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| fifieldt | doc team meeting in 3 minutes :) | 12:57 |
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| fifieldt | hello EmilienM | 12:58 |
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| fifieldt | hello annegentle_ | 12:59 |
| annegentle_ | hi! | 12:59 |
| fifieldt | how are you? | 12:59 |
| annegentle_ | good, you? It's cold here, like 22 F overnight which we hardly ever see. BR | 12:59 |
| annegentle_ | My home office is not super well insulated let's just say :) | 13:00 |
| fifieldt | ouch, that's a chilly morning | 13:00 |
| EmilienM | fifieldt: pong | 13:00 |
| annegentle_ | EmilienM: welcome! | 13:00 |
| EmilienM | annegentle_: hey | 13:00 |
| annegentle_ | Ok, shall we get started? | 13:00 |
| fifieldt | are we waiting for anyone in particular? | 13:01 |
| EmilienM | annegentle_: btw, I'm working on the basic install, I'll push it this week, with more and more stuffs | 13:01 |
| fifieldt | Lorin, Razique, Daisy? | 13:01 |
| EmilienM | related to Quantum specially | 13:01 |
| annegentle_ | fifieldt: no Daisy and no David cramer today, so maybe just look out for koolhead17, Lorin, Razique? | 13:01 |
| annegentle_ | EmilienM: fantastic. | 13:02 |
| annegentle_ | #startmeeting DocWebTeam | 13:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 11 13:02:19 2012 UTC. The chair is annegentle_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: DocWebTeam)" | 13:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'docwebteam' | 13:02 |
| annegentle_ | #link http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/DocTeamMeeting | 13:02 |
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| annegentle_ | I probably should have looked up the last name for this meeting but oh well | 13:03 |
| annegentle_ | welcome koolhead17 | 13:03 |
| annegentle_ | Ok, first item, actions from last meeting | 13:03 |
| koolhead17 | hi annegentle_ fifieldt | 13:03 |
| fifieldt | argh! | 13:03 |
| annegentle_ | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/doc_web/2012/doc_web.2012-11-13-13.06.html | 13:04 |
| * annegentle_ looks | 13:04 | |
| annegentle_ | ACTION: Anne to ask CI team if there's notification capability with a patch with DocImpact actually merges | 13:04 |
| annegentle_ | Done, basically no. :) | 13:04 |
| annegentle_ | I have been very specific on notifications on review.openstack.org Settings page and that helps me track API changes. But not code changes. | 13:04 |
| annegentle_ | fifieldt: oh now I see why "argh!" :) | 13:05 |
| annegentle_ | ACTION: fifieldt to send an followup email to the dev list thanking them for their response to the ":use docimpact" email | 13:05 |
| fifieldt | yes, unfortunately I didn't do this | 13:05 |
| annegentle_ | fifieldt: you can do it this week, we're still seeing good response | 13:05 |
| fifieldt | the good news is, it's still able to be done | 13:05 |
| fifieldt | yes miss | 13:05 |
| annegentle_ | ACTION: Anne to send summary report of Google Analytics info to openstack-doc mailing list | 13:05 |
| annegentle_ | Done. #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-docs/2012-November/000304.html | 13:06 |
| annegentle_ | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-docs/2012-November/000304.html | 13:06 |
| annegentle_ | Der! | 13:06 |
| annegentle_ | old paste :) | 13:06 |
| annegentle_ | ACTION: Anne to investigate PDF file naming | 13:06 |
| annegentle_ | Done. I'll report more on that during the Doc Tools portion. | 13:06 |
| fifieldt | cool | 13:07 |
| annegentle_ | ACTION: Anne to send Dan Wendlandt a list of highest priority Quantum doc bugs | 13:07 |
| annegentle_ | Done, Dan and team have been very responsive | 13:07 |
| annegentle_ | ACTION: Anne to link to EmilienM's getting started doc from http://www.openstack.org/software/start/ | 13:07 |
| annegentle_ | Done, right EmilienM -- | 13:07 |
| annegentle_ | and last but not least. | 13:07 |
| annegentle_ | ACTION: Anne to send email to Christian Berendt with proposal for moving forward with SLES OpenSuse install info | 13:07 |
| annegentle_ | Done. This request was well-received, though I should follow up again. | 13:08 |
| fifieldt | ooh, cool | 13:08 |
| annegentle_ | They have an entire guide in German. | 13:08 |
| fifieldt | :O | 13:08 |
| annegentle_ | yeah! | 13:09 |
| fifieldt | awesome | 13:09 |
| annegentle_ | But I've asked them to integrate into the Adv. guide (The Install and Deploy one). | 13:09 |
| fifieldt | sounds good | 13:09 |
| annegentle_ | so that there can be a separate SLES guide (like Ubuntu and RHEL/Centos/Fedora have) | 13:09 |
| annegentle_ | Whew! That's all the Actions. Any questions? | 13:10 |
| annegentle_ | I need to use my IRC nick for Action assignment, I had just used "Anne." | 13:10 |
| annegentle_ | So! Let's switch topics to Doc Bug Squash Day | 13:10 |
| fifieldt | #link http://webnumbr.com/untouched-bugs-in-openstack-manuals- | 13:11 |
| annegentle_ | thanks I was just looking for that fifieldt | 13:11 |
| annegentle_ | I thought I went GREAT, thanks fifieldt for all your hard work | 13:11 |
| annegentle_ | Only bit of follow up is to do a few more back ports I believe to stable/folsom. | 13:12 |
| fifieldt | indeed, I've not been doing well in that department | 13:12 |
| annegentle_ | I'm in training all week this week (annegentle_ learns Python the Hard Way) | 13:12 |
| fifieldt | do we need to go through say, the last month of commits, to check for backportability? | 13:12 |
| annegentle_ | so realistically I won't get to it this week | 13:12 |
| annegentle_ | fifieldt: yes we're nearly caught up but I keep having nagging feelings that it's not all there | 13:12 |
| koolhead17 | annegentle_: fifieldt we need some cleanup as well :P | 13:12 |
| annegentle_ | did anyone else sense that git's automatic merges were adding in spurious end tags? | 13:13 |
| koolhead17 | from the docs and re drawing some of the diagrams/archs | 13:13 |
| annegentle_ | or was that just me? | 13:13 |
| fifieldt | I only noticed that on that commit I commented on | 13:13 |
| fifieldt | it was strange | 13:13 |
| * koolhead17 has not made commit for sometime | 13:13 | |
| fifieldt | I guess that's an action for all - to check out for end tag weirdness ? | 13:14 |
| annegentle_ | fifieldt: we merged in 15+ patches | 13:14 |
| annegentle_ | fifieldt: yeah. I also was trying to ensure any given patch wasn't affecting the same file | 13:15 |
| annegentle_ | koolhead17: get on it man! :) Just kidding. | 13:15 |
| koolhead17 | annegentle_: :D | 13:15 |
| annegentle_ | What should our plans be for Thursday's code bug squash? | 13:15 |
| koolhead17 | was sick for few days. feeling great today | 13:15 |
| annegentle_ | Ideas: Keep an eye out for DocImpact. | 13:15 |
| koolhead17 | will do some bug fix | 13:16 |
| annegentle_ | koolhead17: awesome. I had the worst upper respiratory infection last week but it's clearing now… | 13:16 |
| koolhead17 | nice | 13:16 |
| fifieldt | ouch | 13:16 |
| fifieldt | Well, we could also trawl the dev project's bugs looking for things which can be assisted by docs | 13:17 |
| fifieldt | but that's a lot of work | 13:17 |
| annegentle_ | fifieldt: wow yeah. But a good task for a bug day | 13:17 |
| fifieldt | and there might be more to gain by just fixing our existing bugs | 13:17 |
| annegentle_ | fifieldt: yes absolutely | 13:17 |
| koolhead17 | annegentle_: and api realted changes | 13:17 |
| koolhead17 | and wiki page changes | 13:17 |
| koolhead17 | achges | 13:17 |
| koolhead17 | *changes | 13:18 |
| annegentle_ | koolhead17: that's a good clean up -- wiki. Esp. before the migration | 13:18 |
| annegentle_ | which is the next topic. | 13:18 |
| annegentle_ | and I keep doing /topic but it's not changing the topic? Anyway. | 13:18 |
| koolhead17 | annegentle_: did you like my idea of adding bold "only for A/B/C" release" | 13:18 |
| fifieldt | try #topic | 13:18 |
| fifieldt | rather than /topic | 13:18 |
| koolhead17 | so people using that don`t get confused | 13:18 |
| annegentle_ | #topic wiki migration | 13:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "wiki migration (Meeting topic: DocWebTeam)" | 13:18 | |
| annegentle_ | thanks! fifieldt | 13:19 |
| * fifieldt hat tip | 13:19 | |
| annegentle_ | Just wanted to put it on our agenda in case there are any questions | 13:19 |
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| annegentle_ | I still need to respond to the question about the new contributor page | 13:19 |
| annegentle_ | basically from talking to the CI team, waiting for the DNS switchover is the only likely "wait" period or delay for new contributors | 13:19 |
| koolhead17 | annegentle_: i can work on the wiki page later tonight and add that extra line after going through all the pages about which version of OS it is supported | 13:19 |
| annegentle_ | koolhead17: that would be great. | 13:20 |
| annegentle_ | koolhead17 found that the "Flags" wiki page is for Essex | 13:20 |
| annegentle_ | koolhead17: honestly you could just point it to the Folsom link | 13:20 |
| annegentle_ | Add this code to wiki pages to indicate the page is outdated: <<Include(DeprecatedPage)>> | 13:20 |
| annegentle_ | Since we don't really keep docs on the wiki, I'd prefer to prune more than keep. | 13:21 |
| annegentle_ | I haven't done a wiki clean out for a while, so koolhead17 if you're up for it that would be great | 13:21 |
| koolhead17 | annegentle_: yes i will do that as you suggested in your mail. and do you want me to add extra bold folt with one sence as well | 13:21 |
| fifieldt | awesome | 13:21 |
| koolhead17 | saying limited to a/b/c release | 13:22 |
| koolhead17 | i see some content for bexer release there | 13:22 |
| koolhead17 | :) | 13:22 |
| annegentle_ | koolhead17: see how http://wiki.openstack.org/Documentation just points to other places? That's the ideal to me. | 13:22 |
| fifieldt | eek | 13:22 |
| annegentle_ | koolhead17: yeah :) I found notes from an install fest from 2 years back | 13:22 |
| koolhead17 | annegentle_: :D | 13:22 |
| koolhead17 | so either clean up or add tag along with a warning saying its restricted to pervious version support | 13:23 |
| annegentle_ | Ok, moving along if there's no questions? | 13:23 |
| annegentle_ | koolhead17: yeah with a preference to just CLEAN :) | 13:23 |
| fifieldt | all good | 13:23 |
| annegentle_ | cool | 13:23 |
| annegentle_ | #topic Doc Tools Update | 13:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Doc Tools Update (Meeting topic: DocWebTeam)" | 13:23 | |
| annegentle_ | David Cramer had to get kids to school this morning so I got his report yesterday | 13:24 |
| koolhead17 | annegentle_: cool. let me ping you later tonight with pages which i feel totally outdated | 13:24 |
| koolhead17 | and we can take call on the same then | 13:24 |
| annegentle_ | They work in 3 week sprints, and in this next sprint they are working on automatically generating site map.xml | 13:24 |
| annegentle_ | #info Maven Plugin working on auto-generating sitemap.xml at build time | 13:24 |
| annegentle_ | They're also moving into the OpenStack CI infrastructure | 13:24 |
| annegentle_ | The other area of interest to us is the PDF output file naming. | 13:25 |
| annegentle_ | They're fixing the "bug" that is in 1.6.0 that means we can't use it -- PDF files are named based on date metadata and we don't name our PDF files that way. | 13:25 |
| annegentle_ | we name PDF files using the "release name" variable in the pom.xml. | 13:25 |
| annegentle_ | So we should be good to go | 13:26 |
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| annegentle_ | but not until the release at the end of their 3 week sprint | 13:27 |
| fifieldt | ok | 13:27 |
| annegentle_ | when 1.6.1 comes out, we'll need to do a bunch of pom.xml work | 13:27 |
| annegentle_ | to pull out the "postProcess" parts | 13:27 |
| annegentle_ | since all that'll be automated | 13:27 |
| annegentle_ | I hope to never open a bug again about the PDF link breaking! | 13:27 |
| annegentle_ | and the site map.xml will help a bunch at release time, plus just make our google strength better | 13:28 |
| koolhead17 | annegentle_: yeah :P | 13:28 |
| annegentle_ | better/more accurate | 13:28 |
| annegentle_ | ok snuck in one more agenda item before open discussion | 13:28 |
| fifieldt | brilliant | 13:28 |
| annegentle_ | #topic Outreach Program for Women | 13:28 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Outreach Program for Women (Meeting topic: DocWebTeam)" | 13:28 | |
| annegentle_ | Ok, we've been interviewing candidates and helping them with first patches. | 13:28 |
| fifieldt | oh cool! | 13:28 |
| annegentle_ | Many are interested in coding, but I had a handful of doc candidates and I hope to get one! | 13:28 |
| annegentle_ | I'll let you know if we get one! The selection process ends Dec 11 | 13:29 |
| annegentle_ | er. Today! | 13:29 |
| annegentle_ | : | 13:29 |
| annegentle_ | :) | 13:29 |
| fifieldt | yesterday ! :P | 13:29 |
| koolhead17 | annegentle_: cool | 13:29 |
| annegentle_ | I want to direct her mostly to API doc bugs, but that can change over the course of the internship. | 13:29 |
| koolhead17 | so we will ahve some helping hand | 13:29 |
| annegentle_ | The start period isn't until January. | 13:29 |
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| koolhead17 | grr | 13:30 |
| annegentle_ | koolhead17: yep! And we'll need to help her too - she's starting from zero OpenStack knowledge but already has a patch, it's a requirement of the program. | 13:30 |
| koolhead17 | but if someone is really interested in contributing wont mind starting right away | 13:30 |
| koolhead17 | IMHO | 13:30 |
| annegentle_ | yeah I bet she will actually unless she has school obligations | 13:30 |
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| koolhead17 | annegentle_: cool. | 13:30 |
| annegentle_ | The program is intended for students in the southern hemisphere at this time of year. | 13:30 |
| annegentle_ | so she will be 40 hours a week on OpenStack docs. | 13:31 |
| fifieldt | I am on leave from work from ~today to January 14th ... I might have time to help | 13:31 |
| * annegentle_ does a happy dance | 13:31 | |
| annegentle_ | fifieldt: fabulous!! I'll intro her when I can announce | 13:31 |
| annegentle_ | Ok, good timing, at a half hour! Nice. | 13:31 |
| annegentle_ | #topic Open discussion | 13:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: DocWebTeam)" | 13:31 | |
| fifieldt | ok | 13:31 |
| koolhead17 | fifieldt: awesome :D | 13:32 |
| fifieldt | got more for us Anne? or shall the rabble start pitching in now? :) | 13:32 |
| koolhead17 | :D | 13:32 |
| annegentle_ | sure! | 13:32 |
| annegentle_ | :) That's all I got. | 13:32 |
| fifieldt | so, just throwing out one of the things from the ML | 13:32 |
| fifieldt | Do we want to try and set a Grizzly bug day | 13:32 |
| fifieldt | well in advance | 13:32 |
| fifieldt | so we can all be free-ish | 13:32 |
| koolhead17 | fifieldt: +1 | 13:33 |
| koolhead17 | :D | 13:33 |
| fifieldt | to ensure that when grizzly goes live | 13:33 |
| fifieldt | those listed against it's milestone are in | 13:33 |
| fifieldt | s/those/those bugs | 13:33 |
| koolhead17 | fifieldt: annegentle_ lets find someone who can help us with cleaning the arch diagram and some other stuff | 13:33 |
| annegentle_ | fifieldt: great idea | 13:33 |
| koolhead17 | am not sure in nova-network and nova-volume will b there in grizzly | 13:33 |
| annegentle_ | fifieldt: do you have an idea of how much G1 is undocumented? I haven't really analyzed. | 13:34 |
| fifieldt | well | 13:34 |
| fifieldt | #link https://launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+milestone/grizzly | 13:34 |
| fifieldt | I've been not working on grizzly bugs | 13:34 |
| koolhead17 | some features like nova-cells and also if vendors want we can add there drivers in cinder doc | 13:34 |
| fifieldt | in preference for ones that affect folsom | 13:34 |
| annegentle_ | fifieldt: wow, 32 g1 doc tasks | 13:34 |
| annegentle_ | koolhead17: did nova cells make it in finally? It didn't make G1 | 13:35 |
| koolhead17 | annegentle_: it will to G hopefuuly :P | 13:35 |
| annegentle_ | #info 32 G1 doc tasks recorded, ready for someone to work on | 13:35 |
| * fifieldt is using cells in production :P | 13:35 | |
| annegentle_ | fifieldt: nice :) | 13:35 |
| koolhead17 | fifieldt: :D | 13:35 |
| koolhead17 | fifieldt: so can we add that somewhere to be added in the doc | 13:36 |
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| annegentle_ | I did want to mention that we'll try for an Operators Doc Sprint in Februrary 2014. | 13:36 |
| koolhead17 | and removing many other stuff | 13:36 |
| annegentle_ | eek! 2013! | 13:36 |
| fifieldt | already got a bug lodged koolhead17 | 13:36 |
| fifieldt | tehehe | 13:36 |
| koolhead17 | annegentle_: lets do that. | 13:36 |
| koolhead17 | fifieldt: waoo cool | 13:36 |
| fifieldt | koolhead17, https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1075669 | 13:36 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1075669 in openstack-manuals "grizzly: Support for cells in Compute (nova)" [Undecided,New] | 13:36 |
| annegentle_ | #action annegentle_ to write a proposal to Foundation requesting funding of Doc Sprint in Feb 2013 including Adam Hyde as facilitator | 13:37 |
| annegentle_ | So how can we time a date in advance? Is it right around G2 that we'll want another doc bug sprint? | 13:37 |
| fifieldt | #link http://wiki.openstack.org/GrizzlyReleaseSchedule | 13:38 |
| fifieldt | I think after G3 | 13:38 |
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| annegentle_ | Was a Tuesday a good day of the week? I liked it. | 13:38 |
| fifieldt | because there's a chance things change | 13:38 |
| fifieldt | I've already seen some options that changed names | 13:38 |
| fifieldt | in processing DocIMpacts | 13:38 |
| koolhead17 | fifieldt: yeah correct | 13:39 |
| fifieldt | so we don't want to do it too early, imo | 13:39 |
| annegentle_ | fifieldt: ok, that makes sense then. | 13:39 |
| annegentle_ | fifieldt: it'll run up into that Doc Sprint proposed though, but maybe that's ok | 13:39 |
| annegentle_ | and good timing even | 13:39 |
| koolhead17 | annegentle_: so when are you thinking to have it after G3 | 13:39 |
| annegentle_ | or what about Tues Feb 19, right before G3? | 13:40 |
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| annegentle_ | the proposal for the Doc sprint is Feb 25-29 | 13:40 |
| fifieldt | that could work - | 13:40 |
| annegentle_ | G3 is Feb 28 | 13:40 |
| fifieldt | get a head start on doc bugs | 13:40 |
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| koolhead17 | yes works for me | 13:41 |
| fifieldt | then do the doc sprint | 13:41 |
| annegentle_ | it's tight but gives us good data | 13:41 |
| annegentle_ | cool | 13:41 |
| * annegentle_ needs to get that proposal done! | 13:41 | |
| annegentle_ | Okay, what else is going on? | 13:41 |
| * annegentle_ thinks | 13:41 | |
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| annegentle_ | I'll try to do a doc status report tomorrow for the week | 13:42 |
| annegentle_ | Seriously, great work on the doc bug day. That was fantastic. | 13:42 |
| fifieldt | bugs <100 before end of year? | 13:42 |
| annegentle_ | fifieldt: YES. | 13:42 |
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| fifieldt | how ? :D | 13:42 |
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| annegentle_ | fifieldt: let's see if the Intern can help in Dec… and I'll rally some groups at the Rack. | 13:43 |
| fifieldt | :) | 13:43 |
| koolhead17 | annegentle_: cool | 13:43 |
| annegentle_ | and? Maybe your mailing list post will inspire? | 13:43 |
| fifieldt | hmm, maybe we need another mailing list post for inspiration | 13:43 |
| koolhead17 | annegentle_: which mail? | 13:43 |
| koolhead17 | :P | 13:43 |
| annegentle_ | AT&T wants to contribute more, how can I match doc bugs with a person there? | 13:43 |
| fifieldt | asking for help from those devs in the know | 13:43 |
| fifieldt | what are they interested in? | 13:44 |
| annegentle_ | fifieldt: your note of gratitude for using DocImpact | 13:44 |
| fifieldt | yup | 13:44 |
| annegentle_ | fifieldt: not sure, that's a good starting question. | 13:44 |
| koolhead17 | also here in meetup am expecting some contribution starting to happen soon | 13:44 |
| koolhead17 | :) | 13:44 |
| koolhead17 | met som eenthu folks/kids | 13:44 |
| koolhead17 | *enthu | 13:44 |
| annegentle_ | koolhead17: oh yeah? | 13:44 |
| fifieldt | AT&T: "a developer-centric cloud." The service will be focused on providing developers of cloud apps low-cost entry into AT&T's hosting services, and a choice of public or private access, as well as an option for "bare-metal" provisioning of hardware for developers requiring specific server configurations, and options for cloud storage, network configuration and monitoring. | 13:44 |
| annegentle_ | koolhead17: do we need a better "here's how you get started with docs?" | 13:45 |
| koolhead17 | annegentle_: i will blog one tonight :P | 13:45 |
| annegentle_ | fifieldt: yep, they're operating plenty… Essex I believe. | 13:45 |
| annegentle_ | koolhead17: oh good idea | 13:45 |
| fifieldt | they're involved in the bare metal stuff in grizzly? | 13:45 |
| koolhead17 | and also planning to get the same published in some other blog pages too | 13:45 |
| koolhead17 | fifieldt: it be great if they can help us including that part in our doc | 13:46 |
| fifieldt | aye | 13:46 |
| fifieldt | anyway, we have a wall of work | 13:46 |
| fifieldt | so they can work on their interest :) | 13:46 |
| fifieldt | That's all from me | 13:46 |
| koolhead17 | :P | 13:46 |
| annegentle_ | okay, cool. | 13:47 |
| annegentle_ | I'm good to go -- call it a wrap! | 13:47 |
| annegentle_ | #endmeeting | 13:47 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Dec 11 13:47:24 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:47 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docwebteam/2012/docwebteam.2012-12-11-13.02.html | 13:47 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docwebteam/2012/docwebteam.2012-12-11-13.02.txt | 13:47 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docwebteam/2012/docwebteam.2012-12-11-13.02.log.html | 13:47 |
| annegentle_ | thanks everyone | 13:47 |
| fifieldt | thank you | 13:47 |
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| fifieldt | have a great day :) | 13:48 |
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| primeministerp | #startmeeting hyper-v | 15:58 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 11 15:58:41 2012 UTC. The chair is primeministerp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:58 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 15:58 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'hyper_v' | 15:58 |
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| primeministerp | hmm, my clock is 2 min off | 15:58 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: how's it going | 15:59 |
| primeministerp | going to wait a couple more minutes for everyone to join | 15:59 |
| pnavarro | Hi primeministerp ! | 15:59 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: how's it going | 15:59 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: any progress on the cinder commands not responding | 16:00 |
| pnavarro | i'm doing well, and you? | 16:00 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: a bit tired, we got a dog this weekend | 16:00 |
| pnavarro | a dog ! oufff | 16:00 |
| pnavarro | a new baby | 16:00 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: and I'm coming off a lot of hours last week w/ the cloudbase team | 16:00 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: yes, lucy the daschund | 16:00 |
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| primeministerp | pnavarro: so I saw that alex is going to create an installer for the cinder bits | 16:01 |
| pnavarro | about cinder, I couldn't take a look this evening | 16:01 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: ok | 16:01 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: do we at least know if it's a bug? | 16:01 |
| pnavarro | well, It looks like a bug, but I'm not sure | 16:02 |
| primeministerp | no alex yet | 16:04 |
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| primeministerp | pnavarro: i just pinged tavi | 16:04 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: we made some progress last week | 16:04 |
| primeministerp | we refactored all the puppet bits I started | 16:05 |
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| primeministerp | ociuhandu: tavi! | 16:05 |
| ociuhandu | hello all | 16:05 |
| primeministerp | ociuhandu: is alex going to join as well | 16:05 |
| ociuhandu | yes, he'll be joining in a couple of minutes | 16:05 |
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| alexpilotti | hi guys | 16:07 |
| pnavarro | hi alexpilotti | 16:07 |
| alexpilotti | sorry for being late! | 16:07 |
| primeministerp | hey no worries | 16:08 |
| primeministerp | so | 16:08 |
| primeministerp | i guess we'll offically begin | 16:08 |
| alexpilotti | my Colloquy was disconnected, can u plz tell me what's teh current topic? :-) | 16:08 |
| primeministerp | #topic cinder | 16:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "cinder (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 16:08 | |
| alexpilotti | cool | 16:08 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: and i were discussing the bug | 16:08 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: from the email | 16:08 |
| alexpilotti | what bug? :-) | 16:08 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: i wanted to confirm it's fit's a bug or not | 16:09 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: the non functioning cinder commands | 16:09 |
| * primeministerp looks at the email | 16:09 | |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: that you found | 16:09 |
| alexpilotti | sure | 16:09 |
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| alexpilotti | it was a question. How to remove a cinder-volume service | 16:10 |
| alexpilotti | the case is simple: | 16:10 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: removing existing volumes | 16:10 |
| alexpilotti | you run devstack | 16:10 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: is it definately a bug? | 16:10 |
| alexpilotti | ok, I'm missing something :-) | 16:11 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: the email you sent | 16:11 |
| alexpilotti | the email I sent today? | 16:11 |
| primeministerp | On the controller I didn't find a way to remove an existing cinder-volume service except editing the db. | 16:11 |
| primeministerp | yes | 16:11 |
| alexpilotti | yep | 16:11 |
| alexpilotti | so the case is simple: | 16:11 |
| alexpilotti | you have e.g. devstack | 16:11 |
| primeministerp | i just want clarity on what the problem is | 16:12 |
| alexpilotti | you stop the cinder-volume service | 16:12 |
| alexpilotti | you add cinder-volume running on Windows Storage | 16:12 |
| alexpilotti | on the controller you'll still see both services | 16:12 |
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| alexpilotti | so if you run: cinder volume create 1 | 16:12 |
| primeministerp | ahh gotcha | 16:12 |
| alexpilotti | it will try to use either one | 16:13 |
| primeministerp | it will try to create on the wrong vol server | 16:13 |
| primeministerp | i get it | 16:13 |
| primeministerp | now | 16:13 |
| primeministerp | i thought it was on the target end | 16:13 |
| primeministerp | something in pnavarro bits | 16:13 |
| primeministerp | that wasn't functioning | 16:13 |
| alexpilotti | no, nothing on our side | 16:13 |
| primeministerp | o | 16:13 |
| primeministerp | great | 16:13 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: you're off the hook | 16:13 |
| primeministerp | ;) | 16:13 |
| pnavarro | thanks | 16:13 |
| primeministerp | haha | 16:13 |
| alexpilotti | pnavarro: do you have any clue? I'm going to ask the cinder guys otherwise | 16:13 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: any timeline on the installer? | 16:14 |
| alexpilotti | lol | 16:14 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti:sorry | 16:14 |
| pnavarro | sorry alex, no idea what's the problem... | 16:14 |
| alexpilotti | ah yep. I'm going to release the installer today | 16:14 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: awesome | 16:14 |
| alexpilotti | for cinder-volume only, that's what we need | 16:14 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: no problem on our end | 16:14 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: just didn't automatically remove the linux service | 16:14 |
| alexpilotti | IMO we can leave out cinder-api and cinder-scheduler | 16:14 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: if i understand correctly | 16:14 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: why? | 16:15 |
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| alexpilotti | because I had some issues on running them with the latest Grizzly bits on Windows | 16:15 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: *nod* | 16:15 |
| alexpilotti | and because those services run usually on a controller, not on each volume node | 16:16 |
| alexpilotti | let's say that "cinder-volume" is for Cinder what "nova-compute" is for Nova | 16:16 |
| primeministerp | i get it | 16:16 |
| primeministerp | thx | 16:16 |
| primeministerp | ok | 16:16 |
| primeministerp | guess we'll move on | 16:17 |
| alexpilotti | of course we want to have all the rest on WIndows as well ;-) | 16:17 |
| alexpilotti | sure | 16:17 |
| primeministerp | ;) | 16:17 |
| primeministerp | #topic quantum | 16:17 |
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| alexpilotti | ahem | 16:17 |
| primeministerp | ? | 16:17 |
| alexpilotti | next topic? :-) | 16:17 |
| primeministerp | quantum? | 16:17 |
| primeministerp | was there something i missed? | 16:17 |
| alexpilotti | kidding, due to the CI stuff I was not able to do more than looking at pnavarro's bits | 16:18 |
| alexpilotti | pnavarro: do you have anything new? | 16:18 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: i was asking mostly for pnavarro's input | 16:18 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: you're on the hook again | 16:18 |
| primeministerp | ;) | 16:18 |
| alexpilotti | lol | 16:18 |
| pnavarro | alexpilotti: agent is running ok, i'm still testing agent- plugin communication | 16:18 |
| alexpilotti | pnavarro: great! | 16:19 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: great | 16:19 |
| pnavarro | so, I'd appreciate any help | 16:19 |
| alexpilotti | pnavarro: this week, I swear, I'm working on it :-) | 16:19 |
| pnavarro | perfect | 16:19 |
| primeministerp | and alexpilotti you'll start work again shortly | 16:19 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: will we be able to account for the nvgre bits | 16:20 |
| alexpilotti | pnavarro: on the agent side, what hyper-V specific features did you test already? | 16:20 |
| ociuhandu | sorry guys, i have to run now, will ba back in about 45 minutes | 16:20 |
| ociuhandu | primeministerp: i'll ping you when i get back | 16:21 |
| primeministerp | ociuhandu: ok, let's touch base re: ci | 16:21 |
| primeministerp | ociuhandu: great | 16:21 |
| pnavarro | I tested ports updates | 16:21 |
| ociuhandu | bye all & yalk to you later | 16:21 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: nice | 16:22 |
| alexpilotti | pnavarro: this time, we should think about a FakePlugin since we don't have the rush | 16:22 |
| pnavarro | alexpilotti: yeah | 16:22 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: and by fake plugin? | 16:23 |
| primeministerp | for my ignorance | 16:23 |
| primeministerp | please | 16:23 |
| primeministerp | same as the wmi test interface | 16:23 |
| primeministerp | but for quantum only? | 16:23 |
| alexpilotti | basically a class that emulates the wmi calls, by creating an asbtarction layer on them | 16:23 |
| primeministerp | gotcha | 16:24 |
| alexpilotti | so in the code, instead of calling WMI we call this new layer | 16:24 |
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| alexpilotti | which can be replaced by a fake one during tests | 16:24 |
| alexpilotti | we have to do the same for Nova and Cinder of course | 16:24 |
| pnavarro | alexpilotti the wmi library creator gave you some hint about that? | 16:24 |
| alexpilotti | pnavarro: nope :-( | 16:25 |
| alexpilotti | pnavarro: but if we wrap all the calls we are fine | 16:25 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: aren't you wrapping them 2x then? | 16:25 |
| alexpilotti | pnavarro: this IMO will not reach the level of coverage we had with the dynamic mocks, but it's ok | 16:25 |
| alexpilotti | primeministerp: yes, no comment | 16:26 |
| primeministerp | hahaha | 16:26 |
| alexpilotti | indeed we are not really wrapping them twice | 16:26 |
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| alexpilotti | there while be a lower level fine grained layer | 16:26 |
| primeministerp | *nod* | 16:26 |
| primeministerp | hehe | 16:26 |
| alexpilotti | and a high level (the driver itself) | 16:26 |
| primeministerp | fair enough | 16:27 |
| alexpilotti | the point is that we should test the low level one as well… that's the funny part | 16:27 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: maybe we can leverage the new relationship w/ tom for assistance | 16:27 |
| primeministerp | w/ getting you information | 16:27 |
| primeministerp | resources | 16:27 |
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| alexpilotti | unfortunately the way in which WMI is done is the problem | 16:28 |
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| alexpilotti | the amazing flexibility it provides becomes a huge PINTA for testing | 16:28 |
| primeministerp | *nod* | 16:28 |
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| primeministerp | we definately don't have it easy | 16:29 |
| pnavarro | yeah, we can't use mocks library | 16:29 |
| primeministerp | so why not specifically | 16:29 |
| primeministerp | the nature of having to test the network itself? | 16:29 |
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| alexpilotti | setting up the tests will be relatively easy, as we can take the OVS ones as a reference | 16:30 |
| alexpilotti | pnavarro: is your repo updated? | 16:30 |
| pnavarro | yeah | 16:31 |
| pnavarro | alexpilotti: I've added the binary | 16:31 |
| alexpilotti | pnavarro: this it the latest plugin? https://github.com/pnavarro/quantum/tree/master/quantum/plugins/windowsvswitch | 16:31 |
| pnavarro | yes | 16:31 |
| primeministerp | #link https://github.com/pnavarro/quantum/tree/master/quantum/plugins/windowsvswitch | 16:31 |
| pnavarro | If you don't like the name, we can change it | 16:32 |
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| primeministerp | pnavarro: name doesn't bother me | 16:32 |
| alexpilotti | pnavarro: I'd go with hypervswitch, but that's a detail :-) | 16:32 |
| pnavarro | oki doki | 16:32 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: he's a bit right there | 16:32 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: ... and your the purist | 16:33 |
| primeministerp | ;) | 16:33 |
| primeministerp | ok | 16:33 |
| primeministerp | should we move on? | 16:33 |
| primeministerp | to ci talk? | 16:33 |
| alexpilotti | pnavarro: I'm loking at the utils.py, good work! | 16:33 |
| pnavarro | thanks alexpilotti ! | 16:34 |
| primeministerp | #topic CI | 16:34 |
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| primeministerp | alexpilotti: this will be quick | 16:34 |
| primeministerp | since i'll have to catch up w/ tavi later | 16:34 |
| alexpilotti | lol | 16:34 |
| primeministerp | but I figure we'll coordinate | 16:35 |
| primeministerp | then | 16:35 |
| alexpilotti | sure, ociuhandu will be back in ca 1hr | 16:35 |
| primeministerp | i'm assuming you guys haven't picked up yet | 16:35 |
| pnavarro | i'll read the logs later, I have to go | 16:35 |
| primeministerp | from where we left off | 16:35 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: thanks for everything | 16:35 |
| pnavarro | ciao ! | 16:35 |
| alexpilotti | I resumed the work this afternoon (aka 2 hours ago) | 16:35 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: on the scripting? | 16:36 |
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| alexpilotti | pnavarro: hasta luego! | 16:36 |
| alexpilotti | primeministerp: yep, I'm polishing up the scripts for the controller | 16:36 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: ok | 16:36 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: i figured out why my post script wasn't running out of the preseed | 16:37 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: fixed and going test | 16:37 |
| alexpilotti | cool | 16:37 |
| primeministerp | also hoping to resume work on the windows unatted bit | 16:37 |
| primeministerp | s | 16:37 |
| primeministerp | next couple of days are going to be tough for me | 16:37 |
| primeministerp | due to meetings | 16:37 |
| alexpilotti | primeministerp: BTW VPN works fine also from this side of the "pond" :-) | 16:37 |
| primeministerp | and now the move | 16:37 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: great | 16:37 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: i resurected my asa at home | 16:38 |
| primeministerp | I'm going to put a static tunnel up for me | 16:38 |
| primeministerp | now that I have to move | 16:38 |
| primeministerp | my office | 16:38 |
| primeministerp | also ordered sound protective bluetooth headset for working in the dc | 16:38 |
| primeministerp | anyway | 16:39 |
| primeministerp | o | 16:39 |
| primeministerp | mordred: ping | 16:39 |
| primeministerp | mordred: whats the best way for us to start the process of integration our hyper-v work | 16:39 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: i was thinking we can start adding the bits we've created | 16:40 |
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| primeministerp | alexpilotti: that way we don't dump a whole lot on top | 16:40 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: and can increment at a minimum the working parts | 16:40 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: any thoughts | 16:40 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: also then we'd be working out of git | 16:40 |
| primeministerp | well mordred might be busy i'll try to follow up w/ him later | 16:41 |
| alexpilotti | primeministerp: Since finishing the "layer 1" stuff is almost done, can we set up a meeting wit mordred this or next week? | 16:42 |
| primeministerp | ok | 16:42 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: that's my thoughts | 16:43 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: i'll work on that | 16:43 |
| alexpilotti | cool | 16:43 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: and let's plan on having a skype when tavi gets back | 16:43 |
| primeministerp | just to touch base | 16:43 |
| alexpilotti | coo, I'll be here as well | 16:43 |
| primeministerp | ok great | 16:43 |
| primeministerp | i've got to head in into the office | 16:43 |
| primeministerp | so i'll be offline for a while | 16:43 |
| primeministerp | ok closing the meeting | 16:43 |
| primeministerp | #endmeeting | 16:44 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Dec 11 16:44:03 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:44 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2012/hyper_v.2012-12-11-15.58.html | 16:44 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2012/hyper_v.2012-12-11-15.58.txt | 16:44 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2012/hyper_v.2012-12-11-15.58.log.html | 16:44 |
| alexpilotti | ok bye! | 16:44 |
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| ayoung | #startmeeting keystone | 18:00 |
| ayoung | #startmeeting keystone | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 11 18:00:12 2012 UTC. The chair is ayoung. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'keystone' | 18:00 |
| gyee | o/ | 18:00 |
| henrynash | hi | 18:00 |
| kwss | hello | 18:00 |
| ayoung | dolphm is going to away for most, but should be joining us at the end | 18:00 |
| ayoung | And I don't see heckj around | 18:01 |
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| ayoung | #link http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/KeystoneMeeting | 18:02 |
| henrynash | ayoung: I added the item of a reference implementation for groups to the agenda | 18:02 |
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| ayoung | Although we are going to move the discussion of Module Refactoring to the end, to hopefully get dolph's input | 18:02 |
| ayoung | henrynash, sounds goodf | 18:02 |
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| ayoung | We should also probably start doing a review of previous minutes in these, to make sure old "todo" items are covered. But we had no #actions from last time | 18:03 |
| dwchadwick | Did we cover all the items from last week? | 18:04 |
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| ayoung | dwchadwick, lets see... | 18:04 |
| ayoung | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2012/keystone.2012-11-27-18.10.html | 18:04 |
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| ayoung | I'd have to dig out the revision history in the Wiki to see what the agenda was. | 18:05 |
| dwchadwick | tunnel | 18:05 |
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| henrynash | dwchadwick: do you see the light at the end of the tunnel or is that a train going your way :-) | 18:06 |
| ayoung | old agenda was | 18:06 |
| ayoung | High priority bugs or immediate issues? | 18:06 |
| ayoung | Open discussion | 18:06 |
| ayoung | Groups vs. attribute mappings | 18:06 |
| ayoung | Adding IDPs to service catalog | 18:06 |
| ayoung | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/adding-idps-to-service-catalog | 18:06 |
| ayoung | Delegation | 18:06 |
| ayoung | http://wiki.openstack.org/keystone/Delegation | 18:06 |
| ayoung | Status/Timeframe of Federation integration | 18:06 |
| ayoung | http://wiki.openstack.org/Keystone/Federation/Blueprint | 18:06 |
| ayoung | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/adding-idps-to-service-catalog | 18:06 |
| ayoung | I think we covered all that. | 18:06 |
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| ayoung | OK. let start with | 18:06 |
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| ayoung | #topic High priority bugs or immediate issues | 18:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "High priority bugs or immediate issues (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:06 | |
| ayoung | 2 new (untriaged) bugs, neither seem high priority: One is a test bug the other is https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1087234 | 18:07 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1087234 in keystone "It should be possible to delete a tenant by its name" [Undecided,New] | 18:07 |
| ayoung | RFE | 18:07 |
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| ayoung | Looking at the high priority bugs: | 18:08 |
| ayoung | 0 critical | 18:09 |
| ayoung | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bugs?search=Search&field.importance=Critical&field.status=New&field.status=Incomplete&field.status=Confirmed&field.status=Triaged&field.status=In+Progress&field.status=Fix+Committed | 18:09 |
| ayoung | 15 High | 18:09 |
| ayoung | https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bugs?search=Search&field.importance=High&field.status=New&field.status=Incomplete&field.status=Confirmed&field.status=Triaged&field.status=In+Progress&field.status=Fix+Committed | 18:09 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: targets for bug squashing on Thursday? | 18:10 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, good question | 18:10 |
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| henrynash | I'be got some IBMers coming up to speed on keystone…so could direct them at whatever we select | 18:11 |
| ayoung | henrynash, none of the high look like something we can just "knock out." | 18:11 |
| ayoung | henrynash, potentially this one https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1040696 | 18:11 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1040696 in keystone "invalid EC2 signature authentication for requests without a port" [High,Triaged] | 18:12 |
| ayoung | OK, let me give a quick status on the refactoring and then we can table the rest of the discussion until dolph is present | 18:12 |
| ayoung | #topic Module Refactoring | 18:12 |
| henrynash | and https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1061738 | 18:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Module Refactoring (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:12 | |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1061738 in keystone "create_service() returns 500 Internal Server Error when bad keyword arg (XML only)" [High,Triaged] | 18:12 |
| ayoung | henrynash, yeah, that would be a good one to look at, too | 18:13 |
| ayoung | Ok, the service.py file was too fat | 18:13 |
| henrynash | :-) | 18:13 |
| ayoung | and, it was not quite possible to move the TokenController into the token module package (keysteon/token) due to a circular dependency | 18:13 |
| gyee | ayoung, looks like you are doing massive refactoring, should I start on the token work now or wait for you? | 18:14 |
| ayoung | so I've been shuffling files around | 18:14 |
| gyee | otherwise, one of us well be busy rebasing | 18:14 |
| gyee | will | 18:14 |
| ayoung | gyee, I think we all need to focus on understanding this refactoring before doing any more work on modules | 18:14 |
| gyee | k | 18:14 |
| ayoung | review is this one | 18:14 |
| ayoung | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/17782/ | 18:14 |
| gyee | I see a cross from dolph | 18:15 |
| henrynash | ayoung: agreed (although I have just about completed the changes for a reference implementation of groups on the server side - so refactoring, I gotta do! | 18:15 |
| ayoung | gyee, right, which is why we need him here to discuss | 18:15 |
| ayoung | henrynash, if you push your changes as a WIP review, I can give you guidance how to reshuffle based on the refactoring | 18:16 |
| henrynash | ayoung: great, thx | 18:16 |
| ayoung | OK, keeping that in mind, let's table the rest of the discussion on the refactoring, and move on. | 18:16 |
| henrynash | ayoung: you mean a git review -D ? | 18:16 |
| ayoung | henrynash, yes | 18:17 |
| ayoung | get review -w | 18:17 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: ok, thx | 18:17 |
| ayoung | it will show up as a WIP. We'll be able to see it, but it won't be in danger of getting merged | 18:17 |
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| ayoung | #topic Groups/Attributes | 18:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Groups/Attributes (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:18 | |
| henrynash | (assuming we want the defence design in…but that's another topic) | 18:18 |
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| henrynash | ahh, I mean, this topic :-) | 18:18 |
| ayoung | #action henrynash submites WIP review of reference impl thus far | 18:18 |
| ayoung | henrynash, the floor is yours. What are the issues? | 18:18 |
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| henrynash | so the fundamental question is whether it is in our best interest to start with a defence design based on current RBAC capabilities | 18:19 |
| henrynash | (sorry, I meant a "reference" design) | 18:19 |
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| henrynash | …and then start plugging in the attribute capabilities and cut out the bits of the reference design no lover needed | 18:20 |
| henrynash | (longer) | 18:20 |
| ayoung | henrynash, your typos are getting freudian | 18:20 |
| henrynash | I aim to amuse :-) | 18:21 |
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| henrynash | current state is that the keystone client reference design is already up for review at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/17693/ | 18:21 |
| ayoung | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/17693/ | 18:22 |
| henrynash | …and the server side will be ready for review (WIP as necessary) later this week | 18:22 |
| dwchad2 | Henry, if you have spare development cycles, why not work with Kristy on attribute mapping | 18:22 |
| ayoung | henrynash, I think we need to see that. | 18:22 |
| gyee | ayoung, should we wait for henrynash's keystone impl before review the client changes? | 18:23 |
| henrynash | dwchad2: so have made comments to the attribute mapping api proposals | 18:23 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, link? | 18:23 |
| dwchad2 | henry: been in london at a meeting all day so not had chance to see them yet | 18:24 |
| kwss | henrynash: I got an email but can't see the comments in google docs | 18:24 |
| henrynash | kwss: sometimes they are in the comments button at the top - and could you post the link to your doc in this IRC? | 18:24 |
| dwchad2 | what is the advantage of putting in groups now, if they are going to modified in a few weeks time? | 18:24 |
| ayoung | #link https://docs.google.com/a/kent.ac.uk/document/d/1cObK3P_ic9XSTwJRFsmimG94LDnFbsPbvx_H1aM1FPI/edit# | 18:25 |
| ayoung | Is that still the current doc? | 18:25 |
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| kwss | yes | 18:26 |
| kwss | ayoung: yes | 18:26 |
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| henrynash | dwchad2: I think we have to consider any attribute based implementation experimental until we get through all the details (which I have no doubt we will in the end)….but the RBAC solution is pretty simple, straightforward and we know will work | 18:26 |
| henrynash | kwss: so on my copy, my comments come up if you click the comments box at the top…. | 18:27 |
| dwchad2 | but your use of attribute mapping wont be experimental since it will map groups into roles and tenants. So there are no "attributes" involved (except that they are all attributes!) | 18:27 |
| kwss | henrynash: I see them now, I'll respond after the meeting :) | 18:28 |
| henrynash | kwss: no problem, thx | 18:28 |
| dwchad2 | attribute mapping is another way of implementing groups that can be made invisible to end users, and it a step on the way to federation, whereas groups on its own is not | 18:28 |
| ayoung | henrynash, I am going to kind of leave it up to you for now. If you think you can get the groups impl working on top of attributes, and do so in the Grizzly time frame, I think that would be the best approach, but I can see that might be too tight a dependency | 18:29 |
| henrynash | dwchad2: agreed….and hence the proposal of the reference design that we then start using the attribute mapper to store the relationships... | 18:29 |
| ayoung | I'd almost like to do attributes like we did PKI: get it in and usable in Grizzly, and then, in H, make it the default for all the things that are going to use them | 18:29 |
| henrynash | ayoung: I'm happy to put the work in on top of the basic reference implementation so that we start exploring how we sue attributes for this | 18:30 |
| ayoung | I think once we have Attributes etc, retrofitting APIs to use them will be fairly straightforward, so we should hold things up waiting for them for fear of future work. | 18:30 |
| henrynash | ayoung: agreed | 18:31 |
| ayoung | dwchad2, kwss, does that pass the sanity test? | 18:31 |
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| dwchad2 | ayoung: did you mean not | 18:32 |
| ayoung | dwchad2, yes "we should *not* hold things up..." | 18:33 |
| kwss | makes sense to me | 18:33 |
| ayoung | #agreed Groups goes forward ontop of RBAC, gets retrofitted in H release | 18:34 |
| dwchad2 | If Henry has spare dev cycles I would rather he works with Kristy on attributes now and they will have it finished in half the time | 18:34 |
| ayoung | dwchad2, yes, but then we still need to do the Groups implementation on top of it | 18:34 |
| ayoung | Which will likely push it out of the Griz release | 18:34 |
| dwchad2 | Since there are many many things to do in Keystone, creating extra work is a big issue to me | 18:35 |
| ayoung | understood | 18:35 |
| ayoung | but we need to balance the demand from the other projects with the need to set things up for the long term....hard line to walk | 18:35 |
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| dwchad2 | The groups work is the easiest bit once you have attribute mapping since all Henry needs to do is add roles to the backend and pull them out. No other API changes are needed | 18:36 |
| henrynash | dwchad2: I'll happily work with Kristy to add support for attributes once we have the reference design - I really think this is at the safer route | 18:36 |
| dwchad2 | With Henry's current plan there is a lot of changes needed to the APIs | 18:36 |
| ayoung | dwchad2 I am not sure I agree. I think we are going to need a deliberate group api to give off to the other projects. | 18:36 |
| ayoung | dwchad2, that is fine, lets get them in the review. I think the focus should be nailing down the APIs for groups | 18:37 |
| dwchad2 | The group API you need is to add groups to users and retrieve groups from users | 18:37 |
| dwchad2 | then the AM maps the groups into roles and tenants and domains and whatever else you need | 18:37 |
| gyee | also, assigning roles to them | 18:38 |
| ayoung | gyee, dwchad2 this is where things get gray | 18:38 |
| ayoung | we can treat everything as an attribute internally | 18:38 |
| dwchad2 | gyee: no, since you already have the apis for adding roles to users | 18:38 |
| ayoung | but we need to export APIs to the end users that speak their language. | 18:38 |
| ayoung | dwchad2, but we don't have the API for adding roles to groups | 18:39 |
| gyee | whole point of doing groups is we don't have to directly assigning roles to users | 18:39 |
| dwchad2 | You dont add roles to groups. You set up attribute mappings for this | 18:39 |
| ayoung | I understand that we could do that with the mapping API, but I think it will be too low level | 18:39 |
| gyee | how does attribute map API works? | 18:40 |
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| ayoung | dwchad2, gyee hold on | 18:40 |
| ayoung | lets not get into a design discussion right now | 18:40 |
| ayoung | here is the chase | 18:40 |
| ayoung | we need to expose an API that people will understand. Educating them on ABAC and Attribute mapping will take time | 18:40 |
| dwchad2 | we already have a published design, so we should discuss this after the meeting | 18:40 |
| ayoung | dwchad2, +1 | 18:41 |
| dwchad2 | ayoung: +1 | 18:41 |
| ayoung | dwchad2, so I think we have an Education task as far as ABAC etc. First thing is to get ABAC into the code base. We can then show how we use it to do things that were more "hard coded" in the past. and then replace the hard coded implementations with ABAC | 18:41 |
| dwchad2 | clearly having working code you can demonstrate is far better to end users than a blueprint :-=) | 18:42 |
| dwchad2 | Just like it was with federation | 18:42 |
| ayoung | However, that does not mean we hold off on new features until ABAC is in. While I know you have a good grasp on the implementation details, I still think it is going to take longer than you think to get to the point where we can depend on it | 18:43 |
| dwchad2 | actually we are not adding ABAC initially | 18:43 |
| dwchad2 | we are only adding AM | 18:43 |
| dwchad2 | the authz is still RBAC using existing roles | 18:43 |
| ayoung | dwchad2, I am lumping attribute mapping into ABAC. I realize I am being imprecise. | 18:43 |
| dwchad2 | yes, its a multi step process. And AM is one way of implementing groups and RBAC which is an intercept strategy for ABAC and federation | 18:44 |
| henrynash | dwchad2: but the underpinning is the same entities (sets, mappings etc.) and the api to go with it - it will be important for us to really get that right…since once it is in there, we will depend on it for a longtime | 18:44 |
| dwchad2 | So you dont waste any time and coding | 18:44 |
| ayoung | OK, We need to make sure we talk about the Keyring thing. I'm going to move us along.... | 18:45 |
| dwchad2 | the api we have designed is fully generic and extensible | 18:45 |
| ayoung | #topic Keyring | 18:45 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Keyring (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:45 | |
| dwchad2 | so adding domains becomes very easy | 18:45 |
| henrynash | ayoung: I need to ask if the action you stated a while back still stands on this | 18:45 |
| henrynash | (to close it out) | 18:45 |
| ayoung | henrynash, well, understand I am not PTL, so it is just my call, not an official project call | 18:46 |
| henrynash | ayoung: OK, understood | 18:46 |
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| ayoung | I'd take it as a suggestion for now, and drive forward with the groups work as is, especially since you already have the code nearly done. We'll take it up again post code review? | 18:47 |
| henrynash | ayoung: ok, agreed | 18:47 |
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| ayoung | #action revisit Groups once Attribute Mapping and Groups reviews are both posted | 18:47 |
| ayoung | OK, Keysring | 18:47 |
| gyee | keyring | 18:48 |
| ayoung | gyee, here is my understanding | 18:48 |
| ayoung | we want keyring as a long term tool, but we need to be sneaky about it. And we got caught | 18:48 |
| dwchad2 | what is keyring. Do you have a URL | 18:49 |
| ayoung | There are many issues around credentials caching, probably most significantly when the user is an automated daemon | 18:49 |
| gyee | ayoung, disabling keyring by default means on one will use it, ever :) | 18:49 |
| ayoung | gyee, can you summarize Keysring support | 18:49 |
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| ayoung | gyee, understood | 18:49 |
| ayoung | but we need to do that initially | 18:49 |
| ayoung | like PKI tokens | 18:50 |
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| ayoung | get it in, but disabled | 18:50 |
| gyee | we added keyring support in keystoneclient so we can cache tokens in keyring | 18:50 |
| gyee | advantage #1 no need to keep requesting tokens | 18:50 |
| ayoung | then work out the issues with explicitly enabling it in Devstack. | 18:50 |
| ayoung | gyee, to be specific | 18:50 |
| gyee | #2 no need to have passwords in env var | 18:50 |
| ayoung | if we cache the unscoped tokens, we only need to request a new one when they are about to time out, and we can continue to use them to request scoped tokens | 18:51 |
| gyee | yes | 18:51 |
| ayoung | gyee, so there is the rub...#2 | 18:51 |
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| ayoung | for an automated daemon, we need to be able to deal with initializing keyring without user interaction, much like a kerberos Keytab | 18:52 |
| gyee | problem is there are two usage of python-keystoneclient, interactively and non-interactive | 18:52 |
| ayoung | gyee, right, so we need to keep it disabled by default until we clear up how to solve the non-interactive use cases | 18:52 |
| gyee | ayoung, I'll need to do some code diving | 18:53 |
| gyee | I mean looking at the keyring impl | 18:53 |
| ayoung | dwchad2, I think I have a link to the upstream package we are pulling in for Keyring, but basically it is a python front end to things like nss databases, openssh keys, etc. A (hopefully secure) credential cache | 18:53 |
| ayoung | #link http://bitbucket.org/kang/python-keyring-lib | 18:55 |
| gyee | if your login password is the same as your keyring password, ubuntu won't prompt for keyring password | 18:55 |
| ayoung | That is from | 18:56 |
| ayoung | /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/keyring-0.9.2-py2.7.egg-info/PKG-INFO | 18:56 |
| ayoung | gyee, there is also the question about whether tokens should get shared between applications that are all using keystone client. My thought is "of course" but I suspect some people will object. Also, we need to figure out what to do if keyring is installed on a machine that is running horizon | 18:57 |
| ayoung | tokens should not get cached the same way from HTTPD.... | 18:57 |
| gyee | that's what keyring is for | 18:57 |
| gyee | think of keyring as your browser cookie jar | 18:58 |
| ayoung | gyee, can I ask you to write up what the overall strategy is for implementing keyring, and covere those 3 uses: automates, HTTPD, CLI? | 18:58 |
| ayoung | I think we need to be able to point people at that doc when we try to educate them about the usage. | 18:59 |
| gyee | sure | 18:59 |
| ayoung | #action gyee to write up strategy is for implementing keyring, covering (at least) 3 uses: automated , HTTPD, CLI | 19:00 |
| ayoung | OK, that is 2PM. No dolphm so we are going to have to table the discussion on the refactoring. | 19:01 |
| ayoung | Any last points before we get kicked out? | 19:01 |
| ayoung | #topic Test Coverage | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Test Coverage (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 19:01 | |
| ayoung | #link http://admiyo.fedorapeople.org/openstack/covhtml/ | 19:01 |
| ayoung | I'll update that post refactoring, but please take a look at the pieces you are working on, and try and expand the unit test coverage. That is all. | 19:02 |
| ayoung | #endmeeting | 19:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack meetings || Development in #openstack-dev || Help in #openstack" | 19:02 | |
| malini | Would not anyone with access to the login password be able to reset the keyring password? | 19:02 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Dec 11 19:02:40 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:02 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2012/keystone.2012-12-11-18.00.html | 19:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2012/keystone.2012-12-11-18.00.txt | 19:02 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2012/keystone.2012-12-11-18.00.log.html | 19:02 |
| ayoung | malini, lets continue in #openstack-dev\ | 19:03 |
| fungi | ci roll call? | 19:03 |
| malini | OK! Take care | 19:03 |
| clarkb | o/ | 19:03 |
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| jeblair | o/ | 19:03 |
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| fungi | toddmorey? mordred? | 19:04 |
| fungi | pabelanger? | 19:04 |
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| jeblair | todd's joining now... | 19:04 |
| jeblair | we're on cafe wifi -- wish us luck | 19:04 |
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| fungi | heh | 19:04 |
| jeblair | #startmeeting ci | 19:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 11 19:04:59 2012 UTC. The chair is jeblair. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:05 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ci)" | 19:05 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ci' | 19:05 |
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| jeblair | let's make an agenda now -- who has topics? | 19:05 |
| fungi | cla stuff, git-review... | 19:06 |
| clarkb | nova testr, weekend project moves | 19:06 |
| fungi | looks agendafied enough to me | 19:06 |
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| jeblair | ttx wants updates on stuff later in the meeting | 19:06 |
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| jeblair | so in order of least to most interest to ttx: | 19:07 |
| jeblair | #topic git-review | 19:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "git-review (Meeting topic: ci)" | 19:07 | |
| fungi | yep | 19:07 |
| fungi | so clarkb has put together a skeleton for a test suite: #link https://review.openstack.org/17552 | 19:08 |
| fungi | i've started playing with that some, want to see what we can plug in from #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/Exy0u2IYpO | 19:08 |
| clarkb | I am not entirely sure that it is worth much, but it was an itch I had to scratch | 19:09 |
| fungi | also, i've started conversing with marcin on #link https://review.openstack.org/14953 | 19:09 |
| clarkb | at the very least it should help point out some of the difficulties in testing git-review with unit test like tests | 19:09 |
| fungi | yes, very promising | 19:09 |
| fungi | as for 14953, i'm interested in feedback from the group on the direction there. he raises some excellent points | 19:10 |
| clarkb | ok, if I manage to do one thing today I will make sure that looking at that change is the one thing | 19:10 |
| fungi | particularly in respect to being able to define discrete error codes to enable easier feedback to gerrit admins from less-experienced users | 19:11 |
| fungi | that exhausts what i have on git-review for the moment. anybody else have anything for that topic? | 19:11 |
| clarkb | for testing, it would be a whole lot easier if git-review became an importable python script | 19:12 |
| clarkb | so that may be something we want to look at doing if automated testing becomes important | 19:12 |
| fungi | yes, which could be as simple as wrapping in main(): and checking the calling namespace at the end of teh script | 19:12 |
| jeblair | clarkb: that sounds very reasonable | 19:12 |
| clarkb | thats all I had | 19:13 |
| jeblair | #topic nova testr | 19:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "nova testr (Meeting topic: ci)" | 19:13 | |
| clarkb | nova testr is really picking up steam. mordred's DB fixture change was merged, and all of my test bug fixes have been merged | 19:14 |
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| clarkb | mordred thinks we really need to continue having html test result output, so the next thing that I will be working on is making a subunit consumer that spits out html | 19:14 |
| clarkb | other than that run_tests needs to be ported (I feel like we will lose the battle if that doesn't happen) and run-tox.sh will need to be updated to hande nose and testr results | 19:15 |
| jeblair | yeah, i think that will be really helpful | 19:15 |
| * fungi agrees | 19:16 | |
| jeblair | the html output will be helpful | 19:16 |
| jeblair | clarkb: i'd like to see run_tests.sh do less over time... | 19:16 |
| jeblair | to sort of head toward being a thinner and thinner wrapper around tox, at least for the important bits | 19:16 |
| fungi | i'd like to see run_tests.sh be documentation of how ci invokes the testsuite, and nothing more | 19:16 |
| jeblair | to try to address the "tests are run two ways" problem | 19:17 |
| clarkb | ++ | 19:17 |
| jeblair | fungi: yeah | 19:17 |
| jeblair | clarkb: so i mean, not suggesting you solve all those problems right at first... | 19:17 |
| clarkb | that is a good idea. It should be straightforward to push fungi's suggestion to run_tests.sh and see what reviewers say | 19:17 |
| jeblair | clarkb: but maybe that can influence your direction as you hack on run_tests, | 19:18 |
| fungi | run_tests.sh does have the benefit of being immediately obvious, easy to find, and something lots of people already know to run | 19:18 |
| clarkb | lifeless has been super helpful and we have added features to fixtures and testrepository to help make this happen | 19:18 |
| fungi | as opposed to burying invocation instructions in a HACKING file | 19:18 |
| jeblair | clarkb: lifeless said that you and mordred wanted to get rid of tox. i'm assuming he was remembering the wrong word. | 19:19 |
| fungi | npse? | 19:19 |
| fungi | er, nose? | 19:19 |
| mordred | nose | 19:19 |
| mordred | we want to get rid of nose | 19:19 |
| clarkb | mordred: I think you did mention how sourcing the tox venv and run testr run --failing | 19:20 |
| jeblair | good. glad we're on the same page. :) | 19:20 |
| clarkb | is useful. that doesn't get rid of tox just changes the workflow in places | 19:20 |
| mordred | clarkb: yes. I mean, people should learn how to use testr | 19:20 |
| fungi | mordred also enjoys herding cats in his spare time | 19:21 |
| clarkb | tox will be sticking around I think. | 19:21 |
| clarkb | any other questions comments concerns about testr? | 19:21 |
| jeblair | #topic project moves / zuul server move | 19:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "project moves / zuul server move (Meeting topic: ci)" | 19:22 | |
| jeblair | mordred: your changes for the ci->infra rename ready? | 19:22 |
| mordred | jeblair: they can be by this weekend - they need a re-base | 19:22 |
| mordred | (a new project got added) | 19:22 |
| jeblair | i need to propose my zuul puppet changes this week. let's assume i can get that proposed by the end of tomorrow | 19:23 |
| jeblair | then we sholud be ready to do both of those at once | 19:23 |
| jeblair | mordred: 9am PST sunday good for you? or should we do 10am? | 19:23 |
| mordred | jeblair: 9 is great | 19:24 |
| fungi | so 1700z | 19:24 |
| jeblair | ttx: ping | 19:24 |
| jeblair | okay, i'll send out an email announcement today or tomorrow | 19:24 |
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| fungi | jeblair: i'm assuming we want to block off ~3 hours given the list of changes | 19:25 |
| jeblair | fungi: yeah, a little more time is probably a good idea for this one. | 19:25 |
| fungi | wfm | 19:25 |
| clarkb | and as a reminder I probably won't be able to participate | 19:25 |
| clarkb | as Iwill have spent saturday in leavenworth | 19:26 |
| jeblair | clarkb: cool. fungi: will you be around? it's not necessary, but just wondering. | 19:26 |
| fungi | yes, wouldn't miss it | 19:26 |
| fungi | happy to help | 19:26 |
| jeblair | cool, anything else about sunday's outage? | 19:27 |
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| fungi | sounds like no | 19:28 |
| jeblair | #topic CLA project | 19:28 |
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| fungi | ttx may or may not care about this one | 19:28 |
| jeblair | yeah, i think he does. hopefully he'll show up soon. | 19:28 |
| fungi | i've got proposed documentation updates tracked at #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/cla-maintenance-2012 | 19:28 |
| fungi | review/input appreciated | 19:28 |
| fungi | proposed announcement draft there too, but with a made-up date for now | 19:29 |
| fungi | still working on the sphinx patch, since there's several places which need touching | 19:29 |
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| fungi | also putting together a proposed mechanism to do group management within jeepyb/puppet, but no patch uploaded yet | 19:30 |
| fungi | was looking for some direction there... would we want to do group management for projects within puppet rather than directly through the gerrit webui? | 19:30 |
| jeblair | fungi: no, i think we just need bootstrapping in puppet | 19:31 |
| fungi | or just initial members to bootstrap new project groups? | 19:31 |
| fungi | okay, i'll go that route then | 19:31 |
| fungi | had one other question too, which may be more for foundation people... | 19:31 |
| jeblair | fungi: and then the core/drivers groups should be self-owned in gerrit | 19:31 |
| fungi | what's the plan with the ccla and the usgcla? | 19:31 |
| fungi | leave those processes as-is for now? | 19:31 |
| clarkb | the self ownership change is simple (change the flag on the create group call) | 19:31 |
| jeblair | fungi: but having said that.. maybe we sholud consider management in gerrit -- it would mean code review for adding new people, which is cool. but i'm not sure it's necessary. | 19:32 |
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| jeblair | fungi: i still lean toward self-management in gerrit. but if someone feels strongly the other way, speak up. :) | 19:32 |
| fungi | jeblair: i can go either way. there are obvious benefits to either solution | 19:32 |
| jeblair | fungi: yes, i think we stay out of the ccla and usgcla... | 19:32 |
| jeblair | fungi: _because_ everyone, even those, still need to agree to the individual one | 19:33 |
| jeblair | fungi: which basically means that's all we care (or even can care) about | 19:33 |
| clarkb | for self managed, the -drivers of -core group(s) would have permissions to add and remove people on their own? | 19:33 |
| clarkb | if so then I think that is the way to go | 19:33 |
| jeblair | clarkb: yep | 19:34 |
| fungi | jeblair: okay. so that said, the usgcla instructions claim that the individual should *not* sign an icla. do we do group-cla for that then? | 19:34 |
| jeblair | fungi: oh how weird. i guess if it comes up, sure. :) | 19:34 |
| fungi | maybe that's something which is not implemented | 19:34 |
| ttx | pong | 19:34 |
| fungi | okay. cool enough with me | 19:34 |
| fungi | ttx! | 19:35 |
| jeblair | fungi: yeah, if we need it, we can just add it to the table real quick. | 19:35 |
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| jeblair | ttx: we're talking about cla stuff | 19:35 |
| ttx | catching up | 19:35 |
| fungi | mordred: toddmorey: any updates on the foundation integration? | 19:36 |
| jeblair | toddmorey: want to let people know about your efforts | 19:36 |
| toddmorey | sure, sorry… colliding meetings | 19:36 |
| toddmorey | ok, so the site has a live endpoint that returns the status code for a member and logs that transaction. I believe Stef thought that was enough to store.\ | 19:38 |
| toddmorey | I'm bouncing back to this after the election nomination process, so I'm working to pull up my notes. | 19:38 |
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| fungi | to add, we have review-dev pointed at that contact store url as of a couple weeks | 19:39 |
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| ttx | fungi: nice work on documentation | 19:39 |
| fungi | ttx: still in progress, of course | 19:39 |
| jeblair | fungi, toddmorey: is that the production or a dev site? | 19:39 |
| toddmorey | well, the endpoint that hits the member database is production. | 19:40 |
| fungi | jeblair: the url looks production to me, and i gather we're testing it with non-live appsec and gpg key | 19:40 |
| fungi | and we'll add a new appsec key and gpg keypair in hiera when we roll out the production change | 19:40 |
| jeblair | are there issues with combined dev and prod data? | 19:40 |
| jeblair | as in -- toddmorey do you need to clear out any data, and do we need to at some point stop pointing the dev gerrit at it? | 19:40 |
| toddmorey | I'd like to know a clear cut-over so I can indicate it in the logs as such. | 19:41 |
| jeblair | okay, if it's just a matter of knowing the timestamp, that should be easy, i don't think it'll require special planning | 19:41 |
| toddmorey | but they could be also manually reviewed if required. there's nothing destructive about the presence of the data, it would just pollute any reports…. but if I mark it, then we'll be good. | 19:42 |
| jeblair | we'll have a definite cutover time when we reconfigure the production gerrit to do this | 19:42 |
| toddmorey | minor coordination effort required, but easy to do | 19:42 |
| fungi | will there be a dev system we want to repoint review-dev at then? | 19:42 |
| clarkb | having one would be nice as a way to work through potential problems (especially since this will be new) | 19:44 |
| toddmorey | yeah, let me deploy that to staging and keep it stable for dev purposes | 19:44 |
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| fungi | also, i think we want some foundationy people to go over #link https://review-dev.openstack.org/static/cla.html (if they haven't already) | 19:44 |
| jeblair | toddmorey: cool -- one of the things we'll definitely want to do is test new versions of gerrit on review-dev, so making sure the cla integration still works against a staging server will be important | 19:44 |
| toddmorey | That will be the first external interaction with the staging environment, so might need to figure out what happens if staging is down or maybe have another environment specifically for this purpose. | 19:44 |
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| ttx | fungi: want a sanity-check that it's not different from the original ? Or are there any change we need to validate ? | 19:45 |
| toddmorey | right, for sure. that makes sense. if it's okay for it to be occasionally in flux (for minutes, usually) then we can use the existing staging environment. | 19:45 |
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| toddmorey | jeblair and I plan to talk more about how to bring the www into the ci processes, too, so they'll be more closely coupled. | 19:46 |
| ttx | toddmorey: that should simplify a few updates where we are forced to put you in the loop | 19:46 |
| jeblair | oh, so i heard that the organization mentioned in the cla needs to change | 19:46 |
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| jeblair | fungi: so my best info is that is currently wrong | 19:46 |
| jeblair | #action jeblair ask jbryce for the real official new CLA text | 19:47 |
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| clarkb | ++ to www being more ci like | 19:47 |
| fungi | to propose changes which might be needed before production | 19:47 |
| fungi | it was ripped from the wiki version, but some reformatting was necessary | 19:47 |
| fungi | since it's legalese, i don't want to do stuff without oversight | 19:47 |
| fungi | changes can be proposed against #link https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ci-puppet/blob/master/modules/openstack_project/files/gerrit/cla.html | 19:47 |
| toddmorey | it will. we're eager, too. excited about being an official participant. | 19:47 |
| fungi | yikes. i think i just lagged heavily | 19:48 |
| jeblair | toddmorey: yeah, we're getting pretty good at adding new projects, so it should be pretty easy once the code is ready for public consumption | 19:48 |
| ttx | toddmorey: at least your contributions will be recognized as such :) | 19:48 |
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| jeblair | yeah, i keep seeing 12 second lags :( | 19:48 |
| fungi | mine was, like, a minute or two | 19:49 |
| jeblair | cool, so it sounds like we have my action item... | 19:49 |
| toddmorey | sorry… lag time in the chat? Or hitting the www? what's lagging (besides my feeble mind)? | 19:49 |
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| fungi | irc lag, sorry | 19:50 |
| jeblair | then getting review of some of the docs and other changes fungi linked to... | 19:50 |
| jeblair | and then we're more or less _technically_ ready to make the change? | 19:50 |
| toddmorey | gotcha. the word 'lag' just makes me jumpy. The pagers in my head go off. | 19:50 |
| jeblair | (which will obviously involve planning/scheduling/notification, etc) | 19:50 |
| toddmorey | right, with just a quick ping to me to let me know when we cross over. | 19:50 |
| fungi | jeblair: toddmorey: works for me | 19:51 |
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| jeblair | cool. also toddmorey and i will chat with jbryce today and make sure we're all on the same page | 19:51 |
| jeblair | fungi: do you want to continue planning for the change? | 19:51 |
| fungi | also please clarify what's going to happen with the contributors page in the wiki (i assume it will be abandoned?) | 19:52 |
| jeblair | fungi: yes | 19:52 |
| fungi | jeblair: yeah, i can continue planning, sounds like | 19:52 |
| jeblair | #action fungi plan CLA cutover | 19:52 |
| fungi | yay for movement~ | 19:52 |
| fungi | ! | 19:52 |
| jeblair | #topic ttx all-request 6 minutes | 19:52 |
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| ttx | yay | 19:52 |
| ttx | First thing is the wiki transition | 19:53 |
| jeblair | (i'm hoping "cla" was a big part of ttx's agenda) | 19:53 |
| ttx | There are a few pages that grew organigally on wiki.openstack.org website | 19:53 |
| ttx | including http://wiki.openstack.org/releasestatus/ | 19:53 |
| ttx | I think we should move that off-wiki to another alias | 19:53 |
| jeblair | ttx: can you research and make a list of such pages? | 19:54 |
| fungi | www seems like a good place to me for that sort of stuff... as a user that's where i'd expect it at least | 19:54 |
| ttx | jeblair: the only other is http://wiki.openstack.org/bugstats | 19:54 |
| jeblair | ttx: what generates those? | 19:55 |
| ttx | I'm currently rewriting it so that it's actually more resuable and puppetable | 19:55 |
| clarkb | is there harm in that data moving to mediawiki then being transitioned to more permanent homes? or are we tring to get this done before we migrate? | 19:55 |
| jeblair | ttx: is that a CGI, or a cron, or...? | 19:55 |
| toddmorey | wait, one other thing that comes to mind was the secure store of the keypair on a CI server (as I'm storing pieces of the data encrypted). Monty, do you remember talking that part out? | 19:55 |
| ttx | releasestatus is generated on a cron | 19:55 |
| jeblair | clarkb: i think these are not wiki pages | 19:55 |
| ttx | takes a few minutes to generate | 19:55 |
| ttx | those are not wiki pages | 19:55 |
| ttx | they just abuse apache conf. sorry about that | 19:55 |
| clarkb | oh I see | 19:55 |
| fungi | toddmorey: we have the contact store keys securely stored in hiera on our puppet master server, if that's what you're asking | 19:55 |
| jeblair | toddmorey: i think we were going t | 19:55 |
| jeblair | ack. what fungi said. | 19:56 |
| toddmorey | right, that's exactly what I was (trying) to talk about. Thx. | 19:56 |
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| ttx | so the idea would be to add a new host alias to the machine that currenbtly has wiki, so that we can advertise new url | 19:56 |
| toddmorey | just wanted to ensure the data was usable later. :) | 19:56 |
| ttx | and then we can move to do it correctly | 19:56 |
| * fungi nods | 19:56 | |
| jeblair | ttx: good plan | 19:56 |
| ttx | status.openstack.org could host both | 19:57 |
| jeblair | ttx: toddmorey may have thoughts about adding to to www.o.o... or | 19:57 |
| ttx | No idea how to make that happen though | 19:57 |
| jeblair | ttx: we can do that^ | 19:57 |
| jeblair | ttx: we have a general purpose host for static content called static.o.o | 19:57 |
| ttx | hmm | 19:57 |
| jeblair | ttx: we could make status.openstack.org a vhost on that, and add your scripts in via puppet | 19:57 |
| jeblair | ttx: (not suggesting your url be static.o.o, that's just the real hostname for reference) | 19:58 |
| ttx | jeblair: sure, that sounds like the long-term solution | 19:58 |
| ttx | in the mean time I don't want to lose the pages when we move the wiki | 19:58 |
| jeblair | #action jeblair register status.openstack.org in dns pointing to current wiki ip | 19:58 |
| ttx | like I said, I'm actually rewriting the releasestatus code | 19:58 |
| jeblair | #action ttx pack up status scripts for installation on static.o.o via puppet | 19:59 |
| ttx | it's on bzr, will be on github when I'm done | 19:59 |
| clarkb | and someone will need to add a redirect on new wiki.o.o to status.o.o for those two pages | 19:59 |
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| ttx | clarkb: maybe yes | 19:59 |
| jeblair | yeah, the wiki cutover is coming up soon, so i think you're right clarkb | 20:00 |
| clarkb | I can edit the vhost for new wiki.o.o | 20:00 |
| ttx | not a big deal as long as the new pages are linked from the wiki | 20:00 |
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| ttx | we are off-time, I'll complain more next week | 20:00 |
| clarkb | #action clarkb setup redirect from new wiki to status.o.o for bustats and releasestatus | 20:00 |
| jeblair | #action clarkb add redirects to status.o.o on new wiki host | 20:00 |
| jeblair | ttx: thanks! it has been very helpful. | 20:01 |
| clarkb | ttx: feel free to complain at us in -infra too :) | 20:01 |
| jeblair | #endmeeting | 20:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack meetings || Development in #openstack-dev || Help in #openstack" | 20:01 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Dec 11 20:01:18 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ci/2012/ci.2012-12-11-19.04.html | 20:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ci/2012/ci.2012-12-11-19.04.txt | 20:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ci/2012/ci.2012-12-11-19.04.log.html | 20:01 |
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| ttx | clarkb: most of my complaints involved mordred anyway | 20:01 |
| ttx | and he is hiding | 20:01 |
| ttx | Who is around for the TC meeting ? | 20:01 |
| jeblair | toddmorey: and thank you too. :) | 20:01 |
| toddmorey | thanks guys. looking forward to being more involved here in the channel. | 20:02 |
| danwent | ttx: i am | 20:02 |
| markmc | me me me | 20:02 |
| ttx | that makes 3 of us. | 20:02 |
| ttx | let's see if we can reach 7 and hold a quick meeting | 20:02 |
| danwent | ttx: ok, ping me if they show up, i'll get some work done in the mean time :) | 20:03 |
| ttx | The very boring reminder did not actually ancourage everyone to join | 20:03 |
| russellb | here | 20:03 |
| ttx | 4 | 20:03 |
| ttx | mordred: around ? | 20:03 |
| russellb | we could have a gossip session about those that aren't here | 20:04 |
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| ttx | vishy, annegentf, jgriffith, bcwaldon, notmyname ? | 20:04 |
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| notmyname | here | 20:04 |
| vishy | hi | 20:05 |
| ttx | 6 | 20:05 |
| gabrielhurley | ttx: I'm here too | 20:05 |
| ttx | I knew I was missing someone | 20:05 |
| ttx | that makes 7 | 20:05 |
| * gabrielhurley feels special | 20:05 | |
| ttx | should be quick, especially if mordred is not around | 20:05 |
| ttx | #startmeeting tc | 20:05 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 11 20:05:38 2012 UTC. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:05 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:05 |
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| ttx | danwent: come back! | 20:05 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tc' | 20:05 |
| ttx | Agenda for today is (was): | 20:05 |
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| ttx | #link http://wiki.openstack.org/Governance/TechnicalCommittee | 20:05 |
| ttx | Nothing formal, only discussions | 20:06 |
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| ttx | #topic Quick update on the "Future of Incubation / core" joint committee | 20:06 |
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| ttx | markmc: want to do the update, or should I ? | 20:06 |
| markmc | well | 20:06 |
| markmc | there's not much to say, really | 20:07 |
| markmc | we had a meeting | 20:07 |
| russellb | a meeting was held, didn't cover any new ground yet | 20:07 |
| * AlanClark just noticed that the appointment for this weeks committee meeting didn't go out, goes to check webex to see why | 20:07 | |
| markmc | spent much of the time discussing the scope of the committee, the schedule of next meetings | 20:07 |
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| ttx | The BoD is represented by 3 people, so we aligned our representation to match | 20:07 |
| markmc | the basics of how incubation works | 20:07 |
| markmc | and ran out of time | 20:07 |
| ttx | Hopefully we'll cover more ground next time | 20:07 |
| markmc | prediction is that it'll take 5 or so more meetings | 20:07 |
| russellb | ttx: you're going to cover it, right? | 20:08 |
| ttx | next time should be Thursday, in case you want to join | 20:08 |
| russellb | (spot #3) | 20:08 |
| ttx | russellb: yes | 20:08 |
| russellb | ok great | 20:08 |
| markmc | another meeting this week | 20:08 |
| markmc | there's an etherpad | 20:08 |
| * markmc looks for it | 20:08 | |
| markmc | https://etherpad.openstack.org/IncUp | 20:09 |
| markmc | that's my summary :) | 20:09 |
| ttx | questions ? | 20:09 |
| ttx | Hopefully next meeting we'll have more interesting progress to report | 20:10 |
| ttx | #topic Ongoing discussion: Distro & Python 2.6/3.x support policy | 20:10 |
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| ttx | I was kinda hoping mordred would be around to make progress on that | 20:10 |
| ttx | He said he would push a clear motion to the ML to reboot the discussion | 20:11 |
| ttx | I hope he will do that before EOD tomorrow we could even vote on it next meeting, however I've had trouble cornering him lately | 20:11 |
| jgriffith | sorry...late | 20:11 |
| ttx | In his absence I don't have a lot more to add on that topic | 20:11 |
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| ttx | anything to add to that ? | 20:12 |
| ttx | #action mordred to push a clear motion to the ML to reboot the discussion on Distro & Python 2.6/3.x support policy | 20:12 |
| ttx | #topic Open discussion | 20:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: tc)" | 20:13 | |
| ttx | That's all we had on the agenda. Anything else anyone ? | 20:13 |
| ttx | FWIW the incubated projects are making good progress towards release integration | 20:14 |
| markmc | coolness | 20:14 |
| ttx | that's a lot of effort, which make sthe discussion on incubation vs. core all the more important | 20:14 |
| ttx | ok, if nobody has anything else to add... | 20:15 |
| markmc | when say a lot of effort | 20:15 |
| markmc | for the projects themselves or you, or both? | 20:15 |
| ttx | I mean, we force those projects to go through a number of hoops | 20:16 |
| ttx | I feel bad if it's all for nothing in the end | 20:16 |
| markmc | cool | 20:16 |
| ttx | so the current process really needs to be revisited to address that | 20:16 |
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| markmc | just making sure you didn't mean "incubating projects are sucking up a lot of our resources" | 20:16 |
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| ttx | markmc: no, not really. At least not on my side. They take up white space at the end of release meetings, basically | 20:17 |
| markmc | great | 20:17 |
| ttx | Not sure I could handle more than two at the same time, but it's going well | 20:17 |
| ttx | ok... 42 minutes recess, then | 20:18 |
| ttx | #endmeeting | 20:18 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Dec 11 20:18:17 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:18 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tc/2012/tc.2012-12-11-20.05.html | 20:18 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tc/2012/tc.2012-12-11-20.05.txt | 20:18 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tc/2012/tc.2012-12-11-20.05.log.html | 20:18 |
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| ttx | markmc, heckj, notmyname, bcwaldon, jgriffith, vishy, gabrielhurley, danwent: around ? | 21:00 |
| danwent | o/ | 21:00 |
| notmyname | here | 21:00 |
| markmc | yep | 21:00 |
| gabrielhurley | \o | 21:00 |
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| stevebake | \o | 21:00 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: hey | 21:00 |
| notmyname | ttx: I have to catch a plane this afternoon. can swift go first today (after the general stuff)? | 21:00 |
| ttx | notmyname: sure | 21:01 |
| notmyname | thanks | 21:01 |
| jgriffith | \o | 21:01 |
| ttx | notmyname: can even go before general announcements if you're short on time | 21:01 |
| notmyname | sure. thanks :-) | 21:01 |
| ttx | anyone from keystone ? I think heckj is in vacation | 21:02 |
| ttx | also missing vishy, but let's start | 21:02 |
| ttx | #startmeeting project | 21:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 11 21:02:24 2012 UTC. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: project)" | 21:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'project' | 21:02 |
| ttx | Agenda @ http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/ProjectMeeting | 21:02 |
| ttx | We are 10 days away from the end of the world, and 4 weeks away from grizzly-2 | 21:02 |
| annegentle_ | *snort* | 21:02 |
| ttx | #topic Swift status | 21:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Swift status (Meeting topic: project)" | 21:02 | |
| ttx | notmyname: o/ | 21:03 |
| notmyname | ttx: thanks | 21:03 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/swift/+milestone/1.7.6 | 21:03 |
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| notmyname | heh. that's rather empty :-) | 21:03 |
| Vek | one of these two things is substantially more likely than the other... | 21:03 |
| ttx | List is still a bit empty, anything you want to communicate should land / be fixed in that version ? | 21:03 |
| notmyname | I'll work on updating it this week. 1.7.6 is going to be mostly bug fixes | 21:03 |
| ttx | or that's still a bit early for that | 21:03 |
| notmyname | but we do have some interesting patches (at least proposed) | 21:03 |
| vishy | o/ | 21:03 |
| * vishy requests going early since I have to leave soon | 21:04 | |
| ttx | #action notmyname to update https://launchpad.net/swift/+milestone/1.7.6 with 1.7.6 objectives | 21:04 |
| notmyname | in talking with some contributors, I know there are some interesting features being worked on. | 21:04 |
| ttx | vishy: going on the same plane as John ? | 21:04 |
| notmyname | nope :-) | 21:04 |
| ttx | notmyname: Still shooting for mid-January ? | 21:04 |
| notmyname | yes. 1.7.6 should be mid-january. no date yet | 21:05 |
| ttx | Sounds good. | 21:05 |
| ttx | Anything more on Swift ? | 21:05 |
| notmyname | I hope to have one or 2 more releases before grizzly | 21:05 |
| notmyname | after 1.7.6 | 21:05 |
| notmyname | but if that happens or not depends on the state of the code | 21:05 |
| ttx | ack | 21:05 |
| notmyname | goal is 2 | 21:05 |
| notmyname | 1.8 and 1.8.1 | 21:05 |
| ttx | notmyname: I'll talk to you another day on the possibility to use RCs for the "final" grizzly one | 21:06 |
| notmyname | but that's not official at all. just goals | 21:06 |
| notmyname | ack | 21:06 |
| notmyname | that's all I have | 21:06 |
| ttx | vishy: wanna go now or after general announcements ? | 21:06 |
| ttx | let's do general announcements first, Nova next | 21:07 |
| ttx | #topic General announcements | 21:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "General announcements (Meeting topic: project)" | 21:07 | |
| ttx | #info Bug squash day coming this Thursday | 21:07 |
| ttx | #link http://wiki.openstack.org/BugDays/20121213BugSquashing | 21:07 |
| vishy | k | 21:07 |
| annegentle_ | o/ | 21:07 |
| ttx | If you're available, join the crowd on #openstack-bugsquash to help with advice/review | 21:07 |
| markmc | #info Nova 2012.2.2 scheduled for Thursday December 13 | 21:08 |
| markmc | #link https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/2012.2.2 | 21:08 |
| ttx | annegentle_: was the doc bug squash day any successful ? | 21:08 |
| ttx | markmc: Will also include the recent security fix that just landed on stable/folsom | 21:08 |
| annegentle_ | yes, nearly 20 doc bugs squashed in a day | 21:08 |
| markmc | ttx, yep | 21:08 |
| annegentle_ | now we are back porting to folsom as needed | 21:08 |
| annegentle_ | #info Outreach Program for Women accepted candidates announced today | 21:08 |
| annegentle_ | #link https://live.gnome.org/OutreachProgramForWomen#OpenStack | 21:08 |
| zykes- | thanks to the stable team for backporting the nova floating ip with quantum stuff! | 21:08 |
| annegentle_ | Welcome to Laura, Anita, Victora. | 21:08 |
| markmc | annegentle_, nice on both counts :) | 21:09 |
| ttx | Welcome! | 21:09 |
| ttx | markmc: did you analyze why automated testing didn't catch the stable/folsom regressions ? | 21:09 |
| markmc | annegentle_, irc nicks for them? | 21:09 |
| markmc | ttx, yes | 21:09 |
| markmc | so, 2 bugs | 21:09 |
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| ttx | markmc: any corrective actions ? | 21:09 |
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| markmc | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/folsom/+bug/1083944 | 21:09 |
| markmc | that one came after the release | 21:09 |
| annegentle_ | Anita is anteaya_i, not sure about Laura and Victoria off the top of my head. | 21:09 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1083944 in quantum/folsom "RPC exchange name defaults to 'openstack'" [Critical,In progress] | 21:09 |
| annegentle_ | blog entry forthcoming, I'll include that info | 21:10 |
| markmc | basically, unless we were testing notification consumption in the gate, it's unlikely the gate would have caught it | 21:10 |
| markmc | and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nova/+bug/1081836 | 21:10 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1081836 in nova "nova-compute (folsom) fails to start, compute_driver is None" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 21:10 |
| markmc | that wasn't caught because it was an issue with the default value of a config option | 21:10 |
| markmc | but devstack explicitly sets the value of it | 21:10 |
| markmc | so, no - don't really have suggestions for either | 21:10 |
| ttx | food for thoughts for QA folks | 21:11 |
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| ttx | mordred, annegentle, davidkranz: Anything to report from CI/QA/Docs land ? | 21:11 |
| zykes- | (clear | 21:11 |
| * annegentle_ is in training all week, off IRC mostly | 21:11 | |
| ttx | Everyone ready to go project-specific ? | 21:12 |
| comstud | yes sir | 21:12 |
| ttx | #topic Nova status | 21:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Nova status (Meeting topic: project)" | 21:12 | |
| ttx | vishy: o/ | 21:12 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/grizzly-2 | 21:12 |
| vishy | hi | 21:12 |
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| ttx | not that much visible progress since last week | 21:13 |
| ttx | Mostly due to a growing review queue, apparently ? | 21:13 |
| * Vek is intending to do a pile of reviews tomorrow, fyi | 21:13 | |
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| vishy | i have been too busy to do my normal 70 reviews /wk | 21:13 |
| russellb | i've been down on my review amounts lately, too | 21:13 |
| vishy | hope to have some time to get to some over the next couple weeks | 21:14 |
| ttx | #info Focus on review for nova-core | 21:14 |
| ttx | nova-compute-cells: how are we doing there ? | 21:14 |
| comstud | i've been sick for a week, i'm back at it today | 21:14 |
| comstud | reworked a lot.. mostly have tests left | 21:14 |
| comstud | and whatever typos i made | 21:14 |
| comstud | then the reviews will be updated | 21:15 |
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| ttx | vishy/nova-core: it's your feeling that it's relatively close now ? | 21:15 |
| comstud | there's not been a lot of new input/comments, holding off for my latest | 21:15 |
| ttx | russellb: how is version-rpc-messages doing ? | 21:16 |
| russellb | patch is up in oslo-incubator | 21:16 |
| russellb | I think it's pretty close ... i need to get it running though all the nova tests too | 21:16 |
| ttx | ok | 21:16 |
| markmc | yeah, it's very close | 21:16 |
| ttx | In other news, I've been chasing down a number of assignees to get milestone targets from them | 21:16 |
| ttx | Got answers from mostof them | 21:17 |
| ttx | devananda mentioned that some of the DB blueprints might just not hit grizzly | 21:17 |
| ttx | since he is focusing on baremetal stuff now | 21:17 |
| markmc | boo :( | 21:17 |
| ttx | vishy: he is supposed to communicate that to you while bumping some off Grizzly series goal | 21:18 |
| russellb | sad | 21:18 |
| ttx | I did not get answers (or updates) at all from Phil Day and TianTian Gao | 21:18 |
| vishy | ok that makes sense | 21:18 |
| ttx | all in all fishing for updartes was successful | 21:18 |
| ttx | updates* | 21:18 |
| ttx | That's all I had on the Nova front. We need to make good progress over the next week | 21:19 |
| vishy | cool | 21:19 |
| ttx | because I expect a slowdown at the end of December, somehow | 21:19 |
| ttx | Any question on Nova before we move on ? | 21:20 |
| ttx | #action devananda to defer Db blueprints he won't have time to cover | 21:20 |
| ttx | #topic Oslo status | 21:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Oslo status (Meeting topic: project)" | 21:21 | |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/oslo/+milestone/grizzly-2 | 21:21 |
| ttx | markmc: Almost on track... | 21:21 |
| ttx | markmc: About oslo-versioning, unfortunately mordred was nowhere to be seen today | 21:21 |
| markmc | yep, we're looking pretty good | 21:21 |
| markmc | yeah | 21:21 |
| ttx | I'll set up a meeting with him asap | 21:21 |
| markmc | I'm not really letting it block me | 21:21 |
| ttx | #action ttx to set up a meeting with mordred and markmc to make quick progress on oslo-versioning | 21:21 |
| markmc | AFAICT, we have a plan and it should just work | 21:21 |
| markmc | so it's really down to me to push ahead with oslo-config | 21:22 |
| markmc | but confirming with mordred would be good | 21:22 |
| ttx | markmc: yeah, I just want that plan outlined so that I can tell if I'm fine with it :) | 21:22 |
| markmc | ttx, cool | 21:22 |
| mordred | markmc: aroo? | 21:22 |
| mordred | reading | 21:22 |
| ttx | here he is | 21:22 |
| ttx | markmc: In other news, I'm waiting on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/17672/ to start common-rootwrap | 21:22 |
| ttx | Would appreciate your review on that | 21:22 |
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| markmc | ttx, yep, nova-core are slackers | 21:23 |
| markmc | oh wait, that's me too :( | 21:23 |
| mordred | markmc: yes, I believe we're in good shape in our plans - I would like to sync up with you to verify that my impl thoughts for it will work for you | 21:23 |
| russellb | nova-core is overwhelmed, that's what | 21:23 |
| ttx | mordred: maybe we can push that discussion offmeeting, just after this one ? | 21:23 |
| ttx | if markmc is still around | 21:23 |
| markmc | nah, I've got to disparu | 21:24 |
| markmc | mordred, quick summary ? | 21:24 |
| ttx | that doesn't sound right in any language | 21:24 |
| markmc | disparoo? | 21:24 |
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| * ttx parallelizes -- do we have someone from keystone crew to represent ? | 21:25 | |
| ttx | mordred: if you push your thoughts to ML right now, markmc might be able to confirm and me to read it today | 21:26 |
| ttx | mordred: or if it's short and quick you can do it now | 21:26 |
| ttx | ... ok, let's do Glance in the interlude | 21:27 |
| ttx | #topic Glance status | 21:27 |
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| ttx | bcwaldon: o/ | 21:27 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: hey | 21:28 |
| ttx | This is a chaotic agenda | 21:28 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/glance/+milestone/grizzly-2 | 21:28 |
| * ttx refreshes | 21:28 | |
| ttx | Not a lot of visible progress recently | 21:28 |
| bcwaldon | unfortunately little progress lately | 21:28 |
| ttx | api-v2-property-protection and glance-api-v2-image-sharing are still not started ? | 21:28 |
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| bcwaldon | we've had a few design discussions | 21:29 |
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| bcwaldon | but have been blocked on external things to actually work on them | 21:29 |
| bcwaldon | I'm still not worried about finishing them for g-2 | 21:29 |
| ttx | ok | 21:29 |
| ttx | glance-domain-logic-layer: will it be complete once that last review lands ? | 21:29 |
| ttx | review @ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/17512/ | 21:29 |
| bcwaldon | that's a question for markwash | 21:29 |
| bcwaldon | just poked him | 21:30 |
| markwash | ttx: not entirely | 21:30 |
| ttx | bcwaldon: will you have time to make good progress by next week ? Or intend to work during the holidays ? | 21:30 |
| ttx | markwash: ack | 21:30 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: holi-day? | 21:30 |
| bcwaldon | yes I will be working ;) | 21:30 |
| markwash | ttx: but it is very close, only two easier patches left | 21:31 |
| ttx | apparently some sort of evening, lasting a bit longer | 21:31 |
| ttx | ok then, I don't sense panic in you yet, so probably fine | 21:31 |
| ttx | Anything more on Glance ? | 21:31 |
| bcwaldon | not from me | 21:32 |
| ttx | Still no keystone folk ? dolphm, ayoung ? | 21:32 |
| ttx | #topic Quantum status | 21:32 |
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| ayoung | ttx I can fill in | 21:32 |
| ttx | danwent: hi! | 21:32 |
| danwent | ttx: guess you're going to have to talk to me :) | 21:32 |
| ttx | ayoung, cool, you're next | 21:32 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/quantum/+milestone/grizzly-2 | 21:33 |
| ttx | Looks on track to me... just needs some serious review work | 21:33 |
| danwent | as a general update, things are moving a bit slowly, as it seems like a lot of folks have pre-holiday internal deadlines that they are trying to hit | 21:33 |
| ayoung | yeah, we are cranking. | 21:33 |
| danwent | yes, key focus need to be on clearly several big reviews a week from here on out | 21:33 |
| ttx | quantum-db-upgrades: how is that going ? | 21:34 |
| danwent | overally, seems managable, as long as we don't fall off a holiday cliff :) | 21:34 |
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| danwent | ttx: its been "about to be posted for review" for over a week now. this is one of the items stalled due to other internal projects. I'm confident mark will have it up soon. | 21:34 |
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| ttx | ok | 21:34 |
| danwent | and his stuff is always super high quality when it hits the review | 21:34 |
| ttx | danwent: There was also this question for vishy and you about nova-network deprecation | 21:35 |
| danwent | so it tends to get reviewed and merged quickly. | 21:35 |
| ttx | on the ML @ http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2012-December/003860.html | 21:35 |
| ttx | Is the idea still *not* to mark nova-net deprecated in Grizzly ? | 21:35 |
| danwent | ttx: yes, nova-network will be fully supported in grizzly | 21:35 |
| danwent | sorry, if it doesn't have quantum in the subject-line, i tend to miss things on the ML | 21:36 |
| ttx | danwent: ok, maybe drop a quick note on that thread | 21:36 |
| danwent | sure | 21:36 |
| ttx | danwent: yes, that's why I mention it | 21:36 |
| ttx | That's all I had. Anything else on Quantum, anyone ? | 21:36 |
| danwent | maybe i'll update my filter to include "network" :) | 21:36 |
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| ttx | sounds risky | 21:37 |
| danwent | :) | 21:37 |
| ttx | #topic Keystone status | 21:37 |
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| ttx | ayoung: o/ | 21:37 |
| ttx | Thanks for filling in | 21:37 |
| ayoung | No problem. | 21:37 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/grizzly-2 | 21:37 |
| ayoung | We had a pretty long discussion over the groups implementation earlier today. | 21:38 |
| ayoung | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/user-groups | 21:38 |
| ayoung | We should have a proof of concept/reference implementation posted shortly | 21:38 |
| ttx | Yeah, some progress since last week, but I'd say this is falling a bit behind due to impl discussions | 21:38 |
| ttx | around user-groups and trusts | 21:39 |
| ttx | about trusts: is that making progress ? It looks like it's still on the drawing table (which is not necessarily a bad thing) | 21:39 |
| ttx | but maybe that means it's more likely to land in g3 ? | 21:39 |
| ttx | (trying to set expectations right) | 21:39 |
| ayoung | I think we are ok. I have an Impl of trusts, but need to rebase it on the code review... | 21:39 |
| ayoung | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/17782/ | 21:39 |
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| ttx | ayoung: so that lengthy thread converged to a solution that was acceptable for everyone ? | 21:40 |
| ttx | ayoung: or that covers something else ? | 21:40 |
| ayoung | Trusts are not that hard. They are just another way to generate tokens. Getting them in required working out a circular dependency issue. I still need to get dolph's blessing. That is on the short list for this week | 21:40 |
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| ayoung | long thread? You mean about groups? | 21:41 |
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| ttx | ayoung: the one on preauthed tokens | 21:41 |
| ayoung | ttx, yes, we are OK with the approach | 21:41 |
| ayoung | some quibbling over naming, but I think we are going to keep the name trusts | 21:42 |
| ttx | eh, ok | 21:42 |
| ttx | Anything more about Keystone ? | 21:42 |
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| ayoung | we still need to finish the V3 api.. | 21:42 |
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| ttx | ayoung: is that covered by a blueprint somewhere ? | 21:43 |
| ayoung | Oh, and the Keyring support. We are going to document clearly what the intention is with that | 21:43 |
| ayoung | ttx, V3? Yes. | 21:43 |
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| ttx | ayoung: not sure it appears as clearly though | 21:43 |
| ttx | ayoung: if you have a pointer to it, I could use that | 21:44 |
| ttx | ok, got to move on | 21:44 |
| ttx | #topic Cinder status | 21:44 |
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| ttx | jgriffith: hi! | 21:44 |
| jgriffith | howdy | 21:44 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/cinder/+milestone/grizzly-2 | 21:44 |
| jgriffith | getting there, expect a few more to close in the next couple of days | 21:44 |
| ttx | Not too bad, but not much progress since last week | 21:44 |
| ttx | ok, great | 21:45 |
| jgriffith | ttx: yeah, it became earily quiet after Friday :) | 21:45 |
| ttx | About local-storage: still no news ? | 21:45 |
| jgriffith | No... I've got that and volume_backups targetted for removal tomorrow | 21:45 |
| jgriffith | pending the cinder meeting | 21:45 |
| ttx | ok, sounds good | 21:45 |
| ttx | That's all I had for you | 21:46 |
| ttx | Anything more in Cinder ? | 21:46 |
| ttx | #topic Horizon status | 21:46 |
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| ttx | gabrielhurley: hey | 21:47 |
| gabrielhurley | hi | 21:47 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/grizzly-2 | 21:47 |
| ttx | Same as others, slow progress overall | 21:47 |
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| gabrielhurley | some progress on blueprints from me, and one bumped out (the implementor doesn't think it'll be done by the close of G2) | 21:47 |
| gabrielhurley | lots of good bugfixes in review, though, and only one or two new bugs | 21:47 |
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| gabrielhurley | I'm gonna coordinate with the quantum team more closely to figure out what's happening with Quantum + Horizon in G2/G3 | 21:48 |
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| ttx | sounds good | 21:48 |
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| gabrielhurley | If nthing else G2 may be a les feature rich but more bugfix-y milestone | 21:48 |
| gabrielhurley | I still have hopes that I'll be able to hack a bunch later this month | 21:49 |
| ttx | yes, that's a decent buglist | 21:49 |
| gabrielhurley | eh, I just roll the bugs I think are important from release to release | 21:49 |
| ttx | Anything more on Horizon ? | 21:49 |
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| ttx | gabrielhurley: suggestion: work on them this Thursday ! | 21:49 |
| gabrielhurley | indeed | 21:49 |
| ttx | yay for bug squashing day ! | 21:49 |
| ttx | #topic Incubated projects | 21:50 |
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| ttx | Anyone from Ceilometer team ? | 21:50 |
| ttx | stevebake: still around ? | 21:50 |
| stevebake | yop | 21:50 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/heat/+milestone/grizzly-2 | 21:50 |
| stevebake | ttx.py ran cleanly | 21:51 |
| ttx | If I read this correctly you're feature-complete for g2 already ? | 21:51 |
| stevebake | yes, focusing on testing, bugs, docs, packaging | 21:51 |
| ttx | or that's incomplete :) | 21:51 |
| ttx | ok, great | 21:51 |
| ttx | You still don't have a heat-tarball Jenkins job set up so I can't integrate you to common release management yet | 21:51 |
| stevebake | resourcing will be messy until g-2 thanks to holidays | 21:51 |
| ttx | Did you push that request to the CI team ? | 21:51 |
| stevebake | ttx: just yesterday, waiting for a review | 21:52 |
| ttx | stevebake: link ? | 21:52 |
| stevebake | hmm, actually that was only for python-heatclient https://review.openstack.org/#/c/17811/ | 21:52 |
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| stevebake | I'll look into heat-tarball stuff | 21:53 |
| ttx | ok, don't hesitate to ping CI folk on #openstack-infra for help/guidance | 21:53 |
| ttx | I might have to set a milestoen code to g2 at some point to support that | 21:54 |
| ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/grizzly looks good to me | 21:54 |
| annegentle_ | stevebake: your team is one of the ones with docs on the wiki, is that right? Wanted to be sure you saw the email about the wiki migration. | 21:54 |
| stevebake | Does anyone have suggestion for first steps in getting heat into ppa:openstack-ubuntu-testing/grizzly-trunk-testing ? | 21:54 |
| annegentle_ | stevebake: we can work on a "doc plan" more to get out of the wiki as you keep moving forward | 21:55 |
| stevebake | annegentle_: yes, mostly reachable from http://wiki.openstack.org/Heat | 21:55 |
| stevebake | that would be very much appreciated | 21:55 |
| ttx | stevebake: contacting jamespage would be a start. Not sure they would cover non-core stuff just yet. Do they have ceilometer in ? | 21:55 |
| stevebake | ceilometer is in | 21:55 |
| * nijaba confirms | 21:56 | |
| ttx | stevebake: ok, then I guess they could consider heat as well. Ask jamespage | 21:56 |
| stevebake | annegentle_: I saw ceilo has some docs action happening too | 21:56 |
| ttx | nijaba: rady to talk Ceilometer ? | 21:56 |
| ttx | ready* | 21:56 |
| annegentle_ | #action annegentle_ to reach out to Heat (stevebake) via email re: doc plan | 21:56 |
| nijaba | ttx: I just got heat packaged in debian, could help | 21:56 |
| nijaba | ttx: sure | 21:56 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/ceilometer/+milestone/grizzly-2 | 21:56 |
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| ttx | Looks on track to me. Who is planning to work on provide-meter-units ? | 21:57 |
| nijaba | guillaume pernot is on it | 21:57 |
| ttx | jamespage: see stevebake request above | 21:57 |
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| jamespage | ttx: ack | 21:57 |
| ttx | nijaba: maybe add him as assignee then | 21:57 |
| ttx | nijaba: Your CI jobs are now up to par afaict, ready for me to handle your g2 milestone if you wish | 21:57 |
| nijaba | will do as soon as the bp is finished and approved | 21:57 |
| ttx | To do that I'll need some of your time on that milestone week, as described in: | 21:57 |
| ttx | #link http://wiki.openstack.org/PTLguide#Special_actions_on_Milestone_delivery_week | 21:58 |
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| ttx | (should be no issue given that we share a timezone) | 21:58 |
| nijaba | ack | 21:58 |
| ttx | I would push it after the core projects release, and ping you so that you can make the announcement yourself | 21:58 |
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| nijaba | great, thanks a lot | 21:58 |
| ttx | Looking at Ceilometer general grizzly plan now: | 21:58 |
| ttx | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ceilometer/grizzly | 21:58 |
| ttx | Still a few "unknown" status and missing priorities | 21:59 |
| nijaba | yes, we have been concrentrating on g2 | 21:59 |
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| ttx | Also don't forget to set the series goal to "grizzly" for stuff that is targeted (for example, multi-publisher) | 21:59 |
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| ttx | otherwise the per-series and per-milestone views are not coherent | 21:59 |
| nijaba | k | 21:59 |
| ttx | nijaba, stevebake: any quick question before we wrap up ? | 21:59 |
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| stevebake | all good | 22:00 |
| nijaba | all good here | 22:00 |
| ttx | cool | 22:00 |
| ttx | #endmeeting | 22:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Dec 11 22:00:15 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/project/2012/project.2012-12-11-21.02.html | 22:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/project/2012/project.2012-12-11-21.02.txt | 22:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/project/2012/project.2012-12-11-21.02.log.html | 22:00 |
| ttx | gabrielhurley: floor is yours. | 22:00 |
| nijaba | thanks ttx | 22:00 |
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| gabrielhurley | thanks | 22:01 |
| gabrielhurley | #startmeeting horizon | 22:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 11 22:01:30 2012 UTC. The chair is gabrielhurley. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 22:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' | 22:01 |
| gabrielhurley | Hello folks. Welcome to the Horizon project meeting. | 22:01 |
| gabrielhurley | If there are any quantum folks in the channel, I'd love it if you could stick around for a couple minutes. | 22:02 |
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| gabrielhurley | we'll do the same as last time, general status, blueprints and bugs, open discussion | 22:03 |
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| gabrielhurley | #topic General Horizon Status | 22:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "General Horizon Status (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 22:03 | |
| gabrielhurley | oh, this will serve as recap of actions from last meeting too | 22:03 |
| gabrielhurley | so last meeting I was supposed to do two things: talk to ceilometer, and talk to quantum, I've done one of the two | 22:04 |
| gabrielhurley | I haven't talked to ceilometer, so I need to carry that action forward | 22:04 |
| gabrielhurley | #action gabrielhurley to talk to ceilometer team about moving message "subscription" code into oslo | 22:04 |
| gabrielhurley | As far as Quantum goes, it looks like there hasn't been heavy priority from the Quantum team on Horizon/interface concerns in G2. Most of the blueprints in Quantum haven't been started. | 22:05 |
| gabrielhurley | Consequently there's been little forward progress on my side as well. | 22:05 |
| gabrielhurley | danwent: still around? | 22:06 |
| mrunge | ... and how should an interface for quantum should look like? | 22:06 |
| gabrielhurley | there's already support for basic management of networks, subnets and ports... lemme find the list of Quantum BPs | 22:06 |
| mrunge | yes, that's right | 22:06 |
| danwent | gabrielhurley: around | 22:07 |
| gabrielhurley | ah, hi dan | 22:07 |
| gabrielhurley | darnit, the list won't format nicely, but these are the ones Quantum has targeted: · https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/improve-quantum-summary-table · https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/quantum-floating-ip · https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/quantum-l3-support · https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/quantum-network-topology · | 22:07 |
| gabrielhurley | there's 6 of them | 22:07 |
| danwent | to me, the floatingips, l3-support, and interface ordering are the most important | 22:08 |
| danwent | (I didn't see that last one posted) | 22:08 |
| danwent | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/quantum-vnic-ordering | 22:08 |
| danwent | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/quantum-security-group | 22:08 |
| gabrielhurley | the vnic ordering https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/quantum-vnic-ordering relies on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/orderable-mutiple-choice-field in horizon | 22:08 |
| danwent | gabrielhurley: we are trying to hire someone to work on quantum + horizon stuff | 22:09 |
| gabrielhurley | so those two may slip to G3 unless somebody from the Quantum team can champion that. Sadly there isn't a quick off-the-shelf django form widget that'll work for what we need there. | 22:09 |
| danwent | if you know of any good leads, please have them contact me | 22:09 |
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| gabrielhurley | good to know. I'll let you know. | 22:09 |
| gabrielhurley | The Quantum security groups one should be a much easier change provided the work there is done in quantum | 22:10 |
| danwent | gabrielhurley: i am going to push amotoki and nati_ueno to give quantum + horizon some love in G-2, so you don't get dumped on by them in G-3 :) | 22:10 |
| gabrielhurley | I'm perfectly happy to do the reviews whenever they've got the time to drop things in | 22:10 |
| danwent | gabrielhurley: great, thanks. | 22:10 |
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| gabrielhurley | danwent: just keep in touch on how those are progressing. | 22:11 |
| gabrielhurley | We've already talked about blueprints some, but moving on... | 22:11 |
| gabrielhurley | #topic Blueprints and bugs | 22:11 |
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| danwent | gabrielhurley: will do. i'm now going to have a weekly check-in from them during our team meeting on monday | 22:11 |
| gabrielhurley | great | 22:11 |
| gabrielhurley | I made some progress on the one-click "simple" floating IP management blueprint. there's a code review up for that. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/17772/ | 22:12 |
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| gabrielhurley | I also investigated the work involved in an orderable multiple choice field for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/orderable-mutiple-choice-field | 22:12 |
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| gabrielhurley | and determined that it was gonna be a bit of a pain (moreso than expected) | 22:13 |
| gabrielhurley | my notes/thoughts are on the whiteboard there | 22:13 |
| gabrielhurley | I also talked to Ray Sun about the per-project flavors blueprint and he indicated it would likely land in G3 since he's been very busy lately. | 22:13 |
| gabrielhurley | So I bumped that one forward. | 22:13 |
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| gabrielhurley | Otherwise there hasn't been any significant changes in the BPs that I'm aware of. | 22:13 |
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| gabrielhurley | jpich: any updates on the migrate instance blueprint? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/migrate-instance | 22:14 |
| jpich | gabrielhurley: I have the functionality working, but need to polish the user experience | 22:15 |
| gabrielhurley | awesome | 22:15 |
| gabrielhurley | glad to hear it | 22:15 |
| jpich | gabrielhurley: it should be all in time for g-2 | 22:15 |
| gabrielhurley | let me know if you need any advice, or feel free to push draft versions to github/gerrit | 22:15 |
| jpich | gabrielhurley: Thanks, I will do that | 22:15 |
| gabrielhurley | great | 22:15 |
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| gabrielhurley | so in terms of bugs, we had lots of good bugfix reviews this week, thanks everyone for that | 22:16 |
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| gabrielhurley | All the "high" bugs are either in progress or fixed | 22:16 |
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| gabrielhurley | nothing new of consequence | 22:16 |
| mrunge | great to hear :D | 22:16 |
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| gabrielhurley | I know people are working on more fixes which will be proposed this week too... not that it applies to the peope who I know are listening, but don't forget to update the bug statuses in launchpad when you're working on something. | 22:17 |
| gabrielhurley | Any other notes on bugs from folks? | 22:17 |
| gabrielhurley | #topic General discussion | 22:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "General discussion (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 22:17 | |
| gabrielhurley | I don't have a huge amount to discuss overall today, so questions and comments are welcome. | 22:18 |
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| * gabrielhurley gives it a minute or two | 22:19 | |
| jpich | General FYI: we have an OpenStack intern for OPW who has been accepted and is interested in working on Horizon, Victory / vkmc - https://live.gnome.org/OutreachProgramForWomen | 22:19 |
| zykes- | gabrielhurley: going to land reddwarf support or ? | 22:19 |
| gabrielhurley | ah, very cool! | 22:19 |
| gabrielhurley | zykes-: I don't know anything about it | 22:19 |
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| zykes- | awww | 22:19 |
| gabrielhurley | I know what reddwarf is | 22:19 |
| gabrielhurley | just not about work being done to integrate wiht horizon | 22:19 |
| zykes- | :) | 22:19 |
| gabrielhurley | do you have an update on that? | 22:19 |
| zykes- | nopp | 22:20 |
| zykes- | just wondering :) | 22:20 |
| gabrielhurley | lol | 22:20 |
| gabrielhurley | no worries | 22:20 |
| gabrielhurley | It shouldn't be too hard, but since it's not even incubated yet I haven't been looking at it specifically | 22:20 |
| jpich | (self-correction, "Victoria", not Victory, sorry) | 22:20 |
| gabrielhurley | might be even easier if I can land https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/resource-introspection | 22:20 |
| zykes- | how come gabrielhurley ? | 22:20 |
| gabrielhurley | jpich: is there anything I can do to help with the intern? | 22:20 |
| gabrielhurley | zykes-: it'd just reduce the amount of code that'd need to be written to make reddwarf work for the basics | 22:21 |
| zykes- | ah | 22:21 |
| jpich | gabrielhurley: When you have time, I'd like to discuss with you and her what might be a nice blueprint for her to focus on during the 3 months she'll be with us | 22:21 |
| gabrielhurley | great. will do. | 22:22 |
| jpich | gabrielhurley: I thought perhaps https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/tenant-deletion might fit, though there's a risk of it not making grizzly | 22:22 |
| gabrielhurley | ah, yeah, that'd be good | 22:22 |
| gabrielhurley | anything else from anybody? | 22:23 |
| jpich | gabrielhurley: Cool, I'll catch you by email about it later | 22:24 |
| gabrielhurley | great. I'll let y'all get back to your day, then. :-) | 22:24 |
| gabrielhurley | #endmeeting | 22:24 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Dec 11 22:24:20 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:24 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2012/horizon.2012-12-11-22.01.html | 22:24 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2012/horizon.2012-12-11-22.01.txt | 22:24 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2012/horizon.2012-12-11-22.01.log.html | 22:24 |
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| vkmc | hi! | 22:36 |
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| annegentle_ | vkmc: hey! Welcome! | 22:37 |
| vkmc | annegentle_, hi there! thx :) | 22:37 |
| vkmc | annegentle_, i'm afraid i'm too late for the meeting, i've just read about it | 22:38 |
| annegentle_ | vkmc: no worries :) I think they just started weekly this week anyway! | 22:38 |
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| annegentle_ | vkmc: The Horizon meeting is at the bottom of this list, for future reference http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings | 22:39 |
| vkmc | annegentle_, right :) well, i'll add it to my schedule :) i would really like to get more involved with the community | 22:39 |
| annegentle_ | vkmc: we'll get you there! | 22:40 |
| vkmc | annegentle_, nice! | 22:40 |
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| jpich | vkmc: Hi! Sorry for the reaaally short notice, I'll do better next time :) | 22:44 |
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