look at the attendance list? | 17:17 |
| matjazp | timfreund: for tokyo, so we have all that helped in there | 17:18 |
| matjazp | for archive purposes | 17:18 |
| timfreund | Yes, I can do that. | 17:18 |
| ianychoi | Yep.. Kato says https://wiki.openstack.org/w/index.php?title=OpenStack_Upstream_Training&oldid=94038 information is incomplete. | 17:18 |
| matjazp | oh, and if you have any feedback, please just submit bugs or patches | 17:18 |
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| ianychoi | And since I participated in Tokyo upstream training as a student, I remember that https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/upstream-training-tokyo has more mentor list.. | 17:19 |
| ianychoi | Please let us know Tokyo mentor list, or patches would be also nice I think. | 17:20 |
| matjazp | maybe we can just cleanup these past meetings (in a separate page) and ask on the dev and docs ML if anyone is missing | 17:20 |
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| matjazp | #action timfreund updates past attendance list | 17:23 |
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| matjazp | timfreund: you need any help? | 17:24 |
| ianychoi | Thanks so much, timfreund! I hope 1st Korean upstream training will go well.. I am thinking and organizing based on what you did on last Tokyo upstream training :) | 17:24 |
| timfreund | I will reach out on the ML if I need any help. Thank you! | 17:24 |
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| matjazp | anything else here? | 17:25 |
| ianychoi | No from me | 17:26 |
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| timfreund | nothing from me either. | 17:26 |
| matjazp | ok moving on | 17:26 |
| matjazp | #topic training-guides | 17:27 |
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| matjazp | ian made a new landing page based on the usptream one | 17:27 |
| matjazp | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/269204/ | 17:27 |
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| ianychoi | #link http://docs.openstack.org/draft/training-guides/ | 17:28 |
| matjazp | yes, thank you | 17:28 |
| matjazp | was just browsing for link | 17:28 |
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| matjazp | beat me to it :) | 17:28 |
| ianychoi | :) | 17:28 |
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| ianychoi | So, the next step would be to add module modules and quizzes.. | 17:29 |
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| ianychoi | s/module/more/ | 17:29 |
| matjazp | yes, https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Training-guides#Training_slides_-_Modules | 17:29 |
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| ianychoi | Okay.. let's see.. then, before adding more modules, we need to add a bug or a blueprint. | 17:31 |
| matjazp | slides for modules first, quizzes can wait | 17:31 |
| matjazp | ianychoi: there are already bugs for this | 17:31 |
| ianychoi | matjazp, thanks. Then, https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-training-guides/+bug/1493087 | 17:32 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1493087 in OpenStack Training Guides "[Training guides] Add slides: OpenStack getting started" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 17:32 |
| ianychoi | it would a good start point I think. | 17:32 |
| matjazp | true | 17:33 |
| ianychoi | I have seen https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142259/ , as matjazp's suggestion. I think it has lots of sentences.. | 17:33 |
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| matjazp | yes, much to long for slide format | 17:33 |
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| ianychoi | It might take some time for me to change into slide formats, but I would like to start it if other guys agree with it. | 17:33 |
| matjazp | we can also (re)use some content from usptream training | 17:33 |
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| matjazp | sure, but don't get to constrained with this | 17:35 |
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| matjazp | it also don't have to be all in the same module | 17:36 |
| matjazp | I would actually prefer small(er) modules | 17:36 |
| ianychoi | Yep :) I think you and other training-guides guys would help on gerrit review | 17:36 |
| ianychoi | Got it. | 17:36 |
| matjazp | later this could enable us to make training indexes for shorter and longer trainings | 17:37 |
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| ianychoi | Okay.. like upstream training modules | 17:39 |
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| matjazp | oh, and you don't have to mark WIP in the commit title, just use normal title and set WIP flag (-1 in workflow) | 17:39 |
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| ianychoi | Aha.. I see. Thanks, matjazp ! | 17:40 |
| ianychoi | Hmm.. if there is nothing more, then I think I might leave now. | 17:41 |
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| matjazp | sure, thanks for you time | 17:42 |
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| matjazp | lets wrap it for tonight | 17:42 |
| ianychoi | I am a little bit tired today, sorry and thank you:) | 17:42 |
| matjazp | no problem ian, see you and take care | 17:42 |
| matjazp | bye | 17:42 |
| ianychoi | bye! :) | 17:43 |
| matjazp | #endmeeting | 17:43 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jan 25 17:43:47 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:43 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2016/training_guides.2016-01-25-17.03.html | 17:43 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2016/training_guides.2016-01-25-17.03.txt | 17:43 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2016/training_guides.2016-01-25-17.03.log.html | 17:43 |
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| adam_g | #startmeeting astara | 18:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jan 25 18:03:35 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is adam_g. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:03 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'astara' | 18:03 |
| adam_g | o/ | 18:03 |
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| adam_g | ping markmcclain elo rods ryanpetrello etc | 18:05 |
| markmcclain | o/ | 18:05 |
| rods | o/ | 18:05 |
| ryanpetrello | \o/ | 18:06 |
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| adam_g | hey all | 18:07 |
| adam_g | #topic mitaka development | 18:07 |
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| adam_g | we were scheduled to cut tags last week but the typical release-week gate madness delayed a lot of stuff landing | 18:07 |
| adam_g | so ill hopefully be cutting those this afternoon | 18:07 |
| adam_g | i personally haven't made much progress on the HA blueprint over the last week because of other things, does anyone have anything else to report on that front? | 18:09 |
| adam_g | ryanpetrello, are you still interested in fixing up the ceilometer support or should we un-assign it? | 18:09 |
| ryanpetrello | I'd say unassign it | 18:09 |
| ryanpetrello | we haven't placed much priority on ceilometer on our end for now | 18:09 |
| ryanpetrello | so I haven't had time to dig into it | 18:09 |
| adam_g | ryanpetrello, ok, thanks for the update | 18:10 |
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| adam_g | #topic bugs | 18:11 |
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| adam_g | #link https://launchpad.net/astara/+milestone/mitaka-2 | 18:12 |
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| adam_g | we managed to get quite a few of those fixed last week | 18:13 |
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| elo | nothing on my end | 18:13 |
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| adam_g | rods, any new developments on https://bugs.launchpad.net/astara/+bug/1531274 or should i bumpt it to M-3? | 18:14 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1531274 in Astara "unable to delete tenant networks" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Rosario Di Somma (mr-rods) | 18:14 |
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| rods | adam_g I'd say bump it to M-3 | 18:15 |
| adam_g | the entire stack of patches for https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1524068 are still not merged so ill be bumping that one | 18:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1524068 in Astara "get_local_service_ip conflicts across multiple astara nodes" [Critical,In progress] | 18:15 |
| adam_g | k | 18:16 |
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| adam_g | that leaves 3 unresolved bugs for M2 at https://launchpad.net/astara/+milestone/mitaka-2 | 18:17 |
| adam_g | theyve all got patches on gerrit (one needs a rebase, will do later) and some have had their +2's lost in rebases, do we wanna see if we can get those merged this morning before i cut tags? | 18:17 |
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| markmcclain | yeah... I think we can get them in | 18:18 |
| adam_g | ok ill rebase the conflicting one as soon as we're done here | 18:18 |
| adam_g | #topic open discussion | 18:18 |
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| adam_g | so one thing to bring up is we merged https://review.openstack.org/#/c/219952/ and replaced the old functional test suite with a new one | 18:19 |
| adam_g | it does a bit more and should be more reliable | 18:19 |
| adam_g | but if anyone sees gate jobs failing for non-patch related issues please let me know | 18:19 |
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| adam_g | anything else ? | 18:21 |
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| rods | not from me | 18:23 |
| adam_g | ok well lets get back to it and see about getting mitaka-2 out today. thanks all | 18:23 |
| adam_g | #endmeeting | 18:23 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jan 25 18:23:42 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:23 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/astara/2016/astara.2016-01-25-18.03.html | 18:23 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/astara/2016/astara.2016-01-25-18.03.txt | 18:23 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/astara/2016/astara.2016-01-25-18.03.log.html | 18:23 |
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| haleyb | hi | 21:00 |
| pc_m | hi | 21:00 |
| hichihara | hi | 21:00 |
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| njohnston | o/ | 21:00 |
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| annp | Hi | 21:00 |
| tidwellr | hi | 21:00 |
| mhickey | Hey | 21:00 |
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| haleyb | regXboi: i see an endmeeting, but we'll find out... | 21:00 |
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| HenryG | Let's try | 21:01 |
| amotoki | hi | 21:01 |
| HenryG | #startmeeting networking | 21:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jan 25 21:01:15 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is HenryG. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:01 |
| mestery | hi! | 21:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:01 |
| manjeets1 | hi | 21:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking' | 21:01 |
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| njohnston | \o/ | 21:01 |
| ZZelle__ | Hello everyone | 21:01 |
| HenryG | #chair mestery | 21:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: HenryG mestery | 21:01 |
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| * mestery straps into the shotgun seat of HenryG's meeting | 21:01 | |
| HenryG | armax is traveling, so I will run the meeting and mestery will help | 21:01 |
| Sam-I-Am | did you bring a shotgun? | 21:01 |
| carl_baldwin | o/ | 21:02 |
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| ihrachys | o/ | 21:02 |
| mhickey | o/ | 21:02 |
| HenryG | Some objections were voiced about the change to Mondays only for this meeting. | 21:02 |
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| HenryG | But there has been no response to this invitation: | 21:02 |
| HenryG | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-January/084556.html | 21:02 |
| HenryG | Please read that email (and thread) and respond on the ML or in gerrit. | 21:02 |
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| HenryG | #topic Announcements | 21:03 |
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| ihrachys | HenryG: I hoped someone else will raise his hand. I can step forward if no one else is ready for that... | 21:03 |
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| rossella_s | go for it ihrachys | 21:03 |
| ihrachys | ok, will send a patch tomorrow. | 21:03 |
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| HenryG | sounds good ihrachys | 21:04 |
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| HenryG | First announcement ... | 21:04 |
| kevinbenton | #midcycle #midcycle #midcycle #midcycle! | 21:04 |
| HenryG | Miktaka Milestone 2 has been released | 21:04 |
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| HenryG | #link https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/mitaka-2 | 21:04 |
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| HenryG | Second announcement ... | 21:04 |
| HenryG | The Nova mid-cycle sprint is in progress | 21:04 |
| HenryG | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-nova-midcycle | 21:04 |
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| HenryG | Third announcement ... | 21:05 |
| HenryG | The Neutron mitaka mid-cycle sprint will be on Feb 23-26 in Rochester, MN, USA | 21:05 |
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| HenryG | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-mitaka-midcycle | 21:05 |
| HenryG | (brrrr) | 21:05 |
| mhickey | HenryG: ice fishing all the way! :) | 21:05 |
| HenryG | salv-orlando: armax wanted me to get to the backlog | 21:06 |
| HenryG | Any other announcements? | 21:06 |
| ihrachys | one preliminary here | 21:06 |
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| ihrachys | we will probably have a code sprint for "objectification" some time in mid-March somewhere in Europe | 21:07 |
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| ihrachys | stay tuned for more updates on the ML | 21:07 |
| HenryG | thanks ihrachys | 21:07 |
| salv-orlando | ihrachys: what would objectification be? The stuff you did for QoS applied to everything? | 21:07 |
| ihrachys | salv-orlando: that's the end goal, but we'll be tactic and do only half of everything ;) | 21:08 |
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| ihrachys | we are currently looking into some core resources in context of upgrades subteam (port, network) | 21:08 |
| salv-orlando | ihrachys: that would still be a rich goal | 21:08 |
| ihrachys | we'll see what we will get to | 21:08 |
| HenryG | Let's move on to bugs | 21:09 |
| HenryG | #topic Bugs | 21:09 |
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| HenryG | ZZelle__: Anything to report from bugs last week? | 21:09 |
| ZZelle__ | HenryG, 1 critical bug | 21:10 |
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| ZZelle__ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1537746 about to be solved | 21:10 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1537746 in neutron "l3_db should not assume dns-integration" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Russell Bryant (russellb) | 21:10 |
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| ZZelle__ | a potentially critical bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1536540 (i wait for ajo feedback before setting this importance to critical if it's confirmed) | 21:11 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1536540 in neutron "AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'port_name' when deleting an instance with QoS policy attached" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Miguel Angel Ajo (mangelajo) | 21:11 |
| amuller | ZZelle__: even if QoS is broken entirely it is not a 'critical' bug | 21:12 |
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| amuller | t's not a core feature | 21:12 |
| ZZelle__ | amuller, oups, ok | 21:12 |
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| ihrachys | + to amuller | 21:12 |
| amuller | (even though it's the best feature anyone could possibly ever imagine and looking at its code is like being hugged by a thousand unicorns) | 21:13 |
| ZZelle__ | huhum | 21:13 |
| * njohnston spits out his soda | 21:13 | |
| HenryG | thanks ZZelle__ | 21:13 |
| ihrachys | also does not look like actual behavioral issue. more like a nasty traceback in lots. | 21:13 |
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| ihrachys | *in logs | 21:14 |
| HenryG | I noticed a rise in the jobs failure rates over the weekend, but I think that was a blip due to the pip 8.0.0 release. The failure rates seem to be dropping back to "normal". | 21:14 |
| HenryG | This week mlavalle is the bug deputy. | 21:15 |
| mlavalle | HenryG: Yes I am | 21:15 |
| HenryG | Any volunteers for next week? | 21:15 |
| HenryG | OK, after the meeting I'll have to guilt someone into volunteering :) | 21:16 |
| njohnston | I will volunteer, though I am a little green for it. | 21:16 |
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| HenryG | njohnston: great! and no problem, you have a ton of people to pester for help | 21:17 |
| ihrachys | yay to volunteer! | 21:17 |
| HenryG | njohnston: see the meeting wiki for the table of past deputies: | 21:17 |
| HenryG | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings | 21:17 |
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| kevinbenton | just mark them all as opinion and then change the project to nova. that should throw a week of confusion onto it so you wont have to deal with it :) | 21:17 |
| njohnston | HenryG: Thanks! | 21:18 |
| Sam-I-Am | kevinbenton: hahah | 21:18 |
| njohnston | kevinbenton: That's a hanging offense in Texas | 21:18 |
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| HenryG | Let | 21:18 |
| HenryG | oops | 21:18 |
| salv-orlando | kevinbenton: if armax ever needs what you just wrote, you're dead. | 21:18 |
| salv-orlando | You know that, don't you | 21:19 |
| kevinbenton | he'll have to find me first. i'm hiding in the desert | 21:19 |
| HenryG | Let's move on to the backlog for M | 21:19 |
| HenryG | #topic Blueprints | 21:19 |
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| HenryG | #link https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/mitaka-3 | 21:20 |
| HenryG | First, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/tenant-delete | 21:20 |
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| kevinbenton | related question, is it okay if an HTTP DELETE request returns a body? | 21:21 |
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| kevinbenton | i was thinking it would be nice if this thing returned a list of all of the things it deleted | 21:21 |
| ZZelle__ | kevinbenton, nope | 21:21 |
| kevinbenton | ok | 21:22 |
| HenryG | Looks like that BP is out of M? | 21:22 |
| HenryG | Most likely, I mean. | 21:23 |
| hichihara | HenryG: +1 | 21:23 |
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| ihrachys | looks like it. well, it's common for High prio BPs to fall thru cracks, ain't it? | 21:24 |
| HenryG | Still more discussions needed to agree on how and where to orchestrate, I guess. | 21:24 |
| salv-orlando | kevinbenton: you should check the api-wg guidelines and if no answer there RFC 7231. But if I'm not mistaken it's a no | 21:25 |
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| ZZelle__ | kevinbenton, after checking HTTP RFC allows response bodies in DELETE | 21:25 |
| HenryG | next | 21:25 |
| HenryG | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/multi-l3-backends | 21:25 |
| HenryG | kevinbenton ? | 21:25 |
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| kevinbenton | in progress. should have some PoC code and a spec pushed up at the end of this week | 21:26 |
| kevinbenton | still figuring out the least invasive way to do it | 21:26 |
| HenryG | sounds good | 21:26 |
| HenryG | next | 21:26 |
| HenryG | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/push-notifications | 21:27 |
| HenryG | kevinbenton: also you | 21:27 |
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| kevinbenton | still in spec review | 21:27 |
| kevinbenton | will need a volunteer core reviewer to be my approver also | 21:27 |
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| ihrachys | kevinbenton: would be glad, though there is no agreement for what I see | 21:28 |
| kevinbenton | ihrachys: yes :( | 21:28 |
| ihrachys | I assume it's not Mitaka deliverable | 21:28 |
| HenryG | chances of making M = slim? | 21:28 |
| kevinbenton | yeah, partial at best | 21:28 |
| kevinbenton | i assume it will need a proof of concept | 21:29 |
| kevinbenton | so we can at least fix the race condition in QoS with it | 21:29 |
| kevinbenton | and then worry about more objects next cycle | 21:29 |
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| ihrachys | and it gives us some time to proceed with objectification first ;) | 21:29 |
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| HenryG | thanks kevinbenton and ihrachys | 21:29 |
| HenryG | next | 21:29 |
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| HenryG | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/get-me-a-network | 21:30 |
| HenryG | That's me, and armax and jaypipes | 21:30 |
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| ihrachys | chances?.. | 21:30 |
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| HenryG | Some good feedback has been given on the patch, which I updated | 21:30 |
| HenryG | It is being discussed and sprinted at the nova mid-cycle this week | 21:31 |
| HenryG | We hope nova will pick up the orchestration/policy bits on their side | 21:31 |
| HenryG | I have no idea of the feasibility of nova getting that done for M | 21:32 |
| HenryG | We'll hear a report next week | 21:32 |
| ihrachys | sounds promising nevertheless | 21:32 |
| HenryG | The neutron work will proceed full steam for now | 21:33 |
| HenryG | next | 21:33 |
| HenryG | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/external-dns-resolution | 21:33 |
| mlavalle | hi | 21:33 |
| HenryG | mlavalle: hi | 21:34 |
| mlavalle | code merged last week: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/212213/ | 21:34 |
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| HenryG | mlavalle: is anything left? (sorry, have not followed the BP) | 21:34 |
| mlavalle | armax indicated in the blueprint that operator docs are needed. So I have already coordinated with Sam-I-Am as to what needs to be done | 21:35 |
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| mlavalle | I'll update the networking guide over the next few days | 21:35 |
| mlavalle | that's it | 21:35 |
| HenryG | mlavalle: great! and thanks as always to superdoc Sam-I-Am | 21:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | woot | 21:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | if you document it, they will come | 21:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | this is a thing a lot of people have been asking about | 21:36 |
| HenryG | too true | 21:36 |
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| HenryG | next | 21:36 |
| HenryG | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/l2-api-extensions | 21:36 |
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| ihrachys | that one is mine. the spec in review: https://review.openstack.org/263819 (armax requested some clarifications, respinned, beleive it's ready) | 21:37 |
| ihrachys | and David pushed a patch for review: https://review.openstack.org/267591 | 21:37 |
| ihrachys | that one may require some respins, I need to get back to it. | 21:37 |
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| ihrachys | but overall, should easily land in M | 21:37 |
| HenryG | nice, thanks ihrachys | 21:38 |
| HenryG | next | 21:38 |
| HenryG | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/modular-l2-agent | 21:38 |
| ihrachys | ok, I am approver there. | 21:38 |
| ihrachys | Andreas landed some preparation patches. | 21:38 |
| ihrachys | there is also the main patch up for review: https://review.openstack.org/246318 | 21:39 |
| ihrachys | I think it should be almost ready for landing | 21:39 |
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| ihrachys | then there will be another patch that just moves code in another file | 21:39 |
| ihrachys | and that should be it | 21:39 |
| ihrachys | so will also land in M | 21:39 |
| HenryG | good stuff, thanks ihrachys and Andreas | 21:40 |
| HenryG | next | 21:40 |
| HenryG | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/neutron-lib | 21:40 |
| HenryG | dougwig | 21:40 |
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| kevinbenton | i think he's afk | 21:40 |
| HenryG | I can report | 21:40 |
| HenryG | Patches are landing | 21:41 |
| HenryG | But it is a long-term ongoing effort that can be adopted gradually | 21:41 |
| ihrachys | will we have first release in M? | 21:41 |
| ihrachys | I mean, consumed by neutron | 21:42 |
| HenryG | You can start now, it is on PyPI | 21:42 |
| ihrachys | but is it in g-r? | 21:42 |
| HenryG | I believe so | 21:42 |
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| ihrachys | https://github.com/openstack/requirements/blob/master/global-requirements.txt#L88 | 21:43 |
| HenryG | thanks :) | 21:43 |
| HenryG | So knock yourselves out :/ | 21:44 |
| HenryG | It has some constants you can use :) | 21:44 |
| HenryG | next | 21:45 |
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| HenryG | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/dhcp-options-per-subnet | 21:45 |
| HenryG | Looks like this is being re-thought | 21:46 |
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| HenryG | I'll talk to the owners later, since they are not online | 21:46 |
| pc_m | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/268232/ for neutron-lib | 21:46 |
| amotoki | yeah I think so. | 21:46 |
| amotoki | i will follow up. | 21:46 |
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| HenryG | sorry amotoki, I expected you to be asleep :) | 21:46 |
| HenryG | thanks amotoki | 21:47 |
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| -amotoki- is trying to get up early.. | 21:47 | |
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| HenryG | next | 21:47 |
| HenryG | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/keystone-v3 | 21:47 |
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| HenryG | I am the approver | 21:48 |
| HenryG | The spec is being reviewed | 21:48 |
| HenryG | The spec has the projected deliverables with timelines | 21:48 |
| HenryG | The spec: https://review.openstack.org/257362 | 21:49 |
| HenryG | next | 21:49 |
| amotoki | doesn't migration to keystoneauth help us? I think most of the work has been done actaully. | 21:49 |
| amotoki | it seems it is trying more than that. let's move to the next one. | 21:50 |
| HenryG | amotoki: Let's follow up with Dariusz on that | 21:51 |
| HenryG | next | 21:51 |
| amotoki | HenryG: ok | 21:51 |
| HenryG | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/performance-counters | 21:51 |
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| HenryG | Hi regXboi | 21:52 |
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| regXboi | this is not likely to make M - what PoC code is there is the low level agent side and transport - still need to work out the tables and storage | 21:52 |
| regXboi | and then passing up to the northbound consumer | 21:53 |
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| regXboi | that's all I've got | 21:54 |
| HenryG | regXboi: thanks, that's fine as long as no one is expecting otherwise | 21:54 |
| regXboi | HenryG: if folks are expecting otherwise, they haven't dropped me the hint | 21:54 |
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| HenryG | we'll make sure it's noted in the BP | 21:55 |
| HenryG | next | 21:55 |
| HenryG | actually I'm gonna stop there for today | 21:56 |
| HenryG | #topic Open Discussion | 21:56 |
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| HenryG | 5 minutes | 21:56 |
| Sam-I-Am | i had something... | 21:56 |
| Sam-I-Am | or is it more important to hit the docs stuff? | 21:56 |
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| Sam-I-Am | HenryG: ? | 21:57 |
| HenryG | Sam-I-Am: we skipped the docs today to churn through the BP backlog | 21:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | ok | 21:57 |
| HenryG | but you can bring it up now if you want | 21:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | quick stuff - the networking guide is now versioned | 21:57 |
| HenryG | nice! | 21:58 |
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| Sam-I-Am | so we don't need to worry about 'in version X, you can do... in version Y, you can do..." | 21:58 |
| amotoki | "versioned" means it has stable branches. | 21:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | yes | 21:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | we tried making it CD, but it didnt work out well | 21:58 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i'm working on updates for liberty (yeah, i'm behind) | 21:58 |
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| Sam-I-Am | most of them apply to mitaka too, which is aoog | 21:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | good | 21:58 |
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| Sam-I-Am | always looking for more contributions. i can help you figure out where stuff goes. | 21:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | the other open discussion topic - please read the 'mtu' discussion on the -dev mailing list if you haven't | 21:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | its pretty enlightening | 21:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | i'll be posting my results with OVS soon | 21:59 |
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| HenryG | Sam-I-Am: thanks | 22:00 |
| Sam-I-Am | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-January/084241.html | 22:00 |
| Sam-I-Am | lets solve this once and for all | 22:00 |
| HenryG | If there is nothing else, then ... | 22:00 |
| ihrachys | Sam-I-Am: hopefully the thread will get to some actionable items | 22:00 |
| Sam-I-Am | hope so | 22:00 |
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| HenryG | #endmeeting | 22:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jan 25 22:01:02 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2016/networking.2016-01-25-21.01.html | 22:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2016/networking.2016-01-25-21.01.txt | 22:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2016/networking.2016-01-25-21.01.log.html | 22:01 |
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| hichihara | bye | 22:01 |
| mhickey | bye | 22:01 |
| hoangcx | bye | 22:01 |
| HenryG | Thanks everyone! | 22:01 |
| Sam-I-Am | seeya! | 22:01 |
| mlavalle | HenryG: thanks for chairing meeting today | 22:01 |
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| mhickey | thanks HenryG | 22:01 |
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| amotoki | thanks HenryG | 22:01 |
| Sam-I-Am | thanks HenryG | 22:01 |
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| ihrachys | HenryG rocks | 22:01 |
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