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| portdirect | #startmeeting openstack-helm | 15:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 5 15:01:14 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is portdirect. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_helm' | 15:01 |
| portdirect | #topic rollcall | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rollcall (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:01 | |
| howell | o/ | 15:01 |
| portdirect | lets give it 5 mins for people to arrive | 15:01 |
| georgk | hello | 15:01 |
| portdirect | Agenda is here, add away: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-helm-meeting-2019-02-05 | 15:02 |
| srwilkers | o/ | 15:02 |
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| portdirect | ok - lets go | 15:06 |
| portdirect | #topic how to deliver and deploy kernel modules needed by a container? | 15:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "how to deliver and deploy kernel modules needed by a container? (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:06 | |
| portdirect | srwilkers: this is yours | 15:06 |
| srwilkers | nope, that's not me | 15:06 |
| georgk | it was my question | 15:06 |
| portdirect | oh - sorry! | 15:06 |
| georgk | it comes up in the contesxt of running DPDK | 15:06 |
| portdirect | so in the etherpad i mentioned how we are doing this today | 15:07 |
| georgk | I saw the init container but misunderstood that the module needs to reside on the host, not the container | 15:07 |
| portdirect | yeah - thats a gap in this approach for sure | 15:07 |
| portdirect | in that we dont attempt to install modules - just load them | 15:07 |
| * mattmceuen o/ sorry I'm late | 15:08 | |
| georgk | makes, sense. Now I need to figure out how to get the kernel modules on the host OS. | 15:08 |
| georgk | DPDK delivered with 16.04 is quite old | 15:08 |
| portdirect | this is where having mattmceuen about helps :) | 15:08 |
| georgk | and I´d like to make use of a newer version | 15:08 |
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| portdirect | as i assume your q is in the context of airship? | 15:08 |
| georgk | might be more an Airship question, not openstack-helm | 15:08 |
| portdirect | its both for sure | 15:09 |
| georgk | right, I can take this to the airship channel | 15:09 |
| mattmceuen | ty georgk, I'm catching up :) let's discuss there | 15:09 |
| portdirect | in osh - we say you can load modules, but getting them there is out of scope (up to a point) | 15:09 |
| portdirect | but things like minimirror should help cloase that gap quickly | 15:09 |
| georgk | ok | 15:09 |
| portdirect | mattmceuen: not sure if you have any info to hand about loading custom repos etc? | 15:10 |
| mattmceuen | absolutely - there is some airship scope on the cusp to help with this! | 15:11 |
| georgk | I ´ll catch mattmceuen in the airship channel after this meeting | 15:12 |
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| portdirect | nice - thanks guys - though rememebr mini-mirror can be use outside of airship as well :) | 15:12 |
| portdirect | I'm looking forward to seeing rpm support for sure. | 15:12 |
| portdirect | ok lets move on | 15:13 |
| portdirect | #topic Docs TOC draft | 15:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Docs TOC draft (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:13 | |
| portdirect | so as we discussed last week - I've boshed together a very rough draft for an, ahem, idealised set of docs for osh | 15:13 |
| portdirect | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/634944/1/doc/source/index.rst | 15:14 |
| portdirect | lets get some eyes on this - at this stage, lets concentrate on the content, rather than rst formatting etc | 15:14 |
| portdirect | and once its developed a bit we can start to flesh out the supporting structure behind it | 15:14 |
| srwilkers | sounds good | 15:15 |
| portdirect | in particular it would be great to get the eyes of people new to OSH on these | 15:15 |
| portdirect | so we can try to get a structure in place that helps people enagage both in the project, but also use its deliverables. | 15:15 |
| georgk | +1 | 15:16 |
| portdirect | i know its a quite meeting this week - so lets move on, but I'll also bring this up in irc etc for those that are not here today | 15:18 |
| portdirect | #topic K8S slack #openstack-helm channel | 15:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "K8S slack #openstack-helm channel (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:18 | |
| portdirect | so for a long time we have been in the wonderful position of having a dedicated slack channel given to use by the CNCF in their k8s slack | 15:19 |
| portdirect | we have been as custodians, and to put it bluntly, bad citizens there | 15:19 |
| portdirect | the channel has over 500 active memebers | 15:19 |
| portdirect | who have done a wonderful job of self organising and supporting each other | 15:20 |
| srwilkers | that's really unfortunate | 15:20 |
| portdirect | sorry to lay down the hammer like this | 15:20 |
| portdirect | but I think at a minimum, all cores in OSH should be present in that channel | 15:20 |
| srwilkers | is there no longer the possibility of syncing both chats anymore? | 15:20 |
| portdirect | and we need to provide some support to its memebers | 15:20 |
| portdirect | not that im aware of atm - though I'm gonna try to find some infra to set up a bridge | 15:21 |
| mattmceuen | will do portdirect, sad to say I didn't realize the need was there | 15:21 |
| srwilkers | also genuinely curious -- why not try and direct them here? i feel supporting two distinct chats is going to not only be difficult to do, but will result in potential missed messages between users who only use one | 15:22 |
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| srwilkers | which of course, a bridge solves that | 15:22 |
| portdirect | honestly - the numbers suggest if a shift were to occur that it would make sense to move our primary channel from irc to slack | 15:22 |
| portdirect | but as thats got its own challenges - i think a bridge is the long term solution | 15:23 |
| srwilkers | it is | 15:23 |
| portdirect | in simple terms - we have 66 people in IRC and 567 in slack at this point in time | 15:23 |
| srwilkers | is there any way to at least post a channel message that informs them of our weekly meetings at a minimum? i think getting them engaged in that alone adds immense value | 15:24 |
| portdirect | im working with the slack admins atm | 15:24 |
| srwilkers | okay | 15:24 |
| portdirect | i expect that in place by EOD :) | 15:24 |
| srwilkers | cool | 15:24 |
| portdirect | ok - lets move on | 15:25 |
| portdirect | #topic Parkinglot | 15:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Parkinglot (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:25 | |
| portdirect | anything else people want to discuss this week? | 15:26 |
| arunkant | Hi, new to this channel. I was wondering where to enter topics for this meeting. Upstream agenda link shows old meetings only.. | 15:27 |
| arunkant | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-helm-meeting-agenda | 15:27 |
| srwilkers | arunkant: typically they'll be posted in the #openstack-helm channel at some point before the meeting begins | 15:28 |
| portdirect | arunkant: we use the format: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-helm-meeting-YYYY-MM-DD | 15:29 |
| portdirect | we should update that doc to reflect this | 15:29 |
| arunkant | okay. So should I add the topics to that etherpad or just somehow specify to IRC openstack-helm channel ? | 15:31 |
| portdirect | arunkant: feel free to add to it | 15:31 |
| srwilkers | Might be valuable to just start creating the etherpad for the following weeks meeting at the end of each weekly meeting | 15:31 |
| portdirect | anything you want to bring up this week? we have another 30 mins | 15:31 |
| portdirect | good point srwilkers | 15:31 |
| arunkant | portdirect: okay. | 15:31 |
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| arunkant | portdirect: Yes, I have review around adding changes related to another distro support in keystone service, specifically around opensuse based image. | 15:33 |
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| arunkant | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/633847/ | 15:33 |
| portdirect | ah yes! | 15:33 |
| portdirect | really cool to see this work | 15:33 |
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| portdirect | are there opensuse images avalible? | 15:34 |
| arunkant | I want to see how to approach this common problem which we will see when we need to support distros other than default ubuntu .. | 15:34 |
| portdirect | i think we should look to adress this properly so we can make thinks like opensuse a 1st class citizen in osh | 15:34 |
| portdirect | yup | 15:34 |
| portdirect | to me it seems this should come in phases | 15:34 |
| srwilkers | Agreed - this will be pretty exciting to flesh out | 15:35 |
| portdirect | we should get a spec up for multiple-distro support | 15:35 |
| srwilkers | ++ | 15:35 |
| arunkant | portdirect: yes, there are loci images available | 15:35 |
| portdirect | and then get some images to use (and build them in zuul) | 15:35 |
| portdirect | arunkant: we need to get this pushing dockerhub: https://github.com/openstack/openstack-helm-images/blob/master/openstack/loci/build.sh | 15:36 |
| portdirect | the most important thing i think - is that we are able to gate on non-ubuntu images | 15:36 |
| portdirect | but this should be articulated in the spec | 15:37 |
| portdirect | would you be able to take on writing it? | 15:37 |
| arunkant | portdirect: yes, I think evrardjp is working on it. | 15:37 |
| portdirect | great - look forward to seeing a ps for it | 15:37 |
| portdirect | looking at the ps you have - i think if we own the apache config a bit more - then the only diff required will be to specify the apache config we want to use | 15:38 |
| portdirect | which means we wont need to toggle on params to use the default config locations between distros | 15:39 |
| arunkant | portdirect: Okay..will circle back on spec aspect of this. Just curious, what are thoughts on how support for multiple distros need to be handled. | 15:39 |
| portdirect | 1) spec, 2) images, 3) gates | 15:39 |
| arunkant | portdirect: okay :) .. then I should get that spec working.. | 15:40 |
| portdirect | the only things i think we will see distro specific issues with are services that use apache | 15:40 |
| portdirect | up until late last year i was mostly using centos personally | 15:40 |
| portdirect | with the exeption of keystone and nova-placement | 15:40 |
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| arunkant | portdirect: I can see cinder may have some issues as well as expected storage binaries location might be different. | 15:43 |
| portdirect | roger | 15:43 |
| portdirect | though that should be just a case of rootwrap and cinder.conf over-rides? | 15:44 |
| arunkant | portdirect: yes, might be. I recall seeing cinder error with suse image locally..need to investigate further. | 15:45 |
| portdirect | nice | 15:45 |
| portdirect | would be great to see the work suse is doing here | 15:45 |
| arunkant | protdirect: thanks. Will work on getting spec out. That's it from me about this topic. | 15:45 |
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| portdirect | ok - any other topics? | 15:48 |
| srwilkers | nothing from me -- been a quiet week for me | 15:48 |
| portdirect | ok - lets wrap up - thanks everybody :D | 15:49 |
| portdirect | #endmeeting | 15:49 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:49 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 5 15:49:26 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:49 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2019/openstack_helm.2019-02-05-15.01.html | 15:49 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2019/openstack_helm.2019-02-05-15.01.txt | 15:49 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2019/openstack_helm.2019-02-05-15.01.log.html | 15:49 |
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