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| rosmaita | Courtesy reminder: Cinder meeting in #openstack-meeting-4 at 1400 UTC | 13:57 |
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| rosmaita | jungleboyj rosmaita smcginnis tosky whoami-rajat m5z e0ne geguileo eharney walshh_ jbernard lseki sfernand rajinir ^^ | 13:57 |
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| jungleboyj | o/ | 14:00 |
| rosmaita | #startmeeting | 14:00 |
| openstack | rosmaita: Error: A meeting name is required, e.g., '#startmeeting Marketing Committee' | 14:00 |
| LiangFang | o/ | 14:00 |
| rosmaita | #startmeeting cinder | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 26 14:00:43 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rosmaita. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' | 14:00 |
| eharney | hi | 14:00 |
| anastzhyr | Hello | 14:00 |
| smcginnis | o/ | 14:01 |
| rosmaita | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-ussuri-meetings | 14:01 |
| rosmaita | #topic roll call | 14:01 |
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| lseki | o/ | 14:01 |
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| enriquetaso | hi | 14:01 |
| whoami-rajat | Hi | 14:01 |
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| rosmaita | looks like a good turnout | 14:01 |
| rosmaita | i'll start the announcements while people are still rolling in | 14:02 |
| m5z | hi | 14:02 |
| rosmaita | #topic announcements | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:02 | |
| rosmaita | this is week Release-minus-11 | 14:02 |
| rosmaita | virtual mid-cycle part 2 is R-8 (week of 16 March) | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | milestone 3 is R-5 (week of 6 April) | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | just to give a rough idea of where we are | 14:03 |
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| rosmaita | virtual midcycle part 2 poll (if you haven't taken it yet): https://doodle.com/poll/eme483iv2faupn6z | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | i think the poll closes in a few hours | 14:04 |
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| rosmaita | if you're thinking you will attend, please fill it out so that it doesn't get scheduled at a bad time | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | if wednesday wins, that will mean no cinder meeting that week | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | (if you need some incentive) | 14:04 |
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| rosmaita | #topic announcements - final rocky release | 14:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements - final rocky release (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:05 | |
| rosmaita | we had a late bugfix last week that was done on friday and needed to go back to rocky | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | unfortunately, the gate broke big-time over the weekend | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | and so there was a big pile-up of patches | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | anyway, that fix has made it to train, and is ready for stein and then rocky | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | so stable cores, please look at https://review.opendev.org/#/c/709833/ (stein) and https://review.opendev.org/#/c/709856/ (rocky) | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | for the rocky patch, i could use two +2s and then I will apply the +W after stein merges | 14:07 |
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| enriquetaso | thanks rosmaita ! | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | once that lands, we'll be ready for the final cinder rocky release | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | there are details on the releases etherpad: | 14:08 |
| rosmaita | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-releases-tracking | 14:08 |
| rosmaita | basically, os-brick and cinderclient are ready to go | 14:08 |
| rosmaita | no need to release cinderlib or brick-cinderclient-ext | 14:08 |
| rosmaita | and that will finish rocky | 14:08 |
| rosmaita | we'll release from stable/stein and stable/train next week | 14:09 |
| smcginnis | Thanks for tracking all of those threads rosmaita | 14:09 |
| rosmaita | last i looked, there wasn't much outstanding for those | 14:09 |
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| rosmaita | i guess that's all the announcements for today | 14:09 |
| rosmaita | #topic outreachy internship final report | 14:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "outreachy internship final report (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:10 | |
| rosmaita | enriquetaso: anastzhyr: that's you | 14:10 |
| enriquetaso | hello | 14:10 |
| enriquetaso | This is a quick report | 14:10 |
| jungleboyj | Yes, thank you rosmaita . | 14:10 |
| enriquetaso | Ana's last day anastzhyr is next week, so feel free to reach her if something comes up | 14:10 |
| enriquetaso | Current work and goals achieved: https://review.opendev.org/#/q/owner:Anastasiya.Zhyrkevich%2540gmail.com | 14:11 |
| anastzhyr | From my side I want to thank enriquetaso for all the help, I am still working on some scenarios. | 14:11 |
| enriquetaso | Would be nice to have an special look at https://review.opendev.org/#/c/703890/ | 14:11 |
| enriquetaso | aww thanks anastzhyr, you are doing great! | 14:12 |
| anastzhyr | I have learnt the structure of the project, the goals, and understood the way of testing large projects | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | anastzhyr: we appreciate your work, it's good to have some more test coverage | 14:12 |
| enriquetaso | I think Openstack is a complex project to work with so feel proud ! | 14:12 |
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| enriquetaso | that's all for me :) | 14:13 |
| rosmaita | thanks enriquetaso | 14:13 |
| rosmaita | anastzhyr: i hope you've had an overall positive experience working with openstack (and cinder in particular) | 14:13 |
| rosmaita | and good luck for your post-internship career! | 14:14 |
| jungleboyj | ++ | 14:14 |
| anastzhyr | Yes, that is great and I really would like to continue contributing to openstack | 14:14 |
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| anastzhyr | and cinder in particular | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | we'll be here! | 14:14 |
| smcginnis | anastzhyr: Thanks and good luck! | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | i just asked someone to fix a unit test the other day that would have broken in 2099 | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | because you never know ... | 14:15 |
| whoami-rajat | anastzhyr, good work! | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | #topic Should Cinder adopt devstack-tempest-nfs | 14:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Should Cinder adopt devstack-tempest-nfs (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:16 | |
| rosmaita | tosky: that's you | 14:16 |
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| tosky | devstack-plugin-nfs is used by both cinder and nova, but when the opendev migration happened, it was moved under the x namespace, which means that it's not part of any project | 14:16 |
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| eharney | i think this just got moved to "x" when the split was done because i wasn't paying attention to the right thing at the right time | 14:17 |
| eharney | so, yes | 14:17 |
| rosmaita | #link https://opendev.org/x/devstack-plugin-nfs | 14:17 |
| rosmaita | my opendev.org is still displaying in japanese | 14:17 |
| tosky | this may not be a problem in itself, and adding more reviewers and cores can be done anyway, but still, given its usage, I believe it would be better if it was part of some project | 14:18 |
| smcginnis | rosmaita: それで頑張って | 14:18 |
| tosky | a similar project, devstack-plugin-ceph, is under the QA project | 14:18 |
| rosmaita | it's always better for things to have owners | 14:18 |
| eharney | it is? | 14:18 |
| tosky | should devstack-plugin-nfs a) stay as it is b) be adopted by Cinder c) be adopted by QA (as it is used by different projects) d) (anything else) | 14:19 |
| rosmaita | this is the kind of thing we want LiangFang to do for open-cas, is that right? | 14:19 |
| smcginnis | I think b or c. I think it makes sense having QA "own" it with Cinder kind of driving it. | 14:19 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: ++ | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | tosky: since you brought it up, i take it you have an opinion? | 14:21 |
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| tosky | I was originally thinking about Cinder, but that was before checking where devstack-plugin-ceph lives | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | devstack itself is owned by QA, is that right? | 14:23 |
| tosky | as it is generic, maybe QA would be fine; the list of cores can stay as it is, with the addition of devstack-core (as it is for devstack-plugin-ceph) | 14:24 |
| eharney | well, just as a data point, it looks like cinder has done almost all of the contributions to that plugin so far | 14:24 |
| LiangFang | why not this plugin in devstack/lib/cinder_plugins? | 14:24 |
| eharney | for one, it's easier for cinder folks to maintain it if it's not in devstack itself | 14:25 |
| tosky | LiangFang: it's not for cinder only, if I understand it correctly | 14:25 |
| tosky | just like devstack-plugin-ceph | 14:25 |
| eharney | it looks like it is currently for cinder only, but that could change | 14:26 |
| tosky | having it under a !Cinder project does not mean that the set of cores should change | 14:26 |
| rosmaita | i think the stuff in devstack/lib/cinder_plugins is to do cinder-specific setup, assuming you've got the other plugins installed | 14:26 |
| eharney | i want to say that the devstack folks were also happier to have such things not live in the devstack tree, but i could be mistaken | 14:26 |
| smcginnis | If they don't want to house it, then let's just move those under Cinder and be done with it. | 14:28 |
| tosky | I never suggested to move the code under devstack.git | 14:28 |
| smcginnis | Nothing prevents other non-Cinder folks from using or contributing to it. | 14:28 |
| tosky | I just said that the existing repository can live under the QA project | 14:28 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: ++ | 14:28 |
| rosmaita | tosky: so, being in the "x" namespace now, does that mean it's an orphan project? | 14:30 |
| tosky | rosmaita: yes, not part of any project (not even a standalone openstack project) | 14:30 |
| rosmaita | ok, so that's bad | 14:30 |
| smcginnis | Just that it's not official and under OpenStack governance. | 14:30 |
| smcginnis | It doesn't mean it's orphaned. | 14:31 |
| rosmaita | it's kind of weird that it doesn't have the same status as devstack-plugin-ceph | 14:31 |
| smcginnis | And actually, it's not an openstack "deliverable" so it actually kind of makes sense to be an x/ project. | 14:31 |
| smcginnis | True, that part should be consistent. | 14:32 |
| rosmaita | ok, so from my point of view, the issue is: (a) do we rely on this thing, and (b) are there changes we want to make to it that are slowing us down? | 14:32 |
| eharney | we rely on it for nfs ci jobs | 14:33 |
| tosky | there are 3 core right now: eharne, jungleboyj and tbarron | 14:33 |
| rosmaita | so it's 2/3 cinder already | 14:34 |
| jungleboyj | Hmmm, little scary that I didn't know I twas a core. | 14:34 |
| jungleboyj | :-) | 14:34 |
| rosmaita | you get around | 14:34 |
| rosmaita | btw, congratulations to smcginnis on becoming an oslo core | 14:35 |
| eharney | i usually try to keep the cinder ptl on as core in case there's a gate emergency etc | 14:35 |
| smcginnis | rosmaita: Is that something to congratulate on? :) | 14:35 |
| rosmaita | here's what i'm thinking: let's do a quick review of what devstack plugins we are relying on and discuss which ones we want to take over at the midcycle | 14:36 |
| jungleboyj | eharney: Ah, makes sense. | 14:36 |
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| jungleboyj | Sounds like a reasonable path forward. | 14:36 |
| smcginnis | So thinking conceptually, I think it makes sense for these to be under QA. With Cinder as cores, but qa-core included as well so anyone from the devstack team has the power to push changes as/if needed. | 14:36 |
| tosky | jungleboyj: you voted +2 a few days ago :) | 14:36 |
| rosmaita | smcginnis: ++ | 14:36 |
| tosky | rosmaita: I don't think there are others, apart from devstack-plugin-ceph which is also heavily used by manila | 14:37 |
| tosky | so QA is the right place | 14:37 |
| jungleboyj | tosky: :-) Ok, glad I was using my powers for good then. | 14:37 |
| eharney | i think it's just nfs and ceph, the other ones (bdd/glusterfs/sheepdog) we don't need any more | 14:37 |
| rosmaita | ok, that's good | 14:38 |
| eharney | and we need to make sure that a future plugin for opencas gets in the right place | 14:38 |
| rosmaita | so the next step would be for someone, maybe the cinder PTL to reach out to the QA team about this? | 14:38 |
| smcginnis | Yeah, probably a good place to start. | 14:39 |
| smcginnis | eharney: Do we really have the bdd still out there? | 14:39 |
| rosmaita | ok, i'll send out something to the ML | 14:40 |
| eharney | smcginnis: well, it exists | 14:40 |
| rosmaita | #action rosmaita send email to QA team about ^^ | 14:40 |
| smcginnis | Huh, I see - https://opendev.org/x/devstack-plugin-bdd | 14:40 |
| smcginnis | Should probably officially retire that one. I doubt it can actually work anywhere anymore. | 14:41 |
| eharney | i think so | 14:41 |
| * smcginnis makes note | 14:41 | |
| rosmaita | looks like smcginnis removed sheepdog recently from https://opendev.org/openstack/devstack/src/branch/master/lib/cinder_plugins | 14:41 |
| eharney | we removed the sheepdog driver, but in theory it's still in some stable branches i guess | 14:42 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Love to remove code. :-) | 14:42 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: You know it! :) | 14:42 |
| rosmaita | ok, i think we can move on | 14:43 |
| rosmaita | #topic update on native Zuul v3 jobs | 14:43 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "update on native Zuul v3 jobs (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:43 | |
| rosmaita | tosky: this is also you | 14:43 |
| tosky | just a quick update; the full migration to native Zuul v3 jobs has been pre-accepted as V community goal, but we are in a good shape | 14:44 |
| rosmaita | that's good to hear | 14:45 |
| tosky | a few fixes for the cinder-tempest-plugin jobs were merged (https://review.opendev.org/#/c/672804/) and that unblocked the native os-brick jobs (https://review.opendev.org/#/c/697385/) | 14:45 |
| tosky | this review migrates most of the jobs, I think there is just one left: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/671945/ | 14:45 |
| tosky | that one left is tricky; it's a matrix-based job, I could probably easily port it in its current form | 14:46 |
| tosky | it would be nice to have it more in a more zuul-y way (not just "run this script"), but that could wait | 14:46 |
| smcginnis | tosky: Looks like that last one needs to be rebased. | 14:47 |
| tosky | and I prepared a preliminary set of grenade jobs which need to wait until the base grenade jobs are merged in grenade.git (https://review.opendev.org/#/c/709780/) | 14:47 |
| tosky | smcginnis: yeah, that's new | 14:47 |
| tosky | cinderlib and cinderclient are already fine; I don't think there are other Cinder jobs to be considered (or are there?) | 14:48 |
| tosky | that's it; feel free to review and see if anything is missing | 14:48 |
| rosmaita | tosky: thanks for taking the initiative to convert all these jobs | 14:48 |
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| enriquetaso | ++ | 14:49 |
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| rosmaita | #topic open discussion | 14:50 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:50 | |
| smcginnis | I wanted to point out we still have a few py38 failures that will need to be addressed before victoria. | 14:50 |
| rosmaita | how bad are they? | 14:51 |
| smcginnis | It didn't look too bad. Three failures I think. | 14:51 |
| smcginnis | At least in the unit tests. I haven't tried a tempest run yet. | 14:51 |
| rosmaita | not too bad | 14:52 |
| rosmaita | tempest barely works with 3.7 | 14:52 |
| smcginnis | :) | 14:52 |
| rosmaita | so it really won't be a big issue until after RC-1 | 14:54 |
| rosmaita | but if anyone is interested in py3.8, feel free to put up a patch sooner | 14:54 |
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| rosmaita | anything else? | 14:56 |
| enriquetaso | what about the tempest meeting? :P | 14:56 |
| rosmaita | oh, yeah | 14:56 |
| rosmaita | tosky enriquetaso anastzhyr and me are having a quick sync about adding some tempest tests | 14:57 |
| rosmaita | which turns out to be harder than you would think :) | 14:57 |
| rosmaita | https://bluejeans.com/4893731367 | 14:57 |
| rosmaita | for anyone interested | 14:58 |
| rosmaita | we're not going to record, just ask tosky a bunch of questions | 14:58 |
| rosmaita | will start right after this meeting | 14:58 |
| tosky | which he may not be able to answer :D | 14:58 |
| rosmaita | i have faith in you, tosky | 14:59 |
| enriquetaso | :D | 14:59 |
| rosmaita | ok, thanks everyone | 14:59 |
| rosmaita | go forth and make cinder great! | 14:59 |
| rosmaita | #endmeeting | 14:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:00 | |
| whoami-rajat | Thanks!! | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 26 14:59:58 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2020/cinder.2020-02-26-14.00.html | 15:00 |
| jungleboyj | Thanks! | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2020/cinder.2020-02-26-14.00.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2020/cinder.2020-02-26-14.00.log.html | 15:00 |
| LiangFang | thanks | 15:00 |
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| yangziguan | we have completed ci test， but we change accout to commit it. we work in china, ofen pull review.openstack.org timeout. please take a look at the commit https://review.opendev.org/#/c/708673/ . our old commit is https://review.opendev.org/#/c/685271 | 15:04 |
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