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| abhishekk | #startmeeting glance | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 27 14:00:30 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is abhishekk. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| abhishekk | #topic roll call | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:00 | |
| abhishekk | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda | 14:00 |
| abhishekk | o/ | 14:00 |
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| rosmaita | o/ | 14:01 |
| nao-shark | o/ | 14:02 |
| rosmaita | abhishekk: i haven't had time to look at the glanceclient patches this morning, did my comments make sense? | 14:02 |
| abhishekk | lets wait 2-3 minutes for jokke_ | 14:02 |
| abhishekk | rosmaita, Yes, I have added inline answer to those | 14:02 |
| rosmaita | ok, will take a look | 14:03 |
| abhishekk | If you still insist to remove those check then I will do it in a separate patch | 14:03 |
| abhishekk | lets start | 14:04 |
| abhishekk | #topic release/periodic jobs update | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "release/periodic jobs update (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:04 | |
| abhishekk | We need to release glanceclient ASAP | 14:04 |
| abhishekk | two important patches needs to be merged | 14:05 |
| jokke_ | o/ | 14:05 |
| abhishekk | #link https://review.opendev.org/699656 | 14:05 |
| whoami-rajat | Hi | 14:05 |
| abhishekk | jokke_, o/ | 14:05 |
| abhishekk | #link https://review.opendev.org/709086 | 14:05 |
| abhishekk | whoami-rajat, o/ | 14:05 |
| abhishekk | Kindly review these patches and get it going | 14:06 |
| abhishekk | Periodic jobs couple of timeouts due to parser error | 14:06 |
| abhishekk | which is our next topic | 14:06 |
| abhishekk | #topic the stestr situation | 14:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "the stestr situation (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:07 | |
| abhishekk | rosmaita, floor is yours | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | yeah, i was looking into this real quickly | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | was wondering if we could force the issue by going back to testr | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | but, it looks like that is no longer maintained | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | plus, the real problem seems to be in subunit | 14:07 |
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| jokke_ | yeah iirc that's why we moved to stestr | 14:08 |
| rosmaita | and it looks like stephinfin has a patch up for that | 14:08 |
| abhishekk | rosmaita, https://github.com/testing-cabal/subunit/pull/40 this seems to be solved the parser error | 14:08 |
| rosmaita | looks like the subunit maintainer is not too keen on that patch | 14:08 |
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| abhishekk | I have applied that in my local environment, and seems to be working | 14:08 |
| rosmaita | so i wonder whether it would help if abhishekk and efried for nova added comments to that pull request | 14:08 |
| jokke_ | is it still the same issue that we're too heavy with logging and overwhelm subunit? | 14:08 |
| abhishekk | jokke_, yes | 14:09 |
| rosmaita | i don't know | 14:09 |
| abhishekk | stephinfin has reproduce for this, https://review.opendev.org/#/c/700522/1/nova/tests/unit/test_utils.py | 14:09 |
| rosmaita | the consensus seemed to be that there's some kind of mishandling of a file object somewhere | 14:09 |
| * jokke_ can see os_subunit fork coming soon to your neighbourhood | 14:09 | |
| rosmaita | anyway, i put this on the agenda wondering if there was an alternative testrunner we could use | 14:10 |
| abhishekk | I have applied this patch in local environment without subunit pull changes it is failing with parser error | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | but it looks like not if we want to have highly parallel tests running | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | yeah, so the situation is that the patch works, but the subunit maintainer thinks it is a hack | 14:11 |
| abhishekk | and with his pull changes it is working | 14:11 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: thanks for looking into this and I truly hope we as community can come together and fix the issues rather than a) forking yet another project or b) start fiddling around and patching yet another test runner. Also like you said the options list is pretty short | 14:11 |
| abhishekk | I can comment on that, but will it help? | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | yeah, i think maybe abhishekk report on the pull request, and maybe we can circle up with stephen for some strategy | 14:12 |
| jokke_ | does he has better solution to offer? | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | yeah, fix our tests so that it doesn't happen | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | :P | 14:12 |
| jokke_ | oh lol, so no | 14:13 |
| jokke_ | yeah lets keep the pressure on | 14:13 |
| abhishekk | rosmaita, cyril is going to drop a mail to him | 14:13 |
| rosmaita | ok, sounds good ... that's all from me | 14:13 |
| jokke_ | one can always start flame war on reddit :P | 14:14 |
| jokke_ | That helps every time | 14:14 |
| abhishekk | :D | 14:14 |
| abhishekk | we had lengthy discussion on this today, lets see how this will progress | 14:15 |
| abhishekk | moving ahead | 14:15 |
| abhishekk | #topic Delete image from single store | 14:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Delete image from single store (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:15 | |
| jokke_ | ++ | 14:15 |
| abhishekk | jokke_, do you mind if I take this ahead? | 14:15 |
| abhishekk | IMO this will be very helpful feature and don't want to waste our efforts | 14:16 |
| jokke_ | I don't care, haven't had time for it and my request for adding hours to a day has not been approved yet :P | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | abhishek has been disconnected | 14:18 |
| rosmaita | ok, so jokke_ you are ok with abhishekk taking over the patch? | 14:18 |
| abhishekk | sorry, I have been disconnected from the network | 14:18 |
| abhishekk | did I miss something? | 14:18 |
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| rosmaita | nope | 14:18 |
| jokke_ | I don't care, haven't had time for it and my request for adding hours to a day has not been approved yet :P | 14:19 |
| jokke_ | ^^ that possibly | 14:19 |
| abhishekk | cool | 14:19 |
| abhishekk | ok, moving ahead | 14:19 |
| abhishekk | #topic glance cinder store nfs mount issue | 14:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "glance cinder store nfs mount issue (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:20 | |
| abhishekk | whoami-rajat, stage is yours | 14:20 |
| whoami-rajat | Hi | 14:20 |
| whoami-rajat | So i wanted to discuss regarding my patch that mounts the image-volume in the glance directory rather than the cinder one | 14:20 |
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| whoami-rajat | i've faced error regarding that in my environment (Permission Denied) and i think it can cause much bigger issues too | 14:21 |
| whoami-rajat | Nova has the same approach of mounting nfs volumes to their own custom path | 14:21 |
| whoami-rajat | and similarly i would like to propose for glance | 14:21 |
| rosmaita | that seems to make sense | 14:22 |
| jokke_ | whoami-rajat: I hope my stance did not come too hars. Happy that you're looking into the problems there. This is just really something os_brick should handle rather than each consumer reinventing the wheel on their own, and that's why os_brick was pushed to us to use in that driver | 14:22 |
| whoami-rajat | jokke_, not at all harsh :) | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | well, i think that glance_store is supposed to be providing the abstraction layer to glance | 14:23 |
| eharney | i'd like to understand the objection better... i think there's some misunderstanding about what os-brick does and doesn't do | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | so the place to do the os-brick mediation would seem to be in the glance_store driver | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | it has suddenly gone quiet in here? or am i disconnected? | 14:25 |
| jokke_ | nope, just quiet | 14:25 |
| abhishekk | nope | 14:25 |
| rosmaita | ok, thanks | 14:25 |
| rosmaita | eharney: can you explain why nova takes the approach it does with os-brick? | 14:26 |
| eharney | os-brick provides an interface to connect to things, but the consumer (glance_store here, or nova) still has to have code that handles block devices (iscsi/fc), nfs volumes, rbd volumes, etc | 14:26 |
| jokke_ | So iirc the whole idea of cinder+os-brick was that we get block device from cinder and os-brick provides us access to it so that we do not need to take care of the special sauce of different back-ends in glance | 14:27 |
| eharney | os-brick will not provide a block device when cinder is serving volumes over nfs | 14:27 |
| jokke_ | and yes, we already have special sauce for rbd, but lets be honest they are just special in every way. | 14:27 |
| eharney | i assume that the glance_store driver for cinder needs similar work for rbd, but that's a whole different project | 14:28 |
| abhishekk | I just have one question, if cinder has configured multiple nfs backends then how this new config option will help? | 14:28 |
| eharney | nfs exports are mounted to different directories under $cinder_nfs_mount_point_base | 14:29 |
| whoami-rajat | jokke_, the code we're trying to implement isn't for each and every driver but the types of driver i.e. iscsi, fc, nfs, rbd so we just need to have code handling these scenarios rather than all the storage drivers | 14:29 |
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| whoami-rajat | eharney++ | 14:31 |
| whoami-rajat | the mount point is a directory with the volume id (IIRC) inside the mount_point_base | 14:31 |
| eharney | i don't think i answered the why nova does what it does question... some of that predates the existence of cinder | 14:31 |
| whoami-rajat | /var/lib/glance/<vol-id>/ | 14:32 |
| eharney | but the "how" of what it does, is that it determines where it wants to mount nfs exports to consume cinder volumes, and chooses a path to mount them to. this particular item is one of things missing from glance_store currently | 14:32 |
| jokke_ | whoami-rajat: well, that's the thing ... when the cinder driver was introduced the selling point was that we don't need any of that as cinder abstracts the backend from us, now you're saying that we need special sauce for every type of connectivity as os-brick can't handle that and I guess next step is that we need spaghetti for HP, NetAPP, DellEMC, PureStore etc. cause they will need their | 14:32 |
| jokke_ | own special treatment | 14:32 |
| eharney | no, it's not a per-driver issue | 14:32 |
| eharney | it's a per-protocol issue | 14:33 |
| abhishekk | current glance_store cinder driver has many loop holes | 14:33 |
| eharney | so, iscsi, fc (which are mostly the same in brick), nfs, ceph, and... other rare ones if someone wants to | 14:33 |
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| jokke_ | so can we give os-brick "base mount path" and it does the right thing there or do we need to bring special setting for each protocol? | 14:33 |
| eharney | base_mount_path is only relevant for FS protocols (and at this point only NFS is really of interest there, i think) | 14:34 |
| jokke_ | cause _that_ is the problem I have with this proposal. If os-brick needs a folder it has permission to do it's thing I'm fine with that. If we need to specify that for each and every thing separately I'm having problem with it | 14:35 |
| abhishekk | +! | 14:35 |
| abhishekk | +1 | 14:35 |
| rosmaita | well, it's either fix it inside the glance_store cinder driver, or have a glance_store cinder_nfs, cinder_iscis etc | 14:35 |
| jokke_ | eharney: so can we call it "cinder_base_mount_path" and never have this discussion again when there is next special sayce that needs some node local FS trickstery, been that loop mounts, nfs, iscsi fs with volume images etc. | 14:36 |
| jokke_ | ? | 14:36 |
| eharney | i guess it can be called that since it's in the glance_store cinder driver, but both nova and cinder have the option named "nfs_mount_point_base" | 14:37 |
| jokke_ | cause I know that day will come if we call that nfs specific that next guy doing their thing doesn't want to use it as it's nfs | 14:37 |
| rosmaita | i think it's better to be consistent with cinder and nova | 14:38 |
| rosmaita | since people from those teams may wind up working on it | 14:38 |
| eharney | the problem with making it generic is that later when you add support for, i dunno, yzfs, then you need a different option named something else for yzfs mounts | 14:38 |
| whoami-rajat | jokke_, i think the glance cinder store has a generic code that requires some restructuring for some specific cases. | 14:38 |
| eharney | so i'm not sure it's a good idea to avoid putting "nfs" in the name | 14:38 |
| abhishekk | rosmaita, as per our glance store standard we define each option with store_prefix_option_name | 14:39 |
| whoami-rajat | eharney, nova has different mount_point_base names for different drivers like quobyte | 14:39 |
| eharney | whoami-rajat: right | 14:39 |
| jokke_ | eharney: that's exactly what I wan to avoid | 14:39 |
| rosmaita | ok, so i guess if we're arguing over the name of the config opt, then the issue is basically settled? | 14:39 |
| eharney | i'm not sure it's a good idea to try to avoid that, i think that's a requirement | 14:40 |
| eharney | but, what rosmaita said | 14:40 |
| jokke_ | eharney: so if brick is given mount path it can then do /put/mount/craps/here/[nfs,yfs,psnpfs] and the driver side should never need to know about it | 14:40 |
| eharney | true, we could just make it "cinder_mount_point_base" and all nfs mounts go under $cinder_mount_point_base/nfs/<asdf> | 14:41 |
| jokke_ | it's just gives brick a path that it has permissions to do what it needs to do | 14:41 |
| eharney | and yzfs goes under $cinder_mount_point_base/yzfs etc | 14:41 |
| eharney | not a bad idea | 14:41 |
| rosmaita | whoami-rajat: that sound OK to you? | 14:42 |
| jokke_ | cause there is no reason the consumer should be touching those or know about them, I'm assuming brick gives the consumer just fd anyways | 14:42 |
| abhishekk | sounds reasonable to me | 14:42 |
| whoami-rajat | rosmaita, i'm not sure there are 2 discussions going on | 14:42 |
| abhishekk | :D | 14:43 |
| whoami-rajat | rosmaita, if you're talking about making cinder_mount_point_base the generic and all FS driver files go into it then i'm ok with it | 14:43 |
| jokke_ | and that would avoid us having extra 300 lines of config options and comments for them in our already mile long config files just because | 14:43 |
| rosmaita | whoami-rajat: ok, and what issue is still open? | 14:43 |
| abhishekk | +1 | 14:43 |
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| whoami-rajat | rosmaita, i think jokke_ is still suggesting it inside os-brick ? | 14:44 |
| rosmaita | no, i thought it was going to be done in the cinder driver | 14:44 |
| whoami-rajat | rosmaita, then i misunderstood the words and i'm clearly ok with everything | 14:44 |
| abhishekk | 15 minutes remaining | 14:45 |
| jokke_ | the best case scenario is that it's in os-brick, we can pass it when we initiate the connector (regardless if it's needed or not) and brick does the right thing | 14:45 |
| jokke_ | it just knows "Hey I have a path here if I need one I have permissions to" | 14:46 |
| jokke_ | that would be nice way to consume it :P | 14:46 |
| whoami-rajat | can we also have the final action items so i don't miss out anything? | 14:47 |
| whoami-rajat | i know one for sure to rename the mount base path config option | 14:48 |
| abhishekk | cinder_mount_point_base we can have this option in glance_store cinder driver | 14:48 |
| jokke_ | whoami-rajat: that's a good start, I think we need to continue this discussion offline. I need to run in a minute | 14:49 |
| abhishekk | and all nfs mount goes under cinder_mount_point_base/nfs and others under cinder_mount_point_base/ | 14:49 |
| whoami-rajat | jokke_, ack, thanks for the discussion | 14:49 |
| jokke_ | can't be late twice a day and I joined couple of min late so need to take it back and run couple early :P | 14:49 |
| abhishekk | :D | 14:49 |
| abhishekk | moving to open discussion | 14:49 |
| abhishekk | #topic Open discussion | 14:50 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:50 | |
| rosmaita | i have something | 14:50 |
| rosmaita | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-February/012883.html | 14:50 |
| rosmaita | question about show_multiple_locations deprecation status | 14:50 |
| rosmaita | i replied, but the author suggested revising the train release notes to say the workaround is still needed | 14:51 |
| rosmaita | abhishekk: that's up to you | 14:51 |
| abhishekk | I need to do one stable/train release coming week | 14:51 |
| jokke_ | I haven't read that but I think we need to lift the deprecation and hopes of getting rid of it due to how popular ceph became and everything is heavily relying on hetting those location uris | 14:51 |
| jokke_ | getting | 14:52 |
| abhishekk | rosmaita, If you provide me the wording I will add one for sure | 14:52 |
| abhishekk | I am pretty bad in writing release notes | 14:52 |
| rosmaita | abhishekk: sure, i think we can just copy the one from stein | 14:52 |
| rosmaita | i will look and see | 14:52 |
| abhishekk | rosmaita, ack, | 14:53 |
| jokke_ | Ping me if anything is needed. Now I really need to run (today is last day when my passport is valid and I have appointment to order a new one so can't be late from that) :) | 14:53 |
| jokke_ | will be back online in a while | 14:53 |
| abhishekk | jokke_, o/~ | 14:53 |
| rosmaita | jokke_: ok, don't get deported | 14:53 |
| rosmaita | abhishekk: i'll get up a patch for you in a bit | 14:53 |
| abhishekk | we have new member waiting I guss | 14:53 |
| abhishekk | rosmaita, thanks | 14:53 |
| abhishekk | nao-shark, around? | 14:54 |
| nao-shark | Thanks. | 14:54 |
| nao-shark | I have two questions . | 14:54 |
| nao-shark | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/687390/ | 14:54 |
| nao-shark | This is my spec for revive the S3 driver. | 14:54 |
| nao-shark | and this is my patch of S3 driver. https://review.opendev.org/#/c/695844/ | 14:55 |
| nao-shark | I want to edit glance-api.conf to show how to configure the S3 driver. | 14:55 |
| nao-shark | But it looks like generated by oslo-config-generator. | 14:55 |
| nao-shark | So my first question is Can I make a separate patch for glance-api.conf before my S3 driver patch is merged? | 14:55 |
| nao-shark | My concern is that modifications to the S3 driver may directly affect the content of glance-api.conf. | 14:55 |
| abhishekk | nao-shark, I will have a look at those and will get back to you | 14:56 |
| rosmaita | nao-shark: what you can do is regenerate the config file and submit it as part of your patch | 14:56 |
| rosmaita | i think we still keep a full config sample? or did we stop doing that? | 14:56 |
| abhishekk | nao-shark, could you ping me tomorrow in the morning time? | 14:56 |
| abhishekk | rosmaita, I guess we have stopped doing that | 14:56 |
| rosmaita | oh, ok | 14:57 |
| rosmaita | nao-shark: best work it out with abhishekk tomorrow | 14:57 |
| nao-shark | abhishekk OK. thanks | 14:57 |
| abhishekk | cool | 14:57 |
| abhishekk | anything else | 14:57 |
| nao-shark | Maybe the next question should probably be tomorrow | 14:58 |
| abhishekk | rosmaita, I have replied to your question on client patch | 14:58 |
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| abhishekk | nao-shark, yes | 14:58 |
| abhishekk | or you can drop me a mail as well | 14:58 |
| abhishekk | thank you all | 14:59 |
| nao-shark | abhishekk OK Thanks for your support ! | 14:59 |
| rosmaita | bye | 14:59 |
| abhishekk | nao-shark, no worries | 14:59 |
| abhishekk | #endmeeting | 14:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 14:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Feb 27 14:59:55 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2020/glance.2020-02-27-14.00.html | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2020/glance.2020-02-27-14.00.txt | 14:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2020/glance.2020-02-27-14.00.log.html | 15:00 |
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