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devananda | Hi! who all is here for the Ironic meeting? | 19:00 |
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lucasagomes | o/ | 19:00 |
NobodyCam | o/ | 19:00 |
agordeev2 | o/ | 19:00 |
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rloo | me | 19:00 |
romcheg1 | o/ | 19:00 |
romcheg1 | partially | 19:00 |
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linggao | me | 19:01 |
devananda | #startmeeting Ironic | 19:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Mon Jan 27 19:01:26 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is devananda. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Ironic)" | 19:01 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic' | 19:01 |
devananda | #chair NobodyCam | 19:01 |
openstack | Current chairs: NobodyCam devananda | 19:01 |
devananda | As usual, our agenda's here -- https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic | 19:01 |
NobodyCam | Welcome all | 19:01 |
GheRivero | o/ | 19:01 |
NobodyCam | short agenda today :) | 19:01 |
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devananda | could end up being a short meeting, but who knows if we'll side track :) | 19:02 |
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devananda | small snnouncement: we cut a milestone as with all the other projects last week | 19:02 |
NobodyCam | Saw the email about that | 19:02 |
dkehn | o/ | 19:02 |
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max_lobur_cell | o/ | 19:03 |
devananda | this was more about getting the process down than actually producing a stable build, but it was, afaict, stable for the things we've implemented so far | 19:03 |
devananda | things are looking good to me for our progress towarsd graduation -- keep up the good work! | 19:04 |
devananda | mostly, we need deploy to really work. we're so close but could really use folks focusing on taht right now | 19:04 |
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devananda | let's take a look at open BPs and high pri bugs | 19:04 |
devananda | #topic blue prints | 19:04 |
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devananda | #link https://launchpad.net/ironic/+milestone/icehouse-3 | 19:05 |
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devananda | ok,we have 2 essential BPs for i3 no tdone yet | 19:05 |
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devananda | romcheg: think you'll be able to start on the db migration from nova-baremetal soon? or have you already and I missed it? | 19:06 |
romcheg | devananda: I'll submit all I did this week | 19:06 |
devananda | dkehn: i've seen a lot of comments (and left some) on your neutron patch. anything more I can do to facilitate getting that done ASAP? | 19:06 |
devananda | romcheg: great, thanks! | 19:06 |
NobodyCam | romcheg: awesome | 19:07 |
dkehn | working on it at present, lifeless has left comments on it concerning I it will be used, which is good | 19:07 |
devananda | linggao: do i remember correctly that you're working on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ironic/+spec/serial-console-access ? | 19:07 |
dkehn | it really depends upon the reviews, I'm taking care of them as I get them | 19:07 |
devananda | linggao: or working with sun on that, i mean | 19:07 |
linggao | devananda, Sun Jing is working on it. | 19:08 |
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devananda | also, has anyone gotten the neutron patch to work in a deployment, in conjunction with the nova driver yet? | 19:08 |
lucasagomes | nop, I'm setting up tripleo to start working on that right now | 19:08 |
devananda | linggao: ah, sorry. I don't usually see sun at the meetings, just you | 19:09 |
* NobodyCam notes that I should have a new rev of the driver up today. I tried (and failed) to have it up for hte meeting | 19:09 | |
lucasagomes | probably will have something to say about it by tomorrow (day's almost finishing here) | 19:09 |
devananda | lucasagomes: awesome, ty | 19:09 |
linggao | davadanda, it's her night time. 3am in the morning. :-) | 19:09 |
linggao | She will finish the console with ipmitool. | 19:09 |
devananda | linggao: ah! that's a good reason not to be in the meetings :) | 19:09 |
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devananda | linggao: ok, thanks | 19:10 |
linggao | She has transfered other blueprints to me but his one. | 19:10 |
linggao | his/this | 19:10 |
devananda | fwiw, the other 3 BPs currently targeted to i3 may get bumped -- depending on review bandwidth, etc | 19:11 |
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lucasagomes | the ephemeral partition one I think is already in good progress, there's two patches waiting for review that makes ironic | 19:11 |
lucasagomes | create an ephemeral partition at deploy time | 19:11 |
devananda | lucasagomes: awesome work on that, btw. i know it's mostly just porting from nova, but still ... :) | 19:12 |
lucasagomes | and the next one teachs ironic hw to preserve that partition if you redeploy the machine | 19:12 |
lucasagomes | yea mostly adapting the nova code to ironic | 19:12 |
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NobodyCam | lucasagomes: do you recall the deploy timeout issue we chatted about a week or so ago. did we get a bug or bp for that? | 19:12 |
lucasagomes | and maybe we need to add a redeploy to the ironic driver as well | 19:12 |
lucasagomes | NobodyCam, there's a bug for that | 19:12 |
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dkehn | lifeless: pong | 19:12 |
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lucasagomes | devananda, opened | 19:12 |
dkehn | lifeless: pong | 19:13 |
devananda | lucasagomes: let's chat about redeploy towards the end of meeting | 19:13 |
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NobodyCam | lucasagomes: ack TY | 19:13 |
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devananda | lucasagomes: i would like to know what you mean, but not sidetrack yet :) | 19:13 |
dkehn | sorry wrong window | 19:13 |
devananda | any other questions/comments/blockers on blue prints, before we move on? | 19:13 |
lucasagomes | NobodyCam, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1270986 | 19:13 |
lucasagomes | dendrobates, ack | 19:13 |
devananda | lol | 19:13 |
NobodyCam | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1270986 | 19:13 |
NobodyCam | TY lucasagomes | 19:14 |
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lucasagomes | devananda, ack* | 19:14 |
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devananda | #topic bugs | 19:14 |
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devananda | first thing is, i'd like to ask that any developers filing bugs, who have a sense of the project's needs (as ya'll probably do by now) | 19:14 |
devananda | also triage them | 19:14 |
NobodyCam | devananda: I believe the above bug should be i-3 | 19:15 |
devananda | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/BugTriage | 19:15 |
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devananda | so, eg, if you spot a problem and file a bug, please set the status to triaged and the importance to the appropriate level | 19:16 |
devananda | see taht link for a description of the different meanings of the fields | 19:16 |
devananda | and if you're working on fixing a bug, please set the milestone target if you think you'll have a fix by a certain time | 19:16 |
devananda | thanks :) | 19:16 |
devananda | any particular open bugs that folks want to bring up? | 19:17 |
devananda | either you're blocked fixing it, or you think the priority is wrong (too low? too high?) | 19:17 |
devananda | or you think it's essential to fix by i3 but it's not listed on https://launchpad.net/ironic/+milestone/icehouse-3 ... | 19:17 |
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lucasagomes | the timeout one is tricky | 19:18 |
devananda | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1270986 | 19:18 |
devananda | yea | 19:18 |
linggao | what is the target date for i3? | 19:18 |
devananda | march 6 | 19:18 |
linggao | I see. | 19:18 |
devananda | there's a feature freeze deadline of feb 22, i believe | 19:18 |
rloo | which means mar 4 to get the changes in? | 19:18 |
devananda | see the ML for the discussions | 19:18 |
lucasagomes | cause in order to use an periodic task you will have to break the lock to be able to acquire the node object and set it's provision_state to error | 19:19 |
lucasagomes | not only that, we will also have to stop the job | 19:19 |
lucasagomes | which is running in the background | 19:19 |
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devananda | basically, that means any major new code needs to be proposed ~2 weeks before the FF so folks can have tiem to review it and iterate | 19:19 |
devananda | hm, i should have announced that at the beginning... | 19:19 |
linggao | So after March 6, no more code check in? | 19:19 |
devananda | linggao: after mar6, only bug fixes and docs, unless you get a feature-freeze-exception to continue working on an essential feature for the release | 19:20 |
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linggao | got it. | 19:20 |
devananda | lucasagomes: exactly. and i dont think we've got a solution yet for "interrupt the background job" | 19:20 |
NobodyCam | feature-freeze-exception come from TC's only? | 19:20 |
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devananda | NobodyCam: PTL | 19:21 |
lucasagomes | devananda, yup, I was thinking about somehow use max_lobur_cell patchs | 19:21 |
NobodyCam | ack | 19:21 |
lucasagomes | to have an interface to stop the thread | 19:21 |
devananda | lucasagomes: that creates the thread, but does it let us SIG_INT the thread? | 19:21 |
max_lobur_cell | devananda, lucasagomes, its possible to cancel background job | 19:21 |
devananda | max_lobur_cell: awesome - how? | 19:21 |
lucasagomes | yea, if we had a thread pool or something | 19:21 |
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lucasagomes | where I could get that future object and somehow call a stop() | 19:22 |
max_lobur_cell | I'd like to discuss after | 19:22 |
max_lobur_cell | exactly | 19:22 |
devananda | max_lobur_cell: sounds good | 19:22 |
lucasagomes | idk about sending a signal to the thread | 19:22 |
lucasagomes | unless we do it with multiprocessing | 19:22 |
max_lobur_cell | but there are other ways | 19:22 |
lucasagomes | that would allow us to send a signal to stop that process | 19:22 |
devananda | lucasagomes: right - i was using SIG_INT as an expression, not literally :) | 19:23 |
lucasagomes | gotcha | 19:23 |
lucasagomes | well we can use the signal python lib for that then | 19:23 |
lucasagomes | I think | 19:23 |
devananda | so that is the only _critical_ bug that we have open today,w hich is great | 19:23 |
lucasagomes | that would make things more difficult to port ironic to windows for e.g | 19:23 |
max_lobur_cell | I'll ping you guys after | 19:24 |
devananda | fwiw, critical bug == hold off the release until it's fixed | 19:24 |
lucasagomes | as signal is unix only... but we don't have to mind about it now as well | 19:24 |
devananda | and i think this bug is that bad that we must fix it before Icehouse release | 19:24 |
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max_lobur_cell | once I get back to my laptop :-) | 19:24 |
NobodyCam | devananda: ++ | 19:24 |
devananda | any other bugs folks are concerned about ? | 19:24 |
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devananda | *are particularly concerned about | 19:24 |
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devananda | ok, moving on ... | 19:26 |
devananda | #topic Tempest tests | 19:26 |
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devananda | we're still waiting on -infra to merge the tempest API functional tests into the pipeline | 19:26 |
devananda | they were really busy last week... :) | 19:27 |
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NobodyCam | ya, | 19:27 |
devananda | other than that, I'm hoping agordeev2 // romcheg // etc might have some updates on devstack/tempest functional testing with VMs? | 19:27 |
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agordeev2 | devananda: right! i'm fully concentraced on it | 19:28 |
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devananda | agordeev2: awesome! how's it going? need anything from me? | 19:28 |
agordeev2 | devananda: it's going fine. I think we'll have working patchset before the mid of i3 :) | 19:29 |
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agordeev2 | devananda: no, no need of anything from you. thank you | 19:30 |
devananda | agordeev2: ok, thanks! | 19:30 |
devananda | #topic nova driver | 19:30 |
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devananda | NobodyCam: that's you :) | 19:30 |
NobodyCam | yep | 19:30 |
NobodyCam | I have a update to puch up as soon as I correctly rebase the driver | 19:30 |
NobodyCam | I am getting the node to the deploying state | 19:31 |
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NobodyCam | I hope to be testing with dkehn's patch today | 19:31 |
devananda | awesome | 19:32 |
devananda | any idea when it'll be ready for review by nova team? | 19:32 |
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NobodyCam | if things go well today. I hope to jump in to test writting | 19:32 |
dkehn | NobodyCam: look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/66071/11, working on it a bit to deal with lifeless review | 19:32 |
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NobodyCam | so maybe by next meeting? (i hope) | 19:33 |
NobodyCam | dkehn: ack will look after meeting | 19:33 |
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devananda | NobodyCam: need anything from me / others? | 19:34 |
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NobodyCam | oh quietion ya | 19:34 |
NobodyCam | we use mock | 19:34 |
NobodyCam | nova appers to still be using mox | 19:34 |
NobodyCam | any pref there? | 19:34 |
devananda | yea | 19:34 |
devananda | mock :) | 19:35 |
NobodyCam | :) | 19:35 |
devananda | all projects should be moving twoarsd py3 compat | 19:35 |
devananda | mox is one of the things holding nova back | 19:35 |
NobodyCam | that what I thought | 19:35 |
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dkehn | is mox is or out? | 19:35 |
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max_lobur_cell | devananda + | 19:35 |
devananda | mox is not py3 compat, last i heard | 19:35 |
devananda | it definitely shouldn't be used in ironic, and if we're adding unit tests to other projects (eg, nova) it's nice of us to use mock instead | 19:36 |
dkehn | thx | 19:36 |
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NobodyCam | any question for me on the nova driver? | 19:36 |
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devananda | not from me. anyone else? | 19:37 |
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devananda | i'm going to skip the next agenda item (devstack) since agordeev2 already gave an update on it, unless anyone has questions on taht topic | 19:37 |
devananda | #topic tripleo | 19:38 |
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devananda | several of the patches to add ironic support to tripleo have merged, there's at least one more still in progress | 19:38 |
devananda | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/66461/1 | 19:38 |
NobodyCam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/69013/1 | 19:39 |
devananda | also, lucasagomes raised a question in channel earlier | 19:39 |
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devananda | whether we're adding ironic to the seed or undercloud VMs and why | 19:39 |
devananda | so i'd like to clarify that in case others are wondering | 19:39 |
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devananda | seed has some extra bits (init-no-cloud-init, or something like that) so it can run without cloud-init available | 19:40 |
NobodyCam | I have a update ALMOST ready for 66461 | 19:40 |
matty_dubs | If you pardon the stupidity, what would be the use case for baking Ironic into the seed/UC VMs? | 19:40 |
devananda | i believe the elements are otherwise the same as for undercloud | 19:40 |
devananda | so we're adding it to undercloud first and once that's working, will add it to seed | 19:40 |
NobodyCam | matty_dubs: a working ironic | 19:40 |
devananda | matty_dubs: it's replacing nova's baremetal driver | 19:40 |
devananda | matty_dubs: so instead of seed and undercloud using nova+baremetal, it will use nova+ironic | 19:41 |
devananda | s/it/they/ | 19:41 |
matty_dubs | Oh, whoops, _under_cloud. I'm with you now. :) | 19:41 |
lucasagomes | :) | 19:41 |
devananda | :) | 19:41 |
NobodyCam | :) | 19:41 |
devananda | anyone else experimenting with tripleo + ironic? | 19:41 |
devananda | questions? comments? | 19:42 |
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matty_dubs | I'm ostensibly at the intersection of the two, though not too heavily involved with TripleO at the moment. | 19:42 |
matty_dubs | Now that I don't have undercloud and overcloud confused (it's Monday!), it seems like it would be pretty useful. | 19:42 |
devananda | matty_dubs: are you working on tuskar? | 19:43 |
matty_dubs | devananda: I came from Tuskar, and my focus is starting to shift to Ironic. Largely in support of Tuskar. | 19:43 |
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devananda | matty_dubs: great. welcome! | 19:43 |
matty_dubs | Thanks! :) | 19:43 |
devananda | matty_dubs: you'll probably want to poke at our API a bunch, and getting tuskar to talk directly to it for enrolling / status / etc | 19:44 |
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matty_dubs | Yes, was looking at precisely that last week :) | 19:45 |
devananda | if there's nothing else specific to our progress to integrate with tripleo, let's jsut open the floor | 19:45 |
devananda | #topic open discussion | 19:45 |
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NobodyCam | just wanted to say AWESOME job everyone | 19:46 |
lucasagomes | devananda, at the beginning of the meeting I said that we probably will have to add a way to "redeploy" in the ironic driver for nova | 19:46 |
lucasagomes | I meant rebuild | 19:46 |
NobodyCam | lucasagomes: how would you see that getting used | 19:47 |
NobodyCam | s/how/when/ | 19:47 |
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lucasagomes | NobodyCam, I think TripleO is already planning to use that on this cycle | 19:47 |
devananda | lucasagomes: as in, upgrade the image | 19:48 |
lucasagomes | lifeless, sent an email to the openstack-dev list today I think | 19:48 |
NobodyCam | for upgrades | 19:48 |
lucasagomes | dendrobates, yes | 19:48 |
NobodyCam | :) | 19:48 |
lucasagomes | devananda, yes | 19:48 |
devananda | lucasagomes: or "put new image on same node without wiping the ephemeral" | 19:48 |
devananda | ok | 19:48 |
lucasagomes | yea update the deployed image | 19:48 |
lucasagomes | without removing all the user data | 19:48 |
devananda | there was a patch up to implement a "redeploy", which would ostensibly re-trigger a deploy when the previous attempt failed mid-way | 19:48 |
NobodyCam | devananda: have the link handy? | 19:49 |
devananda | i blocked that one because, if something fails, i think exposing the equivalent of F5 is terrible | 19:49 |
lucasagomes | I see... that's useful as well :) but yea I confused the words I meant rebuild instead of redeploy | 19:49 |
devananda | lucasagomes: actually i think it's anti-useful | 19:49 |
devananda | why not just "delete" + "deploy" ? | 19:50 |
devananda | but anyway, for tripleo's needs, re-image is very useful | 19:50 |
lucasagomes | devananda, well, if the redeploy is smart enough to tell the scheduler to pick another node (ignore the one that failed, not try to redeploy on it) | 19:50 |
lucasagomes | I think it's kinda the same as delete and deploy again | 19:51 |
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lucasagomes | kinda like an alias for both action | 19:51 |
devananda | lucasagomes: at the nova level, taht will happen with automatic scheduler retries | 19:51 |
lucasagomes | actions* | 19:51 |
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devananda | lucasagomes: actually, i dont think the scheduler is issuing deletes for the failures, but i'll check | 19:51 |
devananda | #action devananda to check if nova-scheduler issues DELETE for failed attempts prior to RETRY | 19:52 |
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lucasagomes | devananda, right, hmm... that would be important to it to call delete | 19:52 |
lucasagomes | so we can do a tear_down() and remove all the config files | 19:52 |
lucasagomes | generated for that node that failed to deploy | 19:52 |
devananda | lucasagomes: ironic doesn't need to expose retry in its API because teh logic for that is external. we don't have an internal scheduler today | 19:52 |
lucasagomes | inlcuding the auth_token etc | 19:52 |
devananda | lucasagomes: exactly | 19:52 |
devananda | but we do need to expose "reimage" | 19:53 |
devananda | that can't be accomplished with any other combination of actions today | 19:53 |
lucasagomes | I see | 19:53 |
matty_dubs | 'reimage' is for the upgrade use case, where you want to leave guests intact, but upgrade the operating system / OpenStack install, correct? | 19:53 |
devananda | matty_dubs: yep | 19:54 |
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NobodyCam | devananda: would that be needed for graduation? | 19:54 |
devananda | NobodyCam: nope | 19:55 |
lucasagomes | yea that logic about "redeploy" should live in the ironic driver for e.g not in our APi directly | 19:55 |
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devananda | however, tripleo needs it for their story | 19:55 |
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devananda | lucasagomes: ++ | 19:55 |
lucasagomes | the driver can call the delete+deploy, but understand both actions as "redpeloy" | 19:55 |
devananda | lucasagomes: new bug that you'll be interested in; https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1272599 | 19:56 |
devananda | i had some time to chat with krow late on friday and he pointed that issue out | 19:56 |
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lucasagomes | hmm will take a look | 19:57 |
lucasagomes | devananda, this only affects ironic!? | 19:58 |
NobodyCam | two minute bell | 19:58 |
lucasagomes | I bet it affects many other projects | 19:58 |
devananda | lucasagomes: heh. probably affects other projects too ... | 19:58 |
lucasagomes | our factory resources like is used by many others | 19:59 |
lucasagomes | yea | 19:59 |
matty_dubs | Is caching a POST RFC-legal? | 19:59 |
lucasagomes | matty_dubs, idk, I will google it | 19:59 |
lucasagomes | but that looks hmm, odd | 19:59 |
devananda | yea | 19:59 |
matty_dubs | lucasagomes: Ah, I can. Was mostly just curious/surprised. | 19:59 |
NobodyCam | Thats time folks | 20:00 |
devananda | lucasagomes: we also talked about 200 vs 201 vs 202 return codes | 20:00 |
devananda | thanks everyone! see you next week :) | 20:00 |
devananda | #endmeeting | 20:00 |
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lucasagomes | devananda, right... let's go to the channel | 20:00 |
NobodyCam | :) | 20:00 |
openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jan 27 20:00:19 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:00 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2014/ironic.2014-01-27-19.01.html | 20:00 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2014/ironic.2014-01-27-19.01.txt | 20:00 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2014/ironic.2014-01-27-19.01.log.html | 20:00 |
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sarob | Sorry I'm late | 20:17 |
sarob | Milk team here | 20:17 |
sarob | ? | 20:17 |
matty_dubs | I don't think there's any meeting here at the moment. | 20:17 |
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matty_dubs | I forgot to leave after the Ironic meeting which ended 15 minutes ago. No discussion has happened since then. | 20:18 |
sarob | Okay thx | 20:18 |
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sarob | Anyone from the milk Dev team online? | 20:21 |
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nati_ueno | hi | 20:59 |
enikanorov_ | hey | 20:59 |
marun | hi | 20:59 |
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jlibosva | hi | 20:59 |
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rkukura | hi | 21:00 |
Swami | hi all | 21:00 |
markmcclain | hi | 21:00 |
mestery | o/ | 21:00 |
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SumitNaiksatam | hi all! | 21:00 |
sc68cal | hello | 21:00 |
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emagana | hello! | 21:01 |
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IanGovett | hi | 21:01 |
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beagles | hi | 21:02 |
markmcclain | #startmeeting Networking | 21:02 |
openstack | Meeting started Mon Jan 27 21:02:26 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is markmcclain. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:02 |
armax | hello | 21:02 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:02 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking' | 21:02 |
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markmcclain | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings | 21:03 |
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markmcclain | #topic Announcements | 21:03 |
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markmcclain | #info Feature Proposal Deadline is Feb 18th | 21:03 |
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salv-orlando | a slightly late aloha to everybody | 21:03 |
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markmcclain | I-3 features must in review by end of day on the 18th | 21:03 |
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markmcclain | this will enable the team time to review | 21:04 |
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markmcclain | #link https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/icehouse-3 | 21:05 |
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markmcclain | #topic Bugs | 21:05 |
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markmcclain | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?search=Search&field.importance=Critical&field.status=New&field.status=Confirmed&field.status=Triaged&field.status=In+Progress | 21:05 |
markmcclain | We have 6 critical bugs we're tracking | 21:05 |
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Sukhdev | Hi | 21:06 |
markmcclain | salv-orlando has been working on https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1273386 | 21:06 |
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salv-orlando | sdague and russellb are actually doing the actual stuff (upgrading kernel in node pool and devstack) | 21:07 |
salv-orlando | I just limited myself to reading the logs ;) | 21:07 |
russellb | yeah, it's a WIP ... https://review.openstack.org/#/c/69445 | 21:07 |
russellb | we're going to start with doing it as a new experimental job so we can make sure the new kernel doesn't make the world explode | 21:08 |
russellb | i have a few more infra pieces to change before we can light it up | 21:08 |
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marun | is there any indication if a recent patch is causing this kernel issue to manifest? | 21:09 |
salv-orlando | marun: tried a few reverts with no luck, issue still occurring | 21:09 |
marun | salv-orlando: :( | 21:09 |
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marun | still, I suppose it's good motivation to stop running an ancient kernel in the gate. | 21:10 |
salv-orlando | we're shooting for a kernel issue now, but it should not be excluded an issue with utilities such as iputils | 21:10 |
russellb | salv-orlando: can you update https://review.openstack.org/#/c/69448/ ? | 21:10 |
salv-orlando | russellb: sure | 21:11 |
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russellb | so the kernel bug has been happening for as long as we have history in logstash (2 weeks) | 21:12 |
russellb | so could have been going much longer | 21:12 |
markmcclain | that is my guess | 21:12 |
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salv-orlando | I checked a few occurrences (well just two) of bug 1254890 before 2014/01/15 and did not find kernel crashes | 21:13 |
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russellb | salv-orlando: ah.. | 21:13 |
banix | bye | 21:14 |
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salv-orlando | anyway, I don't want to sound rude, but perhaps it would be sufficient to say that everybody interested in helping us could jumo in either #openstack-infra, #openstack-qa, #openstack-neutron and #openstack-gate | 21:15 |
banix | sorry wrong window. | 21:15 |
salv-orlando | as I guess there is also a need to move forward with the meeting agenda | 21:15 |
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markmcclain | yeah coordinating on IRC will be super helpful | 21:16 |
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markmcclain | moving onto other bugs | 21:16 |
markmcclain | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1270212 | 21:16 |
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markmcclain | There is a fix for this bug, but it is currently blocked by isolated job failures | 21:17 |
samuelbercovici | hi | 21:17 |
markmcclain | Any of the the other bugs we need discuss? | 21:17 |
salv-orlando | just to say darragh pushed and had merged a patch in tempest | 21:18 |
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salv-orlando | related to bug 1253896 which raises the ping timeout to 120 seconds | 21:18 |
markmcclain | ok good to know | 21:18 |
salv-orlando | this will avoid the issue we sometimes see with the 1st dhcpdiscover being missed, and ping timing out because of this | 21:18 |
markmcclain | nice | 21:19 |
salv-orlando | I'm sorry I don't know Darragh's IRC handle | 21:19 |
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sdague | is there any understanding on why the isolated jobs suddenly went to 70% fail rates? | 21:19 |
sdague | because they were working 2 weeks ago | 21:19 |
markmcclain | no still have not identified the change that caused the breakage | 21:20 |
salv-orlando | I reverted a few commits, and could not single out a specific change. I'm not even sure it is a neutron change. | 21:20 |
salv-orlando | just saying, every time the neutron isolated job fails, the kernel bug is there. | 21:21 |
salv-orlando | but I don't have data to prove 100% correlation | 21:21 |
marun | salv-orlando: and does an upgraded kernel fix things? | 21:22 |
salv-orlando | marun: I found out this only on friday evening. Still did not have time to set up a new repro env. Other people from the community are helping here. See the patch russellb posted earlier during the meeting. | 21:22 |
marun | salv-orlando: ok | 21:23 |
markmcclain | ok.. we talk more about the kernel bug in the channel after the meeting | 21:23 |
markmcclain | let's keep moving for now | 21:23 |
markmcclain | #topic Docs | 21:23 |
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markmcclain | emagana: hi | 21:23 |
emagana | hello! | 21:23 |
emagana | markmcclain: Still working on HA at the moment | 21:24 |
emagana | Will update the wiki with the BP and Gerrit Commit | 21:24 |
markmcclain | ok | 21:24 |
markmcclain | any other doc items to highlight? | 21:24 |
emagana | There is a meeting organized by Doc team on 1/29 | 21:25 |
emagana | I am planning to attend it | 21:25 |
markmcclain | great | 21:25 |
Sukhdev | I had sent an email on Neutron API - this seems to fall into docs area | 21:25 |
emagana | nothing else from by side | 21:25 |
markmcclain | emagana: thanks for updating | 21:25 |
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markmcclain | Sukhdev: the API docs do fall into that area | 21:25 |
EmilienM | emagana: let me know if you need quick reviews | 21:26 |
markmcclain | #topic Nova Parity | 21:26 |
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beagles | hi | 21:26 |
emagana | EmilienM: will do! | 21:26 |
markmcclain | beagles: looks like you made lots of agenda updates | 21:26 |
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beagles | yes.. but unfortunately the were of the form of "nothing changed" and "not done" kind of deals | 21:26 |
beagles | last week was hectic for lots of folks for a variety of reasons (good ones) | 21:27 |
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beagles | but we should be able to get some of this stuff nudged along this week | 21:27 |
markmcclain | great | 21:27 |
Sukhdev | markmcclain, emagana: perhaps the docs need to be updated to reflect the correct behavior of API usage | 21:27 |
annegentle | Sukhdev: have you logged a bug like these? https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-api-site/+bugs | 21:28 |
beagles | in the case of the bugs against API implementation we'll need to figure out how they fit in the current icehouse schedule.. while the code lives in nova repo, it will need a neutron resource to implement them | 21:28 |
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annegentle | Sukhdev: you can use the tag netconn-api | 21:28 |
markmcclain | beagles: right | 21:28 |
Sukhdev | annegentle: will do - thanks | 21:29 |
emagana | Sukhdev: all API miss configuration should follow up by bug in launchpad, feel free to add any to the wiki | 21:29 |
beagles | arosen has several irons in the fire already for that code so we'll likely be triaging in the truest sense of the word :) | 21:29 |
markmcclain | true | 21:29 |
annegentle | emagana: have you been able to meet with NickChase or others on the separate Networking guide start? | 21:29 |
beagles | but nothing new besides | 21:30 |
markmcclain | beagles: thanks for updating | 21:30 |
annegentle | (woops, sorry the topic already changed, emagana just let me know outside of the meeting, that's fine) | 21:30 |
emagana | annegentle: ok | 21:30 |
markmcclain | #topic Tempest | 21:30 |
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markmcclain | mlavalle: hi | 21:30 |
mlavalle | Hi | 21:30 |
markmcclain | looks like we have a bunch of open reviews | 21:30 |
mlavalle | I want to highlight that all the tests in the api gap analysis have been claimed | 21:31 |
markmcclain | that's good news | 21:31 |
mlavalle | every topic has an owner now | 21:31 |
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mlavalle | all the people trained in Montreal are actively contributing patchsets | 21:31 |
mlavalle | so my priority over the ned few weeks is now code review and help them merge their code | 21:32 |
markmcclain | that's great news | 21:32 |
markmcclain | Any tempest questions for mlavalle? | 21:32 |
HenryG | Special thanks to mlavalle for training several people on how to write tempest tests. | 21:32 |
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mlavalle | Do we have a limitation on the Neutron side to start merging Tempest code? | 21:32 |
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mlavalle | HenryG: Thanks for your patchste> I reviewed yesterday | 21:33 |
markmcclain | mlavalle: if the code passes gating then it should be eligible for merging | 21:33 |
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markmcclain | if you're concerned that we need some neutron cores to take a look | 21:34 |
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markmcclain | we can work improving coverage | 21:34 |
mlavalle | ok, I'll take that message to the Tempest meeting on Thursday | 21:34 |
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mlavalle | and as the code gets ready I will help for help for some reviews | 21:34 |
mlavalle | ask^^^^ | 21:34 |
mlavalle | that's all I have | 21:34 |
markmcclain | mlavalle: thanks for update | 21:35 |
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markmcclain | #topic L3 | 21:35 |
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markmcclain | This is a new report this week | 21:35 |
carl_baldwin | Not much yet. | 21:35 |
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carl_baldwin | Initial focus will be around building community around DVR/HA routers and building consensus. | 21:35 |
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carl_baldwin | I've added a link to the subteam wiki from the Neutron meeting wiki page. | 21:35 |
carl_baldwin | Please review the link and contact me if you desire to participate as a part of this sub team. | 21:36 |
carl_baldwin | One question is how should this sub team relate to and interact with the established DVR sub team? | 21:36 |
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markmcclain | I think that DVR is a specific use case | 21:36 |
mestery | markmcclain: +1 to that | 21:37 |
markmcclain | whereas the L3 subteam is coordinating the bigger picture | 21:37 |
lifeless | how far away is DVR/HA routers? We're discussing that as a deliverable for the next tripleo iteration... | 21:37 |
lifeless | and whether we do it within neutron or by layering something on top ? | 21:38 |
markmcclain | lifeless: my current feeling is that it's not ready for merging in Icehouse | 21:38 |
Swami | We are still in the process of refining the design | 21:38 |
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mestery | lifeless: There is a meeting in 2 weeks around this in the bay area, there was a thread on the ML announcing it. | 21:38 |
Swami | may not be ready for Icehouse. We may have a WIP code by Icehouse 3 but will not be ready for Icehouse | 21:38 |
carl_baldwin | HA routers has some code up but I have not reviewed its progress yet. | 21:39 |
lifeless | jog0: ^ you might like to pop your head into that meeting | 21:39 |
carl_baldwin | k, that is all I have. | 21:39 |
dkehn | NobodyCam: saw that, did something make it into the master | 21:39 |
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dkehn | sorry wrong win | 21:40 |
Swami | For DVR discussion we are planning to have a face to face meeting in the Bay on the Week of Feb 10th. If interested please send me an email. | 21:40 |
markmcclain | carl_baldwin: thanks for leading this subteam | 21:40 |
carl_baldwin | Glad to help. | 21:40 |
markmcclain | #topic IPv6 | 21:40 |
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markmcclain | sc68cal: hi | 21:40 |
sc68cal | Hello | 21:40 |
jog0 | lifeless: looking at email | 21:40 |
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sc68cal | I am currently working to address a concern by a Nova core who has -2'd the IPv6 hairpin fix | 21:40 |
sc68cal | There appears to have been a race condition with using the utils.is_neutron function - so I am pivoting to use a config flag in nova.conf to enable/disable hairpin behavior on bridge interfaces | 21:41 |
jog0 | sc68cal: that was me | 21:41 |
* jog0 hates race conditions | 21:41 | |
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sc68cal | Hopefully we can avoid any race conditions by just using a config flag, lift the -2 from the core reviewer, and get this closed | 21:42 |
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sc68cal | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/62599/ | 21:42 |
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jog0 | sc68cal: I'll lift the -2 once I see the unit tests passing reliably (re: run recheck no bug a few times) | 21:42 |
sc68cal | We also have reached a consensus on the two new attributes to add to Subnets, for v6 options | 21:42 |
sc68cal | jog0: Thank you | 21:43 |
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sc68cal | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-January/025573.html IPv6 subnet attributes | 21:43 |
sc68cal | Input from core devs would be appreciated | 21:43 |
sc68cal | I plan on updating the review I had that added one new attribute, to add the second | 21:44 |
markmcclain | ok.. I'll weigh in on the mailing list | 21:44 |
markmcclain | Anything else to raise? | 21:44 |
sc68cal | Not at this point - thank you. | 21:45 |
markmcclain | sc68cal: thanks for the update | 21:45 |
markmcclain | #topic ML2 | 21:45 |
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markmcclain | rkukura and mestery: hi | 21:45 |
mestery | hi | 21:45 |
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rkukura | hi - go ahead mestery | 21:45 |
mestery | So, we've started tracking new ML2 MechanismDrivers which have been proposed in our weekly IRC meeting. | 21:45 |
mestery | We encourage authors of those patches to please join the weekly ML2 IRC meeting to become aware of any ML2 changes affecting them. | 21:46 |
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markmcclain | great | 21:46 |
mestery | We're also finalzing some plans on port-binding now which will affect all MDs. | 21:46 |
mestery | Hope to have this finalized by this week's meeting now. | 21:46 |
mestery | Those are the bigs things with ML2. | 21:47 |
markmcclain | ok | 21:47 |
markmcclain | Any questions for ML2? | 21:47 |
mestery | That's all for now, more detail in our Wednesday meeting | 21:47 |
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markmcclain | mestery: thanks for updating | 21:47 |
rkukura | I've also been working with the PCI passthru / SR-IOV team who will be adding a new MechansimsDriver | 21:47 |
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markmcclain | rkukura: cool | 21:48 |
markmcclain | #topic VPN | 21:48 |
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markmcclain | nati_ueno: hi | 21:48 |
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markmcclain | we have this review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/58897/ | 21:49 |
nati_ueno | ok rajesh is working on agent implemenation | 21:49 |
nati_ueno | also | 21:49 |
nati_ueno | yes. Hopefully, We can get two cores for that one | 21:49 |
markmcclain | ok was going to ask about the implementation | 21:49 |
markmcclain | remember before we said that we wanted a working implementation to review alongside the API | 21:49 |
nati_ueno | Ah OK | 21:49 |
markmcclain | we can do code/API design reviews | 21:50 |
nati_ueno | I got it. We will request review after we have working implementation. | 21:50 |
markmcclain | but it's nice to actually test end to end | 21:50 |
markmcclain | ok sounds good | 21:50 |
nati_ueno | I agree | 21:50 |
nati_ueno | I think we can make client and agent working until FF deadline, | 21:50 |
nati_ueno | so hopefully, we can make ssl-vpn in icehouse | 21:51 |
markmcclain | ok | 21:51 |
markmcclain | #topic FWaaS | 21:51 |
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markmcclain | I know we said that we wanted to wait until after I-2 before activating FWaaS in the gate | 21:51 |
SumitNaiksatam | hi | 21:51 |
SumitNaiksatam | yeah, so SridarK has been working on testing that | 21:51 |
markmcclain | until the isolation tests are working I think we probably want to defer | 21:51 |
SumitNaiksatam | markmcclain: ok sure | 21:52 |
SumitNaiksatam | the update is promising though | 21:52 |
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markmcclain | great | 21:52 |
SumitNaiksatam | so far he was able to run FWaaS and VPNaaS concurrently | 21:52 |
markmcclain | ah cool | 21:52 |
SumitNaiksatam | we had tried this before as well, but he did more manual tests now | 21:52 |
SumitNaiksatam | we are not making a final call on this yet | 21:52 |
SumitNaiksatam | but i think we are looking good to propose this | 21:52 |
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markmcclain | ok | 21:53 |
SumitNaiksatam | markmcclain: so whenever its a good time, we can consider this | 21:53 |
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markmcclain | ok.. let's revisit this next week | 21:53 |
SumitNaiksatam | other than that, we are still sitting on our two main patches - one for service type framework support, and | 21:53 |
SumitNaiksatam | the other one for the service insertion | 21:53 |
markmcclain | looks like both need some review attention | 21:54 |
SumitNaiksatam | yeah, they haven't gotten much core tlc yet, but hopefully soon | 21:54 |
SumitNaiksatam | after all the other bigger issues with the gate and tests are resolved | 21:54 |
markmcclain | yeah.. I think that makes sense | 21:54 |
SumitNaiksatam | thats it from me | 21:54 |
markmcclain | Thanks for updating | 21:55 |
markmcclain | #topic LBaaS | 21:55 |
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enikanorov_ | hi | 21:55 |
enikanorov_ | we get 3 major items on review - loadbalancer instance, ssl and l7 resources for lbaas api | 21:55 |
enikanorov_ | agreed to present implementation of l7 and ssl with haproxy | 21:55 |
enikanorov_ | yet to decide the way of securing communication between the server and the agent | 21:56 |
enikanorov_ | i've sent out an email to openstack-dev on this | 21:56 |
markmcclain | ok | 21:57 |
enikanorov_ | also, it would require to add ability to pass file name to CLI to upload the cert | 21:57 |
markmcclain | right | 21:57 |
markmcclain | Anything else? | 21:57 |
enikanorov_ | anyone welcome to review! :) | 21:58 |
markmcclain | #topic General Discussion | 21:58 |
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samuelbercovici | hi | 21:58 |
samuelbercovici | there is small change: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/64139/ | 21:58 |
enikanorov_ | right, we had a big discussion with jaypipes on that | 21:59 |
enikanorov_ | the bottom of the question is do we want service flavors in this form | 22:00 |
markmcclain | I am not a big fan of this approach | 22:00 |
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salv-orlando | I think when I talked with a few other people on irc and gerrit about this specific patch, the bottom line is that it was a work-around to circumvent a limitation of the current provider mechanisms, which would need what enikanorov is saying for a proper fix | 22:00 |
enikanorov_ | markmcclain: could you suggest the alternative? | 22:00 |
markmcclain | I'd like to see a proper flavor framework | 22:01 |
enikanorov_ | i mean that once we decided that providers are configuration-based object it would be hard to base db-based objects on top of providers | 22:01 |
salv-orlando | and I have expressed my opinion that we should strive to stop accepting workarounds which result in technical debt (because anything for which we say "it will be fixed later on" is technical debt I think) | 22:01 |
salv-orlando | so to cut a long story short I agree with markmcclain. | 22:01 |
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markmcclain | salv-orlando: +1 | 22:01 |
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emagana | I have a question about this commit: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/61663/ Is there anyone against this fix? Specially markmcclain and mestery, any ML2 concerns? | 22:02 |
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mestery | emagana: Checking | 22:02 |
enikanorov_ | markmcclain: salv-orlando: i'll be glad to move discussion to neutron channel | 22:02 |
mestery | emagana: Nope, I have even given it +2 in the past :) | 22:02 |
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emagana | mestery: if you provide your +2 again I will approve it | 22:03 |
markmcclain | emagana: I'd like to see rechecked by jenkins before approving | 22:03 |
emagana | markmcclain: agree | 22:03 |
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samuelbercovici | enikanorov_: markmcclain: salv-orlando: can we move to neutron channel to continue discussing this? | 22:03 |
markmcclain | enikanorov_: that works | 22:03 |
markmcclain | We're at time for this week.. thanks for stopping by talk to everyone on the mailing list or IRC | 22:04 |
markmcclain | #endmeeting | 22:04 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jan 27 22:04:18 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:04 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2014/networking.2014-01-27-21.02.html | 22:04 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2014/networking.2014-01-27-21.02.txt | 22:04 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2014/networking.2014-01-27-21.02.log.html | 22:04 |
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markmcclain | samuelbercovici: I've got about 10-15min | 22:04 |
nati_ueno | bye! | 22:04 |
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marun | bye! | 22:05 |
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