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| jokke_ | Courtesy meeting reminder on #openstack-meeting-4: flwang1, jokke_, mclaren, mfedosin, nikhil_k, rosmaita, GB21, bpoulos, harshs, abhishekk, dshakhray, kairat, alex_bash, smcginnis, arcolife, Brin, Roamer` | 13:59 |
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| jokke_ | #startmeeting glance | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 21 14:00:11 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jokke_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 14:00 |
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| jokke_ | #topic roll-call | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll-call (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:00 | |
| abhishekk | o/ | 14:00 |
| jokke_ | o/ | 14:00 |
| rosmaita | o/ | 14:00 |
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| smcginnis | o/ | 14:01 |
| jokke_ | ok. I have nothing special for updates, so lets use the meeting time effectively | 14:01 |
| jokke_ | #topic release updates | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "release updates (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:01 | |
| rosmaita | hello | 14:02 |
| abhishekk | welcome back | 14:02 |
| rosmaita | periodic jobs: all showing green | 14:02 |
| rosmaita | thanks! | 14:02 |
| rosmaita | just some reminders of upcoming deadlines: | 14:02 |
| rosmaita | this week is R-minus-10 | 14:02 |
| rosmaita | R-minus-6: final glance_store Rocky release (July 18) | 14:02 |
| rosmaita | R-minus-5: final glanceclient Rocky release (July 25) | 14:02 |
| rosmaita | R-minus-3: RC-1 (August 8) | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | those dates are all wednesdays, it usually takes a day to get everything through the final gate | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | and, finally, bug squad meeting coming up on monday at 10:00 UTC | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | that's all from me | 14:04 |
| jokke_ | cool | 14:04 |
| jokke_ | #topic client-side validation | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "client-side validation (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:04 | |
| jokke_ | you can continue | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | ok | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | i noticed a new patch that wants to detect too long tag length in the client and error out without making a call to glance | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/576458 | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | this approach was pretty much rejected for making that kind of change in the client code itself: | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/429518/ | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | the bug is here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1640442 | 14:06 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1640442 in Glance "glance image-tag-update, not updating a tag whose length is more than 255" [Undecided,Confirmed] - Assigned to lihaijing (lihaijing) | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | stuart had some good comments about why not to do it | 14:06 |
| smcginnis | Would it ever be longer than 255? | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | i think it's a db restriction | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | but it could be made shorter | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | and more to your point, we could change the db | 14:07 |
| jokke_ | that it is, but because it's schema driven it might be shorter | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | (sorry, still in vacation mode) | 14:07 |
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| rosmaita | yeah, so if the schema changes, we really don't want to be changing a bunch of outdated code | 14:08 |
| smcginnis | Just wonder, if it could be less but we never expect it to be more than 255, is there harm in detecting that on the client side and saving a round trip? | 14:08 |
| jokke_ | this clearly doesn't seem to go through, so how about I'm the evil here and go to -2 both of those and mark the bug back to invalid :P | 14:08 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: also it might be operator thing to change the schema and they definitely don't want to be changing hardcoded values | 14:09 |
| rosmaita | smcginnis the problem is that we've got 2 different codebases, the schema is the go-between to keep things in sync | 14:09 |
| rosmaita | jokke_ that is a good point | 14:09 |
| rosmaita | it is do-able, though not encouraged | 14:09 |
| jokke_ | smcginnis: that is already validated in the client | 14:09 |
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| rosmaita | yeah, to be clear, this could be fixed by translating the 400 response from the API to something more user-friendly | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | i think i said that on one of the patches | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | but hard-coding the value is not a good idea | 14:10 |
| jokke_ | IIRC that 400 is raised by client | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | my real point is that we should just close these out if we're not going to accept the patches | 14:10 |
| abhishekk | ++ | 14:10 |
| jokke_ | the client at least should validate outgoing requests against the schema | 14:11 |
| rosmaita | jokke_ you are most likely correct there | 14:11 |
| rosmaita | so we are already saving the trip to the API | 14:11 |
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| jokke_ | yup | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | i think if someone wanted to take on the task to make the errors more user-friendly that would be OK, but it's not necessary | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | so i vote for jokke_ to be the bad guy and -2 everything and abandon them | 14:12 |
| smcginnis | +1 | 14:13 |
| abhishekk | +1 | 14:13 |
| jokke_ | the original request was to get more user friendly and informational error from client that I encouraged to do and neither of the people who started working on this wanted to do that but instead tried to do some stupid hardcoding into the client | 14:13 |
| jokke_ | ok, will drop those things | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | yeah, the hard coding is easier to implement but a bigger pain to maintain | 14:14 |
| jokke_ | and it's just in general bad idea | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | jokke_ you could repeat what you just said when you invalidate the bug | 14:14 |
| jokke_ | specially on something thta gets validated against schema | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | ++ | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | ok, that's all i had on that topic | 14:15 |
| jokke_ | ok | 14:15 |
| jokke_ | #topic open discussion | 14:15 |
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| jokke_ | so I have been trying to get some sense out of the message queue stuff and getting rid of v1 | 14:16 |
| jokke_ | and we need to review abhishek's multi-store stuff so we can get to an agreement before we need to release the final from glance_store | 14:16 |
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| abhishekk | I have uploaded patches for multiple backends support, unit tests for glance_store and client are done | 14:17 |
| abhishekk | pending is unit tests for glance and functional tests for glance | 14:17 |
| rosmaita | abhishekk: good work | 14:17 |
| jokke_ | so as usual the end of the cycle is approaching quick and we have hell of a lot to do | 14:17 |
| abhishekk | thanks :D | 14:17 |
| rosmaita | i'll commit to reviewing the glance_store change later today | 14:18 |
| abhishekk | I have uploaded documentation patch as well, need eyes on the language :D | 14:18 |
| rosmaita | you have been busy! | 14:18 |
| abhishekk | rosmaita, tough task is to write meaningful functional tests | 14:19 |
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| abhishekk | jokke_, as suggested I have mentioned experimental thing in docs | 14:19 |
| jokke_ | goodie | 14:19 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: yes, so I think you were in holidays when we discussed this | 14:19 |
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| rosmaita | i saw something in the channel logs | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | experimental in rocky, stable in stein? | 14:20 |
| abhishekk | also on these are some scenarios which I have tested | 14:20 |
| jokke_ | we agreed to stamp the multi-store EXPERIMENTAL so we can gather feedback and make changes still next cycle if needed | 14:20 |
| abhishekk | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/multi-store-scenarios | 14:20 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: correct | 14:20 |
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| rosmaita | makes sense to me | 14:20 |
| jokke_ | this should be easy thing to get that feedback | 14:21 |
| abhishekk | yeah that was a super idea | 14:21 |
| jokke_ | as this feature has been requested for so long | 14:21 |
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| jokke_ | If any of you have nothing else, I think we can free 35min today | 14:23 |
| jokke_ | or all of you | 14:24 |
| abhishekk | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/251471/ | 14:24 |
| abhishekk | oslo.config has a support for mutable config options | 14:24 |
| abhishekk | we can see how we can use it in glance | 14:25 |
| jokke_ | I'd like to say, lets worry about that in Stein if this approach sticks | 14:26 |
| abhishekk | sounds good | 14:26 |
| rosmaita | yeah, i don't like the "this is the second attempt at implementing this" comment | 14:26 |
| smcginnis | The goal for this release is just to support log levels, which I think handles that. | 14:26 |
| jokke_ | ohh ... rosmaita you guys have any updates about multi-hash? | 14:26 |
| rosmaita | nope | 14:26 |
| smcginnis | But good follow up for everyone to think about whether there are any other config options that can be changed at runtime. | 14:26 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: is that expectation that it will not be ready in Rocky? | 14:27 |
| rosmaita | not yet | 14:27 |
| jokke_ | as IIUC that needs store change as well | 14:27 |
| jokke_ | so it's bit tighter | 14:27 |
| rosmaita | yes, store change will have to merge first | 14:27 |
| abhishekk | anything on hide old images? | 14:27 |
| rosmaita | nope | 14:27 |
| abhishekk | if anyone is not working then I might take that after next week | 14:28 |
| rosmaita | no objection from me! | 14:28 |
| abhishekk | ok | 14:28 |
| rosmaita | jokke_ : here is a patch moving some implemented rocky specs to 'implemented': https://review.openstack.org/576996 | 14:28 |
| rosmaita | that will make it easier for moving more specs over the next few weeks | 14:29 |
| rosmaita | :) | 14:29 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: cheers ... will have a look. I was planning to do that at once when going through what renos we need, but that is gr8 start for it | 14:30 |
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| jokke_ | nice to have the bits in place to do it | 14:30 |
| rosmaita | yeah, both specs moved already have releasenotes | 14:30 |
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| jokke_ | goodie | 14:31 |
| jokke_ | ok, anything else? | 14:31 |
| abhishekk | nothing from me | 14:31 |
| rosmaita | i have one more review, a spec-lite implementation for glance_store, if anyone wants to look: https://review.openstack.org/577011 | 14:31 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: yeah saw that | 14:32 |
| jokke_ | that should not interfere with either multi back-end nor multi-hash so I think that is fine | 14:33 |
| rosmaita | i agree | 14:33 |
| jokke_ | I'd like to make really strong point that _if_ we are going to merge those, we need to prioritize them and apart from those 2 the top priority is to find a way we get rid of the /v1/ endpoint even if the underlying code cleanup gets done later | 14:35 |
| jokke_ | I don't want to find any new excuses from anyone why we should not get rid of v1 | 14:35 |
| smcginnis | ++ | 14:36 |
| abhishekk | sounds good | 14:36 |
| jokke_ | which reminds me, did you rosmaita get the grenade/tempest stuff sorted so that there is the option to disable the tests relying on that endpoint? | 14:36 |
| jokke_ | I remember you looking into it early at the cycle around PTG | 14:37 |
| rosmaita | i think you are referring to the ability for glanceclient to test against both v1 and v2 even if v1 is removed from glance? | 14:37 |
| rosmaita | that has merged | 14:37 |
| rosmaita | the glanceclient v1 tests are currently being run against stable/queens glance | 14:38 |
| jokke_ | it was that one, yes I think that was the biggest blocker to get rid of those | 14:38 |
| jokke_ | gr8 ... I will have another look what breaks when removing the endpoint by end of this week | 14:38 |
| jokke_ | ok, I think that's all ... Thanks Everyone! | 14:39 |
| abhishekk | thank you all, have a nice day ahead!!! | 14:39 |
| jokke_ | yell if something else | 14:39 |
| jokke_ | going 1st | 14:39 |
| rosmaita | bye everyone! | 14:39 |
| jokke_ | going 2nd | 14:39 |
| smcginnis | Thanks! | 14:39 |
| jokke_ | #endmeeting | 14:39 |
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