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| ifat_afek | #startmeeting vitrage | 08:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 27 08:00:32 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ifat_afek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'vitrage' | 08:00 |
| ifat_afek | Hi :-) | 08:00 |
| Marina_Koushnir | Hi | 08:00 |
| e0ne | morning | 08:00 |
| ifat_afek | #topic Status and updates | 08:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Status and updates (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:02 | |
| ifat_afek | We should tag the final Stein release candidate by tomorrow. I plan to handle it today | 08:02 |
| ifat_afek | We have new bug fixes in vitrage, vitrage-dashboard and vitrage-tempest-plugin. | 08:02 |
| ifat_afek | We already have stable/stein branches for all our projects, and the master can be used for Train development | 08:03 |
| idan_hefetz | cool | 08:03 |
| ifat_afek | These are all my updates today. Anyone else wants to update? | 08:03 |
| e0ne | ifat_afek: according to https://releases.openstack.org/stein/schedule.html, we've got one more week to final RC | 08:03 |
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| ifat_afek | e0ne: you are right… I somehow missed it | 08:04 |
| ifat_afek | in that case, I won’t tag RC2 today. I don’t think we expect more bug fixes, but we can wait for now | 08:04 |
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| ifat_afek | thanks | 08:04 |
| ifat_afek | ok, moving on | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek | #topic Denver Summit | 08:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Denver Summit (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:05 | |
| ifat_afek | This is the updated list of Vitrage sessions for the summit: | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/denver-2019/summit-schedule/global-search?t=vitrage | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek | The Vitrage PTG will be held on Friday morning. PTG etherpad: | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/vitrage-train-ptg | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek | That’s it for me | 08:06 |
| ifat_afek | Seems like one of our shortest meetings… anything else? | 08:06 |
| ifat_afek | have a nice day :-) | 08:08 |
| e0ne | see you next week | 08:08 |
| idan_hefetz | See ya :) | 08:08 |
| ifat_afek | #endmeeting | 08:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 08:08 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 27 08:08:15 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:08 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2019/vitrage.2019-03-27-08.00.html | 08:08 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2019/vitrage.2019-03-27-08.00.txt | 08:08 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2019/vitrage.2019-03-27-08.00.log.html | 08:08 |
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| hrw | will be on a channel but away for first 10-15 minutes due to other duties | 15:00 |
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| mgoddard | #startmeeting kolla | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 27 15:01:38 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mgoddard. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' | 15:01 |
| mgoddard | #topic rollcall | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rollcall (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:02 | |
| mnasiadka | o/ | 15:02 |
| mgoddard | Please raise your virtual hands | 15:02 |
| mgoddard | \o | 15:02 |
| chason | o/ | 15:02 |
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| spsurya | o/ | 15:02 |
| mgoddard | #topic agenda | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:03 | |
| mgoddard | * Roll-call | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | * Announcements | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | ** Kolla is currently in feature freeze | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | ** RC1 target is April 1 - April 5, at which point we will cut stable/stein and unfreeze master | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | * Review action items from last meeting | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | * Kolla whiteboard https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/KollaWhiteBoard | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | * Stein release status | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | * Meeting time change | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | * Virtual PTG | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | * Launchpad vs Storyboard (clean up LP or migrate to Storyboard) | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | #topic announcements | 15:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:04 | |
| mgoddard | #info Kolla is currently in feature freeze | 15:04 |
| egonzalez | o/ sorry im late | 15:05 |
| mgoddard | Please be vigilant about not merging features - bug fixes only until we cut the branch | 15:05 |
| mgoddard | no problem egonzalez | 15:05 |
| mgoddard | #info RC1 target is April 1 - April 5, at which point we will cut stable/stein and unfreeze master | 15:05 |
| mgoddard | continuing with the two week delay from stein release schedule, that puts our RC1 at April 1 - 5 | 15:06 |
| mgoddard | which is next week | 15:06 |
| mgoddard | we can discuss how realistic that is later | 15:06 |
| mgoddard | #topic review action items | 15:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "review action items (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:07 | |
| mgoddard | Last week there were 3 action items | 15:07 |
| mgoddard | 1. Work on the "tech preview" concept | 15:07 |
| mgoddard | did anyone look at this? | 15:07 |
| egonzalez | havent look into it | 15:08 |
| hrw | o/ | 15:08 |
| mgoddard | ok. I guess we should decide before the release if we're going to go with it as a concept | 15:08 |
| mgoddard | hi hrw | 15:08 |
| spsurya | mgoddard: wasn't in last meeting, so not aware about this | 15:08 |
| mgoddard | spsurya: I think it's a way to say that a feature is not fully tested, but is available for use | 15:09 |
| hrw | mgoddard: can we set -1 priority on features patches? it is described as 'branch freeze' in gerrit | 15:09 |
| mgoddard | hrw: does that prevent the patch from being merged? | 15:09 |
| mgoddard | and if you push a new patchset does it remove the -1? | 15:10 |
| hrw | mgoddard: have to check | 15:10 |
| mgoddard | hrw: ok. Sometimes -2 is used | 15:10 |
| mgoddard | Other action items were for me:mgoddard to send to ML about meeting time change | 15:10 |
| mgoddard | mgoddard to ask ML about virtual PTG availability and topics | 15:10 |
| hrw | mgoddard: pushing new patch keeps review priority | 15:10 |
| mgoddard | mgoddard to send to ML about meeting time change | 15:11 |
| mgoddard | hrw: ok, thanks for checking. We'll also need to make sure it blocks the merge | 15:11 |
| mgoddard | I sent out those two ML posts. Thanks to those who replied. If you haven't responded yet about the meeting time in particular, please do | 15:12 |
| mgoddard | virtual PTG too, we have 4 attendees listed currently | 15:12 |
| hrw | handy doodle was created by mandre - link in a thread | 15:12 |
| mgoddard | #link https://doodle.com/poll/y4934shapcc32usx | 15:13 |
| mgoddard | seems like we already have the best time, looking at the doodle :) | 15:13 |
| mgoddard | will leave it open for a while | 15:14 |
| mgoddard | let's move on | 15:14 |
| mgoddard | #topic kolla whiteboard | 15:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "kolla whiteboard (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:14 | |
| mgoddard | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/KollaWhiteBoard | 15:14 |
| * jroll pops his head in late | 15:14 | |
| mgoddard | hi jroll | 15:14 |
| hrw | I like that white board | 15:15 |
| mgoddard | whiteboard claims CI is green, I think this is correct? | 15:15 |
| hrw | mgoddard: heat gave issue due to us using releases not present on server | 15:16 |
| mgoddard | hrw: that issue with cronitor, is it affecting current stable branches or just the version bump patches? | 15:16 |
| hrw | mgoddard: sorry, not looked. was deep in other tasks | 15:16 |
| mgoddard | hrw: yeah, but that doesn't affect the current branches, right? | 15:16 |
| mgoddard | hrw: np | 15:16 |
| mgoddard | we could add links to the zuul builds page on the whiteboard to make it easy to check at a glance | 15:17 |
| mgoddard | not perfect but gives an indication | 15:17 |
| hrw | current branches should be fine with heat stuff | 15:17 |
| hrw | update patches fail | 15:17 |
| mgoddard | e.g. http://zuul.openstack.org/builds?project=openstack%2Fkolla&uuid=master | 15:17 |
| mgoddard | I mean http://zuul.openstack.org/builds?project=openstack%2Fkolla&branch=master | 15:18 |
| mgoddard | could everyone update the status of features they're working on in the whiteboard? | 15:19 |
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| hrw | sure | 15:21 |
| mgoddard | Thanks for looking at the chain of upgrade fixes. Mostly there now, just need https://review.openstack.org/644974 and https://review.openstack.org/616640 | 15:23 |
| mgoddard | Who is brave enough to look at the upgrade CI job? | 15:23 |
| mgoddard | ... | 15:23 |
| mgoddard | :) | 15:23 |
| mnasiadka | We need to be brave enough to merge and monitor bugs/issues :) | 15:24 |
| mgoddard | everyone ready to move on? | 15:24 |
| hrw | mnasiadka: so +2 it! | 15:24 |
| mgoddard | mnasiadka: pffft | 15:24 |
| mnasiadka | hrw: will do | 15:24 |
| mgoddard | mnasiadka: you are correct. I've been slowly trying to work through some | 15:24 |
| mgoddard | I think we need to have a bug review meeting at some point | 15:25 |
| mgoddard | I asked cores to look through any bugs opened by them or assigned to them, hoping it would clear some out | 15:26 |
| mgoddard | please do so if you haven't already | 15:26 |
| mnasiadka | I’ll try to do some reporting on bugs and find the really old ones that should be marked invalid. | 15:26 |
| mgoddard | thanks mnasiadka | 15:26 |
| hrw | no bugs on me | 15:26 |
| mgoddard | this gives me an idea for the open discussion | 15:26 |
| mgoddard | let's move on | 15:27 |
| mgoddard | #topic Stein release status | 15:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stein release status (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:27 | |
| mgoddard | We're currently in feature freeze, next week is notionally RC1 week if we stick to a 2 week lag | 15:27 |
| mgoddard | How realistic is that? | 15:27 |
| mgoddard | I guess at a minimum, we need the patch that switches to Stein versions in kolla | 15:28 |
| spsurya | shouldn't be any issue i think | 15:28 |
| egonzalez | is ok, but we have to wait until rdo creates stein repos outside dlrn | 15:28 |
| mgoddard | which means we need those dependencies to be release | 15:28 |
| egonzalez | pacakges are tested, but repos changes | 15:28 |
| hrw | mgoddard: most of them are now | 15:29 |
| hrw | but only most. | 15:29 |
| mgoddard | hrw: last I checked they were mostly rc1 | 15:29 |
| mnasiadka | And resolve all package name changes (such as the heat one), I’m sure more will come. | 15:29 |
| hrw | right, final release... | 15:29 |
| mgoddard | Looking at https://releases.openstack.org/stein/schedule.html, the stein release is 8th - 12th April | 15:30 |
| hrw | so kolla 22th? | 15:30 |
| mgoddard | Should we even RC1/branch before then, given that we won't have all the deps in place? | 15:30 |
| mgoddard | Just trying to get my head around the scheduling dependencies here | 15:30 |
| mgoddard | I want to write all this stuff up. Kolla is sufficiently different from other projects that we need our own PTL & release guide | 15:31 |
| egonzalez | in previous release we've tagged rc1 with at least tarballs changed and revert the changes later | 15:31 |
| hrw | mgoddard: I think that we can rc1 on 1st April with whatever got released by other projects and then for rc2 have requirement that all projects need to be released before our rc2 | 15:31 |
| egonzalez | last release, rdo was a bit late creating repos so we pushed directly to stable/branch | 15:31 |
| egonzalez | the final release was like 3 week after openstack final release | 15:32 |
| hrw | I am off next week - Linaro Connect | 15:32 |
| mgoddard | #info hrw away next week | 15:32 |
| mnasiadka | Final RCs for normal project are next week, so we might aim for rc1 one/two weeks later if things are stable | 15:33 |
| mgoddard | I suppose that we could release an RC that depends on other projects RCs, rather than waiting for final releases | 15:34 |
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| hrw | +1 | 15:34 |
| mnasiadka | +1 | 15:35 |
| mgoddard | ok, let's at least see how it looks next week. If there are still lots missing we can delay, but otherwise aim to RC1 & branch with what's availabel | 15:35 |
| egonzalez | many services runs independent and doesnt follow release calendar | 15:35 |
| mgoddard | #info Kolla to RC1 & branch next week, assuming most dependencies are in place | 15:35 |
| egonzalez | like kuryr | 15:35 |
| hrw | egonzalez: still need to stick to something | 15:36 |
| mgoddard | egonzalez: what do we normally do with those? Pick the latest release? | 15:36 |
| egonzalez | hrm, let me check, i think last time we used latest version | 15:36 |
| mgoddard | I guess if we pick the latest at the time, then only minor bump on the branch | 15:36 |
| egonzalez | some have branch tarball | 15:38 |
| mgoddard | ok, since this is my first release rodeo, let's try to build up my TODO list | 15:38 |
| mgoddard | I have this so far: | 15:38 |
| mgoddard | * cycle highlights (done) | 15:38 |
| hrw | mgoddard: store it in kolla/doc/releasenotes.md ;D | 15:38 |
| mgoddard | * tidy up release notes prior to branch cut | 15:39 |
| mgoddard | * Update OpenStack service versions (patch in progress) | 15:39 |
| mgoddard | * Modify RDO repo to use stable (thanks for the reminder egonzalez) | 15:39 |
| mgoddard | * Propose RC1 tag & branch to releases repo | 15:40 |
| mgoddard | * Unfreeze master, revert stein versions & RDO | 15:40 |
| mgoddard | * Propose RC$N and final release tags to releases | 15:41 |
| mgoddard | * After release, every $N days, bump openstack service versions on all branches & minor release | 15:42 |
| mgoddard | So what did I miss? :) | 15:42 |
| egonzalez | RDO repos will be likely after rc1, just asked at #rdo channel | 15:42 |
| mgoddard | Jeffrey4l: you around? | 15:43 |
| mgoddard | egonzalez: are there other repos that need updating? | 15:43 |
| egonzalez | globals.yml point to stein | 15:43 |
| mgoddard | UCA just stays on stein right? | 15:43 |
| egonzalez | oraclelinux rdo url, is different place | 15:44 |
| mgoddard | ok | 15:44 |
| mgoddard | by globals.yml, you mean openstack_release? | 15:44 |
| mgoddard | in group_vars/all.yml? | 15:44 |
| egonzalez | yes | 15:44 |
| hrw | mgoddard: UCA has repo per openstack release | 15:44 |
| hrw | mgoddard: so once train starts we move to train in train | 15:45 |
| mgoddard | looks like we need to set kolla_source_version in group_vars/all.yml | 15:45 |
| egonzalez | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/600328/ | 15:46 |
| egonzalez | ^^ thats the rpm repos change | 15:46 |
| mgoddard | nice, I even reviewed it :) | 15:46 |
| mgoddard | ok. If anyone thinks of anything I haven't included, let me know | 15:47 |
| egonzalez | we dont miss anything i think | 15:47 |
| mgoddard | great | 15:47 |
| mgoddard | #topic Meeting time change | 15:47 |
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| mgoddard | had quite a few replies to the doodle. Current favourite is... 1500UTC! | 15:48 |
| hrw | looks like not so many interested people in apac | 15:49 |
| mgoddard | I'll wait for anyone else to reply | 15:49 |
| egonzalez | 1500 is 1 our early right? im not really good with timezones | 15:49 |
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| mgoddard | I guess another question to ask is, is there anyone who would like to attend at 1500 but can't make it on wednesdays | 15:50 |
| hrw | śro, 27 mar 2019, 15:50:08 UTC | 15:50 |
| hrw | 15:00 UTC is current meeting time | 15:50 |
| mgoddard | I'll put that question on the ML, just in case | 15:50 |
| mgoddard | #action mgoddard to ask ML whether wednesday 1500UTC suits everyone who wants to attend | 15:51 |
| mgoddard | #topic virtual PTG | 15:51 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "virtual PTG (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:51 | |
| egonzalez | probably need to reach spsurya chason and others from asia directly, none of them replied yet | 15:51 |
| mgoddard | both are in this meeting, the link was pasted earlier | 15:51 |
| chason | current meeting time is OK for me. :D | 15:52 |
| mgoddard | great | 15:52 |
| mgoddard | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-train-ptg | 15:52 |
| spsurya | egonzalez: mgoddard fine for me too | 15:52 |
| mgoddard | we have 4 attendees for the virtual PTG so far. Any other takers? Please add your name on the pad | 15:52 |
| mgoddard | And feel free to propose topics while you're there | 15:53 |
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| mgoddard | #topic Launchpad vs Storyboard | 15:54 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Launchpad vs Storyboard (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:54 | |
| mgoddard | mnasiadka raised this. Should we switch? | 15:54 |
| hrw | what is storyboard? | 15:54 |
| mgoddard | #link http://storyboard.openstack.org | 15:55 |
| egonzalez | last time we discussed there was missing features in storyboard like release management | 15:55 |
| mnasiadka | Still it’s not there | 15:55 |
| mgoddard | I believe that is still the case | 15:55 |
| mnasiadka | We would need to stay on lp for release mgmt | 15:55 |
| mgoddard | What do we want from release management here? Being able to list which release a bug/feature was fixed/added in? | 15:56 |
| hrw | I would prefer to stay on LP. know it already so do not have to learn storyboard just for one project | 15:57 |
| mgoddard | Having used storyboard for various other projects, I can't say I am desperate to move to it | 15:57 |
| hrw | but I do not use LP much with kolla so +0 to either change | 15:58 |
| mgoddard | It is quite a lot simpler, which is nice, but probably missing things vs LP | 15:58 |
| mgoddard | Not hearing anyone shouting for it, let's punt to the U cycle | 15:58 |
| mnasiadka | Let’s clean up bugs, releases, etc in lp | 15:59 |
| mgoddard | mnasiadka: +1 I think our time would be better spent on that | 15:59 |
| mgoddard | #topic open discussion | 15:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:59 | |
| mgoddard | 1 minute left, a nice segue to... | 15:59 |
| mgoddard | bug czar! | 15:59 |
| mgoddard | I was looking at the PTL page, there are apparently various things I can delegate | 16:00 |
| mgoddard | anyone want to volunteer to be bug czar? | 16:00 |
| mgoddard | if so, please respond in #openstack-kolla | 16:00 |
| mgoddard | Thanks for attending everyone | 16:01 |
| mgoddard | #endmeeting | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 16:01 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 27 16:01:13 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2019/kolla.2019-03-27-15.01.html | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2019/kolla.2019-03-27-15.01.txt | 16:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2019/kolla.2019-03-27-15.01.log.html | 16:01 |
| hrw | thx | 16:02 |
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