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| rosmaita | Courtesy reminder: Cinder meeting in #openstack-meeting-4 at 1400 UTC | 13:59 |
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| rosmaita | jungleboyj rosmaita smcginnis tosky whoami-rajat m5z e0ne geguileo eharney walshh_ jbernard lseki sfernand rajinir ^^ | 13:59 |
| rajinir | o/ | 13:59 |
| LiangFang | o/ | 13:59 |
| m5z | hi =] | 13:59 |
| geguileo | hi! o/ | 13:59 |
| rosmaita | #startmeeting cinder | 14:00 |
| lseki | o/ | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 18 14:00:00 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rosmaita. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' | 14:00 |
| e0ne | hi | 14:00 |
| whoami-rajat | Hi | 14:00 |
| rosmaita | #topic roll call | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:00 | |
| rosmaita | i guess the roll call is kind of pointless at this point | 14:00 |
| rosmaita | hello everyone | 14:00 |
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| rosmaita | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-ussuri-meetings | 14:00 |
| whoami-rajat | the roll call is over before the roll call :D | 14:01 |
| jungleboyj | o/ | 14:01 |
| sfernand | hi | 14:01 |
| rosmaita | #topic announcements | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:01 | |
| walshh_ | hi | 14:01 |
| rosmaita | first up | 14:02 |
| smcginnis | o/ | 14:02 |
| rosmaita | ttx is cleaning up the IRC channels and meetings, you may have seen his email | 14:02 |
| rosmaita | this meeting room is going to be a casualty of that effort | 14:02 |
| rosmaita | it will probably no longer exist next week | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | so, we will be moving to meeting room #openstack-meeting-alt for next week | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | the time WILL NOT CHANGE | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | just the location | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | i will send out a reminder and put a note in #openstack-cinder next week | 14:03 |
| whoami-rajat | rosmaita, thanks for the heads up | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | just be aware that if you try to connect to -meeting-4, it may not exist! | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | next topic | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | we had the second session of the virtual mid-cycle on monday | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | thanks to all who attended | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | jungleboyj posted the recording onto the cinder youtube channel | 14:05 |
| jungleboyj | woot woot. | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | #link https://youtu.be/cA_VfYnS77o | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | and there's a summary available | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CinderUssuriMidCycleSummary#Session_Two:_16_March_2020 | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | one last announcement, i will be putting up release patches for stable/stein and stable/train later this week | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | so please check if there's anything that you'd like to propose for backport | 14:06 |
| jungleboyj | rosmaita: Thanks for getting the summary and everything put together so quickly. | 14:06 |
| * rosmaita blushes | 14:06 | |
| jungleboyj | rosmaita: Are there many patches waiting on approval? | 14:06 |
| jungleboyj | :-) | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | i don't think so, but i got distracted this morning and didn't look | 14:07 |
| jungleboyj | Ok. I will take a look. | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | cool | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | ok, that's all for announcements, other than i hope everyone is staying healthy in these stressful times | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | #topic initial import of devstack-plugin-open-cas | 14:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "initial import of devstack-plugin-open-cas (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:08 | |
| rosmaita | LiangFang has been busy! | 14:08 |
| rosmaita | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/713173/ | 14:08 |
| LiangFang | hi | 14:08 |
| LiangFang | I have prepared the initial | 14:08 |
| LiangFang | and I think I need to add tempest job | 14:09 |
| LiangFang | I take a look of devstack-plugin-ceph | 14:09 |
| LiangFang | seems I need to add tempest test cases in cinder-tempest-plugin | 14:10 |
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| LiangFang | and then TEMPEST_PLUGINS: '/opt/stack/cinder-tempest-plugin' | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | you mean in .zuul.yaml ? | 14:11 |
| LiangFang | yes | 14:11 |
| LiangFang | not sure i'm correct or not | 14:11 |
| rosmaita | i'm not sure either | 14:12 |
| LiangFang | i will try to test this way | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | but we don' t need to wait until we figure it out to get the repo merged | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | you have some basic tests there of the plugin itself | 14:12 |
| smcginnis | I haven't had a chance to actually stack with that plugin. I'm assuming you have and it all works LiangFang? | 14:12 |
| LiangFang | yes, i use github repo | 14:13 |
| LiangFang | and it can work when ./stach.sh | 14:13 |
| LiangFang | it installed and uninstall open-cas normally | 14:13 |
| smcginnis | Perfect, thanks. | 14:14 |
| LiangFang | github repo is same with this repo in code | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | great, that's a good start | 14:14 |
| LiangFang | next, I need to add tempest test | 14:15 |
| smcginnis | I think the tempest test can be a follow up. Just my opinion. Might be good to get the code in place so the repo is there, then enhance it with better testing. | 14:15 |
| LiangFang | but I think i can add in next patch | 14:15 |
| LiangFang | smcginnis: agreed, thanks | 14:16 |
| e0ne | smcginnis: +1 | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | i agree with smcginnis, will be good to have this in place and then we can work with it | 14:16 |
| LiangFang | +1 | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | plus, i think it can't actually break anything at this point | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | :) | 14:16 |
| LiangFang | no code referenced to this repo correctly I think | 14:17 |
| rosmaita | right, that will be the next step | 14:18 |
| rosmaita | thanks, LiangFang ... anything else? | 14:18 |
| LiangFang | when I do test, I just add in local.conf | 14:18 |
| LiangFang | enable_plugin devstack-plugin-open-cas https://... | 14:18 |
| rosmaita | yes, i think that's the standard way to enable a plugin | 14:19 |
| LiangFang | sorry I have not attend the virtual PTG meeting because my daught got fever | 14:19 |
| rosmaita | hope she's OK | 14:19 |
| rosmaita | my daughter also woke up with a fever this morning :( | 14:20 |
| LiangFang | yes, she's OK now, thanks. that's all from me | 14:20 |
| jungleboyj | rosmaita: ++ | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | ok, great | 14:20 |
| jungleboyj | rosmaita: Hope your daughter is ok. | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | yeah, just a low-grade fever at this point, so normally noting to worry about | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | *nothing | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | #topic os-reset_status notifications not going to the standard publisher | 14:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "os-reset_status notifications not going to the standard publisher (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:21 | |
| rosmaita | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/708563/ | 14:21 |
| rosmaita | hemna has ^^ up | 14:21 |
| rosmaita | it looks ok to me | 14:21 |
| rosmaita | but i just wanted to ask whether anyone knows of a reason why those notifications weren't going to the standard queues for cinder? | 14:22 |
| eharney | do we have any general documentation on how these notifications work? | 14:22 |
| smcginnis | ^ | 14:22 |
| smcginnis | I think we've had issues from time to time with notifications because not many people even are aware of them. | 14:22 |
| eharney | it wasn't really obvious to me why, for instance, snapshot notifications should go to a different publisher than volumes | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | i couldn't find anything | 14:24 |
| tosky | it's a repository | 14:24 |
| tosky | oh, sorry, ignore me | 14:24 |
| rosmaita | tosky: was waiting for you to elaborate | 14:25 |
| rosmaita | :) | 14:25 |
| rosmaita | so yeah, i don't have an answer to eric's question | 14:25 |
| rosmaita | i guess the thing to do now is to make these consistent with the others | 14:26 |
| smcginnis | Well, we can use git blame to find the commits that added the notifications. I'm guessing will just find that whoever added them just didn't know how things are supposed to work. | 14:26 |
| smcginnis | The tricky part will be that now there may be some consumers looking for these notifications in different places. | 14:26 |
| smcginnis | So I guess if we change any of them, we need to at least be very clear in the release notes about it. | 14:26 |
| rosmaita | sorry, was just looking at that patch | 14:28 |
| rosmaita | yes, i agree about the release note being beefed up a bit | 14:28 |
| rosmaita | i guess we could also send an email to [ops] requesting comments | 14:29 |
| smcginnis | Not a bad idea. | 14:29 |
| rosmaita | i'll do that | 14:29 |
| jungleboyj | Yeah, I am having trouble following the release note. Trying to suggest improvement there now. | 14:29 |
| rosmaita | #action rosmaita email to [operators] about change to publishing queue for os-reset_status notifications | 14:30 |
| rosmaita | ok, thanks ... if anyone has second thoughts or sudden recollections, please comment on the patch | 14:30 |
| rosmaita | this next topic is exciting | 14:31 |
| rosmaita | #topic new job to test Active/Active HA | 14:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "new job to test Active/Active HA (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:31 | |
| rosmaita | e0ne: that's you | 14:31 |
| e0ne | :) | 14:31 |
| jungleboyj | That is exciting. | 14:31 |
| e0ne | to be clear, I'm not proposing adding any new tests now :) | 14:31 |
| e0ne | everything I propose is to add a regular tempest tests with cinder plugin | 14:32 |
| e0ne | so it will find such bugs as https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1867906 | 14:32 |
| e0ne | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1867906 | 14:32 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1867906 in Cinder "group-create-from-src doesn't work in active/active mode" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Ivan Kolodyazhny (e0ne) | 14:32 |
| jungleboyj | Ah, sounds like a good idea. | 14:33 |
| e0ne | I know that geguileo was going to create some active/active-specific test framework.. it's also great idea | 14:33 |
| geguileo | e0ne: yeah, that's on hold and I don't expect to be able to work on that for a while... :-( | 14:34 |
| e0ne | but with a limited capacity I would like to have tempest run to be sure that A/A doesn't break anything | 14:34 |
| e0ne | geguileo: :( | 14:34 |
| smcginnis | Any additional testing would definitely be an improvement. | 14:34 |
| smcginnis | I'm still concerned that we have this feature in there with no real way of knowing it works right. | 14:35 |
| smcginnis | Other than that geguileo has run some things locally. :) | 14:35 |
| e0ne | smcginnis: +1 | 14:35 |
| e0ne | smcginnis: we're going to use it in our distro | 14:35 |
| eharney | as are we | 14:36 |
| smcginnis | We'll probably know for sure soon enough then. :D | 14:36 |
| e0ne | :) | 14:36 |
| jungleboyj | We use eharney 's distro, so ... :-) | 14:36 |
| rosmaita | this sounds like a good start | 14:36 |
| jungleboyj | Testing in production is the best! | 14:37 |
| jungleboyj | Adds spice to life. | 14:37 |
| geguileo | rofl | 14:37 |
| e0ne | jungleboyj: does it mean Lenovo will support HA soon? | 14:37 |
| rosmaita | well, it certainly adds urgency | 14:37 |
| jungleboyj | geguileo: Thought you could use a laugh. | 14:37 |
| jungleboyj | e0ne: The Lenovo driver? | 14:37 |
| geguileo | jungleboyj: I do, thanks :-) | 14:38 |
| e0ne | yep | 14:38 |
| e0ne | looks like we agree with my proposal... so I have one more question about our CI... | 14:38 |
| jungleboyj | e0ne: No, I don't think we will use it there but we are making use of the Ceph driver which has HA support. Right? | 14:38 |
| e0ne | jungleboyj: fair enough | 14:39 |
| e0ne | does anybody remember where is our multinode job? | 14:39 |
| jungleboyj | We will also be using NetApp's drivers. I think they may have added support. | 14:39 |
| sfernand | we have a patch enabling AA only for SF until now | 14:40 |
| sfernand | you are saying for ONTAP right? | 14:41 |
| jungleboyj | Yes, ONTAP. | 14:42 |
| rosmaita | e0ne: i think the grenade jobs are multinode ? | 14:42 |
| e0ne | rosmaita: I'm not sure | 14:42 |
| rosmaita | me neither, tbh | 14:42 |
| lseki | jungleboyj: we don't have plans to implement A/A on ONTAP yet | 14:42 |
| e0ne | we've got lvm multibackend | 14:42 |
| e0ne | but I don't see any multinode job now :( | 14:43 |
| jungleboyj | lseki: Ok. Good to know. | 14:43 |
| e0ne | I remember we'd got it in the past | 14:43 |
| rosmaita | tosky: are you around? | 14:43 |
| lseki | jungleboyj: but it's in progress for solidfire | 14:43 |
| rosmaita | (Luigi is my go-to person for gate jobs) | 14:43 |
| e0ne | :) | 14:44 |
| tosky | rosmaita: yes | 14:44 |
| eharney | the "mn" in "cinder-grenade-dsvm-mn-sub-volbak" implies it does something multi-node but i'm not sure what | 14:44 |
| tosky | yes, it uses two nodes (and split the cinder services) | 14:45 |
| rosmaita | tosky: maybe you can coordinate with e0ne -- he has some ideas for adding some tests, but needs a multinode job | 14:45 |
| tosky | well, the grenade job is not the first choice as it is for upgrades, you probably want a normal multinode job | 14:45 |
| whoami-rajat | the cinder-grenade-dsvm-mn-sub-volbak and one more job with -volsch in the experimental job were defined for multinode testing purpose | 14:45 |
| e0ne | it | 14:46 |
| tosky | all the tempest-based jobs are potentially multinode, you just need to change the nodeset | 14:46 |
| e0ne | it's good that at lease grenade is multinode | 14:46 |
| tosky | which kind of tests do you want to add? | 14:46 |
| e0ne | tosky: sounds good. I'll try to add a new job | 14:46 |
| rosmaita | tosky: do you know any examples of a "normal" (non-grenade) multinode job? | 14:47 |
| e0ne | tosky: some A/A HA configuration | 14:47 |
| rosmaita | i think e0ne just wants to get an A/A setup, and then run our normal tempest tests and see what breaks | 14:47 |
| e0ne | rosmaita: thanks. it's exactly what I want to do | 14:48 |
| tosky | rosmaita: tempest-multinode-full from tempest.git | 14:48 |
| tosky | it's basically devstack-tempest with a different nodeset | 14:48 |
| rosmaita | tosky: sounds like what we need | 14:49 |
| e0ne | +1 | 14:49 |
| smcginnis | Different nodeset, then some config changes to set up the A/A bit. | 14:49 |
| rosmaita | e0ne: see if you can get something started, and ask for help if you need it next week | 14:49 |
| rosmaita | i think there's a lot of interest in getting something like this working | 14:50 |
| e0ne | rosmaita: ok, will do it asap | 14:50 |
| rosmaita | great | 14:50 |
| rosmaita | so that actually was an exciting topic! | 14:51 |
| rosmaita | #topic open discussion | 14:51 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:51 | |
| jungleboyj | :-) | 14:51 |
| e0ne | :) | 14:52 |
| smcginnis | rosmaita: Anything we need to do to start planning for the virtual PTG? | 14:52 |
| rosmaita | i was going to wait until M-3 | 14:52 |
| jungleboyj | :-) | 14:52 |
| rosmaita | smcginnis: is it virtual for sure? | 14:52 |
| jungleboyj | Has it been officialy decided virtual? | 14:52 |
| jungleboyj | Jinx. | 14:53 |
| smcginnis | I thought so. | 14:53 |
| e0ne | jungleboyj: afaik, not yet | 14:53 |
| rosmaita | the foundation page hasn't been updated since 2 march | 14:53 |
| * smcginnis looks again | 14:53 | |
| rosmaita | https://www.openstack.org/events/covid-19-coronavirus-disease-updates | 14:53 |
| jungleboyj | I think it is a safe bet that it will be. | 14:53 |
| e0ne | https://www.openstack.org/events/covid-19-coronavirus-disease-updates | 14:53 |
| jungleboyj | Unfortunately. | 14:54 |
| tosky | the European Football Championship has been postponed to 2021 (and it was supposed to happen in June), I would be surprised if the PTG was going to happen | 14:54 |
| e0ne | jungleboyj: +1 | 14:54 |
| smcginnis | It's probably safe to assume APril will be virtual. | 14:54 |
| whoami-rajat | i think the KubeCon was postponded as well | 14:54 |
| jungleboyj | May will probably be all virtual as well. | 14:55 |
| rosmaita | i guess the only worry will be everyone using bluejeans at once may crash it! | 14:55 |
| jungleboyj | They were talking about this going through the Summer in the US potentially but I really hope not. | 14:55 |
| rosmaita | my thought would be, we'll hold the virtual PTG on the dates already reserved | 14:55 |
| smcginnis | I've found this useful: https://stayinghome.club/ | 14:55 |
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| rosmaita | i guess the only problem will be time zones | 14:55 |
| jungleboyj | :-) This is an amazing scaling test for VPN providers, streaming companies and video conferencing platforms. | 14:56 |
| smcginnis | I've been impressed how little issues I've noticed so far. | 14:56 |
| tosky | rosmaita: maybe the foundation could provide a private jitsi instance on private server for the PTG | 14:56 |
| rosmaita | i think we can do multiple 2 hour slots such that at least one slot is convenient for each TZ | 14:56 |
| smcginnis | We do have our own asterisk server. Not sure how much that scales. | 14:56 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: ++ My internet is a little slower, but not bad. Apparently some people in Lenovo were having VPN issues. Not too bad though. | 14:57 |
| rosmaita | tosky: i misread that as "private jet" and thought, "but where would we go?" | 14:57 |
| smcginnis | :) | 14:57 |
| jungleboyj | Rachel is having major issues with her VPN. | 14:57 |
| rosmaita | ok, i guess the summary of that is we should start thinking about a virtual PTG | 14:57 |
| jungleboyj | :-) | 14:58 |
| rosmaita | ok, just about out of time | 14:59 |
| rosmaita | we'll start planning at next meeting, i guess | 14:59 |
| rosmaita | anyone have anything to say? | 14:59 |
| jungleboyj | Stay safe everyone! | 15:00 |
| e0ne | +1 | 15:00 |
| LiangFang | +1 | 15:00 |
| rosmaita | +1 | 15:00 |
| rosmaita | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 18 15:00:24 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2020/cinder.2020-03-18-14.00.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2020/cinder.2020-03-18-14.00.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2020/cinder.2020-03-18-14.00.log.html | 15:00 |
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| jungleboyj | Thanks! | 15:00 |
| e0ne | see you next week | 15:01 |
| jungleboyj | Yep. | 15:01 |
| smcginnis | Remember, in a different channel. Most likely. | 15:01 |
| jungleboyj | Okie Dokie. | 15:01 |
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| ttx | die channel die | 15:01 |
| rosmaita | smcginnis: thanks for the reminder -- i forgot to say that | 15:01 |
| smcginnis | ttx: Hah! | 15:01 |
| * ttx starts putting on plastic wrap all around the channel, like Dexter | 15:02 | |
| smcginnis | Nice! | 15:02 |
| rosmaita | ttx: i guess one good thing about jamming all the meetings into one or 2 channels, is that we will have to be good about not running over | 15:02 |
| jungleboyj | *Laughing* | 15:02 |
| ttx | rosmaita: actually I was one meeting away of also killing meeting-3 | 15:02 |
| rosmaita | :) | 15:03 |
| rosmaita | that's too bad | 15:03 |
| jungleboyj | https://gph.is/1sGylqr | 15:03 |
| jungleboyj | Oooh, this one is creepy: https://gph.is/1ciUBGI | 15:03 |
| jungleboyj | I remember when there weren't enough meeting channels. | 15:04 |
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