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| NobodyCam | ya meeting time | 19:00 |
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| dkehn | here | 19:00 |
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| devananda | hi all! | 19:01 |
| devananda | #startmeeting ironic | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jun 17 19:01:37 2013 UTC. The chair is devananda. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 19:01 | |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic' | 19:01 |
| GheRivero | hi all | 19:01 |
| devananda | looks like not much has changed on the agenda, but we have a few things to talk about | 19:02 |
| devananda | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic | 19:02 |
| epim | wooo, meetingtime! | 19:02 |
| devananda | #topic object model | 19:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "object model (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 19:02 | |
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| devananda | so | 19:03 |
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| devananda | romcheg and i have been working on the object model | 19:03 |
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| devananda | i think it's done enough at this point, | 19:03 |
| devananda | though one more part is still in review | 19:03 |
| devananda | nested dicts -- https://review.openstack.org/#/c/33082/3/ironic/objects/utils.py | 19:03 |
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| devananda | i was hoping romcheg would be here to talk about objects, but he's not | 19:04 |
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| romcheg | hmm | 19:04 |
| romcheg | I'm going to call him :) | 19:04 |
| devananda | oh! there he is | 19:04 |
| devananda | :P | 19:04 |
| devananda | so, anything to say about object, db models, etc? | 19:05 |
| romcheg | I fonutd a strange thing | 19:05 |
| NobodyCam | we had questions this morning about a db api spec | 19:05 |
| romcheg | Some models are not defined in ironid.db.models but are defined in ironic.db.sqlalchemy.models | 19:06 |
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| devananda | yes. ironic.db.models is old and i'm deleting it in review 33082 | 19:06 |
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| romcheg | Ah, exactly | 19:07 |
| anteaya | o/ | 19:07 |
| devananda | i'm also removing ironic.api.model | 19:07 |
| romcheg | I'm also working on chassis | 19:07 |
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| romcheg | Yeah, I remember reviewing this one | 19:08 |
| devananda | i think we'll end up with 3 classes describing things | 19:08 |
| devananda | db.sqlalchemy.models | 19:08 |
| devananda | db.sqlalchemy.models.Thing | 19:08 |
| devananda | objects.thing.Thing | 19:08 |
| romcheg | We might also need MetaData objects | 19:09 |
| devananda | api.controllers.v1.Thing | 19:09 |
| devananda | romcheg: metadata objects for what? | 19:10 |
| romcheg | As I recall, we need MetaData for everything. Shouldn't that be a common thing for nodes, ports, etc? | 19:10 |
| devananda | ah, right | 19:11 |
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| devananda | so at the moment, i dont know what will be stored in that metadata field | 19:11 |
| romcheg | Me neither :) | 19:11 |
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| romcheg | So yes, I think we can leave without that now | 19:12 |
| devananda | i suspect we probably shouldnt strongly type it, and allow the user to use it as needed, at least initially | 19:12 |
| devananda | node already supports this with the 'extra' field | 19:12 |
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| devananda | the patch I have up allows any JSON to be supplied for driver_info, properties, and extra -- it converts to dict for use in the code, and back to JSON for storage in the db | 19:12 |
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| devananda | how does that sound? suficient for our present needs? | 19:13 |
| romcheg | extras are stored in the same table, metadata can be stored separately | 19:13 |
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| devananda | ahhh | 19:13 |
| devananda | nova's separate key/value metadata tables are a performance nightmare :) | 19:14 |
| romcheg | Then we can get rid of them? | 19:14 |
| devananda | i think we can get the same functionality with a JSON field that nova gets with a k/v table. | 19:15 |
| devananda | (i'm not about to try removing it from Nova, though :) ) | 19:15 |
| romcheg | It might be quite hard to search through the extra infos like these | 19:16 |
| devananda | sure, but do we need to search through them? | 19:16 |
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| romcheg | If the information exists we might need to search through it :) | 19:17 |
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| devananda | hm, so i can see one possible need to search it today | 19:18 |
| romcheg | I think for now it's not so important | 19:18 |
| devananda | "find node with property X == value Y", eg "find node with 16 GB RAM" | 19:18 |
| devananda | however | 19:18 |
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| devananda | this is done at the scheduler in Nova, so it will not be implemented as a query in Ironic | 19:19 |
| devananda | ironic will export the whole 'properties' metadata field to nova scheduler | 19:19 |
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| devananda | i think for now this is simpler, and we can split it out later if necessary | 19:20 |
| romcheg | Agree | 19:21 |
| devananda | ok, going to move on so we dont run out of time :) | 19:21 |
| devananda | #topic API implementation | 19:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "API implementation (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 19:21 | |
| devananda | i think martyn hasn't done much on this as he was waiting on the objects | 19:21 |
| devananda | but i put up a review which shows how to use objects in the API | 19:21 |
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| devananda | i think we're ready to start splitting that up and implementing it in parallel, particularly once chassis object is also done :) | 19:22 |
| devananda | as neither martyn nor jayg are here, i'll wait a minute in case anyone else wants to comment, and then move on | 19:22 |
| romcheg | I'm going to put chassis to review tomorrow | 19:22 |
| NobodyCam | w00t | 19:23 |
| devananda | great! | 19:23 |
| devananda | #topic image utils and pxe driver | 19:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "image utils and pxe driver (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 19:23 | |
| devananda | GheRivero: hi! how's that going? | 19:23 |
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| NobodyCam | welcome cody | 19:24 |
| GheRivero | iamge tools alsmost done. only some tests and docstrings missing. | 19:24 |
| devananda | awesome! | 19:24 |
| GheRivero | i have to redo part of it to content glanceclient devs and use versioned clients | 19:24 |
| GheRivero | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/33327/ | 19:25 |
| GheRivero | but confident to be ready early this week | 19:25 |
| devananda | k | 19:25 |
| GheRivero | and about pxe, i will update it to this review meanwhile | 19:26 |
| devananda | let's try to split the pxe rewrite into some manageable parts | 19:26 |
| NobodyCam | I'll gladly pickup some pxe bits | 19:27 |
| GheRivero | yeah, sure | 19:27 |
| devananda | putting up a review with pxe.py based on the new image utils is probably first step | 19:27 |
| devananda | another with it using the new TaskManager/ResourceManager, and maybe the new object models | 19:27 |
| devananda | i'm not sure how well these three changes can be parallelized though ... :) | 19:28 |
| devananda | ideas welcome, too :) | 19:28 |
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| GheRivero | i will prepare a review with the image tooll tonight, and we can start working from there | 19:29 |
| devananda | k. i'll be only half around tomorrow, but will try to at least comment on reviews. should be able to do more the rest of the week | 19:29 |
| devananda | anything else on the pxe driver that folks want to talk about? | 19:30 |
| devananda | ok, moving on | 19:31 |
| devananda | #topic open discussion | 19:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 19:31 | |
| NobodyCam | great job so far everyone! | 19:31 |
| anteaya | our reviewers are reviewing more: http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/ironic-reviewers-30.txt | 19:31 |
| anteaya | thanks to everyone for reviewing | 19:31 |
| NobodyCam | happy to see anteaya's first review :) | 19:31 |
| devananda | \o/ go reviewers! | 19:31 |
| anteaya | you mean my patch you could review? | 19:32 |
| anteaya | you missed my first teeny bug fix patch | 19:32 |
| NobodyCam | hehehe oh ya that one .... | 19:32 |
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| devananda | ah, so that reminds me if folks want to contribute but aren't sure yet what code to write | 19:32 |
| devananda | we are lacking unit tests for lots of things :) | 19:32 |
| GheRivero | any news on the meeting? | 19:33 |
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| NobodyCam | that there are lots of todo's through the code | 19:33 |
| devananda | GheRivero: thanks for the reminder. I think we probably won't have the meeting at the end of this month, not enough people could commit to make the travel worthwhile | 19:33 |
| NobodyCam | oh just fyi ... I will not around friday | 19:34 |
| anteaya | devananda: would it make sense to discuss one with at least 2 months notice so romcheg can get a visa if need be? | 19:34 |
| anteaya | NobodyCam: okay, thanks | 19:34 |
| devananda | anteaya: that would make far more sense :) | 19:34 |
| anteaya | I would wonder | 19:34 |
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| anteaya | devananda: great, now or another time? | 19:34 |
| devananda | we could also plan for virtual meetings (hangout, skype, etc) | 19:35 |
| romcheg | I applied for a visa | 19:35 |
| romcheg | However, it doesn't look like my application will be approved :( | 19:35 |
| anteaya | romcheg: :( | 19:36 |
| NobodyCam | how long before you hear back romcheg | 19:36 |
| romcheg | NobodyCam: NobodyKnows | 19:36 |
| NobodyCam | lol | 19:36 |
| devananda | anteaya: i dont have any specific ideas around dates or location at this point... | 19:36 |
| anteaya | okay | 19:36 |
| NobodyCam | how about hongong | 19:36 |
| devananda | i'm pretty sure there will be some sessions at hong kong summit | 19:36 |
| NobodyCam | hongkong | 19:36 |
| devananda | AIUI, as a project, we'll have a separate track | 19:37 |
| NobodyCam | we could all have dinner and call it a meeting | 19:37 |
| devananda | probably half a day with a room to ourselves or so | 19:37 |
| * devananda waves hands nebulously | 19:37 | |
| anteaya | NobodyCam: you clever man | 19:37 |
| NobodyCam | lol | 19:38 |
| anteaya | I don't think romcheg will need a visa for Hong Kong, will you romcheg? | 19:38 |
| romcheg | When is the summit? | 19:39 |
| dkehn | November | 19:39 |
| romcheg | It's easier to get a visa to Hong Kong | 19:39 |
| romcheg | I will ask about funding | 19:39 |
| NobodyCam | nov 5 thru the 8th i think | 19:39 |
| devananda | #link http://www.openstack.org/summit/openstack-summit-hong-kong-2013/ | 19:39 |
| romcheg | devananda: thanks | 19:39 |
| anteaya | I just got my email for registration today | 19:40 |
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| romcheg | Ukraine is a post-soviet country. It's not hard to get to Hong Kong, but hard to get to the US | 19:40 |
| dkehn | anteaya, yeah 20 mins ago | 19:40 |
| anteaya | dkehn: cool | 19:41 |
| devananda | indeed, 20 min ago i got one as well | 19:41 |
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| anteaya | romcheg: good, so makes more sense to plan to see you in Hong Kong then | 19:41 |
| devananda | so the question is, is there budget for enough people to have a meeting between now and then to make it worthwhile? | 19:41 |
| anteaya | *shrug* from me, I don't know | 19:42 |
| devananda | so far, the responses i've gotten have been a lot of maybes, which suggests it's really a "no" | 19:42 |
| anteaya | considering the expense of Hong Kong for most | 19:42 |
| devananda | indeed | 19:43 |
| GheRivero | most people is thinking on HK | 19:43 |
| anteaya | might it be better to encourage them to lobby management now so they are in HK | 19:43 |
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| anteaya | since HK for the design summit is the priority, I feel | 19:43 |
| devananda | that seems reasonable to me | 19:43 |
| anteaya | okay so romcheg aim for HK | 19:44 |
| jbjohnso | I'm preparing to release a native python ipmi library, would folks prefer that to be standalone at PyPI with only glue in openstack | 19:44 |
| jbjohnso | or to have the whole thing in openstack | 19:44 |
| anteaya | your visa application should be in good shape for that event then | 19:44 |
| romcheg | anteaya: Yes, will try to get there | 19:45 |
| anteaya | romcheg: great | 19:45 |
| anteaya | :D | 19:45 |
| anteaya | jbjohnso: good question | 19:45 |
| anteaya | mordred: any opinions on the pypi option? | 19:45 |
| anteaya | or jeblair? | 19:45 |
| jbjohnso | the api as-is, has object constructed: ipmi_command(bmc=bmc,userid=userid,password=password) | 19:46 |
| jbjohnso | and then can call functions as such: | 19:46 |
| jbjohnso | ipmicmd.get_power() | 19:46 |
| jbjohnso | ipmicmd.set_bootdev('network') | 19:46 |
| jbjohnso | etc | 19:46 |
| jbjohnso | there's async api, but I'll just omit that for now | 19:47 |
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| devananda | jbjohnso: what's the cost of instantiating the ipmi_command class? | 19:47 |
| jbjohnso | devananda, how do you want me to account ;) | 19:48 |
| devananda | eg, should we plan to create them on-demand for just one action, or keep the instance in memory for a while? | 19:48 |
| devananda | jbjohnso: relative cost is fine :) | 19:48 |
| jbjohnso | devananda, reusing it saves about 8 packets on the wire | 19:49 |
| jbjohnso | so get_power takes one round trip with 2 packets instead of 10 packets in 5 round trips | 19:49 |
| devananda | gotcha. so reuse is good | 19:49 |
| jbjohnso | devananda, when I add SOL session support | 19:49 |
| jbjohnso | devananda, then a single session can multiplex SOL and non-SOL payload | 19:50 |
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| jbjohnso | devananda, it should be any more expensive to not reuse than ipmitool as-is | 19:50 |
| jbjohnso | devananda, ipmitool has to do the same negotiation after all | 19:50 |
| devananda | jbjohnso: right. good to know this can be more efficient :) | 19:51 |
| devananda | i'm sure we'll dig into that in more detail when we start writing the driver interface for it | 19:51 |
| jbjohnso | devananda, one thing though is session keepalive currently isn't handled, so it will crater if idle too long | 19:51 |
| devananda | since mordred doesn't seem to be arond, i'll take a few guesses at the in-or-out-of openstack question | 19:51 |
| devananda | but he's really the best one to answer | 19:52 |
| jbjohnso | the driver is probably going to cross the 1,000 lines of code threshold shortly (easily if I add SOL) | 19:52 |
| NobodyCam | jbjohnso: keep on rock'n | 19:53 |
| linggao | devananda: I have discussed with jbjohnso on his native ipmi implementation, I personally think that the his APIs should confirm with the ironic.drivers.PowerInterface. | 19:53 |
| devananda | it sounds like you've already implemented it as a library | 19:53 |
| linggao | and the ironic.conf file can decide to load in ipmi.py or native_ipmi.py | 19:53 |
| jbjohnso | devananda, yeah, my sync api example to make a python 'ipmitool' with subset of function is about 20 lines of code | 19:54 |
| devananda | so whether you put it "in" openstack (eg, on stackforge) or not is up to you -- whether you want openstack's tooling, testing, etc | 19:54 |
| devananda | jbjohnso: i'd encourage you to put the code on stackforge, even if it's a separate library | 19:55 |
| * NobodyCam notes that is the 5 (five) minute bell | 19:55 | |
| devananda | so that development still follows the openstack tolling | 19:55 |
| devananda | tooling | 19:55 |
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| devananda | but it's up to you. i dont see why ironic couldn't consume something from pypi | 19:55 |
| jbjohnso | 'tolling' eh, now the truth is revealed | 19:56 |
| devananda | :p | 19:56 |
| devananda | linggao: if it's implemented as a separate python library, i think we can easily have another PowerInterface for native_ipmi that wraps said library | 19:56 |
| devananda | linggao: so i dont think it needs to be implemented _as_ a PowerInterface | 19:56 |
| devananda | but we will need a separate PowerInterface for it | 19:57 |
| linggao | then how does the code decide which PowerInterface to call? | 19:57 |
| jbjohnso | basically, the library sucks up kg, userid, password, bmc address in generic fashion | 19:57 |
| devananda | linggao: config option just like you suggest | 19:57 |
| jbjohnso | and whatever is in the modules directory would be the bit that understands openstack configuration and such | 19:58 |
| linggao | if native ipmi and the ipmi.py have the same functions, why do we need antoher PowerInterface? | 19:58 |
| devananda | linggao: well, in the long term, we dont :) | 19:58 |
| linggao | I thought PowerInterface is an abstact layer for all the implementations to follow. | 19:59 |
| devananda | linggao: but at least for now, i dont want to remove a working PowerInterface until the new one is proven | 19:59 |
| devananda | ahh | 19:59 |
| devananda | yes | 19:59 |
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| devananda | by "another PowerInterface", I Meant another subclass | 19:59 |
| NobodyCam | one minute to go...tic toc...*theam from jepordy playing in background* | 19:59 |
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| NobodyCam | theme even | 19:59 |
| devananda | we're out of time, so let's move any remaining conversation back to -ironic channel | 19:59 |
| linggao | right. | 19:59 |
| devananda | thanks everyone! see you next week | 19:59 |
| devananda | #endmeeting | 20:00 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 20:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jun 17 20:00:03 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2013/ironic.2013-06-17-19.01.html | 20:00 |
| linggao | bye | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2013/ironic.2013-06-17-19.01.txt | 20:00 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2013/ironic.2013-06-17-19.01.log.html | 20:00 |
| romcheg | Thank you devananda | 20:00 |
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| lifeless | #startmeeting tripleo | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jun 17 20:00:47 2013 UTC. The chair is lifeless. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 20:00 | |
| lifeless | hi everyone | 20:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tripleo' | 20:00 |
| dprince | lifeless: hi | 20:00 |
| dkehn | hi | 20:01 |
| NobodyCam | morning lifeless | 20:01 |
| GheRivero | hi all | 20:01 |
| lifeless | #topic agenda | 20:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 20:01 | |
| lifeless | bugs | 20:01 |
| lifeless | Grizzly test rack status | 20:01 |
| lifeless | CI virtualized testing progress | 20:01 |
| lifeless | open discussion | 20:01 |
| lifeless | #topic bugs | 20:01 |
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| lifeless | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/ as usual | 20:02 |
| lifeless | we're down to 7 crits | 20:02 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: you have 3 of them | 20:02 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: care to give a brief status on tehm? | 20:02 |
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| dprince | lifeless: I think we might be seeing a lot of this w/ TOCI https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1166838 | 20:03 |
| SpamapS | sure let me catch up | 20:03 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1166838 in tripleo "rabbitmq does not start correctly on boot" [High,Triaged] | 20:03 |
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| lifeless | ok while SpamapS catches up | 20:04 |
| SpamapS | https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1191931 | 20:04 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1191931 in heat "AssertionError when creating a stack." [Critical,New] | 20:04 |
| lifeless | I should get https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1191714 done today | 20:04 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1191714 in tripleo "400.Bad.Request..X-Instance-ID.header.is.mising.from.reque " [Critical,Triaged] | 20:04 |
| SpamapS | btw, I believe this is breaking heat right now | 20:04 |
| lifeless | oh, he's up :) | 20:04 |
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| * lifeless hands the mike to SpamapS | 20:04 | |
| SpamapS | Hm, I haven't checked, all 3 of those might be already merged, just needing better docs. | 20:05 |
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| lifeless | SpamapS: ok, and thus tripleo ? | 20:05 |
| SpamapS | ok no https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1182249 is still ongoing | 20:05 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1182249 in tripleo "quantum configuration is overly hardcoded" [Critical,In progress] | 20:05 |
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| SpamapS | that one needs os-apply-config and/or os-refresh-config to have access to the ec2 metadata | 20:06 |
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| lifeless | dprince: so, several things we can do - we should move stuff out of first-boot and into orc calls | 20:06 |
| lifeless | dprince: which we should *anyway* as rabbit is a service we may reconfigure. | 20:06 |
| SpamapS | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1183223 is a bit vague and I may need to work on the wording/split it out | 20:06 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1183223 in tripleo "nova-compute.yaml missing parameters" [Critical,In progress] | 20:06 |
| SpamapS | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1183442 | 20:07 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1183442 in tripleo "Heat metadata updates do not work" [Critical,In progress] | 20:07 |
| lifeless | dprince: that would ameliorate the toci issue even if we don't diagnose the root issue in Ubunty. | 20:07 |
| dprince | lifeless: sure. Just wanted to get that marked as high priority (and potentially being worked on as Derek) | 20:07 |
| lifeless | Ubuntu. | 20:07 |
| lifeless | dprince: ack | 20:07 |
| SpamapS | I think that one is fixed actually | 20:07 |
| SpamapS | will need to test and verify, but all of the code is in place to fix it theoretically | 20:07 |
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| dprince | SpamapS: reference commit? | 20:08 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: if that heat bug is hurting us, care to add a tripleo task? | 20:08 |
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| SpamapS | dprince: there are several, it will take me a while to dig it out | 20:10 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: yes I'm doing so. Its basically stopping us dead in the water (might be stopping all users dead) | 20:10 |
| dprince | SpamapS: no worries. I can review history myself. Thanks for the update. | 20:10 |
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| SpamapS | dprince: it was worked around in t-i-e and recently fixed in keystoneclient for good | 20:11 |
| lifeless | dprince: a8c2ae7e1506defaa36f035377af2b7b04aaed87 | 20:12 |
| dprince | lifeless: thanks. | 20:12 |
| lifeless | we had tat listed as fixing 1183732 | 20:12 |
| lifeless | but | 20:12 |
| lifeless | I think its teh same | 20:12 |
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| lifeless | ok, onto the others | 20:13 |
| lifeless | bug 1184484 has provisional patches from quantum devs | 20:13 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1184484 in tripleo "Quantum default settings will cause deadlocks due to overflow of sqlalchemy_pool" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1184484 | 20:13 |
| lifeless | I tried to apply them to the HP POC environment | 20:14 |
| lifeless | but it made all quantum APIs return empty responses. | 20:14 |
| lifeless | Which was undesirable | 20:14 |
| lifeless | so I reverted it. My plan is to get the current arc of 'get it up and working without fiddling' going, and then find a couple of spare machines in that environment and do a fresh build. | 20:15 |
| mordred | o/ | 20:15 |
| lifeless | quantum folk have marked https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1189385 incomplete. | 20:15 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1189385 in tripleo "quantum-server hung up it's listening port" [Critical,Triaged] | 20:15 |
| lifeless | I'm going to ping them asking what they are missing | 20:15 |
| lifeless | #action lifeless to chase 1189385 diagnostics for quantum devs. | 20:15 |
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| lifeless | bug 1188301 - I think clint was tracking it? | 20:16 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1188301 in tripleo "keystone kvs driver causes process to grow indefinitely and spin on CPU with thousands of keys in a single python dict" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1188301 | 20:16 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: did you see the respond on bug 1184484 ? | 20:16 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1184484 in tripleo "Quantum default settings will cause deadlocks due to overflow of sqlalchemy_pool" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1184484 | 20:16 |
| SpamapS | response rather ? | 20:16 |
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| SpamapS | lifeless: its the same old upper/lower problem again | 20:16 |
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| SpamapS | lifeless: oh, bug 1188301 is fixed, keystone defaults to sql now! \o/ | 20:17 |
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| SpamapS | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/32970/ | 20:17 |
| SpamapS | I linked that to bug 1188378 though | 20:18 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1188378 in keystone "keystone.token.backends.sql uses a single delete command to flush expired tokens causing replication lag and potential deadlocks" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1188378 | 20:18 |
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| SpamapS | oh actually no I linked both | 20:18 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: I'm confused. | 20:18 |
| SpamapS | but the bot picked the other bug which I mentioned first | 20:18 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: is it fixed, or is it pending review to be fixed? | 20:18 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: keystone upstream defaults to sql | 20:18 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: we have a config file that still says kvs though | 20:19 |
| lifeless | ok, so not fixed for us, because we copied the files. | 20:19 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/32970/ fixes that | 20:19 |
| lifeless | yup | 20:19 |
| lifeless | dprince: re percona toolkit | 20:19 |
| SpamapS | Just need to work on that | 20:19 |
| lifeless | dprince: what other options are there? | 20:19 |
| jog0 | lifeless: this is why I wanted to shrink the size of the config file | 20:19 |
| dprince | lifeless: well... could we fix this in keystone? | 20:20 |
| lifeless | jog0: yes, and as I said I'm with you in principle, we just need some care. | 20:20 |
| jog0 | lifeless: ++ | 20:20 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: I have a WIP fix in keystone but MySQL doesn't support LIMIT in the IN() sub-query clauses .. so I have to do something mysql specific. | 20:20 |
| lifeless | dprince: right now we're broken by default. I'd like to unbreak us first, and get more portable, long term fixes second. | 20:20 |
| SpamapS | pt-archiver has been cleaning out our PoC table for a week now | 20:20 |
| lifeless | dprince: what do you think of that ? | 20:20 |
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| dprince | lifeless: this will certainly break our Fedora efforts. That is my main objection. | 20:21 |
| lifeless | dprince: what if SpamapS puts a 'if ubuntu' thing around the pt cleaner. | 20:21 |
| SpamapS | Frankly I think we should mov to memcached eventually, but that is yet another 3rd party service to scale :p | 20:21 |
| lifeless | dprince: fedora will be no worse off - broken is broken. | 20:21 |
| lifeless | dprince: but it will build and install and run until you get too much contention with the upstream gc code. | 20:22 |
| dprince | lifeless: go for it. I suppose I'd just like to see keystone support this with its database design. | 20:22 |
| lifeless | dprince: Me too! | 20:22 |
| lifeless | dprince: I just don't want to be hostage to educating them | 20:22 |
| SpamapS | dprince: If you have some guidance on how to ask sqlalchemy if I'm using mysql, and then do a specially crafted query in sqlalchemy.. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/32044/ needs your comments :) | 20:22 |
| dprince | lifeless: we should probably put a comment in to make note of this as well so that it doesn't confuse people, etc. | 20:23 |
| lifeless | dprince: I'm not suggesting we stop caring about it, just that we get the move away from kvs in place | 20:23 |
| lifeless | ok, so | 20:23 |
| lifeless | #action spamaps to: - make the kvs->sql change still build and run on fedora; ensure there is a bug upstream in keystone about the bad sql behaviour, with medium priority task on tripleo. | 20:24 |
| lifeless | dprince: ^ I think that meets all your concerns; if not please feel free to tweak it so that it does. | 20:24 |
| lifeless | ok and bug 1191714 I am working on | 20:25 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1191714 in tripleo "400.Bad.Request..X-Instance-ID.header.is.mising.from.reque " [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1191714 | 20:25 |
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| lifeless | this is fallout from the overcloud changes : it's a setting that has to be different in undercloud and overcloud. | 20:25 |
| lifeless | right now any seed cloud/bootstrap cloud built with tripleo will fail metadata access from instances/. | 20:25 |
| lifeless | Any other bug stuff to discuss? | 20:26 |
| lifeless | #topic grizzly rack status | 20:26 |
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| lifeless | so our POC has been getting hammered by some test users | 20:26 |
| lifeless | which is great. | 20:26 |
| lifeless | the only issue they have had so far is the quantum poolsize one. | 20:26 |
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| lifeless | With the comment spamaps pointed out, we can try switching to that quantum version again | 20:27 |
| lifeless | #action lifeless to test the quantum deadlock fix on the POC again. | 20:27 |
| lifeless | So, this is pretty good news, the path to near-production was a lot smoother than it might have been :) | 20:28 |
| lifeless | anything else on the POC environment ? | 20:28 |
| SpamapS | moar PoC racks plz | 20:28 |
| lifeless | I have 2 requests to bring the tripleo love to prod racks | 20:30 |
| lifeless | they know we're not finished, and caveats etc. | 20:30 |
| lifeless | but they want to see how it flies. | 20:30 |
| lifeless | so - thats pending other folks bandwidth. Will keep everyone apprised as things eventuate. | 20:31 |
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| lifeless | #topic CI virtual testing progress | 20:31 |
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| lifeless | pleia2: tag | 20:31 |
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| pleia2 | hello! | 20:31 |
| pleia2 | so testing on lxc is moving along | 20:31 |
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| pleia2 | got most networking stuff sorted last week and openstack using boot-stack is mostly running within lxc, just working out some launching issues with some of the services | 20:32 |
| lifeless | sweet | 20:32 |
| pleia2 | at this point I don't foresee us hitting any major blockers | 20:32 |
| lifeless | do you need more eyeballs ? | 20:32 |
| pleia2 | not right at this moment | 20:33 |
| pleia2 | but soon | 20:33 |
| jog0 | will the CI virt testing just put test the undercloud/boot-stack in LXC | 20:33 |
| pleia2 | jog0: that's the plan | 20:33 |
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| jog0 | so no overcloud testing in first pass | 20:34 |
| lifeless | jog0: the primary goal is to get baremetal code path test coverage. | 20:34 |
| lifeless | jog0: with a little bit of 'image builds properly' and 'tripleo config seems legit' built in. | 20:34 |
| lifeless | jog0: -> baby steps. | 20:35 |
| * jog0 *nod* | 20:35 | |
| pleia2 | yeah, and we're starting off simple just so we have a basic setup (this whole thing has somewhat stalled partially because I've been trying to do all-the-things) | 20:35 |
| lifeless | pleia2: ok, please shout in #tripleo when you need someone to eyeballs logs or whatever to help diagnose failure-to-startup. | 20:35 |
| pleia2 | lifeless: great, thanks :) | 20:35 |
| lifeless | #topic open discussion | 20:35 |
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| dprince | pleia2: is this still using TOCI? | 20:35 |
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| pleia2 | dprince: it's diverged quite a bit, but I hope to pull it back and submit some patches to TOCI | 20:36 |
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| dprince | pleia2: cool. I sort of went the other way... and we are close to having TOCI driving real bare metal. | 20:36 |
| pleia2 | dprince: it's doing a lot of the same things, so if we could have some switches built in to handle virtual+lxc it would be great | 20:37 |
| pleia2 | right now I'm running everything by hand though | 20:37 |
| dprince | pleia2: we'll be more resource strapped there... but we are finding good things. | 20:37 |
| * pleia2 nods | 20:37 | |
| dprince | lifeless: I've got a couple things I'd like to run past you all | 20:37 |
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| lifeless | dprince: shoot! | 20:38 |
| dprince | lifeless: Okay. First thing this troubleshooting thing. | 20:39 |
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| dprince | lifeless: I have a review up to make it so that we don't always have to hang the deployment process if something bad happens in the deploy ramdisk. | 20:40 |
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| dprince | lifeless: we *can't* hang the deploy process for CI. it will kill my resource pools and the failure rate is still way to high. | 20:40 |
| dprince | So that is step one. (don't hang it) | 20:40 |
| dprince | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/33076/ | 20:41 |
| lifeless | hanging bad | 20:41 |
| lifeless | there is a timeout mechanism for nova-bm | 20:41 |
| lifeless | it's off by default... | 20:42 |
| dprince | Step two would be to have a simple err message tracking capability. I understand we are working on a proper agent... but in the meantime for the "H" release we need something. So maybe something like this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/33341/ | 20:42 |
| dprince | lifeless: A timeout would be good as well. But it is hanging because we call a 'bash' shell inline. That is just plain bad IMO. | 20:42 |
| dprince | lifeless: So with the second branch above ^^ we'd essentiall just add a small blip to the nova-bare-metal-deploy helper so we can get and log the message. | 20:43 |
| lifeless | +500 | 20:43 |
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| dprince | lifeless: I feel like this is a bit home brew... but I gotta say I can't do much about automating this without these things. | 20:43 |
| lifeless | I am totally in favour of this sort of thing; devananda has some reasonable concerns about not changing nova baremetal, but IMO leaving it totally broken is not feasible. | 20:44 |
| dprince | lifeless: lastly, we need to get devananda's Nova branch to improve the IMPI power commands in. | 20:44 |
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| dprince | lifeless: the Nova change is really small. and totally backwards compatible. I'll push it by the end of the day too. | 20:44 |
| lifeless | I don't think a super duper agent is needed in the short term : its a nice thing to have, but not a necessary condition for any of this. | 20:44 |
| dprince | lifeless: okay. I think we are on the same page. | 20:45 |
| dprince | lifeless: Okay. Slightly different topic. | 20:45 |
| lifeless | yes, ack on that - I'll dig up that review and see where we are at. | 20:45 |
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| sdake | lifeless does dib now default to using tmpfs for its building magic? | 20:45 |
| dprince | backticks. Can they go away. | 20:45 |
| lifeless | dprince: `` -> $() ? | 20:45 |
| dprince | I'm much prefer we use the more formal $() | 20:45 |
| dprince | lifeless: its a style thing... but yes. | 20:45 |
| lifeless | fine by me; add it to HACKING or README or something so it's discoverable. | 20:46 |
| lifeless | sdake: yes | 20:46 |
| dprince | lifeless: Cool. We don't have a bash HACKING that I know of but I'll take a shot at that. | 20:46 |
| sdake | lifeless I guess I'm a dummy but the command line option to run a fedora dib doesn't immediately stick out at me from the -h or readme.md | 20:46 |
| lifeless | sdake: see README.md - Requirements. | 20:46 |
| lifeless | sdake: disk-image-create fedora | 20:46 |
| sdake | thanks I'll try that lifeless ;) | 20:47 |
| sdake | sure is fast | 20:47 |
| lifeless | sdake: :> | 20:47 |
| SpamapS | will be nice with the official F19 and later imges too | 20:47 |
| sdake | be sweet if it had an api to go with it :) | 20:48 |
| sdake | ya f17 lost cause at this point ;) | 20:48 |
| lifeless | sdake: actually I think its still too slow, need to add some parallel in there, as well as make it trivial to setup local pypi and openstack git mirrors; but folk like derekh (not in this channel atm) have that in-progress | 20:48 |
| sdake | I plan to change all the heat instances to default to f19 when it comes out | 20:48 |
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| lifeless | sdake: an API would be nice; I think structurally we should layer that on top - separate concern. | 20:49 |
| sdake | lifeless agree | 20:49 |
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| SpamapS | sounds like we're done :) | 20:51 |
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| lifeless | agreed | 20:52 |
| lifeless | #endmeeting | 20:52 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jun 17 20:52:34 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:52 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2013/tripleo.2013-06-17-20.00.html | 20:52 |
| lifeless | thanks everyone | 20:52 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2013/tripleo.2013-06-17-20.00.txt | 20:52 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2013/tripleo.2013-06-17-20.00.log.html | 20:52 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: no, thank you :) | 20:53 |
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| markmcclain | hi | 20:59 |
| mestery | Yo! | 20:59 |
| arosen | Hiya | 20:59 |
| nati_ueno | hi! | 20:59 |
| asadoughi | hi | 20:59 |
| marun | hi | 20:59 |
| rkukura | hi everyone! | 20:59 |
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| yamahata_ | hi | 21:00 |
| markvoelker | o/ | 21:00 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | Hi! | 21:00 |
| garyk | hi | 21:01 |
| emagana | hello everybody! | 21:01 |
| RajeshMohan | Hi | 21:01 |
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| Swami | Hi all | 21:01 |
| markmcclain | ok let's get started | 21:01 |
| markmcclain | #startmeeting Networking | 21:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jun 17 21:01:37 2013 UTC. The chair is markmcclain. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking' | 21:01 |
| enikanorov | hi | 21:01 |
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| armax | hello | 21:02 |
| danwent | hi | 21:02 |
| markmcclain | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings | 21:02 |
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| markmcclain | #topic Announcements | 21:02 |
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| danwent | hi folks, i sent a note to the core email alias already, but i'm stepping down as a member of quantum core | 21:03 |
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| mestery | danwent: Thanks for all your hard work over the years! | 21:03 |
| danwent | don't have sufficient quantum review cycles with my new role | 21:03 |
| danwent | but its been a fun time, and i really enjoyed working with you all :) | 21:03 |
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| marun | danwent: Thank you! | 21:04 |
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| danwent | mestery, marun: thanks | 21:05 |
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| armax | danwent: we sure will miss you! | 21:05 |
| mlavalle | danwent: good luck! I hope your new role includes interacting with Rackspace | 21:05 |
| marun | danwent: We all know how much blood, sweat and tears you put into this project over the years, and wouldn't have gotten here without you leading the charge. | 21:06 |
| danwent | thanks. sorry, don't mean to delay the meeting. please proceed markmcclain :) | 21:06 |
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| markmcclain | danwent: No delay. Your hard work spent leading this project is the reason the project is where it is today. | 21:07 |
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| danwent | ok, now this is just embarassing… let's move on :P | 21:07 |
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| markmcclain | Moving on to less sappy items… we have lots of inflight blueprints for H2 | 21:08 |
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| markmcclain | July is rapidly approaching.. next week we'll spend some time talking about the critical and high priority blueprints for H2 | 21:08 |
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| markmcclain | several of the blueprints are dependencies for later work | 21:09 |
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| markmcclain | with that lets run through the sub-teams | 21:09 |
| markmcclain | #topic API | 21:09 |
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| markmcclain | salv-orlando: hi | 21:10 |
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| salv-orlando | aloha people | 21:10 |
| salv-orlando | nothing major to repor | 21:10 |
| salv-orlando | t | 21:10 |
| salv-orlando | I think we are on track with the API related blueprints I am actively following. | 21:10 |
| salv-orlando | We also have a 'provider-router' blueprint | 21:10 |
| salv-orlando | that touches API and L3 | 21:10 |
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| salv-orlando | whose spec is under review. | 21:11 |
| salv-orlando | You're welcome to chime in. | 21:11 |
| salv-orlando | Our priorities for H2 should be: | 21:11 |
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| salv-orlando | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/+spec/api-core-for-services | 21:11 |
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| salv-orlando | and quantum-l3-routing-plugin | 21:12 |
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| salv-orlando | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/+spec/quantum-l3-routing-plugin | 21:12 |
| markmcclain | agreed | 21:12 |
| salv-orlando | It would be nice also getting in that blueprint about router ports… can't find the link now | 21:12 |
| salv-orlando | markmcclain: I mean your blueprint | 21:12 |
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| markmcclain | yeah.. needs another round of rebase to post | 21:13 |
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| salv-orlando | enikanorov is doing most of the practical work api-core-for-services - I am providing 'advice' (which you can translate as occasionally answering to queries on IRC) | 21:13 |
| salv-orlando | that's all | 21:13 |
| markmcclain | ok.. cool | 21:13 |
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| markmcclain | any API questions? | 21:14 |
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| markmcclain | #topic VPNaaS | 21:14 |
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| markmcclain | nati_ueno: hi | 21:14 |
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| nati_ueno | we can start playing with VPNaaS https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Quantum/VPNaaS/HowToInstall | 21:14 |
| nati_ueno | however code is still early stage | 21:15 |
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| nati_ueno | There is three patch 1) Quantum Advanced Service Plugin for VPNaas (Patchset 9) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/29812/ | 21:15 |
| nati_ueno | 2) Quantum Client for VPNaaS (Patchset 6) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/29811/ | 21:15 |
| nati_ueno | 3) Agent Impl https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/+spec/ipsec-vpn-reference (WIP: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/33148/1 | 21:15 |
| markmcclain | Thanks for the HowTo wiki | 21:16 |
| nati_ueno | Main TODO is unit test and integration test. We need to be rebase to newer service directory structures also | 21:16 |
| nati_ueno | that's all from me | 21:16 |
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| markmcclain | cool.. thanks for the update | 21:16 |
| markmcclain | #topic Nova Integration | 21:17 |
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| markmcclain | garyk: awake :p | 21:17 |
| garyk | markmcclain: yeah. | 21:17 |
| garyk | markmcclain: there are actually a few issues. give me a sec to paste them | 21:18 |
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| garyk | markmcclain: some are related to reviews in nova:- security groups, refreshing of floaing iip's and passing host parameters | 21:18 |
| garyk | 1. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/27709/ - do we support this with our security groups? | 21:19 |
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| markmcclain | we don't have anything comparable currently | 21:20 |
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| garyk | 2. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/33054/ - this was on the mail list too. updating a floating ip did not refresh nova's db | 21:20 |
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| garyk | 3. we need this for the multihost - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/29767/ | 21:21 |
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| markmcclain | 2. solves part of the issue, but not the full problem | 21:21 |
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| markmcclain | if the IP is disassociated via the Quantum API then Nova's cache will be wrong | 21:22 |
| danwent | garyk: on #1, it seems like at some point, nova needs to stop taking network changes. | 21:22 |
| markmcclain | danwent: I agree with you on #1 | 21:22 |
| garyk | danwent markmcclain : agreed. | 21:23 |
| danwent | we should loop nova leadership in on that, and try to get their core devs aware of this as well. | 21:23 |
| danwent | (or, at least that is what I would suggest :P) | 21:23 |
| markmcclain | I'll follow up with Russell | 21:23 |
| garyk | markmcclain: yes,s that is correct the device_id for the floating ip port is not the instance id | 21:23 |
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| garyk | markmcclain: i guess that is all at the moment. | 21:24 |
| mestery | Looks like sdague agrees with everyone on that, he gave a -1 to that review with the same comments. | 21:24 |
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| markmcclain | mestery: good point..I'll still follow up to make everyone is on the same page | 21:25 |
| markmcclain | Any questions on Nova Integration? | 21:25 |
| garyk | markmcclain: mestery: i think that is is importnat for us to try and show that we have the support in quantum then it can help move things forwards | 21:25 |
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| garyk | markmcclain: btw are we going to try and move quantum to the default with devstack? | 21:25 |
| mestery | garyk: Agree, though Sean's point about ensuring no new features in nova-networking seems like a good idea to me. | 21:25 |
| markmcclain | garyk: yes | 21:25 |
| mlavalle | markmcclain: there is a whole list of nova / quantum incompatibilities I have discovered fixing tempest tests | 21:26 |
| mlavalle | I will send a list to the ml | 21:26 |
| markmcclain | mlavalle: sounds good | 21:27 |
| markmcclain | #topic FWaaS | 21:27 |
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| markmcclain | SumitNaiksatam: hi | 21:27 |
| SumitNaiksatam | Hi! | 21:27 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | We made progress on all the blueprints in the past week. | 21:27 |
| SumitNaiksatam | CLI patch has been posted by KC: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/33187/ | 21:27 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | this is WIP, but has been written to the current state of the API patch | 21:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | Sridar/Dan are also getting close to posting a WIP patch for the agent (our target was today initially) | 21:28 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | Rajesh has is working on the unit tests for the driver, he has some dependency on the agent code to develop the tests | 21:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so he is a little blocked | 21:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we are meeting tomorrow to get past this | 21:29 |
| markmcclain | meeting in person or virtually? | 21:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | person | 21:29 |
| markmcclain | ah ok | 21:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we have been meeting regularly | 21:29 |
| markmcclain | cool | 21:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | I am working on addressing the review comments on the API patch, and also finishing the unit tests | 21:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | but not done | 21:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | devstack patch should be in soon after the agent patch is posted (of course will be WIP) | 21:30 |
| markmcclain | ok | 21:30 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK, dan_florea RajeshMohan anything more to add? | 21:31 |
| RajeshMohan | Testing with quantum-router (namespace + iptables) is pending. Other than that, most of the manual testing is complete. I simulate Agent but everything else is real. Good for manual testing but not good for automation. | 21:31 |
| dan_florea | Nothing beyond what you already said. We should have a WIP patch for agent this week. | 21:31 |
| RajeshMohan | For automation, I have to mock iptables-manager. It will be easy to automate verification with Mock. Once that is done, I will publish unit-testcase related files for review. | 21:31 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | thanks RajeshMohan dan_florea | 21:31 |
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| markmcclain | Thanks all for the update | 21:32 |
| markmcclain | #topic LBaaS | 21:32 |
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| markmcclain | enikanorov: around? | 21:32 |
| enikanorov | hi | 21:32 |
| enikanorov | lbaas got much attantion from cores recently. Thanks for that | 21:32 |
| enikanorov | multivendor support step1 got in | 21:33 |
| enikanorov | also some major renaming happened | 21:33 |
| markmcclain | file renaming? | 21:33 |
| enikanorov | directory renaming and moving services one level up | 21:33 |
| markmcclain | ok | 21:33 |
| enikanorov | this patch fixes devstack: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/32964/ | 21:34 |
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| enikanorov | also there is a patch that adds agent-scheduling to the reference implementation: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/32137/4 | 21:34 |
| enikanorov | another feature frequently requested is to add multiple vips per pool | 21:35 |
| enikanorov | I've started working on this. | 21:35 |
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| markmcclain | yeah.. I've seen a few threads | 21:35 |
| markmcclain | about that it | 21:35 |
| markmcclain | before committing to code… are you going to create a blueprint for how this will work? | 21:36 |
| enikanorov | sure. BP is created and currently I'm experimenting with reference impl to make it work | 21:36 |
| enikanorov | there VIPs are sharing single quantum port | 21:36 |
| enikanorov | (and pool, of course) | 21:36 |
| markmcclain | ok.. I missed that blueprint.. I'll find it after the meeting | 21:37 |
| enikanorov | I'll post spec once I clear the details | 21:37 |
| markmcclain | Anything else for LBaas? | 21:37 |
| enikanorov | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/+spec/lbaas-multiple-vips-per-pool | 21:37 |
| lifeless | enikanorov: why does devstack need fixing? | 21:37 |
| enikanorov | nope, thanks. | 21:37 |
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| markmcclain | enikanorov: thanks! | 21:37 |
| lifeless | enikanorov: looks like a backwards incompatible change to me? | 21:37 |
| enikanorov | lifeless: directory renaming. need to fix plugin path | 21:37 |
| lifeless | enikanorov: we -really- need to stop gratuitous backwards incompatible changes; everytime devstack needs fixing, we've just broken all trunk deployers, all CI systems running tests etc. | 21:38 |
| markmcclain | lifeless: LBaaS in Grizzly was experimental | 21:38 |
| lifeless | enikanorov: surely there is a backwards compatible way of doing the change ? | 21:38 |
| lifeless | markmcclain: is it still experimental? If so, sure, take my comments as wishful thinking - its my head right now because of https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1184484/comments/12 | 21:39 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1184484 in tripleo "Quantum default settings will cause deadlocks due to overflow of sqlalchemy_pool" [Critical,Triaged] | 21:39 |
| enikanorov | lifeless: I don't think so. That was a major change that I believe should have been done. | 21:39 |
| enikanorov | by the way | 21:39 |
| enikanorov | As I've posted on VPN and FW reviews, I'd suggest not name the directories as 'agent_vpn' or similar | 21:40 |
| markmcclain | ok | 21:40 |
| enikanorov | as this points to particular plugin-agent architecture | 21:40 |
| nati_ueno | enikanorov: We will change the namings | 21:41 |
| markmcclain | lifeless: I understand your concern about backwards compatible changes | 21:41 |
| enikanorov | and not a generic one. This would help to avoid bw incompatible renaming | 21:41 |
| SumitNaiksatam | enikanorov: point well taken, we were not doing that in FW | 21:41 |
| markmcclain | ok.. need to move onto ML2 | 21:42 |
| markmcclain | #topic ML@ | 21:42 |
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| markmcclain | #topic ML2 | 21:42 |
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| rkukura | good progress by the Modular L2 sub-team this past week! | 21:42 |
| rkukura | mestery organized the 1st weekly IRC meeting | 21:42 |
| rkukura | these will be Wednesday at 1400 UTC in #openstack-meeting going forward | 21:42 |
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| rkukura | initial code in review on two H-2 BPs: | 21:43 |
| rkukura | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/+spec/ml2-mechanism-drivers code under review at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/33201/ | 21:43 |
| rkukura | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/+spec/ml2-gre code under review at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/33297/ | 21:43 |
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| gongysh | hi, I am here at last. | 21:43 |
| mestery | I should note the ml2-vxlan blueprint is somewhat dependent on the ml2-gre blueprint since the tunnel RPC calls are implemented in the former. | 21:43 |
| markmcclain | mestery: I'll make sure they're marked as dependent | 21:44 |
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| markmcclain | gongysh: hi | 21:44 |
| mestery | markmcclain: Thanks! | 21:45 |
| gongysh | markmcclain: hi | 21:45 |
| mestery | There is also this change which allows multiple tunnel_types in the OVS agent: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/33107/ | 21:45 |
| mestery | I'm reworking it a bit, hope to post a new version tomorrow. | 21:45 |
| rkukura | mestery: cool - forgot to mention that one | 21:45 |
| markmcclain | ok.. any other updates for ML2? | 21:46 |
| rkukura | others are welcome to contribute, participate in the meetings, etc. | 21:46 |
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| markmcclain | Wednesdays at 1400UTC in #openstack-meeting | 21:47 |
| rkukura | at some point we should require new functionality in ml2 at the same time (or instead of) the legacy plugins | 21:47 |
| markmcclain | #topic clientlib | 21:47 |
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| mestery | rkukura: I think once the ml2-gre goes in it may make sense. | 21:47 |
| mestery | Isn't that the last major gap (GRE tunneling support)? | 21:47 |
| rkukura | yes, but we'll continue playing catch up | 21:48 |
| markmcclain | rkukura: agreed… once we have parity we'll discuss deprecating the OVS and lb plugins | 21:48 |
| markmcclain | and how the process will work so that we can communicate to everyone | 21:48 |
| rkukura | agreed | 21:48 |
| markmcclain | Moving onto the client library | 21:49 |
| mestery | Have to take off now folks, later! | 21:49 |
| markmcclain | mestery: later | 21:49 |
| markmcclain | we've got a new alpha tarball that fixes the issues caused by pbr | 21:49 |
| markmcclain | Please test this one: http://tarballs.openstack.org/python-quantumclient/python-quantumclient-2.2.2a1.tar.gz | 21:50 |
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| markmcclain | Took a little longer to tag a new version, but we had to wait until the upsteam dependencies were addressed first | 21:50 |
| markmcclain | If you have some spare cycles to test, please do so and report back to the list. | 21:51 |
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| markmcclain | #topic Stable | 21:52 |
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| markmcclain | garyk: looks like we're all caught up on Stable reviews | 21:52 |
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| garyk | markmcclain: reviews are ok at the moment. i need to backport one cisco fix that i am battling with. i'll try and get mestery to help with this tomorrow :) | 21:53 |
| markmcclain | ok | 21:53 |
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| markmcclain | #topic testing | 21:53 |
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| markmcclain | mlavalle: you've got some consistency bugs you're going to send out? | 21:54 |
| mlavalle | yes I will | 21:54 |
| markmcclain | ok | 21:54 |
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| markmcclain | thanks for keeping us in the loop | 21:55 |
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| markmcclain | #topic Other team reports | 21:55 |
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| markmcclain | I know the PXE review has stalled out a bit | 21:56 |
| dkehn | yes, did get items on the client side | 21:56 |
| dkehn | and working on testing end-to-end | 21:56 |
| markmcclain | cool | 21:56 |
| dkehn | and that about it | 21:56 |
| dkehn | would like to push this through | 21:56 |
| markmcclain | amotoki and I are reviewing the server side patch.. hopefully can get it through soon | 21:57 |
| dkehn | sweet | 21:57 |
| markmcclain | Any other team reports? | 21:57 |
| markmcclain | #topic Open Discussion | 21:57 |
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| markmcclain | For those that missed it: http://www.openstack.org/summit/openstack-summit-hong-kong-2013/ | 21:58 |
| markmcclain | The links to the Hong Kong summit hotels have been posted | 21:58 |
| markmcclain | additionally ATC codes for summit registration have started to be sent out | 21:59 |
| markmcclain | so if you plan on going watch your email | 21:59 |
| lifeless | hi | 21:59 |
| lifeless | question about backwards compat | 21:59 |
| lifeless | in this comment https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1184484/comments/12 | 21:59 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1184484 in tripleo "Quantum default settings will cause deadlocks due to overflow of sqlalchemy_pool" [Critical,Triaged] | 21:59 |
| markmcclain | lifeless: sure | 21:59 |
| lifeless | salv-orlando says that [DATABASE] isn't valid anymore, I'm curious whether this is something in trunk, or in the two patches suggested to fix the bug. | 21:59 |
| salv-orlando | in one of the two patches | 22:00 |
| salv-orlando | which is still under review | 22:00 |
| salv-orlando | most likely something needs to be fixed there before merging. | 22:00 |
| lifeless | ah, ok, cool. | 22:00 |
| salv-orlando | we haven't (yet) broken compatibility in trunk | 22:00 |
| lifeless | I was going to be grumpy if you had :> | 22:00 |
| lifeless | thanks! | 22:01 |
| garyk | salv-orlando: lifeless: we are moving to oslo support - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/27265/ | 22:01 |
| gongysh | garyk: a bit patch. | 22:02 |
| gongysh | a big patch | 22:02 |
| markmcclain | gongysh: most of it is code from Oslo | 22:03 |
| garyk | gongysh: yup, hopefully we can get it in sooner than later | 22:03 |
| markmcclain | garyk: the olso config needs to land first correct? | 22:03 |
| lifeless | garyk: so - right now that isn't backwards compat? | 22:03 |
| salv-orlando | garyk: basically the issue we're talking about and is that the patch you linked ignores sql_connection | 22:03 |
| garyk | markmcclain: correct | 22:03 |
| salv-orlando | which should instead be used, as it should be the deprecated version of connection | 22:03 |
| garyk | salv-orlando: lifeless: yes. we will need to make a minor change to ensure thatit is backward compatible | 22:04 |
| lifeless | garyk: salv-orlando: does it still honour [DATABASE] at the moment? e.g. for testing if I just add a connection= line, it will be enough ? | 22:05 |
| garyk | lifeless: yes, i think so | 22:05 |
| lifeless | cool | 22:05 |
| lifeless | salv-orlando: I will try the deadlock fix again today | 22:06 |
| salv-orlando | k | 22:06 |
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| garyk | i am sorry i am going to call it a night - it is a few hours after bed time. good night | 22:06 |
| markmcclain | Anything else? | 22:06 |
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| markmcclain | garyk: night | 22:06 |
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| markmcclain | Everyone have good week. | 22:07 |
| markmcclain | #endmeeting | 22:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 22:07 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jun 17 22:07:15 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:07 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2013/networking.2013-06-17-21.01.html | 22:07 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2013/networking.2013-06-17-21.01.txt | 22:07 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2013/networking.2013-06-17-21.01.log.html | 22:07 |
| markmcclain | bye | 22:07 |
| dkehn | good night all | 22:07 |
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