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crinkle | o/ | 14:00 |
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crinkle | anyone here for puppet-openstack? | 14:00 |
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xingchao | Hi | 14:01 |
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crinkle | hi, anything to add to the agenda? https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/PuppetOpenStack | 14:02 |
sbadia | hi | 14:02 |
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sbadia | (for me no :s) | 14:03 |
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EmilienM | o/ | 14:03 |
dprince | o/ | 14:04 |
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spredzy | Hello | 14:04 |
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crinkle | #startmeeting puppet-openstack | 14:04 |
openstack | Meeting started Mon Jan 26 14:04:43 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is crinkle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:04 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:04 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: puppet-openstack)" | 14:04 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'puppet_openstack' | 14:04 |
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crinkle | #topic Review last week's Action items | 14:05 |
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crinkle | EmilienM: update on vancouver proposal? | 14:05 |
EmilienM | crinkle: yep | 14:05 |
EmilienM | mfisch, mdorman and I are proposing a talk | 14:05 |
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EmilienM | #action Emilien to update https://etherpad.ring.enovance.com/p/vancouver-summit-proposal-upgrades with a new proposed talk | 14:06 |
EmilienM | oops wrong link | 14:06 |
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EmilienM | #undo | 14:07 |
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EmilienM | #action Emilien to update https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/puppet-vancouver-summit-proposal with a new proposed talk | 14:07 |
EmilienM | crinkle: it's about puppet openstack modules and real use-cases | 14:07 |
crinkle | sounds good | 14:08 |
crinkle | bogdando: around? | 14:08 |
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EmilienM | crinkle: reading http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2015/puppet_openstack.2015-01-12-14.00.html - you had to send communications to ML - any update? | 14:08 |
crinkle | I did not send an update on the mailing list, will do | 14:10 |
EmilienM | cool | 14:10 |
EmilienM | #link Talk #1 with mfisch mdorman & emilien https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/xfrye9phZc | 14:10 |
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crinkle | #topic open discussion | 14:12 |
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crinkle | anything else to bring up? | 14:12 |
EmilienM | crinkle: I have something | 14:13 |
spredzy | One thing | 14:13 |
spredzy | Few weeks ago EmilienM mentionned trello/story board in the ML | 14:13 |
EmilienM | dprince: ping | 14:13 |
spredzy | are people using any one of those ? If so would you guys agree we mode action items to a card / item on those software ? | 14:14 |
dprince | EmilienM: hi | 14:14 |
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spredzy | So it is easier to get in an oingoing effort | 14:14 |
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EmilienM | dprince did some interesting work on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/147954/ - we need a review from core team and if merged, follow this way to patch all other modules | 14:14 |
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spredzy | be able to take a part of an effort, follow it, etc... | 14:14 |
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crinkle | one thing at a time | 14:14 |
EmilienM | spredzy: ML showed us low interesting on this | 14:15 |
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EmilienM | interest* | 14:15 |
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EmilienM | if we setup an tool like this and we are only 3 at using it, it's not useful I think | 14:15 |
dprince | EmilienM: yes, once that lands (and we agree on a good pattern) I'm up for pushing this around to other modules as well | 14:15 |
dvorak | I think it's the sort of thing that's not very interesting in the abstract :) | 14:15 |
crinkle | storyboard seems too unstable at the moment and trello was controversial | 14:15 |
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EmilienM | +1 for storyboard == not we currently need | 14:16 |
spredzy | crinkle, can't we start with a 'controversial' tool and later eventually move into storyboard ? I mean there are several effort moving forward in //, and it will be good to have a grasp on what's going on, a global overview, avancement etc.. | 14:16 |
spredzy | be ableto jump in | 14:17 |
spredzy | currently, this is a litle bit hard I think | 14:17 |
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dvorak | +1 for trying out Trello | 14:19 |
EmilienM | shall we vote? | 14:20 |
sbadia | seem's the only solution no, so +1 too | 14:20 |
spredzy | +1 | 14:20 |
spredzy | :) | 14:20 |
crinkle | #startvote Should we try out Trello? | 14:21 |
openstack | Begin voting on: Should we try out Trello? Valid vote options are Yes, No. | 14:21 |
openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 14:21 |
spredzy | #vote Yes | 14:21 |
sbadia | #vote Yes | 14:21 |
EmilienM | #vote No | 14:21 |
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EmilienM | usually, only core people can vote | 14:21 |
EmilienM | it's like this in OpenStack projects | 14:21 |
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crinkle | :/ | 14:21 |
sbadia | hum… | 14:22 |
sbadia | but for this decision not only core people will use trello | 14:22 |
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EmilienM | it's up to you guys, I just "say it" | 14:23 |
xingchao | #vote No | 14:23 |
* crinkle abstains | 14:23 | |
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crinkle | EmilienM: since it was your idea I'm not going to vote against you | 14:24 |
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EmilienM | crinkle: I'm voting against my idea :-) | 14:24 |
crinkle | right | 14:24 |
EmilienM | I don't think it's a good idea, since we are not enough. | 14:24 |
EmilienM | crinkle: feel free to vote | 14:24 |
crinkle | #vote No | 14:24 |
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EmilienM | look at how much we are in meetings, on IRC, and in contributions - to use trello we have to be at least ~9 guys working full time | 14:25 |
spredzy | I think this can be a part of why we are so little | 14:25 |
sbadia | but it's not the case | 14:25 |
spredzy | its hard to have an overview of whats going on | 14:25 |
EmilienM | I thought it was a good idea but in fact I reverted by position. though we can start using it, it's costless | 14:25 |
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spredzy | who's working on what, how can I help someone taking a simple item, etc... | 14:26 |
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spredzy | encouraging participation | 14:26 |
EmilienM | we can setup one and see how it works | 14:26 |
EmilienM | spredzy: we have LP for it | 14:26 |
EmilienM | bugs/BP | 14:26 |
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spredzy | LP doesn't allow one to work in a worflow maneer but still fair point for the bugs | 14:27 |
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crinkle | seems like we're still undecided, let's move on and take it to #puppet-openstack later | 14:27 |
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spredzy | +1 | 14:27 |
sbadia | crinkle: +1 | 14:27 |
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crinkle | back to dprince's patch? | 14:27 |
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crinkle | EmilienM: dprince can you explain why EmilienM's comment about constructing identity_uri won't work? | 14:29 |
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dprince | crinkle: sure, I suppose my thought is that this just duplicates the legacy behaviour already in python-keystoneclient's auth_token middleware | 14:30 |
dprince | crinkle: this behavior logs a deprecation warning... to encourage users to actually start setting identity_uri | 14:30 |
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EmilienM | that would make sense | 14:30 |
dprince | crinkle: so the goal here would be to encourage the same things while not duplicating I guess | 14:31 |
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EmilienM | crinkle: what is doing is the root cause of many troubles if you miss it | 14:31 |
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crinkle | sounds good to me | 14:32 |
EmilienM | ok, dprince and I will take care of this | 14:33 |
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EmilienM | #action dprince & emilien to patch other modules with identity_uri support | 14:33 |
sbadia | yep seems good | 14:33 |
sbadia | thanks! | 14:33 |
crinkle | okay | 14:34 |
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crinkle | anything else? | 14:34 |
EmilienM | crinkle: for trello, if spredzy thinks that could bring new contributors, we can let him set it up and see how it works | 14:34 |
EmilienM | again it's costless | 14:34 |
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spredzy | I can take the action, I'd be pleased | 14:34 |
EmilienM | spredzy: go ahead | 14:34 |
sbadia | spredzy: go ahead | 14:34 |
spredzy | #action spredzy sets up trello, and make every action of this meeting a card | 14:35 |
crinkle | #action spredzy will set up a trello to try out | 14:35 |
crinkle | oops | 14:35 |
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EmilienM | \o/ | 14:35 |
EmilienM | spredzy: thanks! | 14:35 |
sbadia | héhé, /kill clone msg :) | 14:35 |
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crinkle | okay, let's wrap up | 14:36 |
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crinkle | #endmeeting | 14:36 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jan 26 14:36:05 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:36 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2015/puppet_openstack.2015-01-26-14.04.html | 14:36 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2015/puppet_openstack.2015-01-26-14.04.txt | 14:36 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2015/puppet_openstack.2015-01-26-14.04.log.html | 14:36 |
crinkle | thanks everyone | 14:36 |
sbadia | thanks all! | 14:36 |
spredzy | Thank you, have a great day/evening | 14:36 |
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EmilienM | adios | 14:37 |
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anteaya | #startmeeting third-party | 15:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Mon Jan 26 15:00:38 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is anteaya. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'third_party' | 15:00 |
anteaya | hello | 15:00 |
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anteaya | raise your hand if you are here for the third-party meeting | 15:01 |
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wznoinsk | o/ | 15:04 |
anteaya | hello wznoinsk | 15:04 |
anteaya | welcome | 15:05 |
wznoinsk | hi anteaya | 15:05 |
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anteaya | what stage are you at in your third party testing? | 15:05 |
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wznoinsk | the CI is working in it's default configuration, currently trying to solve a problem running process in hugepages in LXC containers | 15:07 |
anteaya | congratulations | 15:07 |
anteaya | hugepages? | 15:07 |
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anteaya | what are hugepages? | 15:10 |
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wznoinsk | it's a way of using bigger (2MB, 1GB) than standard (4k) memory pages for processes, hence less memory lookups needed = faster | 15:10 |
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anteaya | interesting | 15:10 |
wznoinsk | that's what our CI will be testing amond other things | 15:10 |
anteaya | and how is your trouble shooting going addressing your problem? | 15:11 |
anteaya | sounds interesting | 15:11 |
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wznoinsk | good so far | 15:11 |
anteaya | glad to hear it | 15:12 |
wznoinsk | I was actually wondering were many CI systems using (lxc) containers do you know | 15:12 |
anteaya | well folks aren't telling me the names of their systems anymore | 15:12 |
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anteaya | so it is hard for me to match querents with systems | 15:12 |
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anteaya | I am getting a few questions but they might all be from you | 15:12 |
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anteaya | or your system, I don't know | 15:13 |
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anteaya | was that your main goal for today? | 15:15 |
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anteaya | or was there anything in addition to that? | 15:17 |
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wznoinsk | yes, that was the only q I had actually | 15:26 |
anteaya | okay sorry I can't answer it | 15:26 |
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anteaya | with all the new CIs folks are less willing to tell me about themselves | 15:26 |
anteaya | I | 15:26 |
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anteaya | 'll listen if they tell me | 15:27 |
anteaya | but they don't seem to | 15:27 |
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asselin_ | good morning | 15:33 |
anteaya | morning asselin_ | 15:34 |
patrickeast | hey | 15:34 |
anteaya | hello patrickeast | 15:34 |
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asselin_ | hi patrickeast | 15:34 |
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anteaya | were you here to help out or did you have something you wish to discuss? | 15:35 |
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patrickeast | help out, so far my ci setup is working happily | 15:36 |
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anteaya | patrickeast: thank you for being willing to help others | 15:36 |
anteaya | I appreciate it | 15:37 |
anteaya | glad your ci is happy | 15:37 |
anteaya | which is yours? | 15:37 |
patrickeast | Pure Storage CI | 15:37 |
anteaya | ah | 15:37 |
anteaya | will you be at the cinder mid-cycle this week? | 15:37 |
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patrickeast | yep, at the airport right now | 15:38 |
anteaya | nice, I'll be there Wednesday and Thursday | 15:38 |
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anteaya | in my hotel going to nova mid-cycle this morning | 15:38 |
anteaya | the two overlap | 15:38 |
patrickeast | ah cool, should be fun to meet everyone i’ve only seen on irc up until now | 15:39 |
patrickeast | is the nova one at the same location? | 15:39 |
anteaya | yeah, having face time is really helpful | 15:39 |
asselin_ | patrickeast, sorry I won't be there in person. maybe via video/google hangouts | 15:39 |
anteaya | no, I'm in palo alto | 15:39 |
anteaya | asselin_: yeah I still can't believe you can't get travel time :( | 15:40 |
patrickeast | asselin_: bummer, will you be able to go to the vancouver one? | 15:40 |
asselin_ | vancouver is maybe | 15:40 |
anteaya | Vancouver is I hope to see asselin_ there | 15:41 |
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anteaya | we don't seem to have a lot to talk about right now | 15:50 |
anteaya | I'm going to call it and we can move off to other things | 15:51 |
anteaya | thanks for being here today | 15:51 |
anteaya | see you next week | 15:51 |
anteaya | #endmeeting | 15:51 |
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patrickeast | haha, i just pointed someone over here from infra | 15:51 |
openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jan 26 15:51:22 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:51 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2015/third_party.2015-01-26-15.00.html | 15:51 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2015/third_party.2015-01-26-15.00.txt | 15:51 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2015/third_party.2015-01-26-15.00.log.html | 15:51 |
anteaya | patrickeast: oops, sorry | 15:51 |
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patrickeast | anteaya: is k, not sure if they were going to join or not | 15:51 |
anteaya | patrickeast: thanks for thinking of it | 15:52 |
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rakhmerov | #startmeeting Mistral | 16:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Mon Jan 26 16:00:03 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rakhmerov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'mistral' | 16:00 |
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rakhmerov | hi | 16:00 |
NikolayM | hi! | 16:00 |
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rakhmerov | let's wait for others | 16:01 |
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rakhmerov | ok | 16:04 |
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rakhmerov | #topic Review Action Items | 16:04 |
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rakhmerov | 1. rakhmerov, dzimine, create necessary BPs/bugs for the upcoming "cleaning up" work | 16:04 |
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rakhmerov | mostly done | 16:04 |
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rakhmerov | 2. rakhmerov, NikolayM: reply to Winson on action providers design | 16:04 |
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rakhmerov | done | 16:04 |
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rakhmerov | dzimine, clarify https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral/+spec/mistral-runtime-context definition with Winson | 16:05 |
dzimine | Hi all | 16:05 |
rakhmerov | that was 3 | 16:05 |
rakhmerov | hi dzimine | 16:05 |
dzimine | right on time :) but no | 16:05 |
rakhmerov | it's done as well | 16:05 |
rakhmerov | :) | 16:05 |
rakhmerov | 4. rakhmerov, add a couple of unit tests checking "updated_at population | 16:05 |
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rakhmerov | it's done as well, Nastya also fixed functional tests to verify updated_at | 16:06 |
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rakhmerov | #topic Current Status (by team members) | 16:06 |
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rakhmerov | my status: last week finished with Secure Data Access BP, participated lots of design discussions etc. Today I finished fixing the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/mistral/+bug/1412635 | 16:07 |
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rakhmerov | there was a lot of unit test to fix | 16:07 |
rakhmerov | plans: look at with-items and result/output thing | 16:08 |
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rakhmerov | already started | 16:08 |
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NikolayM | my status: worked and fixed patches on with-items and concurrency, fixed some bugs. Today began to work on JavaScript action (some research about what JS engine we will use exactly) | 16:09 |
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rakhmerov | NikolayM, do you see any roadblocks? | 16:09 |
rakhmerov | with script action | 16:09 |
dzimine | my status: I was discovering and investigating bugs, and discussed with renat and others how to fix them. Small fix re task error output. More on the way. | 16:09 |
rakhmerov | NikolayM, we assumed script action BP would take 7 days, do you still think it's the right estimation? | 16:10 |
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rakhmerov | dzimine, yeah, your fix has already been merged in | 16:11 |
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dzimine | NikolayM, do you have cycles to look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/mistral/+bug/1413535 | 16:11 |
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NikolayM | no, I just found the right JS engine and try to emulate some JS lines | 16:12 |
dzimine | looks like you know testr stuff the best of us | 16:12 |
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dzimine | re JavaScript task - than we need to flash out the sytax of communicating data in and out (especially out). | 16:13 |
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rakhmerov | yep | 16:13 |
rakhmerov | as usually, "test first" | 16:13 |
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NikolayM | yes | 16:13 |
rakhmerov | I think we can agree on the syntax pretty quickly | 16:14 |
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rakhmerov | don't think there will be serious problems | 16:14 |
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NikolayM | will the JS action work with our data context? | 16:14 |
rakhmerov | that's the part of the task | 16:14 |
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NikolayM | or it will just work in its separate ctx? | 16:15 |
rakhmerov | somehow we need to be able to pass context data into a script | 16:15 |
rakhmerov | nope, not a separate ctx | 16:15 |
rakhmerov | same | 16:15 |
NikolayM | ok | 16:15 |
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rakhmerov | so our assumption was that in that JS we should implicitly have function to access external context and pass data back to it | 16:16 |
rakhmerov | I think there was some info about that in the BP itself | 16:16 |
rakhmerov | let me check | 16:16 |
rakhmerov | yes, please look at it again carefully | 16:17 |
rakhmerov | for example, there's a syntax "v = read_from_context("param")" | 16:17 |
rakhmerov | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral/+spec/mistral-javascript-action | 16:17 |
dzimine | in_context and input parameters will come in and somehow (how syntaxically?) will be available within the script. Than there gotta be syntax to make internal parameters available for the outer context so that they can be used in publish and on-success etc. | 16:17 |
rakhmerov | yes | 16:17 |
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rakhmerov | it might be pretty challenging though | 16:17 |
dzimine | but this ‘syntax’ is exactly what we need to flash out | 16:18 |
rakhmerov | we just need to research this first | 16:18 |
rakhmerov | yes | 16:18 |
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rakhmerov | as far as heavy_init(), NikolayM already looked at it and it looks like it's not that easy to fix | 16:19 |
rakhmerov | unfortunately | 16:19 |
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rakhmerov | so we need to think more | 16:19 |
rakhmerov | but my suggestion is to postpone it for a couple of weeks | 16:19 |
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rakhmerov | unless you think it's a blocker | 16:19 |
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rakhmerov | thoughts? | 16:20 |
dzimine | ok. | 16:20 |
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rakhmerov | so guys, I don't actually have much else today for the agenda | 16:21 |
dzimine | w4dcoder found a concurrency bug that he’ll file about today. | 16:21 |
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rakhmerov | ooh, really? | 16:21 |
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rakhmerov | well, it can be actually... | 16:21 |
rakhmerov | ok | 16:21 |
rakhmerov | I wonder where exactly | 16:21 |
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dzimine | I am quite concerned and let us get him on htis to repro and add all the logs. | 16:21 |
rakhmerov | ok | 16:22 |
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rakhmerov | somewhere in engine? | 16:22 |
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rakhmerov | #topic Open discussion | 16:22 |
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dzimine | don’t know. Too bad the meeting time is such that Winson can’t make it. But I asked him to file once he repro it. | 16:23 |
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rakhmerov | ok | 16:23 |
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rakhmerov | guys, I suggest we shut down the meeting for today | 16:23 |
rakhmerov | looks like we know what to do | 16:23 |
dzimine | yes. | 16:23 |
dzimine | cheers! | 16:23 |
rakhmerov | Dmitri, I sent you an invitation to talk about result/output | 16:23 |
rakhmerov | can you make it? | 16:24 |
dzimine | ok. | 16:24 |
rakhmerov | your 10pm | 16:24 |
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NikolayM | bye! | 16:24 |
dzimine | ok. | 16:24 |
rakhmerov | ok, bye | 16:24 |
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rakhmerov | thank you ) | 16:24 |
rakhmerov | #endmeeting | 16:24 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jan 26 16:24:46 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:24 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2015/mistral.2015-01-26-16.00.html | 16:24 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2015/mistral.2015-01-26-16.00.txt | 16:24 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2015/mistral.2015-01-26-16.00.log.html | 16:24 |
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rluethi | #startmeeting training-guides | 17:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Mon Jan 26 17:00:22 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rluethi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'training_guides' | 17:00 |
rluethi | hi there | 17:00 |
vigneshvar | hi | 17:00 |
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vigneshvar | i have just joined and want to contribute to training guides | 17:01 |
rluethi | hi sayali | 17:01 |
sayali | Hello rluethi | 17:01 |
rluethi | vigneshvar: welcome | 17:01 |
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vigneshvar | i spoke with pranav and he gave me some guidence | 17:01 |
matjazp | hey | 17:01 |
rluethi | vigneshvar: ah, I think he might have mentioned you | 17:01 |
rluethi | hi matjazp | 17:01 |
rluethi | pranav coming, does anyone know? | 17:02 |
sayali | hello vigneshvar matjazp | 17:02 |
vigneshvar | hello everyone | 17:02 |
matjazp | hi vigneshvar | 17:02 |
rluethi | let's start then. | 17:02 |
rluethi | #topic follow-up action items 19 Jan | 17:02 |
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rluethi | http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2015/training_guides.2015-01-19-17.00.html | 17:03 |
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wojdev | hi, here is Wojtek, taled with Pranav, last week @ Suse meetup | 17:03 |
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rluethi | hi wojdev | 17:03 |
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rluethi | matjazp: is the dependency still an issue? | 17:03 |
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matjazp | rluethi: yes, I was waiting a bit to decide what would the naming convention be | 17:04 |
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rluethi | matjazp: there is no hurry, is there? | 17:04 |
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matjazp | rluethi: nope | 17:05 |
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rluethi | matjazp: cool. if you need feedback again, let us know. | 17:05 |
matjazp | rluethi: but I would like to just start merging asap.. | 17:05 |
rluethi | matjazp: I also hope you are getting the promised help :). | 17:05 |
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rluethi | right, the branching update. sarob and pranav aren't here, bummer. | 17:06 |
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rluethi | I think we developed an agreement that we merge again everything that is cool for Icehouse and Juno. | 17:06 |
rluethi | we still hold back on Juno-only stuff. | 17:07 |
matjazp | rluethi: we should just merge sean's patches and start the ball rolling again | 17:07 |
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rluethi | matjazp: which ones would that be? can you post a list to the ML? | 17:07 |
rluethi | matjazp: I suppose that would be the fastest way. | 17:08 |
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matjazp | rluethi: will do | 17:08 |
rluethi | #action matjazp posts list of patches that should be reviewed and merged ASAP to get the ball rolling again | 17:08 |
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rluethi | anything else on last week's action items? | 17:09 |
rluethi | #topic Sayali's new specs | 17:09 |
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sayali | yes they need some attention now ;) | 17:10 |
rluethi | Sayali posted two new specs, take a look everyone and comment. | 17:10 |
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rluethi | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/144635/ | 17:10 |
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sayali | Audio Visual Spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/143270/ | 17:11 |
sayali | Color Support for osnbash: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/144635/y | 17:11 |
rluethi | right, thank you :-). | 17:11 |
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rluethi | sayali: anything people should know about the specs? | 17:11 |
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sayali | Ah nope nothing as of now | 17:12 |
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vigneshvar | Hi guys i would like to make my initial contributions on audio visual, if any specific action items can be mentioned i can take it | 17:12 |
rluethi | k. | 17:12 |
dguitarbite | hello | 17:12 |
dguitarbite | sorry for being late | 17:12 |
rluethi | #topic requirements for labs scripts | 17:12 |
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rluethi | hi dguitarbite | 17:12 |
vigneshvar | hi dguitarbite | 17:12 |
rluethi | matjazp sent me an email with some info after I added this to the agenda. | 17:13 |
dguitarbite | hi vigneshvar | 17:13 |
sayali | vigneshvar: cool, we are currently working of some videos to demonstrate osbash | 17:13 |
dguitarbite | rluethi: yes, tell me | 17:13 |
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dguitarbite | vigneshvar: lets discuss this after the current topic | 17:13 |
rluethi | the issue is that we are currently considering the future architecture of osbash. | 17:13 |
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vigneshvar | dguitarbite: sure | 17:13 |
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rluethi | and the requirements (such as those mentioned by matjazp) are an influence on these considerations. | 17:14 |
matjazp | rluethi: should we put those on etherpad? or Wiki? | 17:14 |
dguitarbite | rluethi: I do not understand future part | 17:14 |
rluethi | for instance, do we need several compute/network nodes? | 17:14 |
dguitarbite | can you please specify? Also CC me into the email | 17:14 |
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rluethi | if we merge all config/scripts.<node> into one file, that has several advantages, but it makes adding lots of compute nodes more complicated. | 17:15 |
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matjazp | dguitarbite: I can foward that mail to the ML? | 17:15 |
dguitarbite | rluethi: lets move this discussion for later on, I just want to say that we should try to get to more openstack'y conf. files | 17:15 |
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dguitarbite | so that it serves these issues while being useful for stacktrain | 17:15 |
rluethi | dguitarbite: duly noted. | 17:16 |
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rluethi | everyone: if the osbash scripts are not suitable for you for some reason, let us know. | 17:16 |
dguitarbite | we need to be able to keep our cluster scalable and also consider use-cases where people will want to run VMs which are heavy like Windows VMs etc. | 17:16 |
rluethi | I suck at mindreading, and I don't know about dguitarbite . | 17:16 |
dguitarbite | rluethi: I am a born psysic (nah!) | 17:17 |
dguitarbite | ;) | 17:17 |
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rluethi | so, since we have several new guys in this meeting, I am taking the liberty of inserting another topic: | 17:17 |
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rluethi | #topic introductions | 17:17 |
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rluethi | hi new guys, who are you, and what are your interests in training-guides? | 17:18 |
dguitarbite | yes, unless there are any other urgent topics, lets focus on welcoming new comers | 17:18 |
rluethi | dguitarbite: beat you to it :-). | 17:18 |
dguitarbite | rluethi: damn, cant beat German's at efficiency ;) | 17:18 |
vigneshvar | Hi, I am vigneshvar, i have been contributing to some blueprints in Nova, I can do shell scripts and python code | 17:19 |
rluethi | dguitarbite: I'll try not to take offense from that :) | 17:19 |
vigneshvar | I would like to initially contribute on some AV | 17:19 |
rluethi | vigneshvar: cool, exactly what the doctor ordered. | 17:19 |
dguitarbite | rluethi: I thought you where swiss-german (anyhow ... you may kill me after the meeting) | 17:19 |
matjazp | vigneshvar: nice... welcome, btw :) | 17:19 |
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vigneshvar | :) | 17:19 |
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wojdev | Hi, I am Wojtek, I am working on bringing openstack course to WSB Schools of Business in Poland. I am interested in contributing to the d | 17:20 |
wojdev | guide | 17:20 |
wojdev | . Skill set: bash, python, chef, vagrant, test-kitchen.. java | 17:20 |
wojdev | :D | 17:20 |
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rluethi | very nice. this is a good way to start a week. :-) | 17:21 |
dguitarbite | welcome guys :D good to see you here | 17:21 |
matjazp | wojdev: WSB? Is that Uni?... oh.. and welcome :) | 17:21 |
sayali | yes it surely is nice to see you guys :) | 17:21 |
wojdev | Yes. It is a university | 17:21 |
rluethi | newcomers are always encouraged to try the osbash scripts and report any problems/issues. | 17:21 |
wojdev | I feel encouraged | 17:21 |
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wojdev | and .. inspearied | 17:21 |
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vigneshvar | rluethi: Yap started exploring | 17:21 |
matjazp | wojdev: nice.. how far are you with your course? planning? next academic year? | 17:22 |
rluethi | also, if you guys have questions, the core reviewers are usually available and response to queries via IRC and/or email. | 17:22 |
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wojdev | Sorry, guys I have to leave | 17:22 |
matjazp | wojdev: sure, see you around | 17:23 |
dguitarbite | wojdev: lets catch up over the docs mailing list | 17:23 |
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vigneshvar | you guys are on any specific channel | 17:23 |
vigneshvar | ? | 17:23 |
rluethi | openstack-doc | 17:23 |
sayali | openstack-doc | 17:23 |
vigneshvar | thanks | 17:23 |
sayali | vigneshvar: As I understand you would like to help make some videos for the AV project? | 17:24 |
matjazp | vigneshvar: also on docs ML, use tag [training-guides] | 17:24 |
vigneshvar | sayali: yes | 17:24 |
vigneshvar | sayali: you are right | 17:24 |
vigneshvar | matjazp: sure will check the mailing list | 17:25 |
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sayali | vigneshvar: cool, if you are already familiar with any openstack deployment you could suggest that and take that up | 17:25 |
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sayali | here is the link to the etherpad where you can find AV related stuff: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstck-training-guides%28Audio_Visual_Content%29 | 17:26 |
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rluethi | Talking about introductions, maybe we should have short descriptions with IRC handles on our Wiki so we can point newcomers to that (so they know who is who and what they are working on). | 17:26 |
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vigneshvar | sayali: i have seen you have done for openstack on virtualbox | 17:27 |
* rluethi wonders if it is possible to rename etherpads (openstck) | 17:27 | |
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vigneshvar | sayali: yes will look into that etherpad | 17:27 |
sayali | yeah rluethi I think its time I should correct that :D | 17:27 |
rluethi | Okay guys, I consider introductions done. | 17:28 |
sayali | vigneshvar: yep thats the first | 17:28 |
rluethi | #topic any other business | 17:28 |
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rluethi | dguitarbite: any news you would like to share (e.g. on branching)? | 17:28 |
dguitarbite | yes, waiting for the infra team | 17:28 |
rluethi | heh. fun. | 17:29 |
dguitarbite | Andreas says that the people responsible for branching are travelling | 17:29 |
dguitarbite | it should happen anytime now, keep tight | 17:29 |
* rluethi is not holding his breath | 17:29 | |
vigneshvar | i would also like to contribute on scripts - bug fixes | 17:29 |
vigneshvar | any pointers on where i can fit in | 17:30 |
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rluethi | vigneshvar: that is a very good question. | 17:30 |
rluethi | vigneshvar: we may have to adapt our processes as we become a larger group. | 17:31 |
matjazp | rluethi: maybe a new, smaller feature? | 17:31 |
rluethi | vigneshvar: we have several splits that lets us work without too many collisions. | 17:31 |
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rluethi | e.g., between client-side and host-side. | 17:31 |
rluethi | also (hopefully soon) VirtualBox vs. KVM. | 17:32 |
rluethi | matjazp: lbaas? | 17:32 |
vigneshvar | rluethi: Ok.. | 17:32 |
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vigneshvar | do we also track bugs in launchpad | 17:32 |
matjazp | rluethi: yes, it looks smaller then other we talked about | 17:32 |
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rluethi | matjazp, vigneshvar: lbaas looks good because it would be useful and it's at the end of the install process, so not many dependencies. | 17:33 |
matjazp | vigneshvar: do you know LBaaS? | 17:33 |
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matjazp | rluethi: exactly my thoughts | 17:34 |
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vigneshvar | yes i have used neutron-LBaaS | 17:34 |
vigneshvar | matjazp: yes i have used neutron-LBaaS | 17:34 |
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rluethi | matjazp: is there an install document on docs.openstack for lbaas, one that we could follow? | 17:34 |
matjazp | vigneshvar: what do you think? could you add that to the labs scripts | 17:34 |
rluethi | matjazp: and will it work with our current three node setup? | 17:34 |
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vigneshvar | matjazp: Yes its possible.. I have just started with osbash | 17:35 |
matjazp | rluethi: sure, I've been demoing it with allinone | 17:35 |
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matjazp | rluethi: shopuld we just file a bug for this? missing LBaaS ;) | 17:36 |
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rluethi | matjazp: if you can send a URL or your own install instructions to vigneshvar (and maybe other devs), that would be awesome. | 17:36 |
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vigneshvar | I think filing bugs or making it part of spec would be useful | 17:36 |
rluethi | matjazp: yeah, at least I prefer a bug over a spec in this case. | 17:36 |
matjazp | rluethi: I7ve been using it on Devstack | 17:36 |
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rluethi | matjazp: that's cheating, you traitor. | 17:37 |
dguitarbite | matjazp: +1 for bug | 17:37 |
matjazp | +1 for bug... BP or Spec is too heavy | 17:37 |
vigneshvar | matjazp: +1 for bug | 17:37 |
sayali | +1 bug, specs take too long | 17:37 |
matjazp | rluethi: yes, I7ve been cheating you guys with DevStack ;) | 17:37 |
rluethi | #action matjazp files a bug to get LBaaS added to osbash scripts | 17:37 |
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dguitarbite | matjazp: not fair! | 17:38 |
matjazp | well... for developers, DevStack is a must anyway | 17:38 |
rluethi | #action vigneshvar will look at fixing the lack-of-LBaaS bug in osbash | 17:38 |
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rluethi | vigneshvar: if you could report your impressions next week, that would be great | 17:39 |
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matjazp | dguitarbite: DevStack is like a gold standard for Developers :) | 17:39 |
vigneshvar | rluethi: Yap i will take it. | 17:39 |
vigneshvar | rluethi: sure | 17:39 |
sayali | we shuld work on adding devstack support to osbash soon ;) | 17:39 |
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rluethi | vigneshvar: cool | 17:39 |
dguitarbite | matjazp: yes, but its only for developers IMHO | 17:39 |
rluethi | sayali: we might, eventually. | 17:39 |
dguitarbite | matjazp: not everyone is developer! | 17:39 |
matjazp | dguitarbite: DevStack has ALL the new stuff you want to demo... I don't see it as a competing "product", more as a complementary tool | 17:40 |
ProgrammedToKill | Serial killers do not actually exist. People do not wake up one day and decide to become a 'serial killer.' It's total bullshit. Why were serial killings such a rampant phenomenon in the sixties and seventies, only to almost completely disappear in the present day as suddenly as they had appeared? Why are we now seeing more than one 'mass shooting' every few months? This isn't the way natural behaviors manifest. | 17:40 |
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rluethi | okay, I guess this is a sign that it's time to wrap up. | 17:41 |
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rluethi | anything else that can't wait until next week? :) | 17:41 |
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dguitarbite | need for speed | 17:41 |
vigneshvar | is there a one stop URL where we can find pending tasks | 17:41 |
dguitarbite | vigneshvar: hold on | 17:41 |
rluethi | vigneshvar: file:///home/rl/todo.txt | 17:41 |
dguitarbite | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-training-developing-topics | 17:42 |
vigneshvar | dguitarbite: Ok | 17:42 |
ProgrammedToKill | Gen. Douglas MacArthur said that the people must always be kept in fear, whether it is some foreign enemy ("terrorists") or some mysterious domestic enemy like 'serial killers' or 'school shooters.' Most "conspiracy theorists" are well-aware that tragedies like 9/11 and the train bombings in London were orchestrated by the military-intelligence services for this purpose. Why should "serial killings" be any differe | 17:42 |
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dguitarbite | rluethi: I am not sure if your URL Will work | 17:43 |
ProgrammedToKill | I think in many cases the "serial killer" is innocent of some or in some cases all of the killings attributed to them. A bunch of contract hits related to organised crime, police corruption, government assassinations and cult sacrifices are all attributed to some hapless 'nut' in order to clear the books of a bunch of inconvenient unsolved cases. | 17:43 |
dguitarbite | and also I am a bit irritated by spammers, lets call this a day | 17:43 |
rluethi | once again, welcome to all the news folks, see you on openstack-doc | 17:43 |
rluethi | dguitarbite: agreed. | 17:43 |
ProgrammedToKill | dude i'm not a spammer just look at the patterns | 17:43 |
sayali | see you | 17:43 |
rluethi | that's all, folks! thanks for coming. | 17:43 |
ProgrammedToKill | why do ALL OF THEM COME FROM MILITARY-INDUSTRIAL-INTELLIGENCE FAMILIES? | 17:43 |
vigneshvar | see you all | 17:43 |
rluethi | #endmeeting | 17:43 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jan 26 17:43:54 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:43 |
dguitarbite | see ya | 17:43 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2015/training_guides.2015-01-26-17.00.html | 17:43 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2015/training_guides.2015-01-26-17.00.txt | 17:43 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2015/training_guides.2015-01-26-17.00.log.html | 17:44 |
ProgrammedToKill | why are all of the victims involved in cult type activities, organized crime, military-intelligence operations, etc. | 17:44 |
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ProgrammedToKill | human beings are so stupid | 17:45 |
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ProgrammedToKill | so manipulable | 17:45 |
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