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| rm_work | o/ | 13:58 |
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| jorgem | oye | 13:58 |
| sballe | Good morning/afternoon/evening :-) | 13:58 |
| blogan | \o/ | 13:59 |
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| evgenyf | Hello | 13:59 |
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| dougwig | o/ | 13:59 |
| jorgem | #startmeeting neutron lbaas | 13:59 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 14 13:59:22 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jorgem. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:59 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron lbaas)" | 13:59 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_lbaas' | 13:59 |
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| jorgem | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/LBaaS | 13:59 |
| dougwig | this meeting feels earlier every week. :) | 13:59 |
| blogan | yes it does | 13:59 |
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| sballe | jorgem, Can we add a quick update on the incubator thing I have been readign about o the ML to the agenda? Maybe mestery ca summarize | 14:00 |
| rm_work | yep :( | 14:00 |
| johnsom | +1 | 14:00 |
| sbalukoff | Morning! | 14:00 |
| jorgem | sure | 14:00 |
| sballe | s/can summarize | 14:00 |
| rm_work | poor sbalukoff / xgerman , 6am | 14:00 |
| xgerman | 7 am | 14:01 |
| jorgem | sballe: that's if mestery will be here | 14:01 |
| rm_work | ah whoops | 14:01 |
| xgerman | but still bad :-( | 14:01 |
| sballe | jorgem, I was confused when I read about it and just want to make sure i understand the rationale behind it as well as if it applies to us | 14:01 |
| rm_work | too early for math | 14:01 |
| blogan | sballe: it applies to us for shizzle | 14:01 |
| jorgem | why don't we start off with that then | 14:01 |
| jorgem | #topic Incubator Issue | 14:02 |
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| dougwig | anyone have the wiki link handy? | 14:02 |
| jorgem | I posted it | 14:02 |
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| jorgem | above ^^ | 14:02 |
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| dougwig | sorry,i meant the incubator wiki link. | 14:02 |
| dougwig | (not the etherpad) | 14:02 |
| blogan | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Incubator | 14:02 |
| dougwig | there it is. | 14:02 |
| dougwig | thanks | 14:02 |
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| jorgem | the floor is yours sballe | 14:03 |
| sbalukoff | Is mestery here? | 14:03 |
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| jorgem | sballe: I don't think so | 14:04 |
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| mestery | sbalukoff: o/ | 14:04 |
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| sbalukoff | Oh, hey! Yay! | 14:04 |
| mestery | sbalukoff: Howdy sir! | 14:04 |
| xgerman | mestery o/ | 14:04 |
| jorgem | oh snap! | 14:04 |
| sballe | jorgem, I need a recap on this. | 14:04 |
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| mestery | What can I do for you folks? | 14:04 |
| sballe | mestery, I am a little confuse by the incubator thing. Can you summarize it for us? | 14:05 |
| mestery | sballe: Yes! | 14:05 |
| johnsom | It sounds like FWaaS tanked the neutron test for a couple of days and sparked this off | 14:05 |
| sballe | Also will be grand-fathered in since we talked to yu earlier | 14:05 |
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| mestery | johnsom: There's more than that, it's also coming out of the GBP discussions. | 14:05 |
| sballe | This looked to me like yet another process to slow down progress | 14:06 |
| mestery | So, the idea is to take large changes which are proposing new APIs and give them a place to bake for a while. | 14:06 |
| sballe | and we were trying to increase velocity of LBaaS | 14:06 |
| mestery | The exit strategy for incubator is as follows: | 14:06 |
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| mestery | 1) Merge into neutron once ready. 2) Spin off into a separate project. 3) Die on the vine if developer interest wanes. | 14:06 |
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| * mestery summarizes a large wiki page in 2 sentences there. | 14:06 | |
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| * blogan corrects mestery. That was technically 3 sentences. | 14:07 | |
| sbalukoff | Haha | 14:07 |
| mestery | blogan: ha! :) | 14:07 |
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| sballe | mestery, What about our LBaaS new APIs? Aren't they already in Neutron? | 14:07 |
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| blogan | sballe: no they aren't, they haven't been merged in | 14:08 |
| sbalukoff | mestery: Can you also summarize the reason it's necessary? | 14:08 |
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| mestery | sballe: They are making their way in, yes. | 14:08 |
| xgerman | so no incubatore for them? | 14:08 |
| sbalukoff | mestery: In? Into incubator? Or into neutron core? | 14:08 |
| mestery | sbalukoff: We'd like to be able to iterate fast on some new things, nad the current process isn't allowing that. | 14:08 |
| * blogan is confused | 14:08 | |
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| sbalukoff | I'm really confused, too. | 14:08 |
| sballe | *sballe confused too | 14:08 |
| mestery | :) | 14:09 |
| * mestery is doing a poor job of explaining this. | 14:09 | |
| sballe | * sballe lol | 14:09 |
| sbalukoff | Ok, take your time. | 14:09 |
| blogan | im just confused by you saying the lbaas new api is on its way into neutron | 14:09 |
| xgerman | +1 | 14:09 |
| mestery | blogan: I just meant the patches are proposed, I think I worded it wrong :) | 14:09 |
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| blogan | mestery: ah okay | 14:09 |
| mestery | "on their way into neutron" == "patches proposed" | 14:09 |
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| sballe | mestery, but the new API should make it into Neutron. right? | 14:09 |
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| dougwig | sballe: the potential benefits are being separate but being covered both ways by neutron CI, presumably faster code review velocity, | 14:09 |
| dougwig | and still being able to import neutron directly and call its goo and use its db. | 14:09 |
| dougwig | sballe: the potential negatives are being neglected by neutron cores, or graduation hurdle being impossible in practice | 14:09 |
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| mestery | dougwig: Exactly, the graduation hurdle is my main concern, and we're discussing this aspect right now. | 14:10 |
| sbalukoff | mestery: I've got more concerns than just the graduation hurdle. But I'd like to get clarification on what sballe is asking first. | 14:11 |
| sballe | mestery, dougwig I am also worreid abotu neutron cores neglecting us. Sorry mestery | 14:11 |
| mestery | sballe: That is also my concern, and I've brought this up in the discussions. | 14:11 |
| sballe | From the website: The current core team for Neutron will initially be core team for the incubator. In the future, the team may decide to add incubator only cores if the need arises. | 14:11 |
| rm_work | yeah, it switches us from incremental changes over several months to monolithic merges all at once, don't see how that's good <_< | 14:11 |
| sballe | this is what worreis me. | 14:11 |
| mestery | These are legitimate concerns for sure. | 14:11 |
| sbalukoff | Are the patches presently propoposed going into neutron incubator, or are they "grandfathered in" to core? | 14:11 |
| mestery | rm_work: ++, that was the issue I raised as we were coming up with this as well. | 14:11 |
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| mestery | sbalukoff: That's the part we're still working on. | 14:12 |
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| dougwig | rm_work: well, it's monolithic both ways. we're just using gerrit chains as its own repo today. :) | 14:12 |
| sbalukoff | dougwig: +1 | 14:12 |
| rm_work | dougwig: heh, somewhat… though it's not QUITE as bad T_T | 14:12 |
| dougwig | and the chains has not been a pleasant way to iterate. | 14:12 |
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| mestery | dougwig: I know, the DVR folks would also agree :) | 14:13 |
| sballe | mestery, to me it is a mistery how you can have a new version of the LBaaS API in incubtor mode when Neutron LBaaS is not | 14:13 |
| blogan | dougwig: +10^100000 | 14:13 |
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| jorgem | mestery: In the mean time when will things be solidified (i.e date)? | 14:13 |
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| rm_work | it's got to be soon, right? code freeze is within a month | 14:14 |
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| mestery | jorgem: We're working to solidify the plan by next week. | 14:14 |
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| jorgem | mestery: I feel a nervous investor waiting for the monthly jobs report on WallStreet | 14:14 |
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| mestery | We spoke to packagers as well, and they seem keen on the idea of packaging this new git repository as well. | 14:14 |
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| sbalukoff | Heh! | 14:14 |
| mestery | jorgem: hahahahahah | 14:14 |
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| jorgem | mestery: At this point we just want certainty | 14:15 |
| sbalukoff | mestery: Where's the most appropriate place for us to talk about our concerns with incubator, and specifically how LBaaS is being affected by it? | 14:15 |
| mestery | jorgem: I hear you. | 14:15 |
| sbalukoff | (Hopefully prior to things being solidified.) | 14:16 |
| mestery | sbalukoff: Lets go with the mailing list, and the weekly Neutron meeting next week as well perhaps. | 14:16 |
| mestery | sbalukoff: Makes sense? | 14:16 |
| dougwig | it might be useful to step back and view the larger problems that are being looked at: 1) neutron MUST be stable in parts and move fast in others, and one repo makes that harder. 2) there isn't enough core bandwidth. | 14:16 |
| dougwig | obviously something has to change structurally. whether this is it, i don't know. maybe it's the same problems but with more process. maybe it screws the L7 guys a bit but helps focus l2/l3. | 14:16 |
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| sballe | mestery, can we go over each alternative for the LBaaS Apis? If they go into Neutron core then we are ok. What would happen if they go inot an incubator project? When would thye become official openstack project? | 14:16 |
| sballe | mestery, Was this the topic you suggested for the ML? I | 14:17 |
| mestery | sballe: The nice thing about incubator is that we could incubate them there, and then the team can move them to neutron during Kilo, or even just spin LBaaS out into it's project, which was originally what the team wanted. | 14:17 |
| rm_work | mestery: so spin-out is a real option for us from this? | 14:17 |
| rm_work | i did perk up a bit when you mentioned that above | 14:18 |
| xgerman | yeah, how does the "networking umbrella" relate to the incubator | 14:18 |
| rm_work | but didn't want to presume it would actually be possibly for us :) | 14:18 |
| mestery | rm_work: ++ | 14:18 |
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| mestery | xgerman: The incubator is under the networking umbrella, the spin out could be also under the networking umbrella, separate git repo/cores, etc. | 14:19 |
| blogan | rm_work: why would it be mentioned in the doc if it wasn't possible? | 14:19 |
| sballe | mestery, and separate core reviwers? ;-) | 14:19 |
| dougwig | sballe: if we force v2 into neutron today, to the community, it'll look like another half-done neutron api. if we incubate, and the graduation hurdle is a good faith thing (big IF, sorry mestery), then when we promote into neutron is presumably in our hands as to when things harden up, but wouldn't happen before a scalable octavia was in place. or in that | 14:19 |
| dougwig | timeframe, our hidden neutron hooks are addressed (maybe even by us), and oslo has more structure, and we spin out entirely. | 14:19 |
| rm_work | blogan: possible for US :P | 14:19 |
| mestery | sballe: ++ | 14:19 |
| * mestery thinks dougwig used to be a salesman | 14:19 | |
| mestery | But seriously, what dougwig is saying is spot on. | 14:20 |
| tmc3inphilly | why don't we focus on a stand-alone API for LBaaS and cut to the chase? | 14:20 |
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| rm_work | tmc3inphilly ++ | 14:20 |
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| dougwig | mestery: i am the worst salesman in the world, believe me. :) | 14:20 |
| rm_work | can we just re-focus on the spin-out from the beginning then? | 14:20 |
| xgerman | tmc3inphilly - there are also vendors we need to consider | 14:20 |
| blogan | tcm3inphilly: we shouldn't focus on a stand-alone just yet, just let this mature and the people involved in Octavia should focus on Octavia | 14:20 |
| sballe | mestery, so are you sayign that the incubated project are "openstack" blessed project. | 14:20 |
| mestery | sballe: Yes! We will release the incubator repository, and distros will package it (maybe as experimental or something) | 14:21 |
| sballe | so instead of developing it in stackforge (non openstack) they are now part of the opesntack umbrella of projects? | 14:21 |
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| mestery | blogan: ++ | 14:21 |
| mestery | sballe: Yes, exactly. | 14:21 |
| dougwig | tmc3inphilly: the biggest counter-argument is the hidden interfaces we rely on. the incubator (or neutron) isn't a bad place to live until those are ironed out, and CI can keep us from getting broken. i'm thinking fixing that adds one cycle, at least. | 14:21 |
| mestery | It's not a stackforge thing, which I know you folks had some issues with in the past. | 14:21 |
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| mestery | The incubator allows for full CI to be worked on quickly as well (e.g. tempest), CLI, horizon, etc. All that can be done quickly and be ready for merge when the incubated projects are deemed ready. | 14:22 |
| sballe | mestery, so who will be able to decide to move from incubation to the next step? is that the same process as other projects e.g. gant, designate, etc.. | 14:22 |
| mestery | It's what dougwig indicated earlier: Stability in the core, fast iterations on the edges. | 14:22 |
| mestery | sballe: I think it's documented in there (at least what we have so far), but projects can propose their own "graduation" into neutron core or spin-out | 14:22 |
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| sballe | mestery, ok thanks. | 14:23 |
| mestery | sballe: This is 100% a part of OpenStack releases, it's not a standalone stackforge thing | 14:23 |
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| blogan | mestery: will any advanced serviecs that are already in tree be pulled out into the incubator? | 14:23 |
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| sbalukoff | blogan: +1 | 14:23 |
| sballe | mestery, we are now running into the issues you and Mark pointed out when you didn;t want us to split from Neutron. | 14:23 |
| * mestery watches blogan open a can of worms. | 14:23 | |
| sbalukoff | I'd love to see Neutron LBaaS v1 pulled into incubator. | 14:23 |
| mestery | blogan: It's under discussion. | 14:23 |
| mestery | sbalukoff: ++ | 14:24 |
| rm_work | sbalukoff / blogan ++ | 14:24 |
| sballe | namely how do make sure Neutron doesn't change APIs from under us | 14:24 |
| sbalukoff | Since I don't think, today, it would qualify for graduation. ;) | 14:24 |
| mestery | sballe: :) | 14:24 |
| mestery | sballe: The circle of life | 14:24 |
| sballe | mestery, :) Remember that ad-hoc meeting in Atlanta :) | 14:24 |
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| mestery | sballe: I do, it had larger attendance than some design summit sessions :) | 14:25 |
| xgerman | :-) | 14:25 |
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| juliancash | group hug | 14:25 |
| dougwig | sballe; my read of the incubator CI is that it's shared with neutron's, and neutron jenkins will fail if neutron core yanks something that the incubators rely on. | 14:25 |
| mestery | juliancash: Hey, great to see you man! | 14:25 |
| sbalukoff | mestery and sballe: Yes, indeed. I suspect you're going to see a lot of enthusiasm switching over to Octavia in a hurry if LBaaS ends up in incubator. | 14:25 |
| sbalukoff | Well, that might happen in any case. :/ | 14:25 |
| sballe | mestery, so getting back to my concern. By splitting the project we run the risk that APIs get changed from under us so we are no longer compatible or have to do fancy upgrade trategies | 14:26 |
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| mestery | sballe: The incubator will prevent that. We'll be running cross-tempest tests to ensure that won't happen. | 14:26 |
| sballe | mestery, ok | 14:26 |
| mestery | sballe: That will prevent these types of failures while things are there. | 14:26 |
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| mestery | So, I didn't mean to steal 30 minutes of your meeting today :) | 14:27 |
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| jorgem | mestery: Is there going to be one repository for all incubated projects or separate repos for each project? | 14:27 |
| * markmcclain has lots of reading to do | 14:27 | |
| mestery | jorgem: One repository | 14:27 |
| sbalukoff | Hi Mark! | 14:27 |
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| markmcclain | sbalukoff: hi | 14:28 |
| sbalukoff | mestery: So... projects in incubation can easily step on each other's toed. | 14:28 |
| sbalukoff | toes. | 14:28 |
| sballe | mestery, why one for all projects | 14:28 |
| blogan | sbalukoff: that can happen now with them being in tree | 14:28 |
| mestery | blogan: ++ | 14:28 |
| sballe | mestery, it would make more sense with one per project | 14:28 |
| sbalukoff | sballe: +1 | 14:28 |
| mestery | The logistics of one per project are higher, we're modeling this after oslo.incubator as well | 14:28 |
| markmcclain | mestery: ++ | 14:29 |
| * sballe has to do some catching up on oslo.incubator | 14:29 | |
| jorgem | i still don't know how higher velocity at the "edges" will happen if we don't add more +2ers to the incubated project. | 14:29 |
| dougwig | sballe: neutron + incubator is, logically speaking, still just one repo. that it's two git repos is a function of only part of it being in the mainline shipped package. | 14:29 |
| rm_work | so how is neutron-incubator going to be kept in sync with neutron-main? | 14:30 |
| sbalukoff | mestery and markmcclain: Realistically speaking, if it's up to neutron core devs to do code merges in incubator as well as the "core" neutron project: What is your strategy for taking on this additional load without starving one project or the other? | 14:30 |
| mestery | jorgem: I hear you, and that was my other concern with incubator | 14:30 |
| rm_work | i guess i should also look at the oslo-incubator model | 14:30 |
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| jorgem | mestery: I understand you hear me, but what's the plan? | 14:30 |
| markmcclain | sbalukoff: good question… ideally the load will decrease | 14:30 |
| sballe | sbalukoff, +1 | 14:30 |
| mestery | sbalukoff: One idea I had was to allow one "core" per incubated project for the incubator itself. This would only then require one non-incubator core per preojct. | 14:30 |
| rm_work | markmcclain: how would load decrease with faster changes? >_> | 14:31 |
| markmcclain | right now since we require large features to merge nearly in one unit the patch series gets really really long | 14:31 |
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| markmcclain | so the incubator will allow you to land partial implementations | 14:31 |
| dougwig | the more non-core reviewers, the harder graduation. | 14:31 |
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| markmcclain | which should be smaller patches | 14:31 |
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| rm_work | yeah, but that means a higher review-count overall | 14:31 |
| rm_work | and there's overhead there just for a review existing | 14:32 |
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| markmcclain | small reviews are much easier to get done.. lots of folks will avoid ones that more than 2 cups of coffee :) | 14:32 |
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| sballe | ok I am a little confused about this repo thing. Let's say I only want LBaaS and not some other incubated project. That doesn't sound possible | 14:32 |
| dougwig | presumably, the reviews are easier, because there are a host of things that don't have to be worried about until graduation: is this thing fully working, is 3rd party CI fully in place, ... it's more of just, "does this code look reasonable", as opposed to "does the entire big picture work, and is it perfect". those are two very different review standards. | 14:32 |
| dougwig | please correct me if i'm guessing wrong. | 14:33 |
| mestery | dougwig: ++ | 14:33 |
| markmcclain | sballe: so you install the library for the incubator and then activate the features you want | 14:33 |
| sbalukoff | Also, with no set deadlines in incubator (which is generally good), this means that work with deadlines attached (eg. unified OpenStack release deadlines) is naturally going to get prioritized over that. So with a team with already too much work, I would expect incubator to get starved. | 14:33 |
| markmcclain | dougwig: +1 | 14:33 |
| sballe | markmcclain, ok I am perfect world | 14:33 |
| xgerman | sbalukoff +1 | 14:33 |
| dougwig | sballe: neutron today is one big repo, and you activate the parts you want. | 14:34 |
| markmcclain | sbalukoff: actually you get more attention at points in teh cycle when the integrated release forces us to be quiet and not merge code | 14:34 |
| mestery | And since it's an incubator, as dougwig says, the hope is we can merge thigns which are not 100% complete. | 14:34 |
| blogan | sbalukoff: that also means that when code freezes happens the incubator is not subjeted to that and reviewers should have time | 14:34 |
| sballe | dougwig, I understand. | 14:34 |
| mestery | With the expectation they are on their way to completion | 14:34 |
| mestery | Iterate fast | 14:34 |
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| mestery | blogan: ++ | 14:34 |
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| ptoohill | I see a rush at the end having to ho back and re review everything's working since we let small syntactically correct commits in. | 14:35 |
| tmc3inphilly | blogan: -1 | 14:35 |
| ptoohill | Go* | 14:35 |
| sbalukoff | Are reviewers sitting on their thumbs when code freezes happens, right now? | 14:35 |
| sbalukoff | I suspect there's plenty to occupy their time then, too. :/ | 14:35 |
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| blogan | sbalukoff: could be, i'm just saying its possible this will work, and its possible it won't | 14:36 |
| dougwig | ptoohill: i didn't mean to imply that crap reviews are let in. just that blogan's first patch could've been approved in early july, e.g., and if it had minor issues that were discovered later, and second patch could been done and gone in, instead of everything waiting. i hope. | 14:36 |
| sbalukoff | I'm very skeptical that it's going to work. :/ | 14:36 |
| jorgem | blogan: That uncertainty is what worries me | 14:36 |
| rm_work | also very skeptical <_< | 14:36 |
| sbalukoff | Or result in increased velocity at all. | 14:36 |
| jorgem | blogan: The ideas look good on paper, it's about executing it right. | 14:36 |
| sballe | I am wtill worried taht neutron core will take precedence over incubator projects and we won;t gain any velocity. | 14:36 |
| xgerman | sballe +1 | 14:37 |
| sbalukoff | sballe: Or rather, lose what little velocity we have. :/ | 14:37 |
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| markmcclain | I actually think you'll get more | 14:37 |
| rm_work | it's just hard for me to see how "reducing the commit requirements up front" will save us time down the road | 14:37 |
| xgerman | can we get on of us promoted to incubator core quickly? | 14:37 |
| sballe | sbalukoff, +1 | 14:37 |
| xgerman | that might help with velocity | 14:37 |
| sbalukoff | So.... let me be frank. | 14:38 |
| dougwig | rm_work: it basically lets us assemble and iterate on the gerrit chains in one place. right now, collaboration is much harder. | 14:38 |
| sbalukoff | My mind keeps going back to that impromptu meeting in Atlanta. | 14:38 |
| ptoohill | Dougwig, understood. But without cohesive units of code I don't see 'smaller' commits being that much more beneficial then sitting through a 'large' one | 14:38 |
| rm_work | I guess I have just gotten used to the chains ;P | 14:38 |
| TrevorV | There will be the potential for partial commits, granted, that's a good thing. However, we still have only what, 2 windows of time in the year where we're expected Core Reviewer attention? That doesn't seem like high velocity. | 14:38 |
| mestery | At the end of the day, we're trying to maintain waht stability the team has worked hard to build up during the previous releases, while allow for new things to grow and find their way into neutron. | 14:38 |
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| mestery | It's a tough balance, and we may get somethings wrong, but we'll revisti what doesn't work and make adjustements as we go. | 14:38 |
| sbalukoff | You know, the one where I told y'all that along with the trust you were looking for from us (to be able to write good code), that we didn't presently trust neutron core devs to be able to deliver... | 14:39 |
| sballe | mestery, I undertsnad hwat you are saying we just have deliverables that need to amke it into our products and all this is not allowing us to make progress | 14:39 |
| rm_work | dougwig: yeah, but then thing thing that's assembled still has to go through the more stringent review process at the end, since there's no guarantee it's full up-to-par, so we're back at the same place we were originally it seems, as far as reviewer bandwidth goes (maybe it does help with dev) | 14:39 |
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| sbalukoff | If the LBaaS changes presently under review end up in incubator (which it looks very likely they will be, since every time incubator is mentioned, LBaaS is mentioned as a "prime candidate" for inclusion there)... | 14:39 |
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| sbalukoff | That basically means I was right: That we couldn't trust y'all to help us get the LBaaS v2 stuff into Juno. :/ | 14:40 |
| mestery | rm_work: If that happens, then we've failed at this, I agree. I don't want to see that happen. | 14:40 |
| sbalukoff | Which makes me, for one, less inclined to trust what you're saying about neutron incubator. | 14:40 |
| sbalukoff | So... | 14:40 |
| sbalukoff | To me that means we should push for spin-out earlier. | 14:40 |
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| sbalukoff | So that we can stop dealing with this nonsense. :P | 14:41 |
| dougwig | rm_work: only if we lack core involvement throughout, in which case we're doomed to get into neutron anyway. | 14:41 |
| rm_work | yeah, i think the possibility of just going straight from incubator to our own project is the most promising thing to come out of this from my perspective :P | 14:41 |
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| sballe | mestery, I agree with sbalukoff. You and Mark some promises to help us increase velocity for LBaaS and we are now down in a rat hole | 14:41 |
| xgerman | if we want to do that we can skip the incubator IHMO | 14:41 |
| sbalukoff | Now, I think I understand why incubator is being invented. | 14:41 |
| sbalukoff | And it's honestly probably the right way to go-- I wish it had been in place a yaer ago. | 14:41 |
| tmc3inphilly | the best part is we have to tell our upper managment teams that v2 will not be in Juno as we had planned and that we have no idea of when/where it will land | 14:42 |
| markmcclain | well sballe that rat hole is a function of requiring full features to merge in master | 14:42 |
| sbalukoff | But, that doesn't change how things have gone for us over the last few months. :P | 14:42 |
| mestery | sballe sbalukoff: I'm sorry you feel this way, and it's not our intention to do this at all. | 14:42 |
| markmcclain | the 5k loc that blogan is carrying would have been merged in the incubator system | 14:42 |
| xgerman | understood. We all think the incubator is a great idea we are just concerned about the timing | 14:43 |
| xgerman | hence we like to be grandfathered to make our deadlines... | 14:43 |
| sballe | xgerman, +1 | 14:43 |
| sbalukoff | And so that we can tell our bosses that the work we've been doing for months isn't completely wasted. | 14:44 |
| TrevorV | markmcclain, the code would have been merged, sure, but our desire to have it all in Juno was moot since we'd be waiting for core reviewer attention until Juno code freeze. | 14:44 |
| dougwig | xgerman: well, the incubator is a great idea if it's done in good faith, and trust is a little shaken right now, so that's a harder pill to swallow. | 14:44 |
| sbalukoff | That sort of helps with being able to commit to more work on the project in the future. | 14:44 |
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| TrevorV | I'm gonna shoot myself in the foot here, and say the incubator doesn't need to exist. It doesn't make sense. Neutron as a code base is too saturated as it is today, and making a more massive code base, no matter how slowly, doesn't solve the problem of it being too fat to handle with its number of core reviewers. | 14:45 |
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| sbalukoff | Well... | 14:46 |
| * mestery notes his email about ripping 30k+ lines of code out of neutron by removing all plkugins and drivers | 14:46 | |
| johnsom | xgerman Agreed. Maybe move the "experimental" projects first and let us land in Juno | 14:46 |
| sbalukoff | Ultimately I feel like neutron should be one compoenent in a "networking" project. | 14:46 |
| mestery | To me, that's the real root of the problem. | 14:46 |
| mestery | But I digress. | 14:46 |
| sbalukoff | A component that handles layer-2 and layer-3 stuff. | 14:46 |
| markmcclain | TrevorV: that is a separate issue as mestery points out on the list to tackle | 14:46 |
| sbalukoff | And that the advanced services stuff should just be other sub-projects of networking. | 14:46 |
| xgerman | I juts got up for that meeting | 14:46 |
| sbalukoff | Sort of on equal footing with Neutron in this case. | 14:46 |
| xgerman | no list reading yet | 14:47 |
| markmcclain | also remember the incubator makes it easier for us to spin out projects | 14:47 |
| dougwig | mestery: did i miss that email? when/where? | 14:47 |
| sbalukoff | It also limits the scope of Neutron to something more manageable and well-defined. | 14:47 |
| mestery | dougwig: This morning, at least I thought I sent it. | 14:47 |
| markmcclain | oslo has a well established way of bootstrapping new projects | 14:47 |
| mestery | dougwig: It was a reply to Salvatore | 14:47 |
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| xgerman | markmcclain spinning out != Open Stack project | 14:47 |
| blogan | johnsom: i would actually argue that v2 is fairly experimental | 14:47 |
| markmcclain | xgerman: actually it can | 14:47 |
| xgerman | so you would spin into the OpoenStack incubator? | 14:48 |
| dougwig | mestery: found it, thanks. :) | 14:48 |
| rm_work | xgerman: i thought he just meant spinning out of Neutron… so we could actually spin-out to Openstack-LBaaS | 14:48 |
| sbalukoff | blogan: Agreed. | 14:48 |
| markmcclain | oslo spins out projects frequently and those are part of OpenStack and participate in release | 14:48 |
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| sballe | xgerman that is what mestery said earlier spin out == incubator openstack project | 14:48 |
| xgerman | so they don't have an OpenStack incubation requirement | 14:48 |
| markmcclain | xgerman: yes we can move things into too (oslo has done so with several libs) | 14:48 |
| dougwig | blogan: +1 | 14:49 |
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| blogan | if we agree v2 is experiemental, and this incubator is godo for experiemental extensions/features, then this is the right place for it to go. But there is that trust factor that got shaken | 14:49 |
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| dougwig | +1 again. don't make a habit of this. | 14:50 |
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| sballe | blogan, +1 | 14:50 |
| TrevorV | markmcclain, I'm sorry but I fail to see the disconnect in the issues. The problem we're having here is a direct extension of a bloated code base and lack of core reviewers. Why not fix the root of the problem? | 14:50 |
| mestery | I'm sorry people feel like their trust has been misused, that was never anyone's intention here. | 14:50 |
| sbalukoff | blogan is far too nice. | 14:50 |
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| sbalukoff | And I'm far too much of an asshole | 14:50 |
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| markmcclain | TrevorV: these things take time | 14:50 |
| mestery | sbalukoff: Balance in the force. | 14:50 |
| sbalukoff | Haha | 14:50 |
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| dougwig | sbalukoff: +1 on both! :) | 14:51 |
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| dougwig | 9 minutes | 14:51 |
| sbalukoff | blogan is right that incubator is probably the way to go. | 14:51 |
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| sbalukoff | But I do feel like LBaaS has been held up as a human shield in the battle between neutron core devs and the people behind GBP. :P | 14:52 |
| blogan | good thing I'm a good human shield, ill stand in front | 14:52 |
| sbalukoff | Haha! | 14:52 |
| blogan | ive got lots of mass | 14:52 |
| sbalukoff | Yeah, I'm pretty meaty. | 14:52 |
| blogan | meat shield! | 14:52 |
| mestery | sbalukoff: Don't forget FWaaS, root wrap, tap as a service, etc. | 14:52 |
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| * mestery has a long list of these things | 14:53 | |
| sbalukoff | mestery: So, there are lots of casualties. | 14:53 |
| xgerman | lot's of shields... | 14:53 |
| sbalukoff | I don't think that helps your case. ;) | 14:53 |
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| mestery | many shields | 14:53 |
| sbalukoff | *sigh* | 14:53 |
| mestery | :) | 14:53 |
| * mestery has taken many bullets this cycle. | 14:53 | |
| mestery | I've run out of asbestos suits to be honest. | 14:54 |
| sbalukoff | Yeah, it's been a tough cycle. | 14:54 |
| sballe | ok how do we move forward here? | 14:54 |
| jorgem | we work on Octavia until the dust settles | 14:54 |
| rm_work | BTW, do we actually have any other agenda items? or is this basically it for us, for this meeting? (since we lose all of our velocity at this point) | 14:54 |
| tmc3inphilly | mestery: isn't that in the job description? :-) | 14:54 |
| markmcclain | I'm likely to have to patches ready for incubator ready today | 14:54 |
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| mestery | I believe markmcclain has patches almost ready for incubator | 14:54 |
| sballe | mestery, when will you know more about the incubator project? | 14:54 |
| mestery | markmcclain: perfect timing | 14:54 |
| sbalukoff | jorgem: +1 | 14:54 |
| dougwig | jorgem: +1 | 14:54 |
| markmcclain | and we can work to get code merge there fairly quickly | 14:55 |
| dougwig | let's not lose focus on process and glue crap. that can all wait. | 14:55 |
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| blogan | rm_work: if it gets into the incubator, i dont' see how we lost velocity | 14:55 |
| sballe | jorgem, =1 | 14:55 |
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| rm_work | blogan: we've lost velocity for this week, since there is no incubator yet :P | 14:55 |
| blogan | hell if this dependency chain goes away bc it got into the incubator, and no more accidental rebases happen, that'd be great | 14:55 |
| crc32 | jorgem >=1 | 14:55 |
| jorgem | one thing I'd like to ask, can we not be the test subjects for this??? | 14:55 |
| rm_work | so basically we work on other stuff until incubator happens | 14:55 |
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| jorgem | I'd like to focus on Octavia while the intricacies are figured out | 14:56 |
| mestery | jorgem: Sure, I think GBP is a meatier candidate for being the test subject. | 14:56 |
| jorgem | mestery: good | 14:56 |
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| blogan | rm_work: that wast he plan all along anwyay, work on Octavia after it gets into Juno. Juno is now just the incubator | 14:56 |
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| dougwig | jk | 14:56 |
| sballe | mestery, +1 Go GBP :) | 14:56 |
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| rm_work | blogan: yeah, just saying we're blocked for this week at least, until incubator gets figured out | 14:57 |
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| * TrevorV carries the extra ammo for dougwig | 14:57 | |
| mestery | Incubator will be up by tomorrow I think. | 14:57 |
| * TrevorV is also jk | 14:57 | |
| rm_work | so i guess we don't have anything else for the meeting | 14:57 |
| jorgem | mestery: Thanks, due to deadlines we all thought we had any more distractions would look bad on our part when we bering this up to our upper management | 14:57 |
| blogan | rm_work: code can still be created, reviews too, they'll just be moved to the incubator | 14:57 |
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| sballe | jorgem, +1 | 14:57 |
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| dougwig | 1 minute. | 14:58 |
| * mestery thinks dougwig is a stopwatch automaton. | 14:58 | |
| sbalukoff | He's totally a bot. | 14:58 |
| * TrevorV thinks mestery is right | 14:58 | |
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| rm_work | mestery: if the incubator is up by tomorrow, that implies the time for discussion about it was actually over before now, btw… wish that had been mentioned :P | 14:58 |
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| mestery | rm_work: Valid and fair point. | 14:59 |
| * mestery reboots dougwig. | 14:59 | |
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| rm_work | could probably have saved some breath, lol | 14:59 |
| rm_work | ah wel | 14:59 |
| sbalukoff | Heh | 14:59 |
| vjay | +1 | 14:59 |
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| sbalukoff | Well, at least we got to voice our grievances here. :P | 14:59 |
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| sbalukoff | Even if there's nothing that can be done about them now. | 14:59 |
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| rm_work | yay whining! :) | 15:00 |
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| TrevorV | sbalukoff, venting session complete? | 15:00 |
| sbalukoff | Haha | 15:00 |
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| sballe | lol | 15:00 |
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| mestery | rm_work: Cheese for breakfast? | 15:00 |
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| sbalukoff | Well, thanks y'all! | 15:00 |
| jorgem | okay meetings over. See you guys on the other channel. | 15:00 |
| TrevorV | rm_work, you ARE cheese. | 15:00 |
| rm_work | always enjoy some cheese with a good whine | 15:00 |
| jorgem | thanks! | 15:00 |
| * mestery goes to get some coffee | 15:00 | |
| vjay | thanks! | 15:00 |
| xgerman | thanks | 15:00 |
| sballe | bye :-) | 15:00 |
| jorgem | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
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| TrevorV | mestery, he's associating "cheese and whine" | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 14 15:00:38 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_lbaas/2014/neutron_lbaas.2014-08-14-13.59.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_lbaas/2014/neutron_lbaas.2014-08-14-13.59.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_lbaas/2014/neutron_lbaas.2014-08-14-13.59.log.html | 15:00 |
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| TrevorV | o/ | 15:00 |
| rm_work | lol thanks TrevorV >_> | 15:00 |
| dougwig | o/ | 15:00 |
| eglynn | #startmeeting ceilometer | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 14 15:00:54 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is eglynn. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| ddieterly | o/ | 15:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ceilometer' | 15:01 |
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| DinaBelova | o/ | 15:01 |
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| eglynn | hi y'all! | 15:01 |
| dhellmann | o/ | 15:01 |
| eglynn | #topic Juno-3 planning | 15:01 |
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| fabiog | o/ | 15:01 |
| eglynn | can we do a quick round-table on the high/medium proirity BP status? | 15:01 |
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| eglynn | #link https://launchpad.net/ceilometer/+milestone/juno-3 | 15:02 |
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| eglynn | ildikov and I discussed discussed dispatcher-for-gnocchi-integration earlier | 15:02 |
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| eglynn | conclusion was to bump this off the juno-3 slate because | 15:02 |
| eglynn | .. dispatcher code will land in stackforge/gnocchi as opposed to the openstack/ceilo repo | 15:02 |
| eglynn | ... also gnocchi is still decoupled from the main release cycle, so juno-3 is not a drop-dead date | 15:03 |
| eglynn | ildikov_: that pretty much sums it up, amiright? | 15:03 |
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| ildikov_ | eglynn: yeap, I think you told everything | 15:03 |
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| eglynn | ildikov_: cool, thanks! | 15:03 |
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| eglynn | gordc: how's it going with bigger-data-sql? | 15:04 |
| ildikov_ | eglynn: /me thanks for the quick summary | 15:04 |
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| eglynn | cdent: have you got any interesting detail on bigger-data-sql? | 15:05 |
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| cdent | Nothing huge to add, other than that discussion we had about the tests maybe being too biased in the mongo direction, resulting in some SQL that is painful | 15:05 |
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| cdent | We'll want to decide whether we should do anything about that. | 15:06 |
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| eglynn | on the multi-source/user/project aspect per resource? | 15:06 |
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| eglynn | k, no need to go into that now I guess | 15:08 |
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| eglynn | nsaje: central-agent-partitioning is looking pretty good at this stage, amiright? | 15:08 |
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| nsaje | eglynn: yep | 15:08 |
| cdent | nsaje++ | 15:08 |
| eglynn | cool :) | 15:08 |
| cdent | me likely that code | 15:08 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, yes, that's much progress | 15:08 |
| nsaje | everyone: needs code review :-) | 15:08 |
| cdent | likey | 15:08 |
| DinaBelova | nsaje, np :) | 15:08 |
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| eglynn | llu: all good with snmp-improvement? | 15:08 |
| eglynn | llu: (other than the need for review attention I guess) | 15:09 |
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| eglynn | ok llu might not be on, we can follow up on that tmrw morning | 15:09 |
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| eglynn | nealph: what about paas-event-format-for-ceilometer? | 15:09 |
| nealph | eglynn: work is progressing. Other than sphinx/tox install issues, there are no blockers. | 15:10 |
| nealph | On that...my sense is that everyone has similar issues with building docs, yes? | 15:10 |
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| nsaje | nealph: what issues are you having? | 15:10 |
| ildikov_ | nealph: I can try to help you | 15:10 |
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| eglynn | nealph: excellent :) | 15:11 |
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| eglynn | ildikov_: thanks! | 15:11 |
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| nealph | dependencies...thanks ldikov_! | 15:11 |
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| eglynn | prad: around? | 15:11 |
| ildikov_ | nealph: I spent some time with fixing some Sphinx stuff earlier, let's see if I still remember those things :) | 15:11 |
| DinaBelova | nealph, please share your problems :) | 15:11 |
| prad | eglynn, hello | 15:11 |
| DinaBelova | nealph, we can help you | 15:11 |
| eglynn | prad: lots of discussion on the meter names for instance-per-disk-measurement ... headed for consenus, do you think? | 15:11 |
| nealph | DinaBelova: :) | 15:11 |
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| prad | eglynn, yes, i think we're close.. addressed most concerns in the latest patch.. once we come to agreement on resource naming in the docs we should be good to go i think | 15:12 |
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| eglynn | prad: excellent, thanks! :) | 15:12 |
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| eglynn | cdent: grenade-resource-survivability seem to have gotten over the ceilo service start-order hump in devstack, nicely back on track | 15:13 |
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| _nadya_ | eglynn, prad, no more questions from my side about this patch (naming in docs doesn't seem too hard to manage with :) ) | 15:13 |
| cdent | That's right. With that devstack fix in place I should be able to tweak up the javelin2 changes, in line with the refactoring you suggested, and get that put to bed. | 15:13 |
| eglynn | cdent: cool, have the QA folks given any indication of javelin being "re-opened for new features"? | 15:14 |
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| cdent | there's fairly continuous work on it, with various tiny changes being merged all the time | 15:14 |
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| cdent | so I'd give tentative "yes" on that, or at least "rsn" | 15:15 |
| eglynn | cdent: cool | 15:15 |
| eglynn | for taskflow-alarm-partitioning, I think we're gonna rebase this on the nsaje's new tooz-based parititioning scheme | 15:15 |
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| cdent | blissful ignorance++ | 15:16 |
| DinaBelova | nsaje, btw, how're you testing your tooz-based central agent HA ? | 15:16 |
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| DinaBelova | I mean, did you try some scenarios on how to test its workability | 15:16 |
| DinaBelova | ? | 15:16 |
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| nsaje | DinaBelova: not yet, currently it's still theoretical :) | 15:17 |
| DinaBelova | nsaje, a-ha, okay | 15:17 |
| nsaje | DinaBelova: but if tooz holds its end of the bargain, it should work | 15:17 |
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| DinaBelova | idegtiarov is currently working on preparing the env to test it | 15:17 |
| DinaBelova | nsaje ^^ | 15:17 |
| nsaje | DinaBelova: that's amazing | 15:17 |
| nsaje | DinaBelova: yeah, I didn't have time to prepare a test env yet, busy coding ;) | 15:18 |
| eglynn | nsaje: the difficulty with testing is the lack of ZK packages? | 15:18 |
| DinaBelova | because actually we need zookeeper in HA + multiple central agents + some scenarios, etc. | 15:18 |
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| DinaBelova | like we kill this process, what happens next and now to ensure it actually works | 15:18 |
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| eglynn | DinaBelova: yep, agreed | 15:18 |
| nsaje | eglynn: yes, but we can also use memcached | 15:18 |
| eglynn | nsaje: cool, that would be a useful confirmation of the approach | 15:19 |
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| DinaBelova | nsaje, we can, but ZK seems to be more preferable solution imho | 15:19 |
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| DinaBelova | but anyway :) | 15:19 |
| eglynn | yep, from what jd__ said at mid-cycle the tooz ZK driver is definitely prefered for production | 15:20 |
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| nsaje | DinaBelova: perhaps, but we're using tooz in quite a light-weight fashion so I don't think memcached would present a problem (this is pure speculation, mind) | 15:20 |
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| DinaBelova | nsaje, yeah, probably, I just try to think what I'd love to see in prodaction possibly | 15:20 |
| DinaBelova | production* | 15:20 |
| DinaBelova | that's just some thoughts about that :) | 15:21 |
| nsaje | DinaBelova: if you guys get a test env up, you could test memcached vs zookeeper as well :) | 15:21 |
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| DinaBelova | nsaje, yeah, we are in progress, let's see what can we reach this week and early next one | 15:21 |
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| eglynn | yeah, that would be a useful comparison point | 15:21 |
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| eglynn | anhyhoo, shall we move onto Tempest? (not that we're talking about testing) | 15:22 |
| eglynn | #topic Tempest status | 15:22 |
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| DinaBelova | :) | 15:22 |
| eglynn | DinaBelova: I saw your os-infra/config patch on the mongodb job, cool :) | 15:22 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, yeah :) | 15:23 |
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| DinaBelova | I guess we may try it | 15:23 |
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| DinaBelova | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/114208/ | 15:23 |
| DinaBelova | for others: that's change to make MongoDB job not experimental but usual non-voting check | 15:24 |
| DinaBelova | so that'll allow us in future to have both SQL and MOngo tested in the gate for all the changes | 15:24 |
| DinaBelova | as for the Tempest tests itself | 15:24 |
| DinaBelova | we're blocked really https://review.openstack.org/#/q/owner:%22Vadim+Rovachev+%253Cvrovachev%2540mirantis.com%253E%22+project:openstack/tempest+status:open,n,z | 15:24 |
| eglynn | one useful thing to test might be unskipping the nova-notification test and seeing if it passed regularly against the mongo job | 15:25 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, oh, yeah, that's a good point | 15:25 |
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| eglynn | i.e. to see if the notification-test issues can be pinned down to sql-a perf | 15:25 |
| DinaBelova | because if so, we'll unblock in some way other changes | 15:25 |
| DinaBelova | okay, let me do that :) | 15:25 |
| DinaBelova | and try :) | 15:25 |
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| eglynn | DinaBelova: cool, thanks! | 15:25 |
| eglynn | anything else on Tempest? | 15:25 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, I guess no actually | 15:26 |
| eglynn | #topic TSDaaS/gnocchi status | 15:26 |
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| eglynn | jd__: anything to report from your side? | 15:26 |
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| eglynn | there was some activity on that ML thread | 15:27 |
| eglynn | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-August/042080.html | 15:27 |
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| jd__ | not much, I've just started to work on the archive policy | 15:27 |
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| jd__ | and I'm writing an article about Gnocchi in general also to have something for people to read about and understand | 15:27 |
| eglynn | jd__: thanks, that blog post will be really useful I think to spread the word :) | 15:28 |
| dhellmann | are you planning to include more details about why starting something new was better than the existing options? that's been a topic of interest lately, and I'd like to get in front of it before there are issues | 15:28 |
| DinaBelova | jd__, that's really nice, thanks :) | 15:28 |
| jd__ | dhellmann: yes | 15:28 |
| dhellmann | great | 15:28 |
| eglynn | BTW I gave the pitch to the TC on gnocchi on Tuesday last | 15:28 |
| eglynn | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tc/2014/tc.2014-08-12-20.02.log.html#l-408 | 15:28 |
| eglynn | ^^^ that included some background questions on why whisper/carbon was considered unsuitable | 15:29 |
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| eglynn | ... that jd__'s article will address | 15:29 |
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| eglynn | cool | 15:29 |
| DinaBelova | and why does ceilo team is reinventing time-series DB :) | 15:29 |
| eglynn | DinaBelova: ... and that too :) | 15:30 |
| DinaBelova | :D | 15:30 |
| eglynn | ... a serious outbreak of NIH syndrome has afflicted us all ;) | 15:30 |
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| eglynn | anything else on gnocchi, or shall we move on? | 15:30 |
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| eglynn | #topic Future of the integrated release ML thread | 15:31 |
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| eglynn | k, so there's a lot of discussion about disparate "how to fix the future" topics on that thread | 15:31 |
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| eglynn | but some of it has focused in on the integration status of ceilometer | 15:32 |
| eglynn | e.g. http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-August/042920.html | 15:32 |
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| eglynn | and http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-August/042962.html | 15:32 |
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| DinaBelova | a-ha, I see | 15:33 |
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| eglynn | obviously I'm presenting the case for ceilometer, and will continue to fight that corner | 15:33 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, thank you sir | 15:33 |
| eglynn | the discussion will continue, I believe the TC are planning a couple of extra meetings over the coming days | 15:34 |
| cdent | I reckon fighting that aspect is a bit of a red herring. | 15:34 |
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| dhellmann | cdent: no, it's quite serious | 15:34 |
| eglynn | cdent: which aspect is a red herring, d'ya think? | 15:34 |
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| cdent | Well, apparently I'm wrong, but I would have thought that it would be _very_ hard to de-graduate something with demonstrated numerous deployments. | 15:35 |
| DinaBelova | cdent, not so hard as you think I guess | 15:35 |
| cdent | And that that data ought to stand on its own merits and talking about it just feeds the trolls. | 15:36 |
| dhellmann | cdent: a vocal minority of the TC does not currently believe ceilometer should remain integrated | 15:36 |
| dhellmann | if we have deployment info, we need to make sure that's public | 15:36 |
| * dhellmann hasn't read the ML yet this morning | 15:36 | |
| cdent | It ought at least to be a different thread. | 15:36 |
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| cdent | And it would be good if the TC (and the vocal minority) was a bit more transparent :) | 15:36 |
| eglynn | cdent: part of the problem is that the argument has involved shifting of the goalposts (... and may well continue to do so) | 15:36 |
| dhellmann | cdent: this is an evolving conversation | 15:36 |
| eglynn | dhellmann: I referenced the production deployment numbers from the Juno user survey on the ML | 15:37 |
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| dhellmann | eglynn: great, that'll help | 15:37 |
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| dhellmann | the fact that there are several stackforge projects that overlap with ceilometer doesn't help, unfortunately | 15:37 |
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| eglynn | dhellmann: do you mean Monasca? | 15:38 |
| cdent | Maybe, then, it is important to distinguish between ceilometer and telemetry. | 15:38 |
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| cdent | Because ceilometer is an implementation which _may_ be lame, but telemetry is a clear need. | 15:38 |
| dhellmann | eglynn: and stacktach and there's another I don't remember off the top of my head | 15:39 |
| cdent | And I, at least, think of myself as working on telemetry. | 15:39 |
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| dhellmann | cdent: the argument these people are making is that because ceilometer isn't good enough, another team should be given a chance to prove they are | 15:39 |
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| nsaje | Synaps? https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Synaps | 15:39 |
| dhellmann | I don't agree with that at all, I'm just relaying what I'm hearing. | 15:39 |
| eglynn | dhellmann: that's probably Monasca you're thinking of, used to be called HP Jahmon | 15:39 |
| nsaje | ah, sorry, that's not on stackforge | 15:40 |
| dhellmann | nsaje: Synaps did come up in one conversation I've had, but yeah. Also healthnmon, but I don't know where that lives any more. | 15:40 |
| dhellmann | eglynn: that's the most recent, yes | 15:40 |
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| cdent | dhellmann: Even if that were come to pass, wouldn't we all just meander over to whatever that new project is and, by the logic, ruin it too? | 15:40 |
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| dhellmann | anyway, I don't want to get everyone down, I just want to make sure everyone understands this is not an idle discussion | 15:40 |
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| eglynn | dhellmann: yep, understood, and thanks for the TC insight on that | 15:41 |
| dhellmann | cdent: I'm not sure they're thinking that far ahead | 15:41 |
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| cdent | People are strange. | 15:41 |
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| eglynn | I guess I just wanted to bring this up on everyone's radar, so that we're all aware of it | 15:42 |
| ildikov_ | I guess it's about numbers now for the TC, I mean deployments, etc :( | 15:42 |
| eglynn | ... but by the same token we should try to not allow it become a distraction/demotivation factor for juno-3 | 15:42 |
| cdent | Has anyone tried the "Hey, why can't we all just get along, come join the party" tactic? | 15:43 |
| jd__ | several times | 15:43 |
| cdent | replacing one project with another is a very lame way to waste resources | 15:43 |
| cdent | bummer | 15:43 |
| eglynn | ildikov_: yes, so hard data on non-small production deployments would be useful | 15:43 |
| dhellmann | right - the best thing to do is keep working on fixes and testing to bring things up to par | 15:43 |
| DinaBelova | cdent, I guess we all share your opinion here | 15:43 |
| jd__ | cdent: but everybody tries to convince the other guys to pick their stuff and stop their pet project | 15:43 |
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| * cdent is not wed to anything | 15:44 | |
| ildikov_ | and also I guess bringing Gnocchi in is not really helpful in this situation | 15:44 |
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| DinaBelova | ildikov_, btw, fair point - like doing smth new before fixing something old one.... | 15:44 |
| eglynn | ildikov_: well, the fact that we've a plan to address architectural debt should be a positive IMO | 15:44 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, yes, that should be shown in nice way | 15:45 |
| eglynn | i.e. we're not sticking our head in the sand and ignoring the issues | 15:45 |
| dhellmann | ildikov_: the new API is an improvement, but there are questions about the wisdom of building gnocchi, which is why jd__'s blog post will be helpful | 15:45 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, the message here should be clear | 15:45 |
| DinaBelova | dhellmann, ++ | 15:45 |
| jd__ | the TC should note I'm absolutely not blocking them from solving the problem in any other way | 15:45 |
| dhellmann | jd__: "them"? | 15:45 |
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| ildikov_ | eglynn: from that point yes, it's just still not a proven change | 15:46 |
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| jd__ | s/them/people from the TC/ | 15:46 |
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| ildikov_ | dhellmann: +1, any post that makes this change and the reason for this change is really useful now | 15:46 |
| jd__ | or anybody FWIW | 15:46 |
| _nadya_ | unfortunately agree with ildikov_. But I hope we are wrong :) | 15:47 |
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| ildikov_ | _nadya_: yeap, I hope the same :) | 15:47 |
| eglynn | jd__: so the fact that gnocchi is being built out at arm's length from ceilo should be seen by the TC as a net positive IMO | 15:47 |
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| dhellmann | eglynn: +1 - the fact that ceilometer will support other time-series databases is good, assuming we can get them running in the CI infrastructure for functional testing | 15:48 |
| ildikov_ | _nadya_: the unfortunate in the current situation that people like seeing the dark side first, before thinking anything good about something or at least that's my experience, that's why I mentioned this PoV | 15:48 |
| nsaje | I'd just like to point out that it's easy to build a specialized product with pick-of-the-litter backends, not quite so easy to build it on abstractions allowing a plethora of different backend combinations | 15:48 |
| jd__ | nsaje: point being? | 15:49 |
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| eglynn | dhellmann: yeah, I made that point clear to the influxdb guy at the mid-cycle, i.e. the importance of getting the packages/RPMs in the ubuntu and EPEL6 repos | 15:49 |
| dhellmann | nsaje: that's a great point. we need to make sure the history is clear, because not everyone has followed the discussions we've had with other projects about sharing or integrating or replacing parts of ceilometer | 15:49 |
| nsaje | jd__: that whoever is building alternatives to Ceilometer has it easy | 15:50 |
| dhellmann | eglynn: good, that will be key, as we've seen with mongodb in the past | 15:50 |
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| eglynn | ok, I guess we're mostly on the same page with this, I guess we'll have to see how the TC discussions play out this evening | 15:51 |
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| jd__ | nsaje: got it :) | 15:51 |
| eglynn | anyone got anything else they want to raise up on this? | 15:52 |
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| dhellmann | that meeting is in just over 4 hours if anyone else wants to listen in (it's not just about ceilometer at this point) | 15:52 |
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| dhellmann | sorry, 3 hours | 15:52 |
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| eglynn | dhellmann: I'll definitely lurk on that | 15:52 |
| dhellmann | good | 15:52 |
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| ildikov_ | dhellmann: on this channel? | 15:53 |
| dhellmann | ah, no, #openstack-meeting-3 | 15:53 |
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| ildikov_ | dhellmann: ok, thanks | 15:53 |
| DinaBelova | dhellmann, ok | 15:54 |
| eglynn | k, let's move on so, up against the shotclock | 15:54 |
| eglynn | #topic godc to take on PTL reins from Aug 18-28 | 15:54 |
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| * eglynn will be on PTO from Aug 18-28 | 15:54 | |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, good for you :) | 15:54 |
| eglynn | :) | 15:54 |
| ildikov_ | DinaBelova: :) | 15:54 |
| dhellmann | a well deserved break :-) | 15:54 |
| DinaBelova | dhellmann, ++ | 15:55 |
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| eglynn | not great timing I'm afraid, but anyway ... | 15:55 |
| eglynn | gordc has kindly agreed to take up the PTL duties | 15:55 |
| cdent | While you are gone we are going to conspire to destroy ceilometer. | 15:55 |
| eglynn | cdent: LOL :) | 15:55 |
| ildikov_ | eglynn: there's never a good timing, so please don't work during those 10 days :) | 15:55 |
| _nadya_ | hehe | 15:55 |
| DinaBelova | cdent, let's be silent :) | 15:55 |
| cdent | :) | 15:55 |
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| eglynn | so anyhoo, please keep gordc in the loop on BP status etc. if anythng goes into the weeds | 15:56 |
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| eglynn | #topic Open discussion | 15:56 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, ok, gotcha | 15:56 |
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| eglynn | 3 mins left ... | 15:57 |
| * cdent moves to adjourn | 15:57 | |
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| jd__ | grapefruit | 15:57 |
| * eglynn seconds the motion | 15:57 | |
| ildikov_ | 2... | 15:57 |
| DinaBelova | I guess that's it :) | 15:58 |
| eglynn | k, thanks for all for your time! | 15:58 |
| eglynn | #endmeeting | 15:58 |
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| DinaBelova | bye! | 15:58 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 14 15:58:20 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ceilometer/2014/ceilometer.2014-08-14-15.00.html | 15:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ceilometer/2014/ceilometer.2014-08-14-15.00.txt | 15:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ceilometer/2014/ceilometer.2014-08-14-15.00.log.html | 15:58 |
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| mtreinish | #startmeeting qa | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 14 17:00:08 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mtreinish. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: qa)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'qa' | 17:00 |
| mtreinish | hi who do we have here today? | 17:00 |
| afazekas | o/ | 17:00 |
| mtreinish | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/QATeamMeeting#Proposed_Agenda_for_August_14_2014_.281700_UTC.29 | 17:00 |
| mlavalle | hi | 17:00 |
| maurosr | hey | 17:00 |
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| mtreinish | ^^^ today's agenda | 17:00 |
| psedlak | hi | 17:00 |
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| andreaf | o/ | 17:01 |
| asselin | o/ | 17:01 |
| mtreinish | ok let's get started | 17:01 |
| mtreinish | #topic Name for tempest library (mtreinish) | 17:01 |
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| dpaterson | o/ | 17:01 |
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| mtreinish | so as part of splitting off parts of tempest into a library | 17:02 |
| mtreinish | we need to make a new repo | 17:02 |
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| mkoderer | o/ | 17:02 |
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| mtreinish | I wanted to call it mesocyclone | 17:02 |
| jlanoux | hi | 17:02 |
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| mtreinish | but some people have expressed issue with that name | 17:03 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: seriously? :D | 17:03 |
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| mtreinish | I've heard from some people that since it's a library a more functional name is more appropriate | 17:03 |
| mlavalle | mtreinish: what's the rationale behind that name? | 17:03 |
| mtreinish | mlavalle: mesocyclone is a precursor to a tornado | 17:03 |
| dkranz | o/ | 17:03 |
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| mlavalle | mtreinish: I like it. + 1 fro me | 17:04 |
| dpaterson | twister | 17:04 |
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| mtreinish | I'm planning to take it to the ml before I do the split | 17:04 |
| mtreinish | but I wanted to bring up here first | 17:04 |
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| mtreinish | to get people thinking about it :) | 17:05 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: I like it but maybe it is too long | 17:05 |
| jlanoux | blackstorm? | 17:05 |
| mkoderer | ahm sry.. maybe I missed that... why are we doing that? | 17:05 |
| mtreinish | mkoderer: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/qa-specs/specs/tempest-library.html | 17:05 |
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| psedlak | tempestish? :) | 17:06 |
| afazekas | tsepmet - tempest in reverse order | 17:06 |
| mkoderer | lol | 17:06 |
| maurosr | lol | 17:06 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: Is there a proposed list of what will be moved? The spec doesn't really say. | 17:06 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: not yet | 17:06 |
| mtreinish | I was going to start with the cli | 17:06 |
| mtreinish | and the rest client | 17:06 |
| mtreinish | and go from there | 17:06 |
| mtreinish | cli tests that is | 17:06 |
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| mtreinish | I have to do a list of everything that makes sense to split off still | 17:07 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: rest client drags auth and conf and ... | 17:07 |
| mtreinish | auth yes | 17:07 |
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| mtreinish | but I'm going to refactor it to take in args instead of a conf | 17:07 |
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| mtreinish | to make it portable | 17:07 |
| mtreinish | I think I put that part in the spec | 17:08 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: great. we needed to do that anyway | 17:08 |
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| mtreinish | ok is there anything else on this topic? | 17:08 |
| psedlak | mtreinish: are there already proposed names? something to pick from? or is this first round? | 17:08 |
| mtreinish | psedlak: this is the first round | 17:09 |
| afazekas | tempest-lib / lib-tempest | 17:09 |
| mkoderer | libtemp ;) | 17:09 |
| andreaf | what about calm? the calm before the storm | 17:09 |
| psedlak | andreaf: ++ | 17:09 |
| mtreinish | afazekas: yeah that would be a more functional name | 17:09 |
| mtreinish | anyway I'll put it on the ML | 17:09 |
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| andreaf | mtreinish: a really functional name would be something like integration-test-lib which is ugly :D | 17:10 |
| mtreinish | andreaf: yeah that was my concern :) | 17:10 |
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| mkoderer | libit then | 17:10 |
| afazekas | oepnstack-pythonclient | 17:10 |
| jlanoux | mesocyclone is fine for me ;) | 17:10 |
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| mtreinish | jlanoux: heh, yeah I like it too | 17:10 |
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| mtreinish | plus google a picture of it, it's cool looking | 17:11 |
| mtreinish | anyway lets move on | 17:11 |
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| mtreinish | #topic Specs Review | 17:11 |
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| mtreinish | so I haven't had a chance to review any specs lately | 17:11 |
| mtreinish | are there any that people would like to get eyes on | 17:12 |
| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/qa-specs,n,z | 17:12 |
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| andreaf | I have one | 17:12 |
| andreaf | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/94741/ | 17:12 |
| andreaf | I refreshed the ssh auth strategy one | 17:12 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104098/ is waiting for +A from you | 17:12 |
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| dkranz | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/86967/ is looking for another +2 | 17:12 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: hmm, ok I'll take a look | 17:13 |
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| mtreinish | but for the provider networking one I'm wondering if it belongs under the existing neutron testing bp | 17:13 |
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| mtreinish | dkranz: the seond one should be fine, but I'll take a closer look after the meeting | 17:14 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: It might but I'm not sure we need more spec churn | 17:14 |
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| mtreinish | andreaf: oh, yeah that one, I need to take a close look | 17:14 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: fair enough | 17:14 |
| mtreinish | andreaf: cleaning up the ssh code is definitely something we need to do | 17:15 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: yes I updated it - included the idea of wait_for_sshable that sdague mentioned in some meeting | 17:15 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: and it's something that should probably go in the library as well | 17:15 |
| mtreinish | cool | 17:15 |
| mtreinish | yeah definitely | 17:15 |
| mtreinish | but we don't necessarily have to hold up work on it until the library is a thing | 17:16 |
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| mtreinish | it'll all depend on the timing I guess | 17:16 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: right it can be done in tempest and moved across | 17:16 |
| andreaf | to mesocyclone - if I can spell it :P | 17:16 |
| mtreinish | ok, are there any other specs? | 17:16 |
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| mtreinish | then let's move on | 17:17 |
| mtreinish | #topic Blueprints | 17:17 |
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| mtreinish | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tempest | 17:17 |
| mtreinish | so we've still got a large number of open blueprints | 17:18 |
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| mtreinish | does anyone have a status update on an open bp? | 17:18 |
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| mkoderer | I nearly finished with the api schema unification | 17:18 |
| mkoderer | but I need reviews... https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/tempest+branch:master+topic:bp/api-schema-unification,n,z | 17:18 |
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| mtreinish | mkoderer: awesome | 17:18 |
| andreaf | mkoderer: I'll check those | 17:19 |
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| dpaterson | I sumbitted pull req for review. | 17:19 |
| mkoderer | and I started to work on a porting guide for negative tests | 17:19 |
| dpaterson | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/112581/ | 17:19 |
| mtreinish | dpaterson: ok, cool | 17:19 |
| mkoderer | dpaterson: nice | 17:20 |
| mtreinish | it's good to see progress being made on things | 17:20 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: regarding scenario migration to tempest client | 17:20 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: we have *a lot* of changes up, but they all depend on the initial one still not merged - so I need reviews on these three | 17:21 |
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| andreaf | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/107428 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/107552 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/107562 | 17:22 |
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| mtreinish | andreaf: ok, yeah I'll take a look at those soon | 17:22 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: thanks | 17:22 |
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| mtreinish | also, for the test-accounts bp we're making progress | 17:23 |
| mtreinish | the alternate credential provider has landed | 17:23 |
| andreaf | regarding test accounts, your change is merged, and I just changed mine to use deprecated option for tenant isolation | 17:23 |
| mtreinish | so now it's a matter of aactually using it | 17:23 |
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| mtreinish | andreaf: heh | 17:23 |
| mtreinish | ok are there any other bps to discuss? | 17:24 |
| andreaf | and there are two other changes in progress by psedlak for a tool to generate credentials and its use in devstack | 17:24 |
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| mkoderer | andreaf: did you checked the -1 from yair on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/107562 | 17:24 |
| asselin | i haven't had a chance to rework the stree test BP. It's next after I get 3rd party ci working for my team. | 17:25 |
| mtreinish | asselin: ok nice | 17:25 |
| andreaf | mkoderer: oh yes thanks I almost forgot I'll make a new patch later today for that | 17:25 |
| mtreinish | I was curious what the status was on that one | 17:26 |
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| mtreinish | ok are there any other bps to discuss? Otherwise we can move on | 17:26 |
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| mtreinish | #topic Grenade | 17:27 |
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| mtreinish | so we merged the patch to start using javelin2 | 17:27 |
| mtreinish | which is awesome | 17:28 |
| mtreinish | so now we can start at iterate on feature improvements there | 17:28 |
| mkoderer | btw I realized that we have too few grenade cores IMHO | 17:28 |
| mtreinish | aside from that I'm not aware of any big updates on grenade | 17:29 |
| mtreinish | mkoderer: yeah, I agree | 17:29 |
| mtreinish | jogo was just added | 17:29 |
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| mtreinish | but 3 is still kind of few | 17:29 |
| mkoderer | I think we have three | 17:29 |
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| mtreinish | mkoderer: yeah | 17:29 |
| mtreinish | the issue is not too many people have been actively reviewing things there | 17:30 |
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| mtreinish | I would like to grow that | 17:30 |
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| mkoderer | yep.. I think there aren't many ppl aware of this project | 17:31 |
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| mtreinish | heh, that might be, but I'm not sure | 17:31 |
| psedlak | also imho it's not directly usefull/usable to/by anyone directly | 17:32 |
| mtreinish | psedlak: well it's mostly for gating and testing an upgrade locally for dev | 17:32 |
| mtreinish | not for doing it in production | 17:32 |
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| psedlak | mtreinish: right, though i'm not sure if devs are going to use it much localy act. | 17:33 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: I am not that familiar with grenade but should that be revisited? | 17:33 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: probably not, because it's based on devstack | 17:33 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: I think the moves to make tempest not have any devstack dependency helped its adoption a lot | 17:33 |
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| psedlak | mtreinish: so at the end i think it's "just" kind of thing like "gating glue" | 17:33 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: it's not meant to be general purpose tool | 17:34 |
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| dkranz | mtreinish: I get that | 17:34 |
| andreaf | there were some discussions at the infra mid-cycle about making grenade general purpose, but it would be very little left | 17:34 |
| andreaf | most of grenade content is devstack specific probably | 17:34 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: I was just wondering how much abstraction/pluggability it would need to serve more general purpose | 17:34 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: almost everything | 17:35 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: ok :) | 17:35 |
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| mtreinish | it's basically devstack++ | 17:35 |
| mkoderer | so I think what be a good idea if some of us have a closer look to grenade? ;) | 17:35 |
| mtreinish | mkoderer: heh, yes I agree :) | 17:35 |
| andreaf | dkranz mtreinish so it would be good to have a grenade kind of tool for tripleo environment, but how much could we reuse really? | 17:35 |
| mtreinish | andreaf: it's more the methodology you can use | 17:36 |
| andreaf | yep | 17:36 |
| mtreinish | and javelin2 would also be useful | 17:36 |
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| mtreinish | to test things stay up through an upgrade | 17:36 |
| mtreinish | ok is there anything else on grenade? | 17:37 |
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| mtreinish | ok then lets move on | 17:37 |
| mtreinish | #topic Neutron testing | 17:38 |
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| mtreinish | so salv-orlando is really close to merging parallel full neutron everwhere | 17:38 |
| mtreinish | which is exciting | 17:38 |
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| mkoderer | cool | 17:38 |
| mtreinish | mlavalle, salv-orlando: are there any other updates on neutron testing? | 17:39 |
| mlavalle | mtreinish: I've been investing time developing the client and api test for the new LBaaS api | 17:39 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: so just a note to keep an eye on the full job even if not voting | 17:39 |
| mlavalle | mtreinish: I've been sending updates to the ML | 17:40 |
| mtreinish | andreaf: oh yes, good point | 17:40 |
| mtreinish | mlavalle: yes I've been seeing those | 17:40 |
| mlavalle | mtreinish: I have also been helping the group based policy to develop their tests | 17:40 |
| mlavalle | they are developing them themelves but I've been training and guiding them | 17:40 |
| mtreinish | ok, cool | 17:41 |
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| mlavalle | and I intend to start developing an scenario test for the new LBaaS api. I will follow the work that andreaf has been doing with test_minmum_basic to convert it to the tempest client | 17:41 |
| mlavalle | that's all I have this week | 17:42 |
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| mtreinish | mlavalle: how does that differ from the existing LBaaS scenario test? | 17:42 |
| mtreinish | just covers more of the api? | 17:42 |
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| mlavalle | mtreinish: the absatractions offered by the new api are different | 17:43 |
| mtreinish | ahh, ok | 17:43 |
| mlavalle | I really intend to reuse the current scenario test and convert it to the new abstractions | 17:43 |
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| mtreinish | ok that makes sense | 17:43 |
| mlavalle | and make the move to tempest client | 17:43 |
| mtreinish | good, that'll make everyone happy :) | 17:44 |
| mlavalle | my belief is that by statying close to the new Neutron subprojects we will keep the api and scenario tests fresh | 17:44 |
| mlavalle | instead of always catching up | 17:44 |
| mtreinish | yeah that'll probably help | 17:44 |
| mtreinish | ok is there anything else to discuss on neutron testing? | 17:45 |
| mlavalle | ok, that's all I have | 17:45 |
| mlavalle | :-) | 17:45 |
| mtreinish | ok then let's move on | 17:45 |
| mtreinish | #topic bugs | 17:45 |
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| mtreinish | so I haven't been watching the bug list too closely the past few weeks | 17:46 |
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| mtreinish | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest | 17:46 |
| mtreinish | but we've got 259 open bugs right now | 17:46 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: I didn't really look at bugs either - how do we keep them under control usually? | 17:46 |
| mtreinish | andreaf: not very well honestly :) | 17:46 |
| mtreinish | I'm thinking we might need to do a bug day soon | 17:47 |
| mtreinish | it'll also be helpful if someone volunteered to keep on top of them after the bug day | 17:47 |
| mkoderer | yep a bug day is a good idea | 17:47 |
| mtreinish | so we don't grow to this level again | 17:47 |
| mtreinish | are there any volunteers to organize a bug day? | 17:48 |
| mtreinish | maurosr: I believe you did the last one :) | 17:48 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: Does that involve more than picking a day and sending out emails? | 17:49 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: not much, just tracking the results | 17:49 |
| mtreinish | and pestering people to look at bugs | 17:49 |
| andreaf | :D | 17:49 |
| mtreinish | oh and changing the topic in the -qa channel :) | 17:49 |
| mtreinish | well don't everyone volunteer at once | 17:50 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: ok, I will find some one or do it | 17:50 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: ok awesome | 17:50 |
| mtreinish | #action dkranz to find a volunteer to organize a bug day | 17:50 |
| mtreinish | ok then lets move on | 17:50 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: I is during August too early? | 17:50 |
| mtreinish | no I think that'll be fine | 17:50 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: does one need special status to triage bugs in lp or how does that work? | 17:51 |
| mtreinish | as long as there's a weeks notice | 17:51 |
| mtreinish | andreaf: I think there is a tempest bug team | 17:51 |
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| mtreinish | in lp | 17:51 |
| mtreinish | but membership is open | 17:51 |
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| andreaf | mtreinish, oh ok | 17:51 |
| dkranz | For folks here is there any day of week that is bad. Just asking... | 17:51 |
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| mtreinish | dkranz: well I like to have it before thurs so we can do a summary during the meeting | 17:52 |
| mtreinish | but that's not the biggest deal | 17:52 |
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| dkranz | mtreinish: ok, then it shall be Mon,Tue,or Wed | 17:52 |
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| dkranz | mtreinish: we can move on | 17:52 |
| mtreinish | ok | 17:52 |
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| mtreinish | #topic Critical Review | 17:52 |
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| mkoderer | I am worried about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/113900/ | 17:53 |
| mtreinish | ok in the time remaining does anyone have any reviews that need more eyes | 17:53 |
| mkoderer | I thought flake8 checks the indentation | 17:53 |
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| mtreinish | mkoderer: it does, that's from pylint | 17:53 |
| mtreinish | I'm actually -1 there, because if we don't automate it | 17:53 |
| mtreinish | I don't see a point in correcting it periodically | 17:53 |
| mtreinish | it'll just cause rebase churn | 17:53 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: I agree | 17:54 |
| mkoderer | mtreinish: but having over indented lines are ugly | 17:54 |
| mkoderer | but anyway :) | 17:54 |
| mtreinish | mkoderer: yeah, so we need to check that in the pep8 jobs then :) | 17:54 |
| andreaf | mkoderer I think what mtreinish is saying is that we need an hacking rule for that? | 17:54 |
| mtreinish | I don't want to fix a style issue unless it's enforcing | 17:54 |
| mkoderer | danny is working on that currently | 17:54 |
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| mkoderer | the pylint jobs in cinder didn't cover it too | 17:55 |
| mtreinish | mkoderer: ok, well I'm going to -2 it with that comment until we run the check in the gate we can't merge it | 17:55 |
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| mkoderer | mtreinish: ok I will talk to danny that he is not sad :) | 17:55 |
| mtreinish | I'll try to be more verbose to make it clear to try and not upset him :) | 17:56 |
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| mtreinish | but on this note: | 17:56 |
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| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/98909 | 17:56 |
| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/98918 | 17:56 |
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| mtreinish | if we can get those merged it'll turn back on all the rules we had to disable with the last hacking update | 17:56 |
| mtreinish | they just need +As | 17:56 |
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| mtreinish | asssuming they don't need another rebase... | 17:57 |
| mkoderer | mtreinish: ok I will have a look | 17:57 |
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| mtreinish | ok are there any other reviews that people would like to bring up? | 17:57 |
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| mtreinish | ok then I guess we can end ~1min early | 17:59 |
| mtreinish | thanks everyone | 17:59 |
| dpaterson | cheers | 17:59 |
| mtreinish | #endmeeting | 17:59 |
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| dpaterson | cr0wBar! | 17:59 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 14 17:59:31 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2014/qa.2014-08-14-17.00.html | 17:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2014/qa.2014-08-14-17.00.txt | 17:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2014/qa.2014-08-14-17.00.log.html | 17:59 |
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| mikal | Well hello | 21:01 |
| mikal | Who is here for the nova meeting? | 21:01 |
| adrian_otto | o/ | 21:01 |
| mriedem | start recording, then you'll find out :) | 21:01 |
| alaski | o/ | 21:01 |
| mrda | \o | 21:01 |
| mikal | pinging: mikal tjones cburgess jgrimm adrian_otto mzoeller funzo mjturek jcook | 21:01 |
| alex_xu | o/ | 21:01 |
| jcook | o/ | 21:02 |
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| mikal | Ok, let's get going | 21:02 |
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| mikal | #startmeeting nova | 21:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 14 21:02:35 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mikal. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 21:02 |
| dansmith | o/ | 21:02 |
| mriedem | hi | 21:02 |
| adrian_otto | o/ | 21:02 |
| mikal | Oh, we say hello in the logged bit do we? | 21:02 |
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| funzo | o/ | 21:02 |
| mikal | :P | 21:02 |
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| dansmith | mikal: yes :) | 21:03 |
| mriedem | it doesn't count otherwise | 21:03 |
| mikal | Heh | 21:03 |
| mikal | The agenda is at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova#Agenda_for_next_meeting as always | 21:03 |
| mrda | o/ | 21:03 |
| mikal | #topic Juno-3 status, Feature Proposal Freeze August 21st, September 4th Juno-3, FF and SF | 21:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Juno-3 status, Feature Proposal Freeze August 21st, September 4th Juno-3, FF and SF (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:03 | |
| mikal | #note mikal sent an email out with review "priorities" an hour or so ago | 21:03 |
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| mikal | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-August/043098.html | 21:03 |
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| mikal | dansmith has already replied with some status updates there | 21:03 |
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| mikal | But the punch line is that we need to spend some time reviewing important BPs for j-3 | 21:04 |
| mikal | The ironic one seems to be under control | 21:04 |
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| mikal | And the vmware one is suffering under the reign of minesweeper | 21:04 |
| mikal | But helping out with reviews on those would be much appreciated | 21:04 |
| dansmith | mrda and I are slaughtering the ironic one | 21:04 |
| mriedem | i think the CI system formerly known as minesweeper is fixed | 21:04 |
| mikal | dansmith: in a good way? | 21:04 |
| dansmith | mikal: yes, like "killing it" | 21:05 |
| mrda | thanks dansmith, your reviewing prowess is greatly appreciated! | 21:05 |
| dansmith | hmm | 21:05 |
| dansmith | yes, in a good way | 21:05 |
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| dansmith | guess I need some non-violent references | 21:05 |
| mikal | dansmith: do you need another core to hand hold with you? | 21:05 |
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| tjones | im late i joined the open-tack meeting but no one was there | 21:05 |
| dansmith | mikal: I can stir up some reviews once I think it's really ready if you want | 21:05 |
| mikal | dansmith: that would work | 21:05 |
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| dansmith | mikal: but if anyone else wants to jump on that's cool too | 21:05 |
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| mikal | Yeah, I think dansmith is doing a good job, but helping hijm out would be cool too | 21:06 |
| mikal | So... I am going to regret this... | 21:06 |
| mikal | What else is urgent that we should be reviewing for j-3? | 21:06 |
| mikal | Are there things that should be high that we have the priority wrong on? | 21:06 |
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| mriedem | link to the bp list? | 21:07 |
| mriedem | w/ priorities? | 21:07 |
| mikal | #link https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/juno-3 | 21:07 |
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| mriedem | thanks | 21:07 |
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| mikal | NP | 21:07 |
| mikal | Maybe we can come back to that in open discussion | 21:08 |
| mikal | To give people time to think it over | 21:08 |
| mikal | Instead of stalling now | 21:08 |
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| mikal | The other thing that a few people have raised with me is the idea of bringing back some form of "review day" back | 21:08 |
| mikal | Be it a day, or a week rotation | 21:08 |
| adrian_otto | how does that work? | 21:08 |
| mikal | I think its a good idea | 21:08 |
| mikal | adrian_otto: there would be a roster of nova-cores, who would devote their time while rostered to just doing code reviews | 21:09 |
| mikal | Its something we used to do when vishy was PTL, but it fell out of fashion | 21:09 |
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| adrian_otto | why? were the cores exhausted by it? | 21:09 |
| mikal | I think we all just got busy | 21:09 |
| mikal | And sort of forgot about it | 21:09 |
| dansmith | I don't really find them all that useful to be honest | 21:10 |
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| mikal | I think it depends on your workflow | 21:10 |
| adrian_otto | sounds like a good idea to me. | 21:10 |
| mikal | Some cores do reviews every day | 21:10 |
| mikal | So it wouldn't change much for them | 21:10 |
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| mikal | Other cores it helps to have the external motivation | 21:10 |
| mikal | So... Let me rephrase. | 21:10 |
| mikal | I think its a good idea, but I want someone else to run it | 21:10 |
| mikal | So, does anyone think it s agood enough idea to volunteer to come up with a roster and encourage people to actually do reviews on their days? | 21:11 |
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| adrian_otto | be the official nag | 21:11 |
| mikal | Yeah | 21:11 |
| mikal | Perhaps report in this meeting who did a great job etc etc | 21:11 |
| mriedem | so i don't get it, its' like 'office hours'? | 21:12 |
| mriedem | so people can just bug the cores that are in during those office hours to review their patches? | 21:12 |
| mikal | mriedem: not really | 21:12 |
| mikal | Its more carving time out of your schedule to do reviews | 21:12 |
| mriedem | oh ok | 21:12 |
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| mikal | If you were rostered today we'd expect you to clear your schedule for the day and just do code reviews all day | 21:12 |
| adrian_otto | I thinkt aht should probably be an arrangement between the cores and the PTL | 21:12 |
| mriedem | for us undisciplined folk | 21:12 |
| mikal | Pretty much | 21:13 |
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| mriedem | not a bad idea for me, i've been pretty sporadic with reviews lately | 21:13 |
| adrian_otto | rather than something published and trolled by all contributors to get things to land | 21:13 |
| mriedem | so it might help forcing me personally | 21:13 |
| mikal | Well, if you review the things from that email I sent out today, then that has a similar effect overall | 21:13 |
| mriedem | yeha | 21:13 |
| mikal | So, it sounds like no volunteer to run it though | 21:14 |
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| mikal | #action mikal to ask openstack-dev if anyone wants to give running a review day roster a go | 21:14 |
| jogo | shocking no one wants to be the offical nag | 21:14 |
| mikal | jogo: yeah, I know right? | 21:14 |
| dansmith | I think you mean "shocking that jogo doesn't want to be the official nag" :P | 21:14 |
| mikal | Ok, anything else on j-3 and release status? | 21:14 |
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| mikal | #topic Bugs | 21:15 |
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| jogo | when does the culling of the blueprints happen? | 21:15 |
| jogo | proposal deadline | 21:15 |
| mikal | jogo: bps without code should be being culled now | 21:15 |
| mikal | jogo: bps with code will hit the FF eventually | 21:16 |
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| mikal | (Well, without code and with no chance of proposing all the code by FPF) | 21:16 |
| jogo | sounds like an action item fo johnthetubaguy | 21:16 |
| mikal | Yeah, he's at a cold meat themed music festival this week | 21:16 |
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| mikal | So I expect that to pick up next week | 21:16 |
| mikal | Anyways, bugs | 21:16 |
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| mikal | It seems our bug fix rate has leveled out | 21:16 |
| tjones | if sure has :-( | 21:17 |
| mikal | I say based on zero data, just my impression | 21:17 |
| mikal | tjones: do we need to start doing a weekly mail out of the most important bugs? | 21:17 |
| mikal | tjones: like we are for j-3 bp reviews? | 21:17 |
| jogo | http://54.201.139.117/nova-bugs.html | 21:17 |
| tjones | yeah good idea | 21:17 |
| tjones | i can start that | 21:17 |
| jogo | 1059 open bugs | 21:17 |
| mikal | tjones: that would be appreciated | 21:17 |
| jogo | ++ | 21:17 |
| mikal | That's a lot less than earlier in the cycle, but its still 1,000 too many | 21:17 |
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| mikal | So, if each of you closes 100 bugs over the weekend... | 21:18 |
| mikal | ...then the code wouldn't merge | 21:18 |
| tjones | there are 3 critical bugs - the 1st one has patches merged for ironic and oslo and could use revirews for nova https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/use-oslo-vmware | 21:18 |
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| tjones | its a test issue | 21:18 |
| mikal | tjones: that's a blueprint not a bug? | 21:18 |
| tjones | LOL | 21:18 |
| mikal | Or is it a big bug or something? | 21:18 |
| tjones | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1328997 | 21:18 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1328997 in nova "Unit test failure: openstack_citest" is being accessed by other users\nDETAIL: There are 1 other session(s) using the database." [Critical,In progress] | 21:19 |
| mikal | Oh, ok | 21:19 |
| tjones | sorry | 21:19 |
| mikal | NP | 21:19 |
| tjones | that was something else i wanted to discuss later | 21:19 |
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| dansmith | is there a nova patch to review for that? | 21:19 |
| dansmith | or does it need to be created still? | 21:19 |
| mikal | Yeah, I'm scrolling through looking for it | 21:19 |
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| tjones | um - wait i see 1 merged now | 21:20 |
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| dansmith | like a while ago | 21:20 |
| mikal | So do we think its fixed and just in the wrong state? | 21:20 |
| tjones | ok this is a left over that should be closed then. sorry was looking from the bottom | 21:20 |
| tjones | yep | 21:21 |
| mikal | Yay! One less bug! | 21:21 |
| dansmith | excellent | 21:21 |
| dansmith | I like those | 21:21 |
| tjones | the other 2 arguably are not cirical as they only affect the vmwareapi | 21:21 |
| jogo | tjones: is the source for your webpage open? | 21:21 |
| jogo | tjones: because matbe we can move it to status.openstack.org somewhere | 21:21 |
| dansmith | tjones: didn't we say that no bug can be critical if it's only affecting one driver? | 21:21 |
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| tjones | yes it is on gitup - i can end the link to you | 21:21 |
| dansmith | gitup? | 21:21 |
| tjones | dansmith: yes and i knew you were going to say that | 21:21 |
| jogo | tjones: thanks that would be great | 21:21 |
| tjones | github ;-P | 21:22 |
| dansmith | is that like github for cowboys? | 21:22 |
| mikal | dansmith: I assume it depends on how bad it is? | 21:22 |
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| tjones | yahooo! | 21:22 |
| tjones | yes i will decrease prio | 21:22 |
| mikal | dansmith: "deletes all instances" would probably still be critical | 21:22 |
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| dansmith | mikal: the definition of critical on the wiki says it has to affect all users I think | 21:22 |
| dansmith | mikal: which by definition doesn't apply to a single HV issue | 21:22 |
| mikal | Fair point | 21:22 |
| mikal | But I suspect we'd argue about it at the time if it happened | 21:22 |
| mikal | But that's a hypothetical, so let's not dig into it too hard | 21:22 |
| mikal | tjones: any other bug stuff we should know apart from "please fix them"? | 21:23 |
| dansmith | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/BugTriage#Task_2:_Prioritize_confirmed_bugs_.28bug_supervisors.29 | 21:23 |
| tjones | in any case - they could use a review | 21:23 |
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| tjones | yeah there are 179 bugs that need review | 21:23 |
| mikal | Is there a dashboard of those? | 21:23 |
| tjones | so when people are reviewing stuff - please review bugs too | 21:23 |
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| tjones | click the "ready for review" radio button on http://54.201.139.117/nova-bugs.html | 21:24 |
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| tjones | dims gave me a fix to sort the coumns which i'll put up today | 21:24 |
| mikal | Cool. | 21:24 |
| tjones | then you san see them ordered by age as well | 21:24 |
| mikal | I will include that in the next review priorities email as well then | 21:24 |
| tjones | great | 21:24 |
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| mikal | We should probably move on unless there's something else in bugs land | 21:25 |
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| tjones | that's pretty much it - there are about 30 that could be knocked off as they are abandoned. thats it from me | 21:25 |
| mikal | #topic Gate status | 21:25 |
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| mikal | mriedem: did you add this item? | 21:25 |
| mriedem | mikal: yeah | 21:25 |
| mriedem | gate is more or less ok | 21:25 |
| mikal | Want to talk to it then? | 21:25 |
| mriedem | but, InstanceInfoCacheNotFound traces are pervasive | 21:25 |
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| mriedem | like hundreds of thousands per week, 90% successful runs | 21:26 |
| mikal | That's... a lot | 21:26 |
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| jogo | sounds like a stacktrace we should fix | 21:26 |
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| mriedem | yeah i thought it was just stable/icehouse, so was glad to see this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/112520/1 | 21:26 |
| mriedem | but logstash says it's still on master | 21:26 |
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| mikal | Is there a bug filed for it? | 21:26 |
| mriedem | the old bug was https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1304968 | 21:27 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1304968 in nova "Nova cpu full of instance_info_cache stack traces due to attempting to send events about deleted instances" [High,Fix released] | 21:27 |
| dansmith | so, | 21:27 |
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| dansmith | that error is just a symptom of an instance being deleted, | 21:27 |
| dansmith | and the code looking it up not being careful about it | 21:27 |
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| dansmith | so that fix stands on its own, | 21:27 |
| dansmith | but there are just other cases on master tha trigger the same behavior I think | 21:27 |
| dansmith | what's the hit rate on master? less than icehouse, I hope/assume? | 21:28 |
| mikal | dansmith: so its a case of working through them all and cleaning them up one at a time? | 21:28 |
| mriedem | http://goo.gl/hHMGdO | 21:28 |
| dansmith | mikal: yeah | 21:28 |
| mikal | Kibana will mostly be master right? | 21:28 |
| dansmith | mriedem: is that limited to master? | 21:28 |
| mriedem | master is 212K in 7 days | 21:28 |
| mikal | And it says 235,362 hits in the last seven days | 21:28 |
| mriedem | dansmith: nope | 21:28 |
| mriedem | dansmith: so we want this for stable/icehouse https://review.openstack.org/#/c/112520/1 | 21:29 |
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| mikal | But stable runs are relatively rate comparatively, right? | 21:29 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: the first few I see are the lifecycle thing | 21:29 |
| mikal | s/rate/rare/ | 21:29 |
| dansmith | oh | 21:29 |
| mriedem | hits on stable/icehouse in 7 days are 19K | 21:29 |
| dansmith | but don't we see this for any grenade job as long as it's still present in icehouse? | 21:30 |
| mriedem | so yeah, stable/icehouse is far less, and we probably just need to merge that backport | 21:30 |
| dansmith | right | 21:30 |
| mriedem | yeah | 21:30 |
| mriedem | old side grenade logs are rife with these | 21:30 |
| dansmith | as long as this isn't in icehouse, then we'll see it charged against master | 21:30 |
| dansmith | yeah | 21:30 |
| mriedem | which makes debugging grenade hard | 21:30 |
| mikal | So we want two things? | 21:30 |
| mriedem | so dansmith can you hit that backpor | 21:30 |
| mikal | Merge that stble fix | 21:30 |
| mikal | And then walk through master cleaning up the others? | 21:30 |
| mriedem | yeah | 21:30 |
| mriedem | if it's mostly grenade, the stable fix should bring the rate way down | 21:30 |
| mikal | So... Who wants to give the master stuff a go? | 21:31 |
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| mikal | Oh, true | 21:31 |
| mriedem | mikal: i can open a new bug for it on master to investigate | 21:31 |
| dansmith | mriedem: done | 21:31 |
| mikal | mriedem: that would be good | 21:31 |
| mriedem | dansmith: cool, i'll bug mtreinish to hit the +A | 21:31 |
| dansmith | lets see what this does to our rate when we get it merged | 21:31 |
| dansmith | but obviously any that persist still need chasing | 21:31 |
| mriedem | mtreinish: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/112520/1 | 21:31 |
| mikal | I can review the stable change after the meetnig if no one beats me to it | 21:31 |
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| mikal | Anything else on gate stuff? | 21:31 |
| mriedem | nope | 21:32 |
| mikal | Cool | 21:32 |
| mikal | #topic Mid-cycle meetup summary | 21:32 |
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| mikal | This is mostly informational... I was asked to write a summary up. | 21:32 |
| mikal | I've been doing that, but its long. | 21:32 |
| mikal | So I've started posting the bits I've done, instead of blocking on perfection | 21:32 |
| mtreinish | mriedem: done | 21:32 |
| mikal | #link http://www.stillhq.com/openstack/juno/000005.html -- social stuff | 21:32 |
| mikal | #link http://www.stillhq.com/openstack/juno/000006.html -- containers | 21:32 |
| mikal | #link http://www.stillhq.com/openstack/juno/000007.html -- ironic | 21:32 |
| mikal | ^-- what I've go done so far | 21:32 |
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| mikal | There will be more later today, but its going to take me a while to get through it all | 21:33 |
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| mikal | Topics I've written up but need proof reading before posting are db2 and cells, there will be more after that as well | 21:33 |
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| mikal | I think its likely that there are cases where my recollection of what we agreed differs from other people's, so feel free to ping me if you're concerned | 21:34 |
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| mikal | #topic Open Discussion | 21:34 |
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| mikal | mriedem: did you add the powerkvm thing? | 21:34 |
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| bknudson | so what happens with unapproved juno specs? | 21:34 |
| mriedem | mikal: yeah, we sorted that out before the meeting | 21:34 |
| mriedem | mikal: powerkvm ci was disabled on monday | 21:34 |
| mikal | bknudson: please hold | 21:34 |
| mriedem | krtaylor updated the pkvm ci wiki page | 21:35 |
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| mikal | mriedem: ok, so its mostly informational? | 21:35 |
| mikal | mriedem: no action required? | 21:35 |
| mriedem | mikal: yeah, we can move on | 21:35 |
| mikal | Cool | 21:35 |
| mikal | bknudson: so, there's been some talk in the release meeting about that | 21:35 |
| bknudson | e.g., https://review.openstack.org/#/c/103617/ | 21:35 |
| mikal | I think what is likely to happen is that K specs will open soonish | 21:35 |
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| mikal | But with the expectation of no review until we ship J | 21:35 |
| bknudson | I didn't get around to working on it as I had hoped... too much other stuff | 21:35 |
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| mikal | So we'll be asking people to effectively rebase to the new directory | 21:36 |
| mikal | People who don't rebase after a timeout we assume have lost interst | 21:36 |
| mikal | And we can abandon those reviews | 21:36 |
| jogo | mikal: oh I have one thing: https://review.openstack.org/114044 | 21:36 |
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| jogo | adrian_otto: ^ | 21:36 |
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| bknudson | mikal: sounds easy enough | 21:36 |
| mikal | #action mikal to propose a K spec plan on the mailing list | 21:36 |
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| mikal | But I want to wait for John to get back so we're on the same page | 21:36 |
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| mikal | jogo: go! | 21:37 |
| adrian_otto | jogo: I will cover that in the subteam update | 21:37 |
| adrian_otto | but now it fine too | 21:37 |
| adrian_otto | *is | 21:37 |
| jogo | so adrian_otto posted https://review.openstack.org/114044 which is a kilo spec for a container service | 21:37 |
| mikal | adrian_otto: we don't do subteams as an agenda item any more | 21:37 |
| mikal | So do it now | 21:37 |
| dansmith | yeah, I thought we were going to want to see this in stackforge first | 21:37 |
| jogo | I thought at the mid-cycle we agreed to send this to stackforge first | 21:37 |
| mikal | Oh, I didn't notice that | 21:37 |
| mikal | We did agree to go to stackforge first | 21:38 |
| mikal | Are you asserting that means no spec? | 21:38 |
| adrian_otto | the rationale for starting it in nova-specs was to be sure the concept was well socialized among Nova devs | 21:38 |
| mikal | Or that the plan in the spec needs to reflect that? | 21:38 |
| adrian_otto | and that we will otu the compute program in a style consistent with Nova | 21:38 |
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| adrian_otto | I'd fine if we don't merge that spec | 21:38 |
| jogo | adrian_otto: so I like that idea, do it in stackforge but have a design doc | 21:38 |
| jogo | adrian_otto: cool, that works | 21:38 |
| adrian_otto | but I'd like us to collaborate on it where we are comfortable | 21:39 |
| mikal | So... I think we should have all the cmpute specs in one place | 21:39 |
| mikal | To be less confusing to our victims | 21:39 |
| adrian_otto | and since there is no compute program spec repo, that made the most sense | 21:39 |
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| jogo | adrian_otto: ++ sounds like we are all on the same page (I think) | 21:39 |
| dansmith | how about this: | 21:39 |
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| dansmith | just put this doc in the new repo, formatted like our spec, | 21:39 |
| dansmith | so that when we want to adopt it, we propose that doc as a spec | 21:40 |
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| dansmith | because the point of it being in stackforge, I thought, was to let it iterate quickly, | 21:40 |
| dansmith | which might change some of this ascii art, I'd think :P | 21:40 |
| jogo | dansmith: but we should also get nova feedback in the idea before they actaulyl do anything | 21:40 |
| dansmith | sure, sure | 21:40 |
| mikal | We could review a thing in stackforge though | 21:40 |
| dansmith | just doesn't seem worth having an uncommitted spec for us | 21:40 |
| jogo | so they interate in the right direction | 21:40 |
| mikal | It would be good to not bring up anotehr specs repo right now | 21:40 |
| mikal | Its a distraction | 21:40 |
| jogo | mikal: works for me | 21:40 |
| mikal | But if it was in the project repo that would work | 21:40 |
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| jogo | adrian_otto: thoughts? | 21:41 |
| adrian_otto | I'm happy to land a derivative of this proposal in the project repo | 21:41 |
| mikal | I think the mechanics of this is worth a mailing list thread to make sure people know what's happening | 21:41 |
| adrian_otto | I think the important thing now is that we refine it together | 21:41 |
| mikal | adrian_otto: do you want to do that or shall I? | 21:41 |
| dansmith | yeah, and ping us when it's up so we can go review it over there | 21:41 |
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| adrian_otto | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-August/043113.html ML THREAD About Containers Service | 21:42 |
| adrian_otto | mikal: done | 21:42 |
| mikal | Heh, thanks | 21:42 |
| jogo | adrian_otto: well that has the spec in our repo | 21:42 |
| mikal | jogo: its ok, we can reply to the mail once its moved | 21:42 |
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| jogo | yup | 21:43 |
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| adrian_otto | so dansmith and mikal are apparently not aligned yet on where the spec should begin. | 21:43 |
| dansmith | I thought we were | 21:43 |
| mikal | I think we agreed in the end | 21:43 |
| adrian_otto | if I submit a review for a stackforge repo it will take about 9 days for that to happen | 21:43 |
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| mikal | But I can reply to that email | 21:43 |
| adrian_otto | and I want to make progress in the mean time | 21:43 |
| mikal | And then Dan can argue with me if he disagrees | 21:43 |
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| mikal | adrian_otto: what's the slow bit? Infra getting to the review? | 21:44 |
| jogo | adrian_otto: well no matter what the outcome you will need a stackforge repo | 21:44 |
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| adrian_otto | yes, I will make a project repo, and put the spec in there | 21:44 |
| mikal | Cool | 21:44 |
| adrian_otto | I am suggesting we iterate on https://review.openstack.org/114044 until then | 21:44 |
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| jogo | adrian_otto: thanks | 21:44 |
| adrian_otto | with the understanding that I will abandon that | 21:44 |
| mikal | So, we also deferred discussion of possible bp priority errors until now | 21:45 |
| adrian_otto | and make a link to its sucessor | 21:45 |
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| mikal | adrian_otto: yep, but I think that one can stay up for discssion while you wait for your shiney new repo | 21:45 |
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| adrian_otto | mikal: tx. | 21:45 |
| adrian_otto | I'll submit a review for the new repo | 21:45 |
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| mikal | adrian_otto: ping me with the details when you do that and I will see what I can do to speed it up | 21:46 |
| adrian_otto | mikal: ok | 21:46 |
| mikal | We should move on... | 21:46 |
| dansmith | mikal: can you get me out of parking tickets too? | 21:46 |
| mikal | So, does anyone feel we've gotten bp priority for j-3 horribly wrong? | 21:46 |
| mikal | dansmith: yes, yes I can | 21:46 |
| dansmith | sweet | 21:46 |
| mriedem | there are 77 bp's and i haven't looked through the list, so no idea | 21:47 |
| tjones | ok not horriblly - but this one https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/use-oslo-vmware is medium and it is very closely related to the spawn refactor which is high. they are both very critical for us | 21:47 |
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| mikal | tjones: does that one block the spawn refactor? | 21:47 |
| mikal | tjones: or is just related? | 21:47 |
| mikal | i.e. do we have a critical bp depending on a medium bp? | 21:47 |
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| tjones | they are very closely related - but not blocked. i almost would have said the oslo one is higher than the refactor in terms of cleaning up the dirver | 21:48 |
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| mikal | And the code is out for the oslo one? | 21:48 |
| dansmith | tjones: I think what is holding things up is minesweeper | 21:48 |
| tjones | is code is out. minesweeper is limping. | 21:48 |
| tjones | the hardware gets here next week - hurrah! | 21:48 |
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| tjones | of course then it has to be deployed.... | 21:49 |
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| mikal | Stupid physical constraints | 21:49 |
| tjones | lol | 21:49 |
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| mikal | Ok, so how about this... | 21:49 |
| mikal | We can track that one as important, but let's leave it at medium for now | 21:49 |
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| mikal | Until we land some of the other open highs, I worry about diluting attention and getting nothing done | 21:49 |
| tjones | ok sure | 21:50 |
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| tjones | thanks | 21:50 |
| mikal | Thanks for being understadning | 21:50 |
| tjones | np | 21:50 |
| mikal | So... Anything else for open discussion? | 21:50 |
| mikal | Or do you want an early mark? | 21:50 |
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| mikal | Going... | 21:51 |
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| mikal | ...going... | 21:51 |
| mriedem | gone | 21:52 |
| adrian_otto | see you next time | 21:52 |
| mikal | ...gone | 21:52 |
| mikal | Thanks for your time peeps | 21:52 |
| mikal | #endmeeting | 21:52 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 14 21:52:19 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:52 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2014/nova.2014-08-14-21.02.html | 21:52 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2014/nova.2014-08-14-21.02.txt | 21:52 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2014/nova.2014-08-14-21.02.log.html | 21:52 |
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