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| primeministerp | #startmeeting hyper-v | 15:57 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 5 15:57:07 2013 UTC. The chair is primeministerp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:57 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:57 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 15:57 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'hyper_v' | 15:57 |
| primeministerp | Hi everyone | 15:57 |
| primeministerp | we'll give a couple minutes for the others to join | 15:57 |
| primeministerp | ociuhandu: morning | 15:57 |
| ociuhandu | morning all | 15:57 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: ping | 15:57 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: hi pedro | 15:58 |
| alexpilotti | morning | 15:58 |
| primeministerp | making sure everyone's awake | 15:58 |
| primeministerp | ;) | 15:58 |
| primeministerp | so | 15:58 |
| primeministerp | let's get started | 15:58 |
| primeministerp | #topic Resize on Boot patch | 15:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Resize on Boot patch (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 15:59 | |
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| primeministerp | alexpilotti: would you care discuss | 15:59 |
| alexpilotti | sure | 15:59 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: the patch has been submitting? | 15:59 |
| alexpilotti | let me fetch it... | 16:00 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: perfect | 16:00 |
| alexpilotti | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/23405/2 | 16:00 |
| pnavarro | hi people ! | 16:00 |
| alexpilotti | just got a +2, I'm gonna hunt for another review soon :-) | 16:00 |
| alexpilotti | hi pnavarro ! | 16:00 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: execellent | 16:00 |
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| primeministerp | pnavarro: hi pedro | 16:00 |
| alexpilotti | so here's the idea: | 16:01 |
| alexpilotti | the vm is getting resized on boot based on the flavor's requirements | 16:01 |
| alexpilotti | the root disk I mean | 16:01 |
| alexpilotti | since it's not possible to resize a differencing disk, the only way to keep CoW images was to do a copy of the image and resize that one | 16:02 |
| alexpilotti | and use the latter as a differencing disk | 16:02 |
| alexpilotti | this is all embedded in the imagecache.py part | 16:02 |
| primeministerp | *nod* | 16:03 |
| alexpilotti | the tricky part was to make sure it works on resizes and live migrations | 16:03 |
| alexpilotti | so what happens is that during those operations the target looks if the resize image is there and generates one as needed | 16:03 |
| alexpilotti | the format of the cached image is: | 16:03 |
| primeministerp | well hopefully we'll get the additional +2 shortly and move on to the other bugs | 16:03 |
| alexpilotti | <image_id>_<size_gb>.vhd | 16:04 |
| alexpilotti | yep. My todo list for Nova is basically empty | 16:04 |
| primeministerp | #topic cinder live migration bug | 16:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "cinder live migration bug (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 16:04 | |
| alexpilotti | it's nova live migration bug actually :-) | 16:04 |
| pnavarro | yeah | 16:04 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: hehe | 16:04 |
| primeministerp | ok | 16:04 |
| primeministerp | do we have a fix yet? | 16:05 |
| primeministerp | that will work | 16:05 |
| alexpilotti | pnavarro: do you have time to work on this? | 16:05 |
| alexpilotti | I found a bug that I fixed in manager.py | 16:05 |
| pnavarro | no, sorry | 16:05 |
| alexpilotti | let me check the review | 16:05 |
| alexpilotti | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/23354/ | 16:06 |
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| alexpilotti | that was a one line fix | 16:06 |
| alexpilotti | and now we still have an issue in the volumeops.py code | 16:06 |
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| alexpilotti | #link http://paste.openstack.org/show/32723/ | 16:07 |
| alexpilotti | pnavarro: so you don't have time this week? :-( | 16:08 |
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| pnavarro | this week I'll have more time since I've finished with my move | 16:09 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: great | 16:09 |
| pnavarro | I have all my machines | 16:09 |
| alexpilotti | pnavarro: great news! :-) | 16:09 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: alexpilotti you'll collaborate on the fix I assume | 16:10 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: alexpilotti let me know if there's something i can do | 16:10 |
| alexpilotti | pnavarro: ping me when you have time! | 16:10 |
| primeministerp | ok moving on | 16:10 |
| primeministerp | #topic hyper-v options name change | 16:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "hyper-v options name change (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 16:11 | |
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| primeministerp | the hyper-v config options are going to be renamed | 16:11 |
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| primeministerp | they will be under the "hyperv" header for nova, and "HYPERV" for quantum | 16:12 |
| alexpilotti | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/23352/ | 16:12 |
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| alexpilotti | thats an annoying thing | 16:12 |
| primeministerp | yes it is | 16:12 |
| alexpilotti | oin Nova they want the names lowercase | 16:12 |
| alexpilotti | in QUantum uppercase | 16:13 |
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| alexpilotti | IMO, sicne [DEFAULT] is anyway uppercase, I'd go that way | 16:13 |
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| primeministerp | I too prefer consistancy | 16:13 |
| pnavarro | lol | 16:13 |
| alexpilotti | looks like the check will be case insensitive | 16:13 |
| alexpilotti | otherwise we'll have a gazillion issues | 16:14 |
| alexpilotti | nova.conf has [hyperv], quantum.conf has [HYPERV] | 16:14 |
| primeministerp | yes we would | 16:14 |
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| alexpilotti | I'm going to send an email to the ML as soon as this patch is merged | 16:14 |
| primeministerp | perfect | 16:15 |
| primeministerp | #topic RDP Console Update | 16:15 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "RDP Console Update (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 16:15 | |
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| primeministerp | so as we discussed i'll get start to get that code running here | 16:15 |
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| primeministerp | alexpilotti: is there anything specific you wanted to discuss here | 16:16 |
| alexpilotti | here's the repo | 16:16 |
| alexpilotti | #link https://github.com/cloudbase/FreeRDP-WebConnect | 16:16 |
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| primeministerp | alexpilotti: execellent | 16:16 |
| alexpilotti | and I have a youtube video about it, let me look for it | 16:16 |
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| alexpilotti | #link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhBa-IuTQAs | 16:17 |
| primeministerp | great | 16:17 |
| primeministerp | ok last topic I have on the agenda | 16:17 |
| primeministerp | #topic RC1 wrap up | 16:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "RC1 wrap up (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 16:17 | |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: what do we have left to get in for RC1 | 16:17 |
| primeministerp | outside of what's in the pipeline now | 16:18 |
| alexpilotti | here's basically the last chance to ask for bug fix :-) | 16:18 |
| alexpilotti | gongysh asked for some patches on Quantum | 16:18 |
| alexpilotti | they added some stuff there | 16:18 |
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| primeministerp | alexpilotti: ok | 16:19 |
| alexpilotti | I'm looking for them | 16:19 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: the only other one I would like to see in is is the live migration fix | 16:19 |
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| alexpilotti | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/21069/ | 16:20 |
| alexpilotti | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/21175/ | 16:20 |
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| primeministerp | alexpilotti: thx | 16:20 |
| alexpilotti | Those are the 2 Quantum patches AFAIK | 16:20 |
| primeministerp | thx | 16:21 |
| primeministerp | checking them out now | 16:21 |
| alexpilotti | we have to take a look at what they did for OVS and bring it to teh Hyper-V plugin | 16:21 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: agreed | 16:21 |
| alexpilotti | otherwise we'll lose protocol compatibility | 16:21 |
| alexpilotti | pnavarro: ^^ | 16:21 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: compatibility and interoperability is key | 16:22 |
| primeministerp | #topic General Discussion | 16:22 |
| alexpilotti | other small stuff: I have to replace teh openssl.exe process call in the nova client with DLL calls | 16:22 |
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| pnavarro | ok, taking a look | 16:22 |
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| primeministerp | alexpilotti: will that get in before RC1 | 16:23 |
| alexpilotti | I'll try | 16:23 |
| alexpilotti | it's not too important | 16:23 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: ok | 16:23 |
| primeministerp | ociuhandu: i'll be bugging you later | 16:23 |
| alexpilotti | I mean, getting rid of it means that you'll only need the OpenSSL dll | 16:23 |
| ociuhandu | primeministerp: ok | 16:24 |
| alexpilotti | ah, we have possibly a bug on flat networking in QUantum | 16:24 |
| alexpilotti | a guy from IBM US checked it and asked me about it | 16:24 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: ok | 16:24 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: has a formal bug been submitted yet? | 16:24 |
| alexpilotti | nope | 16:24 |
| alexpilotti | he wants to know if it's a config issue | 16:25 |
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| alexpilotti | it means that I have to check it out | 16:25 |
| primeministerp | gotcha | 16:25 |
| alexpilotti | flat networking was not exactly my priority nr 1 so far :-) | 16:25 |
| primeministerp | hehe | 16:25 |
| pnavarro | hahaha | 16:26 |
| primeministerp | anyone have anything else they want to add | 16:26 |
| alexpilotti | cloudbase-init | 16:26 |
| alexpilotti | I'm adding the code for resizing the partitions | 16:26 |
| primeministerp | great | 16:26 |
| primeministerp | that's good news | 16:26 |
| alexpilotti | the good news is that it's entirely Python code | 16:26 |
| primeministerp | that's even better news | 16:26 |
| alexpilotti | and it resizes also boot partitions on 2003 | 16:26 |
| primeministerp | awesome | 16:27 |
| alexpilotti | which can't be done w diskpart.exe | 16:27 |
| primeministerp | i'm sure there's still a lot of 2003 vms in the wild | 16:27 |
| alexpilotti | well we have that use case w 30.000 ... | 16:27 |
| alexpilotti | that cannot be named here :-) | 16:27 |
| primeministerp | *nod* | 16:28 |
| primeministerp | ok | 16:28 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: anything you'd like to add? | 16:28 |
| alexpilotti | anyway a lot of people hace applicatiosn certified for 2003 | 16:28 |
| alexpilotti | one more thing on cloudbase-init: I got a pull request from Mirantis | 16:28 |
| alexpilotti | more EC2 metadata support | 16:28 |
| primeministerp | nice | 16:28 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: in general are the new page hits on the dl still increasing | 16:29 |
| primeministerp | er new ips | 16:29 |
| primeministerp | that is | 16:29 |
| alexpilotti | dl? | 16:29 |
| primeministerp | your download numbers | 16:30 |
| primeministerp | for cloudbase-init | 16:30 |
| alexpilotti | yep they are | 16:30 |
| primeministerp | great | 16:30 |
| alexpilotti | we'll have to do some stats | 16:30 |
| primeministerp | it's good news for windows workloads | 16:30 |
| alexpilotti | a lot of interest so far | 16:30 |
| primeministerp | i'm going to close the meeting unless there's anything else to be noted | 16:31 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: pnavarro all set? | 16:31 |
| alexpilotti | yep | 16:31 |
| primeministerp | #endmeeting | 16:31 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 5 16:31:48 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:31 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2013/hyper_v.2013-03-05-15.57.html | 16:31 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2013/hyper_v.2013-03-05-15.57.txt | 16:31 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2013/hyper_v.2013-03-05-15.57.log.html | 16:31 |
| primeministerp | thanks everyone | 16:31 |
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| markmcclain | I don't see dims online | 16:48 |
| markmcclain | I may just fix this and repost | 16:49 |
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| ayoung | KEYSTONE!!!!! | 18:00 |
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| henrynash | yipee! | 18:00 |
| dwaite | OMG | 18:00 |
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| ayoung | #topic https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/KeystoneMeeting#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 18:00 |
| ayoung | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/KeystoneMeeting#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 18:00 |
| ayoung | I guess we need to start the meeting first, though | 18:00 |
| ayoung | just saw dolph in and then quit.... | 18:00 |
| ayoung | heckj, you running this thing? | 18:01 |
| heckj | here | 18:01 |
| heckj | #startmeeting keystone | 18:01 |
| gyee | \o | 18:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 5 18:01:06 2013 UTC. The chair is heckj. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'keystone' | 18:01 |
| ayoung | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/KeystoneMeeting#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 18:01 |
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| heckj | my IRC client decided it needed to update | 18:01 |
| henrynash | me too | 18:01 |
| topol | Hello | 18:01 |
| heckj | ola all! | 18:01 |
| dwaite | is there more information on the havana summit? | 18:01 |
| spzala | Hi all! | 18:01 |
| dwaite | (checks wiki) | 18:01 |
| heckj | #topic high priority issues? | 18:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "high priority issues? (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:02 | |
| dwaite | and there we go | 18:02 |
| ayoung | dwaite, I know I have a hotel room, a plane ticket, and a summit talk. What else is there? | 18:02 |
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| heckj | Anything burning down? | 18:02 |
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| heckj | henrynash, dolphm - if either of you are going to be running for PTL, please nominate yourselves to the mailing list ASAP | 18:03 |
| ayoung | 0 critical bugs | 18:03 |
| heckj | Okay - next topic | 18:03 |
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| ayoung | heckj, they did | 18:03 |
| heckj | #topic trusts | 18:03 |
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| heckj | humm, haven't seen it yet | 18:03 |
| ayoung | or do you mean on #openstack as opposed to #openstack-dev? | 18:03 |
| heckj | openstack-dev - I must have just missed it in the deluge | 18:03 |
| dolphm | o/ | 18:03 |
| heckj | ayoung: trusts topic? | 18:04 |
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| ayoung | heckj, Ok | 18:04 |
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| ayoung | so of the dependency list on the agenda | 18:04 |
| ayoung | the oslo migration has gone through | 18:04 |
| ayoung | gyee has a change he wants to push for his patch | 18:04 |
| gyee | I got denied by gerrit | 18:04 |
| ayoung | I would prefer to merge his patch as is and do his change as an additional | 18:04 |
| gyee | my contact info wasn't on the ICLA :) | 18:05 |
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| dolphm | lets approve gyee's patch as is and file a bug for his desired change | 18:05 |
| ayoung | dolphm, +2 | 18:05 |
| topol | gyee, join the club!!! | 18:05 |
| gyee | sounds good | 18:05 |
| gyee | topol, I am deciding whether to put my Cayman or Bahamas address there | 18:05 |
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| topol | gyee, :-) | 18:06 |
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| ayoung | gyee, in the interim, if you want me to submit for you, post to github and I can pull the patch. You will list as the author, I will list as the commiter | 18:06 |
| dolphm | gyee: you dont trust the foundation? | 18:06 |
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| ayoung | heckj, so trusts just needs one official core more last I looked | 18:06 |
| gyee | dolphm, I am trying to figure out what else the foundation is looking for besides my email address | 18:07 |
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| ayoung | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/20289/ | 18:07 |
| heckj | ayoung: gotcha | 18:07 |
| topol | gyee, did you re-register for the ICLA.I had to to do that | 18:07 |
| gyee | ayoung, I am mostly fine with trusts | 18:07 |
| heckj | ayoung: will run through it after this meeting | 18:07 |
| ayoung | topol, yeah but he tried to avoid putting in an address | 18:07 |
| gyee | topol, I can't even cancel my ICLA | 18:07 |
| heckj | next topic | 18:08 |
| topol | gyee, I had to re-register my user name :-( and then fill everything out. Even though I was showing up in the pulldown | 18:08 |
| heckj | #topic folsom stable | 18:09 |
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| ayoung | heckj, OK, so background | 18:09 |
| ayoung | jaypipes, has listed in an email a bunch of PKI token based issues | 18:09 |
| ayoung | we are trying to get PKI tokens usable by backporting the reasonable set of changes to address those problems, | 18:10 |
| heckj | makes sense | 18:10 |
| heckj | I'm aware of some of these from Vish | 18:10 |
| ayoung | the origianl rationale for PKI tokens was not security, but perf | 18:10 |
| heckj | (nova's in memory caching setup) | 18:10 |
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| ayoung | so beyond the 24 hour issue | 18:10 |
| ayoung | there are a couple on caching and hashing PKI tokens in auth_token middle ware | 18:10 |
| ayoung | Just want to get agreement from the team here that they are viable candidates for backporting | 18:11 |
| dolphm | ayoung: add us to backport reviews? | 18:11 |
| ayoung | dolphm, will do. These were just identified this morning, and I haven't completed yet, but will do | 18:12 |
| dolphm | ayoung: deployments can always switch to keystoneclient auth token as well | 18:12 |
| heckj | #link Backport potential for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/15116/ | 18:12 |
| heckj | #link Hashing PKI tokens in auth-token middleware https://review.openstack.org/#/c/15116/ | 18:12 |
| ayoung | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/23564/ | 18:12 |
| heckj | #link Backport for in memory caching https://review.openstack.org/#/c/23309/3 | 18:12 |
| ayoung | #link backport of auth_token hash pki key PKI tokens https://review.openstack.org/#/c/23564/ | 18:13 |
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| heckj | ayoung: is the request to review, or is there specific discussion on this we should have now? | 18:15 |
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| ayoung | request is to review...just wanted to make sure that this didn't happen without consensus. | 18:15 |
| heckj | #topic Havanna summit | 18:16 |
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| heckj | We have some known issues on the agenda page (link above) | 18:16 |
| heckj | Anyone start an etherpad with related pieces? | 18:16 |
| henrynash | +1 for the open standards for auth & authz | 18:17 |
| heckj | Also - please submit topics at summit.openstack.org | 18:18 |
| heckj | #link http://summit.openstack.org | 18:18 |
| heckj | ^ this is where we'll be coordinating the topics for keystone officially | 18:18 |
| uvirtbot | heckj: Error: "this" is not a valid command. | 18:18 |
| dolphm | uvirtbot: ssh | 18:19 |
| heckj | I hate uvirtbot | 18:19 |
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| gyee | heckj, I will be adding a couple more to the list | 18:19 |
| uvirtbot | dolphm: Error: "ssh" is not a valid command. | 18:19 |
| henrynash | heckj: do you know when/how we decide on which topics? | 18:19 |
| dolphm | uvirtbot: be quiet | 18:19 |
| uvirtbot | dolphm: Error: "be" is not a valid command. | 18:19 |
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| dwaite | uvirtbot: kill -9 uvirtbot | 18:20 |
| uvirtbot | dwaite: Error: "kill" is not a valid command. | 18:20 |
| heckj | henrynash: the process is that everyone submits as they like - a reviewer (me, in this case as PTL) goes through and reviews for content and asked for updates, and then finally pre-approves and/or selects sessions. | 18:20 |
| heckj | The PTL also ends up doing some of the scheduling, within whatever blocks that ttx enables/lays out. | 18:20 |
| henrynash | heck; sounds good | 18:20 |
| heckj | The last two summits they've had us in these block/segments, but the downside of that is what we saw the ML lately re: Quantum and Nova - cross-polination becomes damned difficult | 18:21 |
| heckj | I don | 18:21 |
| heckj | I don't know that there's a scheduling oriented solution to that - nothing's been proposed anyway | 18:21 |
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| heckj | #topic open discussion | 18:23 |
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| henrynash | heckj: So on auth_token, we have this fix: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/23401/ | 18:23 |
| ayoung | henrynash, looks good, minor nit | 18:24 |
| henrynash | heckj: in general I think most people are OK with it, except for wether we do the fallback approach (i.e. ttry v3, if it fails, try v2) | 18:24 |
| heckj | #link review please: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/23401/ | 18:24 |
| gyee | https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-keystoneclient/+bug/1136476 | 18:25 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1136476 in python-keystoneclient "keystone discover command not finding the keystone endpoint running on localhost" [High,Confirmed] | 18:25 |
| gyee | is get version supposed to return a 300? | 18:25 |
| gyee | in v2, the spec says 200 or 203 | 18:25 |
| henrynash | I'm going to add the fall back later today | 18:25 |
| topol | uvirtbot reminds me of my 8 year old son. | 18:25 |
| uvirtbot | topol: Error: "reminds" is not a valid command. | 18:25 |
| heckj | henrynash: the fall-back sounds good | 18:25 |
| gyee | for v3, spec says 300 | 18:25 |
| dolphm | henrynash: on hte fallback behavior, you only need to fall back once -- if v3 isn't available just permanently fall back to v2? | 18:26 |
| henrynash | gyee, dolphm: do we do a get version, or just try the validate…what would it return if the url is "wrong" | 18:26 |
| dolphm | gyee: the 300 response is sort of outside the API spec, but the base url should provide a 300 | 18:26 |
| ayoung | For folsom stable, I think we should mark V2 as stable. For Grizzly, Dolph voiced it should be deprecated. Any opinions? | 18:26 |
| henrynash | dolphm: although we need to decide where we store that fact , since this is the client now | 18:26 |
| dolphm | gyee: GET /v3/ should return a 2xx | 18:26 |
| dolphm | gyee: as should GET /v2.0/ | 18:27 |
| gyee | dolphm, keystone is return 300 currently | 18:27 |
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| dolphm | gyee: correct, GET / should return a 300 with links to /v2.0/ and /v3/ | 18:27 |
| dolphm | gyee: i don't think we've included v3 there yet | 18:27 |
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| dolphm | henrynash: ideally, on __init__ it should call GET / and decide if it's going to use /v2.0/ or /v3/ | 18:29 |
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| gyee | dolphm, so get / should return 300 but get /v2.0 should return 2xx | 18:29 |
| ayoung | dolphm, on trust failures, bknudson1 suggests returning a 403 instead of a 401. I was thinking that it was due to sending in the trust that they got denied, but and so it was a 401 (Unauthorized means that the user needs to log in) as they ciould perform the action with different credentials, but I can see the argument for 403 (Forbidden) | 18:29 |
| dolphm | gyee: yes | 18:29 |
| henrynash | dolphm: Ok, we'll do that…unless that have set the default to v2 | 18:29 |
| bknudson1 | 401 says "The response MUST include a WWW-Authenticate header field (section 14.47) containing a challenge applicable to the requested resource." | 18:30 |
| bknudson1 | so, does our response include a WWW-Authenticate header field when we return 401? | 18:30 |
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| ayoung | bknudson1, good question. I'd have to look at the mechanism, but since we do the equivalent of form based auth anyway, I don't know if it makes a diference | 18:31 |
| ayoung | but, if not, that would be a bug | 18:31 |
| dolphm | bknudson1: i believe the response returned to the end user by auth_token will contain a WWW-Authenticate, but keystone will not return one on a 401 (no reason why we don't) | 18:31 |
| ayoung | the question is which is the right return code, and I think I've just convinced myself you are right | 18:32 |
| dwaite | I have a good deal of experience with SAML and OAuth2, and have been looking to how I can best contribute | 18:32 |
| dwaite | and the right context to get a discussion going | 18:32 |
| dolphm | dwaite: awesome | 18:32 |
| henrynash | dwaite: great…I think this is an important area | 18:32 |
| ayoung | dwaite, I would say that we need a summit session on those | 18:32 |
| ayoung | Web SSO in general | 18:32 |
| ayoung | alternative auth methods. | 18:33 |
| henrynash | ayoung: +1…happy to work with however wants to on a session on that | 18:33 |
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| dwaite | with OAuth2, the concept at its root is that you use a component called an Authorization Server (AS) to have a user authorize a client, which might or might not be named | 18:34 |
| dwaite | that authorization is represented as a token, which is applied to HTTP requests | 18:34 |
| dwaite | so, it seems the most compatible | 18:34 |
| dwaite | I'm already looking at coming out for the Summit | 18:35 |
| dwaite | as of 35 minutes ago :) | 18:35 |
| dolphm | auth flows that require a browser / ui are typically shot down at the summit, but i think we should have room for them with pluggable auth -- it just can't be the primary auth method | 18:36 |
| dwaite | assuming I can get that worked out relatively quickly, i'd be happy to participate/lead in a session on that | 18:36 |
| ayoung | dolphm, +1 on that | 18:36 |
| topol | dwaite: AWESOME | 18:36 |
| dwaite | oauth 2 has a ton of methods to get a token, including username/password via a REST call. | 18:36 |
| dolphm | dwaite: feel free to submit to http://summit.openstack.org/ once you know you're attending :) | 18:36 |
| dwaite | ok! | 18:37 |
| ayoung | that has been my primary issue with the WebSSO mechanisms in general, they try to work around lmitiations with the browser as opposed to fixing the auth mechanisms like Kerberos and X509 that perform crypto-secure Auth | 18:37 |
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| dolphm | i'm personally hoping that we can use a future version of oauth -- there was some discussion on their list for a gui-free flow last i checked | 18:38 |
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| dwaite | ayoung: there have been several mechanisms that have tried to fix things at a more fundamental level. The problem is that they have then required support for the fixed versions. Web SSO is widespread because it doesn't require any new client software | 18:39 |
| dwaite | someday, someone will create an approach that fixes things at a fundamental level with a fallback that works with today's infrastructure, and then that method IMHO will "win" :) | 18:39 |
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| ayoung | dwaite, understood. But also understand that Mozilla and Chrome have their own processes, and things can get fixed there, which makes them work pretty much everywhere. | 18:39 |
| ayoung | Most web SSO approaches that I have seen have been broken by design. | 18:40 |
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| ayoung | But I think we can use X509 as a basis without reworking the browser. | 18:40 |
| dwaite | dolphm: there are several gui-free flows; you can exchange a SAML assertion for a token, or authenticate a user directly via username/password. | 18:41 |
| ayoung | It will be ugly to start, and probably would require a browser plugin to make it smooth | 18:41 |
| dwaite | ayoung: I don't think we have the room long enough for that discussion ;-) | 18:42 |
| ayoung | dwaite, you need to look at davidchadwick's implementation of Federation. It has ties ins for the WebSSO mechanisms already. They demod last summit | 18:42 |
| dwaite | ok | 18:42 |
| dwaite | I am btw from Ping Identity ( read that there was some discussion of the call on openstack-dev) | 18:43 |
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| dolphm | dwaite: awesome, i *may* be going to that summit as well | 18:45 |
| spzala | #link review request for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/22624/ (dolphm, henrynash, yuriy.. thanks for your initial review and comments) | 18:45 |
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| dwaite | I assume that David Chadwick's implementation is attached to the blueprint. I'll review | 18:46 |
| henrynash | spzala: still some work to do there, but making progress | 18:46 |
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| spzala | henrynash: ah, :) OK. thanks. | 18:47 |
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| dolphm | spzala: will do | 18:48 |
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| spzala | dolphm: thanks! | 18:49 |
| dolphm | spzala: also blurring the line between bug fix and feature add -- i'd like ttx's okay there as well | 18:49 |
| bknudson1 | ldap identity auth is broken right now, returns Not Implemented. | 18:50 |
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| spzala | dolphm: :( sorry, didn't get it | 18:50 |
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| henrynash | bknudsom1: you mean the authenticate function in the ldap backend? | 18:52 |
| bknudson1 | henrynash: let me take a quick look again... | 18:53 |
| henrynash | bknudson1: np | 18:54 |
| gyee | dolphm, ayoung, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/23158/ | 18:54 |
| dolphm | dwaite: approved and registered for ping summit | 18:54 |
| spzala | dolphm: will you be talking to ttx? | 18:54 |
| gyee | should I cancel that one | 18:54 |
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| dolphm | spzala: yes, i'll ping him once it's ready to merge | 18:55 |
| bknudson1 | henrynash: the ldap backend doesn't implement list_groups_for_user, and that gets called during authenticate | 18:55 |
| bknudson1 | henrynash: I could look into this some more, would need to set up my devstack. | 18:55 |
| henrynash | bknudson1: ah, right…and I think that is in spzala's patc | 18:55 |
| spzala | dolphm: OK, great. Thanks! | 18:56 |
| dwaite | dolphm; havana summit or ping's cloud identity summit? | 18:56 |
| dolphm | dwaite: well, both | 18:56 |
| dwaite | (I'll be speaking at CIS as well) | 18:56 |
| dwaite | hah, fun! | 18:56 |
| bknudson1 | henrynash: my concern was mostly about the comment that spzala's changes were a bug fix or a new feature. | 18:56 |
| ayoung | gyee, what was the change in 23158? | 18:56 |
| heckj | going to have to wrap this in ~4 min | 18:56 |
| ayoung | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/23158/6..7/keystone/auth/methods/token.py ? | 18:57 |
| dwaite | dolphm: you have good taste in summits | 18:57 |
| gyee | ayoung, just added the G3 token support | 18:57 |
| spzala | bknudsonl: list_groups_for_user is implemented under the patch I have put up for review | 18:57 |
| henrynash | bknudson1: it is tagged against a bug…but I think not being able to authenticate might trump that one | 18:57 |
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| dolphm | gyee: you killed the merge though lol | 18:58 |
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| ayoung | gyee, was it just that file and the token_facotry change? That was all I saw? | 18:58 |
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| gyee | ayoung, that's it | 18:59 |
| gyee | just two changes | 19:00 |
| heckj | #endmeeting | 19:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 5 19:00:48 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2013/keystone.2013-03-05-18.01.html | 19:00 |
| dolphm | gyee: approved | 19:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2013/keystone.2013-03-05-18.01.txt | 19:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2013/keystone.2013-03-05-18.01.log.html | 19:00 |
| gyee | dolphm, thanks! | 19:01 |
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| clarkb | o/ | 19:01 |
| jeblair | \o | 19:01 |
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| fungi | hey | 19:01 |
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| anteaya | o/ | 19:01 |
| mordred | o/ | 19:01 |
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| pleia2 | o/ | 19:02 |
| fungi | /o\ | 19:02 |
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| jeblair | #startmeeting infra | 19:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 5 19:02:29 2013 UTC. The chair is jeblair. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'infra' | 19:02 |
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| jeblair | before fungi falls asleep on the desk | 19:02 |
| fungi | heh. that was pushups | 19:02 |
| fungi | i think | 19:02 |
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| fungi | could be headdesk | 19:03 |
| jeblair | fungi: it's all about context | 19:03 |
| clarkb | new tie fighter | 19:03 |
| jeblair | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2013/infra.2013-02-26-19.02.html | 19:03 |
| jeblair | #topic last meeting | 19:03 |
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| jeblair | fungi: did you disable the old wiki some time after march 1? | 19:03 |
| fungi | um, it's still sometime after march 1st right? | 19:03 |
| jeblair | fungi: and will be for some time! | 19:03 |
| * fungi does that right after the meeting ;) | 19:04 | |
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| jeblair | fungi: so you'll just shut down services, yeah? | 19:04 |
| jeblair | oh, it's disabling an apache vhost, iirc | 19:04 |
| fungi | jeblair: i was just planning on commenting back out the scriptalias and aliases i'd added back to the vhost config on it to make it work before | 19:04 |
| jeblair | since we still have tarballs there. | 19:04 |
| jeblair | fungi: cool. | 19:04 |
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| fungi | i think ttx may have still had other stuff being served from that vhost or something | 19:05 |
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| jeblair | mordred: did you yell at hpcloud to fix the openstackjenkins account (az3 doesn't work)? | 19:05 |
| mordred | I did | 19:05 |
| mordred | so far, nothing | 19:05 |
| jeblair | fungi: yeah, i believe ttx is working on making the release status stuff nicely installable | 19:05 |
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| jeblair | mordred: awesome. | 19:06 |
| jeblair | #action mordred yell at hpcloud some more about az3 | 19:06 |
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| pleia2 | hehe | 19:06 |
| jeblair | #topic CLA | 19:06 |
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| fungi | it happened | 19:07 |
| jeblair | yay! | 19:07 |
| fungi | fallout continues | 19:07 |
| fungi | generally successful, but as always communication is never perfect | 19:07 |
| pleia2 | I got a few DMs on twitter I was able to help with, so I'm glad I announced it there (@openstack retweeted) | 19:07 |
| fungi | so we have lots of people and some percentage are bound to get confused | 19:07 |
| pleia2 | no actual problems though, all just email mismatch | 19:08 |
| clarkb | >200 people seem to have successfully done it though | 19:08 |
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| * fungi checks the number again real fast | 19:08 | |
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| clarkb | which I think is a success is for just a few days | 19:08 |
| clarkb | pretend that second "is" never existed | 19:08 |
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| anteaya | clarkb, I have a filter for such things | 19:09 |
| fungi | 294 now | 19:09 |
| pleia2 | woo | 19:09 |
| anteaya | nice | 19:09 |
| fungi | we'll break 300 today utc easy | 19:09 |
| jeblair | that's 58% of ATCs for an entire release cycle. | 19:09 |
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| fungi | i guess some people do actually work on this project. good news! | 19:09 |
| pleia2 | :) | 19:09 |
| mordred | yeah. that's actually a nice stat to keep in our back pocket, when people ask "how many of the ATCs are _real_" | 19:10 |
| fungi | todd said he was going to try to make a change to help some of the e-mail mismatch issue this week | 19:10 |
| pleia2 | great | 19:10 |
| fungi | if someone wanted to do a time-trended cla signing chart, i could provide raw data | 19:11 |
| fungi | you can infer some level of activity of different percentages of the devs from how long it took them to sign | 19:12 |
| pleia2 | cool | 19:12 |
| zaro | sorry, my pc clock is stuck on 10:58. | 19:12 |
| anteaya | fungi, would graphviz work for that? | 19:12 |
| fungi | anteaya: it might, though it would probably be overkill. gnuplot would be my go-to there | 19:12 |
| pleia2 | I'm thinking something more like gnuplot | 19:12 |
| anteaya | fungi, pleia2 I haven't worked with gnuplot but it if takes less than 2 hours to do, I will do it | 19:13 |
| clarkb | iirc you give it a csv and it draws graph | 19:13 |
| fungi | anyway, i think that's generally it for cla stuff. oh and we trimmed the icla preamble and made the system and usg cla descriptions more scary yesterday | 19:13 |
| pleia2 | I seem to recall it being pretty easy to do simple stuff | 19:13 |
| clarkb | fungi: maybe we can add gerrit specific instructions to the page? | 19:14 |
| anteaya | if I can get something out of spending 2 hours max on it, then we will have a chart | 19:14 |
| clarkb | eg email must match foundation email and you need to enter contact info | 19:14 |
| fungi | clarkb: perhaps... though i still doubt the people who had issues would have succeeded had that been in there | 19:14 |
| fungi | but at least we can point to it and say we did all we could | 19:15 |
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| clarkb | no, but if we have it then we can at least ask people to read the docs | 19:15 |
| fungi | my thoughts as well | 19:15 |
| jeblair | gnuplot is not Free Software, which is actually why I'm more familiar with R. | 19:15 |
| clarkb | really? but it says gnu | 19:15 |
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| fungi | gnuplot is nonfree? i should pay more attention to my vrms | 19:15 |
| anteaya | jeblair, what is R.? | 19:16 |
| jeblair | fungi: it's dfsg and osi free. | 19:16 |
| fungi | ahh | 19:16 |
| jeblair | fungi: but not rms free. you have to distribute patches, you can't distribute modified source. | 19:16 |
| fungi | ugh. how qmail of them | 19:16 |
| clarkb | interesting | 19:16 |
| jeblair | fungi: it's not gnu software, they just thought the name was cool. | 19:16 |
| fungi | well, sure | 19:16 |
| pleia2 | huh, I didn't realize | 19:16 |
| jeblair | anteaya: statistics package. like "S". | 19:17 |
| anteaya | kinda like vitamin water, that isn't | 19:17 |
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| anteaya | jeblair, hmmm | 19:17 |
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| fungi | yeah, r is also a good choice. tons of the cran extensions are packaged in debian for a long time | 19:17 |
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| clarkb | I do have one more CLA related question | 19:17 |
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| clarkb | the corporate cla and government cla process has not changed and no resigning of them is necessary, correct? | 19:18 |
| anteaya | well, I will focus on creating a graph with fungi's data for 2 hours, and if I am successful, we will have a graph and if not we won't | 19:18 |
| anteaya | how's that? | 19:18 |
| mordred | anteaya: ++ | 19:18 |
| clarkb | fungi: there has been some confusion of that. you may want to check the mailling list and respond to those questions if you haven't already. | 19:18 |
| anteaya | thank you | 19:18 |
| fungi | clarkb: the process has not changed, but the contents of those agreements may have. that's left between corporate or usg departments and the foundation to suss out | 19:18 |
| clarkb | (I am still trying to catch up on mail this morning) | 19:18 |
| fungi | i will take a look at the ml. got behind on that today | 19:18 |
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| fungi | it's mid-afternoon here and i'm still trying to catch up on e-mail (failing too) | 19:19 |
| jeblair | yeah, i'd rather we not wade too much into that other than to direct people to contact the foundation | 19:19 |
| fungi | that's the plan | 19:20 |
| clarkb | ++ | 19:20 |
| fungi | hopefully one of them will have already responded by the time i read it | 19:20 |
| jeblair | i mean, actually, i'd love for us to be the legal department, because things would get a whole lot simpler. :) | 19:20 |
| jeblair | but at the moment, i think we aren't. | 19:20 |
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| fungi | i was getting a bunch of similar questions in #-dev yesterday and people wouldn't take "talk to the foundation" as an answer | 19:20 |
| fungi | because, you know, that's effort | 19:21 |
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| jeblair | right, the place to go for legal advice regarding a contract signed between two corporations is a guy on irc. | 19:21 |
| pleia2 | hah | 19:21 |
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| fungi | apparently. i try not to understand the thought process there too much | 19:22 |
| pleia2 | I'd love to see that conversation with the lawyers "fungi said it was ok" "...fungi?" | 19:22 |
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| pleia2 | :) | 19:22 |
| fungi | okay, other cla questions? | 19:22 |
| fungi | put a fork in it. next topic? | 19:23 |
| jeblair | fungi: do you think the email mismatch thing is widespread enough we should do more communication? | 19:23 |
| fungi | ahh, possibly | 19:23 |
| fungi | we had a thread which covered it on the ml, but a separate announcement could help there | 19:23 |
| clarkb | ++ | 19:23 |
| jeblair | fungi: or do you think we can just handle it one at a time until the profile system is updated? | 19:23 |
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| fungi | most of the people who were taken aback by it admitted up front they don't read the ml though | 19:23 |
| pleia2 | yeah | 19:23 |
| clarkb | a dedicated thread makes it googleable too | 19:23 |
| jeblair | couldn't hurt i guess. is the wiki updated with that tidbit? | 19:24 |
| fungi | also, todd's changes probably won't help the larger issue which is people don't know what e-mail address they used with the foundation when they signed up a year ago | 19:24 |
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| fungi | i think the wiki states it explicitly, but i'll make sure and fix it if not | 19:24 |
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| fungi | and send an announcement in summary | 19:24 |
| jeblair | cool | 19:25 |
| jeblair | #action fungi send ml announcement highlighting email matching for cla | 19:25 |
| mordred | also, tweet a link to the message | 19:25 |
| mordred | because apparently some people do read twitter | 19:25 |
| * fungi tweets mordred a new buzzword | 19:25 | |
| * mordred fungis a new tweet | 19:25 | |
| clarkb | it should rain wherever mordred is today | 19:26 |
| pleia2 | ah yeah, I'll tweet the msg | 19:26 |
| fungi | someone in here will likely be more than happy to tweet links to e-mail messages | 19:26 |
| fungi | thanks pleia2! | 19:26 |
| jeblair | #topic jenkins slave operating systems | 19:26 |
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| jeblair | quantal: i think we probably don't care about jclouds wrt to quantal anymore, yeah? | 19:26 |
| clarkb | I don't think we do | 19:26 |
| fungi | sounds not | 19:27 |
| jeblair | since we decided to stop using jclouds because it keeps giving us bad slaves | 19:27 |
| fungi | and rackspace has been a bit of a black hole on that quantal ticket anyway | 19:27 |
| clarkb | does devstack-gate use the same metadata? | 19:27 |
| clarkb | I don't think it does (it uses explicit image names iirc) | 19:27 |
| jeblair | clarkb: it's basically the same as the launch script | 19:27 |
| fungi | i updated it again yesterday and still no word back since mid last week | 19:27 |
| jeblair | which i think fungi has sucessfully used to launch quantal, yeah? | 19:27 |
| clarkb | jeblair: ya | 19:27 |
| fungi | clarkb: jeblair: yeah novaclient's fine with it. jclouds is not | 19:27 |
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| fungi | so no worries there | 19:28 |
| fungi | rhel is very very close now! i need to see if we got more eyes on dprince's last few changes | 19:28 |
| pleia2 | \o/ | 19:28 |
| clarkb | fungi: you did, but I didn't want to approve right beforethe meeting | 19:28 |
| jeblair | fungi: so with that in mind, does that mean we're ready to spin up a small pool of quantal slaves and move some projects over? | 19:28 |
| jeblair | fungi: i guess they should be 8g slaves too, so we get the 4vcpus we need. | 19:28 |
| fungi | jeblair: sure. we have 4 but i can add more | 19:28 |
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| fungi | oh, well quantal1-4 are 2g | 19:29 |
| fungi | i can trash them and re-spin | 19:29 |
| jeblair | fungi: yeah, let's do that, and maybe spin up 8. | 19:29 |
| fungi | okay so 8x 8g quantal jenkins slaves coming up right after the meeting | 19:29 |
| fungi | and if dprince's last changes go through then maybe i'll have a rhel6 slave on jenkins for us too | 19:30 |
| jeblair | groovy! | 19:30 |
| fungi | assuming nothing else unexpected crops up tehre | 19:30 |
| fungi | er, there | 19:30 |
| jeblair | #action fungi spin up quantal slaves | 19:30 |
| * fungi is getting dizzy already | 19:31 | |
| jeblair | #topic grenade | 19:31 |
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| jeblair | dtroyer_zz: ping | 19:31 |
| jeblair | so there's a review proposed to add grenade to gerrit | 19:32 |
| fungi | his nick makes me think a pong is not to be expected for a while | 19:32 |
| jeblair | though dtroyer_zz hasn't left feedback on it yet | 19:32 |
| jeblair | with that in place, we should be able to start testing it (non-voting). | 19:33 |
| jeblair | #action jeblair wake up dtroyer and ask him about grenade | 19:33 |
| markwash | dtroyer_zz should be back soonish (20 min?) | 19:33 |
| fungi | just in time for the end of the meeting ;) | 19:33 |
| markwash | like a boss | 19:34 |
| clarkb | office wifi has me on my phone now | 19:34 |
| jeblair | heh | 19:34 |
| fungi | clarkb: you should find a job with a technology company | 19:34 |
| jeblair | #topic gearman | 19:34 |
| pleia2 | zing | 19:34 |
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| jeblair | zaro: progress is being made, i see! | 19:34 |
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| zaro | yes. | 19:35 |
| jeblair | zaro: i think we should start trying to get a handle on the gearman queue cancel problem | 19:35 |
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| jeblair | since that's something that needs changing in gearman | 19:35 |
| jeblair | mordred: did you mention gearman plugins last week? | 19:35 |
| clarkb | zaro is experiencing the same network trouble | 19:35 |
| fungi | the aforementioned wireless network i guess | 19:36 |
| fungi | ahh, you said same, not some | 19:36 |
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| jeblair | 19:40:18 <mordred> in any case, I think he said that someone made a gearman extension to do it at some point... | 19:37 |
| mordred | yeah. something like that | 19:37 |
| zaro | ok. i think wifi is better now. | 19:37 |
| jeblair | mordred or zaro: have either of you been able to confirm that's a real thing, or was mordred making that up? | 19:37 |
| zaro | yes. will talk to brian again. | 19:37 |
| mordred | but we haven't gotten all that far figuring out what that extension is | 19:38 |
| mordred | cool | 19:38 |
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| mordred | jeblair and I also discussed that we should go through the mental exercise of ensuring that there isn't a way to achieve our needs without the extension | 19:38 |
| jeblair | okay, let me know if i can help. | 19:38 |
| mordred | just to be sure | 19:38 |
| mordred | and also, so that when we bug people about it, we have all of our bases covered for crazy questions they'll ask "why don't you just ... " | 19:38 |
| jeblair | mordred: i believe zaro has some emails from me on the subject. if you need me to, i can try to dig them up. | 19:39 |
| jeblair | zaro: one thing i noticed is that there's some stub methods to have the jenkins plugin cancel queue items.. | 19:39 |
| jeblair | zaro: but i don't think that's strictly necessary; i think we'd want zuul to do it directly | 19:39 |
| zaro | i thought zuul just tells the plugin to cancel but the plugin actually does the work? | 19:40 |
| jeblair | zaro: we need to cancel items on the gearman queue before they are picked up by jenkins | 19:40 |
| jeblair | zaro: so it's extra work to involve jenkins in that | 19:41 |
| zaro | cool! i'll remove. | 19:41 |
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| jeblair | zaro: (this is separate from jenkins being able to abort running jobs, or even cancel items on the _jenkins_ queue) | 19:41 |
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| jeblair | zaro: we can talk after the meeting if we need to go into more detail | 19:42 |
| jeblair | #topic reviewday | 19:42 |
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| zaro | sure. | 19:42 |
| jeblair | pleia2: how's it going? | 19:42 |
| pleia2 | just wrangling some final variable issues to make the reviewday module full indepentent of openstack specifics | 19:42 |
| pleia2 | should be done soon | 19:43 |
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| jeblair | pleia2: cool, you have everything you need? | 19:44 |
| pleia2 | yes, thanks | 19:44 |
| jeblair | #topic Pypi mirror / requirements | 19:44 |
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| fungi | mirroring has been reworked per our brainstorming on friday | 19:44 |
| jeblair | fungi: thanks! it looks like we now have a mirror with everything! | 19:45 |
| fungi | seems good so far, though we're still ironing out minor issues in projects and a few oversights in the script | 19:45 |
| mordred | woot | 19:45 |
| clarkb | now up to 729 packages. one problem with a project requiring babel twice | 19:45 |
| mordred | really? how did that work at all ever? | 19:45 |
| fungi | yeah, i agree we should fix that in the project in question | 19:45 |
| clarkb | mordred we think tox pip installs differently | 19:45 |
| fungi | mordred: tox might not care because it could invoke pip install differently | 19:45 |
| jeblair | i believe this change just ran with _only_ our mirror configured for the devstack jobs: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/23579/ | 19:46 |
| jeblair | and succeeded. | 19:46 |
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| fungi | clarkb: similarly did a few unit test runs for projects against it yesterday, i think | 19:46 |
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| anteaya | yay | 19:46 |
| clarkb | yes nova and zuul master were happy | 19:46 |
| jeblair | it turns out, setting that up is easy. but using only the mirror for unit tests, etc, is harder. | 19:46 |
| jeblair | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/23513/ | 19:47 |
| zaro1 | me on phone too | 19:47 |
| jeblair | that's one way we could handle it. it's not nearly as elegant as i'd like | 19:47 |
| jeblair | particularly since it involved tracking down everywhere we invoked tox. | 19:47 |
| fungi | i meant to ask, are there global configuration files we could be using for those instead of multiple per-user ones? | 19:47 |
| jeblair | fungi: good question, but if there are, it's even harder. | 19:47 |
| fungi | like an /etc/pip.conf et cetera | 19:47 |
| jeblair | fungi: because we use the same slaves to run openstack, openstack-infra, and stackforge. | 19:48 |
| jeblair | and if we start using the mirror to enforce openstack/requirements, those are 3 different mirror configurations | 19:48 |
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| jeblair | and we don't know what should be in place until the job starts. | 19:48 |
| jeblair | (unless we start having dedicated infra and stackforge slaves) | 19:49 |
| fungi | right. i think someone mentioned multiple parallel mirrors (could be linkfarms even) on the pypi server | 19:49 |
| fungi | which would need per-job changes | 19:49 |
| fungi | that's tough | 19:49 |
| jeblair | so my complicated change above handles that | 19:49 |
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| jeblair | by running a script that does the user-level mirror config before any job that runs tox. | 19:49 |
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| fungi | yeah, makes sense. i need to finish reviewing that | 19:50 |
| clarkb | jeblair: you could push the script into tox.ini | 19:50 |
| clarkb | and use the tox jenkins/hudson stuff to only do it on jenkins slaves | 19:50 |
| clarkb | (not necessarily sold on that idea just throwing it out there) | 19:51 |
| fungi | anyway, my initial question about global configs was more in the context of your devstack-gate change not that one | 19:51 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: that does mean a lot of changes to tox.ini, and that's if that works. most ideas that we have about tox.ini don't work because exactly the wrong set of things are available to the jenkins env. | 19:52 |
| jeblair | clarkb: do you mean as an extra command= step? | 19:53 |
| clarkb | jeblair: yes that runs before the other commands | 19:53 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: that require a special jenkins section, and we wanted to avoid that | 19:54 |
| jeblair | clarkb: (jenkins should run what devs run) | 19:54 |
| clarkb | ++ | 19:54 |
| jeblair | at any rate, i'd love more ideas. that change still feels way too complicated to me. | 19:55 |
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| fungi | though it's worth noting that there are unit test sets which won't work if you don't use our pypi mirror at all | 19:55 |
| jeblair | mordred: you should take a look at it too. | 19:55 |
| fungi | as i discovered troubleshooting test breakage for nova essex | 19:55 |
| mordred | jeblair: was just reading it | 19:55 |
| mordred | btw - pypi upstream is moving away from external links | 19:56 |
| jeblair | fungi: yeah, eventually we should address purging things from the mirror. | 19:56 |
| jeblair | mordred: that's brilliant! | 19:56 |
| mordred | and hpcloud may be giving them a swift/cdn account into which to put package files | 19:56 |
| * fungi is very happy about the upstream pypi changes discussed on catalog-sig | 19:56 | |
| fungi | mordred: i thought they had piped up saying they had no shortage of storage and had already settled on their cdn of choice and shut up already? | 19:57 |
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| jeblair | at any rate, i think next steps are to merge some version of the changes i proposed or equivalent | 19:57 |
| jeblair | and then to change the mirror script to only look at openstack/requirements | 19:57 |
| mordred | fungi: oh yeah? great. | 19:58 |
| jeblair | and then we work on how to use openstack/requirements. | 19:58 |
| mordred | I had a private message from a person about getting an account, but they may have gotten it sorted | 19:58 |
| jeblair | mordred: is there an openstack/requirements summit session? | 19:58 |
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| clarkb | that remidns me I need to add a logs session /me is really going to do that today | 19:59 |
| fungi | mordred: the discussions around storage and cdn needs were being had by people who didn't actually manage pypi, and the one who does eventually chimed in and said he has it sorted. maybe it's hp but the names thrown around didn't seem familiar | 19:59 |
| jeblair | #action clarkb register logs summit session | 19:59 |
| mordred | k. great | 19:59 |
| jeblair | yes, there is a requirements session. | 20:00 |
| jeblair | i think that's it? | 20:00 |
| * olaph waves bye | 20:00 | |
| fungi | bye olaph | 20:00 |
| jeblair | thanks! | 20:00 |
| pleia2 | I should be good to talk about baremetal stuff soon | 20:01 |
| jeblair | #endmeeting | 20:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 5 20:01:02 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2013/infra.2013-03-05-19.02.html | 20:01 |
| clarkb | I guess so. ttx is probably ready to do his thing | 20:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2013/infra.2013-03-05-19.02.txt | 20:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2013/infra.2013-03-05-19.02.log.html | 20:01 |
| jeblair | pleia2: cool, add it to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting when you're ready | 20:01 |
| pleia2 | jeblair: will do | 20:01 |
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| ttx | markmc, heckj, notmyname, bcwaldon, jgriffith, vishy, gabrielhurley, danwent: around ? | 21:00 |
| markmc | yep | 21:00 |
| danwent | o/ | 21:00 |
| notmyname | here | 21:00 |
| gabrielhurley | \o | 21:00 |
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| heckj | o/ | 21:01 |
| bcwaldon | hello | 21:01 |
| ttx | missing vishy and jgriffith, let's start | 21:01 |
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| ttx | #startmeeting project | 21:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 5 21:02:12 2013 UTC. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: project)" | 21:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'project' | 21:02 |
| ttx | Agenda @ http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/ProjectMeeting | 21:02 |
| ttx | #topic General announcements | 21:02 |
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| ttx | PTL self-nominations are under way, they end this Thursday at 23:59 PST. | 21:02 |
| ttx | We still have no candidate for Swift, Horizon and Cinder ! | 21:02 |
| ttx | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PTL_Elections_Spring_2013 | 21:02 |
| ttx | markmc, mordred, annegentle, sdague/davidkranz/jaypipes: Updates from Stable/CI/QA/Docs teams ? | 21:03 |
| annegentle | sure | 21:03 |
| ttx | annegentle: I heard you wrote a book. | 21:03 |
| markmc | heh | 21:03 |
| annegentle | Presenting the OpenStack Operations Guide: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/21791/ | 21:03 |
| annegentle | ha | 21:03 |
| markmc | awesome | 21:03 |
| annegentle | #link http://docs.openstack.org/ops/ | 21:03 |
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| mordred | ttx: CI has made improvements in the PyPI mirror | 21:03 |
| ttx | yes, that review looks unrelated | 21:03 |
| ttx | mordred: you confirm we should not pin anything as part of the release process ? | 21:04 |
| mordred | and we're getting closer to closing things down so that we only use that | 21:04 |
| annegentle | yeah I'm going through the review backlog that was created with a week focus elsewhere :) | 21:04 |
| markmc | nothing to report on stable front - 2012.2.4 still scheduled for 2013-04-11 | 21:04 |
| jgriffith | ttx: gimmie an hour :) | 21:04 |
| mordred | ttx: I cannot confirm that ... there is ongoing debate from people on whether they want that or not | 21:04 |
| rmk | annegentle: I was reading the book and its a great start. Noticed a few points which weren't necessary anymore, such as the need to manually reconnect volumes after a hypervisor reboot | 21:04 |
| markmc | mordred, ttx, I've got some conclusions I want to post tonight | 21:05 |
| rmk | annegentle: Standard doc bug process? | 21:05 |
| ttx | markmc: cool | 21:05 |
| markmc | mordred, ttx, summary: we should cap, not pin | 21:05 |
| annegentle | rmk: yup | 21:05 |
| ttx | #action markmc to post conclusions on version pinning vs. release process | 21:05 |
| mordred | markmc: I probably agree with you - but I also think there is some additional testing we need to do to support capping | 21:05 |
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| annegentle | rmk: you can also edit it yourself with a login | 21:05 |
| mordred | also - openstack/requirements | 21:05 |
| rmk | annegentle: Even better | 21:05 |
| markmc | mordred, oh, absolutely | 21:06 |
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| annegentle | rmk: but bugs are nice to get a sense of what was changed | 21:06 |
| ttx | ok, unless anyone has anything more, we should switch to per-project updates | 21:06 |
| mordred | markmc: the oslo-config version and name change _is_ going through, right? | 21:06 |
| markmc | that would be the next topic | 21:06 |
| ttx | #topic Oslo status | 21:06 |
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| markmc | heh | 21:06 |
| ttx | markmc: be my guest | 21:07 |
| Vek | heh | 21:07 |
| markmc | yeah, I'm thinking we should pull the trigger on it | 21:07 |
| markmc | the versioning change definitely makes sense | 21:07 |
| ttx | version change +1, name change +0 | 21:07 |
| markmc | even if ttx gets to say "I told you so" | 21:07 |
| Vek | heh | 21:07 |
| * ttx always gets to say "I told you so" | 21:07 | |
| markmc | I'm +0 on the name change too, but there was definitely better arguments for olso.config vs oslo-config | 21:08 |
| mordred | version change +, name change +0 | 21:08 |
| mordred | +1 | 21:08 |
| markmc | I could see period-separated becoming the convention as more namespace packages start appearing | 21:08 |
| mordred | version change | 21:08 |
| mordred | dammit | 21:08 |
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| Vek | version change +1, name change 0 | 21:08 |
| ttx | markmc: what's the motivation behind renaming ? | 21:08 |
| heckj | markmc: yeah, and I think there'll be more coming as we move forward | 21:08 |
| mordred | ttx: to rename now to get in front of the ball while we're still in pre-release | 21:09 |
| markmc | ttx, that upstream python folks are saying it's more conventional for namespace packages | 21:09 |
| heckj | I don't care super-much, but it makes it a bit more self-consistent down the road | 21:09 |
| markmc | and we're going to have a family of libraries | 21:09 |
| markmc | so if we stick with hyphen-separated now | 21:09 |
| mordred | yah. /me is working on two right now | 21:09 |
| markmc | they'll all be that way | 21:09 |
| ttx | so more alignment, at the cost of forcing distros to rename | 21:09 |
| mordred | yes | 21:09 |
| markmc | forcing debian to rename | 21:10 |
| markmc | ubuntu already did, which was dumb | 21:10 |
| mordred | it doesn't force the distros to rename | 21:10 |
| markmc | but they get to win :) | 21:10 |
| mordred | the distros can choose to rename | 21:10 |
| markmc | Fedora ignores the thing and just always uses hyphen-separated | 21:10 |
| mordred | if they want to. nothing is tying them to their package name matching the upstream package name | 21:10 |
| markmc | mordred, indeed | 21:10 |
| ttx | mordred: that's an interesting point | 21:10 |
| Vek | markmc: sometimes Fedora doesn't even use a python- prefix; there are lots of "pyfoo" packages, too. | 21:11 |
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| mordred | yup | 21:11 |
| ttx | markmc: you should write up something summarizing what you're about to do(if you haven't already) | 21:11 |
| soren | Right, policy recommends, but doesn't require that you follow upstream. | 21:11 |
| markmc | Vek, not new packages anymore, better guidelines these days | 21:11 |
| soren | In Debian/Ubuntu. | 21:11 |
| markmc | ttx, it's on the list | 21:11 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/oslo/+milestone/grizzly-rc1 | 21:11 |
| ttx | markmc: Looks like your exception was implemented (advanced-matchmaking), so we are left with bugfixes ? | 21:11 |
| Vek | markmc: Sure, but I'm just pointing out that the historical packages are still there. | 21:11 |
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| markmc | ttx, yep, just bugs ... and I don't know of anything super-urgent | 21:12 |
| markmc | ttx, will compile a list of nice-to-haves though | 21:12 |
| ttx | In the Oslo case, I think RC1 should be declared early, so that we can trigger the last updates for consuming projects before /their/ RC1 | 21:12 |
| markmc | ok, makes sense | 21:12 |
| ttx | Looking at the bugfix list, you only have one targeted... | 21:12 |
| ttx | Does it accurately reflect the current state of RC1 blockers ? | 21:12 |
| markmc | I don't know of any blockers | 21:13 |
| markmc | there's a bunch targeted, but all fixed | 21:13 |
| ttx | I see bug 1129587 is rated critical but not targeted? | 21:13 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1129587 in oslo "oslo.config doesn't install oslo package's __init__.py" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1129587 | 21:13 |
| ttx | oh, fixed now | 21:13 |
| markmc | yeah, tidied that up just before | 21:14 |
| ttx | 9 untargeted "high" bugs and 11 untriaged, yeah, doing another pass could help | 21:14 |
| ttx | Anything else on the oslo topic ? | 21:14 |
| markmc | nope, sorry for taking up so much time on the renaming | 21:14 |
| ttx | sounds like an important topic to me :) | 21:14 |
| ttx | #topic Keystone status | 21:14 |
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| ttx | heckj: o/ | 21:14 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/grizzly-rc1 | 21:15 |
| * ayoung lurks, too | 21:15 | |
| heckj | ola | 21:15 |
| ttx | The 2 FFEs are still in progress afaict | 21:15 |
| ttx | trusts: looks like this is close -- any chance you can get it merged today ? | 21:15 |
| heckj | yep- extended back and forth in code reviews. | 21:15 |
| ayoung | ttx, just zuul issues now | 21:15 |
| dolphm | heckj: update-- it's pending gating now | 21:15 |
| ttx | ayoung: cool | 21:15 |
| ttx | pluggable-identity-authentication-handlers: what's the status ? | 21:16 |
| ttx | The only linked review (https://review.openstack.org/22307) sounds rather peripheral | 21:16 |
| heckj | ttx: don't have it off the top and didn't check in earlier today, I"ll have to find out and get back to you | 21:17 |
| ttx | gyee: if you have an update, please interrupt us :) | 21:17 |
| heckj | :-) | 21:17 |
| ttx | You've 15 bugs in the RC1 buglist. Is it a complete set of blockers ? | 21:17 |
| heckj | Our focus has been entirely on trusts for reviews, but the pluggable authn wasn't that far downt he list | 21:18 |
| ayoung | dolphm, is pluggable-identity-authentication-handlers any different from the auth methods? | 21:18 |
| heckj | ttx: based on what we know now - yes, although I expect more to pop up as we go through the testing and verification processes | 21:18 |
| dolphm | ayoung: a bit -- it involves the plugin interface that people will be implementing | 21:18 |
| ttx | You've 11 other "high" bugs to consider, as well as 49 untriaged bugs | 21:18 |
| heckj | ttx: we'll get on triaging those bugs | 21:19 |
| ttx | #action ttx/heckj/gyee to get status on pluggable-identity-authentication-handlers to see if the FFe should be extended | 21:19 |
| gyee | pluggable auth is mostly there | 21:19 |
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| heckj | ttx: I expect we'll have it wrapped one way or the other tomorrow. | 21:19 |
| heckj | ttx: but will explicitly let you know | 21:19 |
| ttx | gyee: already merged but the doc thing at https://review.openstack.org/22307 ? | 21:19 |
| ttx | gyee: would be great if you could formally complete it today | 21:20 |
| gyee | ttx, that's external auth | 21:20 |
| gyee | pluggable auth is different | 21:20 |
| ttx | confusing linking due to topic branches | 21:20 |
| ttx | gyee: what's missing in pluggable-identity-authentication-handlers ? | 21:21 |
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| gyee | nothing, dolphm want some enhancements | 21:21 |
| gyee | but I think it should be considered done | 21:21 |
| gyee | enhancements can be done in H | 21:21 |
| ttx | dolphm: would that fly for you ? | 21:21 |
| ayoung | ttx, to be explicit | 21:21 |
| ayoung | there is a set of auth methods that are implemented by code in | 21:22 |
| ayoung | keystone/auth/methods | 21:22 |
| dolphm | ttx: i'd like to have tomorrow to discuss and make a decision on that | 21:22 |
| ayoung | side note, termie hates the name | 21:22 |
| ttx | dolphm: ok | 21:22 |
| ttx | #action dolphm/heckj/ayoung to make a final decision on pluggable-identity-authentication-handlers completion by tomorrow | 21:23 |
| ttx | Anything more about Keystone ? | 21:23 |
| heckj | looking forward to the elections! | 21:23 |
| ttx | hehe | 21:23 |
| ttx | #topic Swift status | 21:23 |
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| notmyname | hi | 21:23 |
| ttx | notmyname: o/ | 21:23 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/swift/+milestone/1.8.0 | 21:23 |
| notmyname | we're finishing up the last pieces for 1.8 this week and next week | 21:24 |
| notmyname | if possible, we'll start on QA, but that may have to extend into the RC time before 4/4 | 21:24 |
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| ttx | Is "Multi region replication" still on your map ? | 21:24 |
| ttx | It's marked not started and I didn't see any review mentioned recently | 21:24 |
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| notmyname | yes. check the dependency graph. actually, everything has been done for it except for the region tier (which is in progress) | 21:25 |
| notmyname | that's actually the headline feature of 1.8 :-) | 21:25 |
| ttx | notmyname: hehe, great | 21:25 |
| ttx | notmyname: don't forget to self-nominate for the PTL election, or encourage a successor :) | 21:25 |
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| ttx | Anything more on Swift ? | 21:25 |
| notmyname | not from me | 21:26 |
| notmyname | questions? | 21:26 |
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| ttx | #topic Glance status | 21:26 |
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| ttx | bcwaldon: o/ | 21:26 |
| bcwaldon | good afternoon | 21:26 |
| ttx | notmyname: thanks! | 21:26 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/glance/+milestone/grizzly-rc1 | 21:26 |
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| bcwaldon | big change this week is that I bumped multiple-image-locations | 21:27 |
| bcwaldon | I don't want to slam it in this late in the cycle | 21:27 |
| ttx | yeah, that's what I was trying to figure out | 21:27 |
| ttx | recent removal ;) | 21:27 |
| bcwaldon | 90% of the feature is done, but the important change left is in the v2 API | 21:27 |
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| ttx | bcwaldon: agreed | 21:27 |
| bcwaldon | since we designed the api to depend on JSON schema, we can actually release the feature immediately in Havana without api changes | 21:27 |
| ttx | bcwaldon: that leaves glance-api-v2-image-sharing still under work | 21:27 |
| bcwaldon | yep - there are two reviews left to land | 21:28 |
| bcwaldon | those will close the featuer out | 21:28 |
| bcwaldon | we need to write the docs for the API spec as well | 21:28 |
| ttx | bcwaldon: ETA for landing ? | 21:28 |
| bcwaldon | today/tomorrow | 21:28 |
| ttx | ok | 21:28 |
| ttx | 15 bugs on the RC1 buglist at this point | 21:28 |
| bcwaldon | making 'good' progress on the bugs | 21:29 |
| ttx | All critical and most high bugs targeted, only 2 untriaged -- looks very good | 21:29 |
| ttx | Is it a complete list of your RC1 blockers ? | 21:29 |
| bcwaldon | markwash and I have kept everything well-triaged over the past week or two | 21:29 |
| bcwaldon | as far as I know, yes | 21:29 |
| ttx | Looks like you just need some assignees to take them | 21:29 |
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| ttx | Anything more on Glance ? | 21:29 |
| bcwaldon | yep | 21:29 |
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| bcwaldon | I'm good | 21:30 |
| ttx | jgriffith: around now ? | 21:30 |
| bcwaldon | 'yep' to needing assignees | 21:30 |
| jgriffith | that's me | 21:30 |
| jgriffith | :) | 21:30 |
| jgriffith | sorry about that | 21:30 |
| ttx | #topic Cinder status | 21:30 |
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| ttx | jgriffith: hi! | 21:30 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/cinder/+milestone/grizzly-rc1 | 21:30 |
| jgriffith | afternoon | 21:30 |
| ttx | No FFEs, 6 bugs on the RC1 list | 21:30 |
| ttx | Are those the only release blockers, or do you still need to triage the open bugs ? | 21:30 |
| jgriffith | I took a quick look a fewminutes ago and I think this is about it | 21:31 |
| ttx | OK, looks like you're in good shape. | 21:31 |
| jgriffith | I'd like til next week | 21:31 |
| jgriffith | ie Monday | 21:31 |
| ttx | sure. I'd expect the first RC1 to start appearing next week | 21:31 |
| jgriffith | Yeah, depending on what shows up the next few days | 21:31 |
| jgriffith | cool... thanks | 21:31 |
| ttx | with some late ones in two/three weeks max | 21:31 |
| ttx | jgriffith: if you want to stay Cinder PTL, you should probably self-nominate very soon | 21:32 |
| ttx | Anything more in Cinder ? | 21:32 |
| ttx | vishy: around now ? | 21:32 |
| Vek | ttx: Have you skipped quantum? | 21:32 |
| danwent | ttx: anything to not have to talk to me, huh? :P | 21:32 |
| ttx | oops | 21:32 |
| ttx | #topic Quantum status | 21:32 |
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| danwent | haha | 21:32 |
| ttx | danwent: hi! | 21:32 |
| danwent | hi | 21:32 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/quantum/+milestone/grizzly-rc1 | 21:32 |
| danwent | summary, we're in pretty good shape | 21:33 |
| danwent | both FFEs are in | 21:33 |
| ttx | All FFEs are now implemented, I see | 21:33 |
| danwent | comfortable with target date of march 12th for RC1 | 21:33 |
| ttx | Though https://review.openstack.org/23570 is still up | 21:33 |
| danwent | bugs that are in 'high' state are those that we consider potential blockers | 21:33 |
| danwent | that was a review mistakenly tied to the blueprint. | 21:33 |
| ttx | ack, will clean | 21:33 |
| danwent | that change has its own bug, and will be delayed untili havana-1 | 21:34 |
| danwent | bugs that are "medium" are deemed important enough to merge in next week if done, but otherwise will wait for next stable release of grizzly. | 21:34 |
| ttx | No critical, most "high" are already on the list, only 2 untriaged -- good job | 21:34 |
| danwent | markmcclain has being doing a great job triaging | 21:35 |
| danwent | been | 21:35 |
| * ttx isn't sure he wants multiple markmcs as ptls | 21:35 | |
| danwent | haha | 21:35 |
| danwent | yeah, pretty confusing | 21:35 |
| ttx | sounds like a tab completion nightmare | 21:35 |
| ttx | Anything else on Quantum ? | 21:35 |
| danwent | nothing from me | 21:35 |
| ttx | vishy: still not around ? | 21:36 |
| vishy | i'm here | 21:36 |
| ttx | gabrielhurley: around ? | 21:36 |
| danwent | btw, i like the idea of making sure there is overlapp time when nova + quantum can sync at summit | 21:36 |
| * russellb can sub | 21:36 | |
| vishy | sorry was afk | 21:36 |
| gabrielhurley | ttx hi | 21:36 |
| ttx | russellb: not yet :P | 21:36 |
| ttx | #topic Nova status | 21:36 |
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| ttx | vishy: o/ | 21:36 |
| vishy | hi | 21:36 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/grizzly-rc1 | 21:36 |
| ttx | only backportable-db-migrations left | 21:37 |
| ttx | Could we have a blocked review up for backportable-db-migrations ? | 21:37 |
| ttx | So that it's just a matter of approving it when we're confident we won't need another one ? | 21:37 |
| vishy | a blocked review? | 21:37 |
| vishy | sdague: ^^ | 21:37 |
| ttx | a review with a -2 to "not merge it yet" | 21:38 |
| vishy | I"m not sure how many more there are | 21:38 |
| sdague | vishy: how many migrations in the queue? | 21:38 |
| vishy | oh i'm srorry | 21:38 |
| sdague | ttx, vishy: this was just to create a dozen blank migrations right? | 21:39 |
| vishy | i got it confused with the other review | 21:39 |
| ttx | could we push a set and just use some of them if they happen to be needed ? I suppose we don't expect any more at this point ? | 21:39 |
| vishy | yeah I can make a blocked review for that | 21:39 |
| vishy | :) | 21:39 |
| vishy | i will do that today | 21:39 |
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| ttx | On the exceptions list, there was mathrock's suggestion of "fixing" fixed_range | 21:39 |
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| ttx | I've mixed feelings about that. Would have been perfectly fine a few weeks ago... | 21:39 |
| ttx | vishy: thoughts ? | 21:39 |
| vishy | the fix is pretty darn small but I haven't decided whether it is better in g or h | 21:40 |
| ttx | It's reasonably contained but touches config options meaning... I think we have lived with it until now and the timing is a bit bad | 21:40 |
| vishy | I'm thinking that putting it in G without changing the default config option might be ok | 21:40 |
| ttx | vishy: your call | 21:41 |
| vishy | so users would have to turn it on manually | 21:41 |
| ttx | but soon:) | 21:41 |
| ttx | If it's not in this week, it's out. | 21:41 |
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| ttx | vishy: 28 bugs on the RC1 blockers buglist. How complete is that ? | 21:42 |
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| ttx | I see one untargeted critical (bug 1101147), 29 high | 21:42 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1101147 in nova ""Instance didn't become active" in Devstack Gate Exercises" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1101147 | 21:42 |
| ttx | Only 3 untriaged -- pretty nice achievement for Nova | 21:42 |
| vishy | Those are all the bugs i targetted going through new bugs | 21:42 |
| vishy | there may be others in previously triaged | 21:42 |
| vishy | that haven't gotten targetted | 21:42 |
| vishy | I'm not sure that should be marked critical | 21:43 |
| ttx | vishy: feel free to downgrade. I don't like critical bugs :) | 21:43 |
| sdague | vishy: after all the gate resets I thought there was a push to turn common gate reset bugs critical | 21:43 |
| sdague | so they actually got looked at | 21:43 |
| ttx | vishy: so you plan to do another pass on older bugs to add them to the RC1 blockers list ? | 21:43 |
| vishy | sdague: well there isn't really a clear way to figure out what is going wrong there | 21:44 |
| vishy | since it is intermittent | 21:44 |
| vishy | i targetted and put it down to High | 21:44 |
| ttx | vishy: so you plan to do another pass on older bugs to add them to the RC1 blockers list ? | 21:45 |
| vishy | yes that is the plan | 21:46 |
| ttx | cool | 21:46 |
| ttx | Any question on Nova ? | 21:46 |
| ttx | (getting a good base list and staying on top of new bugs is the way to a successful RC !) | 21:46 |
| ttx | #topic Horizon status | 21:46 |
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| ttx | gabrielhurley: hey | 21:47 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/grizzly-rc1 | 21:47 |
| gabrielhurley | hi again | 21:48 |
| ttx | One FFe still open: quantum-lbaas | 21:48 |
| ttx | How far is it ? | 21:48 |
| gabrielhurley | was waiting to see what Dan said during the quantum meeting. Sounds like things are good so this is ready to merge, I do believe. | 21:48 |
| gabrielhurley | I'll give it one final review and then merge it up. | 21:48 |
| ttx | gabrielhurley: awesome | 21:48 |
| ttx | Looks like we have a good handle on our FFEs at this point | 21:49 |
| gabrielhurley | always a good thing | 21:49 |
| ttx | On the bug list, only 8 blockers left. Is that a full list of your blockers, or do you still need to triage a bit ? | 21:49 |
| gabrielhurley | nope, triage is basically all set | 21:49 |
| ttx | great, we seem to be in good shape | 21:49 |
| ttx | gabrielhurley: ready for another PTL run ? If yes, you should nominate yourself :) | 21:49 |
| gabrielhurley | I did during the meeting ;-) | 21:49 |
| ttx | hah! | 21:49 |
| * gabrielhurley loves making ttx refresh pages | 21:49 | |
| ttx | I can't read ML and do meeting at the same time. | 21:49 |
| ttx | Anything more on Horizon ? | 21:49 |
| gabrielhurley | not offhand | 21:50 |
| ttx | #topic Incubated-in-Grizzly/Integarted-in-Havana projects | 21:50 |
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| ttx | Anyone from Heat or Ceilometer ? | 21:50 |
| sdake_ | hi | 21:50 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/heat/+milestone/grizzly-rc1 | 21:50 |
| sdake_ | in good shape | 21:51 |
| ttx | 15 bugs on your buglist -- is that the complete set of release blockers from your perspective ? | 21:51 |
| sdake_ | that we know about ;) | 21:51 |
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| sdake_ | but team working hard to test manually on top of our other test suites | 21:51 |
| ttx | yeah, releasing is an act of chicken and egg anyway | 21:52 |
| ttx | Anyone from the Ceilo crowd ? nijaba, eoghan, jd__ ? | 21:52 |
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| sdake_ | just to clarify, we will release rc1 on 14th? | 21:52 |
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| ttx | sdake: no, you release RC1 when your buglist is empty | 21:53 |
| sdake_ | sounds good | 21:53 |
| sdake_ | should be before 14th | 21:53 |
| ttx | sometimes between now and ~March 20 | 21:53 |
| sdake_ | thanks | 21:53 |
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| ttx | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseCycle | 21:53 |
| ttx | Any other question before we close the meeting ? | 21:54 |
| ttx | Alright, all back to bugfixing and making Grizzly an awesome release! | 21:55 |
| ttx | #endmeeting | 21:55 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 5 21:55:38 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:55 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/project/2013/project.2013-03-05-21.02.html | 21:55 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/project/2013/project.2013-03-05-21.02.txt | 21:55 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/project/2013/project.2013-03-05-21.02.log.html | 21:55 |
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| ttx | Thanks everyone! | 21:55 |
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| gabrielhurley | Okay, Horizon meeting | 22:02 |
| gabrielhurley | #startmeeting horizon | 22:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 5 22:02:19 2013 UTC. The chair is gabrielhurley. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' | 22:02 |
| gabrielhurley | #topic General | 22:02 |
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| gabrielhurley | Hi everyone! | 22:02 |
| gabrielhurley | Things are going very well with the RC | 22:02 |
| gabrielhurley | I triaged the bugs this morning and there wasn't anything unexpected. | 22:03 |
| gabrielhurley | What's on the current list is looking good. | 22:03 |
| gabrielhurley | #topic Blueprints and Bugs | 22:03 |
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| gabrielhurley | the one remaining blueprint is cleared for merging, so I'm gonna give that a final review and merge it unless anyone objects. | 22:03 |
| gabrielhurley | I would like to talk about this bug for a moment: https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1060426 | 22:04 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1060426 in horizon "Login screen doesn't show reason for being logged out" [High,Confirmed] | 22:04 |
| gabrielhurley | This bug leads to more bug reports than anything else in Horizon | 22:04 |
| gabrielhurley | It confuses people constantly | 22:04 |
| gabrielhurley | And what I'm wondering is this: | 22:04 |
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| gabrielhurley | is it better to 1) show the "reason" (e.g. "Unauthorized, please try logging in again."). Or is it better to *not* log people out and let them see the unauthorized messages in the dashboard for the API requests that can't be completed. | 22:05 |
| gabrielhurley | the latter being option 2, since I fail at numbering. | 22:05 |
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| gabrielhurley | From a faux-security perspective it feels more right to log them out, but I think the better UX is to let them be logged in and unable to act... | 22:06 |
| gabrielhurley | thoughts? | 22:06 |
| kspear | yeah, i was thinking about this when fixing another bug | 22:06 |
| jpich | A clear error message in the dashboard would make more sense IMO | 22:06 |
| jpich | Or be more user friendly | 22:06 |
| kspear | i think a dashboard message plus a link to logout/login would be better | 22:06 |
| gabrielhurley | As a caveat, fixing this by way of *not* logging them out is a lot easier to implement. | 22:06 |
| gabrielhurley | Cool. I think that's the direction I'll take it then. | 22:07 |
| kspear | is lin-hua's comment there correct? | 22:07 |
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| vkmc | I think that an error message will be great too | 22:07 |
| kspear | i have seen permission denied messages on the login page before | 22:07 |
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| gabrielhurley | that should be investigated as a related (simple) fix | 22:07 |
| gabrielhurley | which I'll do. since the ticket is assigned to me. | 22:08 |
| gabrielhurley | lol. | 22:08 |
| kspear | haha | 22:08 |
| gabrielhurley | any other bugs folks want to talk about? | 22:08 |
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| kspear | i think the comment is saying it's already fixed | 22:08 |
| gabrielhurley | Oh, just as a general note: I'm planning on doing a complete Django 1.5 compatibility pass as soon as the H cycle starts. | 22:09 |
| kspear | but the change you suggested would be better | 22:09 |
| kspear | i just have | 22:10 |
| kspear | https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1072848 | 22:10 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1072848 in horizon "Switching projects sends user "home" inappropriately" [Low,Confirmed] | 22:11 |
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| kspear | i made some changes in openstack_auth to support a fix | 22:11 |
| kspear | is it possible to cut a 1.0.7 release of that? | 22:11 |
| gabrielhurley | oh, yes | 22:14 |
| gabrielhurley | will do | 22:14 |
| kspear | great | 22:15 |
| gabrielhurley | #topic open discussion | 22:15 |
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| kspear | the horizon fix is one line | 22:15 |
| gabrielhurley | sweet | 22:15 |
| vkmc | gabrielhurley, jogo suggested to add tenant deletion on Keystone directly. How this impact my current work on the blueprint? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/tenant-deletion | 22:15 |
| gabrielhurley | hard to say | 22:15 |
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| gabrielhurley | The Horizon BP is basically a stop-gap for keystone doing something about it | 22:16 |
| gabrielhurley | and getting that into keystone may be a bit controversial | 22:16 |
| gabrielhurley | so I'd proceed as planned but stay in the loop on that issue | 22:16 |
| vkmc | gabrielhurley, Yeah I agree... | 22:17 |
| jpich | Is there an existing bug or blueprint in keystone for this? | 22:17 |
| vkmc | gabrielhurley, Currently I'm having some blockers, but overall progress is good | 22:17 |
| gabrielhurley | vkmc: cool. do you know if there's a keystone BP for it? I'm not aware of one, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. | 22:18 |
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| dolphm | gabrielhurley: vkmc: bug 1129037 is one, but it's sort of a dupe... i swear we had another | 22:18 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1129037 in keystone "keystone tenant-delete" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1129037 | 22:18 |
| gabrielhurley | yeah. there oughta be one if there isn't | 22:19 |
| gabrielhurley | then we could link the horizon and keysotne BPs | 22:19 |
| vkmc | gabrielhurley, Saw the one shared by dolphm | 22:19 |
| vkmc | dolphm, Thanks | 22:19 |
| gabrielhurley | kspear: openstack_auth 1.0.7 is published to PyPI | 22:20 |
| dolphm | last time it was discussed it was determined to be an orchestration issue, although there's probably some way for keystone to help with that, such as publishing a list of deleted projects, etc | 22:21 |
| kspear | gabrielhurley: that was quick! thanks | 22:21 |
| gabrielhurley | yeah. that's why I say that it's gonna be a while to get it into keystone | 22:21 |
| gabrielhurley | so I think Horizon should go ahead with it | 22:21 |
| gabrielhurley | s/it/our plan | 22:21 |
| gabrielhurley | vkmc: make sense? | 22:22 |
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| vkmc | gabrielhurley, It does, yeah | 22:22 |
| vkmc | gabrielhurley, And it's a relief to hear that :) | 22:23 |
| gabrielhurley | cool | 22:23 |
| gabrielhurley | other topics from folks? | 22:23 |
| kspear | do we have a date for rc1? | 22:23 |
| gabrielhurley | I heard March 12th | 22:25 |
| dolphm | gabrielhurley: sorry, accidentally replied off list so i'm hitting you twice | 22:25 |
| gabrielhurley | so, next week, roughly | 22:25 |
| gabrielhurley | dolphm: no worries | 22:25 |
| kspear | good to know | 22:26 |
| gabrielhurley | kspear: yup. good question. | 22:26 |
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| gabrielhurley | cool. with that I think we'll call it a day. | 22:28 |
| gabrielhurley | Great job everyone, same time next week! | 22:28 |
| gabrielhurley | #endmeeting | 22:28 |
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| vkmc | Cool, thanks! o/ | 22:29 |
| kspear | thanks, have a good week everyone | 22:29 |
| jpich | Thanks, likewise | 22:30 |
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