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| thinrichs | Hi all | 00:01 |
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| pballand | hi | 00:01 |
| thinrichs | time for the Congress meeting | 00:01 |
| thinrichs | #startmeeting CongressTeamMeeting | 00:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 21 00:01:12 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is thinrichs. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 00:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 00:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'congressteammeeting' | 00:01 |
| masahito_ | hi | 00:01 |
| ramineni | hi | 00:01 |
| thinrichs | Here's my topic list this week… | 00:01 |
| thinrichs | 1. mitaka2 | 00:02 |
| fabiog | hi | 00:02 |
| thinrichs | 2. distributed arch | 00:02 |
| thinrichs | 3. midcycle summit | 00:02 |
| thinrichs | 4. push datasource driver | 00:02 |
| thinrichs | 5. other status updates | 00:02 |
| thinrichs | Anything else? | 00:02 |
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| thinrichs | Let's get started then. If something else comes to mind, let us know. | 00:03 |
| thinrichs | #topic mitaka2 | 00:03 |
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| thinrichs | I just released mitaka2 earlier today | 00:03 |
| thinrichs | So we're now working on the mitaka3 release. | 00:03 |
| thinrichs | I went through and moved all the blueprints that I know we're actively working on to mitaka3 | 00:04 |
| thinrichs | If I missed any, please target them to mitaka3 so we have a sense of the code we expect to land. | 00:05 |
| thinrichs | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/congress | 00:05 |
| thinrichs | Any questions or comments about mitaka? | 00:05 |
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| thinrichs | Moving on then... | 00:07 |
| thinrichs | #topic distributed arch | 00:07 |
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| thinrichs | pballand: I saw you pushed some comments/code earlier today but haven't had a chance to look. | 00:07 |
| thinrichs | How's it going? | 00:07 |
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| pballand | slow but steady | 00:07 |
| pballand | I was hoping ekao would be here | 00:07 |
| ekcs | I’m here. | 00:08 |
| pballand | ekcs: hi :-) | 00:08 |
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| pballand | ekcs is looking at the datasource interface to add to DataService, I’ll let him talk about that proposal - I’m working through comments | 00:08 |
| pballand | general theme is that it is weird to have so many topics - which I agree | 00:09 |
| pballand | unfortunately oslo.messaging logs exceptions if it receives an RPC for an endpoint that it doesn’t have, *even* if the RPC has a different namespace or version | 00:09 |
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| thinrichs | I had a question. Not sure if you answered it in the comments. | 00:10 |
| pballand | if anyone has a different suggestion than using separate topics, I’m open (we can also discuss next week) - otherwise I am continuing on the current path since it is functional | 00:10 |
| thinrichs | What is the control bus used for? | 00:10 |
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| pballand | the control bus is used for service discovery and status | 00:11 |
| pballand | for example, if I am a policy or api service, I may want to know what services and tables exist - those are tracked by the control bus | 00:11 |
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| pballand | form the dist-cross-process-dse spec: “ A common directory of data services and their exported tables must be | 00:12 |
| pballand | published to all services on the DSE.” | 00:12 |
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| pballand | does that answer your question? | 00:13 |
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| thinrichs | Not quite | 00:13 |
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| thinrichs | Do we have code today that asks "give me all the tables" or "give me all the services"? | 00:13 |
| thinrichs | Or will we need to ask that question in the distributed arch? | 00:14 |
| thinrichs | The APIs that list tables make RPCs directly to the service | 00:14 |
| pballand | the API will need that information | 00:14 |
| pballand | the API needs to know what services there are | 00:14 |
| thinrichs | So if we have an API that asks for the list of available datasources, then it will ask the control bus. | 00:15 |
| thinrichs | That makes sense. | 00:15 |
| thinrichs | I think that's a feature we deprecated, so we won't need it for the upcoming release, but we'll want it once we start putting the datasource APIs back in place. | 00:15 |
| pballand | right - we _could_ have the API service broadcast the question on the bus, but it seems better to me to have a common component | 00:16 |
| thinrichs | Does anything else need the bus? I think the policy engine just subscribes to tables and hopes they exist or will exist. | 00:17 |
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| thinrichs | s/bus/control bus/ | 00:17 |
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| thinrichs | So I'm thinking that once we have pub/sub added to the existing rpc, we can do the integration work. | 00:17 |
| thinrichs | Even if the control bus hasn't been merged. | 00:18 |
| thinrichs | Does that sound right to everyone? | 00:18 |
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| masahito_ | I agree for the integration. | 00:19 |
| thinrichs | ekcs: want to go over your proposal? | 00:19 |
| ekcs | ok | 00:20 |
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| ekcs | I have a preliminary implementation of this bp: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack/?searchtext=dist-datasources-on-bus | 00:21 |
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| ekcs | where pub-sub messages are sequenced and reordered etc. at the datasources and policy engines. | 00:21 |
| ekcs | but pballand and I thought it makes more sense to build the functionality straight into the DataService class (replacing current deepsix) | 00:22 |
| ekcs | Any thoughts on that? | 00:22 |
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| thinrichs | That sounds like the right abstraction to me. | 00:23 |
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| thinrichs | Just a sanity check: does oslo-messaging handle any of this? | 00:24 |
| thinrichs | If we just use the existing pub/sub, does it not guarantee in-order delivery? | 00:24 |
| pballand | agreed: should simplify transition from deepsix if we have the exact same interface | 00:24 |
| ekcs | As far as I understand, it depends on the underlying transport. RabbitMQ for example doesn’t guarantee order. | 00:26 |
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| thinrichs | Another question: can we proceed with the integration work using the native pub/sub? | 00:26 |
| thinrichs | And in parallel provide the guarantees we want? | 00:27 |
| pballand | what do you mean by native pub/sub? | 00:27 |
| thinrichs | How often do out-of-order problems happen? | 00:27 |
| thinrichs | pballand: doesn't oslo-messaging have pub/sub functions? | 00:28 |
| pballand | oslo-messaging has a ‘Notifier’, but it doesn’t seem to line up well with the DSE | 00:29 |
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| pballand | other that that, the only pub/sub like function I am aware of is “casting” RPCs | 00:30 |
| thinrichs | So we're still missing pub/sub functionality? | 00:30 |
| pballand | which is what my impl is using | 00:30 |
| fabiog | thinrichs: Notifiers does implement a publisher | 00:31 |
| fabiog | but it is a fire and forget one | 00:31 |
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| fabiog | all the services in OpenStack uses the Notifier to send events | 00:32 |
| masahito_ | pballand: I think client.cast() with funout=False works as a base function of pub/sub. | 00:32 |
| pballand | masahito_: agreed | 00:32 |
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| thinrichs | masahito: how long do you think it would take to build pub/sub on top of client.cast()? | 00:33 |
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| thinrichs | We can always improve the pub/sub implementation, but all of the integration is blocked on having basic pub/sub functionality? | 00:33 |
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| pballand | my proposal (which I believe is inline with what ekcs is proposing) is to add the existing deepsix interface to DataService using the RPC methods exposed by what I have in review | 00:34 |
| thinrichs | How long will that take? | 00:34 |
| masahito_ | thinrichs: I think it takes less than one day. | 00:34 |
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| masahito_ | thinrichs: because pballand have implemented a similar function in dsenode. | 00:35 |
| thinrichs | pballand, ekcs: how long do you think your proposal will take? | 00:35 |
| pballand | I think it’s reasonable to have it before the midcycle next week | 00:35 |
| thinrichs | Is it worth having masahito try to get something in place and then upgrade it to your version once its ready? | 00:35 |
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| pballand | I welcome any help, especially from masahito_ :-) | 00:36 |
| pballand | thinrichs: no reason to have two versions... | 00:36 |
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| thinrichs | pballand: sure, but the plan was to have us all try to do some basic integration work before the cycle. | 00:37 |
| ekcs | thinrichs: at least a week I think. getting everything in deepsix to work on dse2 could have many issues come up. | 00:37 |
| ekcs | i was about to say earlier that it could be an issue to out time line. | 00:37 |
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| thinrichs | We've been blocked on this piece for a long time. | 00:38 |
| thinrichs | I think it's worth the cost of some replicated work to ensure we make progress. | 00:39 |
| pballand | just to make sure we are on the same page: the work is to tie together the deepsix interface (~ 12 methods) on top of the DataService RPC interface | 00:39 |
| pballand | is that right? | 00:39 |
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| thinrichs | pballand: That's always been the basic problem, hasn't it? the DataService RPC interface is incredibly similar to the oslo-messaging interface, right? | 00:40 |
| thinrichs | At the very least, the 3 of you will have the experience necessary to trade war stories next week. | 00:40 |
| ekcs | pballand: I think putting deepsix interfaces into dataservice would take days. and then implementing reliability and message ordering would take days on top of that. | 00:40 |
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| thinrichs | It's time to move on I think. | 00:41 |
| ekcs | maybe we need to talk to masahito_ some more to understand what he’s proposing to do in less than a day. so we understand where we differ and how to proceed. but in either case if it takes less than a day it’s not a great cost. | 00:41 |
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| thinrichs | ekcs: agreed. Would you want to talk/irc with masahito offline? | 00:42 |
| ekcs | thinrichs: yea. pballand can you join too? | 00:42 |
| pballand | yup | 00:42 |
| masahito_ | yap | 00:42 |
| thinrichs | Great! Thanks you 3. | 00:43 |
| thinrichs | #topic midcycle summit | 00:43 |
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| thinrichs | Just a reminder that the midcycle summit is next week. | 00:43 |
| thinrichs | fabiog: any comments here? | 00:43 |
| fabiog | yes | 00:43 |
| thinrichs | Have you heard about the monasca summit? Are we overlapping? | 00:43 |
| fabiog | no | 00:43 |
| fabiog | Monasca is going to be held the following week virtually over webex | 00:44 |
| fabiog | there are a lot of people in EU that won't be able to travel | 00:44 |
| fabiog | for our mid-cycle is everyone confirmed? | 00:44 |
| fabiog | I currently have: thinrichs pballand masahito_ ekcs and me | 00:45 |
| thinrichs | That could be about right. We knew it would be a skeleton crew this year. | 00:45 |
| thinrichs | Someone from solinea was planning to stop by for a day. | 00:45 |
| fabiog | ok for the logistics | 00:45 |
| fabiog | this is the address | 00:45 |
| fabiog | Cisco Systems, Inc. 285 W. Tasman Drive San Jose California 95134 United States | 00:45 |
| fabiog | I was thinking on a 9:30am PDT start | 00:46 |
| thinrichs | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sprints/CongressMitakaSprint | 00:46 |
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| fabiog | we can meet at the lobby and I will escort in | 00:46 |
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| thinrichs | su_zhang: are you planning to attend the mid-cycle summit next week? | 00:46 |
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| thinrichs | fabiog: sounds good | 00:47 |
| fabiog | ok, on Wed evening I was planning to have a group dinner. If Wed is no good for someone we can do it on Tue, is Wed good? | 00:48 |
| thinrichs | Wed works for me. | 00:48 |
| thinrichs | So does Tue | 00:48 |
| fabiog | any type of food/restaurants I should avoid? | 00:49 |
| ekcs | both good for me. | 00:49 |
| masahito_ | both works for me. | 00:49 |
| ijw | fabiog: building D | 00:49 |
| ekcs | actually tue would be much better for me, | 00:49 |
| fabiog | ijw: nope, building I (eye) | 00:49 |
| ijw | Yeah, you should avoid building D, it's full of Cisco ppl | 00:49 |
| ijw | Woudln't want to eat there | 00:50 |
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| fabiog | ijw: no worries we will have catering at our meeting room | 00:50 |
| fabiog | breakfast included | 00:50 |
| thinrichs | pballand: can you make it for dinner Tue/Wed? | 00:50 |
| pballand | sounds great | 00:50 |
| pballand | Tues is better for me too | 00:50 |
| thinrichs | Sounds good. | 00:50 |
| fabiog | Ok, then, I will book for Tue | 00:50 |
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| thinrichs | fabiog: are you still planning on discussing a deeper monasca integration? | 00:51 |
| fabiog | thinrichs: yes. Even if I am completely blocked by the integration of Monasca client in Openstack | 00:51 |
| thinrichs | sounds good | 00:52 |
| thinrichs | We're running short on time. | 00:52 |
| thinrichs | Before I forget we'll cancel next week's IRC since many of us will be at the sprint | 00:52 |
| thinrichs | I'll send an email to the ML. | 00:53 |
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| thinrichs | #topic status updates | 00:53 |
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| thinrichs | masahito: how is your push datasource driver going? | 00:53 |
| thinrichs | ramineni: any status updates to report? | 00:53 |
| thinrichs | (Go ahead and interleave your answers, since we have 7 min left) | 00:53 |
| masahito_ | slow progress this week. | 00:53 |
| thinrichs | If anyone else has status updates/comments/questions, now is the time. | 00:53 |
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| ramineni | thinrichs: nothing much from my side, | 00:54 |
| su_zhang | @thinrichs: yes | 00:55 |
| thinrichs | ekcs: did you get your latest python3 patch sorted? Is there anything we should discuss here? | 00:55 |
| masahito_ | I'm checking OPNFV usecase for push driver. and try to push next patch set before sprint because I guess Monasca want it feature for the integration. | 00:55 |
| su_zhang | @thinrichs: I will be in the meeting | 00:55 |
| thinrichs | fabiog: we have another attendee: su_zhang. I'll check eventbrite and see if anyone else signed up. | 00:55 |
| su_zhang | look forward to seeing you guys there | 00:55 |
| fabiog | thinrichs: ok, great. | 00:56 |
| ekcs | thinrichs: yup. I moved the imports to below the copyright statements. and masahito_ decided his comment wasn’t an issue. | 00:56 |
| masahito_ | s/it feature/the feature/ | 00:56 |
| thinrichs | su_zhang: great! We're looking forward to seeing you again and hearing how Congress is working @Symantec. | 00:56 |
| su_zhang | sounds great! | 00:56 |
| thinrichs | ekcs: sounds good | 00:57 |
| masahito_ | ekcs: oops, I forgot change review status. | 00:57 |
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| thinrichs | masahito_: sounds good. I don't think there's a ton of pressure to have your code merged before the sprint, but another iteration makes sense. | 00:58 |
| thinrichs | masahito_: we'll know how the push driver will end up working and can discuss with fabiog, even if the code isn't in master | 00:58 |
| thinrichs | That seems to do it for this week. | 00:59 |
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| thinrichs | Thanks all! I'm looking forward to the sprint next week! | 00:59 |
| fabiog | safe travels and see you next week | 00:59 |
| ekcs | thanks! | 01:00 |
| thinrichs | #endmeeting | 01:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 21 01:00:04 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 01:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2016/congressteammeeting.2016-01-21-00.01.html | 01:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2016/congressteammeeting.2016-01-21-00.01.txt | 01:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2016/congressteammeeting.2016-01-21-00.01.log.html | 01:00 |
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| Daisy | Hi, we will start i18n meeting here. | 13:00 |
| Daisy | #startmeeting OpenStack I18n Meeting | 13:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 21 13:00:42 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Daisy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: OpenStack I18n Meeting)" | 13:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_i18n_meeting' | 13:00 |
| ujuc | hi | 13:00 |
| eumel8 | hello :) | 13:01 |
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| Daisy | Hi, ujuc, eumel8 | 13:01 |
| Daisy | Who's else ? | 13:01 |
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| Daisy | eumel8: is it your first i18n meeting ? | 13:01 |
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| eumel8 | no | 13:01 |
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| ianychoi_phone | Hi! | 13:01 |
| Daisy | Sorry. Forgive my bad memory. Which team do you from ? | 13:02 |
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| Daisy | Hi, ianychoi_phone | 13:02 |
| eumel8 | german team | 13:02 |
| eumel8 | always :) | 13:02 |
| Daisy | Are you Frank ? | 13:02 |
| eumel8 | yes | 13:02 |
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| Daisy | OK. Got it. Thank you for joining us. Let's start. | 13:02 |
| Daisy | We have a long list to cover today. | 13:03 |
| Daisy | #topic Discussion: Glossary management process | 13:03 |
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| Daisy | The glossary. | 13:03 |
| Daisy | I'm going to use the first solution: saving glossary in po and pot files in Gerrit. | 13:03 |
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| eumel8 | ok | 13:04 |
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| eumel8 | but translation is handled by Zanata? | 13:04 |
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| Daisy | For several reasons: 1. it is simple. 2. Zanata will support glossary editor in the future. I look at their document. It looks good. We may use the glossary editor in Zanata when it is ready. po and pot file format are best format supported by Zanata. | 13:05 |
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| Daisy | eumel8: Yes, we will upload po/pot to Zanata for translation. We just keep a version in our i18n repo. | 13:06 |
| eumel8 | then we do so | 13:06 |
| eumel8 | +1 | 13:06 |
| jftalta | +1 | 13:06 |
| Daisy | Thank you for joining, jftalta . | 13:06 |
| Daisy | ujuc: any concerns ? | 13:06 |
| jftalta | Hello Daisy | 13:06 |
| ujuc | me 2 +1 :) | 13:07 |
| Daisy | thank you, ujuc . | 13:07 |
| ianychoi_phone | +1 | 13:07 |
| Daisy | Thank you team. move next. | 13:07 |
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| Daisy | #topic: Discussion: IBM contributions | 13:07 |
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| eumel8 | mhmm, Doug is not here | 13:08 |
| Daisy | IBM wants to contribute their translations to community again. Doug said it was the last time. :) | 13:08 |
| Daisy | Because they will send translators directly working with us for Mitaka translation, using Zanata. | 13:08 |
| eumel8 | ah, very good | 13:09 |
| Daisy | I look at their package. It is not big this time. | 13:09 |
| Daisy | Nova: 74 strings | 13:09 |
| Daisy | Glance: 52 strings | 13:09 |
| Daisy | Keystone: 22 strings | 13:09 |
| Daisy | Cinder: 620 strings | 13:09 |
| Daisy | Celimeter: 8 strings. | 13:09 |
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| Daisy | Only the number of cinder is a big one. Others are quite small. | 13:10 |
| jftalta | IBM made a good decision :) | 13:10 |
| eumel8 | I'm also a little nervous about the current procedure with IBM but we need any help so we do so. | 13:10 |
| eumel8 | for the last time :) | 13:10 |
| Daisy | eumel8: what do you mean ? | 13:11 |
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| eumel8 | I mean the discussion on the mailing list | 13:11 |
| eumel8 | with the different positions | 13:11 |
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| Daisy | You mean the mail from Akihiro ? | 13:12 |
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| eumel8 | yes | 13:12 |
| Daisy | ok. | 13:12 |
| Daisy | A good point. | 13:13 |
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| amotoki | hi | 13:13 |
| ianychoi_phone | Hello, amotaki! | 13:13 |
| Daisy | Japanese team did a lot of reviews for IBM last contributions in Liberty release. Japanese team want IBM to adopt their comments. | 13:13 |
| Daisy | amotoki: welcome | 13:13 |
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| jftalta | Hello amotoki | 13:14 |
| ujuc | hello | 13:14 |
| Daisy | I spent some time reading their review comments. I think they are very helpful for new comers who want to contribute. | 13:14 |
| Daisy | The pity is that the comments are not able to extract. | 13:14 |
| eumel8 | maybe Doug is able to connect the IBM translators direct to the japanese team | 13:14 |
| Daisy | I have copied them out, and I have forward them to IBM team. | 13:14 |
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| eumel8 | or he can invite the guys to i18n | 13:15 |
| amotoki | thanks Daisy | 13:15 |
| Daisy | I think IBM team should revise their translations before contributing to community. | 13:16 |
| Daisy | I mean, the Japanese translation. | 13:16 |
| Daisy | Not other languages, because there was no review of other languages in Liberty release. | 13:16 |
| eumel8 | are there also contribution from IBM in the installation guide? | 13:16 |
| Daisy | No, only to messagings. | 13:16 |
| eumel8 | ok | 13:17 |
| Daisy | only to messaging. | 13:17 |
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| Daisy | No logs, no web user interfaces. | 13:17 |
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| amotoki | honestly I am okay with either decision on IBM contribution to Japanese for Mitaka. | 13:17 |
| amotoki | I just hope we Japanese team and IBM team share our thought towards Newton release. | 13:18 |
| Daisy | question: since there was no reviews for IBM contributions for Liberty, except Japanese translations. Do you think we need to create branches for IBM contributions or not ? | 13:18 |
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| eumel8 | good question | 13:19 |
| eumel8 | I think yes | 13:19 |
| Daisy | I mean, there was no reviews of other languages for IBM translations last time. Do we need to create branches this time ?( The question is for other language team, not for Japanese team. ). | 13:19 |
| Daisy | frankly speaking, I don't like to create branches. | 13:20 |
| ianychoi_phone | For Korean, I do not have enough time to IVM translations. And we mainly focused install-guide.. I am not sure whether Korean team can review IBM translations, but I am okay to accept IBM translations. I think for Korean team, the focus order would be common-rst -> horizon -> then ibm translations.. | 13:20 |
| ianychoi_phone | -1 I do not like another branches | 13:20 |
| Daisy | Because I don't know how stable Zanata is to support many branches. | 13:20 |
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| amotoki | I don't think we need more branch too (it's not from Japanese team view) | 13:21 |
| ujuc | i -1 . | 13:22 |
| eumel8 | For German. I took a look into Dougs git repo and there is some space for improvement in translation to German :) | 13:22 |
| Daisy | I will not review IBM translations too. I didn't review them before. They are for messaging only. All the messaging translations are provided by IBM, in my mind. Oh. except nova.pot. | 13:22 |
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| amotoki | ujuc: what does -1 mean? no branch? | 13:22 |
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| ujuc | yep no branch | 13:22 |
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| Daisy | eumel8: I will think about if there are any ways for you to review German translations. | 13:23 |
| jftalta_ | Still there... | 13:24 |
| eumel8 | I want it, otherwise I have personaly no time for additional reviews | 13:24 |
| Daisy | ok. how about you, jftalta_ ? | 13:24 |
| Daisy | We are talking about whether to review IBM translations, whether to create branches. | 13:24 |
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| Daisy | oh. | 13:26 |
| jftalta_ | Unfortunately, don't have time to review IBM french translations | 13:26 |
| Daisy | ok. got it. | 13:27 |
| jftalta_ | French team is reorganizing itself presently | 13:28 |
| eumel8 | Daisy: then skip the branching | 13:28 |
| Daisy | Thank you, eumel8 . | 13:28 |
| Daisy | I need a further thinking. Thank you guys for the input. Very helpful. | 13:29 |
| Daisy | Let's move next. | 13:29 |
| Daisy | #topic Status update: Installation guide translation | 13:29 |
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| Daisy | I think we are in good status of installation guide. | 13:29 |
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| Daisy | Thank you ujuc and ianychoi_phone for the Korean translations. | 13:29 |
| Daisy | Great work! | 13:30 |
| ujuc | :) | 13:30 |
| ianychoi_phone | Thank you so much for all i18n guys :) | 13:30 |
| Daisy | We have installation guide in Japanese, Chinese and Korean now. | 13:30 |
| Daisy | There are some bugs report to i18n recently about Chinese translations. | 13:30 |
| jftalta_ | French team has to increase effort. It will. | 13:31 |
| Daisy | Chinese translations have readers now. When they find errors, they will report bugs. I'm fixing them. | 13:31 |
| ianychoi_phone | There might be some Korean bugs.. we will check them. | 13:31 |
| Daisy | jftalta_: I know your team was under reorg. | 13:31 |
| jftalta_ | yes | 13:31 |
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| Daisy | No worries. Mitaka translation will start from March. You will have a lot of work to do. :) | 13:32 |
| jftalta_ | But we still have keen people :) | 13:32 |
| eumel8 | congrats to Japan, China and Korea. great work, indeed! | 13:32 |
| amotoki | Draft index is really useful for translators: http://docs.openstack.org/draft/draft-index.html | 13:32 |
| ianychoi_phone | Thanks, eumel8 ! :) | 13:32 |
| Daisy | Thank you, amotoki . | 13:32 |
| Daisy | next topic | 13:33 |
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| Daisy | #topic Status update: Translation check website | 13:33 |
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| Daisy | It's under progress. | 13:33 |
| eumel8 | we are on 13% but I'm on it | 13:33 |
| Daisy | eumel8: no worries. | 13:33 |
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| Daisy | I'm working on the translation check website. Recently, I studied Puppet to see how to enable the automation jobs, and how to install Zanata client. | 13:34 |
| Daisy | so , still under working. | 13:35 |
| Daisy | move to next | 13:35 |
| Daisy | #topic Status update: Stackalytics feature | 13:35 |
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| jftalta_ | From OpenStack point of view, will it be a devstack machine with master branches deployed on it ? | 13:36 |
| Daisy | Yes, jftalta_ | 13:36 |
| jftalta_ | oh, sorry... | 13:36 |
| Daisy | it's ok. | 13:36 |
| jftalta_ | ok, thanx Daisy | 13:36 |
| Daisy | adiantum: hi, there ? | 13:36 |
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| Daisy | I have a program to pull translator contribution data from Zanata. | 13:36 |
| Daisy | It is running in my machine now. | 13:37 |
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| Daisy | But I don't know how to show the data in stackalytics. | 13:37 |
| amotoki | have you contacted to stackalytics team? | 13:38 |
| Daisy | My plan is, if we are not able to find a people who help to show the data in stackalytics website, we just public the data in excel file. | 13:38 |
| amotoki | I think the number of stats is not a first priority. I think the first priority is who are translators considered as ATC. | 13:39 |
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| jftalta_ | It would be a pity. We need stackalytics. Do you agree ?... | 13:39 |
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| jftalta_ | On the other hand, amotoki is right | 13:40 |
| ianychoi_phone | Yes I agree, or some help from Zanata guys to get statistics for Summit code... | 13:40 |
| amotoki | we usually receive such question. | 13:40 |
| Daisy | The program to pull user contribution data is slow. It will take hours to pull the data. To get a user 's contribution to a version of a project, it will send a query to Zanata. There are a big number of projects and a big number of users. You can image how many time the program need to query Zanata. | 13:40 |
| Daisy | amotoki mentioned a good point. | 13:41 |
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| Daisy | We need the data to decide who can get ATC free pass. | 13:41 |
| Daisy | jftalta_: it's really a pity that we cannot use stackalaytics. | 13:42 |
| amotoki | of course, stackalytics support is great. no doubt! | 13:42 |
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| eumel8 | is the collector program somewhere in git? | 13:42 |
| Daisy | Not yet. eumel8 , I will put it in git when it is proved good. | 13:43 |
| Daisy | According to our decision long time ago, people who translated more than 300 words in 6 month can get a free pass. | 13:43 |
| jftalta_ | yes, I remember this rule | 13:44 |
| -amotoki- knows a hack to earn 300 words in several minutes | 13:44 | |
| Daisy | so that is from 2015.7 to 2016.1 | 13:44 |
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| Daisy | amotoki: what's the hack ? | 13:45 |
| -amotoki- top secret | 13:45 | |
| amotoki | joke :) | 13:45 |
| Daisy | We started to use Zanata since Sep, so, we will use the data from Sep to Jan. | 13:45 |
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| amotoki | when we translate a new string with 50 words using translation memory, we will get 50 words translated / | 13:46 |
| amotoki | even if only 1 word is changed. this is a trick. | 13:46 |
| Daisy | do you mean, 300 is too small for a free pass ? | 13:46 |
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| amotoki | I don't think so. | 13:46 |
| Daisy | ok. :) | 13:46 |
| amotoki | the number of translators itself is small. | 13:47 |
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| Daisy | anyway, I think, if 1 patch can get a free pass, 300 words translation is a equal condition. | 13:47 |
| amotoki | agree. good balance. | 13:47 |
| jftalta_ | yes, its true. And number of good translators still smaller ;) | 13:47 |
| amotoki | :) and :( | 13:48 |
| katomo | +1 | 13:48 |
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| ianychoi_phone | I also agree, 300 words for translators | 13:48 |
| ujuc | +1 | 13:48 |
| Daisy | hehe | 13:48 |
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| Daisy | We are talking about the last topic now. | 13:48 |
| Daisy | #topic ATC status/Free Access Pass | 13:48 |
| eumel8 | a work for 2-4 hours | 13:48 |
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| Daisy | In development team, ATC means a patch in 1 year, and a free pass is 1 patch in recent 6 month. | 13:49 |
| Daisy | I don't know when is the time point to refresh ATC. | 13:50 |
| Daisy | when is time to refresh ATC list. Does anyone know about it ? | 13:50 |
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| eumel8 | I asked Stefano about the the feeling from the Foundation but I got no answer yet | 13:51 |
| jftalta_ | I don't | 13:51 |
| amotoki | IIRC, contributor of the previous cycle will get a free pass for the next summit. | 13:51 |
| amotoki | I don't know the detail period though. | 13:51 |
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| amotoki | Daisy: it is better to ask the foundation, stefano, tom ... | 13:51 |
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| Daisy | I'm sure free pass is talking about the latest 6 month. I just don't know when we shall refresh the ATC list. | 13:52 |
| Daisy | OK. I will ask them. | 13:52 |
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| ianychoi_phone | Neither do I.. | 13:52 |
| eumel8 | for Austin it's already sent out | 13:52 |
| jftalta_ | Yes. I've already got my code. | 13:52 |
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| Daisy | I think there will be two batches. | 13:52 |
| amotoki | eumel8: the first round has been sent out. there are more follow-up rounds. | 13:53 |
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| Daisy | The first batch is sent out. | 13:53 |
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| Daisy | amotoki: yes, exactly. | 13:53 |
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| Daisy | I will work with Tom to make sure our translators will get the ATC code. like what we were doing for Liberty. | 13:54 |
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| Daisy | #topic Current plan midcycle meet up | 13:54 |
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| Daisy | eumel8: frankly speaking, I don't have plan for midcycle meet up. | 13:54 |
| Daisy | eumel8: because I don't think our translators are able to travel. | 13:55 |
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| Daisy | eumel8: I think a local team meet up is more reasonable. | 13:55 |
| ianychoi_phone | How about virtual sprint sprint..?? | 13:55 |
| jftalta_ | I agree with Daisy | 13:55 |
| ianychoi_phone | Spring... | 13:56 |
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| katomo | sprint :) | 13:56 |
| eumel8 | yes, the plan was a virtual meet up | 13:56 |
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| Daisy | ianychoi_phone: a virtual sprint is for solving problems. | 13:56 |
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| ianychoi_phone | Yep, I meant spring sprint kk | 13:57 |
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| Daisy | At the beginning, I'm think about the translation check website. Then I don't know who are able to help to solve this problem. | 13:58 |
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| Daisy | let's say, if I organize a virtual sprint to set up translation check website, will you join and help ? | 13:58 |
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| katomo | Daisy: yep | 13:59 |
| ianychoi_phone | Sure, definitely! Why not? :) | 13:59 |
| eumel8 | yes | 13:59 |
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| ujuc | yep | 13:59 |
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| Daisy | Good! That make me much confident. | 13:59 |
| amotoki | /FYI/ andreas and i are working on translation setup improvement. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/262545/ | 13:59 |
| jftalta_ | Honestly,it will be hard for me | 13:59 |
| amotoki | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:translation_setup | 13:59 |
| Daisy | how about next weekend ? | 14:00 |
| amotoki | if you are interested in them, check it. | 14:00 |
| Daisy | I mean, the virtual sprint ? | 14:00 |
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| ianychoi_phone | Nice :) | 14:00 |
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| eumel8 | the next I'm on holiday. | 14:00 |
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| Daisy | oh. | 14:01 |
| eumel8 | or you mean 01/30 ? | 14:01 |
| Daisy | Yes, eumel8 . | 14:01 |
| Daisy | Let's plan for 2 days. | 14:01 |
| eumel8 | ah, thats good | 14:01 |
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| Daisy | A friday and a saturday. | 14:01 |
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| ujuc | 29, 30? | 14:01 |
| Daisy | We start from 29. | 14:01 |
| ujuc | ok | 14:02 |
| eumel8 | ok | 14:02 |
| katomo | I'm okay as of now | 14:02 |
| Daisy | Yes. ujuc . we start from 29 UTC 0600. | 14:02 |
| ujuc | ...friday 3pm.. ... ... | 14:02 |
| ujuc | KST...; | 14:03 |
| Daisy | Sorry. | 14:03 |
| Daisy | Maybe Friday evening. | 14:03 |
| Daisy | I don't know if there are meeting after us. | 14:03 |
| ujuc | :) | 14:03 |
| Daisy | I have to stop it. Let | 14:03 |
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| Daisy | let's move to i18n channel to continue the discussion. | 14:03 |
| ujuc | oh yes | 14:03 |
| ianychoi_phone | Okay! | 14:03 |
| eumel8 | ok | 14:03 |
| ianychoi_phone | Thanks for all :) | 14:03 |
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| Daisy | Thank you for joining. Go to #openstack-i18n then. | 14:04 |
| Daisy | #endmeeting | 14:04 |
| ujuc | Ok | 14:04 |
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| eumel8 | thx | 14:04 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 21 14:04:04 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:04 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2016/openstack_i18n_meeting.2016-01-21-13.00.html | 14:04 |
| ujuc | tnx | 14:04 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2016/openstack_i18n_meeting.2016-01-21-13.00.txt | 14:04 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2016/openstack_i18n_meeting.2016-01-21-13.00.log.html | 14:04 |
| ujuc | thx :) | 14:04 |
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| amotoki | thanks! | 14:04 |
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| jftalta_ | Thanx Daisy, thank you all. It was a great meeting :) | 14:04 |
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| gordc | #start telemetry | 15:01 |
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| gordc | #startmeeting telemetry | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 21 15:01:28 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gordc. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
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| ityaptin | o/ | 15:01 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'telemetry' | 15:01 |
| sileht | o/ | 15:01 |
| zqfan | hi | 15:01 |
| cdent | o/ | 15:01 |
| liusheng | o/ | 15:01 |
| r-mibu | o/ | 15:01 |
| llu-laptop | o/ | 15:01 |
| ildikov | o/ | 15:02 |
| gordc | let's go. | 15:02 |
| gordc | #topic roadmap items (new/old/blockers) https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Telemetry/RoadMap | 15:02 |
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| gordc | just a heads up | 15:02 |
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| idegtiarov_ | hi! | 15:02 |
| gordc | today i tagged and released m-2 releases for aodh and ceilometer | 15:02 |
| achatterjee_ | Hi | 15:02 |
| gordc | i will start with liberty releases soon (if gate works) | 15:02 |
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| gordc | and i will also tag whatever is last commit in ceilometerclient | 15:03 |
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| gordc | plesae yell now if you need something (it's already too late for m-2) | 15:03 |
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| cdent | I NEED A PIZZA | 15:04 |
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| gordc | the pizza shop near me closed for renovations | 15:04 |
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| _nadya_ | o/ | 15:05 |
| gordc | ok. well just a reminder, http://docs.openstack.org/releases/schedules/mitaka.html | 15:05 |
| gordc | you have ~a month until feature freeze | 15:06 |
| gordc | if anything is dragging, please raise concerns asap | 15:06 |
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| ildikov | I hope I can get the docco in by then for Aodh, I have a +2 now :) | 15:06 |
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| gordc | ildikov: :) | 15:07 |
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| gordc | ildikov: i don't want to debbie downer again but we will probably need to update again later: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/ceilometer-specs/specs/mitaka/only-support-sqlalchemy-in-aodh.html | 15:07 |
| gordc | ildikov: but let's get your patch in first. | 15:07 |
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| gordc | ok. let's talk about each project | 15:08 |
| gordc | #topic aodh topics | 15:08 |
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| gordc | llu-laptop: do you think the event-alarm timeout and multi-worker bps will be done this cycle? | 15:09 |
| llu-laptop | I should ask edwin-zhai about that. | 15:10 |
| llu-laptop | looks like his bp still needs review | 15:10 |
| ildikov | gordc: well, let's get this in first and then I'll update | 15:10 |
| llu-laptop | for the multi-worker, I currently don't have the bandwidth for that, sorry | 15:10 |
| ildikov | gordc: the packaging is still not sorted out either as far as I checked last time :( | 15:11 |
| gordc | llu-laptop: sure, let's defer it then unless you find time. | 15:11 |
| gordc | ildikov: i believe ubuntu just made package recently. EmilienM ? | 15:11 |
| EmilienM | o/ | 15:11 |
| gordc | aodh ubuntu? ready finally? | 15:12 |
| EmilienM | for aodh -> yes and it works on mitaka only (trusty and after) | 15:12 |
| ildikov | gordc: would be cool, I will check SUSE too, haven't done it this week | 15:12 |
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| EmilienM | for gnocchi: nothing. I created the bug | 15:12 |
| EmilienM | no reply | 15:12 |
| llu-laptop | r-mibu: do you have time to review edwin's event alarm related spec? | 15:12 |
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| gordc | EmilienM: surprise. | 15:12 |
| EmilienM | gordc: can I quit? | 15:12 |
| ildikov | EmilienM: great, thanks for the update | 15:12 |
| gordc | wrong window | 15:12 |
| llu-laptop | https://review.openstack.org/239312 | 15:12 |
| EmilienM | lol | 15:12 |
| llu-laptop | https://review.openstack.org/258163 | 15:12 |
| gordc | we all quit later. but it's secret | 15:13 |
| r-mibu | llu-laptop: yep, i've already reviewed #239312 | 15:13 |
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| gordc | pradk: do you think you'll get gnocchi alarm rules in soon? | 15:13 |
| gordc | r-mibu: thanks! | 15:13 |
| r-mibu | llu-laptop: will check #258163 | 15:13 |
| llu-laptop | r-mibu: thx | 15:13 |
| llu-laptop | r-mibu: can you +2 for 239312? | 15:14 |
| pradk | pradk, yea i saw some comments from llu i'll address today.. Zi said he wants to look at tests, i'll check what the status is | 15:14 |
| r-mibu | llu-laptop: yes | 15:14 |
| pradk | gordc, ^^ | 15:14 |
| r-mibu | llu-laptop: do we have spec for multi-worker? | 15:14 |
| llu-laptop | r-mibu: i'm afraid not | 15:14 |
| gordc | pradk: kk. i'm just waiting on tests i think. | 15:15 |
| r-mibu | llu-laptop: ok | 15:15 |
| gordc | r-mibu: we will probably delay it unles we get more resource. | 15:15 |
| llu-laptop | pradk: what comment? | 15:15 |
| r-mibu | gordc: agree | 15:15 |
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| pradk | llu-laptop, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/266073/ | 15:16 |
| gordc | pradk: let's aim for aodhclient release next week? ok with you? | 15:16 |
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| pradk | gordc, yea | 15:16 |
| gordc | pradk: cool cool | 15:16 |
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| gordc | #action release aodhclient next week when gnocchi rules are in | 15:19 |
| gordc | #action delay event multi-worker | 15:19 |
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| gordc | #topic ceilometer topics | 15:19 |
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| gordc | i guess nothing here. just keep working... | 15:20 |
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| gordc | _nadya_: any comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/267625/ | 15:21 |
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| _nadya_ | gordc: based on logs, it works better :) | 15:21 |
| _nadya_ | gordc: but delta graph is the same, we discussed that | 15:21 |
| gordc | _nadya_: that's better. | 15:22 |
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| gordc | _nadya_: i see. i'll take a look at doc again. the deltas will definitely be off once any agent join/leaves | 15:22 |
| gordc | _nadya_: thanks again for studying this. | 15:22 |
| _nadya_ | gordc: we need https://review.openstack.org/#/c/209799/ be merged | 15:22 |
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| gordc | _nadya_: ack. i'll take a look again. | 15:23 |
| liusheng | _nadya_: thanks, I just updated the spec | 15:23 |
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| _nadya_ | gordc: thanks! | 15:23 |
| gordc | llu-laptop: jd__: sileht: if you have time to review polling spec ^ | 15:23 |
| _nadya_ | liusheng: cool! | 15:23 |
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| _nadya_ | jfyi, the PoC is here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/267078/3 | 15:24 |
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| llu-laptop | this one? | 15:25 |
| llu-laptop | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/209799/ | 15:25 |
| gordc | llu-laptop: correct | 15:25 |
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| _nadya_ | ityaptin: do you have anything regarding this^^? | 15:25 |
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| llu-laptop | will do | 15:26 |
| ityaptin | PoC is out-of-date, because the spec have been updated, but I made some tests | 15:26 |
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| gordc | llu-laptop: thank you. | 15:26 |
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| liusheng | _nadya_: the change will be smaller if we agree to a global cache directly by pollsters | 15:26 |
| gordc | ityaptin: cool cool | 15:27 |
| ityaptin | It's works good with metadata updating period = 600s and cpu and network polling interval = 1s, for the 50 VMs on devstack. | 15:27 |
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| gordc | ityaptin: nice. that sounds promising. | 15:27 |
| ityaptin | Unfortunately, I don't have a good lab with many compute for testing it. | 15:27 |
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| gordc | ityaptin: it's optional right? 'global' cache? | 15:28 |
| ityaptin | In the new spec variant I think yes. | 15:28 |
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| ityaptin | liusheng: Am I right? Without global cache we can to store cache in the polling agent cache | 15:29 |
| gordc | k. sounds good. | 15:29 |
| liusheng | ityaptin: if you have any suggestion about the spec, please feel free to comment | 15:30 |
| ityaptin | liusheng: in progress :) | 15:30 |
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| liusheng | ityaptin: without global cache, it seems meaningless, right? | 15:31 |
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| gordc | liusheng: the suggestion is people can still continue to use polling as it currently works | 15:31 |
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| gordc | but if they want to minimise queries more, then can switch to global cache | 15:32 |
| liusheng | gordc: yeah, I agree that | 15:32 |
| gordc | cool cool. | 15:32 |
| gordc | let's change to gnocchi. | 15:33 |
| gordc | #topic gnocchi topics | 15:33 |
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| gordc | jd__: sileht: interesting stuff that needs to be discussed? | 15:33 |
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| gordc | should we publish an update to say what's been done for gnocchi since <time>? | 15:34 |
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| jd__ | we could gather release note I guess | 15:34 |
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| jd__ | I didn't spend time digging into reno, and if it can be integrated into our docco | 15:35 |
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| gordc | jd__: it's a lot of work. tbh | 15:35 |
| jd__ | gordc: to write it? | 15:35 |
| gordc | yeah. | 15:35 |
| gordc | you need to gen template, write something in a section... | 15:36 |
| gordc | i guess it's just two steps... ijust don't like writing relesae notes i guess | 15:36 |
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| gordc | *drop either one of the 'i guess' from sentence above* | 15:37 |
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| gordc | let's move on. | 15:38 |
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| gordc | #topic open discussion | 15:38 |
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| gordc | just an fyi, we have same opportunity to ask a question in openstack survey this cycle | 15:38 |
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| gordc | i don't really have a question to ask but if anyone does, i need to submit something by today. | 15:39 |
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| gordc | i'll take that as no... | 15:40 |
| gordc | last chance for any additional discussions in this meeting... | 15:40 |
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| llu-laptop | can we reuse our last cycle's question? | 15:41 |
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| llu-laptop | only 1 question? | 15:41 |
| gordc | llu-laptop: was it helpful? | 15:41 |
| gordc | llu-laptop: yes, one question. same format | 15:41 |
| gordc | llu-laptop: i believe the reply from last cycle was pretty much 'we ues ceilometer data for everythiing' | 15:42 |
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| llu-laptop | i'm just wondering if this survey will have more response, because it's conducted by openstack official? | 15:43 |
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| gordc | llu-laptop: it probably will. | 15:44 |
| gordc | i don't remember the actual numbers | 15:44 |
| llu-laptop | last one seems about 20ish? | 15:44 |
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| llu-laptop | but only 1 question I doubt how it's helpful | 15:45 |
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| gordc | 154 replies | 15:45 |
| gordc | from official survey | 15:45 |
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| ildikov | we can try that once more if we don't have anything else | 15:45 |
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| ildikov | prolly will not hurt | 15:46 |
| llu-laptop | hmm, looks like my memory is in chaos | 15:46 |
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| gordc | ildikov: did we get a lot of value from learning 'use of ceilometer data'? | 15:47 |
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| ildikov | gordc: maybe not, we needed to improve things anyway regardless of the answer of everything | 15:48 |
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| gordc | correct. i believe the same question we ask last time was asked at ops midcycle as well. | 15:49 |
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| ildikov | gordc: I guess it's too early asking about Aodh as the packaging did not happen that fast | 15:49 |
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| gordc | ildikov: on ubuntu | 15:49 |
| gordc | and suse | 15:49 |
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| gordc | but yeah, i don't think there's enough changes to aodh just yet | 15:49 |
| ildikov | do we have anything to ask about Gnocchi? | 15:50 |
| gordc | jd__: ^ ? | 15:50 |
| ildikov | do we know whether people are using it with Ceilo or stand alone? | 15:50 |
| gordc | ildikov: i believe that is only packaged in fedora | 15:50 |
| ildikov | gordc: you mean Gnocchi? | 15:50 |
| gordc | ildikov: correct | 15:50 |
| gordc | and debuan. | 15:51 |
| gordc | debian | 15:51 |
| gordc | bug sitting around against ubuntu | 15:51 |
| gordc | so same as aodh 5 months ago | 15:51 |
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| jd__ | gordc: not really I guess | 15:52 |
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| gordc | jd__: kk | 15:52 |
| llu-laptop | speaking of aodh, does anyone know that http://launchpad.net/aodh is part of http://launchpad.net/openstack ? | 15:52 |
| ildikov | ok | 15:52 |
| ildikov | no other question ideas :) | 15:53 |
| gordc | llu-laptop: ildikov if you feel strongly about re-asking same question let me know after meeting. (not 100% against it) | 15:53 |
| llu-laptop | because https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack/?searchtext=composite-threshold-rule-alarm gives me nothing, but I can access https://blueprints.launchpad.net/aodh/+spec/composite-threshold-rule-alarm | 15:53 |
| gordc | llu-laptop: i'll take a look. | 15:53 |
| gordc | i don't really use search in launchpad because it's not really useful | 15:54 |
| llu-laptop | ot | 15:54 |
| llu-laptop | it's generated by cliking bp tag in gerrit | 15:54 |
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| gordc | i see. i'll check after this. | 15:55 |
| gordc | anything else? close this off? | 15:55 |
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| gordc | let's shut er down. thanks folks | 15:55 |
| gordc | #endmeeting | 15:56 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 21 15:56:01 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/telemetry/2016/telemetry.2016-01-21-15.01.html | 15:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/telemetry/2016/telemetry.2016-01-21-15.01.txt | 15:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/telemetry/2016/telemetry.2016-01-21-15.01.log.html | 15:56 |
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| Sam-I-Am | hello | 16:01 |
| vhoward | o/ | 16:01 |
| Sam-I-Am | networking guide meeting time | 16:01 |
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| Sam-I-Am | #startmeeting networking-guide | 16:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 21 16:02:32 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Sam-I-Am. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_guide' | 16:02 |
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| Sam-I-Am | anyone here for the networking guide meeting? | 16:03 |
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| jreeves | yep | 16:03 |
| vhoward | yes | 16:03 |
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| Sam-I-Am | cool | 16:03 |
| Sam-I-Am | past action items | 16:03 |
| ssrikant | yes | 16:03 |
| Sam-I-Am | #topic past action items | 16:03 |
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| Sam-I-Am | we're trying to get people to commit content to the networking guide | 16:04 |
| Sam-I-Am | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/networking-guide | 16:04 |
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| Sam-I-Am | if you think you can help out, put your name next to the item and approximately when you think you can complete it | 16:04 |
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| Sam-I-Am | we're primarily looking to fill out the intro content so people can understand the underlying concepts of virtual networking | 16:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | next... | 16:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | #topic preparation for liberty/mitaka | 16:05 |
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| Sam-I-Am | the patch for master merged | 16:06 |
| Sam-I-Am | the backport to liberty is waiting | 16:06 |
| Sam-I-Am | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/270569/ | 16:06 |
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| Sam-I-Am | this patch essentially resolves a bunch of issues regarding conventions | 16:07 |
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| Sam-I-Am | might as well fix them all at once | 16:07 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i also have another patch that updates the scenarios for liberty | 16:07 |
| Sam-I-Am | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/270567/ | 16:07 |
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| jreeves | well, that's a giant commit | 16:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | we're a little bit behind in net guide updates, so with the new versioning going on, we have to backport these changes | 16:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | once they're done, we need to do a final cleanup on the liberty stuff and begin working on mitaka updates | 16:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | which shouldnt be too much at this point | 16:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | which leads me to the next topic | 16:08 |
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| Sam-I-Am | jreeves: yeah it is | 16:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | jreeves: its really not *that* bad | 16:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | unless you're talking about the first patch with all the renames | 16:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | that one IS pretty big | 16:09 |
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| Sam-I-Am | #topic scenario changes for mitaka | 16:10 |
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| Sam-I-Am | the ongoing question is do we add support for connecting vms directly to provider nets to the existing scenarios or add new scenarios. the idea is providing the most flexibility without confusing the end-user. | 16:11 |
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| Sam-I-Am | we see a lot of interest in hybrid environments where operators can avoid L3 if necessary | 16:11 |
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| Sam-I-Am | it might help to reorder the scenarios in order of general complexity | 16:12 |
| Sam-I-Am | starting with basic provider nets and going up to dvr | 16:12 |
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| Sam-I-Am | other changes include adding multiple dhcp agents to the l3ha and dvr scenarios | 16:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | adding support for the metadata agent to the provider scenarios | 16:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | bunch of little stuff | 16:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | thats it on the agena | 16:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | agenda. | 16:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | anything anyone wants to talk about? | 16:13 |
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| lwilliams | i like your idea of putting into order of complexity.. maybe easier to build upon existing that way. nothing to add to the agenda. | 16:14 |
| jreeves | *crickets* | 16:14 |
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| lwilliams | in etherpad overview info...what does (L) (H) mean..sorry if i missed that. is that someone signed up for the content? | 16:15 |
| Sam-I-Am | lwilliams: oh, priority | 16:15 |
| Sam-I-Am | L is low, H is high | 16:15 |
| lwilliams | ok, thx | 16:15 |
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| Sam-I-Am | anything else? | 16:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | hearing nothing, let's call it a meeting. | 16:16 |
| lwilliams | not from me | 16:16 |
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| Sam-I-Am | thanks for attending. back to work! | 16:16 |
| ssrikant | not from me | 16:16 |
| lwilliams | thx Sam-I-Am | 16:17 |
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| Sam-I-Am | #endmeeting | 16:17 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 21 16:17:21 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:17 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_guide/2016/networking_guide.2016-01-21-16.02.html | 16:17 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_guide/2016/networking_guide.2016-01-21-16.02.txt | 16:17 |
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| mtreinish | #startmeeting qa | 17:02 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:02 |
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| jordanP | hi | 17:02 |
| mtreinish | hi who's here today? | 17:02 |
| jordanP | I'll be a bit afk today | 17:02 |
| dwalleck | o/ | 17:02 |
| slowrie | . | 17:03 |
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| mtreinish | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/QATeamMeeting#Proposed_Agenda_for_January_21st_2016_.281700_UTC.29 | 17:03 |
| mtreinish | ^^^ today's agenda | 17:03 |
| cdent | o/ | 17:03 |
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| mtreinish | ok, lets get started | 17:04 |
| mtreinish | #topic QA Code Sprint | 17:04 |
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| mtreinish | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/QA/CodeSprintMitakaBoston | 17:04 |
| mtreinish | this is just a reminder about the code sprint next month | 17:04 |
| mtreinish | if you plan to attend be sure to put your name on the registration table at the bottom of the wiki | 17:05 |
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| mtreinish | that's all I had on this topic, is there anything else on it? | 17:05 |
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| mtreinish | ok, then lets move on | 17:06 |
| mtreinish | #topic Specs Reviews | 17:06 |
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| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/qa-specs,n,z | 17:06 |
| mtreinish | does anyone have any open spec reviews they'd like to discuss? | 17:07 |
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| dwalleck | I do. I put up the tempest run spec earlier this week - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/269934/ | 17:07 |
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| dwalleck | I'd appreciate any comments or feedback. This is all based on what we talked about in Tokyo | 17:07 |
| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/269934/ | 17:07 |
| jlanoux | o/ | 17:08 |
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| mtreinish | yeah, I need to take a look at that | 17:09 |
| dwalleck | Also, if there's any higher priority stuff that needs to be done, let me know. I've got a lot of open bandwidth | 17:09 |
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| jordanP | yeah, I haven"t read that spec either :( | 17:09 |
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| mtreinish | ok, are there any other specs to discuss? | 17:11 |
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| slowrie | mtreinish: I updated the centralized workspaces (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/266094/2) based on your comments in the first patch set | 17:11 |
| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/266094/2 | 17:11 |
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| mtreinish | ok, I'll have to swing back to that one too | 17:12 |
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| mtreinish | ok, lets move on | 17:14 |
| mtreinish | #topic Priority Items | 17:14 |
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| mtreinish | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-qa-priorities | 17:14 |
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| mtreinish | so this week is m-2 | 17:15 |
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| mtreinish | and there were a couple of m-2 targetted items on the list | 17:15 |
| mtreinish | starting from the top, sc68cal and the neutron devstack rewrite (or at least part of it)... | 17:15 |
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| mtreinish | there's also the service client migrations which oomichi has his name next to | 17:16 |
| mtreinish | which I think is making progress but isn't quite done yet | 17:16 |
| mtreinish | I'll follow up with him about that later | 17:17 |
| mtreinish | next on the list is jordanP and the tempest-lib migrations | 17:17 |
| mtreinish | jordanP: any update on that? | 17:17 |
| jordanP | yeah, not really, quite frankly I have very little time now | 17:17 |
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| mtreinish | ok, no worries | 17:17 |
| jordanP | if someone would want to take over this item | 17:18 |
| jordanP | that would be fine with me | 17:18 |
| jordanP | not the most sexy work though | 17:18 |
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| mtreinish | ok, I'll make a note on the etherpad, and see if someone else will take it over | 17:18 |
| jordanP | ok | 17:18 |
| dwalleck | jordanP: I might be able to help you out there. Can I ping you later? | 17:18 |
| jordanP | it will be late now here, but tomorrow for sure | 17:19 |
| jlanoux | I'm on the ss validation one but I don't think it will make m-2 | 17:19 |
| jlanoux | *ssh | 17:19 |
| mtreinish | the last m2 targetted item is Finalize ssh-auth bp (andreaf, jlanoux) | 17:19 |
| jordanP | yep, that's in the review list | 17:19 |
| jordanP | Consolidate SSH code (jordanP): https://review.openstack.org/#/c/264323/ | 17:19 |
| jordanP | no | 17:19 |
| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/264323/ | 17:19 |
| jordanP | my bad | 17:19 |
| jlanoux | mtreinish: I have a couple of patch that needs to go in | 17:19 |
| jordanP | wrong review :( | 17:19 |
| mtreinish | heh, ok | 17:20 |
| mtreinish | #undo | 17:20 |
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| mtreinish | jordanP: do you have a link? | 17:20 |
| jlanoux | actually this is one of them | 17:20 |
| mtreinish | s/jordanP/jlanoux | 17:20 |
| jlanoux | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/264323/ | 17:20 |
| jlanoux | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/259515/ | 17:21 |
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| jlanoux | When those 2 are in, I think we can close the ssh-blueprint, if andreaf is ok | 17:21 |
| jlanoux | And I can migrate compute and remote_client in tempest_lib | 17:22 |
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| mtreinish | ok, I'll take a look | 17:22 |
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| jlanoux | thanks | 17:22 |
| jordanP | I have a comment on patchset 6 for the file remote_client.py | 17:22 |
| jordanP | on 264323 | 17:22 |
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| jordanP | my point is, should the remote client, given it is passed a "server" argument | 17:23 |
| jordanP | should inspect that server argument to detect and connect to a floating ip | 17:23 |
| jordanP | ? | 17:23 |
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| jordanP | or, do we want to have an extra argument named "floatingip" for that RemoteClient ? | 17:24 |
| mtreinish | jordanP: I think we should just look at the server object | 17:24 |
| jordanP | me too | 17:24 |
| mtreinish | it's all in there anyway | 17:24 |
| jlanoux | I don't think we should | 17:24 |
| mtreinish | also I think nova has an api for specifying the ip to use on a server. accessIP or soemthing like that | 17:24 |
| jordanP | the thing is, on some super rare cases not exerciced in Tempest, a server could have 2 floating IP (because it has 2 NICs) | 17:24 |
| jlanoux | discovery will be a complex mechanism to implement and it doesn't bring anyting | 17:24 |
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| jordanP | it's super easy, we are already iterating on the ADDRESSES attribute of the server, to detect its fixed ip | 17:25 |
| dwalleck | mtreinish: The AccessIPv* is just a copy of the public (if you have a public network) IP adress | 17:25 |
| jordanP | just do the same for the FIP | 17:25 |
| jlanoux | on a customer point of view, this is not realistic | 17:25 |
| jlanoux | jordanP: if you have multiple FIP, it is not | 17:25 |
| mtreinish | dwalleck: right, but it tells the user which IP to use | 17:25 |
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| mtreinish | which is the problem here | 17:26 |
| jordanP | jlanoux, yeah but then in that case we can read the conf.network_for_ssh | 17:26 |
| dwalleck | To me the question from a separation of concerns standpoint is if the remote client should be making that decision. It really feels like something outside the remote client should decide that | 17:26 |
| jordanP | jlanoux, ok, you are the owner of that patch anyway, if you don"t feel like it, I am fine | 17:26 |
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| jordanP | the current code does not do inspection, so no change required | 17:27 |
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| jordanP | I think it would be nice, but not mandatory for that patch to go in | 17:27 |
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| jlanoux | jordanP: ok | 17:28 |
| mtreinish | dwalleck: there are too many layers right now, I don't think it's so clear cut | 17:28 |
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| jlanoux | I don't see the point for a discovery of any IP. As a user I create an IP and I want to use it. | 17:28 |
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| dwalleck | mtreinish: That's very true. It would be nice to re-design the process from scratch with a design in mind, but I don't know if there's an appetite for that | 17:29 |
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| jlanoux | I'm thinking of extending the scope of the remote_client, perhaps let it deal with ssh resources | 17:29 |
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| jlanoux | so the creating and association happens in the remote and we don't need to pass 10000 arguments | 17:30 |
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| jordanP | jlanoux, later maybe | 17:31 |
| jordanP | enough layer for now :) | 17:31 |
| mtreinish | heh | 17:31 |
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| jlanoux | jordanP: of course - but it will remove layers :) | 17:32 |
| mtreinish | ok, is there anything else on mitaka priorities? | 17:32 |
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| mtreinish | oh ttx had an openstack-health m2 goal | 17:32 |
| mtreinish | but that was half a joke | 17:32 |
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| mtreinish | #topic Tempest | 17:33 |
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| mtreinish | so there are quite links on the agenda for tempest | 17:34 |
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| mtreinish | jordanP: want to tackle yours first | 17:34 |
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| jordanP | yep | 17:35 |
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| jordanP | so https://review.openstack.org/#/c/259859 was +A now | 17:35 |
| jordanP | so it's not relevant to discuss anymore | 17:35 |
| mtreinish | ok | 17:35 |
| jordanP | and Consolidate SSH code (jordanP): https://review.openstack.org/#/c/264323/ | 17:36 |
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| mtreinish | heh, didn't we just discuss that one :) | 17:36 |
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| jordanP | after discussion with jlanoux right now, he doesn"t want to do discovery of the floating IP | 17:36 |
| jordanP | yeah, exactly | 17:36 |
| jordanP | so I am good now :) | 17:36 |
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| jordanP | I will +2 that patch | 17:37 |
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| mtreinish | ok, that was easy :) | 17:37 |
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| jlanoux | thanks jordanP :) | 17:37 |
| mtreinish | the other link on the agenda was: | 17:37 |
| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/255161/ | 17:37 |
| mtreinish | I don't know who added that one though | 17:37 |
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| jordanP | someone from Japan | 17:38 |
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| jordanP | i added it to the wiki | 17:38 |
| jordanP | but the patch is from someone in japan | 17:38 |
| jordanP | so that patch seems related to tempest plugin obviously | 17:38 |
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| jordanP | it could conflict with what andreaf is doing | 17:38 |
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| jordanP | as far as I understand the 2-line patch, it should help people writting plugin, so that they could use their custom clientsManager | 17:39 |
| mtreinish | well, I don't know if it conflicts with that. I don't see the harm with it | 17:39 |
| mtreinish | yeah, it just lets a subclass override the clientManager class a bit more easily | 17:40 |
| mtreinish | I mean I don't like encouraging using tempest internals externally, but I don't think we need to go out of way to make it hard | 17:40 |
| mtreinish | especially since tempest-lib isnt all there yet | 17:40 |
| andreaf | jordanP, mtreinish: ok - well it doesn't help removing the dependency from tempest | 17:40 |
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| andreaf | jordanP, mtreinish: but I'm not specifically against it either | 17:41 |
| mtreinish | ok, is there anything else on tempest for this week? | 17:42 |
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| jordanP | not from me | 17:43 |
| mtreinish | ok, then let's move on | 17:43 |
| mtreinish | #topic DevStack + Grenade | 17:43 |
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| mtreinish | does anyone have anything to discuss on devstack or grenade this week? | 17:43 |
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| mtreinish | ok, I guess not | 17:45 |
| mtreinish | let's move on then | 17:45 |
| mtreinish | #topic Critical Reviews | 17:45 |
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| mtreinish | Does anyone have any reviews they'd like to get extra eyes on? | 17:46 |
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| mtreinish | really, no reviews this week? :) | 17:47 |
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| jlanoux | :) I gave mine earlier | 17:48 |
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| mtreinish | ok, if there aren't any reviews I'll guess we'll open the floor | 17:48 |
| mtreinish | #topic Open Discussion | 17:49 |
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| mtreinish | does anyone have anything else they'd like to discuss | 17:49 |
| mtreinish | now is the change to bring it up | 17:49 |
| mtreinish | s/change/chance | 17:49 |
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| mtreinish | ok, if there isn't anything else to discuss today, I guess we'll end here | 17:52 |
| mtreinish | thanks everyone | 17:52 |
| mtreinish | #endmeeting | 17:52 |
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| dtroyer | #startmeeting openstackclient | 19:03 |
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| stevemar | dtroyer: i am swamped with keystoney mitaka-2 stuff | 19:04 |
| dtroyer | courtesy ping: dhellmann, terrylhowe, lhcheng, dstanek, MeganR | 19:04 |
| stevemar | dtroyer: you reviewed a whole bunch of stuff last week | 19:04 |
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| dtroyer | stevemar: sure. I really don't have much new anyway | 19:04 |
| * dhellmann sits in the back of the room to listen | 19:04 | |
| dtroyer | I think getting to the next release point WRT network commands is still the priority | 19:05 |
| dtroyer | is terry out this week? I haven't seen him in IRC for a while | 19:06 |
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| stevemar | dtroyer: probably, haven't seen much of him either | 19:07 |
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| dtroyer | this may be quick… I'll wait a few more minutes then call it if no one else shows | 19:07 |
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| stevemar | dtroyer: terry *just* reviewed a patch | 19:09 |
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| stevemar | :) | 19:09 |
| lhcheng_ | o/ | 19:09 |
| rtheis | sorry, I'm late | 19:09 |
| rtheis | o/ | 19:09 |
| stevemar | welcome welcome | 19:10 |
| dtroyer | ooooh, youse guys were close… I almost called it a day ;) | 19:10 |
| stevemar | sit in the front row | 19:10 |
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| dtroyer | ok, well we've got a few here, this still may be short | 19:11 |
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| * dstanek is lurking | 19:11 | |
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| dtroyer | aha! another keystone dev ;) this is good as the one thing I wanted to ask about is connected to KSC | 19:11 |
| dtroyer | #topic bugs | 19:12 |
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| dtroyer | going through some older bugs i came across https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstackclient/+bug/1391116 | 19:12 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1391116 in python-openstackclient "password prompts should check for empty string" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Tang Chen (tangchen) | 19:12 |
| stevemar | dtroyer: we're everywhere | 19:12 |
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| stevemar | dtroyer: i asked tangchen to open that bug | 19:13 |
| dtroyer | I'm curious why thedata validation shouldn;t be in the KSC python lib rather than in OSC | 19:13 |
| stevemar | the issue is worse when shown in OSC | 19:13 |
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| stevemar | so in OSC and KSC, on a user create and update call, you can set the password to be "" | 19:13 |
| dtroyer | right. is that valid? | 19:14 |
| stevemar | dtroyer: we have no requirements about passwords | 19:14 |
| dtroyer | ok, so it is valid | 19:14 |
| dtroyer | but apparently it is unusable? | 19:14 |
| stevemar | the issue crops up on authentication | 19:14 |
| dtroyer | right. should it work with an empty password? | 19:14 |
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| lhcheng_ | fwiw, we made password mandatory field in horizon, it can't be empty. | 19:15 |
| dtroyer | good to know | 19:15 |
| stevemar | so i *think* this works if you do a straight REST call to keystone and authenticate | 19:15 |
| stevemar | and i think it works with KSC using auth plugins | 19:15 |
| stevemar | but if you set OS_PASSWORD="" for OSC, it fails | 19:15 |
| dtroyer | is that the real bug then? | 19:16 |
| stevemar | i might be mis-remembering ... | 19:16 |
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| stevemar | i'm not sure, i asked him to log the bug so we could chat about it here | 19:16 |
| dtroyer | I think I have always assumed that empty password was not valid | 19:16 |
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| stevemar | so whats the harm in preventing an empty password for create and update? | 19:16 |
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| dtroyer | I don't know there is any other than really bad practice | 19:17 |
| dtroyer | or we could take the Horizon position and decide it is not allowd | 19:17 |
| stevemar | could | 19:17 |
| dtroyer | it sounds as if KSC has stated it will not prevent empty passwords | 19:17 |
| dtroyer | is stating | 19:18 |
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| dtroyer | ok, so I think I understand now | 19:19 |
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| dtroyer | Horizon has decided to not accept empty passwords | 19:19 |
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| dtroyer | Keystone and KSC allow them and are not going to prevent them | 19:19 |
| stevemar | that sums it up | 19:19 |
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| dtroyer | so it is up to OSC to decide what to do: fix OS_PASSWORD="" or disallow empty passwords | 19:20 |
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| dtroyer | opinions anyone? | 19:20 |
| dtroyer | I can argue both sides | 19:20 |
| lhcheng_ | one of OSC's goal is to improve usability, sounds like making password required achieve that goal? | 19:21 |
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| lhcheng_ | allowing empty password would just cause headache for users. | 19:21 |
| clarkb | seems like that should be decided by the api | 19:21 |
| MeganR | is there a use case for allowing empty paswords? | 19:21 |
| dtroyer | the danger there is say another app sets an empty password, we could be getting in the way of that being usable | 19:21 |
| clarkb | if empty passwords are a problem fix it in the api | 19:21 |
| dtroyer | clarkb: that's my thinking | 19:21 |
| lhcheng_ | dtroyer: good point | 19:22 |
| dtroyer | so it sounds like we should fix OSC to accept empty passwords for auth? | 19:23 |
| stevemar | cause right now, i can do `os user create bob` and it works for v3 https://github.com/openstack/python-openstackclient/blob/master/openstackclient/identity/v3/user.py | 19:23 |
| stevemar | but bob will never be able to authenticate now :( | 19:24 |
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| dtroyer | right. ok, I'll clarify the bug so I don't forget this conversation… | 19:25 |
| lhcheng_ | a use case I could think of where empty password would happen is during a enterprise user account creation workflow, the account could be created by an admin with empty password. then on user logging on first time (passing a nonce), they are prompted for the password. | 19:25 |
| dtroyer | even though this is different than Horizon, it is more permissive | 19:25 |
| dtroyer | lhcheng_: good example | 19:25 |
| lhcheng_ | but that's too custom of a use case.. something we did for the public cloud. | 19:26 |
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| MeganR | @lhcheng: thank you | 19:26 |
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| dtroyer | bug updated | 19:27 |
| dtroyer | any other bugs anyone wants to talk about? | 19:28 |
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| stevemar | dtroyer: there was one about trusts... | 19:28 |
| stevemar | dtroyer: i filed it last week: https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstackclient/+bug/1535190 | 19:29 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1535190 in python-openstackclient "cannot use trust based authentication with osc" [Undecided,New] | 19:29 |
| dtroyer | yes | 19:29 |
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| stevemar | i think it's partly related to https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstackclient/+bug/1533369 | 19:29 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1533369 in python-openstackclient "moving authentication from keystoneclient to keystoneauth" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Navid Pustchi (npustchi) | 19:29 |
| dtroyer | do you have an idea of what needs to be done there? | 19:29 |
| stevemar | dtroyer: i think it comes down to untangling the osc-ksa-occ mess | 19:30 |
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| dtroyer | I'm regretting occ now, fwiw | 19:30 |
| stevemar | dtroyer: there is at least one little bit we can fix, that's to allow TRUST_ID as a scope, in addition to PROJECT and DOMAIN | 19:31 |
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| stevemar | after that, i'm not sure whats going on, it seems like the scope isn't being set, so i get an empty catalog | 19:31 |
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| dtroyer | does that come from the env/CLI/clouds.yaml? | 19:32 |
| stevemar | dtroyer: the trust id? | 19:33 |
| dtroyer | yes | 19:33 |
| stevemar | dtroyer: think of it as an alternate to project_id | 19:33 |
| stevemar | so it'll come from CLI/env | 19:33 |
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| dtroyer | ok | 19:33 |
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| stevemar | dtroyer: just wanted to bring it to the groups attention, i don't know when i can work on it | 19:35 |
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| dtroyer | np, it helps me understand how we handle trusts | 19:36 |
| dtroyer | any other bugs? | 19:36 |
| dtroyer | #topic reviews | 19:37 |
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| dtroyer | how about reviews? | 19:37 |
| stevemar | i've been neglecting reviews | 19:37 |
| stevemar | did the logging one land? | 19:37 |
| dtroyer | I think I said something and Akihiro abandoned them | 19:38 |
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| lhcheng_ | Akihiro have a new patch up, I haven't got the chance to browse through it | 19:38 |
| dtroyer | well, the three bulk update ones | 19:38 |
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| stevemar | abandoned? | 19:39 |
| stevemar | hmm | 19:39 |
| lhcheng_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/269613/ this is the new one | 19:39 |
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| dtroyer | yeah, I haven't looked at it yet either | 19:40 |
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| dtroyer | I may jump on https://review.openstack.org/84782 to get it in | 19:41 |
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| stevemar | wow thats an early number | 19:41 |
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| dtroyer | I think it was from is original set of commands | 19:41 |
| stevemar | dtroyer: do it up | 19:42 |
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| dtroyer | it looks like https://review.openstack.org/258519 got stuck last week, although I'm not sure we need to hold up the release for it fi it isn't ready | 19:43 |
| rtheis | yeah, that is behind https://review.openstack.org/#/c/257543/ | 19:44 |
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| dtroyer | ah, ok | 19:44 |
| rtheis | for the refactor of existing network commands over to neutron | 19:44 |
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| dtroyer | FWIW we have historically erred on the side of simplicity and duplicated code | 19:46 |
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| rtheis | thanks, good to know | 19:46 |
| dtroyer | I'd like to do a release next week if possible, do we need to wait for this? | 19:47 |
| rtheis | I don't think we do | 19:47 |
| dtroyer | ok | 19:47 |
| dtroyer | any other reviews? | 19:48 |
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| rtheis | I have a couple on moving availability zones to common: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/267598/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/267061/ | 19:50 |
| dtroyer | one more: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/259595/ stevemar, you had previously +2 it but a couple of changes were made that I don't want to just push it in... | 19:50 |
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| stevemar | hmm? | 19:52 |
| stevemar | oh, i wanted to test it out | 19:52 |
| dtroyer | rtheis: right. I'll give them a look this afternoon, I don't see anything worrisome at a quick glance | 19:52 |
| stevemar | one reviewer had a good point | 19:52 |
| rtheis | dtroyer: thank you | 19:52 |
| stevemar | dtroyer: you fix that thing gongysh mentioned? | 19:52 |
| stevemar | where he got the error even after using --project | 19:52 |
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| dtroyer | yes, I believe I did | 19:53 |
| stevemar | awesome | 19:53 |
| stevemar | i see it now | 19:53 |
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| dtroyer | I duplicated it and fixed it for me, but my setup isn't the most representative | 19:53 |
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| stevemar | dtroyer: too late now, i +W'ed! | 19:54 |
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| dtroyer | :) | 19:54 |
| dtroyer | any others? | 19:54 |
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| dtroyer | #topic open discussion | 19:56 |
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| dtroyer | 5 minutes, what is on your mind? | 19:56 |
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| lhcheng_ | we got a new customer, searchlight is developing an osc plugin | 19:57 |
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| dtroyer | cool | 19:57 |
| lhcheng_ | dtroyer: do we have a doc/ guideline for resource namespacing? | 19:57 |
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| dtroyer | I recall writing a bit on that, I think it's in the docs | 19:58 |
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| lhcheng_ | they had dash on their resource name, I asked them to fix that. I can't find a reference where we don't recommend that. | 19:58 |
| dtroyer | now I am curious where I put that stuff | 19:59 |
| dtroyer | I don't see it in the repo docs | 19:59 |
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| stevemar | dtroyer: in the ether | 20:00 |
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| stevemar | dtroyer: -> #endmeeting | 20:00 |
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| dtroyer | #endmeeting | 20:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 21 20:00:39 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstackclient/2016/openstackclient.2016-01-21-19.03.html | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstackclient/2016/openstackclient.2016-01-21-19.03.txt | 20:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstackclient/2016/openstackclient.2016-01-21-19.03.log.html | 20:00 |
| * dtroyer obeys good advice | 20:00 | |
| dtroyer | thanks everyone | 20:00 |
| lhcheng_ | thanks dtroyer | 20:00 |
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| rtheis | thanks | 20:02 |
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| ctrath | nova mtg? | 21:04 |
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| mriedem | i could run it | 21:05 |
| mriedem | #startmeeting nova | 21:05 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 21 21:05:17 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mriedem. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:05 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:05 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 21:05 |
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| ctrath | o/ | 21:05 |
| edleafe | \o | 21:05 |
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| * Vek waves | 21:05 | |
| alaski | o/ | 21:05 |
| cdent | o/ | 21:05 |
| markus_z | o/ | 21:05 |
| thomasem | o/! | 21:05 |
| rlrossit_ | o/ | 21:05 |
| takashin | o/ | 21:05 |
| scottda | Hi | 21:05 |
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| melwitt | how do you like it at o/ | 21:05 |
| jlvillal | o/ | 21:05 |
| jroll | ohai | 21:06 |
| mriedem | so we're winging it today | 21:06 |
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| mriedem | #link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova | 21:06 |
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| mriedem | #topic release status | 21:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "release status (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:06 | |
| mriedem | Jan 21: Nova non-priority feature freeze | 21:06 |
| mriedem | as most people know | 21:06 |
| claudiub | o/ | 21:06 |
| mriedem | today is the day to get non-priority BPs in | 21:06 |
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| mriedem | i was told this morning that anything that has 2 +2s on it will still get in despite the gate backup | 21:06 |
| mriedem | which will probably last over the weekend | 21:07 |
| mriedem | for the rest, i'm assuming there will be an exception process/period | 21:07 |
| mriedem | Jan 19-21: mitaka-2 | 21:07 |
| jaypipes | o/ | 21:07 |
| mriedem | i'm not sure if m-2 happened yet | 21:07 |
| mriedem | we were waiting on some fixes to merge | 21:07 |
| mriedem | in here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-nova-priorities-tracking | 21:07 |
| mriedem | #link mitaka priorities tracking https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-nova-priorities-tracking | 21:07 |
| mriedem | 1 of 3 in that list are merged | 21:08 |
| mriedem | one is approved | 21:08 |
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| mriedem | the other is not https://review.openstack.org/#/c/265601/ | 21:08 |
| mriedem | oh wait yeah it is | 21:08 |
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| mriedem | so i guess m-2 will wait until those are all merged, so probably next week | 21:09 |
| mriedem | questions about any of that? | 21:09 |
| mriedem | #topic regular reminders | 21:09 |
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| mriedem | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-nova-priorities-tracking | 21:09 |
| mriedem | already posted that once | 21:09 |
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| mriedem | so for the rest of the release it's going to be focusing on getting the priorities done (as much as possible) and bug fixing/stabilization | 21:10 |
| mriedem | #topic bugs | 21:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:10 | |
| mriedem | gate status.... | 21:10 |
| mriedem | so, it's bad | 21:10 |
| thomasem | :( | 21:10 |
| mriedem | the grenade multinode job was made non-voting | 21:10 |
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| edleafe | "How bad is it? | 21:11 |
| mriedem | which should help, but there was a gate reset so everything was re-queued | 21:11 |
| * cdent gently slaps edleafe | 21:11 | |
| mriedem | hence 30+ hour gate times | 21:11 |
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| anteaya | well that and pip | 21:11 |
| anteaya | still waiting on travis for release of virtualenv 14.0.1 | 21:12 |
| mriedem | yeah, that was a few days ago though | 21:12 |
| mriedem | one of many disasters this week | 21:12 |
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| mriedem | anyway, that's what i know of at least so far, nothing new beyond that | 21:12 |
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| mriedem | #topic 3rd party ci status | 21:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "3rd party ci status (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:12 | |
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| mriedem | i guess 2 things here | 21:12 |
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| mriedem | 1. vmware nsx ci was taking 3.5+ days to report on changes | 21:13 |
| mriedem | so something snuck in which broke spawn for vcenter, which is not good | 21:13 |
| mriedem | i've added that patch to the m-2 list | 21:13 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/270867/ | 21:13 |
| mriedem | anyway, i'm hoping tjones and the vmware people can figure out why it's taking nearly 4 days for a reply | 21:13 |
| mriedem | 2. hyper-v ci was failing a lot this week | 21:14 |
| tjones | yes we are looking at it. trying to add more resources to it | 21:14 |
| mriedem | claudiub: do you know anything about the hyper-v ci status? | 21:14 |
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| mriedem | taking that as a no | 21:14 |
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| claudiub | mriedem: hello, yeah, I am investigating it. I've fixed quite a few of them | 21:14 |
| mriedem | anyway, it's not gating so it's not blocking anything, just fyi | 21:14 |
| mriedem | claudiub: oh hi | 21:14 |
| mriedem | claudiub: anything you want to share or just 'we're working on it?' | 21:15 |
| claudiub | mriedem: there are still a couple of them, plus, there are some neutron related issues that we have to deal with | 21:15 |
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| mriedem | ok, i guess let us know if there is anything needed on the nova side | 21:15 |
| claudiub | mriedem: plus, there seems to be some tests that are always failing due to some weird circumstances. | 21:15 |
| claudiub | mriedem: yeah, there's a mini-patch that would really help me on fixing the hyper-v ci | 21:16 |
| * claudiub fetching link | 21:16 | |
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| claudiub | this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/265239/ | 21:16 |
| claudiub | basically, it keeps the original exception's trace | 21:17 |
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| mriedem | #note please help review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/265239/ | 21:17 |
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| * mriedem assumes that is a valid meeting tag | 21:17 | |
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| mriedem | #help review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/265239/ | 21:17 |
| anteaya | I think #info is | 21:17 |
| anteaya | I don't know about #note | 21:17 |
| mriedem | help is too | 21:17 |
| claudiub | otherwise, the original trace is lost, losing valuable debugging information. | 21:17 |
| mriedem | claudiub: ok, i'll review after the meeting, it's small | 21:18 |
| mriedem | shouldn't be a problem | 21:18 |
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| mriedem | moving on | 21:18 |
| mriedem | #topic critical bugs | 21:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "critical bugs (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:18 | |
| mriedem | all i know of is https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1536718 | 21:18 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1536718 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "VMware: unable to boot an instance" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Gary Kotton (garyk) | 21:18 |
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| mriedem | which the change is approved | 21:18 |
| mriedem | anyone else have any critical bugs? | 21:18 |
| markus_z | the reno one is also done? | 21:18 |
| mriedem | markus_z: link? | 21:18 |
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| markus_z | mriedem, https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1534613 | 21:18 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1534613 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "warnings in stable/liberty release notes are breaking releasenotes job in master" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Matt Riedemann (mriedem) | 21:18 |
| mriedem | markus_z: that was fixed earlier in the week | 21:19 |
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| mriedem | dhellmann graciously held my hand through that one | 21:19 |
| markus_z | ok, cool, it wasn't totally clear to me | 21:19 |
| mriedem | #info dhellmann is the man | 21:19 |
| mriedem | anteaya: ^ there | 21:19 |
| anteaya | :) | 21:19 |
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| mriedem | markus_z: yeah https://review.openstack.org/#/c/268669/ closes it | 21:19 |
| anteaya | yes #help and #info are commands, #note is not | 21:19 |
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| edleafe | #note '#note' is not a command | 21:20 |
| markus_z | ack | 21:20 |
| mriedem | #topic bug reminders | 21:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bug reminders (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:20 | |
| mriedem | volunteers for 1 week of bug skimming duty? Weekly_bug_skimming_duty | 21:20 |
| anteaya | and dhellman is the man | 21:20 |
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| markus_z | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/BugTriage#Weekly_bug_skimming_duty | 21:21 |
| mriedem | we need a bug skimmer for next week if anyone wants to volunteer | 21:21 |
| mriedem | doesn't have to happen here | 21:21 |
| markus_z | yeah, there is a ML post too | 21:21 |
| mriedem | Nova bugs team IRC meeting will start at February the 9th http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-January/084543.html | 21:21 |
| mriedem | #info Nova bugs team IRC meeting will start at February the 9th http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-January/084543.html | 21:21 |
| markus_z | just as a heads up | 21:21 |
| mriedem | #topic stable branch status | 21:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "stable branch status (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:21 | |
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| mriedem | we released liberty 12.0.1 earlier in the week | 21:22 |
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| mriedem | to much fanfair | 21:22 |
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| mriedem | also, tonyb is now nova stable core, so everyone can bug him now | 21:22 |
| anteaya | yay tonyb | 21:22 |
| markus_z | hooray for tonyb :) | 21:22 |
| jaypipes | if we can understand his funny words. | 21:22 |
| claudiub | congrats! | 21:22 |
| Vek | heh | 21:23 |
| mriedem | stable/kilo will release soonish, i'm told | 21:23 |
| jroll | you don't need to understand his words to ping him incessantly :) | 21:23 |
| mriedem | Daviey is running the stable/kilo release | 21:23 |
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| mriedem | once stable/kilo is released, we'll need to scrub through https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/kilo,n,z and filter out anything that's not a security or critical bug fix | 21:23 |
| mrda | tonyb: does sound funny, even to Australians | 21:23 |
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| Vek | haha :) | 21:24 |
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| mriedem | #topic stuck reviews | 21:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "stuck reviews (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:24 | |
| mriedem | there was nothing on the agenda | 21:24 |
| mriedem | so i take it we're all in agreement about all things | 21:24 |
| mriedem | except cinder multiattach, which we'll discuss at the midcycle | 21:24 |
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| mriedem | anyone else for stuck reviews? | 21:24 |
| vladikr | mriedem, I have a libosinfo series : https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/libvirt-hardware-policy-from-libosinfo | 21:25 |
| vladikr | mriedem, it has danpbs +2 | 21:25 |
| mriedem | vladikr: stuck does not mean not getting reviewed | 21:25 |
| vladikr | ok :) | 21:25 |
| mriedem | so please don't solicit for reviews here | 21:25 |
| Vek | I've sent a couple of novaclient reviews over to the -dev list, but I haven't seen anyone respond to those emails... | 21:25 |
| thomasem | mriedem: Sorry for my ignorance... how would you define a stuck review? | 21:25 |
| mriedem | thomasem: the same way the meeting agenda does | 21:25 |
| mriedem | "Please note "stuck review" means a review where there is some disagreement that needs resolving. Its not for reviews that just haven't had attention, except for exceptional cases. Where you see "?" feel free to just edit the wiki and add your item." | 21:25 |
| Vek | thomasem: a review where two reviewers are pulling in opposite directions, I think... | 21:26 |
| thomasem | Oh, crud. Sorry. Didn't notice that on the page. :( | 21:26 |
| mriedem | :) | 21:26 |
| mriedem | walked right into that trap | 21:26 |
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| thomasem | Okay, yeah, not having that problem with my review. | 21:26 |
| thomasem | LOL right | 21:26 |
| thomasem | Well, fyi for anyone else who didn't catch it so they don't look stupid like me ^^ | 21:26 |
| mriedem | vladikr: ok, i guess you still technically have the rest of the day on those for non-priority bp feature freeze | 21:26 |
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| vladikr | mriedem, ok | 21:27 |
| mriedem | #topic open discussion | 21:27 |
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| mriedem | midcycle details | 21:27 |
| mriedem | #link midcycle wiki https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sprints/NovaMitakaSprint | 21:28 |
| mriedem | #link midcycle topics https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-nova-midcycle | 21:28 |
| mriedem | if you have topics for the midcycle ^ is where they go | 21:28 |
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| mriedem | i think wed we have some time with the cinder midcycle | 21:28 |
| mriedem | over hangout | 21:28 |
| mriedem | wed afternoon in bristol, wed morning in rtp | 21:28 |
| mriedem | it should be fun | 21:28 |
| mriedem | anything else about the midcycle? | 21:29 |
| scottda | mriedem: yup, that's the plan | 21:29 |
| ildikov | +1 | 21:29 |
| anteaya | neutron items seem to be in place | 21:29 |
| mriedem | i'm going to skip the TC review for containers in the compute mission that was in the agenda | 21:29 |
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| mriedem | (thomasem) Libvirt/LXC experimental gate test progress | 21:29 |
| mriedem | ^ is old too i think | 21:29 |
| edleafe | any chance of listening in for those of us who can't make it to the UK? | 21:29 |
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| thomasem | So, yes | 21:29 |
| mriedem | edleafe: maybe? | 21:30 |
| mriedem | probably | 21:30 |
| mriedem | edleafe: talk to PaulMurray | 21:30 |
| thomasem | Got a bug filed upstream. Found it's an issue with the kernel being used in gate | 21:30 |
| edleafe | mriedem: will do | 21:30 |
| mriedem | thomasem: nice | 21:30 |
| thomasem | the newest Trusty kernel has issues with Libvirt's virDomainShutdown | 21:30 |
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| mriedem | and releasing things? | 21:30 |
| thomasem | While upstream 3.13.x does not | 21:30 |
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| anteaya | I think .58 was what you said worked for you | 21:31 |
| mriedem | thomasem: ok, so that probably affects all tests in the job since they rely on instances to be deleted | 21:31 |
| thomasem | So, we have this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/267724/7 up to skip those tests while the bug is being worked. And here's the bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libvirt/+bug/1536280 | 21:31 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1536280 in linux (Ubuntu) "domain shutdown fails for libvirt/lxc" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 21:31 |
| anteaya | where as we have .76 everywhere do to last tuesday's cve | 21:31 |
| thomasem | mriedem: It's only with Libvirt/LXC | 21:31 |
| mriedem | thomasem: yeah, but if you can't delete an instance you eventually go over quota | 21:31 |
| mriedem | or is this just stop? | 21:31 |
| thomasem | It's only the way libvirt/LXC does the shutdown operation and how that interacts with the kernel that appears to be an issue. | 21:31 |
| thomasem | mriedem: just stop | 21:31 |
| thomasem | you can still delete it | 21:31 |
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| thomasem | so virsh -c lxc:/// destroy still works | 21:32 |
| mriedem | ah, ok | 21:32 |
| thomasem | it's just virsh -c lxc:/// stop <instance> | 21:32 |
| thomasem | that fails | 21:32 |
| thomasem | yep | 21:32 |
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| mriedem | we should probably put a note in our hypervisor support matrix for that | 21:32 |
| thomasem | So, filed that bug, skipping the tests in that patch. Now gates just being painful and having resource issues on the slave it looks like... not sure where to go from there. | 21:32 |
| mriedem | i'll review the rc change at some point | 21:32 |
| thomasem | That'd be very helpful. Thank you. I don't mind adding a note to the hypervisor matrix. Just need to find it. I haven't looked at it in a long, long time. | 21:33 |
| thomasem | :) | 21:33 |
| mriedem | thomasem: thanks for the work on this, it's cool to see it progressing | 21:33 |
| mriedem | (tpatzig) Flavor with volume option (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/flavor-with-volume) | 21:33 |
| mriedem | i'm assuming ^ is old b/c tpatzig isn't here | 21:33 |
| thomasem | mriedem: You bet! Thanks for the support. :) | 21:33 |
| alaski | I don't think that's old | 21:33 |
| mriedem | it's also a spec and we're long past spec freeze | 21:33 |
| alaski | yeah | 21:33 |
| alaski | I've commented on it | 21:34 |
| mriedem | - AL | 21:34 |
| mriedem | :) | 21:34 |
| mriedem | MLB AL has taken a stance | 21:34 |
| alaski | heh | 21:34 |
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| mriedem | (sdague) Unit tests with constraints - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/267096/ | 21:35 |
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| mriedem | ^ is old | 21:35 |
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| mriedem | it looks like the 2 dependent changes merged for that | 21:36 |
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| mriedem | so maybe sdague will resurrect it next week | 21:36 |
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| mriedem | jenkins hates it right now though | 21:36 |
| mriedem | (sdague) What are acceptable constraints on project_id in url - http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-January/083976.html | 21:36 |
| mriedem | i think ^ is old? | 21:36 |
| Vek | jenkins hates just about everything right now, I think... | 21:36 |
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| anteaya | yeah :( | 21:36 |
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| anteaya | jenkins has had better weeks | 21:37 |
| mriedem | i think that ML was talked about last week and we had the change for a configurable project_id | 21:37 |
| mriedem | alaski: ^ right? | 21:37 |
| * Vek thinks it heard about me threatening to rewrite jenkins from scratch and is quaking in its boots... | 21:37 | |
| alaski | we did discuss it | 21:37 |
| alaski | I | 21:37 |
| alaski | I'm not sure if a change went up | 21:37 |
| mriedem | ok, and i'm pretty sure the change landed | 21:37 |
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| alaski | okay | 21:37 |
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| mriedem | yeah, i remember we nit picked all of sean's spelling issues | 21:37 |
| mriedem | it was good fun | 21:37 |
| Vek | haha :) | 21:38 |
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| mriedem | and finally | 21:38 |
| mriedem | (thomasem, dimtruck) Update on Libvirt/LXC gate test progress | 21:38 |
| mriedem | which is a duplicate | 21:38 |
| mriedem | so ignoring | 21:38 |
| mriedem | anything else for open discussion? | 21:38 |
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| mriedem | i'll clean up the meeting agenda after this | 21:38 |
| mriedem | oh, also | 21:38 |
| mriedem | #info no nova meeting the week of 1/21 | 21:38 |
| mriedem | oops | 21:38 |
| mriedem | 1/24 | 21:38 |
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| mriedem | #undo | 21:38 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Info object at 0x982ef90> | 21:38 |
| mriedem | #info no nova meeting on 1/28 | 21:39 |
| mriedem | ok, i don't hear anything else, will shut this down, thanks all | 21:39 |
| claudiub | question: can we still merge teeny patches related to os-brick in nova after m-2? | 21:39 |
| mriedem | claudiub: bug fixes? | 21:39 |
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| mriedem | yes to bug fixes | 21:39 |
| mriedem | anything else will have to be evaluated | 21:39 |
| claudiub | more like, using os-brick for volume related operations in hyper-v? :D | 21:40 |
| mriedem | that's a bp | 21:40 |
| mriedem | at least in my mind | 21:40 |
| mriedem | it doesn't sound teeny | 21:40 |
| alaski | agreed | 21:40 |
| claudiub | it would be < 100 loc, IMO | 21:40 |
| claudiub | added loc | 21:40 |
| mriedem | it's still a new dependency after feature freeze and not trivial | 21:40 |
| alaski | it's a functional change | 21:40 |
| mriedem | *new dep for hyper-v | 21:40 |
| mriedem | so i think newton | 21:41 |
| mriedem | anyone for anything else? | 21:41 |
| claudiub | meh, ok | 21:41 |
| mriedem | alright, thanks all, ttyl | 21:41 |
| mriedem | #endmeeting | 21:41 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 21 21:41:33 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:41 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2016/nova.2016-01-21-21.05.html | 21:41 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2016/nova.2016-01-21-21.05.txt | 21:41 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2016/nova.2016-01-21-21.05.log.html | 21:41 |
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