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| ifat_afek | #startmeeting vitrage | 08:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 20 08:00:49 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ifat_afek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'vitrage' | 08:00 |
| ifat_afek | Hi :-) | 08:00 |
| e0ne | hi | 08:01 |
| eyalb | \o/ | 08:01 |
| idankin | Hi | 08:01 |
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| najjar | hi \o/ | 08:02 |
| annarez | Hi :) | 08:02 |
| ifat_afek | Agenda: | 08:04 |
| ifat_afek | •Status and updates | 08:04 |
| ifat_afek | •StoryBoard migration | 08:04 |
| ifat_afek | •Open discussion | 08:04 |
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| ifat_afek | #topic Status and updates | 08:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Status and updates (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:04 | |
| ifat_afek | The Technical Committee published new guidelines for code reviews | 08:04 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/review-the-openstack-way.html | 08:04 |
| ifat_afek | I think that the main change is: don’t -1 and block the change for minor issues. It is better to approve with comments, and fix them later in a follow-up change. | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek | Reminder: Berlin CFP is open! We can submit session proposals until July 17th, so start thinking about ideas. | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/berlin-2018/call-for-presentations/ | 08:05 |
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| ifat_afek | Another update is about Heat. In the self-healing forum in Vancouver I’ve had a discussion with Rico Lin, the Heat PTL, about integration Vitrage in Heat. | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek | eyalb and I continued this discussion via mail, and we are thinking about implementing the following scenario: | 08:06 |
| ifat_afek | Network failure -> monitored using an external monitor -> notify Vitrage -> trigger Mistral workflow for healing the Heat stack | 08:06 |
| ifat_afek | We have demonstrated similar scenarios in the past, but the difference is that this time it will be managed by Heat: in the HOT template the user will specify the trigger and the Mistral healing workflow. | 08:06 |
| annarez | Cool! | 08:06 |
| ifat_afek | We are going to write a detailed desing in an etherpad and publish it, so you’ll be able to comment and add ideas. It should be done today or tomorrow | 08:07 |
| ifat_afek | And we hope to finish this integration in Rocky | 08:07 |
| eyalb | +2 | 08:07 |
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| ifat_afek | That’s it for me. Anyone else wants to update? | 08:08 |
| najjar | I'll update. | 08:08 |
| najjar | regarding to Prometheus... the datasource is ready \o/ | 08:09 |
| najjar | but | 08:09 |
| najjar | i'm working on vitrage ap to correctly get Prometheus alarms | 08:10 |
| najjar | this requests some changes in api and adding another authentication method | 08:11 |
| eyalb | we should configure the api-paste.ini for the path for post event to use a different auth plugin | 08:11 |
| najjar | requires* | 08:11 |
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| najjar | eyalb okey | 08:12 |
| eyalb | or even not to use authentication at all | 08:12 |
| e0ne | najjar: is it backward-compatible change in the api? | 08:12 |
| eyalb | yes | 08:12 |
| e0ne | ok | 08:12 |
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| najjar | e0ne for now the answer is yes | 08:13 |
| ifat_afek | e0ne: I think the main problem with the vitrage event post API is that it was written for test purposes for OPNFV Doctor project | 08:13 |
| ifat_afek | And it was never used with real monitors | 08:13 |
| ifat_afek | So now we are trying to make it work “for real”, and we hope not to change the API | 08:13 |
| e0ne | :( | 08:13 |
| najjar | e0ne does this has any affect in your side ? | 08:14 |
| ifat_afek | Doctor project defined a “SB API” that should be used by an Inspector component (Vitrage in this case), and I implemented the API by their definitions | 08:14 |
| e0ne | I'm working on upgrades stuff, so I worry about backward compatibility | 08:14 |
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| ifat_afek | But until you use something for real, you are not sure it’s ok | 08:14 |
| ifat_afek | But this is API, no DB involved | 08:15 |
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| ifat_afek | So does it still affect you? | 08:15 |
| e0ne | I hope, no | 08:15 |
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| eyalb | if the api will change we can use v2 | 08:16 |
| e0ne | it will be easier to answer when patch with api change will be in gerrit | 08:16 |
| ifat_afek | Sure | 08:16 |
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| e0ne | eyalb: or microversion | 08:16 |
| eyalb | yes | 08:16 |
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| ifat_afek | e0ne: regarding the upgrade - suppose you finish it and everything will be OK. Will there be a test that automatically breaks next time we do DB changes? | 08:17 |
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| ifat_afek | Just wondering :-) | 08:17 |
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| e0ne | ifat_afek: sure, db migrations are in progress | 08:18 |
| e0ne | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/575150/ | 08:18 |
| e0ne | we're hitting with config-related issues now | 08:19 |
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| ifat_afek | I know, I’m just not familiar with the process. My question was will we know next time we do something wrong ;-) and I see that there are some tests in this change | 08:19 |
| e0ne | it's mostly because vitrage uses oslo.config in a different way than other projects do :( | 08:19 |
| ifat_afek | What’s different? | 08:19 |
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| e0ne | ifat_afek: in general, we should have db migrations tests | 08:20 |
| ifat_afek | Ok, thanks | 08:20 |
| e0ne | ifat_afek: backward incompatible api changes and config changes will handled by grenade job | 08:20 |
| e0ne | #link https://review.openstack.org/575115 | 08:20 |
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| e0ne | grenade job is almost ready | 08:20 |
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| ifat_afek | Sounds great | 08:21 |
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| e0ne | I need to add some tests into that, but I would like to do it step-by-step and implement tests in a follow-up patch | 08:21 |
| ifat_afek | So what is the problem with oslo.config? | 08:21 |
| e0ne | so, if anybody have time, please, review it | 08:22 |
| e0ne | ifat_afek: not really problem, but.. | 08:22 |
| ifat_afek | Sure, I wasn’t sure if it’s ready for review. I will review it later today | 08:22 |
| e0ne | we build config object in vitrage.service.prepare_service method | 08:22 |
| e0ne | and pass that instance into all service instances | 08:23 |
| e0ne | that's why we need some dirty hacks in tests | 08:23 |
| e0ne | for note: I'm not saying that it's bad. I'm saying that everybody follow other approach | 08:24 |
| e0ne | #link https://docs.openstack.org/oslo.config/latest/reference/cfg.html#global-configopts | 08:24 |
| e0ne | ^^ it's how we can deal with config | 08:24 |
| ifat_afek | idan_hefetz is not here now, I think he knows it better than me. But can you please explain why is it causing problems? | 08:24 |
| e0ne | current approach requires separate config options registration for tests and services | 08:25 |
| e0ne | it leads to code dublication | 08:25 |
| ifat_afek | We might need to make some changes to the way we hold config opts due to the “enable mutable configuration” community goal, but we didn’t look into it yet. | 08:25 |
| e0ne | and we've got different code flow in tests and in the services | 08:25 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://governance.openstack.org/tc/goals/rocky/enable-mutable-configuration.html | 08:25 |
| e0ne | ifat_afek: ++++ | 08:26 |
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| e0ne | but AFAIK for this once. we need to use oslo_config.cfg.CONF object everywhere, | 08:26 |
| e0ne | also, it will simplify tests | 08:26 |
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| e0ne | because of oslo_config has config fixture for tests to override config options in very clean and easy way | 08:27 |
| eyalb | I don't like using global objects | 08:27 |
| e0ne | eyalb: nobody likes it | 08:27 |
| e0ne | but honestly, config is always global. we can't have 2 different configuration for 1 service | 08:28 |
| eyalb | I think its a bad practice to use it as a global variable but if everybody does it ... | 08:29 |
| eyalb | we can change the code | 08:29 |
| e0ne | I'm not saying that we need to change the code because of everybody does it | 08:30 |
| e0ne | it's really bad idea | 08:30 |
| e0ne | what I'm talking about that with a current approach, we've code a lot of code duplication, high coherence with config-related things and it's hard to support mutable configs | 08:32 |
| eyalb | we also have a problem that there is a dependency of vitrage tempest in vitrage which causes problems and hacks when running the tempest | 08:32 |
| e0ne | eyalb: what problem are you talking about? | 08:32 |
| eyalb | there are imports of vitrage in vitrage tempest | 08:33 |
| e0ne | :( | 08:33 |
| eyalb | a major refactoring is needed there | 08:34 |
| eyalb | but its doable :-) | 08:35 |
| e0ne | why do we import vitrage from tempest plugin? | 08:35 |
| ifat_afek | Because until few months ago it was one project and it was easy to do without noticing… | 08:35 |
| eyalb | we use a lot of constants defined in vitrage | 08:35 |
| eyalb | and also some graph methods from vitrage which is wrong of course | 08:36 |
| e0ne | ifat_afek, eyalb: thanks, got it | 08:36 |
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| eyalb | we probably need to create some vitrage-lib with the common constants | 08:36 |
| ifat_afek | e0ne: anyway, if you have a specific problem you need help with, let us know | 08:37 |
| ifat_afek | Because refactoring might take time | 08:37 |
| e0ne | ifat_afek: sure, I'll do | 08:37 |
| ifat_afek | Let’s move on. Anyone else wants to update? | 08:38 |
| e0ne | ifat_afek: I'm not a fan of refactoring, I just want to have upgrades working | 08:38 |
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| ifat_afek | Of course | 08:39 |
| ifat_afek | And refactoring is not a bad idea… it just takes time | 08:39 |
| e0ne | +1 | 08:39 |
| e0ne | I would like to finish db migrations in Rocky, so I'll try to implement everything with a current architecture | 08:40 |
| ifat_afek | If you are blocked let us know of course | 08:40 |
| e0ne | ok, will do | 08:41 |
| ifat_afek | We’ll be very happy to have db migration in Rocky :-) | 08:41 |
| Alon | We had an IRC session with e0ne @ Horizon channel. We talked about JS libraries, and the possible of using React to create a plugin | 08:41 |
| e0ne | :) | 08:41 |
| Alon | After I'll finish my commitments, I will start a POC to see if it can work | 08:42 |
| e0ne | Alon: thanks | 08:42 |
| Alon | Thanks e0ne for you support | 08:42 |
| e0ne | but we've got more issues with vitrage-dashboard with 'vendor' directory | 08:42 |
| e0ne | in a current state, it couldn't be packaged for debian | 08:43 |
| e0ne | AFAIR, ubuntu reuses deb spesc from debian, so propably it won't be packaged in ubuntu too | 08:43 |
| Alon | I don't know what does it mean, from the prespective of time and fix. | 08:43 |
| Alon | I want to create a new project, in order to make this one obsolete | 08:44 |
| Alon | All libraries there are too old: | 08:44 |
| e0ne | Alon: we need to get rid of minified js and css files from our code | 08:44 |
| e0ne | I strongly recommend to follow current horizon guidelines for static and xstatic things | 08:45 |
| e0ne | it will help all community and vendors to support vitrage plugin | 08:46 |
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| eyalb | ok we will check it | 08:47 |
| Alon | so, in that case we probably need to create xStatic of the dagreD3 library. Am I right ? | 08:47 |
| eyalb | is there a an xststic for minified js ? | 08:47 |
| e0ne | Alon: did you see my mail to openstack-dev? | 08:47 |
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| e0ne | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-June/131580.html | 08:47 |
| e0ne | Alon: for all libraries we use | 08:48 |
| e0ne | eyalb: we don't need it | 08:48 |
| e0ne | eyalb: we use django-compress to compress all static during deployment | 08:48 |
| eyalb | ok | 08:48 |
| Alon | e0ne: no. I will need to start with it in a week or two | 08:48 |
| e0ne | Alon: ok, ping me if you need some help | 08:49 |
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| eyalb | we need to make a list of all libraries we use in vendor and check weather there is a Xstatic for it | 08:49 |
| e0ne | +1 | 08:49 |
| eyalb | if not I guess we will need to create one | 08:49 |
| e0ne | eyalb: there is only one lib from vendor that has xtatic package | 08:50 |
| eyalb | do we need to pack to xstatic the css also ? | 08:50 |
| e0ne | you need to create xstatic only for rrd-party libs | 08:51 |
| e0ne | your own js/css/scss shouldn't be packed into xstatic | 08:51 |
| eyalb | so where do we put them ? | 08:51 |
| e0ne | eyalb: what do you mean? | 08:52 |
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| eyalb | Alon: we need to get rid of minified js and css files from our code | 08:52 |
| eyalb | thats what you wrote | 08:53 |
| Alon | only if css is in the vendor folder | 08:53 |
| e0ne | here is a guideline https://docs.openstack.org/horizon/latest/contributor/contributing.html#javascript-and-css-libraries-using-xstatic | 08:53 |
| e0ne | Alon, eyalb: please, don't put minifided css or js into the git | 08:53 |
| eyalb | you mean css of the third party | 08:53 |
| e0ne | we should use non-minified code as source of trust | 08:54 |
| e0ne | minified static == binaries | 08:54 |
| e0ne | we don't need to commit binaries when we've got sources | 08:55 |
| ifat_afek | e0ne, Alon, eyalb: sorry to interrupt… we have 4 more minutes and I need to update regarding StoryBoard migration :-( | 08:56 |
| e0ne | np. we can continue our discussion after the meeting in a project's channel | 08:56 |
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| ifat_afek | Sure, thanks | 08:57 |
| ifat_afek | #topic StoryBoard migration | 08:57 |
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| ifat_afek | annarez and I evaluated StoryBoard and approved Vitrage migration from Launchpad. | 08:57 |
| ifat_afek | The migration is scheduled for the coming Friday (June 22). On Sunday we will create the new boards and publish a how-to guide. Launchpad should be blocked for additions. | 08:57 |
| ifat_afek | All Launchpad bugs will be automatically created in StoryBoard, but unfortunately the blueprints won’t be. | 08:57 |
| e0ne | :( | 08:57 |
| ifat_afek | I think we should create in StoryBoard stories for the blueprints that we are currently working on, and leave the backlog in Launchpad. | 08:57 |
| ifat_afek | For now, you can have a look at the POC boards that we created for Vitrage in the test environment. | 08:58 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://storyboard-dev.openstack.org/#!/board/51 | 08:58 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://storyboard-dev.openstack.org/#!/board/50 | 08:58 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://storyboard-dev.openstack.org/#!/worklist/227 | 08:58 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://storyboard-dev.openstack.org/#!/project/468 | 08:58 |
| ifat_afek | e0ne: is the sad imoji because of the blueprints or because of the entire StoryBoard migration? | 08:59 |
| e0ne | yep | 08:59 |
| ifat_afek | Yep what? | 08:59 |
| ifat_afek | Got to end the meeting.. Bye and see you next week | 09:00 |
| e0ne | I'm disappointed a bit that we can't do blueprints migration in an automatic way | 09:00 |
| eyalb | bye | 09:00 |
| ifat_afek | Me too, but anyway most of our blueprints are very short and the details are in gerrit | 09:00 |
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| ifat_afek | in vitrage-specs | 09:00 |
| e0ne | ifat_afek: +1 | 09:01 |
| ifat_afek | Anyway, we are completely out of time… so we can discuss it in our channel later | 09:02 |
| ifat_afek | #endmeeting | 09:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 09:02 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 20 09:02:40 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:02 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2018/vitrage.2018-06-20-08.00.html | 09:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2018/vitrage.2018-06-20-08.00.txt | 09:02 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2018/vitrage.2018-06-20-08.00.log.html | 09:02 |
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| pbourke | #startmeeting kolla | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 20 16:00:40 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is pbourke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' | 16:00 |
| pbourke | #startmeeting kolla | 16:00 |
| openstack | pbourke: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. Use #endmeeting first. | 16:00 |
| pbourke | #topic rollcall | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rollcall (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:00 | |
| pbourke | o/ | 16:01 |
| bmace | \o/ | 16:01 |
| mgoddard | o/ | 16:01 |
| donghm | o/ | 16:01 |
| caoyuan | o/ | 16:01 |
| yankcrime | \o | 16:01 |
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| pbourke | #topic annoucements | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "annoucements (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:02 | |
| pbourke | hi all, thanks for attending :) | 16:03 |
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| pbourke | Jeffrey4l is away today so I'll be chairing | 16:03 |
| duonghq | o/ | 16:03 |
| pbourke | only annoucement he asked me to pass on is that the vote went through to move the meeting one hour earlier | 16:03 |
| pbourke | so the new time will be 15:00 UTC, starting from next week | 16:03 |
| pbourke | anything else from the community? | 16:04 |
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| pbourke | ok, no agenda for today so will move to discussion | 16:05 |
| pbourke | #topic open discussion | 16:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:05 | |
| pbourke | I have one area I noticed today I wanted to bring up | 16:05 |
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| pbourke | which is, does anyone have a feel for which if any images we can remove from kolla now kolla-k8s has been retired? | 16:05 |
| pbourke | I see our gates are moving beyond the 1h mark, so anything we can remove will be a plus here | 16:06 |
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| pbourke | this thing on? | 16:07 |
| bmace | speak up please ;) | 16:08 |
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| tone_zrt | hi all | 16:08 |
| pbourke | hey tone_zrt | 16:08 |
| caoyuan | tone_zrt welcome | 16:08 |
| tone_zrt | Hi pbourke | 16:08 |
| tone_zrt | caoyuan, thanks. :) | 16:09 |
| pbourke | tone_zrt: I see at least one of the failures in your reviews is down to some images timing out trying to fetch get-pip.py | 16:09 |
| pbourke | it doesn't really solve the underlying issue but I think some of these images can be removed as they're related to kolla-k8s which is no longer a thing | 16:09 |
| tone_zrt | yes. | 16:09 |
| tone_zrt | so what shall I do? | 16:10 |
| pbourke | anyway, that's just an fyi | 16:10 |
| pbourke | you don't need to do anything for now :) | 16:10 |
| pbourke | I'll +2 your review soon | 16:10 |
| mgoddard | pbourke: do you have some candidates in mind? | 16:10 |
| pbourke | mgoddard: yes | 16:10 |
| tone_zrt | pbourke: thanks! :) | 16:10 |
| pbourke | mgoddard: pretty much anything with helm or kube in the title | 16:10 |
| mgoddard | maybe an initial list on the ML would be the best place to start | 16:10 |
| pbourke | mgoddard: though obviously need to be careful | 16:11 |
| pbourke | mgoddard: ML seems the way to go | 16:11 |
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| pbourke | anyone have anything else? | 16:12 |
| pbourke | I'll leave it open for another few mins just in case | 16:12 |
| donghm | hi all | 16:12 |
| donghm | this bp https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla-ansible/+spec/ansible-specific-task-become seem like done, can someone checks and closes it | 16:13 |
| pbourke | donghm: will do | 16:13 |
| donghm | pbourke, thanks you | 16:14 |
| duonghq | o/ | 16:14 |
| duonghq | I draft a idea about neutron rolling upgrade (only some neutron service/agent support 2-phase db upgrade) | 16:15 |
| duonghq | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/569071/ | 16:15 |
| duonghq | can somebody help me review this | 16:15 |
| pbourke | duonghq: sounds good, will take a look :) | 16:15 |
| duonghq | thanks | 16:15 |
| mandre | hey, sorry I'm late | 16:16 |
| mandre | are you done duonghq? | 16:16 |
| pbourke | hey mandre | 16:16 |
| pbourke | just in time | 16:16 |
| duonghq | mandre, hi | 16:16 |
| duonghq | I'm working on this, but not sure if it's the best way | 16:16 |
| mandre | I've been thinking a little bit about the issue I raised last week regarding building python3 only containers based on fedora | 16:17 |
| duonghq | that's all from me | 16:17 |
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| mandre | i'm not super happy about working in a separate branch because that would essentially mean the two branches would diverge | 16:18 |
| mandre | and i don't want to merge some fedora specific code in master | 16:18 |
| pbourke | mandre: did you consider just working on a fork? | 16:19 |
| pbourke | or would that have similar divergence issues | 16:19 |
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| mandre | so I've started prototyping a small patch that rdo folks can apply on top of a kolla checkout that would re-use all of the centos logic, except it would build using fedora:28 with the repos they provide | 16:20 |
| mandre | it seems to work well so far | 16:20 |
| pbourke | yeah I would assume the rest can be done with template overrides | 16:20 |
| mandre | exactly | 16:20 |
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| mandre | keep it contained | 16:21 |
| mandre | that's all :) | 16:21 |
| pbourke | sounds good mandre, thanks for the update | 16:21 |
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| yankcrime | so speaking of draft ideas, i've got a backup mini-spec i'm drafting up for early review / feedback here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/573311/ | 16:22 |
| pbourke | nice! | 16:22 |
| yankcrime | thanks to those that have taken a look and left comments already | 16:22 |
| yankcrime | i was on holiday last week so i'm still somewhat in catch-up mode, but i'll get around to updating it in the next few days | 16:22 |
| pbourke | i'll add it to my list | 16:22 |
| pbourke | great to see some new functionality making it way into kolla | 16:22 |
| yankcrime | great, thanks pbourke | 16:22 |
| pbourke | *it's | 16:22 |
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| pbourke | anyone else? | 16:24 |
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| pbourke | ok lets call it here, thanks everyone! | 16:25 |
| pbourke | see you next week at the new time | 16:25 |
| pbourke | #endmeeting | 16:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 16:25 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 20 16:25:39 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:25 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2018/kolla.2018-06-20-16.00.html | 16:25 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2018/kolla.2018-06-20-16.00.txt | 16:25 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2018/kolla.2018-06-20-16.00.log.html | 16:25 |
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