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tnurlygayanov | hi there! | 16:01 |
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enykeev | hey | 16:01 |
dzimine | hi all, howdy? | 16:02 |
enykeev | Who's going to lead the meeting today? | 16:02 |
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tnurlygayanov | ok, let's start | 16:03 |
tnurlygayanov | #startmeeting Mistral | 16:03 |
openstack | Meeting started Mon Mar 24 16:03:16 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tnurlygayanov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:03 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:03 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Mistral)" | 16:03 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'mistral' | 16:03 |
dzimine | we can follow Renat's email | 16:03 |
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tnurlygayanov | yes | 16:03 |
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dzimine | ok, then, let's start with Manas: | 16:04 |
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tnurlygayanov | what about the action items from the previous meeting? | 16:04 |
dzimine | let me quickly look up... | 16:04 |
nmakhotkin | hi ! | 16:04 |
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manask | hi | 16:04 |
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dzimine | actions from last meeting: 1) -item: rakhmerov and enykeev will start the discussion about the prototype | 16:05 |
dzimine | AFAIK this had happened and Kirill is drafting the prototype | 16:05 |
enykeev | Yep, here is the link https://github.com/enykeev/mistral/pull/1 | 16:06 |
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dzimine | ok, let's review and discuss (may be leave the comments on github pull request?) | 16:07 |
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enykeev | I'm looking froward to your feedback. dzimine, yes, i would prefer to keep the discussion in the pull request. | 16:07 |
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dzimine | #action(all) review and discuss Kirill's stub on MistralTaskflow prototype https://github.com/enykeev/mistral/pull/1 | 16:08 |
enykeev | It would be easier to track it that way | 16:08 |
dzimine | Is Winson here? | 16:08 |
dzimine | anything to talk about the prototype yet, or should we move on? Again, the goal of the TaskFlow-Mistral prototype is described here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mistral-taskflow-prototype | 16:10 |
dzimine | #info the goal and scope of TaskFlow-Mistral prototype is described here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mistral-taskflow-prototype | 16:11 |
dzimine | shall we move on to Manas & Repeater task? | 16:11 |
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igormarnat_ | Just quick question - any changes in planned date of readiness of the POC? End of next week, right? | 16:11 |
igormarnat_ | Sorry if I missed it, just joined | 16:12 |
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dzimine | I think so but don't know for sure (no you don't miss it) | 16:12 |
manask | about repeater - | 16:13 |
dzimine | Last time we synced with Renat he said the priorities are 1) TaskFlow prototype and 2) Repeater - as it is the only thing left on the way to POC | 16:13 |
manask | I worked on an alternate implementation as proposed and discussed with the team | 16:13 |
igormarnat_ | dzimine, got it, thank you! So let's think plan is still the same - somewhere next week | 16:14 |
dzimine | member:igormarnat_: let's agree that POC target stays end of next week. | 16:14 |
manask | review is posted and waiting for comments. | 16:14 |
igormarnat_ | dzimine: ok | 16:14 |
dzimine | Nikolay, Timur, did you have a chance to look at the repeater review? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/80127/ | 16:15 |
manask | as of now I do not see any major objections to the proposed implementation. | 16:15 |
nmakhotkin | I've looked at it already and leave some comments | 16:15 |
dzimine | if we can do a good in-depth review and agreement today, we are well on track to POC. | 16:15 |
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dzimine | nmakhotkin: if there's something BIG to discuss on it, just reach out to Manas on IRC | 16:16 |
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nmakhotkin | dzimine, no, overall looks good | 16:17 |
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nmakhotkin | I just think also about our mistral example job | 16:18 |
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dzimine | ok so Manas please work through the details and once ready, it goes in. @enykeev @winson and @timur please help review. | 16:19 |
manask | sounds good. | 16:19 |
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enykeev | sure, first thing tomorrow morning | 16:19 |
dzimine | nmakhotkin: what in particular re mistral example job/ | 16:19 |
dzimine | Other that we don't have the POC workflow running yet :) | 16:20 |
nmakhotkin | will it be some job with openstack or abstract thing? | 16:20 |
dzimine | oh, right. I understand Renat wanted to run it against true OpenStack. | 16:21 |
dzimine | And we haven't tried yet. | 16:21 |
dzimine | Right? | 16:21 |
nmakhotkin | yes :) | 16:21 |
nmakhotkin | I think we should work with openstack and I'll try to authenticate to some OS service, e.g. Nova | 16:22 |
nmakhotkin | this is also almost implemented | 16:22 |
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nmakhotkin | particularly, forwarding auth_token in headers | 16:22 |
dzimine | ok, should we assign the action to you, Nicolay, to try against a real openstack setup, and ensure that auth_token works ok and we can make Nova call? | 16:23 |
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nmakhotkin | yes | 16:24 |
dzimine | #actino(nmakhotkin): run mistral action against real openstack setup and ensure that auth_token works ok, and a NOVA api call is correctly made. | 16:25 |
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dzimine | Nicolay is done with his tasks as assigned by Renat, it would be good if you focus on POC scenario, + help Manas with review, and review / contribute ideas to TaskFlow prototype. | 16:26 |
igormarnat_ | Yeah, this is a good idea to enforce TF prototype direction. +1 | 16:27 |
nmakhotkin | Agree | 16:28 |
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dzimine | Ok, myself: last week helped enykeev with the prototype directions (or hindered, argued over it ;)) Reviewed and summarized 'async actions' now referring to as 'long running deferred' actions. | 16:29 |
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dzimine | This week, plan to sum up the learning from the prototype for discussion on TaskFlow integration. | 16:30 |
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dzimine | @all: did you see Winson's update, are we generally in agreement? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/81941/ | 16:32 |
nmakhotkin | #action(dzimine): plan to sum up the learning from the prototype for discussion on TaskFlow integration | 16:32 |
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dzimine | I would really like Winson to take a crack on separating workflow engine out and removing hack calling directly engine.convey_task_result() | 16:33 |
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enykeev | yep, me too. Hope this is only a temporary solution | 16:34 |
dzimine | yes it's temp, Renat asked Winson to look at it. This is important for TaskFlow discussion, as the current Mistral implementation doesn't contain a representative model of concurrent workflow executions. Only temp. | 16:35 |
dzimine | I will try and coordinate with Winson. | 16:35 |
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dzimine | tnurlygayanov: Timur, anything on your site? It says, adding tempest tests? | 16:36 |
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tnurlygayanov | no | 16:37 |
tnurlygayanov | so, on this week we just review new code and plan to write new tempest tests with execution of the real workflows | 16:38 |
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dzimine | good | 16:38 |
dzimine | #action(tnurlygayanov) plan to write new tempest tests with execution of the real workflows | 16:39 |
dzimine | we've done going over Renat's directions. | 16:39 |
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dzimine | What else shall we discuss? | 16:39 |
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dzimine | if there is nothing more, we can end earlier. Kirill should be half-asleep now :) | 16:41 |
tnurlygayanov | ok, we will wait for Renat on the next meeting :) | 16:42 |
manask | nothing more from me | 16:42 |
dzimine | Hopefully Renat will be back and kicking. | 16:42 |
tnurlygayanov | dzimine: can you please drive next meeting if Renat will have no the ability to drive them? | 16:42 |
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nmakhotkin | ok, wait for Renat :) | 16:42 |
tnurlygayanov | no, I can kill this meeting :) | 16:43 |
dzimine | Yes: I'll publish the agenda ahead of the time and will drive it. Will take care of meeting notes today. | 16:43 |
tnurlygayanov | #endmeeting | 16:43 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Mon Mar 24 16:43:18 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:43 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2014/mistral.2014-03-24-16.03.html | 16:43 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2014/mistral.2014-03-24-16.03.txt | 16:43 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2014/mistral.2014-03-24-16.03.log.html | 16:43 |
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tnurlygayanov | dzimine: Thank you! | 16:43 |
enykeev | Thanks | 16:43 |
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NobodyCam | #startmeeting Ironic | 19:00 |
NobodyCam | #chair devananda | 19:00 |
NobodyCam | Welcome everyone to the Ironic meeting. | 19:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Mon Mar 24 19:00:02 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is NobodyCam. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Ironic)" | 19:00 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic' | 19:00 |
openstack | Current chairs: NobodyCam devananda | 19:00 |
NobodyCam | Of course the agenda can be found at: | 19:00 |
NobodyCam | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 19:00 |
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NobodyCam | #topic Greetings, roll-call and announcements | 19:00 |
NobodyCam | Who's here for the Ironic Meeting? | 19:00 |
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devananda | hi all! | 19:00 |
adam_g | o/ | 19:00 |
JayF | o/ | 19:00 |
agordeev2 | o/ | 19:00 |
jroll | \o | 19:00 |
Shrews | o/ | 19:00 |
ifarkas | hello o/ | 19:00 |
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linggao | \o | 19:00 |
rloo | hi | 19:00 |
dtantsur | \o/ | 19:00 |
NobodyCam | welcome all :) | 19:00 |
lucasagomes | hey | 19:00 |
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lifeless | o/ | 19:00 |
comstud | o/ | 19:01 |
NobodyCam | hey lifeless glade to see you | 19:01 |
NobodyCam | and welcome everyone else | 19:01 |
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romcheg | o/ | 19:01 |
NobodyCam | announcements: | 19:01 |
GheRivero | o/ | 19:02 |
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mrda_away | o/ | 19:02 |
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NobodyCam | Ironic is in working in tripleO deploys... at least in testing ... not quite ready for production | 19:02 |
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NobodyCam | but we're getting really close | 19:02 |
max_lobur | o/ | 19:02 |
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lifeless | NobodyCam: well, we can deploy from seed, but we can't deploy Ironic from tripleo | 19:03 |
lifeless | NobodyCam: due to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1295503 | 19:03 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1295503 in ironic "ironic nova driver blocks nova-compute startup when ironic isn't available" [Medium,Incomplete] | 19:03 |
NobodyCam | lifeless: that is very true :) | 19:03 |
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devananda | let's come back to tripleo integration bits in a bit | 19:03 |
adam_g | is there an etherpad tracking the tripleO integration and issues similar to the one for devstack? | 19:03 |
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lucasagomes | yeah that would be nice | 19:04 |
NobodyCam | we'll come back to that ... there was | 19:04 |
devananda | I'd like to discuss the open bug list for icehouse RC1 which should be getting tagged by EOW // early next week | 19:04 |
devananda | #link https://launchpad.net/ironic/+milestone/icehouse-rc1 | 19:04 |
NobodyCam | #topic Ironic RC1 milestone | 19:04 |
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devananda | I think we're making good progress fixing bugs but reviews are a bit slow still | 19:05 |
NobodyCam | devananda: should we start up the review jams again | 19:06 |
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lucasagomes | NobodyCam, yeah | 19:06 |
lucasagomes | also I was away last week | 19:06 |
devananda | I know several folks were gone last week | 19:06 |
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comstud | devananda: I posted a partial fix for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1289048, which the bug doesn't seem to reflect | 19:06 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1289048 in ironic "nova virt driver performance issue" [High,Triaged] | 19:06 |
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comstud | which merged | 19:06 |
jroll | I can put aside some time for reviews this week | 19:07 |
romcheg | yup, so I guess we need to clean up the queue | 19:07 |
comstud | The rest of it will require API changes, so | 19:07 |
comstud | I don't think that happens for rc1 | 19:07 |
jroll | and would be up for a review jam | 19:07 |
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devananda | comstud: right. would you mind updating the bug? it may be reasonable to un-target it at this point | 19:07 |
linggao | anyone is working on #1295874default heartbeat_timeout too low, leads to random test failures? | 19:07 |
comstud | Yeah, I'll update it.. I can't untarget it, of course | 19:07 |
NobodyCam | devananda: should https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1295503 be on the rc-1 list? | 19:07 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1295503 in ironic "ironic nova driver blocks nova-compute startup when ironic isn't available" [Medium,Incomplete] | 19:07 |
* devananda untargets it | 19:08 | |
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devananda | NobodyCam: lifeless: AIUI, that is actually "ironic-nova driver blocks nova-compute when keystone is not configured" | 19:09 |
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devananda | if ir-api service is offline, the retry code should handle it | 19:09 |
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lifeless | devananda: at startup ? | 19:09 |
lifeless | I'll tweak the title, its definitely wrong | 19:10 |
devananda | lifeless: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1295870 | 19:10 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1295870 in ironic "ironic.driver does not wrap all icli calls in _retry" [High,Triaged] | 19:10 |
rloo | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1285507 can be closed based on the comments in it. | 19:10 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1285507 in ironic "Improve Ironic Conductor threading & locks" [High,In progress] | 19:10 |
devananda | rloo: ah, right! thanks for pointing that out | 19:10 |
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mrda | rloo: agree | 19:10 |
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lifeless | devananda: so https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1295870 is related, but we'd need an arbitrarily long timeout for startup operations. | 19:11 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1295870 in ironic "ironic.driver does not wrap all icli calls in _retry" [High,Triaged] | 19:11 |
lifeless | devananda: because unlike responses to RPCs, if an error escapes there, startup fails, and nova compute exits | 19:11 |
devananda | lifeless: yea. these are definitely separate-but-related issues | 19:12 |
lifeless | devananda: although it might be ok as long as it stays up long enough for upstart to believe it started | 19:12 |
lifeless | then we can finish the bootstrap | 19:12 |
devananda | lifeless: ack. let's revisit the tripleo startup sequence problem in a bit :) | 19:12 |
lifeless | and upstart will restart it when it does fail | 19:12 |
lifeless | sorry, dog with bone | 19:12 |
lifeless | also C is up now I need to go get her | 19:13 |
NobodyCam | :) | 19:13 |
rloo | dumb question: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1291420 doesn't the fix have to go in nova? | 19:13 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1291420 in ironic "Scheduler not doing exact matching when picking an Ironic Node" [High,Triaged] | 19:13 |
JayF | re: icehouse-rc1 bugs --> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1295874 is on the rc-1 list. Is the desired fix just to bump the default heartbeat_timeout or something more involved? If it's a timeout bump I'll gladly take care of it, if it's something more involved the bug might need more details. | 19:13 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1295874 in ironic "default heartbeat_timeout too low, leads to random test failures" [High,Triaged] | 19:13 |
linggao | davanada, for #1295874 I can take a look at it if it is not taken. | 19:13 |
devananda | JayF: I think that's the only solution we can do now | 19:14 |
NobodyCam | rloo: nova driver and host manager and in our tree atm | 19:14 |
JayF | devananda: I can take care of that today then. | 19:14 |
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rloo | NobodyCam: ah, so we'd add the filter in our tree too. thx. | 19:14 |
devananda | linggao: JayF: doesn't matter to me which of you take it :) | 19:14 |
Shrews | devananda: 1295870 isn't targeted. should it be? | 19:14 |
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devananda | Shrews: it'd be great to have that fixed, yes | 19:15 |
devananda | just not sure how much work that is. might be a lot | 19:15 |
linggao | ou, JayF I did not see your message. | 19:15 |
linggao | JayF it is yours then. | 19:15 |
JayF | linggao: it's OK, we were both thinking about the same thing :) | 19:15 |
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JayF | linggao: ty, was hoping to get a low-hanging-bug for my first direct ironic contribution, and that fits the bill. I'll ping you when it's done for a review if you want. | 19:16 |
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linggao | JayF, sure. :) | 19:16 |
* devananda looks through untriaged bugs | 19:16 | |
NobodyCam | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1285806 has a review that needs a look over | 19:17 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1285806 in ironic "Ironic will poke the node continuously, if it fails to change power state" [Medium,In progress] | 19:17 |
devananda | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1280267 | 19:17 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1280267 in ironic "pxelinux config files: absolute paths and symlinks" [Undecided,New] | 19:17 |
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devananda | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1292733 | 19:17 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1292733 in ironic "unplugging of instance VIFs fails if no VIFs associated with port" [Undecided,New] | 19:17 |
adam_g | devananda, er, thats invalid | 19:17 |
adam_g | let me update | 19:17 |
devananda | thanks | 19:18 |
NobodyCam | devananda: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1280267 should have a map file | 19:18 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1280267 in ironic "pxelinux config files: absolute paths and symlinks" [Undecided,New] | 19:18 |
adam_g | yeah--thats just deployment detail handled in tripleO / devstack / etc | 19:19 |
devananda | NobodyCam: does that need to be fixed for RC ? | 19:19 |
NobodyCam | https://github.com/openstack/tripleo-image-elements/blob/master/elements/ironic-conductor/install.d/68-ironic-tftp-support#L38-L39 | 19:19 |
NobodyCam | ok I added it to the dib element | 19:19 |
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NobodyCam | so devstack prob needs to create | 19:20 |
adam_g | NobodyCam, we adjusted to match what tripleO was doing | 19:20 |
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adam_g | the deploy-ironic element explicitly ffetches its token- file from /tftpboot/token-$foo so whoever sets up the tftpd needs to take that into account | 19:21 |
NobodyCam | adam_g: ya so you'll have a map file if you build with DIB | 19:21 |
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adam_g | NobodyCam, yup, we just laid down a similar map with devstack | 19:21 |
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adam_g | tho we were hitting problems fetching the token file /w tftpd, not the kernel or ramdisk, so i'm not sure about that bug | 19:22 |
NobodyCam | so is this 1280267 a valid bug? | 19:22 |
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NobodyCam | ya maybe some more testing needed | 19:22 |
adam_g | yeah | 19:23 |
adam_g | we can discuss later | 19:23 |
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NobodyCam | devananda: I would not tag that for RC just yet | 19:23 |
devananda | k, untagging | 19:23 |
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devananda | or not taggign :) | 19:24 |
NobodyCam | :) | 19:24 |
devananda | also sounds like you guys aren't sure it's even a bug | 19:24 |
NobodyCam | ya | 19:24 |
NobodyCam | thats almost tftp config | 19:24 |
devananda | adam_g: can you update // mark incomplete ? | 19:24 |
adam_g | devananda, yeah | 19:24 |
devananda | ty | 19:24 |
NobodyCam | :) | 19:25 |
devananda | so we've still got a decent list of bugs to fix | 19:25 |
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devananda | let's plan on meeting 8am PST a couple days this week | 19:25 |
devananda | to plough through them | 19:25 |
NobodyCam | when is the new review jam? | 19:25 |
devananda | ideally, i'd like https://launchpad.net/ironic/+milestone/icehouse-rc1 all green by friday | 19:25 |
NobodyCam | :) I will afk tomorrow from 8:15 pst to about 10 ish | 19:26 |
devananda | *friday morning GMT | 19:26 |
devananda | lucasagomes, romcheg1 - can you guys make 1500 GMT tmw? | 19:26 |
romcheg1 | devananda: I think I can | 19:26 |
jroll | devananda: would non-cores be helpful at these jams? | 19:26 |
devananda | jroll: yes | 19:27 |
lucasagomes | yeah I think it's fine for me as well | 19:27 |
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lucasagomes | jroll, definitely | 19:27 |
jroll | devananda: cool, I'll do my best to make it | 19:27 |
devananda | jroll: we need a minimum of cores present, other folks are very helpful too, as long as we can all stay focused on landing code :) | 19:27 |
jroll | meaning I may be closer to 8:15 PST for some of them :) | 19:27 |
jroll | sure :) | 19:27 |
lifeless | devananda: I can reproduce the 'nvoa delete' does nothing issue btw | 19:27 |
lifeless | devananda: I haven't captured any traces yes (the default logging level appears fairly useless) | 19:28 |
devananda | jroll: start times have not been exact in the past ;) | 19:28 |
jroll | heh | 19:28 |
devananda | lifeless: :( | 19:28 |
NobodyCam | I will have to leave the jam at 8:15 | 19:28 |
devananda | lifeless: bug # ? | 19:28 |
devananda | NobodyCam: we'll probably have one wednesday morning too :) | 19:28 |
lifeless | devananda: I'll file one | 19:28 |
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NobodyCam | :) that I can make :) | 19:28 |
devananda | lifeless: thanks much | 19:29 |
NobodyCam | should we bump the topic to the next one? | 19:29 |
devananda | ok - let's move on | 19:29 |
devananda | heh | 19:29 |
devananda | yes | 19:29 |
NobodyCam | #topic Ongoing integration & testing work | 19:29 |
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adam_g | oh, so we've got an initial non-voting devstack gate check running, which gets us as far as failing tests on half the runs (issues when running on rackspace cloud still being worked out) | 19:30 |
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NobodyCam | again TripleO integration going well, Lifeless jumped in later last week and got things on track for tripleO | 19:30 |
NobodyCam | anyone have anything on devstack? | 19:31 |
devananda | adam_g: the implication from your statement is that it succeeds on half the runs | 19:31 |
adam_g | i've started brainstorming and putting together some functional testing for tempest - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicCI, but we'll likely be blocked on some broader tempest discussions that likely wont happen till post-release / summit | 19:31 |
devananda | adam_g: if that's the case, we can ask infra to target it to just the working cloud | 19:31 |
NobodyCam | dtantsur: you hit a firewall issue this morning with fedora? | 19:31 |
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dtantsur | NobodyCam, yes, and a lot more :) | 19:32 |
dtantsur | firewall issue was with port udp:69 | 19:32 |
devananda | adam_g: that is, if it looks like the issue with xen will be impractical to solve | 19:32 |
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adam_g | devananda, yeah--i think the xen issue can probably be worked around, another patch up for review now to help out with that. will ping infra about it later | 19:32 |
NobodyCam | dtantsur: was that from a fresh install? | 19:32 |
dtantsur | I'm still keeping updating https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/jjWcLDThTK; will work on patch for firewall setting | 19:33 |
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devananda | adam_g: ah, graet | 19:33 |
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NobodyCam | dtantsur: awesome Thank You :) | 19:33 |
dtantsur | NobodyCam, yes. I'm constantly reverting my devstack to clear VM snapshot, the last time was today | 19:33 |
devananda | dtantsur: i know that fedora/RH support is important to some folks, but again, I want to point out that IMO, it shouldn't be a priority for us right now | 19:33 |
adam_g | what is our CI roadmap for the rest of the cycle? is it a top priority still? i'm not sure what we can accomplish right now other than the non-voting check /w failing tempest tests | 19:33 |
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devananda | dtantsur: simply because devstack isn't yet functional(ly tested) on those platforms anyway | 19:33 |
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devananda | dtantsur: so there's no way to ensure that, once you implement it, it doesn't get silently broken upstream again | 19:34 |
NobodyCam | devananda: is 12.04 (same as gate jobs) our supported Distro? | 19:34 |
dtantsur | devananda, I understand, but I hope we're uncovering some braoder issue (e.g. with firewall) | 19:34 |
ifarkas | devananda, same applies to centos? | 19:34 |
dtantsur | * broader | 19:34 |
devananda | adam_g: goal is to get asymmetric tests running ASAP in general, not tied to the Icehouse release cycle | 19:34 |
devananda | ifarkas: yes | 19:35 |
devananda | dtantsur: it sounds like you are -- and I'm sure the folks wokring on broader support for devstack appreciate it :) | 19:35 |
jroll | adam_g: has dwalleck been chatting with y'all about testing at all? | 19:35 |
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devananda | dtantsur: as do I, fwiw, just not as much of a priority for me until there's upstream support for testing it | 19:36 |
adam_g | jroll, yup, he's been working on getting a testable environment up himself | 19:36 |
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jroll | adam_g: awesome, he should be a big help in the near future | 19:36 |
devananda | NobodyCam: 12.04 is what openstack CI tests on today. therefor it's what counts for devstack testing | 19:36 |
NobodyCam | devananda: ack :) | 19:37 |
devananda | for those that might not have it, the context for why devstack/tempest is important even though we're not graduating in Icehouse | 19:37 |
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adam_g | devananda, right--just seems such testing taking place in tempest is not going to be an ASAP thing | 19:37 |
devananda | is that the community will need us to have sufficient integration tests | 19:37 |
devananda | in the gate | 19:37 |
adam_g | there are some broader issues that need resolving in tempest WRT non-default compute drivers | 19:37 |
devananda | for "long enough" to build confidence | 19:37 |
dtantsur | devananda, my current purpose is to collect and triage as many issues with Fedora as it is possible :) not trying to shift overall focus at any rate | 19:37 |
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devananda | adam_g: indeed there are ... do you know if there's a session at the summit yet proposed for that? | 19:37 |
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devananda | adam_g: i spoke with clarkb ~1mo ago, and I think he might have been planning to propose something? | 19:38 |
adam_g | in the shorter term (pre-summit), i propose we lean on old devstack exercises to at least give ironic developers confidence, with tempest testing following later | 19:38 |
devananda | adam_g: ++ | 19:38 |
devananda | adam_g: and it sounds like you can spin that up pretty easily | 19:38 |
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devananda | sdague: any objection to ^ ? | 19:38 |
adam_g | devananda, i need to touch base with #openstack-qa and find that out. i wont be at the summit to drive that, but i know its a broader topic, esp. WRT defcore | 19:38 |
clarkb | devananda: I think sdague is driving it | 19:39 |
sdague | devananda: what am I objecting to? :) | 19:39 |
lifeless | adam_g: hmmm, defcore is a future issue for Ironic, as its not yet integrasted | 19:39 |
devananda | sdague: :) | 19:39 |
adam_g | sdague, we're just discussing where/how testing of a driver like ironic fits in tempest, in terms of defining and testing supported features | 19:40 |
sdague | so, honestly, I wouldn't really bother with exercises, if you can get a simple scenario test instead | 19:40 |
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devananda | sdague: us leveraging devstack exercises in the short-term, while issues around tempest && nova-driver-differences get sorted out | 19:40 |
sdague | it's fine to punt on API right now | 19:40 |
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sdague | but we basically don't run exercises many places, so they are fragile | 19:40 |
sdague | and prone to breaking | 19:40 |
sdague | just have a custom ironic job that skips the API tests for now | 19:41 |
adam_g | okay ill take an action for that ^ | 19:41 |
adam_g | i have a WIP scenario test, just need a good way to run it without the API/scenarios that i know will break | 19:41 |
adam_g | *fail | 19:41 |
devananda | #action adam_g to implement a simple tempest scenario test, skipping the API part for now | 19:41 |
NobodyCam | adam_g: action ? | 19:41 |
NobodyCam | lol devananda beet me to it | 19:41 |
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sdague | I also wonder if eventually we really want to hit ironic through nova api, or just hit the ironic api directly | 19:42 |
devananda | sdague: need to hit it through nova | 19:42 |
devananda | two reasons | 19:42 |
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devananda | we need to test the nova.virt.ironic driver -- taht's an explicit requirement of our graduation | 19:42 |
devananda | and we'd essentially have to rewrite all taht driver code | 19:43 |
NobodyCam | oh that reminds me... | 19:43 |
devananda | if we wanted to test without nova | 19:43 |
devananda | which is silly | 19:43 |
sdague | yeh, fair | 19:43 |
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devananda | we just can't implement the full set of libvirt functionality | 19:44 |
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devananda | hence the need to discuss what driver functionality can/should be tested && how to designate that in the test suite | 19:44 |
devananda | sdague: we'll also probably run into timeout issues | 19:44 |
devananda | eg, PXE bootign nested virt is SLOOOWWWW :( | 19:44 |
adam_g | devananda, the timeouts are all configurable, should be okay there | 19:45 |
sdague | so the way to handle that is get the logic in lib/tempest to set the right enabled things based on virt driver | 19:45 |
devananda | ahh | 19:45 |
devananda | I'm sure we'll talk moer at the summit about all this | 19:45 |
devananda | adam_g: I'm sad you won't make it | 19:46 |
NobodyCam | 15 minutes left.. can we bump topic? | 19:46 |
adam_g | devananda, me too. first time since diablo | 19:46 |
devananda | yep. let's move on. severa things in the open discussion list | 19:46 |
JayF | We still have agent architechture, and 15m will not be a lot of time for that. | 19:46 |
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devananda | #topic Open Discussion | 19:46 |
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lifeless | adam_g: can't make it ? | 19:46 |
devananda | JayF: the full depth of agent arch will not fit into a 1hr meeting anyway :p | 19:46 |
NobodyCam | open floor... | 19:46 |
adam_g | lifeless, unfortunately, no | 19:47 |
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lifeless | tripleo bootstrapping | 19:47 |
lifeless | I'd like to get this unblocked | 19:47 |
lifeless | since an ironic seed with nova-bm undercloud doesn't make a lot of sense | 19:47 |
devananda | but I'd really like to bring this up and find out who's got what interests: ironic as a CMDB // the agent running without ironic at all. | 19:47 |
jroll | ^ | 19:47 |
NobodyCam | I like to throw out there that we need to figure out how to run the nova driver tests... they are already out of date | 19:47 |
jroll | devananda: that's coming from vkozhukalov afaik | 19:48 |
lucasagomes | NobodyCam, yeah :/ I don't think we want to enable that in our tree tho | 19:48 |
JayF | I have an explicit interest in making sure the scope of the agent remains Ironic, as to avoid creating every agent possible/an agent framework rather than an Ironic Python Agent. | 19:48 |
devananda | lifeless: I agree. but IIRC, the initial plan was to get ironic into undercloud and then figure out how to get it into seed. a lot may have changed tho | 19:48 |
lucasagomes | due the nova dependencies that would need to be installed anda ll | 19:48 |
devananda | lifeless: so i'm ++ if there's a way to get it landed in both at once | 19:48 |
vkozhukalov | cmdb is just a use case, nothing more, it is not critical | 19:48 |
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NobodyCam | lucasagomes: we need something I, have landed patches that I know broke the current tests | 19:49 |
agordeev2 | jroll: devananda: i'm also interested in new python agent | 19:49 |
devananda | JayF: i have a very strong interest -- and, practically speaking, a requirement -- to keep IPA <-> ir-cond bindigns very tight | 19:49 |
lifeless | devananda: so, seed works and undercloud fails, today, with my patchsets to incubator/images/templates. | 19:49 |
jroll | agordeev2: I know :) | 19:49 |
jroll | devananda: +1 | 19:49 |
lifeless | devananda: the only reason undercloud fails is the bug I pointed you at about nova-compute startup. | 19:49 |
jroll | vkozhukalov: are you ok with a non-pluggable heartbeat, then? | 19:49 |
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JayF | As a first note; the agent has been fully integrated into Openstack now. | 19:49 |
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JayF | #link http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/ironic-python-agent/ | 19:49 |
devananda | lucasagomes, NobodyCam - I think we can enable the noav.virt.ironic unit tets in our tree IFF we somehow clone the nova repo and make some symlinks | 19:50 |
agordeev2 | JayF: great! | 19:50 |
lucasagomes | NobodyCam, yeah... maybe updating the nova review with the new code and fixing the bugs? | 19:50 |
devananda | lucasagomes: it's not pretty. perhaps someone with more unit test knowledge than I has a better way | 19:50 |
JayF | Which means if you want to contribute, please follow standard workflow, bugtracker/blueprints are shared with Ironic. | 19:50 |
devananda | JayF: woot woot | 19:50 |
lucasagomes | devananda, yeah | 19:50 |
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lucasagomes | worth trying :) | 19:51 |
devananda | lifeless: right. so there's the related but wont fix it bug. But really what I see as the issue is | 19:51 |
JayF | The team here will continue to have a laser-focus to get a working prototype by the summit. Do one thing before we try to do all the things :) | 19:51 |
lucasagomes | JayF, good stuff | 19:51 |
NobodyCam | clarkb: you happen to know know we could test a nova driver thats in the ironic repo? | 19:51 |
devananda | lifeless: you're starting n-cpu + nova.virt.ironic before creating the requried accounts in keystone | 19:51 |
vkozhukalov | jroll: i prefer everything in agent implemented in a pluggable manner | 19:51 |
devananda | lifeless: so even if ir-api/ir-cond were running, it wouldn't matter | 19:51 |
lifeless | devananda: right, which we do for every other service, and only nova-compute w/Ironic driver has an issue | 19:51 |
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jroll | vkozhukalov: heartbeat will always go to ironic. I see no reason to put in the effort to make this pluggable. | 19:52 |
devananda | lifeless: interesting. nova expects the hypervisor to provide some info during init | 19:52 |
jroll | vkozhukalov: we are not building an agent framework, we are building an agent specifically for ironic | 19:52 |
devananda | lifeless: there are several code paths later on in n-cpu's run that aren't goign to be exercized if those things are not initialized | 19:52 |
lifeless | devananda: so I'm not suggesting that we don't run them, just defer it | 19:53 |
lifeless | devananda: rather than failing so fast upstart detects it | 19:53 |
devananda | lifeless: cause n-cpu to block until it becomes available? | 19:53 |
lifeless | devananda: for instance yes | 19:53 |
lifeless | just poll every 5 seconds say | 19:53 |
devananda | lifeless: so taht will render a huge back-log if any other nova service attempts to send RPC messages to n-cpu | 19:53 |
lifeless | cluster init will proceed asynchronously | 19:53 |
lifeless | devananda: yes, so you'd want to log a WARNING | 19:54 |
lifeless | 'Cannot connect to Ironic <...>' or something | 19:54 |
devananda | vkozhukalov: ironic agent should not be designed in a way that does not assume it will talk to ironic | 19:54 |
NobodyCam | five (5) minute WARNING | 19:55 |
devananda | vkozhukalov: which seems to be waht you are proposing | 19:55 |
adam_g | doesn't nova currently do the same /w DB and MQ connections at startup? | 19:55 |
lifeless | adam_g: not meaningfully | 19:55 |
vkozhukalov | jroll: devananda: ok, let's start from tight version, not pluggable | 19:56 |
devananda | another POV on this issue is that, from nova's perspective, the configured hypervisor is unavailable | 19:56 |
devananda | thus nova-compute can't perform its job | 19:57 |
lucasagomes | so the etherpad u guys are using to track the agent decisions is the https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/282Ocf7oXR? | 19:57 |
lucasagomes | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/282Ocf7oXR | 19:57 |
jroll | lucasagomes: discussion started here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicPythonAgent | 19:57 |
NobodyCam | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/282Ocf7oXR | 19:58 |
JayF | An etherpad doesn't seem to be an awesome interface for the discussion to happen and decisions be reached though, honestly | 19:58 |
lucasagomes | ack cheers jroll | 19:58 |
jroll | the etherpad you linked is something I made as a draft of the new wiki page | 19:58 |
devananda | time's almost up -- lifeless, let's continue in a bit. I want to solve this, just not sure how | 19:58 |
lifeless | devananda: I don't expect n-c to perform its job | 19:58 |
NobodyCam | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicPythonAgent | 19:58 |
lifeless | devananda: just to not bail and exit | 19:58 |
jroll | and is my attempt at a cleaned up version of the named etherpad | 19:58 |
devananda | jroll: vkozhukalov: who added all the mentions of a CMDB to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicPythonAgent ? | 19:58 |
jroll | not I | 19:58 |
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JayF | devananda: I believe those were there in the initial etherpad, which was put together by vkozhukalov iirc | 19:58 |
jroll | I believe that was vkozhukalov but not 100% sure | 19:59 |
NobodyCam | *BEEP* One minute *BEEP* | 19:59 |
lucasagomes | JayF, heh indeed, but it's good to have some documentation somewhere | 19:59 |
vkozhukalov | devananda: i added | 19:59 |
NobodyCam | can we continue in channel? | 19:59 |
jroll | ^ | 19:59 |
JayF | I think we should take jroll's proposed wiki page, make it the wiki page, and put arch discussions in there/in a blueprint | 19:59 |
devananda | vkozhukalov: ack. let's talk :) | 19:59 |
devananda | thanks everyone! let's continue in channel - we've got a few good discussions going now | 19:59 |
JayF | The etherpad is not a well organized or well attributed way to figure out what is good | 19:59 |
NobodyCam | thank you all for a great meeting | 19:59 |
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ifarkas | thanks | 20:00 |
devananda | #endmeeting | 20:00 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Mon Mar 24 20:00:05 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:00 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2014/ironic.2014-03-24-19.00.html | 20:00 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2014/ironic.2014-03-24-19.00.txt | 20:00 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2014/ironic.2014-03-24-19.00.log.html | 20:00 |
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mestery | o/ | 21:01 |
salv-orlando | aloha! | 21:01 |
arosen | Hiya! | 21:01 |
lukego | hoi | 21:01 |
SumitNaiksatam | hi all! | 21:01 |
rkukura | hi | 21:01 |
marun | hui | 21:01 |
dkehn | hi | 21:01 |
Sam-I-Am | hello | 21:01 |
enikanorov_ | hi | 21:01 |
sc68cal | hello | 21:01 |
markmcclain | hi | 21:01 |
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banix | hi | 21:01 |
fawadkhaliq | hello all! | 21:01 |
obondarev | hi | 21:01 |
yamahata | hello | 21:01 |
pcm_ | hi | 21:01 |
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jlibosva | hi | 21:01 |
emagana | hola! | 21:01 |
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mrsmith_ | hi all | 21:02 |
armax | yello | 21:02 |
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markmcclain | nati_ueno, amotoki: ping | 21:02 |
nati_ueno | hi | 21:02 |
markmcclain | #startmeeting Networking | 21:02 |
openstack | Meeting started Mon Mar 24 21:02:53 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is markmcclain. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:02 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:02 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking' | 21:02 |
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markmcclain | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings agenda | 21:03 |
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markmcclain | #topic Announcements | 21:03 |
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markmcclain | #link https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/icehouse-rc1 | 21:03 |
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markmcclain | We're are in the process of trying to branch RC1 | 21:04 |
markmcclain | if you have a new bug that is not critical please tag it icehouse-rc-potential | 21:04 |
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markmcclain | any bug that merges via the normal review process before RC1 is cut will be added to the RC1 milestone | 21:05 |
markmcclain | if you discover a critical or high bug please tag the bug and contact me prior to targeting to RC1 | 21:05 |
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markmcclain | At this point we should be less than 10 bugs (and we're 20+), so we'll need to make sure we can iterate on the reviews swiftly | 21:06 |
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markmcclain | Also reviewers should be on the lookout for string changes | 21:07 |
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markmcclain | as revising strings this late in the cycle add extra work for the translators | 21:07 |
markmcclain | Any questions? | 21:07 |
emagana | I dont see an owner for this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1244255 | 21:08 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1244255 in neutron "binding_failed because of l2 agent assumed down" [High,In progress] | 21:08 |
markmcclain | #topic Bugs | 21:08 |
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emagana | uvirtbot: thinking about the same | 21:08 |
uvirtbot | emagana: Error: "thinking" is not a valid command. | 21:08 |
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markmcclain | emagana: that was on my list to discuss | 21:08 |
markmcclain | looks like uvirtbot is back after a few weeks away :) | 21:09 |
salv-orlando | I think the bot comes from a totalitarian country | 21:09 |
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* mestery welcomes uvirtbot back. | 21:09 | |
markmcclain | rkukura did't you request this bug to reopened last week | 21:09 |
markmcclain | ? | 21:09 |
salv-orlando | mestery | 21:09 |
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salv-orlando | I welcome the bot as well, even if he urges us not to think | 21:10 |
salv-orlando | or she for what I know ;( | 21:10 |
rkukura | markmcclain: I was just suggesting that the merge changing the heartbeat times may have helped it | 21:10 |
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mestery | salv-orlando: :P | 21:10 |
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markmcclain | oh so I can close this again? | 21:10 |
mestery | Does it still show up markmcclain? | 21:11 |
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sc68cal | salv-orlando: haha | 21:11 |
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salv-orlando | from what I recall it does not, but the issue was that the patch did not actually fix the underlying issue? | 21:11 |
markmcclain | mestery: looking at the logstash query no | 21:12 |
salv-orlando | even if it tweaked things in a way that the problem does not occur anymore in gate/check tests | 21:12 |
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salv-orlando | but I have blurred memories, made worse by beer | 21:12 |
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markmcclain | I'm closing and if it reappears we'll open a new bug with a better query | 21:12 |
markmcclain | salv-orlando: you mean scotch | 21:12 |
rkukura | markmcclain: +1 | 21:13 |
mestery | +1 to that markmcclain | 21:13 |
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emagana | I second motion! | 21:13 |
markmcclain | We have 2 critical bugs | 21:13 |
markmcclain | jlibosva: how is the grenade work progressing? | 21:14 |
markmcclain | mestery: any chance to look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1291535 ? | 21:14 |
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uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1291535 in neutron "'Unable to retrieve OVS kernel module version' when _not_ using DKMS openvswitch module " [High,Triaged] | 21:14 |
mestery | markmcclain: I plan to look at this afternoon after the meeting yet. I'll have an update in a few hours. | 21:14 |
jlibosva | markmcclain: tempest tests fail after upgrade due to empty vif_details column | 21:14 |
markmcclain | mestery: sounds good | 21:15 |
markmcclain | jlibosva: ok so we have an incomplete migration? | 21:15 |
jlibosva | I wrote an email on openstack-dev earlier this day how to deal with it | 21:15 |
salv-orlando | ok thanks! | 21:15 |
markmcclain | jlibosva: ah I missed that | 21:15 |
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jlibosva | markmcclain: no, it's because vif_details column is new in Icehouse in ml2 port bindings table | 21:16 |
jlibosva | scheme changed successfully | 21:16 |
rkukura | jlibosva: Is this after running the migration tool? | 21:16 |
jlibosva | rkukura: no, but I guess it wouldn't help because havana was already using ml2 | 21:16 |
jlibosva | afaik the tool is lb/ovs -> ml2 | 21:17 |
rkukura | jlibosva: Or just upgrading ml2 from havana->icehouse? | 21:17 |
jlibosva | rkukura: yes, upgrading ml2 havana -> icehouse | 21:17 |
markmcclain | jlibosva: the tools should be ml2 -> ml2 | 21:17 |
rkukura | My fix for https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1276391 actually should fix that | 21:17 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1276391 in neutron "ML2 MechanismDriver.bind_port() called inside transaction" [High,In progress] | 21:17 |
jlibosva | great, I probably missed the latest patchset | 21:17 |
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rkukura | the fix isn’t quite ready for review yet | 21:18 |
salv-orlando | rkukura: still targeting rc-1 for that? | 21:18 |
rkukura | it is, and is getting very close to ready for review | 21:18 |
salv-orlando | so we're not cutting until this is ready? | 21:19 |
markmcclain | ideally we should have code posted for this | 21:19 |
markmcclain | rkukura: when can we get this into review | 21:19 |
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rkukura | I keep saying tomorrow | 21:20 |
markmcclain | Once I classify this as a blocker the release management team the release management team will want a hard commitment | 21:20 |
markmcclain | if you're short bandwidth to work on this we'll need to find someone else to pick up the task | 21:21 |
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markmcclain | also how what is the expected size of this fix? | 21:22 |
rkukura | I will get it into review tomorrow | 21:22 |
markmcclain | hmmm :/ | 21:22 |
markmcclain | no chance of getting something today? | 21:22 |
rkukura | maybe | 21:22 |
marios_ | hello all, sorry am late | 21:22 |
salv-orlando | Is the patch relatively small and contained… because otherwise we will need to take in account time for review, as well | 21:23 |
enikanorov_ | rkukura: may it make sense to push draft patch so someone could pick it up? | 21:23 |
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enikanorov_ | or wip patch | 21:23 |
rkukura | I’ll do a WIP tonight if its not ready | 21:24 |
markmcclain | rkukura: if you got time we'll chat offline after the meeting, so I've got the details for the release team | 21:24 |
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salv-orlando | sounds good to me. | 21:24 |
rkukura | markmcclain: OK | 21:24 |
markmcclain | Any bugs the team needs to discuss? | 21:24 |
HenryG | This one https://review.openstack.org/40296 ? | 21:25 |
HenryG | I think it may be too risky for icehouse. | 21:25 |
enikanorov_ | tquite dangerous at this point, no? | 21:25 |
nati_ueno | I'm rebasing 21946, struggling with UT failure because this patch touches many plugins, but I think i can push new version in few hours | 21:25 |
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nati_ueno | so please review it | 21:26 |
nati_ueno | after I push it | 21:26 |
salv-orlando | I think 40296 is one of those patches for which unit tests ensure correct functionality… but it's still rather large | 21:26 |
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salv-orlando | also enikanorov_ you might want to add your views regarding the comments you had 6 months ago | 21:26 |
enikanorov_ | not so blurred your memory is, eh? | 21:27 |
enikanorov_ | :) | 21:27 |
enikanorov_ | salv-orlando: as far as practice with drivers goes, I'm fine with this change | 21:28 |
markmcclain | HenryG: let's keep working on this | 21:28 |
markmcclain | create_all() causes lots of problems | 21:28 |
* mestery has heard the horrors of create_all(). | 21:28 | |
HenryG | Biggest problem wit 40296 is that quotas table migration is missing in most plugins. | 21:29 |
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markmcclain | nati_ueno: thanks for the heads up on 21946 | 21:29 |
salv-orlando | also… technically the patch is not targeted to RC-1. So we can keep working on it, and defer the decision to when we'll see it as mature enough | 21:29 |
enikanorov_ | the only thing I'm thinking about is revisiting those patches dedicated to fixing migration errors | 21:29 |
enikanorov_ | and synching models with migrations | 21:29 |
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markmcclain | enikanorov_: I've seen those bugs in reviews | 21:29 |
markmcclain | and we've been merging the fixes as their ready | 21:29 |
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enikanorov_ | ok | 21:30 |
markmcclain | Any other critical/high bugs? | 21:30 |
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rkukura | Any update on the VIF security fix? | 21:30 |
nati_ueno | rkukura: I'm rebasing, and facing many UT failures . IMO, I can push new patch in few hours | 21:31 |
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pcm_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/81124/3 is ready for review. | 21:31 |
salv-orlando | nati_ueno: can you remind me if this patch also has a nova counterpart? | 21:32 |
rkukura | nati_ueno: Great! I’ll review it ASAP | 21:32 |
markmcclain | pcm_: I'll take a look after the meeting | 21:32 |
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pcm_ | markmcclain: thanks | 21:32 |
nati_ueno | salv-orlando: yes. This one has nova patch too | 21:32 |
nati_ueno | rkukura: Thanks | 21:32 |
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nati_ueno | salv-orlando: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/44596/ | 21:33 |
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salv-orlando | thanks nati-ueno | 21:33 |
markmcclain | nati_ueno: I'm concerned this patch is abandoned | 21:33 |
nati_ueno | markmcclain: I'll restore just now | 21:33 |
markmcclain | because that increases the chance it will fall off the Nova teams radar | 21:34 |
nati_ueno | markmcclain: you are right. sorry. I just restored | 21:34 |
nati_ueno | This patch will fail without neutron side fix, | 21:35 |
markmcclain | RC1 are supposed to be cut _this week_ | 21:35 |
nati_ueno | so I focused on the neutron side | 21:35 |
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enikanorov_ | question on bugs/fixes: was there any bugs affecting floating IP connectivity that were found/introduced/fixed recently? 18-24 of march? | 21:35 |
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enikanorov_ | does anyone aware of a case? | 21:35 |
markmcclain | enikanorov_: to my knowledge no | 21:35 |
enikanorov_ | i see | 21:36 |
salv-orlando | not that my aware of | 21:36 |
enikanorov_ | i'm asking because there was a spike in lbaas scenario failures 18-20 of march so we had to disable it in the gate. | 21:36 |
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enikanorov_ | but not changes were done to lbaas that could affect the test | 21:36 |
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markmcclain | enikanorov_: I thought there were changes to tempest that enabled a flaky test | 21:37 |
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markmcclain | ok I think we've covered critical bugs, so lets move onto docs | 21:38 |
markmcclain | #topic Docs | 21:38 |
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markmcclain | emagana: hi | 21:38 |
emagana | markmcclain: Hi There! | 21:38 |
emagana | Good progress this week! I updated the wiki | 21:38 |
emagana | the work around the re-structure of the Networking Installation Guide is going on | 21:39 |
emagana | We need more eyes on: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/81983/ | 21:39 |
markmcclain | ok | 21:39 |
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* Sam-I-Am wrote 81983 | 21:39 | |
Sam-I-Am | also working on the rest of the install guide | 21:40 |
emagana | most of the bugs are WIP or will be covered by this BP: | 21:40 |
markmcclain | ok so this is something that we can have multiple community members look at | 21:40 |
emagana | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+spec/networking-install-guide-improvements | 21:40 |
emagana | and this one: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+spec/improve-networking-cloud-admin-guide | 21:40 |
* phil_h looking at it also | 21:40 | |
markmcclain | Sam-I-Am: thanks for working on the docs | 21:41 |
markmcclain | phil_h: thanks for looking at it | 21:41 |
emagana | marun is helping on the RedHat side! | 21:41 |
Sam-I-Am | markmcclain: no problem. i want the process to launch a VM using neutron to be as easy as possible | 21:41 |
marun | emagana: not by much :\ we're waiting on new RDO packages (in QA as of yesterday) | 21:41 |
Sam-I-Am | markmcclain: with an understanding of whats going on | 21:41 |
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markmcclain | emagana: looks like we're in good shape on the priority doc bugs | 21:42 |
markmcclain | and the medium ones look to be good too | 21:42 |
emagana | so far, so good! Thanks everybody! | 21:42 |
Sam-I-Am | marun: once phil_h and i have a working rhel/rdo environment, we will add ML2 specific items to the install guide | 21:43 |
Sam-I-Am | so far only ubuntu works | 21:43 |
marun | Sam-I-Am: understood | 21:43 |
markmcclain | Sam-I-Am: good to know | 21:43 |
markmcclain | emagana: any other doc items? | 21:43 |
emagana | no more! | 21:44 |
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markmcclain | emagana: thanks for updating | 21:44 |
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emagana | markmcclain: n.p.! | 21:45 |
markmcclain | Looks like Nova Parity has been updated and is mostly same as last week for time let's skip to Tempest | 21:45 |
markmcclain | #topic Tempest | 21:45 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Tempest (Meeting topic: Networking)" | 21:45 | |
markmcclain | salv-orlando, rossella_: Have been studying the Full tempest job | 21:46 |
salv-orlando | mostly rossella_s | 21:46 |
markmcclain | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-March/030907.html | 21:46 |
salv-orlando | rossella_ ? | 21:46 |
rossella_ | yes! | 21:46 |
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rossella_ | I wrote everything in the mail that markmcclain linked | 21:46 |
markmcclain | rossella_: thank you for sending out the latest update | 21:47 |
rossella_ | markmcclain: np! | 21:47 |
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salv-orlando | bottom line is that check failure rate is 25% but at least 45% of those failures are not because of failures in neutron | 21:47 |
salv-orlando | that puts us in a worst case scenario of 13% failure rate | 21:47 |
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salv-orlando | next steps is to look at the bugs rossella reported to see which ones need to be addressed | 21:48 |
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markmcclain | ok | 21:48 |
rossella_ | they are all known bugs | 21:48 |
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salv-orlando | and push some sort of dummy patch to have an estimate which excludes errors in patches under review | 21:48 |
markmcclain | oh so push more patches like translations | 21:49 |
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markmcclain | or something that does not change logic? | 21:49 |
salv-orlando | the first you wrote | 21:49 |
markmcclain | ok | 21:49 |
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salv-orlando | markmcclain: what would be an acceptable failure rate? | 21:50 |
salv-orlando | 0%? | 21:50 |
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markmcclain | yes anything greater and we run a risk of causing problems in the community | 21:50 |
rossella_ | anyway top 2 bugs in my list are tempest/infra bugs | 21:50 |
enikanorov_ | so, sorry for bringing it up again, we have tempest scenario test for lbaas skipped due to some strange error. right now it's a slight suspicion that https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1293818 may be responsible, which is fixed by https://review.openstack.org/#/c/81537/ | 21:51 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1293818 in neutron "Agents don't need root to list namespaces" [Medium,In progress] | 21:51 |
markmcclain | we might need to compare to the baseline for other projects | 21:51 |
marun | enikanorov_: how would that have anything to do with it? | 21:51 |
marun | enikanorov_: not using root would simply reduce the use of rootwrap and its performance hit | 21:52 |
enikanorov_ | marun: i can explain after the meeting | 21:52 |
markmcclain | enikanorov_: we can discuss in open discussion or after meeting | 21:52 |
marun | enikanorov_: ok | 21:52 |
markmcclain | want to focus on testing with remaining time | 21:52 |
marun | btw, we have a functional job that allows sudo invocation... | 21:52 |
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marun | it's success rate is 100% since coming online this week. i'd like to move it to voting asap | 21:52 |
mestery | marunb: Cool! That's awesome! | 21:52 |
markmcclain | marun: awesome | 21:53 |
marun | (basically because it only runs 4 tests) | 21:53 |
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mestery | marun: :P | 21:53 |
marun | but it opens the door to all kind of investigative testing that tempest isn't good for | 21:53 |
markmcclain | marun: have to start somewhere | 21:53 |
markmcclain | so back to the full job | 21:53 |
markmcclain | looks like rossella_ and salv-orlando have a good handle on it for now | 21:53 |
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markmcclain | when there are actionable items for the rest of the team feel free to ask in IRC or on the mailing list | 21:54 |
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rossella_ | markmcclain:thanks...I will keep monitoring the full job | 21:54 |
markmcclain | rossella_ and salv-orlando thanks again for working on this as it is a big item for parity with the rest of the community | 21:54 |
rossella_ | :) | 21:55 |
markmcclain | mlavalle: I know we're running short of time anything else to highlight for tempest? | 21:55 |
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mestery | thanks rossella_ and salv-orlando! | 21:55 |
mlavalle | the agenda is updated with the latest status, so we can move on | 21:55 |
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mlavalle | good progress last week | 21:56 |
markmcclain | mlavalle: thank you for updating | 21:56 |
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markmcclain | good see the progress the team has made | 21:56 |
markmcclain | #topic Open Discussion | 21:56 |
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markmcclain | Looks like the rest of the agenda has been updated with sub team reports | 21:57 |
markmcclain | Any items that need to raised with the whole team in the time remaining? | 21:57 |
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salv-orlando | might this be the first time we finish a meeting with two minutes to spare? | 21:58 |
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markmcclain | salv-orlando: I'm going to make you wait 2 minutes :) | 21:58 |
enikanorov_ | two minutes are too short to start meaningful discussion | 21:58 |
enikanorov_ | unless it's about scotch or beer | 21:58 |
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Sam-I-Am | must be missing something... | 21:59 |
Swami | Posted a couple of blueprints for review. | 21:59 |
Swami | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/neutron-auditlogging #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/neutron-port-template-framework #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/neutron-port-template-policy | 21:59 |
marun | the ml2 migration script still needs reviews: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/76533/ | 21:59 |
markmcclain | marun: thanks for raising that review | 21:59 |
markmcclain | marun: I'll follow up with you after the meeting since we're out of time | 22:00 |
marun | markmcclain: ok | 22:00 |
banix | Bye | 22:00 |
marun | ciao | 22:00 |
markmcclain | I know we discussed many bugs this week, but closing them is crucial to a successful to the RC | 22:01 |
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markmcclain | Thanks to everyone for their hard work on polishing this release | 22:01 |
markmcclain | Have a good week and talk to everyone on the ML and IRC | 22:01 |
markmcclain | #endmeeting | 22:01 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Mon Mar 24 22:01:41 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:01 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2014/networking.2014-03-24-21.02.html | 22:01 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2014/networking.2014-03-24-21.02.txt | 22:01 |
salv-orlando | adieuuuu | 22:01 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2014/networking.2014-03-24-21.02.log.html | 22:01 |
jlibosva | good night | 22:01 |
edhall | bye | 22:01 |
Sam-I-Am | seeya | 22:01 |
obondarev | Bye | 22:02 |
fawadkhaliq | bye | 22:02 |
markmcclain | salv-orlando: sorry we ran over :p | 22:02 |
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Sukhdev | bye | 22:04 |
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enikanorov_ | markmcclain: could you please revisit https://review.openstack.org/#/c/81537/ ? carl_baldwin has commented on it | 22:15 |
markmcclain | enikanorov_: I'll take a look after dinner | 22:16 |
enikanorov_ | markmcclain: thanks | 22:16 |
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