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| renuka | hello, are the volume folks present for the meeting? | 18:01 |
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| jdg | John-G is here... | 18:02 |
| renuka | #startmeeting | 18:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Dec 15 18:03:14 2011 UTC. The chair is renuka. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | 18:03 |
| renuka | so i just wanted to ask whether everyone else still felt the need for weekly meetings | 18:03 |
| renuka | because it appears that very few people can make this time slot | 18:04 |
| jdg | Seems like it may not be worthwhile at this point. | 18:04 |
| renuka | but i guess it makes more sense to ask this on the mailing list, because there isn't anyone here ;) | 18:04 |
| jdg | I was wondering however, is there any need to talk about the new API works that's been proposed? | 18:04 |
| jdg | :) Good point | 18:05 |
| renuka | right, so i think we can leave the rest of the conversation to the mailing list, unless you had anything | 18:05 |
| jdg | Nope, the only thing I had was the question regarding the volume specific API work. | 18:06 |
| jdg | Don't know if you had any info on that? | 18:06 |
| renuka | not really, i think it ought to be disucssed at some point. | 18:06 |
| jdg | Ok, probably when there's more than just you and I here :) Again, maybe the mailing list to kick things off. | 18:06 |
| renuka | So i am on vacation for the next 3 weeks, I was wondering if someone else would like to volunteer to do the meetings for that time | 18:07 |
| jdg | Alright, well that was short | 18:07 |
| jdg | I'd be happy to chair | 18:07 |
| renuka | great | 18:07 |
| jdg | Then I'll be the only one present | 18:07 |
| jdg | Alright, enjoy your vacation, talk to you in a few weeks. | 18:07 |
| renuka | #info jdg to chair the volume meetings (if required) for the next 3 weeks, until Jan 12, 2012 | 18:08 |
| renuka | hehe | 18:08 |
| renuka | #endmeeting | 18:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Openstack Meetings: http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/" | 18:08 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Dec 15 18:08:41 2011 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:08 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-12-15-18.03.html | 18:08 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-12-15-18.03.txt | 18:08 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-12-15-18.03.log.html | 18:08 |
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| troytoman | mtaylor: what limit are you seeing? are you being rate limited on API ops or on the number/size of servers? | 19:49 |
| mtaylor | jeblair: ^^ | 19:49 |
| mtaylor | troytoman: number of servers, I believe | 19:49 |
| mtaylor | troytoman: we're creating/destroying a lot of them now that we're running devstack commit | 19:49 |
| troytoman | mtaylor, jeblair: just want to adjust the right thing. we limit number of creations in a 24 hr period and we limit total capacity. | 19:51 |
| mtaylor | troytoman: I _think_ it's going to be the number of creations in a 24hr period | 19:51 |
| troytoman | mtaylor, jeblair: suspect you might be hitting POST limit if you are spinning things up and down | 19:51 |
| mtaylor | troytoman: most of them should really only be living for an hour or less | 19:52 |
| jeblair | well | 19:52 |
| jeblair | it depends on the number of errors. we want to keep vms that have an error around for 24 hours for debugging | 19:52 |
| mtaylor | good point | 19:53 |
| troytoman | mtaylor, jeblair: i think the default POST limit is 50/day. any sense on what you need it to be? | 19:53 |
| jeblair | so _right now_ it said "413 Request Entity Too Large Customer can not create any additional cloud servers." and we had exactly 50 at the time (created over the course of 24 hours) | 19:53 |
| troytoman | jeblair: ok, i think that is the POST limit. how many servers do you need to create in a 24 hour period? | 19:54 |
| jeblair | lemme see if i can swag a number. | 19:54 |
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| troytoman | jeblair: how about we double the number and see how that works? | 19:58 |
| jeblair | so it would be based on the number of changes to all openstack projects in a day, which is hard to find right now, but i feel like 200 should cover us. | 19:59 |
| jeblair | sorry, i have to run, back in a bit | 20:00 |
| sandywalsh | anyone here for orchestration | 20:01 |
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| troytoman | mtaylor, jeblair: consider it handled (or at least on the way to being handled.) | 20:02 |
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| maoy_ | test | 20:03 |
| sandywalsh | hey | 20:04 |
| sandywalsh | troytoman, you guys still in progress here? | 20:04 |
| maoy_ | hi sandy | 20:04 |
| sandywalsh | o/ | 20:04 |
| sandywalsh | I don't have any agenda for today ... still trying to wrap up the Capacity branch | 20:04 |
| troytoman | sorry, i was on the wrong channel (resume scheduled programming) | 20:04 |
| sandywalsh | :) | 20:04 |
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| sandywalsh | unless anyone has anything pressing I'd like to push off until next week when, hopefully, we can have the Capacity branch landed | 20:05 |
| maoy_ | i just came back from a trip. no progress here. i do have some question.. | 20:05 |
| sandywalsh | sure, shoot ... | 20:06 |
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| sandywalsh | btw> here's the work in progress: https://github.com/SandyWalsh/nova/tree/new_capacity | 20:06 |
| maoy_ | the notifier service | 20:06 |
| maoy_ | who consumes from it now? | 20:06 |
| maoy_ | also, if there is a network problem, or the node crashed, there won't be an exception notified to anyone, right? | 20:07 |
| sandywalsh | currently people are using Yagi to listen to the notification queues and process the events | 20:08 |
| sandywalsh | https://github.com/Cerberus98/yagi/tree/ | 20:08 |
| sandywalsh | right, only failed operations generate events ... failed nodes can't | 20:09 |
| sandywalsh | we have to depend on network monitoring tools, snmp, etc to do that | 20:09 |
| maoy_ | is yagi consumers in the code base now? | 20:09 |
| sandywalsh | so, basically, it only generates events for python bugs | 20:10 |
| sandywalsh | yagi is a separate project (link above) | 20:10 |
| sandywalsh | it doesn't require nova ... it can work with anything AMQP based | 20:10 |
| sandywalsh | (though it was written for nova) | 20:10 |
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| maoy_ | but fault management should be part of the orchestration, right? | 20:11 |
| maoy_ | so eventually it will be integrated? | 20:11 |
| sandywalsh | I think it will need to be at some point, yes | 20:11 |
| maoy_ | got it | 20:11 |
| sandywalsh | so, I'm going to write up a little more on that "error handling" post I wrote a while back ... it's still a big concern for me | 20:12 |
| sandywalsh | and I need to review the State Transition branch that just landed in trunk recently | 20:12 |
| sandywalsh | that'll have an effect on orchestration | 20:12 |
| maoy_ | yes | 20:12 |
| sandywalsh | other than that ... nothing else to report here | 20:12 |
| maoy_ | i didn't know it landed | 20:12 |
| sandywalsh | head-down, coding | 20:12 |
| maoy_ | good to know | 20:12 |
| maoy_ | thx | 20:13 |
| maoy_ | i guess we are in holiday season | 20:13 |
| maoy_ | not many folks here | 20:13 |
| sandywalsh | yes, if we're not chatting next week have a great break! | 20:13 |
| maoy_ | i'll probably make more response on the ML | 20:13 |
| maoy_ | you too.. | 20:13 |
| sandywalsh | cheers! | 20:13 |
| maoy_ | do we abandon the nova-orch ML? | 20:13 |
| maoy_ | everyone uses the main ML? | 20:14 |
| sandywalsh | seems to be the plan ... just use [Orchestration] to the broad list | 20:14 |
| mikeyp | cheers , and happy holidays if we don't catch up next week. | 20:14 |
| sandywalsh | likewise mikeyp | 20:14 |
| maoy_ | you too mikeyp | 20:14 |
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